Exactly, I think it has to do with the more relaxed head angle on the YZ vs the steeper one on the RM. There just isn't enough weight on the front wheel to keep it tracking in ruts without wanting to climb out. My fix is to run the forks higher in the clamps, and run less sag. This puts more weight over the front and helps out pretty significantly.
I would think that it's due to the yz having an aluminum light weight frame which does not track as true and heavy while cornering ruts where the weight of the rm carries forward throughout..
Love my 06 rm250. Have had 6 other 2 strokes and I have never rode a smoother 2 stroke. It feels like a 4 stroke almost and can ride it on trails and climb rooty and rocky hills and go right to the track no problem. It's a beast I love it
That was a really good test and commentary and you are fast AF. I like yellow, I have a RM125, RM250 and RMZ450 all 2005 models. I have ridden many YZ125s and YZ250s and you are right, they don't turn.
You have a pretty impressive lineup, nice choices. I wouldn't go so far as to say they don't turn, but they don't turn in the same way. You really need to use the back end of the yz to make it turn effectively, and that means more outside lines that don't make you stop and go in deep ruts. I ended up putting the four stroke swingarm on my yz and it made a world of difference, much more weight over the front end and a lot more predictable turning. Why they don't do this from the factory is beyond me, it changes the bike into and much better handling machine and has absolutely not negative side effects as far as I'm concerned. I still haven't found a bike that turns better than my cr125 though, much more of a front end steering bike than either the Suzuki or Yamaha and will do whatever you want it to.
Wow great review .and your a great rider..I just got th 06 rm and a 16 yz250 .I am looking forward to comparing..I am a shorter guy and like the inside alot ..I have heard alotta good things about the rms carving prowess so looking forward to trying them both on the track real soon
If you're going to build a bike I'd highly recommend going with the YZ instead. Parts are WAY cheaper and there's a lot better aftermarket presence for these bikes. If you really want to build a RM then by all means go for it, but the YZ is going to be a lot cheaper and less of a headache.
What do you mean by in depth, or more importantly I guess would be what would you like to know about it? Are you thinking along the lines of reliability, overall discussion or how it rides, differences from the standard RM, or something else entirely?
@@485Josh yes that's what I was thinking about. Reliability, differences, your experience with the bike and other general discussion. On top of that it looks to be in great shape so some close up shots would be nice
I might be able to do that at some point, but to be honest with you I haven't been riding the bike all that much. Parts are getting insanely expensive and I recently did a full rebuild on it, so I'm kind of just riding it on occasion and trying to preserve it (since I seem to be an expert at breaking bikes haha). They're awesome bikes, but compared to yamahas the quality on some parts just isn't quite there, most notably on fasteners which is a pretty good indicator of overall quality for any device. Not to say it isn't a reliable or quality bike, but between the cost of parts and the fact that there are so many more aftermarket upgrades available for the YZs it just makes more sense to ride the Yamaha a lot more often than the RM. With the four stroke swingarm the handling of the YZ will rival that of the RM, and it's not a hard upgrade to do if you get the right year of swingarm.
I would steer you toward the honda, mainly because parts for the Suzuki are insanely expensive. If money isn't an issue the RM will definitely be the faster bike, but if you're on a budget the Honda is the way to go. I have an 04 cr125 as well and I think it handles better than the Suzuki, but that's a bit of a personal preference thing.
I know I’m late to the party but get the RM. Still has every part available. Parts are actually cheaper than other brands lol idk where ppl buy their parts
@@nissan_6828 i actually bought a street legal rm 08, sold it just to get another one also streetlegal supermoto, i just finished the rebuild on it and bough a rm 125 08 (non streetlegal) blow up for 1.5k€ and i will rebuild it and i am waiting for a rm 125 02 streetlegal to be shipped to me
That's a great question, but to be honest I wouldn't be able to give a good comparison now. After I made this video I had a pretty bad endurocross race that destroyed my rear wheel. I ended up putting the four stroke style swingarm on my YZ (highly recommended mod by the way), as well as an 18 inch rear wheel. Because of that I really wouldn't be able to give a fair comparison since the YZ is far from stock at this point and the 18 inch rear would really favor it offroad over the stock 19 on the RM.
I swear…I know it’s probably just me…but the new(er) MX bikes don’t look that bad…EXCEPT for these hideous front and rear fenders shapes! What in the heck kind of designer thinks these fenders look anything like “good” other than complete shit😂I know I know…it’s just me.
Other than that…great riding, and very good reviews of both bikes. I’d ride either, as anything can be tweaked to someone’s liking with aftermarket stuff and machining. 👌
Rm all day
Enjoyed the video mate, thanks for taking the time to go through and test the two bikes with an honest opinion.
I'm 5'4" and ride an RMX (because of the conventional fork) with RM seat and gas tank and it makes me feel like a hero in turns, I just love it.
Definitely agree with you on the yz preferring the outside lines, when I go inside lines on mine it's a struggle to keep the front wheel planted!
Exactly, I think it has to do with the more relaxed head angle on the YZ vs the steeper one on the RM. There just isn't enough weight on the front wheel to keep it tracking in ruts without wanting to climb out. My fix is to run the forks higher in the clamps, and run less sag. This puts more weight over the front and helps out pretty significantly.
Fair play will try and give that a go. Don't notice any downsides to running less sag?
You're going to get more kick out of the rear end and some more headshake, but that's it. It just a trade off, but something to be aware of.
I would think that it's due to the yz having an aluminum light weight frame which does not track as true and heavy while cornering ruts where the weight of the rm carries forward throughout..
Love my 06 rm250. Have had 6 other 2 strokes and I have never rode a smoother 2 stroke. It feels like a 4 stroke almost and can ride it on trails and climb rooty and rocky hills and go right to the track no problem. It's a beast I love it
That was a really good test and commentary and you are fast AF. I like yellow, I have a RM125, RM250 and RMZ450 all 2005 models. I have ridden many YZ125s and YZ250s and you are right, they don't turn.
You have a pretty impressive lineup, nice choices. I wouldn't go so far as to say they don't turn, but they don't turn in the same way. You really need to use the back end of the yz to make it turn effectively, and that means more outside lines that don't make you stop and go in deep ruts. I ended up putting the four stroke swingarm on my yz and it made a world of difference, much more weight over the front end and a lot more predictable turning. Why they don't do this from the factory is beyond me, it changes the bike into and much better handling machine and has absolutely not negative side effects as far as I'm concerned. I still haven't found a bike that turns better than my cr125 though, much more of a front end steering bike than either the Suzuki or Yamaha and will do whatever you want it to.
Such a good review
Wow great review .and your a great rider..I just got th 06 rm and a 16 yz250 .I am looking forward to comparing..I am a shorter guy and like the inside alot ..I have heard alotta good things about the rms carving prowess so looking forward to trying them both on the track real soon
My 99 rm250 eats 450's for appetizers. Facts!
that RM looks real clean
id take the rm 250
Awsome vid man, keep it up 👍🏻
Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it!
Suzuki definitely!
Yz
Nah
Rm ...turns better feels a lil more comfortable to me
Yellow bike all day
Nice video man ! Debating on building an rm
If you're going to build a bike I'd highly recommend going with the YZ instead. Parts are WAY cheaper and there's a lot better aftermarket presence for these bikes. If you really want to build a RM then by all means go for it, but the YZ is going to be a lot cheaper and less of a headache.
485Josh , something I didn’t consider . I’ll keep in mind tho, seems like a rare bike to find up here in Saskatchewan. Thanks
Very nice video. Would you ever consider doing an in depth segment on your RM250 RC edition?
What do you mean by in depth, or more importantly I guess would be what would you like to know about it? Are you thinking along the lines of reliability, overall discussion or how it rides, differences from the standard RM, or something else entirely?
@@485Josh yes that's what I was thinking about. Reliability, differences, your experience with the bike and other general discussion. On top of that it looks to be in great shape so some close up shots would be nice
I might be able to do that at some point, but to be honest with you I haven't been riding the bike all that much. Parts are getting insanely expensive and I recently did a full rebuild on it, so I'm kind of just riding it on occasion and trying to preserve it (since I seem to be an expert at breaking bikes haha). They're awesome bikes, but compared to yamahas the quality on some parts just isn't quite there, most notably on fasteners which is a pretty good indicator of overall quality for any device. Not to say it isn't a reliable or quality bike, but between the cost of parts and the fact that there are so many more aftermarket upgrades available for the YZs it just makes more sense to ride the Yamaha a lot more often than the RM. With the four stroke swingarm the handling of the YZ will rival that of the RM, and it's not a hard upgrade to do if you get the right year of swingarm.
I thought 2004 was the last big change on the RM250 motor?
It might have been, I can't remember exactly but I thought they messed with the power valve a bit for 05 and beyond.
2003 was the first year of the YZ clone engine. It was refined each year until 2007.
Nice video bro
Rm.. Joss
great vid bro yamaha takes the cake because it just looks better lol👍👍
The RM 250 all day long .
03 cr250r all day
RM
yz
i have to decide between 2002 honda Cr125 and Suzuki RM 125 2008
I would steer you toward the honda, mainly because parts for the Suzuki are insanely expensive. If money isn't an issue the RM will definitely be the faster bike, but if you're on a budget the Honda is the way to go. I have an 04 cr125 as well and I think it handles better than the Suzuki, but that's a bit of a personal preference thing.
I know I’m late to the party but get the RM. Still has every part available. Parts are actually cheaper than other brands lol idk where ppl buy their parts
@@nissan_6828 i actually bought a street legal rm 08, sold it just to get another one also streetlegal supermoto, i just finished the rebuild on it and bough a rm 125 08 (non streetlegal) blow up for 1.5k€ and i will rebuild it and i am waiting for a rm 125 02 streetlegal to be shipped to me
@@aminabidi7767 the 08 will be the best one. Showa forks and easy to get parts for. 02 might have some bits missing but enjoy man
Which for trails though?
That's a great question, but to be honest I wouldn't be able to give a good comparison now. After I made this video I had a pretty bad endurocross race that destroyed my rear wheel. I ended up putting the four stroke style swingarm on my YZ (highly recommended mod by the way), as well as an 18 inch rear wheel. Because of that I really wouldn't be able to give a fair comparison since the YZ is far from stock at this point and the 18 inch rear would really favor it offroad over the stock 19 on the RM.
I gotta 96 rm 250 super fast an reliable
03 kx250 all day
Rm
Reason?
I fell like it more balanced
I swear…I know it’s probably just me…but the new(er) MX bikes don’t look that bad…EXCEPT for these hideous front and rear fenders shapes! What in the heck kind of designer thinks these fenders look anything like “good” other than complete shit😂I know I know…it’s just me.
Other than that…great riding, and very good reviews of both bikes. I’d ride either, as anything can be tweaked to someone’s liking with aftermarket stuff and machining. 👌
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Rm eny day
Rm lah
RM
Yz
Nah
Rm
RM
RM
Rm
Nah