Agreed. I went for the Nomad ending. Felt really bad about Takemura. I hope he didn’t commit Seppuku, and instead joined up with a nomad clan Like I had advised earlier.
@@awesomechainsaw Nah he definitely killed himself, he's too stubborn or too loyal. He despise weakling such as Nomads he only wants to grow in strength
Yep, his character grows on you. In my game he died long before this part, but left his imprint. But his life story was the reason I started to despise Arasaka.
@@lamiakitsune I think the secret ending is the best. V storms with Johnny into the Arasaka tower and either Johnny takes over V's body, or V lives for 6 months and is truly a night city legend + destroying Arasaka from inside.
When I played this one and saw yorinobu wanted to end the family basically, I was startled and then realized that endings that leave hanako dead (I think the Panam ending mentions she dies in the tower) are way more satisfying.
Not really. Only seems like that because they seemingly rewrote most of the narrative as V was a streetkid. If they really leaned into the lifepath choice V would have more than earned themselves a career back in Arasaka or some such, after they make them a new body, if you just want a good career path back. The goal as Dex would put it after the Heist was no longer blaze of glory or quiet life, it was just simply don't fucking die. With the options they have laid out now for the finale it's, be reborn eventually and return to Corpo life, or wherever you want to go after. Become a Night City legend and go on another kamikaze run at a space casino, blaze of glory, and/or still die in 6 months. Or live with the Nomads for 6 months, then die. Or give Johnny your body and go into the net, which is sort of like dying though they leave it rather ambiguous.
@@EricLing64 but my V isnt a corpo, so getting offed by Arasaka in some sterile lab is a depressing ending for a street kid or a nomad. Corpo getting to be with Arasaka? Sure. But me? I prefer the blaze of glory path with Johnny.
@@AvianEdits Mind explaining why? Because I think it's a good idea. Your new best friend is trying to help any way he can. It could take place 15/20 years in the future and end with V waking up.
Goro Takemura, Jackie Welles, Johnny Silverhand. Something about the main side characters of this game just keeps gravitating me and pulling me back in. Regardless of the bugs, I do enjoy these characters very much.
And the bugs are disappearing, and the game is only getting better. CDPR are pulling a Hello Games, slowly but surely. I believe in them. This game touched me like no other game has with its story. Its gameplay is pretty fun and the world is incredible. And yeah, this ending in particular shows you Goro is a real G, even if he's playing for the wrong side. Too bad Jackie and Johnny had to die for V (in this ending) to see that...
Honestly, as Arasaka, a merc like V is a fking gift, should be getting that body ASAP. I dunno about everyone else, but my V has a significantly long list of achievements, especially in the kill or capture department. Even just going off the main quest, V beat Oda and Smasher despite not having ‘top corporate implants’ and other equipment. Now THAT is a true legend in the making. Give V some actual equipment and she/he will be babayaga.
honestly the whole thing started giving me Gordon Freeman vibes after a bit. going on ice for unspecified future developments and a shady deal? One of the Emperor's lackeys or someone else to wake you up to get put to use in some corpo plot... might be a nifty storyline.
It’s either they think V is not worth it like their CEO does (I think he is the only one that has ever gotten a new body and it only his son’s) or it’s purely technology issue like actual compatibility problem or they can’t breed artificial body like cloning with current technology But it’s Arasaka so who knows
i just noticed that before the ending he always called any Arasaka with sama to be respectful, like hanako sama. But in the ending he called hanako by her full name, hanako arasaka, multiple times. Maybe he’s not happy that hanako can’t help V.
I actually had this whole discussion with a friend of mine. Using ones full name is very formal, like a full title. Like introducing someone in the courts you would say their full name, title, and maybe honorifics. But its also kind of odd. Most would default to the last name because you say that first anyway (Aka calling Saburo, Arasaka-Sama) Since the last name is the clan name, that alone should have weight. So Takemura saying her full name sounds like he's reintroducing Hanako to V, which I suppose in a way he is because Hanako would have definitely changed after everything. She is not the same person Takemura had known and respected. Overall, not using honorifics implies either closeness, or rudeness. It all depends on the context. In this case, I believe you are right in that Takemura isn't satisfied with how Hanako treated V. He clearly shows displeasure at the fact V is kept in a cage and how they treated him/her. Also Takemura said he was being transferred. I don't know if its just me, but I think he asked to be transferred back to Japan, not was suddenly transferred. If if were me, I wouldn't continue to stay Saburo's bodyguard either.
@@shadowofdarkness22He probably started dislike her because she made him break his vow to V. He promised Arasaka had a way to save him and he couldn't keep his promise after V has done their part. Which goes against his code of honor.
Don't worry, with the Arasaka DLC technology, our engram will be restored to a fully-functional Arasaka Cyber-Synthetic lifeform to hook up with our chooms. *Final research still pending; expected timeframe of availability may vary. Please allow 50-75 years of development. Soul package is not available for plans below the Platinum Corporate Executive Insurance Plan(PCEIP).
Ive seen all the endings and this one hits me hard. Title ‘The Devil’ fits so greatly with the core of this endings meaning. And if youve done that tarot card quest throughout the game, now you get the real meaning of it lol
@Lovelace's Automaton Every endings name is presented by Misty’s tarot interpretation. I didn’t complete that quest on first run so it was pretty interesting to me
@Lovelace's Automaton the devil, faustian deal You get what you wish for, but it never ends with your satisfaction, mostly detrimental to your being, in physical or soul
I was so pissed to find out that Takemura could have been saved after the apartment collapsed. I didn’t even think of looking for another route other than the obvious exit due to the urgency of the situation. At least I know for my next playthrough.
I literally charge-jumped my way back up from the hole I fell down in and fought my way out of the building from there with Takemura alongside me the whole way. He might be too blinded by loyalty to see how tyrannical his master is, but I respect the hell out of that man.
I restarted my entire playthrough just for Takemura. Im taking the game pretty slow and doing a lot more than before as well so that I can be better prepared for everything. Takemura easily became my favorite character which surprised me.
Let Johnny take your body. Johnny in V's body could be a real handfull for Netwatch. He might be able to extract you from behind the blackwall. All the while Panam is trying to extract Johnny from V's body. But Johnny doesn't want to hurt Panam but She keeps messing with him. Meanwhile V is slowly becoming a demi-god behind the black wall and he has to deside wether to tear down the blackwall and escape or to help Netwatch restrain the AI.
Watching Johnny so let down is simply heartbreaking. He's not even mad. Even if it's just for the sake of a playthrough, I can't go through this ending.
The station feels like the Mikoshi itself... think about it. Arasaka has no reason to keep their word. They could have put v’s engram directly into the Mikoshi. The everyday health check ins are just a computer program stimulating v’s engram and run testing on it. What we see are simply visual stimulation, a simulation making v’s engram thinks himself/herself is still alive. All the “real” scenes has this weird color grading, while the “dreams” all have more realistic color. The final deciding scene is just another dream... the title “where is my mind” also is hinting this. Why ask where is my mind if v’s mind is in her brain all along? The personality check is also a lot like the one in blade runner that check whether V’s engram has turned into an AI and lost its humanity.
Or maybe they have that low orbit station for pacients not being able to escape from it. And there is where they take the engrams from living people and then store it in the actual mikoshi
Damn the dialogue is actually different when Hellman was talking to you. Was half expecting them to do the lazy thing and have them both say the same exact dialogue word for word. Takemura even reacts differently to your frustration than Hellman.
I don't know. I felt betrayed by Takemura, but I also think he's Naive. If he believe Arasaka will give me a new body, he's falling for their bullshit again. So the only other alternative is he's in on it and knows I'll be fucked. I couldn't watch the ending, my heart wrenched either way.
i dont think he betrayed u. he seems like a very pure character. he cared about his duty, and vengeance, and not much about other things. so u cant really blame him for betraying u since he might not have understood all the consequences.
@@vatyunga Nah the contract also doesn't consider you a person so you are technically not protected by the law meaning they don't really have to abide by the contract since once you become an engram you are technically dead. Its your typical legal trap. You hope they would hold to the agreement, but they can also fuck you over or modify your psyche.
@@vatyunga not to mention, when they put an engram into a new body, it is a copy of your personality digitised by Arasaka‘s technology, hence the Name SoulKiller. You won’t actually be you anymore, you are dead while a copy of you will live again. So what’s the point of doing this in the first place if you are already dead?
@@LoLKriztya According to this view, with the other endings, you die the moment you enter the cyberspace, where Alt separate you and Johnny into two engrams, then put you or him back into the body, because at that moment the "original" you is also dead, and only a copy engram remains to be downloaded back.
Slasher That’s because your ideologies don’t align with corpos. Takemura sides with Arasaka in a world with no clear rights or wrongs. Although corporates are known for their obvious corruption, there are still cases like Takemura and Hanako who upheld her agreement without betrayal. Rebels like Johnny on the other hand may be against corpo greed. But that still doesn’t change the fact that he’s a terrorist and is responsible for the deaths of thousands due to the nuke. Even people like V and Jackie aren’t angels. Their careers consist of stealing and killing for eddies. Whether your V is morally good or not depends on the types of gigs you choose. The game largely consists of V being at the bottom of society where the narrative is to be against corpos. If the majority game mainly took place within Arasaka as a personnel who works there, players would have a complete different perspective of what’s good and wrong in cyberpunk.
I don't think that you're really talking to your friends at that point. Their responses just felt too weird and out of character... I think it's either V imagining it or Arasaka setting up some kind of AI to make you think you're talking to them and get the feeling your friends abandoned you... That way V would be more open to the tests and to staying with Arasaka, since they have no friends to return to anymore
Im happy to see that im not the ''only one'' who cares about Takemura and helped him in that hotel. I had good relationship with him and rly enjoyed his convos with me. Never forget his messages about food. I felt that he is a real bro who cares about you when you care about him. Maybe i liked him so much because he had one thing that i care in life the most. Honesty.
Takemura is literally the only reason why I hesitated in choosing the non-Devil and suicide endings. Because of how he winds up in those endings during the credits.
That's because you played a longer time period with takemura. If CDPR didn't cut the content and let us play the 6 months montage (which summarizes how they start out in Night City) then we wouldve had a better connection to Jackie.
they shot themselves in the foot by doing that stupid "6 months later" montage, instead of letting us actually get to know Jackie better and build up our friendship.
That's what I thought, on the arasaka ending, johnny tells you the barrier between them was gone for some time. I was hoping for that in Johnny's ending
Well technically by the end they meld into sorta V or Sorta Johnny. Think about the shift we went from robbing Street thugs to breaking into Arksaka to slaughtering the Corps elites. V become more willing to do things differently and violently. Johnny became upstanding and caring. Sentimental even.
I definitely want to do that next time. I've built up my V to be quite a tank, so I just wanna waltz through Arasaka mowing down baddies until I smash Smasher and bring the tower down.
When I got this ending I felt so empty, the soundtrack only helped intensify it. I hate that this game is getting shit on right now but in reality it has such a good story.
@@ablaze3763 I mean yeah, could'a put more punk into this Cyberpunk game, but honestly I think it was pretty much almost the best you could do translating the pen and paper game into a video game
@@lamiakitsune So do I. Great, and natural deliveries. She's the VA for Asuna in the SAO anime dubs, and Sarada Uchiha in the Boruto dub as well. Honestly, she's in lots of great dub roles- but those two are more recent/recognizable. Loads of games, too. Her wiki resume is extensive.
Am i the only who doesn't find V's voice so amazing? I mean i like it but for the first time in my life i have to say that polish dub is my favourits this time
Engram is just a copy. The origional V dies as soon as its switched on. Plus between the fool tarrot card, Vs sudden realisation swear word, victor warning space may effect her cybernetics (visual distortions etc) and johnny saying shed made the wrong choice. Perhaps Takemura was kept in the dark about the ploy or his loyalty to his reborn CEO is more than to V.
"You are not the one who cheated death. Death the one who is cheated you." They used Soulkiller on V so she is already dead, the engram is a copy, a program without a soul. An idea taken directly from the book called Neuromancer by William Gibson, where are a famous hacker Dixie Flatline who is made into a brain card and used as an ai basically. Similarly to Alt Cunningham in cp2020, who uploaded her conciousness to the Net, becoming an ai in the process, real Alt died there too.
i saw a catch, Takemura mention current tech can not provide a new body for V, so the DLCs could be about V's new body (you know, where we can do another character customize and that become V's new body)
I was hugely disappointed when I realized that Takemura wasn't a potential LI, because the chemistry he had with my V was amazing, and, based on their teasing banter through the text messages, I was more than ready to surrender :) ..But then, they had to crush my hopes for finding any kind of descent romance in the game...I mean River? That's the only option for straight female Vs? CDPR could have taken some lessons from Bioware in the romance area, for sure....Could we have hope for him in a future DLC?
@@lamiakitsune I'm really disappointed with myself with letting him die in my first playthrough, I was really confused for the rest of it (regarding takemura) because they just never talked about him again so I didn't know if he was dead or not
Both this ending and Panam ending leave a future DLC available in which V can get a new body either by Arasaka giving him one or they go to Arasaka to steal the body.
Just realised something. Johnny ending is Blaze of Glory. Nomad ending is the quiet life. Arasaka ending is just losing everything, Imagine trusting Arasaka not to fuck with your head in Mikoshi.
damn it! I didnt know I could save Takemura! The Devil ending without him just left a sour taste in my mouth. Now that i've seen this, I might say that this may be one of the more positive ending.
i think hajime's quote has a lot of feeling and meaning behind it as well, i cant really place what it is but the way he says it and the timing in general feels like something that has way more weight and is more hidden than other things in the game
I did the Panam ending and my babe Judy came with (Female V). So as far as endings go i guess i got the best one,nobody was sad in the credits either. I accidentally let Goro die cause the quest doesn't give you the option from the get go to save him,but now that i learned that he kills himself if you go with Panam i'm glad i let him die fighting.
Disagree. That's an ending where you leave a city with all contacts u need in order to save yourself, plus you dont even go straight with any partner that u are still dying. They assume you still do, but the words of V saying that they're still dying are never spoken. The "secret" ending in space is the best. You are straight honest with everybody, and stay in order to find a cure and finish one last job that Johnny would've loved. (Since u need a good relationship with Johnny to trigger that ending.) I am sure that is the most canon ending, because I can totally see them make two major DLC's. One where we are in space, the other when we are back on Earth and then get to find a cure. Ingame broadcasts of people selling islands were all over too, so I can definitely see CDPR pull a "Blood & Wine" on us. A DLC where we all get the happy ending, true happy ending, we wanted and an island of our own. That would be the best choice, imo.
@@wellendoxairfix you die alone still “ a legend” having become more like Johnny, the Panam ending you die with a family tell me which one is better then
The strategy guide’s extras section makes it explicitly clear that V will “spend eternity ensnared as an engram inside Mikoshi” and Hanako would never release them.
This is definitely one of the "better" endings only because of goro and without goro it sucks, and I'm still alot happier I left with Panam and Judy definitely alot more important to me
The game is depressing. I got this ending when I first played it and was like “wow. This is how it all ends I guess” then again there are 7 endings. I ended getting two more. The suicide ending which was worse. The Panam ending was actually a good one.
For me its: Secret ending > Panam Ending > Rogue ending > Suicide ending > Johnny alive ending > Any scenario of Arasaka ending There are 2 "good endings" for me: Secret is you taking care of your shit, standing face to face to your problems and solving them. Its not being afraid of anything. Failure? You lose if you dont try! Death? You die even if you dont try! SO, why not do this? + V solves it on his own, not binding himself to anyone else AND if hes succesful he/she can join Panam or Judy (or Kerry/River if you romanced those guys) and live hapily; if he fails, he will be the only one to see himself in the bed for the last weeks and the closest will still remember him as a person full of life and hope; not the nopeless, pain wrecked human he will become after like 5 months. Panam ending is you trusting the closest and accepting defeat almost. Its escaping from your fight, hoping that others will save you, refusing to try to do it yourself. You also connect yourself with people around you more than in any other ending and your crash landing and death can be much more painful for them should you fail to save yourself. On the bright side, you will live AT LEAST 6 months with best people in the game (Dakota, Panam, Mitch, Carol, or Cassidy) and be happy at least for 5 months with them AND they could maybe help him. Another major issue is that Saul and Bob die because of you, for you when you could handle all of it yourself. (I think some unnamed Aldecaldos must have died as well off screen and not important => nobody mentions them.) The Rogue ending has a major set back or something bad with it: Rogue ending is essentially a secret ending minus the courage, willingness to do things your way and on your own, have your fate in your own lands and act. In this ending you just surrender control and let others do stuff for you. This ending also murders Rogue which is making this ending SO MUCH WORSE than the secret ending and possibly other people from Afterlife. Also, Johnny mentions to not take your close ones into this and he takes his best woman into this matter. Johnny then goes behind the black wall knowing that he murdered Rogue to buy you 6 months which must be terrible for him. There are 3 "bad endings" for me: Suicide ending while being the cleanest, easiest solution to everything. Its actually a solution to nothing. You refusing to fight, refusing to look for solutions, cowardly evading your problem and hurting everyone you like in the process, Judy most of all (wouldnt be surprised if she followed the Evelyn's and V's example). Suicide is simply something I would do only if there was nothing better for me. (For example if I was sentenced to death via torture with no way of escaping it, then i would maybe rather suicided than die eventually in a much more painful way - I would have suicided only if I was in my final stages, forced to be in bed and I had nobody working on a solution) + Mikoshi is still with Arasaka and V can only hope that Yorinobu is successful really. If Hanako wins or his plans are somehow prevented, the world is worse than in the beginning. Johnny ending is terrible because you make Johnny into a hypocrite (or even asshole if you go the Rogue path of promising to return the body and then not doing it) because he fought against parasitic corps sucking life out of people for their amusement, gain of power and immortality YET he does the same thing. All V's friends will hate him for it AND in case of Panam, she is a real existential threat because she was talking about hunting him down and we know Panam is never just talking. Johnny seems to have lost all will to live, rebel and stopped being Johnny. What lives in V's body is just a shadow of his former self that hates not only everyone around him BUT even himself now because of what he did to V (if Rogue died for him - what he did to Rogue) and all those sacrifices just so that he could life making him on the same level as Saburo who was willing to sacrifice people to become immortal which is for him even worse punishment than death imo because he completely ignored his ideals. Any Arasaka ending means Saburo Arasaka is reborn, the Arasaka death machine, machine of broken dreams and insane evil lives on AND now is even immortal as long as Saburo always creates a son (yes, not "has" but "creates" because sons will be for him just his future vessels, not his children and heirs), Arasaka is stronger than ever. If V chooses to go back to Earth its as if he chose to do nothing after the Heist, completely ignoring all his friends BUT this is even worse because he sold his soul already, helped the people that killed Jackie among many more, betrayed his friends, Johnny (if your V didnt despise him) and most of all, himself. If V chooses to join the "Secure your soul program", he willingly gives Arasaka all rights to him as their property becoming their thing, not a person AND Arasaka would probably clone him into all their guards and make him totally obedient to them making Arasaka nearly untouchable. V would obviously never see the body or his life he was promised. Those are my thoughts about the ending.
My computer teach once said, Hard Drives are nasty, you plug them into every device and they just spread viruses and corruption. Seeing V plug it’s self into everything’s just nasty and unsanitary 😂😂
survive or not eventually your mind and consciousness will be taken over by Johnny. What's fucked up is Johnny who mad as hell when V asked for Takemura and Hanako for help. Changing Arasaka is better than just killing Yorinobu.
@@shaevizla maybe, but then again V's Engram might end up being used in a weapon, what if Arasaka can alter his/her "soul" and put his combat expertise in something like a better version of Adam Smasher?
@@shaevizla LMAO You're a slave, that's why it's the so called Devil ending, you essentially made a deal with the devil. As a construct in their soul prison, they'll edit you until you're nothing more than an Arasaka lapdog. Hanako may even bring you back to be another dog next to Takemura. That's why the chip was only offered to the 1%, imagine how much power Arasaka would have if they can turn the entire elites of the world into Arasaka slaves. It's Subaru's ultimate win, he would have died without the chip, but thanks to you being a good guine pig he has unocked immortality and will use his own resurrection as advertisement for other elites. He essentially will rule the world in a couple of decades due to this.
I have been thinking about the different endings a lot. I feel like V choosing to merge with AI and Silverhand getting a redemption arc in form of a second life in V´s body is a suitable ending, at the same time tragic, too. There is one thing to support this, a radio report talks about AI predicting and preparing for something big, therefore one of the endings with Alt seems highly canon. It probably still makes more sense for Johnny Silverhand and Alt to be reunited on a personal level, but I feel like V would choose to save Johnny after figuring out he isn't actually the bad guy here, as it is initially suggested in their early hours. Then they bond, V gains a greater understanding of Night City, through Johnny. At the same time Johnny´s destructive nature towards himself and others improves, which is very much suggested if he inherits V´s body. Hard to explain, feels like a suitable and yet tragic solution to both character arcs, but on some level both actually survive, including V´s body. Much like the Arasaka Ending, it is also very much open ended. The Space Casino ending feels like it brings the most closure to V´s arc, just as V (probably) set out to do, V lived a short and legendary life, since it is pretty clear V does not survive that one and solely cares about doing something so legendary, it will forever make history. I doubt V survives the Panam ending, there is a vague suggestion he could be saved, but if even Alt has no way to prevent/cure the body from its lethal transformation, I doubt anything really can. There is a strong sense of Alt having almost god like powers once fully enabled in the tower, so it is likely no human would be able to surpass that. V and people he met along the way do actually get some happyness out of it, for a while. But no matter how you spin it, V only gets out "alive" as data, Johnny may survive as data or as a human, the Arasaka ending is the only one to actually completely kill Johnny, that´s another reason why I don't think it would be the most likely one to be canon and it is also not fitting for Johnny´s character arc to just die. That being said, it is a very interesting ending, the whole immortality plot and how the corp always wins does indeed fit how things usually seem to play out in this game and that is compelling. In conclusion, all endings have things going for them, so yeah, the depth of the story in Cyberpunk is pretty fantastic.
@@TheCybusterGundam Yes. You can jump back up through the hole you fell through to get back to Takemura. But this is a hidden choice, the game doesn't show it as an option. Something I really like
@@user-yi6xc5fd8y Tbh, Panam, Judy, River, Kerry, Johnny, Misty, Vik, Mama Wells, Mitch, Regina, Saul, Cassidy, Carol, Jeff and Eliz Peralez liked V more than Takemura imo. I think even Rogue was a better friend in the secret ending than Takemura and she was a pretty cold fixer. Takemura just wanted V alive but didnt care. When he was saved he started to care a little but in the end. Arasaka > his life > Anybody in his life > V. Hes just a brainwashed Arasaka lapdog. People just cannot accept it.
I'm not sure how the dlc will play out for Cyberpunk. So many endings without any of them being the main one. In the Witcher 3, it didn't matter if ciri went away or stayed. You were able to play the dlcs individually or after the main story. So it's most likely possible that CDPR will likely make the dlcs indivual.
I have a feeling, no matter what ending you pick, there is something in that space station that will save you. (All of them end with that kind of a hint). Throughout the game you hear things about the space station, the stationed rumoured to have the key to endless life.
@@VolksAlphaRogue with the setting as it is and Ghost in the Shell being one of the inspirations, it's kinda obvious that the server where the engram is stored is in the space station (thus eternal life...as a Ghost in the net). In Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex, the AI partners used by the main characters became self-aware and gained individuality. They were supposed to be wiped (as they are basically treated as malfunctioning AI), but the main character uploaded their data onto a satellite in space thus preserving them, "keeping them alive". They could then download themselves into new bodies (they were AI for SMART tanks so new tank bodies to be precise). The endings in Cyberpunk 2077 all point to the exact way V can survive. That is by transferring the engram onto another body with 100% compatibility. The story involving Johnny also emulates the same concept in GITS where the question lies in "souls being digitized", and the question of whether or not it is just a copy with the same memories, and will digitizing the soul be the key to near-immortality by transferring the "Ghost" onto another body. If they actually stay loyal to their inspirations, I would assume V will remain as the individual "V" even though he/she has become an engram/Ghost in the network, and through that will be able to return by occupying a new body once the technology appears. This is similar to how the Major in GITS appears to mysteriously help her comrades despite her disappearance or "death" by occupying random cyber bodies with her Ghost. This is what makes her question her humanity. Is the body just a container for the soul? Or is she just a program that occupies a machine body despite thinking she is "she"? I would definitely like to see this explored in a DLC.
I think all the endings actually hint at the DLCs. Going with Panam to a new land to find the cure would be my best bet. Bet they also might make it so the DLCs are before the end of the main game. Add more love interest and friends that can help you in the end mission and actually another way to be better friends with Johnny to get the "Don't fear the reaper" ending. Both in my head seam as good choices for a possible DLC. Or even play as Johnny in a new place in Vs body. That kinda seems off but also a goos option. They could also go the "Superior Spiderman" rout. Have Johnny take control of Vs body and then all of a sudden Vs mind comes back and Johnny's gives the body back (or doesn't, depending on how the story goes). There are actually a LOT of ways to still make a great story driven DLC for this game
It feels like such a unsettling ending for me, you give up your soul to the dudes who killed your best friend and god knows how long its gonna be until your in a new body, might be years? Decades? Who knows your friends and love interest might not even reconize you or so much time has past they are just dead... for me picked to live out the rest of my days until i died, i wanna imagine my v was suronded by his friends when he went out and died as a legend in their eyes
i mean lets put it like this, they put you in a dormant state while you are an engram then it would just feel like dreamless sleeping and you wake up feeling that you were put in a body instantly
@High Roller Quinn On my nomad play through I was as mean to Goro as I could be and never helped him much. Ended up with him saying rot in hell to me as well. Although I did save him... guess he still didn't like me... f em damn corp scum :)
@@azeplayt4546 yeah no thats not it at all he tells you to rot in hell because you didnt help him save hanako and he is gonna kill him self after leaving that message so he really hates you
I feel like so many people forget about Takemura. I think he is my favorite character to work with in the game; even up there with Johnny. In a future expansion may I go to Japan with him and enjoy some proper cuisine like he said we would? It needs to happen, please!!
Also Victor said cybernetics would play up on station. Thats why the wierd stuff was happening. Not because of failed operation. Shes been tricked. No wonder she swore on her last breath.
So, V seems to be getting better, her vision isn't blurry and colored anymore, she seems to be more energetic, lively, independent and... Angry... but she's dying all of a sudden, so Arasaka's plan to "help" is create an engram of the best merc Night City (and possibly the world) has ever seen... I'm probably reading too much into this.
More like never read at all, didn't play the game. For you to came up with those load of craps. Never mind the fact that Alt also giving the same statement.
I'm excited to see what the future holds for Cyberpunk, especially the next game. Unlike the Witcher, Cyberpunk is essentially the wild frontier, where no one knows what we'll get next, and since V's story is done, means that the next game will allow for us to play someone else without being bound to a specific storyline.
I'm really hoping CDPR develops something to Cyberpunk past the endings. I know there are the endings that end in finality, however there are the different endings that don't end in finality, I feel they could continue the story. Despite the problems this game has had, I truly enjoyed playing this through. The characters, the voice acting, the music, the ambiance CDPR setup with these different scenarios, especially these pretty different endings.
*~Really wants to flirt with Takemura but doesn't buy Arasaka's bullshit~* Can't we have a frienemies romance, like one of those "foreign spies accidentally end up sort of liking each even though they are this close to ripping the other's neck at work a gazillion times" plots?
I don't dislike this ending at all. The most sad thing is that when V returns in a new body (if he finally does) all the friends and loved people will be old or dead. Also, if you hate johnny this ending is pure antijohnny, arasaka shred him :)
i don't think his friends can be so old rogue must be 70 years old and look 30. most of the people who make this ending are because they like takemura. this is a bad ending, arasaka is an evil corporation they hire assassins and mercenaries as in the case they kidnapped and killed Alt Cunninghamor what they did to jhonny torturing and killing him, they do whatever they want ignoring the laws. saboru is a cold person killed his own son to keep his body and they’re almost taking over the world at this end, you can see people making protests against arasaka on tv during that end
@@uiquehonra2480 Johnny killed Alt, Alt even says that herself when you meet her. You're supposed to cool someone down before you take them out of the net remember the side quest with the Tiger Claws where the net runner jumps into the net to escape them so they ended up surrounding her apartment complex until she leaves? That's because if you take them out without them being cool they will get wiped but Johnny being a idiot went up and took her out leaving her body a lifeless husk. Arasaka just wanted her to program the soul killer/soul engram.
@@uiquehonra2480 Don't sound any different from any government or real life mega corporation. Saburo's son killed him first so his son's murder is justified. I frankly hate Johnny Silverhand. He is NOT redeemable at all no matter how social, "cool" and "empathic" he is to V. He killed 14,000 people in 1 day and is a terrorist. If he hated Arasaka so much he could just have tried to assassinate him instead of killing thousands of innocent civilians. It's a dog eat dog world saying Arasaka is a cold man isn't an argument. V is cold and doesn't loose any sleep over all the people he/she killed. You've gotta remember...V is also a killer and a gun for hire.
@@MrDude826 regardless of whether yorinobu killed his father, it doesn’t give him the right to take justice into his own hands, there are laws, whether he deserved to die or not, it’s another question, a question of morality, religion, culture and I’m not talking about that. "To say that Arasaka is a cold man is not an argument" ???? we are talking about a guy who can rule the world, and who doesn't obey the laws does what he wants, do you think that a psychopath / murderer, governing is viable? besides, what is the point of comparing the V with the arasaka? Will V become president? who can erase and modify the mind of all humanity is the V or the arasaka? I never said that the V was holy, I don't know how it relates to this subject
@@MrDude826 jhonny had ideologies, he believed that arasaka posed a threat to humanity, "he killed thousands of people" until he knew that what he had done was wrong, but he thought for the benefit of the majority, he believed he would be saving much more and that it was a necessary sacrifice he didn’t try to kill the arasaka because someone worse can take the place, the proof of that is that during the final mission his target is not hanako or yorinobu, but mikoshi (the place where engrams were stored) he says he doesn’t comes to revenge
The one ending where V gets to live, probably with a nice body of their choice, and the game makes it seem like a bad ending with all that sentimental BS. Plus, like we saw on TV, this ending is the one that helps prevent a new war against Militech. Still not what I wanted, I wished to properly side with Arasaka as a corpo lifepath, but it's the most reasonable for one.
I doubt anyone besides him gives a rat ass about V, and takemura will make sure V gets a body not only becuase V was the only one to actually treat him good and and as friend but having V around will help him get his jobs and goals done easier thats why I was glad he was the one in charge of the engram
lmao so thankful they didn't reward players for bitching out like this and siding with arasaka. The ending for trying to save your life with arasaka and disregarding all your characters values actually makes sense
@@JeronCradle what part of “nothing you can do to hide from it” didn’t you understand? I’m hardly typing cyberpunk endings into google am I. It’s RUclips video recommendations based of interest.
@@JayTraversJT based on your searches yes. you did watch cyberpunk related stuff. you can stop that you now. and then youtube stops recommending it to you. You can also not go on youtube till youve beaten the game. The power is in your hands.
@@JeronCradle are you being serious? You expect people to cut themselves off entirely from everything? I bought the game online- that one search into google translates over to RUclips for crying out loud. Hell, you know as well as I do how big news is surrounding cyberpunk rn, positive or not. Keeping that in mind, just a casual interest in games let alone cyberpunk itself will result in cyberpunk related content showing up. The algorithm doesn’t just pick up on the game titles themselves but corresponding topics and genres. It’s quite literally impossible to hide from it... The majority doesn’t have the time to sit on their sweaty asses and burn threw a game in repeated consistent sittings with little to no breaks.
I like how he says “there have been no complaints” about the secure your soul programme when it’s not like the ppl who signed up to it in the first place could complain in at all, cause mikoshi is esentially a digital prison
This ending is done very well the scene where you walk to the chair where it's in third person you can feel the emotion of that v the pain of their body falling apart and as well as their mind and the fear of what is to come that's good story writing brought a tear to my eye
This is the ending i see is the great opening for the Online part, Arasaka found a suitable host for your body and you can download yourself into the new body, thus creating your own 'V' as a new character to play in Online. The contacts u had will know you, you are still the 'feared' V.
Adam still had his human brain which was why it was possible. The damage done to V goes all the way into his brain so they need to create a type of mechanical brain that can handle normal human processing.
@@orrthehunter V is truly fucked in every ending, but I like this one best. We could still live as a hologram or something, like Saburo did before going into Yorinobu's body. Or maybe a genetic clone of our body? Sure, our phenotype has been altered because of the chip, but I doubt Yorinobu was a genetic replica of Saburo either. Might work. Question is, who would, or *could* spend all that time and resources to bring us back to life? My man Takemura maybe? Hoping for a DLC rn...
@@motivated4863 As Takemura stated, they plan to create a artifical new body for V that he can use properly. This is probably the only ending were V can live beyond 6 months and have a body to continue with his life after and from what Takemura said if V agrees, he won't need to wait too long to get it. Without Takemura, V will just be a experiment subject because Takemura is not there to protect V since he is the only one who values the friendship with V.
Intro NOTE: I apologize about the wall of text rant. The ending and what happened around the game, combined with the current Covid-19 crisis, has made me much more talkative that I first intended when I started writing my reactions. :) ********************* Like a (very few) other people, I see that this game is missing one VERY important ending. It is made very clear at the beginning of the game that the chip will slowly but surely change V's brain to accommodate Johnny's engram ... and that by doing so, the personality in V's brain will change to that of Johnny's eventually becoming him. But the other thing that is very clear is that Johnny's engram can and DO change according to how V interact with him. To make a long story short, a story where V and Johnny's engram merge to form an entirely new personality that is based on both of them ... it should have been an available option in the game, and Viktor's explanation at the beginning was incredibly hinting at that being a possibility. But it isn't there. And it points out to one of my biggest gripe in the game along with many others (despite still having a ton of fun with the game): It is that, unlike what CDPR promised, none of your choices, in the end, actually matters. Now, we can hope for a DLC for future stories with V of course, but as it stands out, none of your choices really matters and V is going to die no matter what. Which means that everything you did was for naught. And no, Cyberpunk's bleak nature is not an excuse for this. As it been a classical story (a book, a movie, a series), having V die in the end (not matter what ending you choose), would have make for an incredible (passive) story. But for RPG game, and one that was adverstised as one where "choices matters" ... not so much. A better kind of story, where choices really matters and that take into account the dystopian and cruel nature of Cyberpunk, would be one where V and you as the player, grow close to a good amount of different people in the game. And with the choices you made ... you will be guaranteed to have some of those people die as a result of your actions, but also, some of them betraying you in a way that really, really hurts. And who gets to live, who gets to die (Johnny and V's included), and, of course, who will try to stab you in the back, would be heavily, if not entirely dépendant on the player's choices. Also, while you would be forced to to sacrifice, kill or, even worse, betray and murder some of your friends yourself, there would also have been ways to save others, and not V themselves. Now, that would be a much, much better game than this one and, even better, CDPR has proven (at least to me) that they are more than capable of writing RPG stories like that, the witcher series certainly showed that. :) But hey, those are very personal opinions, take them with a grain of salt :)
I would also like to add that, despite being incredibly flawed, I believe this game still is sound base to build on and provide an incredible and awesome game worthy of being in the same category as the witcher's game series. Now, it will be incredibly difficult for them, as they've lost an incredibly amount of trust from their player's base ... but I'd say it is doable. They will, however, need to put themselves in question and review where they massively failed, especially the managers. They seemed to be the problem there. Also, they will definitely need to treat their dev team much, much better. They did promised improvements there and failed to deliver. And as others once beloved team have proven before (like say, bioware, blizzard and others), if you treat your co-workers badly, if you don't respect them or your players, if you think that you can do no wrong based on previous beloved franchises, your arrogance will inevitably bite you in the *ss and your brand will become a shadow of its former self. I am hoping CDPR will understand that (though I am not entirely optimistic about that, though I still hope). I also hope they realize that they have to be much more open to what they are working on, show more footage of the current state of the game, allow people to see how the game dev progresses and in general, be much more open in their communication with their player's base. Seeing what happened with cyberpunk, I cannot help but be worried for "Bloodline 2", another game I've been waiting for so long. Unfortunately, what I am seeing seem to indicate I could have the same of disappointement as with Cyberpunk. Fortunately, I am getting the other side of the coin with the developpement of Baldur's gate 3 which, despite being in early access, has shown to be actually a completely unexpected surprise. Not that game is in dev, but that it seems that they will be able to deliver an awesome game based on what I've seen of it so far :)
@@lamiakitsune There's more than bugs that I find annoying in this game but, even in its flawed form, I am, again, enjoying it a lot. Sometimes, I want to create some sort of 'petition', but not for things like "pay us back" or any crap like this but, rather, the kind that allow more reasonable players (and I see a lot of them in the cyberpunk community) who would like to make guenuine recommendations to make this game shift from good to "witcher" like quality and beyond :) I am doing my second run of the game and, the introduction part of the game seems much more different than the later part. And while the later part were still certainly enjoyable, for some reasons, the early part of the game seems more "cyberpunk" like to me ... and in the best of ways :) (especially the first mission with bug and Jackie. it has a much more cyberpunk edge to it with a small yet whole team that work together to pull a "run").
I think it was a cool element that they didn’t add the optional quest to save takemura (unless it was a glitch) It made going to find out yourself if he was still alive more thrilling than knowing you can save him
I prefer to think that as a Male V with Panam I will find some cure or even die after 6 moths of good life than copy my identity and life as a copy of myself some day wtf
Funny thing, with Panam ending V died in arasaka tower. The V with panam at the end is the copy you are talking about.... If you weren't paying atention Alt used soulkiller on you....
as someone who reads tarot, Misty's interpretation of it is very surface level. There really isn't any major arcana that's inherently good or bad, except maybe the devil or the tower, but even then you can find positive in it. If anything, the fool should be pretty promising for V- meaning the beginning of a new journey and optimism, and the High Priestess (assuming that's Hanako) doesn't look all that bad, either. High Priestess isn't evil, she encourages self-reflection and moral guidance, but also has secrecy. The High Priestess is not a selfish woman. Moon is mystery, but also self-deception, so at least they got that one right to an extent. They definitely botched some of the cards, should've used the court, or at least more reversed meanings, if they wanted something to more accurately reflect the story. Or maybe they left it vague intentionally in case there's ever a sequel? tho I'd have to pull some saburo shit if I wanted to see that in my lifetime lmao
@@Gabi-ik4rt The purpose of her tarot isn't to take tarot seriously. It is to give some foreshadowing in a fun way. The meaning of tarot cards can also have shifted in the 57 years between today and the game.
404Dannyboy They don’t just use it for foreshadowing, it’s also used around the map for environmental storytelling- my favorite instance is using the tower, a card that represents chaos and complete upheaval of everyday life, at the bombing sit of Arasaka Tower. If they’re gonna include tarot, it’s so much better to have accurate meanings. There’s a lot of potential when it comes to tarot, and while yes I get the symbolism between major characters/monuments in the game, it feels a little half baked at points, which is unfortunate when just about every other part of the story is pretty satisfying and well-written. Probably just another corner that had to be cut 🤷♀️ Also, I don’t know why tarot would change meaning just cause it’s 2077...? Tarot has been around since the 1400s and the major arcana is one of the most well established parts of tarot. If they did change it, they’d have to explain it in canon and I haven’t seen anything like that in game. Either way, still fun to analyze the symbolism, especially considering it’s something I’m passionate about! I hope they sell a deck with the art in-game 😁 cause while the figures don’t always reflect the card’s meaning, there’s so much more to be interpreted with art.
@@Gabi-ik4rt Tarot as a form of divination is much younger and the meanings there in have changed over time. Tarot is only as old as the 1400's as a gaming card deck disassociated with any modern mystical meanings.
404Dannyboy but still, why change the meaning of what we have right now and not inform the player? And the meanings have remained pretty universal for the past ~150 years, even more so if you’re looking at the major arcana used in game. The major arcana depicts the fool’s journey to enlightenment, starting with the fool and working your way all the way to the world, and that hasn’t seemed to change in universe. Pretty sure CDPR just bought into the fact that tarot is getting popular again and included it in their game (see: dragon age)
I 100% agree with Johnny. I've always lived by a certain code & thought it was important to do so. I have a belief system on how one should carry themselves & I have always stuck to that. I can't say the same for a lot of other ppl. Most ppl these days seem to only do what benefits them without a single thought for anyone else. That ain't my motto.
You boys better not get married. You can't tell the difference between a good, loyal woman who will follow you to hell and back, and the average h o e s.
Takemura is the only reason why I liked arasaka.
Yup
Agreed. I went for the Nomad ending. Felt really bad about Takemura. I hope he didn’t commit Seppuku, and instead joined up with a nomad clan Like I had advised earlier.
@@awesomechainsaw Nah he definitely killed himself, he's too stubborn or too loyal. He despise weakling such as Nomads he only wants to grow in strength
Yep, his character grows on you. In my game he died long before this part, but left his imprint. But his life story was the reason I started to despise Arasaka.
I started a whole new playthrough just to save him, because I didn‘t know you could do it in my first playthrough
I think the biggest twist was realizing that Yaurinobo was not out to be like his father at all, rather he truly wished to destroy Arasaka’s empire.
Right low-key think this is not a decent ending anymore and that Panam is the only remotely good option
@@lamiakitsune
I think the secret ending is the best. V storms with Johnny into the Arasaka tower and either Johnny takes over V's body, or V lives for 6 months and is truly a night city legend + destroying Arasaka from inside.
@@lamiakitsune The Rogue and Johnny route is easily the better and more complete ending imo. I don't see how any other ending compares.
@@10shredder00 2 waifus ending is comfier, because you get to keep both waifus.
When I played this one and saw yorinobu wanted to end the family basically, I was startled and then realized that endings that leave hanako dead (I think the Panam ending mentions she dies in the tower) are way more satisfying.
"Visit me in Kagawa - I will show you what is real food."
That made me smile.
SAME XD
Reminds me of the text messages he sends you instead of using the search engine 😂 "CAN YOU EAT ANYTHING IN NIGHTCITY?"
...yeah, i just dyin to see if they both really made it to Kagawa and have that date, xD
Sameeee
Might be the happiest moment of this whole ending. If you make it out, Takemura will be waiting.
"Shame you chose wrong. Damn shame."
These words hurt as hell
Facts :(
I got real sad when he said that to me because I played Panam's first and it was something sweet instead
Not really. Only seems like that because they seemingly rewrote most of the narrative as V was a streetkid. If they really leaned into the lifepath choice V would have more than earned themselves a career back in Arasaka or some such, after they make them a new body, if you just want a good career path back.
The goal as Dex would put it after the Heist was no longer blaze of glory or quiet life, it was just simply don't fucking die.
With the options they have laid out now for the finale it's, be reborn eventually and return to Corpo life, or wherever you want to go after. Become a Night City legend and go on another kamikaze run at a space casino, blaze of glory, and/or still die in 6 months. Or live with the Nomads for 6 months, then die. Or give Johnny your body and go into the net, which is sort of like dying though they leave it rather ambiguous.
@@EricLing64 but my V isnt a corpo, so getting offed by Arasaka in some sterile lab is a depressing ending for a street kid or a nomad. Corpo getting to be with Arasaka? Sure. But me? I prefer the blaze of glory path with Johnny.
The irony of Johnny's preference for "a blaze of glory" is how he lives a calm peaceful life if you give him the body instead. Perspective.
Takemura seems like he actually cares about you.
He the homie
He was the bodyguard for the ceo of arasaka and even after his death wanted nothing but justice for the company he was pure loyalty
Hellman isn't that bad honestly, he's surprisingly nice
Only if you choose the Arasaka ending, though. I called on the Nomads for help and he told me "rot in hell, kuso" (kuso is shit, btw) in the credits.
@@BaronVonHoovy exactly, no idea if that was supposed to be rude or what
Text messages with Takemura is the reason why they have such a good chemistry together
Lol the text messages with him were funny
Oh yeah 😅😂 what a boomer he was. But he was funny
Right XD
The one with the cowboy impression he does is super funny
@@almalone3282 i don't remember that one. Can you explain
My guy Takemura is so good, can't get enough of this dude :')
Facts 2nd best char only loses to skippy
@@lamiakitsune how you just gonna forget jackie like that
@@markarthcityguardTM who?
A stubborn dog he is, nothing good when you don’t hold the leash.
@@lamiakitsune Johnny is a cool wingman, Skippy is a tragedy.
Game ends tragically.
V: "AR-H SHIT!"
*relic malfunction*
"I didn't turn off the oven!"
That's just v waking up in mikoshi
Lmao
"Oof"
I wouldn't mind a DLC where we play as Takemura trying to get a new body for V after the events of the game
Hopefully
That is a horrible plot
@@AvianEdits a little blunt but ok
@@hystericallover5989 maybe. But true
@@AvianEdits Mind explaining why? Because I think it's a good idea. Your new best friend is trying to help any way he can. It could take place 15/20 years in the future and end with V waking up.
Goro Takemura, Jackie Welles, Johnny Silverhand. Something about the main side characters of this game just keeps gravitating me and pulling me back in. Regardless of the bugs, I do enjoy these characters very much.
Same the characters carried the game
And the bugs are disappearing, and the game is only getting better. CDPR are pulling a Hello Games, slowly but surely. I believe in them. This game touched me like no other game has with its story. Its gameplay is pretty fun and the world is incredible.
And yeah, this ending in particular shows you Goro is a real G, even if he's playing for the wrong side. Too bad Jackie and Johnny had to die for V (in this ending) to see that...
Honestly, as Arasaka, a merc like V is a fking gift, should be getting that body ASAP. I dunno about everyone else, but my V has a significantly long list of achievements, especially in the kill or capture department. Even just going off the main quest, V beat Oda and Smasher despite not having ‘top corporate implants’ and other equipment. Now THAT is a true legend in the making. Give V some actual equipment and she/he will be babayaga.
Having the real babyaga in V's brain is like have aimbot in real life bro, give some credit to Mr John
honestly the whole thing started giving me Gordon Freeman vibes after a bit. going on ice for unspecified future developments and a shady deal? One of the Emperor's lackeys or someone else to wake you up to get put to use in some corpo plot... might be a nifty storyline.
@@bartofii Really reminded me of Altered Carbon more than anything else. The series is essentially a sequel to the Cyberpunk 2077 world.
But what about Lizzy Wizzy? Cyborg chrome V? Yes please
It’s either they think V is not worth it like their CEO does (I think he is the only one that has ever gotten a new body and it only his son’s) or it’s purely technology issue like actual compatibility problem or they can’t breed artificial body like cloning with current technology
But it’s Arasaka so who knows
i just noticed that before the ending he always called any Arasaka with sama to be respectful, like hanako sama. But in the ending he called hanako by her full name, hanako arasaka, multiple times. Maybe he’s not happy that hanako can’t help V.
I never caught that. I think he's legitimately upset that nothing could've been done for V other than what we see here.
I actually had this whole discussion with a friend of mine.
Using ones full name is very formal, like a full title. Like introducing someone in the courts you would say their full name, title, and maybe honorifics. But its also kind of odd. Most would default to the last name because you say that first anyway (Aka calling Saburo, Arasaka-Sama) Since the last name is the clan name, that alone should have weight. So Takemura saying her full name sounds like he's reintroducing Hanako to V, which I suppose in a way he is because Hanako would have definitely changed after everything. She is not the same person Takemura had known and respected.
Overall, not using honorifics implies either closeness, or rudeness. It all depends on the context. In this case, I believe you are right in that Takemura isn't satisfied with how Hanako treated V. He clearly shows displeasure at the fact V is kept in a cage and how they treated him/her. Also Takemura said he was being transferred. I don't know if its just me, but I think he asked to be transferred back to Japan, not was suddenly transferred. If if were me, I wouldn't continue to stay Saburo's bodyguard either.
@@shadowofdarkness22He probably started dislike her because she made him break his vow to V. He promised Arasaka had a way to save him and he couldn't keep his promise after V has done their part. Which goes against his code of honor.
The sad thing is that V’s friends don’t know what really happened to them, which is bleak.
Yea :(
Panam new exactly what happened to my nomad v. I mean to the point she was going to find Johnny to the end of the earth
Can u explain :) ?
Don't worry, with the Arasaka DLC technology, our engram will be restored to a fully-functional Arasaka Cyber-Synthetic lifeform to hook up with our chooms. *Final research still pending; expected timeframe of availability may vary. Please allow 50-75 years of development. Soul package is not available for plans below the Platinum Corporate Executive Insurance Plan(PCEIP).
U can actually call them after the surgery in the space station
No reason to get devil ending without Takemura.
Facts its just awful otherwise
I just did i had no idea you could save takemura
@@ribmaster4517 did you still get the achievement?
@@deanbyrne5334 no
@@ribmaster4517 you had to go back in the room and save takemura when you meet yorinobu’s sister
Ive seen all the endings and this one hits me hard. Title ‘The Devil’ fits so greatly with the core of this endings meaning. And if youve done that tarot card quest throughout the game, now you get the real meaning of it lol
@Lovelace's Automaton Every endings name is presented by Misty’s tarot interpretation. I didn’t complete that quest on first run so it was pretty interesting to me
@Lovelace's Automaton the devil, faustian deal
You get what you wish for, but it never ends with your satisfaction, mostly detrimental to your being, in physical or soul
Who wants to live forever?
that aged well@@InstagramAWrestlingHistorian
I was so pissed to find out that Takemura could have been saved after the apartment collapsed. I didn’t even think of looking for another route other than the obvious exit due to the urgency of the situation. At least I know for my next playthrough.
I literally charge-jumped my way back up from the hole I fell down in and fought my way out of the building from there with Takemura alongside me the whole way. He might be too blinded by loyalty to see how tyrannical his master is, but I respect the hell out of that man.
Takemura ain’t worth saving after all this shit! 👆😪
I restarted my entire playthrough just for Takemura. Im taking the game pretty slow and doing a lot more than before as well so that I can be better prepared for everything. Takemura easily became my favorite character which surprised me.
Same here🥲🥲
All i want is an ending with both johnny and v getting out alive..
I was kinda hoping for an ending where they merge personalities, kind of like what happened with Delamain if you have enough intelligence level.
or at least we can find a body for Johnny so we can fight together with John Wick
@@alita8900 that would have been a good ending
Let Johnny take your body. Johnny in V's body could be a real handfull for Netwatch. He might be able to extract you from behind the blackwall. All the while Panam is trying to extract Johnny from V's body. But Johnny doesn't want to hurt Panam but She keeps messing with him. Meanwhile V is slowly becoming a demi-god behind the black wall and he has to deside wether to tear down the blackwall and escape or to help Netwatch restrain the AI.
All ending you canonically die in 6 months at most
Watching Johnny so let down is simply heartbreaking. He's not even mad. Even if it's just for the sake of a playthrough, I can't go through this ending.
The station feels like the Mikoshi itself... think about it. Arasaka has no reason to keep their word. They could have put v’s engram directly into the Mikoshi. The everyday health check ins are just a computer program stimulating v’s engram and run testing on it. What we see are simply visual stimulation, a simulation making v’s engram thinks himself/herself is still alive. All the “real” scenes has this weird color grading, while the “dreams” all have more realistic color. The final deciding scene is just another dream... the title “where is my mind” also is hinting this. Why ask where is my mind if v’s mind is in her brain all along? The personality check is also a lot like the one in blade runner that check whether V’s engram has turned into an AI and lost its humanity.
Seems to make a lot of sense now that I think about it
interesting theory but being able to call home dosent make alot of sense if this was true
Well a part of your brain was removed
Well, if you choose to not sign the contract, you can see in the cutscene the station name MIKOSHI ;-)
So very possible you're right sir.
Or maybe they have that low orbit station for pacients not being able to escape from it. And there is where they take the engrams from living people and then store it in the actual mikoshi
Damn the dialogue is actually different when Hellman was talking to you. Was half expecting them to do the lazy thing and have them both say the same exact dialogue word for word. Takemura even reacts differently to your frustration than Hellman.
Because takemura is your BFF :D
I don't know. I felt betrayed by Takemura, but I also think he's Naive. If he believe Arasaka will give me a new body, he's falling for their bullshit again. So the only other alternative is he's in on it and knows I'll be fucked.
I couldn't watch the ending, my heart wrenched either way.
i dont think he betrayed u. he seems like a very pure character. he cared about his duty, and vengeance, and not much about other things. so u cant really blame him for betraying u since he might not have understood all the consequences.
@@vatyunga Nah the contract also doesn't consider you a person so you are technically not protected by the law meaning they don't really have to abide by the contract since once you become an engram you are technically dead.
Its your typical legal trap. You hope they would hold to the agreement, but they can also fuck you over or modify your psyche.
@@vatyunga not to mention, when they put an engram into a new body, it is a copy of your personality digitised by Arasaka‘s technology, hence the Name SoulKiller. You won’t actually be you anymore, you are dead while a copy of you will live again. So what’s the point of doing this in the first place if you are already dead?
@@LoLKriztya According to this view, with the other endings, you die the moment you enter the cyberspace, where Alt separate you and Johnny into two engrams, then put you or him back into the body, because at that moment the "original" you is also dead, and only a copy engram remains to be downloaded back.
Slasher That’s because your ideologies don’t align with corpos. Takemura sides with Arasaka in a world with no clear rights or wrongs. Although corporates are known for their obvious corruption, there are still cases like Takemura and Hanako who upheld her agreement without betrayal. Rebels like Johnny on the other hand may be against corpo greed. But that still doesn’t change the fact that he’s a terrorist and is responsible for the deaths of thousands due to the nuke. Even people like V and Jackie aren’t angels. Their careers consist of stealing and killing for eddies. Whether your V is morally good or not depends on the types of gigs you choose. The game largely consists of V being at the bottom of society where the narrative is to be against corpos. If the majority game mainly took place within Arasaka as a personnel who works there, players would have a complete different perspective of what’s good and wrong in cyberpunk.
In the end my boi Takemura was the only one caring, the others neither answered a phone call or were to busy watching BD series.
Facts takemura the only real one :(
I don't think that you're really talking to your friends at that point. Their responses just felt too weird and out of character... I think it's either V imagining it or Arasaka setting up some kind of AI to make you think you're talking to them and get the feeling your friends abandoned you... That way V would be more open to the tests and to staying with Arasaka, since they have no friends to return to anymore
Im happy to see that im not the ''only one'' who cares about Takemura and helped him in that hotel. I had good relationship with him and rly enjoyed his convos with me. Never forget his messages about food. I felt that he is a real bro who cares about you when you care about him. Maybe i liked him so much because he had one thing that i care in life the most. Honesty.
Damn I didn't know I could saved him shit I should have saved the game before the mission
The way he talks is quite fatherly and in that sense he's a cute character. Too bad he's on the opposing team.
I wanted to save him but I saw no option damn it!!! I'm sorry takemura son I refunded the game, u will have to wait
Takemura is literally the only reason why I hesitated in choosing the non-Devil and suicide endings. Because of how he winds up in those endings during the credits.
I also care the most about honesty. Takemura was a real bro. And he was funny too. I enjoyed his messages too lol
Anyone else feel more of a connection to Takemura compared to Jackie
Yea takemura is the true homie
I liked them both equally maybe Jackie a bit more but you spend way more time with Takemura so you cant compare them that much
That's because you played a longer time period with takemura. If CDPR didn't cut the content and let us play the 6 months montage (which summarizes how they start out in Night City) then we wouldve had a better connection to Jackie.
Business Mail agreed. That would be cool for a dlc wouldn’t it??
they shot themselves in the foot by doing that stupid "6 months later" montage, instead of letting us actually get to know Jackie better and build up our friendship.
there should’ve been an ending where v and johnny become one
That would of been sick asf
Ghost in the shell?
That's what I thought, on the arasaka ending, johnny tells you the barrier between them was gone for some time. I was hoping for that in Johnny's ending
Well technically by the end they meld into sorta V or Sorta Johnny. Think about the shift we went from robbing Street thugs to breaking into Arksaka to slaughtering the Corps elites. V become more willing to do things differently and violently. Johnny became upstanding and caring. Sentimental even.
Literally
man Takemura's voice actor is really good at what hes doing
FACTS he's a legend
I actually had to read the text because i didn't understand 'was' and 'were' but nevertheless he did a great job
As they said in the game: "everybody's gotta go someday, question is, how you want to leave"
I'd go for 'Dont fear the reaper' ending
No be friends with Johnny and earn the win.
Definitely the coolest way to go out
I definitely want to do that next time. I've built up my V to be quite a tank, so I just wanna waltz through Arasaka mowing down baddies until I smash Smasher and bring the tower down.
Takemura and Jacky are definitely the most memorable characters in this game
And Skippy!
@@lamiakitsune Reason for firing... unknown.
Panam?
Jacky? Non existent npc thanks to cut content lmfao, why is he memorable to you? Even Regina Jones is more memorable to me
@@shouwy9186 jackie welles? How is he not memorable?
I love how the emotion tests the doctor runs on you is the same one the Blade Runners use on people to identify Replicants.
I'm glad someone else pointed that out! I got massive Blade Runner vibes from the final emotional testing.
DLC for sure coming, even dose side jobs give so many hints, THERE IS MUCH more to do man, its amazing.
Facts
@@lamiakitsune the DLCs will more then likely be playing as the other story chrs or even Johnny during the story events.
@@Azazel_Leviticus ignoring one Ending with V storming Space station? Johony Rute
@@exvex5108 To generic & the most boring ending.
Really hoping they make an expansion for the Peralez family too. That story had me hooked all the way to the very abrupt ending
When I got this ending I felt so empty, the soundtrack only helped intensify it. I hate that this game is getting shit on right now but in reality it has such a good story.
I have a feeling that this game will do much better in people's retrospectives tbh
@@cidasanctus3373Agreed, even though it fell back on many core elements it's still rich in story.
@@ablaze3763 I mean yeah, could'a put more punk into this Cyberpunk game, but honestly I think it was pretty much almost the best you could do translating the pen and paper game into a video game
exactly i had this ending the first time and the sound track ,, omg i felt so empty
People gripe that the story is linear, but all stories are linear, it's unavoidable.
V’s voice actor did an absolutely phenomenal job!
Yea I like her voice
@@lamiakitsune So do I. Great, and natural deliveries. She's the VA for Asuna in the SAO anime dubs, and Sarada Uchiha in the Boruto dub as well. Honestly, she's in lots of great dub roles- but those two are more recent/recognizable. Loads of games, too. Her wiki resume is extensive.
Am i the only who doesn't find V's voice so amazing? I mean i like it but for the first time in my life i have to say that polish dub is my favourits this time
@@duvaughnkelly6947 yeah, male's voice is better in this game
Male V did better though.
The way misty says “those aren’t good cards” and “keep a close eye on your new friends” does not bode well for V, most likely stuck in Mikoshi forever
Right :/
Takemura is the reason that I trust Arasaka for finding me a new body.
It's the only reason you will get one lol
Engram is just a copy. The origional V dies as soon as its switched on. Plus between the fool tarrot card, Vs sudden realisation swear word, victor warning space may effect her cybernetics (visual distortions etc) and johnny saying shed made the wrong choice. Perhaps Takemura was kept in the dark about the ploy or his loyalty to his reborn CEO is more than to V.
"You are not the one who cheated death. Death the one who is cheated you."
They used Soulkiller on V so she is already dead, the engram is a copy, a program without a soul. An idea taken directly from the book called Neuromancer by William Gibson, where are a famous hacker Dixie Flatline who is made into a brain card and used as an ai basically.
Similarly to Alt Cunningham in cp2020, who uploaded her conciousness to the Net, becoming an ai in the process, real Alt died there too.
@@bef5582 but a personallity that is an exact copy of you and lives in your own body is still you.
@@bef5582 Johnny is also a victim of the soul killer, and seeing how he came back in V’s body, I’m fine with that.
i saw a catch, Takemura mention current tech can not provide a new body for V, so the DLCs could be about V's new body (you know, where we can do another character customize and that become V's new body)
Doubt that.
I doubt CP2077 will have DLCs :(
@@kiara6237 why? CDPR literally said their will be dlcs down the line
@@kiara6237 dlcs are confirmed i saw a tweet of some sort about it
I was hugely disappointed when I realized that Takemura wasn't a potential LI, because the chemistry he had with my V was amazing, and, based on their teasing banter through the text messages, I was more than ready to surrender :) ..But then, they had to crush my hopes for finding any kind of descent romance in the game...I mean River? That's the only option for straight female Vs? CDPR could have taken some lessons from Bioware in the romance area, for sure....Could we have hope for him in a future DLC?
Really dislike my tomgirl waifu didn't love me but Judy who EVERYONE was after was girl only atleast female V gets to live with both in my ending
And yes takemura was my fav char
@@lamiakitsune I'm really disappointed with myself with letting him die in my first playthrough, I was really confused for the rest of it (regarding takemura) because they just never talked about him again so I didn't know if he was dead or not
tell me about it, it was actually a thing I was so looking forward to, for some reason i went into the game convinced he'd be a romance option
Whats your problem with River?
Both this ending and Panam ending leave a future DLC available in which V can get a new body either by Arasaka giving him one or they go to Arasaka to steal the body.
this would be an awesome dlc
No this ending is too finite for an Expansion. Like the suicide ending the game cuts to a distant emptiness.
Panam ending implies v survives anyway via mistys tarot cards
I feel the space one is more open for dlc considering there is a space station you can’t access yet.
Also the Mr. Blue Eyes ending
Takemura DLC in Japan looking for a new body :)
Facts
And for the Johnny Silverhand ending, it’s Panam looking for Johnny to get revenge for V
Jackie and Takemura were the best
Takemura is the only good things about Arasaka....
Wouldn't have minded a romance with him *eyebrow wiggle*
Facts
I think their age gap is too large; not enough in common.
@@howlingdin9332 kerry is romanceable and he's like 80 so....
@@howlingdin9332 heh true love sees no borders xd
Yeah i agree, devs should have given us a romance option. He's a good character. I'd romance him
Takemura is great but Jackie will stay for sure deep in my chest. Best homie. I wish I could have saved him.
Just realised something. Johnny ending is Blaze of Glory. Nomad ending is the quiet life.
Arasaka ending is just losing everything, Imagine trusting Arasaka not to fuck with your head in Mikoshi.
damn it! I didnt know I could save Takemura!
The Devil ending without him just left a sour taste in my mouth.
Now that i've seen this, I might say that this may be one of the more positive ending.
I say without him its prob the worst or 2nd worst, with him its the 2nd best
I didn't know either but I got back upstairs to check whether I could save him or not
i think hajime's quote has a lot of feeling and meaning behind it as well, i cant really place what it is but the way he says it and the timing in general feels like something that has way more weight and is more hidden than other things in the game
Yea
Feels like, “keep hope and faith. When you get out of that prison, you must remember the home that made you who you are, and return.”
I did the Panam ending and my babe Judy came with (Female V). So as far as endings go i guess i got the best one,nobody was sad in the credits either. I accidentally let Goro die cause the quest doesn't give you the option from the get go to save him,but now that i learned that he kills himself if you go with Panam i'm glad i let him die fighting.
yeah same, thats the best possible ending we can get..
Disagree. That's an ending where you leave a city with all contacts u need in order to save yourself, plus you dont even go straight with any partner that u are still dying. They assume you still do, but the words of V saying that they're still dying are never spoken.
The "secret" ending in space is the best. You are straight honest with everybody, and stay in order to find a cure and finish one last job that Johnny would've loved. (Since u need a good relationship with Johnny to trigger that ending.)
I am sure that is the most canon ending, because I can totally see them make two major DLC's. One where we are in space, the other when we are back on Earth and then get to find a cure. Ingame broadcasts of people selling islands were all over too, so I can definitely see CDPR pull a "Blood & Wine" on us. A DLC where we all get the happy ending, true happy ending, we wanted and an island of our own. That would be the best choice, imo.
@@wellendoxairfix you die alone still “ a legend” having become more like Johnny, the Panam ending you die with a family tell me which one is better then
The strategy guide’s extras section makes it explicitly clear that V will “spend eternity ensnared as an engram inside Mikoshi” and Hanako would never release them.
One of the best games that has my playing the campaign multiple times just to see multiple endings. I’m impressed. Looking forward to some crazy DLCs
This is definitely one of the "better" endings only because of goro and without goro it sucks, and I'm still alot happier I left with Panam and Judy definitely alot more important to me
Facts takemura carrys this ending
the other endings he's probably better off dead though. since he hates V and V kills everyone he cared about.
the nomad ending is objectively the happiest way out for female v and judy tagging along for the trip, absolutely heartwarming
Yep, Nomad ending is the best ending overall, for both male and female (for males, Judy still has a happy ending, thankfully).
Being a female V leaving with Panam and Judy is the happiest possible endings.
The game is depressing. I got this ending when I first played it and was like “wow. This is how it all ends I guess” then again there are 7 endings. I ended getting two more. The suicide ending which was worse. The Panam ending was actually a good one.
Panams the only good ending esp if female V
Judy is best love interest and Nomad ending is where they're both happy.
For me its:
Secret ending > Panam Ending > Rogue ending > Suicide ending > Johnny alive ending > Any scenario of Arasaka ending
There are 2 "good endings" for me:
Secret is you taking care of your shit, standing face to face to your problems and solving them. Its not being afraid of anything. Failure? You lose if you dont try! Death? You die even if you dont try! SO, why not do this? + V solves it on his own, not binding himself to anyone else AND if hes succesful he/she can join Panam or Judy (or Kerry/River if you romanced those guys) and live hapily; if he fails, he will be the only one to see himself in the bed for the last weeks and the closest will still remember him as a person full of life and hope; not the nopeless, pain wrecked human he will become after like 5 months.
Panam ending is you trusting the closest and accepting defeat almost. Its escaping from your fight, hoping that others will save you, refusing to try to do it yourself. You also connect yourself with people around you more than in any other ending and your crash landing and death can be much more painful for them should you fail to save yourself. On the bright side, you will live AT LEAST 6 months with best people in the game (Dakota, Panam, Mitch, Carol, or Cassidy) and be happy at least for 5 months with them AND they could maybe help him. Another major issue is that Saul and Bob die because of you, for you when you could handle all of it yourself. (I think some unnamed Aldecaldos must have died as well off screen and not important => nobody mentions them.)
The Rogue ending has a major set back or something bad with it:
Rogue ending is essentially a secret ending minus the courage, willingness to do things your way and on your own, have your fate in your own lands and act. In this ending you just surrender control and let others do stuff for you. This ending also murders Rogue which is making this ending SO MUCH WORSE than the secret ending and possibly other people from Afterlife. Also, Johnny mentions to not take your close ones into this and he takes his best woman into this matter. Johnny then goes behind the black wall knowing that he murdered Rogue to buy you 6 months which must be terrible for him.
There are 3 "bad endings" for me:
Suicide ending while being the cleanest, easiest solution to everything. Its actually a solution to nothing. You refusing to fight, refusing to look for solutions, cowardly evading your problem and hurting everyone you like in the process, Judy most of all (wouldnt be surprised if she followed the Evelyn's and V's example). Suicide is simply something I would do only if there was nothing better for me. (For example if I was sentenced to death via torture with no way of escaping it, then i would maybe rather suicided than die eventually in a much more painful way - I would have suicided only if I was in my final stages, forced to be in bed and I had nobody working on a solution) + Mikoshi is still with Arasaka and V can only hope that Yorinobu is successful really. If Hanako wins or his plans are somehow prevented, the world is worse than in the beginning.
Johnny ending is terrible because you make Johnny into a hypocrite (or even asshole if you go the Rogue path of promising to return the body and then not doing it) because he fought against parasitic corps sucking life out of people for their amusement, gain of power and immortality YET he does the same thing. All V's friends will hate him for it AND in case of Panam, she is a real existential threat because she was talking about hunting him down and we know Panam is never just talking. Johnny seems to have lost all will to live, rebel and stopped being Johnny. What lives in V's body is just a shadow of his former self that hates not only everyone around him BUT even himself now because of what he did to V (if Rogue died for him - what he did to Rogue) and all those sacrifices just so that he could life making him on the same level as Saburo who was willing to sacrifice people to become immortal which is for him even worse punishment than death imo because he completely ignored his ideals.
Any Arasaka ending means Saburo Arasaka is reborn, the Arasaka death machine, machine of broken dreams and insane evil lives on AND now is even immortal as long as Saburo always creates a son (yes, not "has" but "creates" because sons will be for him just his future vessels, not his children and heirs), Arasaka is stronger than ever.
If V chooses to go back to Earth its as if he chose to do nothing after the Heist, completely ignoring all his friends BUT this is even worse because he sold his soul already, helped the people that killed Jackie among many more, betrayed his friends, Johnny (if your V didnt despise him) and most of all, himself.
If V chooses to join the "Secure your soul program", he willingly gives Arasaka all rights to him as their property becoming their thing, not a person AND Arasaka would probably clone him into all their guards and make him totally obedient to them making Arasaka nearly untouchable. V would obviously never see the body or his life he was promised.
Those are my thoughts about the ending.
My computer teach once said, Hard Drives are nasty, you plug them into every device and they just spread viruses and corruption. Seeing V plug it’s self into everything’s just nasty and unsanitary 😂😂
LMFAO
I thought the same. Like, isn't V affraid of catching some virus or sth different?
Your computer teacher sounds like an intelligent person.
Maybe he have the best Window Defender on earth =]]
This ending is so fucked up that is probably the most canon one, after all, you might not survive the other endings.
survive or not eventually your mind and consciousness will be taken over by Johnny. What's fucked up is Johnny who mad as hell when V asked for Takemura and Hanako for help. Changing Arasaka is better than just killing Yorinobu.
Nah, nomad ending is canon.
@@shaevizla maybe, but then again V's Engram might end up being used in a weapon, what if Arasaka can alter his/her "soul" and put his combat expertise in something like a better version of Adam Smasher?
The Casino ending might be canon.
@@shaevizla LMAO You're a slave, that's why it's the so called Devil ending, you essentially made a deal with the devil. As a construct in their soul prison, they'll edit you until you're nothing more than an Arasaka lapdog. Hanako may even bring you back to be another dog next to Takemura. That's why the chip was only offered to the 1%, imagine how much power Arasaka would have if they can turn the entire elites of the world into Arasaka slaves. It's Subaru's ultimate win, he would have died without the chip, but thanks to you being a good guine pig he has unocked immortality and will use his own resurrection as advertisement for other elites. He essentially will rule the world in a couple of decades due to this.
I have been thinking about the different endings a lot. I feel like V choosing to merge with AI and Silverhand getting a redemption arc in form of a second life in V´s body is a suitable ending, at the same time tragic, too. There is one thing to support this, a radio report talks about AI predicting and preparing for something big, therefore one of the endings with Alt seems highly canon. It probably still makes more sense for Johnny Silverhand and Alt to be reunited on a personal level, but I feel like V would choose to save Johnny after figuring out he isn't actually the bad guy here, as it is initially suggested in their early hours. Then they bond, V gains a greater understanding of Night City, through Johnny. At the same time Johnny´s destructive nature towards himself and others improves, which is very much suggested if he inherits V´s body. Hard to explain, feels like a suitable and yet tragic solution to both character arcs, but on some level both actually survive, including V´s body. Much like the Arasaka Ending, it is also very much open ended.
The Space Casino ending feels like it brings the most closure to V´s arc, just as V (probably) set out to do, V lived a short and legendary life, since it is pretty clear V does not survive that one and solely cares about doing something so legendary, it will forever make history.
I doubt V survives the Panam ending, there is a vague suggestion he could be saved, but if even Alt has no way to prevent/cure the body from its lethal transformation, I doubt anything really can. There is a strong sense of Alt having almost god like powers once fully enabled in the tower, so it is likely no human would be able to surpass that. V and people he met along the way do actually get some happyness out of it, for a while. But no matter how you spin it, V only gets out "alive" as data, Johnny may survive as data or as a human, the Arasaka ending is the only one to actually completely kill Johnny, that´s another reason why I don't think it would be the most likely one to be canon and it is also not fitting for Johnny´s character arc to just die. That being said, it is a very interesting ending, the whole immortality plot and how the corp always wins does indeed fit how things usually seem to play out in this game and that is compelling.
In conclusion, all endings have things going for them, so yeah, the depth of the story in Cyberpunk is pretty fantastic.
fuck i left him when we got swatted i though he really dead
yeah that is the main reason i'm gonna replay the game again
Is it the moment after kidnapping Hanako?
@@TheCybusterGundam Yes. You can jump back up through the hole you fell through to get back to Takemura. But this is a hidden choice, the game doesn't show it as an option. Something I really like
@@AkilZodiac Glad i saved him.
You didn't went back to save him? What kind of bro is that. XD
The only real friend in game after Jackie .
You forgot Skippy!
Lol you forgot Johnny, he cared for V alot.
@@user-yi6xc5fd8y Tbh, Panam, Judy, River, Kerry, Johnny, Misty, Vik, Mama Wells, Mitch, Regina, Saul, Cassidy, Carol, Jeff and Eliz Peralez liked V more than Takemura imo. I think even Rogue was a better friend in the secret ending than Takemura and she was a pretty cold fixer.
Takemura just wanted V alive but didnt care. When he was saved he started to care a little but in the end. Arasaka > his life > Anybody in his life > V. Hes just a brainwashed Arasaka lapdog. People just cannot accept it.
I'm not sure how the dlc will play out for Cyberpunk. So many endings without any of them being the main one. In the Witcher 3, it didn't matter if ciri went away or stayed. You were able to play the dlcs individually or after the main story. So it's most likely possible that CDPR will likely make the dlcs indivual.
So true, the story is very good but I hate all endings. All the fights for nothing.. I want a real ending and then free roam but not like this.
The DLC is probably simply extra quests and the like.
I have a feeling, no matter what ending you pick, there is something in that space station that will save you. (All of them end with that kind of a hint). Throughout the game you hear things about the space station, the stationed rumoured to have the key to endless life.
@@VolksAlphaRogue with the setting as it is and Ghost in the Shell being one of the inspirations, it's kinda obvious that the server where the engram is stored is in the space station (thus eternal life...as a Ghost in the net). In Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex, the AI partners used by the main characters became self-aware and gained individuality. They were supposed to be wiped (as they are basically treated as malfunctioning AI), but the main character uploaded their data onto a satellite in space thus preserving them, "keeping them alive". They could then download themselves into new bodies (they were AI for SMART tanks so new tank bodies to be precise).
The endings in Cyberpunk 2077 all point to the exact way V can survive. That is by transferring the engram onto another body with 100% compatibility. The story involving Johnny also emulates the same concept in GITS where the question lies in "souls being digitized", and the question of whether or not it is just a copy with the same memories, and will digitizing the soul be the key to near-immortality by transferring the "Ghost" onto another body. If they actually stay loyal to their inspirations, I would assume V will remain as the individual "V" even though he/she has become an engram/Ghost in the network, and through that will be able to return by occupying a new body once the technology appears. This is similar to how the Major in GITS appears to mysteriously help her comrades despite her disappearance or "death" by occupying random cyber bodies with her Ghost. This is what makes her question her humanity. Is the body just a container for the soul? Or is she just a program that occupies a machine body despite thinking she is "she"?
I would definitely like to see this explored in a DLC.
I think all the endings actually hint at the DLCs. Going with Panam to a new land to find the cure would be my best bet. Bet they also might make it so the DLCs are before the end of the main game. Add more love interest and friends that can help you in the end mission and actually another way to be better friends with Johnny to get the "Don't fear the reaper" ending. Both in my head seam as good choices for a possible DLC. Or even play as Johnny in a new place in Vs body. That kinda seems off but also a goos option. They could also go the "Superior Spiderman" rout. Have Johnny take control of Vs body and then all of a sudden Vs mind comes back and Johnny's gives the body back (or doesn't, depending on how the story goes). There are actually a LOT of ways to still make a great story driven DLC for this game
God, the tears... 😭
Right :(
this end could be a good prequel to a crossover with the Altered carbon universe, later V is integrated in a new body to resolve an investigation ^^
It feels like such a unsettling ending for me, you give up your soul to the dudes who killed your best friend and god knows how long its gonna be until your in a new body, might be years? Decades? Who knows your friends and love interest might not even reconize you or so much time has past they are just dead... for me picked to live out the rest of my days until i died, i wanna imagine my v was suronded by his friends when he went out and died as a legend in their eyes
i mean lets put it like this, they put you in a dormant state while you are an engram then it would just feel like dreamless sleeping and you wake up feeling that you were put in a body instantly
It’s a shame there’s no way to get takemura to see the corps are using him.
Right :(
Takemura best man
Facts!
Meanwhile in my play through Goro tells me to rot in hell 😢
Feels bad man lol
@High Roller Quinn On my nomad play through I was as mean to Goro as I could be and never helped him much. Ended up with him saying rot in hell to me as well. Although I did save him... guess he still didn't like me... f em damn corp scum :)
@@TierDvik I saved him and me and him got on well but he still told me to rot in hell so idk maybe it’s a nomad thing
@@hyperfire1134 if you dont go with arasaka ending he hates u because you royally fuck up arasaka in the other endings
@@azeplayt4546 yeah no thats not it at all he tells you to rot in hell because you didnt help him save hanako and he is gonna kill him self after leaving that message so he really hates you
Takemaru is like a terminator Jackie Chan
LOL
Jackie :(
I feel like so many people forget about Takemura. I think he is my favorite character to work with in the game; even up there with Johnny.
In a future expansion may I go to Japan with him and enjoy some proper cuisine like he said we would? It needs to happen, please!!
This reminds me so much of altered carbon!
The Tarot reading from Misty at the end hints they didnt keep their promise and you are stuck in cyberspace hell forever.
Maybe hellman wouldn't but takemura will
Also Victor said cybernetics would play up on station. Thats why the wierd stuff was happening. Not because of failed operation. Shes been tricked. No wonder she swore on her last breath.
@@Etheral101 that was so haunting ☝️😢
@@lamiakitsune Bruh Takemura doesn't have a say in Arasaka,he's just another employee.
You are stuck in mikoshi, not cyberspace. Those are 2 different things
This ending is so much more poignant with Takemura alive
Facts
That test is just straight up a voight-kampff test
Facts
So, V seems to be getting better, her vision isn't blurry and colored anymore, she seems to be more energetic, lively, independent and... Angry... but she's dying all of a sudden, so Arasaka's plan to "help" is create an engram of the best merc Night City (and possibly the world) has ever seen...
I'm probably reading too much into this.
More like never read at all, didn't play the game. For you to came up with those load of craps.
Never mind the fact that Alt also giving the same statement.
this is the most terrifying thing ever
Facts
I'm excited to see what the future holds for Cyberpunk, especially the next game. Unlike the Witcher, Cyberpunk is essentially the wild frontier, where no one knows what we'll get next, and since V's story is done, means that the next game will allow for us to play someone else without being bound to a specific storyline.
At 12:39 that deep chime when he says 'wrong' is just haunting.
facts lol
I'm really hoping CDPR develops something to Cyberpunk past the endings. I know there are the endings that end in finality, however there are the different endings that don't end in finality, I feel they could continue the story. Despite the problems this game has had, I truly enjoyed playing this through. The characters, the voice acting, the music, the ambiance CDPR setup with these different scenarios, especially these pretty different endings.
Takemura is a shining example of how selling bullshit to someone is all about packaging.
LMFAO ty that made my day
I wish I could like this comment a thousand times.
It says right here you relinquish all rights but don't worry.
*~Really wants to flirt with Takemura but doesn't buy Arasaka's bullshit~* Can't we have a frienemies romance, like one of those "foreign spies accidentally end up sort of liking each even though they are this close to ripping the other's neck at work a gazillion times" plots?
Right
I always love hearing Misty's tarot readings. For better or for worse.
It is cool
Incredible arasaka chair technology allows your hair to phase through solid material to get the ultimate comfort factor
I really regret not saving Takemura, I had no idea it was an option. I didnt even notice the stairs to go up and save him.
I don't dislike this ending at all. The most sad thing is that when V returns in a new body (if he finally does) all the friends and loved people will be old or dead.
Also, if you hate johnny this ending is pure antijohnny, arasaka shred him :)
i don't think his friends can be so old rogue must be 70 years old and look 30. most of the people who make this ending are because they like takemura. this is a bad ending, arasaka is an evil corporation they hire assassins and mercenaries as in the case they kidnapped and killed Alt Cunninghamor what they did to jhonny torturing and killing him, they do whatever they want ignoring the laws. saboru
is a cold person killed his own son to keep his body and they’re almost taking over the world at this end, you can see people making protests against arasaka on tv during that end
@@uiquehonra2480 Johnny killed Alt, Alt even says that herself when you meet her. You're supposed to cool someone down before you take them out of the net remember the side quest with the Tiger Claws where the net runner jumps into the net to escape them so they ended up surrounding her apartment complex until she leaves? That's because if you take them out without them being cool they will get wiped but Johnny being a idiot went up and took her out leaving her body a lifeless husk. Arasaka just wanted her to program the soul killer/soul engram.
@@uiquehonra2480 Don't sound any different from any government or real life mega corporation.
Saburo's son killed him first so his son's murder is justified.
I frankly hate Johnny Silverhand. He is NOT redeemable at all no matter how social, "cool" and "empathic" he is to V. He killed 14,000 people in 1 day and is a terrorist. If he hated Arasaka so much he could just have tried to assassinate him instead of killing thousands of innocent civilians.
It's a dog eat dog world saying Arasaka is a cold man isn't an argument. V is cold and doesn't loose any sleep over all the people he/she killed. You've gotta remember...V is also a killer and a gun for hire.
@@MrDude826 regardless of whether yorinobu killed his father, it doesn’t give him the right to take justice into his own hands, there are laws, whether he deserved to die or not, it’s another question, a question of morality, religion, culture and I’m not talking about that. "To say that Arasaka is a cold man is not an argument" ???? we are talking about a guy who can rule the world, and who doesn't obey the laws does what he wants, do you think that a psychopath / murderer, governing is viable? besides, what is the point of comparing the V with the arasaka? Will V become president? who can erase and modify the mind of all humanity is the V or the arasaka?
I never said that the V was holy, I don't know how it relates to this subject
@@MrDude826
jhonny had ideologies, he believed that arasaka posed a threat to humanity, "he killed thousands of people" until he knew that what he had done was wrong, but he thought for the benefit of the majority, he believed he would be saving much more and that it was a necessary sacrifice he didn’t try to kill the arasaka because someone worse can take the place, the proof of that is that during the final mission his target is not hanako or yorinobu, but mikoshi (the place where engrams were stored) he says he doesn’t comes to revenge
The one ending where V gets to live, probably with a nice body of their choice, and the game makes it seem like a bad ending with all that sentimental BS. Plus, like we saw on TV, this ending is the one that helps prevent a new war against Militech. Still not what I wanted, I wished to properly side with Arasaka as a corpo lifepath, but it's the most reasonable for one.
I feel like if takemura dies its a bad end though
I doubt anyone besides him gives a rat ass about V, and takemura will make sure V gets a body not only becuase V was the only one to actually treat him good and and as friend but having V around will help him get his jobs and goals done easier thats why I was glad he was the one in charge of the engram
lmao so thankful they didn't reward players for bitching out like this and siding with arasaka. The ending for trying to save your life with arasaka and disregarding all your characters values actually makes sense
@@alexbaker393 I went with Panam becuase they the family
@@alexbaker393 that being said takemura was the only reason I would of went for them over Johnny
this is the "lab rat" ending
LOL
Love it when the title just flat out spoils the story for you and there’s nothing you can do to hide from it :’)
A-fucking-men
Love it when people browse the internet for cyberpunk related stuff before finishing the game first.
@@JeronCradle
what part of “nothing you can do to hide from it” didn’t you understand?
I’m hardly typing cyberpunk endings into google am I.
It’s RUclips video recommendations based of interest.
@@JayTraversJT based on your searches yes. you did watch cyberpunk related stuff. you can stop that you now. and then youtube stops recommending it to you. You can also not go on youtube till youve beaten the game. The power is in your hands.
@@JeronCradle
are you being serious?
You expect people to cut themselves off entirely from everything?
I bought the game online- that one search into google translates over to RUclips for crying out loud.
Hell, you know as well as I do how big news is surrounding cyberpunk rn, positive or not.
Keeping that in mind, just a casual interest in games let alone cyberpunk itself will result in cyberpunk related content showing up.
The algorithm doesn’t just pick up on the game titles themselves but corresponding topics and genres.
It’s quite literally impossible to hide from it...
The majority doesn’t have the time to sit on their sweaty asses and burn threw a game in repeated consistent sittings with little to no breaks.
I like how he says “there have been no complaints” about the secure your soul programme when it’s not like the ppl who signed up to it in the first place could complain in at all, cause mikoshi is esentially a digital prison
True
This ending is done very well the scene where you walk to the chair where it's in third person you can feel the emotion of that v the pain of their body falling apart and as well as their mind and the fear of what is to come that's good story writing brought a tear to my eye
Those voicemails heart-wrenching
This is the ending i see is the great opening for the Online part, Arasaka found a suitable host for your body and you can download yourself into the new body, thus creating your own 'V' as a new character to play in Online. The contacts u had will know you, you are still the 'feared' V.
Still wondering why Arasaka couldn't use a machine body as temporary solution, like Adam Smasher.
Adam still had his human brain which was why it was possible. The damage done to V goes all the way into his brain so they need to create a type of mechanical brain that can handle normal human processing.
@@orrthehunter V is truly fucked in every ending, but I like this one best. We could still live as a hologram or something, like Saburo did before going into Yorinobu's body. Or maybe a genetic clone of our body? Sure, our phenotype has been altered because of the chip, but I doubt Yorinobu was a genetic replica of Saburo either. Might work. Question is, who would, or *could* spend all that time and resources to bring us back to life? My man Takemura maybe? Hoping for a DLC rn...
@@motivated4863 As Takemura stated, they plan to create a artifical new body for V that he can use properly. This is probably the only ending were V can live beyond 6 months and have a body to continue with his life after and from what Takemura said if V agrees, he won't need to wait too long to get it. Without Takemura, V will just be a experiment subject because Takemura is not there to protect V since he is the only one who values the friendship with V.
@@orrthehunter I sure hope so. I don't want to imagine want will happen to us if he doesn't care about us.
Because greedy bastards don't want to build nanotechnology relic with brain in biopod.
Intro NOTE: I apologize about the wall of text rant. The ending and what happened around the game, combined with the current Covid-19 crisis, has made me much more talkative that I first intended when I started writing my reactions. :)
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Like a (very few) other people, I see that this game is missing one VERY important ending. It is made very clear at the beginning of the game that the chip will slowly but surely change V's brain to accommodate Johnny's engram ... and that by doing so, the personality in V's brain will change to that of Johnny's eventually becoming him. But the other thing that is very clear is that Johnny's engram can and DO change according to how V interact with him.
To make a long story short, a story where V and Johnny's engram merge to form an entirely new personality that is based on both of them ... it should have been an available option in the game, and Viktor's explanation at the beginning was incredibly hinting at that being a possibility. But it isn't there.
And it points out to one of my biggest gripe in the game along with many others (despite still having a ton of fun with the game):
It is that, unlike what CDPR promised, none of your choices, in the end, actually matters. Now, we can hope for a DLC for future stories with V of course, but as it stands out, none of your choices really matters and V is going to die no matter what. Which means that everything you did was for naught.
And no, Cyberpunk's bleak nature is not an excuse for this. As it been a classical story (a book, a movie, a series), having V die in the end (not matter what ending you choose), would have make for an incredible (passive) story. But for RPG game, and one that was adverstised as one where "choices matters" ... not so much.
A better kind of story, where choices really matters and that take into account the dystopian and cruel nature of Cyberpunk, would be one where V and you as the player, grow close to a good amount of different people in the game. And with the choices you made ... you will be guaranteed to have some of those people die as a result of your actions, but also, some of them betraying you in a way that really, really hurts.
And who gets to live, who gets to die (Johnny and V's included), and, of course, who will try to stab you in the back, would be heavily, if not entirely dépendant on the player's choices. Also, while you would be forced to to sacrifice, kill or, even worse, betray and murder some of your friends yourself, there would also have been ways to save others, and not V themselves.
Now, that would be a much, much better game than this one and, even better, CDPR has proven (at least to me) that they are more than capable of writing RPG stories like that, the witcher series certainly showed that. :)
But hey, those are very personal opinions, take them with a grain of salt :)
I would also like to add that, despite being incredibly flawed, I believe this game still is sound base to build on and provide an incredible and awesome game worthy of being in the same category as the witcher's game series.
Now, it will be incredibly difficult for them, as they've lost an incredibly amount of trust from their player's base ... but I'd say it is doable.
They will, however, need to put themselves in question and review where they massively failed, especially the managers. They seemed to be the problem there. Also, they will definitely need to treat their dev team much, much better. They did promised improvements there and failed to deliver.
And as others once beloved team have proven before (like say, bioware, blizzard and others), if you treat your co-workers badly, if you don't respect them or your players, if you think that you can do no wrong based on previous beloved franchises, your arrogance will inevitably bite you in the *ss and your brand will become a shadow of its former self.
I am hoping CDPR will understand that (though I am not entirely optimistic about that, though I still hope).
I also hope they realize that they have to be much more open to what they are working on, show more footage of the current state of the game, allow people to see how the game dev progresses and in general, be much more open in their communication with their player's base.
Seeing what happened with cyberpunk, I cannot help but be worried for "Bloodline 2", another game I've been waiting for so long. Unfortunately, what I am seeing seem to indicate I could have the same of disappointement as with Cyberpunk.
Fortunately, I am getting the other side of the coin with the developpement of Baldur's gate 3 which, despite being in early access, has shown to be actually a completely unexpected surprise. Not that game is in dev, but that it seems that they will be able to deliver an awesome game based on what I've seen of it so far :)
Yea even with the bugs I still liked it
@@lamiakitsune There's more than bugs that I find annoying in this game but, even in its flawed form, I am, again, enjoying it a lot.
Sometimes, I want to create some sort of 'petition', but not for things like "pay us back" or any crap like this but, rather, the kind that allow more reasonable players (and I see a lot of them in the cyberpunk community) who would like to make guenuine recommendations to make this game shift from good to "witcher" like quality and beyond :)
I am doing my second run of the game and, the introduction part of the game seems much more different than the later part.
And while the later part were still certainly enjoyable, for some reasons, the early part of the game seems more "cyberpunk" like to me ... and in the best of ways :)
(especially the first mission with bug and Jackie. it has a much more cyberpunk edge to it with a small yet whole team that work together to pull a "run").
Ngl the devil pic scared the hell out of me at night.
Truly a man of honor, but also a slave to it.
_[slamming fists on table]_ LET ME ROMANCE THIS FUCKING MAN!
Facts
Takemura was such a bro
Facts
I think it was a cool element that they didn’t add the optional quest to save takemura (unless it was a glitch) It made going to find out yourself if he was still alive more thrilling than knowing you can save him
Never forget. They named the project soul killer. They used it on their greatest foe. A fate worse than death.
I wanna see a dlc where we try and find a way to live I think that would be cool
Same
I prefer to think that as a Male V with Panam I will find some cure or even die after 6 moths of good life than copy my identity and life as a copy of myself some day wtf
Lmao same I just convinced myself they found some cure
Funny thing, with Panam ending V died in arasaka tower. The V with panam at the end is the copy you are talking about.... If you weren't paying atention Alt used soulkiller on you....
@@mateuszmika1079 she use the soulkiller to extract Johny engram
@@Arkxel Partly. Soulkiller first kills V. That's how it works... Wipes the mind then creates engram. Copy is then put in place of real V.
That fucking cube scared the shit out of me.
SAME I WAS UP AT LIKE 5 AM I SCREAMED LOL
Takemura was a good man stuck on the wrong side, i never got this ending
(Looks up tarot meanings of the Fool, Moon and High Priestess) Hmm, we are being lied to in this ending, or that a lot of stuff is not how it appears.
as someone who reads tarot, Misty's interpretation of it is very surface level. There really isn't any major arcana that's inherently good or bad, except maybe the devil or the tower, but even then you can find positive in it. If anything, the fool should be pretty promising for V- meaning the beginning of a new journey and optimism, and the High Priestess (assuming that's Hanako) doesn't look all that bad, either. High Priestess isn't evil, she encourages self-reflection and moral guidance, but also has secrecy. The High Priestess is not a selfish woman. Moon is mystery, but also self-deception, so at least they got that one right to an extent. They definitely botched some of the cards, should've used the court, or at least more reversed meanings, if they wanted something to more accurately reflect the story.
Or maybe they left it vague intentionally in case there's ever a sequel? tho I'd have to pull some saburo shit if I wanted to see that in my lifetime lmao
@@Gabi-ik4rt The purpose of her tarot isn't to take tarot seriously. It is to give some foreshadowing in a fun way. The meaning of tarot cards can also have shifted in the 57 years between today and the game.
404Dannyboy They don’t just use it for foreshadowing, it’s also used around the map for environmental storytelling- my favorite instance is using the tower, a card that represents chaos and complete upheaval of everyday life, at the bombing sit of Arasaka Tower. If they’re gonna include tarot, it’s so much better to have accurate meanings. There’s a lot of potential when it comes to tarot, and while yes I get the symbolism between major characters/monuments in the game, it feels a little half baked at points, which is unfortunate when just about every other part of the story is pretty satisfying and well-written. Probably just another corner that had to be cut 🤷♀️
Also, I don’t know why tarot would change meaning just cause it’s 2077...? Tarot has been around since the 1400s and the major arcana is one of the most well established parts of tarot. If they did change it, they’d have to explain it in canon and I haven’t seen anything like that in game.
Either way, still fun to analyze the symbolism, especially considering it’s something I’m passionate about! I hope they sell a deck with the art in-game 😁 cause while the figures don’t always reflect the card’s meaning, there’s so much more to be interpreted with art.
@@Gabi-ik4rt Tarot as a form of divination is much younger and the meanings there in have changed over time. Tarot is only as old as the 1400's as a gaming card deck disassociated with any modern mystical meanings.
404Dannyboy but still, why change the meaning of what we have right now and not inform the player? And the meanings have remained pretty universal for the past ~150 years, even more so if you’re looking at the major arcana used in game. The major arcana depicts the fool’s journey to enlightenment, starting with the fool and working your way all the way to the world, and that hasn’t seemed to change in universe. Pretty sure CDPR just bought into the fact that tarot is getting popular again and included it in their game (see: dragon age)
The hair physics doe, lol
XD
I 100% agree with Johnny. I've always lived by a certain code & thought it was important to do so. I have a belief system on how one should carry themselves & I have always stuck to that. I can't say the same for a lot of other ppl. Most ppl these days seem to only do what benefits them without a single thought for anyone else. That ain't my motto.
Man, you left all your friends so miserable, nor Judy nor Pan Am are happy :(
Unpopular opinion I guess, I despised Pan Am lol
@@juliet4093 yeah she's a complete bitch, constantly whining and crying, the game tries so hard to get you to simp for her childish shit personality.
You boys better not get married. You can't tell the difference between a good, loyal woman who will follow you to hell and back, and the average h o e s.
@@Alvarezpl first off I’m gender dysphoric as fuck, and into men, second what mate ? I just said I didn’t like Pan Am