@@Cyber_Gasquite a few years ago the actual name was gt 210 and gt310 nvidia have only recently dropped the gt from the 210 and made the geforce 300 drivers an all in one package. which is why the drivers randomgaminginhd tried to install wouldnt work correctly because the card used to be called gt 310 just like the 210. now the 210 is just called g210
When you said “Stay with me” I imagined you as a PC paramedic, leaning over the graphics card and blowing into the fan and screaming ‘Breathe! Don’t give up on me!’
3:00 You describing the graphics as PS1 Silent Hill "except nothing scary should pop out, but you never know," and then having a horse pop out and scare you literally ten seconds later is gold timing. btw, enjoying these videos of you pushing weak, outdated GPUs to the limit
For more performance, you should consider using Sodium and Iris on the Fabric Mod Loader. It should yield more performance than optifine which is rather archaic
Seing Minecraft in a 4:3 aspect ratio was a real throwback to my old, square IBM thinkpad I used to play on. Complete of course with the little red dot you could use to control the mouse
I find trackpads insufferable, so having it on my ThinkPad is amazing for this kind of stuff. "But what about left click and right click?" Set them to keys I and O respectively, they're not used during normal gameplay. No mouse needed!
@@Darsh0606 I don't often play games that need this, but my best bet would be the arrow keys. For something like Minecraft, I just use the number keys.
Everyone knows Optifine, so it’s performance is easy to benchmark, If I did it I’d go into that side if I wanted to fps chase and squeeze ever frame out
Sodium and Iris could ironically be problematic because they use newer/more advanced OpenGL features… that’s only an assumption, though, I don’t have a 310 to test
@@itsTyrion technically geforce 310 could run on sodium as long have support for opengl 3.3 which are absolute minimum to run but is not supported officially by sodium devs
@@sebastianx708pl The GF 310 does support OpenGL 3.3, in fact OpenGL 3.3 is supported going all the way back to the GeForce 8000 series. (And then wasn't updated to 4.3 till the 500 series.)
TNT explosions in Minecraft are more CPU intensive, as the game needs to calculate what blocks will be removed from the area of destruction, and in Minecraft this takes quite a bit of calculations. Graphically, it only spawns a bunch of 2D particles, which won't make that much of a struggle even for a GPU this bad. True torture test for 310 in Minecraft should be render distance test, especially with several fancy mods that allow for extending visible distance to several thousand blocks. And that is with the graphics set to Fabulous, of course
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 extreme rendering distances put some load to a CPU, too, but drawing all the stuff can jam even some modern cards, live alone a piece of e-waste like the 310
That's why we need some LOD solution, like Distant Horizons in Vanilla Minecraft without mods. You wouldn't have to live with less than 6-8 chunks of render distance if Minecraft used LODs.
Man that £5 GPU reminds me of my old GTX 560 Ti, It struggled to stay around 25 FPS! ..And it would shut down after it hit a super hot temperature. After I replaced the thermal pads it actually stopped and started to stay above 30-50 FPS and not shutdown. That taught me how important replacing old thermal pads were.
Great another video! Hey if you can, start test benching cards on a game called Grayzone Warfare. It is getting quite popular and it seems to be quite demanding but can be fun to try run smoothly on lower end gear too. The team is working on optimising the game too.
Some shaderpacks I like, including potato friendly ones: - Photon: looks good, runs pretty well - Complementary: looks great. many settings and presets. can probably run on a GT 730 in potato preset, but stress a 1070 on high/ultra - MakeUp UltraFast: looks pretty decent, runs really well
I'd love to see you strap a huge cooling plate and fans on this to see how far it can go. Maybe even a waterblock and custom loop? Or modify a 120mm AIO to do the cooling?
To be fair, there changed a lot between back when this shaderpack was new and today, both in terms of Minecraft under the hood performance and optifine itself. Would've been interesting to see you trying to compare it to the other shadermod Iris. But understandable that you wont dive into minecraft modding for a short video :)
I dunno how much intense Sidurs extreme shaders are compared to SEUS'' another fun fact I forget the exact version but they did change the opengl backend at one point, and the old version of MC would infact run on a netbook cause of the old opengl
Pro tip: Sodium + iris is a better alternative to optifine. Also if you want to test different game versions with shaders the AT launcher makes that really easy, and doesn't make you install Java
In the event of a Terminator-esque machine takeover of the world, you'll definitely be high up on their list of targets for torturing these poor GPUs :'(
I really don't know why I am watching this video. I never played Minecraft in my life and never will. Well played RandomGaminginHD, well played. See me ride out of the sunset On your color TV screen Out for all that I can get If you know what I mean Women to the left of me And women to the right Ain't got no gun Ain't got no knife Don't you start no fight 'Cause I'm T.N.T., I'm dynamite T.N.T., and I'll win the fight T.N.T., I'm a power load T.N.T., watch me explode!
I remember playing minecraft back in 2012 or so with an amd radeon 3650 and shadows + fancy water shaders. Somehow it ran decently well. The 310 is probably way worse than a 3600 though. I'm surprised you didn't go with something like a 710.
What integrated graphics would you say this is comparable to? I'm fairly sure the iGPU in my i5-7200U and 7260U systems would smoke this! On the other end, what older cards would it be comparable to? I have a GT 710 in a Core 2 Duo system with Windows XP and plan to do some testing to see how it compares to the GeForce 6800 GT I had back in the day just to see how times change!
@@bighmm6301 Crazy. There's what? 5 years between the 2 and Intel isn't exactly known for good iGPUs. I've got a Kaby Lake NUC and I've tested a few games on it, the most impressive thing I've run on it is Far Cry 3 at 1080P and low settings and it runs every bit as well as it did on XBox 360.
@@bighmm6301 Good to know. I was playing some games a while back on my Kaby Lake laptop that I used to run on my system with a GeForce 6800GT and was noticing that, despite the higher resolution, my laptop was still running those games better. I get that a lot of time has passed but somehow it still blows my mind how much performance we're getting out of integrated graphics.
Id honestly recommend using sodium and iris shaders for these kinds of things, optifine can be kind of bloated at times and sodium makes better use of the GPU (although that may not have done much in this scenario lmao)
If you keep your fps uncap in Minecraft it reduces performance by a lot ( Minecraft Logic ) and maybe you could try with sodium it's a better alternative to optifine other than that nothing to complain awesome video
That graphics card looked like was about to give up and die with those artifacts on the screen. I'm expecting the other way around setup where a potato cpu like pentium 4 or pentium D is paired with something like rtx 4070 in another video.
That card should be a joke gift to someone dreaming of a badass gaming GPU. Preferably to a distant relative or something that wouldn't be too comfortable with offending you with their dismay, while keeping a straight face through the whole gifting process. Priceless. But yeah, the pain would be too real so better have a proper gift prepared as well 🙃
I mean, the GPU is generally the last thing you put in a PC, so you could put a GeForce 310 in first, as a joke, show that family member an amazing 1FPS at 1080p and later on explain that it was a joke and just put in the actual graphics card, which hopefully handles 1080p60 just fine.
If you were to do another minecraft video is there a chance you could test with sodium rather than optifine? Optifine is far more outdated and doesn't improve performance nearly as much as sodium does.
I wonder if it would have run any better on Linux. Minecraft Java Edition is known for being one game that runs significantly better on Linux than Windows, possibly because it's using the OpenJDK that comes with the OS rather than whatever embedded thing Microsoft puts in or possibly because Linux's OpenGL stack is better. In my limited experience it definitely runs smoother on both the computers I've tried dual-booting. But I haven't tried shaders.
I have learned that minecraft is the most unpredictable game, somehow my current 7900gre performs the exact same as the gtx1070 I had in 2020 and both are surclassed by the 5700xt I had about 1y ago.
if you try to use some different shaders, try to watchout for graphics effects, that are more inline with a DX10 feature set, than a DX11, the card supports dx11 but only on feature lvl 10_1
The real question is how old of a system can you get modern minecraft to be playable (30fps average) at 1080p? I'm guessing athalon 64 (maybe x2) + a nvidia geforce 6800 or similar. So 2004/2005 vintage. The FX series is probably way too shitty. Hopefully it will run fine on an older gl2.1 graphics card. Probably best to go with some very lightweight linux OS for that, with easy support for installing older graphics drivers. I'd suggest arch, but xubuntu or something would also probably work.
lol only at 1200fps is a 60-70% loss not much of anything :P I blew up an HD6870 running uncapped on Halo: Combat Evolved too long last year. It was hilarious dancing around the 30fps AI at 10x+ their rate, but my cheap stock cooler never touched the VRAM…
The card so rough they didn't even give it the GT name😭😭
Haha nope
Like the 210 idk why people call it gt 210
@@Cyber_Gasquite a few years ago the actual name was gt 210 and gt310 nvidia have only recently dropped the gt from the 210 and made the geforce 300 drivers an all in one package. which is why the drivers randomgaminginhd tried to install wouldnt work correctly because the card used to be called gt 310 just like the 210. now the 210 is just called g210
The gt 210 is a non official card, so the brands that kind of created it
Still now Iam having my MSI GT 210 1gb ddr3 card😅@@Cyber_Gas
When you said “Stay with me” I imagined you as a PC paramedic, leaning over the graphics card and blowing into the fan and screaming ‘Breathe! Don’t give up on me!’
😂
😂
Best comment 😂 you win the internet
3:00 You describing the graphics as PS1 Silent Hill "except nothing scary should pop out, but you never know," and then having a horse pop out and scare you literally ten seconds later is gold timing. btw, enjoying these videos of you pushing weak, outdated GPUs to the limit
For more performance, you should consider using Sodium and Iris on the Fabric Mod Loader. It should yield more performance than optifine which is rather archaic
I'd recommend noisium, indium, starlight, lithium as well if fabric is used.
But it probably won't be playable after all that.
@@jeddllau I use all of those besides starlight, as according to the github itself starlight isn't necessary for 1.20
Yeah, Optifine is kinda not relevant any more for anyone who seriously cares about squeezing performance out of minecraft.
Use c2me too!
@@tRaigeki is c2me compatible with noisium?
Seing Minecraft in a 4:3 aspect ratio was a real throwback to my old, square IBM thinkpad I used to play on. Complete of course with the little red dot you could use to control the mouse
I find trackpads insufferable, so having it on my ThinkPad is amazing for this kind of stuff.
"But what about left click and right click?"
Set them to keys I and O respectively, they're not used during normal gameplay.
No mouse needed!
@@pacomatic9833 scrolling inventory?
@@pacomatic9833 totally agree with you, pain in the ass. Sadly I'm not still on a thinkpad so I just always have to carry a mouse lol
@@Darsh0606 I don't often play games that need this, but my best bet would be the arrow keys.
For something like Minecraft, I just use the number keys.
You should use Iris for shaders as it is built on Sodium which is much faster than Optifine.
Pls try sodium and iris. It inproves stability and framerate even more and maybe use different shaders.
Everyone knows Optifine, so it’s performance is easy to benchmark, If I did it I’d go into that side if I wanted to fps chase and squeeze ever frame out
Sodium and Iris could ironically be problematic because they use newer/more advanced OpenGL features… that’s only an assumption, though, I don’t have a 310 to test
@@itsTyrion technically geforce 310 could run on sodium as long have support for opengl 3.3 which are absolute minimum to run but is not supported officially by sodium devs
@@sebastianx708pl The GF 310 does support OpenGL 3.3, in fact OpenGL 3.3 is supported going all the way back to the GeForce 8000 series. (And then wasn't updated to 4.3 till the 500 series.)
In the sodium documentation they recommend a card from 4xx
TNT explosions in Minecraft are more CPU intensive, as the game needs to calculate what blocks will be removed from the area of destruction, and in Minecraft this takes quite a bit of calculations. Graphically, it only spawns a bunch of 2D particles, which won't make that much of a struggle even for a GPU this bad.
True torture test for 310 in Minecraft should be render distance test, especially with several fancy mods that allow for extending visible distance to several thousand blocks. And that is with the graphics set to Fabulous, of course
Number 1 reason why you dont install extremely long rendering mods on potato server:
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 extreme rendering distances put some load to a CPU, too, but drawing all the stuff can jam even some modern cards, live alone a piece of e-waste like the 310
That's why we need some LOD solution, like Distant Horizons in Vanilla Minecraft without mods.
You wouldn't have to live with less than 6-8 chunks of render distance if Minecraft used LODs.
its so fun and interesting to see old gpus trying to run things like this 😂😂😄
7:00 this looks more like Doom than Minecraft now lol
Man that £5 GPU reminds me of my old GTX 560 Ti, It struggled to stay around 25 FPS! ..And it would shut down after it hit a super hot temperature.
After I replaced the thermal pads it actually stopped and started to stay above 30-50 FPS and not shutdown. That taught me how important replacing old thermal pads were.
I had a RTX Quadro m2000, it's very similar in terms of performance to your GTX 560 ti
@nevio-hack I played make up ultra fast with 80 plus fps in 1.20 with that card
@@nevio-hack I believe you. Quadro m2000 was pretty strange when it came to FPS. It did have better DX12 support tho compare to GTX 560 Ti
gta 5 did not kill this card
minecraft hold my beer and about to destroy this graphics card with mosquitos
it is kinda nostalgic, it reminds me the original crysis days, with my celeron 420 and a 8600 gt, playing at 480p and recording with fraps at 8fps
Hell yeah the dream settup
Cyberpunk 2077 stand aside, Minecraft is the real new Crysis.
always has been
Would have loved to see Sodium being used instead of Optifine and maybe less intensive/performance friendly shaders. Seus is more intensive afaik.
Seus is basically the most intensive shader there is, only comparable to fully path traced shaders.
06:51 RandomGamingInOneThirdOfHD 🤣🤣
Great another video! Hey if you can, start test benching cards on a game called Grayzone Warfare. It is getting quite popular and it seems to be quite demanding but can be fun to try run smoothly on lower end gear too. The team is working on optimising the game too.
"Shader pack doesn't impact performance too much"
Loses 900fps
Some shaderpacks I like, including potato friendly ones:
- Photon: looks good, runs pretty well
- Complementary: looks great. many settings and presets. can probably run on a GT 730 in potato preset, but stress a 1070 on high/ultra
- MakeUp UltraFast: looks pretty decent, runs really well
"Nothing scary should pop up at me, but you never know"
*Sneaky horse* walks by! 😱😱
I'm surprised the game didn't straight up crashed when you switched on the shaders, the card still somehow managed to run the game, what a trooper😅👌
I'd love to see you strap a huge cooling plate and fans on this to see how far it can go. Maybe even a waterblock and custom loop? Or modify a 120mm AIO to do the cooling?
This card is absolute beast in slicing bread.
The fact it rendered anything is crazy
To be fair, there changed a lot between back when this shaderpack was new and today, both in terms of Minecraft under the hood performance and optifine itself. Would've been interesting to see you trying to compare it to the other shadermod Iris. But understandable that you wont dive into minecraft modding for a short video :)
Yeah will do more in depth shader testing at some point. This card will run them all poorly though haha
Chocopic shaders are probably the best for lower end hardware and still look amazingly good 👍🏻
I liked them, but personally, Complementary Shaders takes the cake
I’d give that to Complementary on the low or potato preset, or MakeUp UltraFast
@@AcTive_AK Complementary and related shaders run like ass compared to chocapic13 or sildurs vibrant shaders.
Make up ultra fast is ironically really fast
@@bighmm6301
Are you using them on OptiFine?
More recent shaders tend to be optimized for Iris and Oculus.
I think the background blur on the settings screen was more demanding than the game itself lol
I dunno how much intense Sidurs extreme shaders are compared to SEUS'' another fun fact I forget the exact version but they did change the opengl backend at one point, and the old version of MC would infact run on a netbook cause of the old opengl
i found a i7 5820k for £12 on CEX, you should make a video on it
GeForce 310 - Ultra Settings
This would look awesome on a CRT television :D
Losing 900fps = doesn't really impact performance....
Next try laying the Minecraft TNT whilst using an actual TNT graphics card. 😂 Slap in a TNT 2 Ultra and feel the speed! 😉
Pro tip: Sodium + iris is a better alternative to optifine. Also if you want to test different game versions with shaders the AT launcher makes that really easy, and doesn't make you install Java
In the event of a Terminator-esque machine takeover of the world, you'll definitely be high up on their list of targets for torturing these poor GPUs :'(
I really don't know why I am watching this video. I never played Minecraft in my life and never will.
Well played RandomGaminginHD, well played.
See me ride out of the sunset
On your color TV screen
Out for all that I can get
If you know what I mean
Women to the left of me
And women to the right
Ain't got no gun
Ain't got no knife
Don't you start no fight
'Cause I'm T.N.T., I'm dynamite
T.N.T., and I'll win the fight
T.N.T., I'm a power load
T.N.T., watch me explode!
That 5 pound GPU took a pound beating.
WOW!!! Trying blow up animals in minecraft...can't wait to see whats next...lol..great video and great content
This card has 510 MB more VRAM than my first 3D acceleration card!
I remember playing minecraft back in 2012 or so with an amd radeon 3650 and shadows + fancy water shaders. Somehow it ran decently well.
The 310 is probably way worse than a 3600 though. I'm surprised you didn't go with something like a 710.
Could draw the frames faster by hand 😂
😂
Minecraft with shaders really do be lit
You should try a shaderpack called "makeup ultra fast" it is the most optimized one that I know
What integrated graphics would you say this is comparable to? I'm fairly sure the iGPU in my i5-7200U and 7260U systems would smoke this! On the other end, what older cards would it be comparable to? I have a GT 710 in a Core 2 Duo system with Windows XP and plan to do some testing to see how it compares to the GeForce 6800 GT I had back in the day just to see how times change!
A 310 is half as powerful as the lowest end Kaby Lake integrated graphics.
@@bighmm6301 Crazy. There's what? 5 years between the 2 and Intel isn't exactly known for good iGPUs. I've got a Kaby Lake NUC and I've tested a few games on it, the most impressive thing I've run on it is Far Cry 3 at 1080P and low settings and it runs every bit as well as it did on XBox 360.
@@406Steven An iris xe or Vega 7 is 5-10 times more powerful than that, about as good as Xbox one.
@@bighmm6301 Good to know. I was playing some games a while back on my Kaby Lake laptop that I used to run on my system with a GeForce 6800GT and was noticing that, despite the higher resolution, my laptop was still running those games better. I get that a lot of time has passed but somehow it still blows my mind how much performance we're getting out of integrated graphics.
Id honestly recommend using sodium and iris shaders for these kinds of things, optifine can be kind of bloated at times and sodium makes better use of the GPU (although that may not have done much in this scenario lmao)
0:30
3080 FPS
Nice!
Should have used Fabric with all the performance optimization mods & Non-Beefy shader...
SEUS shaders? A man of fine taste I see.
2:37 I used to run it like this on my HP prebuilt, which I think had an Athlon64 X2. It just looked like it was always overcast XD
If you keep your fps uncap in Minecraft it reduces performance by a lot ( Minecraft Logic ) and maybe you could try with sodium it's a better alternative to optifine other than that nothing to complain awesome video
hey great video. you could try rendering a flat world i also have an oem HP 310 1gb version of this card and it only has 3 DP ports.
That graphics card looked like was about to give up and die with those artifacts on the screen.
I'm expecting the other way around setup where a potato cpu like pentium 4 or pentium D is paired with something like rtx 4070 in another video.
You should use Sodium With Iris. You'll get way better performance
That it runs at all is impressive.
I will have to try Minecraft one of these days.
That card should be a joke gift to someone dreaming of a badass gaming GPU.
Preferably to a distant relative or something that wouldn't be too comfortable with offending you with their dismay, while keeping a straight face through the whole gifting process.
Priceless.
But yeah, the pain would be too real so better have a proper gift prepared as well 🙃
But you wouldn't be wrong. You said you'd give a "bad ass" card, not a "badass" one after all.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino better? 😜
I mean, the GPU is generally the last thing you put in a PC, so you could put a GeForce 310 in first, as a joke, show that family member an amazing 1FPS at 1080p and later on explain that it was a joke and just put in the actual graphics card, which hopefully handles 1080p60 just fine.
@@Sherolox sub 4k60fps = disappointment 😜
@@JackVogel2024
Haha, tell that to my friend who's been trying to power a 4K60 screen with his RTX 2060 lol
😁
I remember my old HP Mini netbook performing about the same 🥶
Hey look, RGHD is doing a powerpoint presentation :)
If you were to do another minecraft video is there a chance you could test with sodium rather than optifine? Optifine is far more outdated and doesn't improve performance nearly as much as sodium does.
The GPU technically give you 1fps per $ of performance
You can try the SEUS PTGI (thats a version with path-tracing), the 310 will certainly explode xD
Sodium + Iris on the fabric loader is the much better choice for low end GPUs and iGPUs too.
The seus renewed is my favourite shaders pack too
With the nebulae and low resolution, Mindcraft reminded me of Turok.😅
It would be interesting to see if you tried a 8x8 texture pack like bare bone or faithful 8x8. It might help with VRAM issues.
Looks similar to my experience as a kid trying to run shaders on my families core 2 duo system
Such a test makes far more sense with a performance modpack like FO, but I doubt it would help much.
You should do a Ryzen APU comparison of Minecraft with shaders
i don't think that's worth a video as even the apus running vega 8 still run it just fine with some tweaked settings
@@franzferdinand2240 But _how_ fine, that's the question
My go-to potato shaders are superdupervanilla shaders, they do look decent as well
9:45 That's not a stutter. That GPU just had a seizure.
Use Sodium and Iris to give the old Geforce a fighting chance Optifine is somewhat outdated
Could probably be better on linux (Java is just faster there) with sodium instead of optifine
I wonder if it would have run any better on Linux. Minecraft Java Edition is known for being one game that runs significantly better on Linux than Windows, possibly because it's using the OpenJDK that comes with the OS rather than whatever embedded thing Microsoft puts in or possibly because Linux's OpenGL stack is better. In my limited experience it definitely runs smoother on both the computers I've tried dual-booting. But I haven't tried shaders.
Hey, what microphone do you use? It's very clear.
Funny to think that gpu launched around when minecraft did
the TNT exploding is more cpu intensive I believe
edit: when you blew up the tnt, cpu usage jumped from 9-10% to 18% the first time at 480p
I wonder when integrated graphics became faster than a 2009 display adapter? haha
0:34 bro went from 1200 fps to 300 and says it doesn't affect FPS much. 🤣
I have learned that minecraft is the most unpredictable game, somehow my current 7900gre performs the exact same as the gtx1070 I had in 2020 and both are surclassed by the 5700xt I had about 1y ago.
only guy ill watch 1 fps gameplay for
The FOV tho 🤣
Absolutely blistering performance.
if you try to use some different shaders, try to watchout for graphics effects, that are more inline with a DX10 feature set, than a DX11, the card supports dx11 but only on feature lvl 10_1
finally! a graphics card that i dont envy having!
so basically this gpu is on average abt exactly as good as the ps3 slim gpu
The real question is how old of a system can you get modern minecraft to be playable (30fps average) at 1080p?
I'm guessing athalon 64 (maybe x2) + a nvidia geforce 6800 or similar. So 2004/2005 vintage. The FX series is probably way too shitty. Hopefully it will run fine on an older gl2.1 graphics card.
Probably best to go with some very lightweight linux OS for that, with easy support for installing older graphics drivers. I'd suggest arch, but xubuntu or something would also probably work.
I tried I3 8145u on 1.19, no chances here...☠️ CPU also important
Lets try minecraft with the old friend hd4850 and 9800gt this time
Hd3450 might be superior.
please try huananzhi b250m motherboard, this Chinese hybrid support 6/7/8/9 gen intel cpu, never seen anything like it before!
S..... h-haaa..... d-..... ers.....
Great gpu for older titles
I bet that card couldn't even play Doom 3 at ultra 1080p
Do a video putting the display adapter in the oven to try to cure the artifacting lol
honestly surprised at how good the card did without shaders
Hope you enjoy!
Minecraft is much, MUCH more CPU intensive than it is GPU intensive, so this doesn't really surprise me
@@RandomGaminginHD It was great, thanks again!
2:58 About the same settings and performance I get with the Xbox 360 I think.
that card is like a nokia 3310 lol
@RandomGaminginHD You should use a 7200 GS to play Minecraft.. I DARE YOU LMAO.
You should have used fabric and sodium, they are more optimized
Yeah it's a way better GPU and u can make it wasy at home :)
lol only at 1200fps is a 60-70% loss not much of anything :P
I blew up an HD6870 running uncapped on Halo: Combat Evolved too long last year. It was hilarious dancing around the 30fps AI at 10x+ their rate, but my cheap stock cooler never touched the VRAM…
Absolute mad lad