This is great! I never even noticed the grayscale option before. Thank you! If I may make one suggestion: Adjust the audio level of your intro song. It's very loud compared to both other RUclips videos but more importantly your narration.
There are a lot of things I would change. I have found that a single pass with maximum power will treat the different parts of the grain of the wood the same. Go slower or multiple passes and you increase how much of the grain shows up. I go with maximum power and maximum LPI and then adjust the speed to the material and depth of cut desired. If there is still too much burn then I might do a second pass very lightly to cut away the darker surface but knowing there is a cost in that the grain of the wood will be stronger. I also increase the contrast from nearly white to black as that creates the most range for the laser to set its power. There are 256 possible power settings but not enough white-to-black range might leave only ten and then if your total power is low then the steps will also be less per setting, so total power at a faster speed going from white to black will leave a much sharper image. When choosing an image care is needed to see if the shading is from height or from lighting. As is the case with the bee there is much stronger lighting on one side than the other. The deeper your 3D cut of the bee the worse it will look. In such cases, dots or dither will look much better because your eye is judging depth by the lighting to the side, and if you cut deeply you will cut the dark side of the shape much deeper than the light side which if in strong lighting will put shaded things and dark things (like a pair of glasses) obviously as a hole and right next to it things light up like an ear as high as a cheek or different sides of a nose with a big drop-off. If the image is really good for relief carving then it will look strange as a dot or dither as the cues your eye expects of lighting will not be there
New to the laser world and this is exactly what i have been looking for. Wanting to do a few images with this technique! I love the black in the deeper parts of the images , like the lion you did! Super excited.
This was such an educational video for me you’ve really opened my eyes to more information and put me in the right direction!! Thank you!! Great video!
i do this with a diode laser, cant afford a co2 yet... when im done i brush them of with an acid etch brush with the bristles cut down at an angel as so i can have dif bristle strength as i brush it off
Could you do a tutorial or link to some extra info for us other peasant novices lol? Curious how you're incorporating the acid etching with your laser stuff. Wouldn't mind seeing some finished products as well. Cheers!
Thank you for the video!!! Would you be open to creating a video showing how to do the half tone and dither for the 3D effect shown near the end?? And any particular wood that would be better to use the half tone/dither?? Thanks again!!!
I've been looking for that Poseidon/King Neptune picture everywhere on the web but cannot find it. Another youtuber has the same picture. Do you know what this picture is called?
where can i download files to add to my library to have basic settings for different materials? would love to save time instead of buying each material and testing and testing until i find all the right settings.
That bee grayscale actually have a light source and shadows so it is not the best example to be used as a hight map. I'd like to see a neutral grayscale hight map done with multiple passes.
Hey Chris I talked with you recently about glass somewhere else (-: Nice to have found you here. Just curious, this video was done maybe 2 years ago based on the first reply post. Wanted to ask you what would you change about how you did this engraving or your recommendations during the video, or, is there anything technology wise that might have made a difference that is now available?... Talk to you soon...... Bob and Carla
Love it! Can anyone point me in the right direction in creating the image to begin with? I have 2d images I'd like to add depth to and engrave on leather.
Actually amazing ..... I will keep checking out your video's to get the big picture on how to use those laser engraving machines .... I didn't buy one yet ...HAHAHAHA.
I am a bit confused, you started out looking for an STL file it appears you just downloaded the JPG image rather than the STL file. If you had bought the STL file could Lightburn import it or would you have had to convert it to an image file? Do you just look for STL as a source of good grayscale?
I'm in the middle of trying to burn a 3d File that I bought as a pdf. The person told me he transferred it from an STL file, so I think he may have done what you did. Playing with the speed and power to get the depth I want - hopefully I don't over do the the burning. Thanks for your demonstration. Now I need to figure out how to clean the smoke off, just a light sanding doesn't achieve what I want in the end.
@@petervandoren5490 No Im talking about the Art Library at the top right @1:07 the graphics ,like animals, water bottles, cars etc. They are like png files or clipart stuff..? MAYBE Im just misunderstanding.. LOL
stl is a format recognized by the plotters that run a cnc router. the grayscale hes using has nothing to do with an stl it is simply the lighting effects, ocular occlusion ect from the 3d rendering software it was modeled and the image created for thumbnail purposes with. technically any image can be used but your 3d effect will not be perfect. the only reason hes able to do this is because the common use of the lighting technique ppl use for making these. so no you dont need special software per say however if you want an actual stl it will require knowledge some 3d modeling program. you could use photoshop or equivalent and carefully adjust and play around with levels ect until you get something workable.
@16:50 I WAS ABLE TO GET 3D DEPTH WITH JARVIS AT 50 SPEED AND 20/20 POWER... THE SMALLER THE PIECE, THE BETTER.. ANYTHING LESS THAN 12"X12" WILL SHOW DEPTH... THIS IS USING JUST A PNG IMAGE FILE, NO STL
There are STL viewers and apps for Mac.. But you don't want the actual STL, you need the grayscale IMAGE of the STL which would be in some sort of photo format.. .png, .jpg, .bmp
Hi everyone just after some advice please. I want to get a logo put on the front of a 50pcoin but want it to be sort of 3D dose anyone know someone who could do that thanks 😊
@@HouseOfLasers thanks for the reply really appreciate it. Do you know anyone that has the setup to do the job. It's for someone on RUclips who dose load of giveaways and helps loads of people out. Just would like to give something back to him cheers for any help
@@jamesjuleff3808 anyone that has a fiber laser, we have one but we aren't the best at the coins. If you ask on our Facebook forum you'll find someone to help ya
newbie here and very interested in 3D variable depth laser engraving - Can you ONLY do 3D grayscale (variable depth) with specific laser machines? I don't want to invest in one of these hobby lasers and find out I can't do this 3D grayscale/variable depth engraving.
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This is great! I never even noticed the grayscale option before. Thank you!
If I may make one suggestion: Adjust the audio level of your intro song. It's very loud compared to both other RUclips videos but more importantly your narration.
There are a lot of things I would change. I have found that a single pass with maximum power will treat the different parts of the grain of the wood the same. Go slower or multiple passes and you increase how much of the grain shows up. I go with maximum power and maximum LPI and then adjust the speed to the material and depth of cut desired. If there is still too much burn then I might do a second pass very lightly to cut away the darker surface but knowing there is a cost in that the grain of the wood will be stronger. I also increase the contrast from nearly white to black as that creates the most range for the laser to set its power. There are 256 possible power settings but not enough white-to-black range might leave only ten and then if your total power is low then the steps will also be less per setting, so total power at a faster speed going from white to black will leave a much sharper image.
When choosing an image care is needed to see if the shading is from height or from lighting. As is the case with the bee there is much stronger lighting on one side than the other. The deeper your 3D cut of the bee the worse it will look. In such cases, dots or dither will look much better because your eye is judging depth by the lighting to the side, and if you cut deeply you will cut the dark side of the shape much deeper than the light side which if in strong lighting will put shaded things and dark things (like a pair of glasses) obviously as a hole and right next to it things light up like an ear as high as a cheek or different sides of a nose with a big drop-off.
If the image is really good for relief carving then it will look strange as a dot or dither as the cues your eye expects of lighting will not be there
Good catch. Thank you for adding those super tips.
New to the laser world and this is exactly what i have been looking for. Wanting to do a few images with this technique! I love the black in the deeper parts of the images , like the lion you did! Super excited.
Thank you for sharing your tips and tricks. Newbie to laser engraving and can't wait to try this awesome idea!
Awesome workmanship...
Being new, I greatly appreciate your tutorial...
Wow that another level of laser engraving. Congrats I will a try.
This was such an educational video for me you’ve really opened my eyes to more information and put me in the right direction!! Thank you!! Great video!
Love these!!
Awesome work and tips. Thank you for sharing.
Great video and amazing work! Thanks
very good tip, and congratulations for sharing. Share is good for the heart and we feel you have a good one. thank you. (FilipeMaia Portugal)
Love your work... Just starting to learn this depth lasering and watching your video helped me figure some things out. Can't wait to try
Thank you again Chris for another great video. Can't wait to give it a try today!
Great Video
Sweet! Thank you for the great video. I came from the galvo fiber world and had no idea this could be achieved on a co2 machine.
So cool! love that 3D looks insane
i do this with a diode laser, cant afford a co2 yet... when im done i brush them of with an acid etch brush with the bristles cut down at an angel as so i can have dif bristle strength as i brush it off
Could you do a tutorial or link to some extra info for us other peasant novices lol? Curious how you're incorporating the acid etching with your laser stuff. Wouldn't mind seeing some finished products as well. Cheers!
Interesting? 🤔
Acids Usualy turns woods black....
Thanks for all your Information and Knowledge !!
Awesome. Cannot wait to try this. Thanks so much for taking the time.
Thank you for the video!!!
Would you be open to creating a video showing how to do the half tone and dither for the 3D effect shown near the end?? And any particular wood that would be better to use the half tone/dither??
Thanks again!!!
Love this method, makes gathering resources incredibly easy.
I keep posting this link to the various FB laser groups. Thanks so much, soooo many questions on how to.
I found it from a link you post on fb, thanks
Thank you for video, please can you explain how did you do lion ? So nice ?
would it help it you did borax or baking soda wash on board before engraving?
Could you do this on leather?
I have a 10W diode and still a basic learner using MDF and mm can you give me a reasonable speed and power to get started with so i can progress from
Just curious what do you recommend for the type of wood to do this kind of work Mama thank you
I've been looking for that Poseidon/King Neptune picture everywhere on the web but cannot find it. Another youtuber has the same picture. Do you know what this picture is called?
did you do constant power
very good video
Wow keren. Baru tahu kalau laser bisa untuk grafir 3d
On anodized aluminum that would look pretty cool as well. Thank you.
Thank you. Learned a lot
Is this only possible with CO2?
Nice video thanks 😊👍
How long the machine takes to finish one?
Hi, I would rather enlarge first, then sharpen. This avoids enlarging the sharpening artifacts.
i love the poseidon image, it really looks 3d whit no need to be in fact!
Thanks for the tip! I haven't attempted this since first acquiring our machine. I will have to give it another go and show you what we do!
Is this also makeable with a diode laser?
yes but not as much detail and depth because of focus and power restriction
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How to export the design to laserGRBL?
@@sebasm-s5s idk I use light burn
Can you Grey scale on slate?
Isn't turning electronics on and off more intense than using PWM? 🤔
Thank you for your great video - may I ask which laser you have used?
for some reason my line interval is in mm but my rulers outside of when I double click are inches whats the deal
This is really great. What kind of Laser do you use? CO2 or Diode-Laser? I ask, cause im going to buy one, but i am not sure which one....
Hi I would like to know if can it work on Creality falcon laser 5w/10W engraving and cutting machine?
I am so glad I found you, thank you thank you
Wow Yes 🙌 this helps thanks dude 😮
is this for co2 laser? the diode does not work or is it? it's my doubt ...
Great work! Thanks for sharing!!
do you adjust focus between passes
where can i download files to add to my library to have basic settings for different materials? would love to save time instead of buying each material and testing and testing until i find all the right settings.
If I wanted to design my own coins, could I use a laser engraver to engrave the negative images onto steel dies?
Amazing
That bee grayscale actually have a light source and shadows so it is not the best example to be used as a hight map. I'd like to see a neutral grayscale hight map done with multiple passes.
could you do the dither version say with the fiber laser on a yeti or something? Would that work?
Grayscale works on fiber and the new lighting will have 3d slicing for 3d mapped images
Hey Chris I talked with you recently about glass somewhere else (-: Nice to have found you here. Just curious, this video was done maybe 2 years ago based on the first reply post. Wanted to ask you what would you change about how you did this engraving or your recommendations during the video, or, is there anything technology wise that might have made a difference that is now available?... Talk to you soon...... Bob and Carla
can blue doide lasers do this too or do you need a co2 laser ?
Awesome instruction. How can I convert one of my own vectors into a Sylvan type file?
Is that CO2 laser or ordinary Blue laser engraver ?
very cool, thank you
Love it! Can anyone point me in the right direction in creating the image to begin with? I have 2d images I'd like to add depth to and engrave on leather.
Great video 👍🏽
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Quick question?
Can a diode laser cut a 3d stl file?
What's up with the 56k modem connection sound at 9:45?
would this process work for laser engraving metal?
Actually amazing ..... I will keep checking out your video's to get the big picture on how to use those laser engraving machines .... I didn't buy one yet ...HAHAHAHA.
Are you starting with a 3D STL model?
No, just a grayscale image of an STL
What settings are you using?
I am a bit confused, you started out looking for an STL file it appears you just downloaded the JPG image rather than the STL file. If you had bought the STL file could Lightburn import it or would you have had to convert it to an image file? Do you just look for STL as a source of good grayscale?
Yes. STL is a good source for grayscale images.
Hey, very nice work! Can you do this only with Lightburn? Or can you do it using RD Works, or in my case using AutoLaser with a Top Wisom controller?
Amazing. I would love to learn how to do it.
Try a makerspace in your area maybe! University or college near you.
Awesome!
which software do you use?
Lightburn is the best option.
Hi, what are the controllers that support 3d engravings?
What is your laser model?
Thunder Nova 51
Will it laser an etch a sketch?
What is mW of the laser are you use in this video?
Thank you for the nod to the gals.
Thank you very much!!!!
May I ask what engraver are you using as far as brand/model?
After many years of looking for the best I can find for the price... THUNDEr
The 3D is intriguing but what program is this? thanks.
It’s LightBurn
@@obamatypebeat Thanks!
I'm in the middle of trying to burn a 3d File that I bought as a pdf. The person told me he transferred it from an STL file, so I think he may have done what you did. Playing with the speed and power to get the depth I want - hopefully I don't over do the the burning. Thanks for your demonstration. Now I need to figure out how to clean the smoke off, just a light sanding doesn't achieve what I want in the end.
You can run a dither or halftone in negative as a quick light clean passs
Can I ask whered did you get your art library and IF you could share?
Look on EBay
www.ebay.com/itm/262856381245
@@petervandoren5490 No Im talking about the Art Library at the top right @1:07 the graphics ,like animals, water bottles, cars etc. They are like png files or clipart stuff..? MAYBE Im just misunderstanding.. LOL
Great video and thanks for posting it. Is it possible to turn a regular photo into a STL or do you need special software to do that?
stl is a format recognized by the plotters that run a cnc router. the grayscale hes using has nothing to do with an stl it is simply the lighting effects, ocular occlusion ect from the 3d rendering software it was modeled and the image created for thumbnail purposes with. technically any image can be used but your 3d effect will not be perfect. the only reason hes able to do this is because the common use of the lighting technique ppl use for making these. so no you dont need special software per say however if you want an actual stl it will require knowledge some 3d modeling program. you could use photoshop or equivalent and carefully adjust and play around with levels ect until you get something workable.
@16:50 I WAS ABLE TO GET 3D DEPTH WITH JARVIS AT 50 SPEED AND 20/20 POWER... THE SMALLER THE PIECE, THE BETTER.. ANYTHING LESS THAN 12"X12" WILL SHOW DEPTH... THIS IS USING JUST A PNG IMAGE FILE, NO STL
Thank you. How can you get same results from prepping an image high def psd file
hand adjusting the grayscale imagery is the only way i know of but it is doable
Great video, really appreciate the detailed explanation. I do have a ? Have you ever cut green floral foam with your laser?
thats a good idea and i am about to go try to do it.
Awesome jobs subbed
Did you use borax or something to make it look darker for the dithering approach? Awesome video, thank you.
Amazing!!! Can you show how to do these on Inkscape?
thanks mate
Is an SPL files a windows based file ? , would this work on a Mac or would you need a different file format
There are STL viewers and apps for Mac.. But you don't want the actual STL, you need the grayscale IMAGE of the STL which would be in some sort of photo format.. .png, .jpg, .bmp
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Not sure you could get that lead in music any louder... Appreciate if you try though
Hi everyone just after some advice please. I want to get a logo put on the front of a 50pcoin but want it to be sort of 3D dose anyone know someone who could do that thanks 😊
You'll need a fiber laser if you want any depth out of metal .
@@HouseOfLasers thanks for the reply really appreciate it. Do you know anyone that has the setup to do the job. It's for someone on RUclips who dose load of giveaways and helps loads of people out. Just would like to give something back to him cheers for any help
@@jamesjuleff3808 anyone that has a fiber laser, we have one but we aren't the best at the coins. If you ask on our Facebook forum you'll find someone to help ya
@@HouseOfLasers thank you 😊
newbie here and very interested in 3D variable depth laser engraving - Can you ONLY do 3D grayscale (variable depth) with specific laser machines? I don't want to invest in one of these hobby lasers and find out I can't do this 3D grayscale/variable depth engraving.
I know the ruida controllers can. Not sure about the gcode machines. But if they’re compatible with LightBurn you should be good.
What's the programe on your screen?
lightburn
I saw something like a lichtenberg effect while you were burning that wood.
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