The Sad Decline of the Madden NFL Series (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
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Madden NFL 21 is a bad game. But it's only the latest bad Madden. Over the last decade and a half, Madden has been spiraling out of control. Not only are older Madden titles like Madden 07 on the PlayStation 2 deeper games, but other titles from that era such as NFL GameDay and ESPN NFL 2K5 also do a lot of things better than Madden 21. This is part 1 of my ultimate Madden video. Part 2 will cover gameplay, bugs, and marketing, and is pretty juicy. Just need more time to edit it, hence why this video is now in 2 parts rather than one hour-long documentary. Enjoy and happy holidays from SOFTDRINKTV!
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Awesome. I love your content
I was pissed when EA lost the MLB contract, leaving us with MVP Baseball 2005 the best MLB game of all-time!!!
Hey man, I hear maddens license to be the only simulation game is up can you do a video on that and what you hope happens (if it is true if it’s not true just let me know but man I hope it’s true so we can get back to good simulation football)
do a review on pro football 98 please game is goated
I think since EA only wants to focus on micro transactions. Why can’t they just make downloadable content for just franchise mode to purchase like all the fun stuff that they used to have and that you talked about in this video. Or hell why not sell a separate madden game all together that is exclusively built around only the franchise/ owner mode.
"this video was completed after hundreds of hours of research recording and editing" so more effort was put into the video about madden than the actual game
You win the comment section
If you spent if you spent 10 hours a week then this would get completed in 10 weeks which is about 2 1/2 months. I’m no expert but I think a madden game takes longer then that...
@@smokeymfbrown6435 As for you, it only takes a little thinking to realize 100’s of hours actually is not all that long if your used to showing commitment, dunce capper hahaha.
I stopped buying Madden 4 years ago, thats my part of sticking it to EA.. I wish there was something more we could do.
@Ty R you’re a total jerk bro. If you spend your whole day tryna come up with a reply that makes you sound smart and feel good about yourself then you need some friends or some shi
The crowd leaving during a blowout is the most realistic thing you have during game play
Can you believe the nfl actually made it so EA has to keep the stadium full during the game no matter the score.
@@prestonmikel1 The heard that the NFL also insisted that the cardboard cutout fans during the lockdowns were real 😄
On NCAA 2005 I use to edit all Tennessee players to the lowest overall rating just so I can see their demise in an empty stadium on dynasty mode 🤣
NBA 2K doesn't seem to have an issue with fans leaving after a blow our games, that's being realistic as ⛑being knocked off of player in the 🎮 too! # Thanks for sharing this video too!
Agreed
this actually makes me really sad. i remember back in the early-mid 2000s talking with my brother about how advanced sports games would be 10-20 years down the line. Little did we know we were actually in the golden era...
I'm still playing them. I played a game in nfl 2k5 last night that if the world watched it would have been the most captivating football game ever watched.
@@TrevorHamberger tell me more about that game
@@dianegriffith7959 this will be short. There is so much to this. But I beat tom brady in a game 59-56 in Overtime. I was down by 28 at half time. there was 15 total turnovers in the game. I forced bradys team to have 8. I threw 7 picks. It would have been the 2nd highest scoring game of all time and the 2nd most turnovers in a single game in nfl history if it was real.
@@dianegriffith7959 I played a great one last night. I got down 21-7 when Travis Henry fumbled and they ran it back for a touchdown to go up 21-7. I ended up tying it up at half time 28-28 with a clutch 2 minute drive to tie the game. Got the ball at half and went up 35-28. It ended up being 42 to 42 in the end. I was forced to punt with about a minute left. They wound up driving down to score the field goal to beat me 45-42.
part of the reason I love this game is how easily you can lose to the computer. If I hadn't fumbled away that touchdown to them I would have easily won.
We exist to be exploited.
The youngsters today don't realize how good ps2 Madden was. Damn shame.
I know and its terrifying to think about my aunt has a ps2 who played horror and final fantasy while my xbox owning uncle had the action call of duty games n64 i had a good childhood but these newer madden games are just greed and laziness thanks ea.
2 madden fan boys last year said straight in my face madden 21 is better than “do do” madden 08.
And how much better the NFL football games were. From Joe Montana on the 16 bit systems through "NFL2k"... The players union and EA have an exclusive deal. Once that happened, EA stopped trying. The Madden games on the 16 bits to PS2 era was good, not as good as NFL, but good. With all the advances in technology, you would think that EA would be able to make a game where upper-body movement looks realistic on the field. They see no reason to without any competition. Monopolies are dumb.
The on the field defensive audibles were insane. You could quickly make a TON of last second adjustments and keep the offense COMPLETELY lost in what to expect.
I am actually a youngster (born in 2005) but was around when all of the older maddens were released. The first madden I got was madden 13 for the wii and that game was fun as it utilized the Wii’s motion controls i have the current madden games to just have fun with them I don’t care if people say that they are bad I just had fun with. Before the complete covid lockdown I discovered that my wii system could play GameCube games and I took that opportunity to buy the older madden games that came out when I was a kid and DAMN they are FUN! And now i kind of know why the newer madden games are bad
When you remove competition. This is what happens
correct
That's right, that way they can put out some B.S and not really face consequences 🤷🏿♂️😩
It's not just lack of competition. EA was convinced to be lazy by the idiot fans that keep buying the same game each year because they abso-damn-lutely have to, and for what? A roster update? Something that was solved with unofficial fan patches years ago? When you have fools paying full price each year for a copy&paste game, it's no wonder EA doesn't give a crap about quality and game content. Not defending EA but if their sports games sales suddenly went down 90% because everyone stopped buying them, they'd have to take notice. But that's not gonna happen because "gotta have my Madden/FIFA, bro!".
At this point, I wish Japanese game studio who love NFL can make better football game than EA, maybe Eyeshield 21 video game adaptation which is something that most NFL japan fanbase really hope for
@@abadenoughdude300 " EA was convinced to be lazy by the idiot fans that keep buying the same game each year because they abso-damn-lutely have to"
So much this.
Everyone jumps on the "competition" thing, ignoring the fact the market still did NOT have to accept what EA offered. They just did.
So instead of voting with their wallets, they complain about "no competition". Innovation happens when innovators innovate and when the market demands it. If people would rather a bad product than no product, the market will give them a bad product.
This man said 89 features? Get your popcorn ready, boys, we’re in for a good one
89th like
Features and graphics are 2 different things.. I stopped playing once we couldn't choose if you wanted to play without the analog sticks or not...
Found this thanks to Angry Joe, I don't care about sport, but I do about videogame history.
Ok?
That and how devastating a monopoly can be to the quality of a product.
Imagine if Bandai Naomi had monopoly over JRPG? How long ago the genre would have died?
@@peaber69 Very Well?
Same
I appreciate your appreciation
As a retro video game store owner, every single word you said in this video I’ve agreed with 100%. Games used to be packed with fun. Now the first question from development corporations is, “How do we add micro transactions?”
Why spend money on upgrading your store and keeping it clean when customers will still buy from you no matter what?
Wouldn't you rather use that money to give yourself and employees a bonus instead? Or maybe put it towards marketing?
It's just smart business for them, don't blame the company blame the consumer for supporting it.
@@BoleDaPole Blame both. Both are wrong.
@@BoleDaPole No, you don’t blame consumers in this case, because consumers just want a good NFL game and aren’t able to get it because EA and the NFL don’t allow competition. Also, the majority of the dorks maxing their parents credit cards on MUT and funding EA’s trash, are little kids who don’t know any better and never played an actual good football game. Blaming 13 year olds for being 13 year olds doesn’t make sense. EA and the NFL who provide them the exclusive license, that’s the problem.
@@amgbenz0664The fault is on both. You can blame the consumers why would you ever work harder on an Product when you earn even more cutting corners and putting in no effort. If I ran ea I would do the exact same things they are doing.
@@Indy_Bendy Whether or not it is a smart or profitable business decision for EA, is irrelevant to my comment. Blaming kids for being kids, makes zero sense. Even young adults nowadays, have no reference or bar to compare Madden to, so they couldn’t possibly know first hand how far behind the simulation is from where the competition would have had it. If you ate celery everyday since birth, then you wouldn’t know it tastes bad unless you had a burger or pizza to compare it to. Putting cocaine in coca cola was also a smart and profitable business decision, doesn’t make it right nor does it make the consumers the problem.
I loved how when your team was on the verge of going undefeated in a season your newspaper would start comparing you to the 72' Dolphins.. it was the little things that made us enjoy Madden of that era
💯💯💯💯
@@KillaSmit20789 And at the end of season of franchise mode if anyone broke any record it would show up if it was your player you could save it in your profile
I remember I got the passing record in my created team based on my highschool team he ended up passing for 5,465 yards and 55 tds and I built my team from the cupcake team ..fun times
This is a good example of why having a monopoly is bad.
And why free market capitalism is the best
@@BoleDaPole except for the market isn’t really free. THIS is a prime example of the “free market”. Exploit as much as possible, short term profits trump everything, this is what you get.
My mom passed away in 2005 and I got depressed so I dropped out of school and played Madden all day literally every day. I always regretted living that way until now. Today, I am SO glad I got to fully enjoy the experience during the hay days. I stopped buying Madden two years ago.
The removed feature make me so sad. Even minor stuff like the Sports radio show in Franchise mode really did a lot to help you become absorbed in the game.
I think something so frustrating about this problem isn't just the list of features removed or lost but also the AI and feel of the game. It is hard to explain without actually playing the older games, but if you go back and play a game like NCAA 06, the AI even on varsity difficulty just plays so well.
When you play madden these days it isn't just the bugs to me, or the lack of features, but how the gameplay is so bland and unsurprising. The CPU will never roll out of the pocket, dodge sacks, make a throw on the run, or use combinations of jukes and spins...
Playing against the CPU Reggie Bush and USC in NCAA 06 is wild. He will take direct snaps, throw halfback passes, they will run the option perfectly, stuff like that. In some of the older maddens (maybe madden 07?) Peyton Manning on the colts would change the play and audible frequently. Tom Brady in NFL 2k5 has signature throwing animations and drop backs. What I think it is personally were the sliders and tendencies they coded for specific players and teams, which they don't perfect or fine-tune anymore. Playing against Texas with Vince Young feels different than playing against Matt Leinart. You can also play against Army / Navy and they will run the option out of the wishbone, which is a ton of fun to play against. What it feels like to me in modern Madden is that it's just a "Stat Check" contest. Obviously, Mahomes completes more passes than Nick Mullens, but not for a good reason. It's not because Mahomes dances in the pocket, rolls out, and delivers a ball down the field, it's because his Accuracy is 99. Lol.
Gameplay is coming in part 2 of the video! It's a major part, maybe more important than the missing features
@@SOFTDRINKTV I'd really like to see madden switch back to a physics based engine rather than their modern animation based gameplay
The old games would not let you run the same play over and over. After the 2nd or 3rd time they were on it.
@@jugan170 the frostbite engine was designed for a shooting game. EA is so cheap that they used it for their football game. This is the company we're dealing with
Even as recently as NCAA Football 14 and Madden 16, last playable football games IMO...
Madden 05 mini camp was so addicting. I miss those days. Especially when you load it up and the players say “ea sports it’s in the game”!
Madden 05 and 06 were the best sports games in history. From the soundtrack to the gameplay madden got it perfect those years!
@@dukec2255 Madden 2007 was the last good madden, And I agree with you
Madden 07 is the best madden ever imo.
I played that a lot but I don't ever remember a player saying the EA slogan on any Ea game...
Tbh that's how I learned how to play. I coffin corner punts to this day lol
Note: A big one for me is I remember in Madden 05 when one of your players got injured in franchise mode they would be listed as day to day, questionable, or unable to play. If they were questionable and say if it was an ankle injury, you would see that player have that ankle wrapped during the game. Also some of his attributes would take a hit to begin the game reflecting that he wasn’t %100. Just realistic AF!
Yep I remember that too. At the time I didn't think much of it, but after playing the newer Maddens, I realized there were such incredible details in 05.
video's like this really bring into perspective how slimey EA was even nearly 20 years ago. They've never played nice with anyone, consumers, competition, they've always been scum.
Monopoly causing douche bags. How do the NFL PR people not notice how much Madden is universally hated
@@TheBlueCopperrrX Unfortunately, one simple answer: money
Well, in from the mid 1980s through to the early 1990s, they had a very different culture. Said culture has only gotten worse than Trip Hawkins left to found The 3DO Company, though.
@@redjed100 exactly what I was about to say, they've been scum for 20 years, but 10-20 years prior to that they were awesome.
spiderman< what new stuff is there in the new madden games? i have not played this for a couple of years now... is it all the same? the Espn nfl is a much better game, but EA have destroyed the sport gaming world with their monopoly!
Makes me laugh when the ambulance comes driving onto the field and knocks everyone over.
We better get a couple more ambulances out there
The fact they didnt put refs on the field shows EA not giving AF anymore. Lil details like that baffles me
Refs are part of the field..why takem out
Actually I think thats a good move. Don't get me wrong madden blows, but I don't need little imaginary officials out there getting in the way. I would like to see sports games move AWAY from television realism.
My dream football game would be basically a squad based shooter but a sports game. It would be like overwatch. You play 7v7 and you and your boys party up and there would be a roster of 20 some dudes to pick and everyone would just be a guy. You want Tommy to run a post...just say "yo Tommy run a post"...and then Tommy runs a post. I don't want fuggin sideline reporters in my game, or officials....or for fucks sake commentators. Just gimme music and player trash talk. Sports sim games are stale. Competitive arcade sports games like rocket league are the future. And the thing is is that "overwatch football" doesn't even require a license. They are all gonna be fictional dudes anyway. I think that even the madden haters have their heads up their asses and can't see that the game concept itself is stale.
Take hockey for example...Super Blood Hockey is the best hockey game to come out in years and its basically an indie game. Its a whole fresh concept of what a sports game can be, basically mixing jrpg elements in like its fire emblem.
The whole "I want it to be just like TV" attitude is the problem to me.
Damn I never even noticed that
@@davidrafferty2491 do you want a simulation football game or not? Refs are part of the sports authentication.
@@selvinmckay6768 so what...so are commercials. should the game have built in commercial breaks? I honestly hate seeing refs on the field, especially if they are tangible and can interfere with play. Its a video game, get rid of the geriatric old men wobbling about the field while insane, Goku like freaks are doing their thang. Bad calls are part of the game too...maybe every so often you should just get a shitty spot or a flimsy P.I. Maybe 1 out of every 1000 games in Cleveland the fans throw bottles on the field and the game ends early (ok that would actually be dope). The point is is that its impossible to simulate football...thats why you gotta go play it meat and potatoes style, IRL...so since its impossible to simulate, just make a game that feels like football but is actually fun to play. IMO NFL Blitz has yet to be topped because it understands the limitations of sports games and just decided to be a great video game instead of a mediocre attempt at "simulating" football. Like how much of a "simulation" is it if you can put up scores like 35-28 on 5 minute quarters. And thats been the case going back to Madden 98. play Madden (any year) on 15 minute quarters and tell me how its in any way a simulation.
Why does the NFL keep giving EA exclusive rights? Blame them too.
Money
They are still mad at 2k5 for making their game $20. EA and the NFL are that petty
spiderman< what new stuff is there in the new madden games? i have not played this for a couple of years now... is it all the same? the Espn nfl is a much better game, but EA have destroyed the sport gaming world with their monopoly!
money!
Angry Joe told me to check this video out, i'll be watching it once i'm done with his review. Any other Angry Army members here?
Yup. What's good brother?
@@badasahog Me too!
I've been with Angry Joe since 2016.
I tend to watch his negative videos above his positive ones, but I am a fan of his.
I was in the good old days and didn’t even realize it.
Facts smh didn’t have a clue
Man when I was younger all I could think of was how much better sports games would be in the future. Little did I know they peaked.
Facts ps2 maddens were great
Anyone watch the finale of THE OFFICE? "I wish you knew you were in the good ole days before you realized you left them."
ever talked to a old boy??? i think everybody looks at thier younger days as the " good ole days " 🤣
From 04-08 was a magical time for madden games. I feel lucky that I got to experience this period
Damn right.
The nineties were epic.
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol I miss mini camp that mode was so fun
It was so much fun.
This video is so damning that I think it honestly risks being taken down due to activity by EA itself. Very well done analysis of how far this series has fallen.
This is such a great video, just brought back some great memories. I have not bought a Madden game since 2013, and disappointment is an understatement with that game.
"Madden 08 is, however, my favorite Madden game of all time" Scott the Woz would be happy to hear that lol
its just a weird coincidence i think.
scott loves the gamecube and because madden 08 was that consoles last game, well
Man of culture
I literally have a ps2 and a Wii and I still play Madden 11 and Madden 08 and I believe that they are WAYYYYY better
Me too along with 25
@@johnkerry6312 Scott owns literally every version of Madden 08. From the Wii version to the PS2 version to the Mac version
I wish everyone who plays sports games could see this
That’s one thing that’s good about this video it’s output is more for all sports games although the main theme is about madden
I know madden is bad i still love it though
@@tyyourshoe1824 keep enjoying it
Most people who buy sports games know its terrible. I still have fun playing madden 21
@@SSx2000 have fun bro don’t let nobody stop ur enjoyment
Coming back to say RIP to John Madden. Sad to see him go while his namesake game is at its seemingly lowest point, but I hope when that exclusive contract ends Madden games will start becoming good.
The chance of another exclusive contract not being signed is highly unlikely. Too much money being made.
They're going to renew the exclusive license and put out fake reviews over and over til the end of time.
I want to give a HUGE thank you for making this video. So many people don't understand why Madden 21 is considered bad because they don't know what the series has lost. My first Madden game was Madden 12, and even I as a young child noticed that I had much more fun with 12 than newer titles. People would accuse me of having my opinion clouded by nostalgia, and hearing you say that it was the last good Madden game made me feel so good. I learned so many things about old madden games that I now want to try a game like 07. I think that there are many younger viewers like me here and this video teaches them about what a truly great NFL game is. So thank you and I'll be watching part 2 now! (and subscribing)
The consequences of having no competition
Competition is impossible. Look at the NBA, NBA 2K was better so way more people played that and NBA Live just had to give up. The market isn’t big enough for more than 1 game especially with how expensive video games are now a days.
@@heydudedolfan13 I am too. But people are ignoring the fact that video games cost way more now. And one game ill always be better than the other so the worse game will get less sales and will eventually get cancelled. Competition can't always happen.
@@deepvoicedude4749 let 2k entrer in football and we'll see again... The most important is to serve a real simulation to the fans not just hold the position to serve a bad game each year.
@@deepvoicedude4749 No they don't, back in the 90's games for the SNES where around $60-70. If you add inflation those games today would be over $100.
Sounds like wwe
Quick note: Madden 04 had cheerleaders. They would come on at half time and do a little dance. So that’s 90 removed features.
Id even start at 03 with Marshall Faulk on the cover!
because it's sexist to EA and feminist complained about it LOL what a fucking joke EA where is my cheerleaders team in today NFL!!
@@White_Tiger93 not really no, no feminists were complaining about this.
@@jacksonteller3973 It could be, the girls that were in the formula 1 (called pit kitties) all lost their jobs because of 'sexism'
@@deeznutz8320 why would feminists want to take jobs away from women? That makes zero sense, I think it's far more likely moral guardians like those groups that are always bitching about "teh gays on TV!" complained about them.
Brilliant video, I cannot even begin to imagine the countless hours you put into research and editing. Bravo!
This is such a good video. Thank you for creating this. I’m crying
Madden is such a bad game.. I mean ea has gone on such a down hill slope it’s just sad.. madden is a disgrace
@Alexander Torres ???
@Alexander Torres where's the lie?
Yeah meeting the president after you win the superbowl madden has the same superbowl celebrations since 17
Disgraced the name of John Madden... 😑
FOR ONE , ILL BET YOU CANT MAKE GRAPHICS LIKE THAT
I can't believe what video games turned post 2010. I remember when I was a child 2000s-2010 I was able to play video games day and night. NFL, NBA, Mortal Kombat, Smackdown vs Raw, Fight Night.. ect. Now it's only about the money. Dlc this, dlc that. Come on man, i bought the game!
OMMMGGG THANK YOUUUU like bro what’s up with this shit manee back in the days it used to be fun but now in days its about money
WHY do they make such trash game now??? they could be so good and so fun but they choose to make total filth. It is so damn sad
The industry does need to be regulated better. Releasing half finished games, releasing games that should never have been released at all, loot boxes, in app purchases, etc. Don’t know how they get away with it.
@Kristian Mijic Pokémon? Really? Really?
That's what I said I played NBA jams NBA Street voulme one through three Def jam fight for New York sly Cooper ratchet and clank jax and Dexter Spyro the dragon etc those games defined my childhood when we had good games like Madden 04-12 etc I'm so happy I got to enjoy good games like midnight club dub edition remix GTA San Andreas Vice City etc back when games took chances nowadays it's about the money and microtransactions games have gotten worse with better technology how is that even possible imagine if we had the technology we have now back then the games would be out of this world
Wow, thanks. I'm always annoyed when people mention madden being bad, or videos ranting about it, but they don't explain it. You did a great job helping me understand what the problems are with the current Madden. Not sure if there's a fix but who knows. If enough people see something like this and cause a fuss, maybe when the contract expires the NFL will look for a better partner.
Amazing video! Those of us that are products of the 80's and 90's can tell the difference between quality football titles and what we're playing now. Thanks for informing the younger generation!
Another feature missing from recent Maddens: a half decent soundtrack
facts bro
madden 18's was great and madden 19's was solid so idk what ur complaining about
@@pumpkingreg6673 I'm sure they are great if you like a certain type of music, but old Maddens used to have a nice mix of hip/hop and rock
@@daniel9487 yeah unfortunately i never got the opportunity to play those, maybe i was a bit biased lol. madden 16s was pretty epic with its mix
Yeah. Sure, I'm biased because I like rock and metal. But there used to be a variety of tracks, including hip/hop and rap.
This deserves millions of views. I wish the rest of the community would wake up and start realizing that Madden is a shell of what it once was and doesn’t deserve our money...
Share it then that’s what we gotta do so the madden community can open there eyes and so we can do something about this
Certainly not worth $70 unless they really plan on improving Madden 22 to make it more of a sim. That or at the very least they bring back create a team and expand the coaching staff,
It really has ... I had NFL2K5 and couldn't believe how good it was ... The best Madden I had was 08, you could create custom teams w/ logos & customize your own stadium ... Then boom they took everything away as the years went, it really has become a joke 😔
@Nick Dabbelt True ... But ppl should by now realize EA won't change anything if they still keep making money off this Trash ... I mean they didn't even improve anything on the next gen systems ... Madden on the PS4 & PS5 are the same game, the only thing separating them is the graphics!.
Great video! Grew up on the older Maddens and loved em for the amount of features and options they used to have. Modern Madden games are barely worth $10.
RIP John Madden. Thank you for some of the best memories from our childhood.
Retro bowl on the App Store has more content that madden 21😂😂😂
Such a good game!
Yes bro
I know I love that game
Ah, great game
It’s so true
The fact that all of these features have been left out of recent Madden games is not just an indictment of the series, but of video games as a whole.
without competition, this always happens. If youre job couldnt re replaced would you be any good?
It’s not just about lack of competition. as a whole, video games should have more possibilities than what we end up getting. You can get more out of a 10-15 year old game than a lot that have come out in the last couple of years.
It’s just that Madden is the most stark example of it.
Tbh, it's an issue with sports games in general, but especially Madden. At least in other genre of games, there have been huge jumps in one way or another. In Madden, there's been complete regression almost everywhere.
That's a bullshit statement. Video games are getting so many new features.
I get your drift but the problem with sports games is that you know a new one is coming next year lol so when something is so routine and annual, of course the quality is gonna drop off eventually. The call of duty series may be routine as well, but not sports game level of routine 😂🤷🏾♂️
Angry Joe sent me here and said this was worth my watch......he was absolutely right!! I didn't know about your channel, but you just earned a new sub, and I'm ringing that bell!!
I appreciate it!
Came here from Angry Joe
Yulp
"You just want to set the prices for hot dogs."
...yes, yes I do. You know why? You used to be able to...
I loved pretending to be a Mr.Krabs type owner
Dude you can do that in NBA2K’s GM mode LOL
@@reallifeshenanigans8471 which I do...
Drew Bledsoe holding his chest and limping around the field, now thats realism
u win bro
WOW !!!!!!!! To soon man
😂 jk it’s been like 20 years, but that was a huge hit
Death is a good band
The ambulance lol
Should of been Brady 😴
Liked and subscribed. The exclusivity contract that madden has with the NFL is a monopoly that is not talked enough about. Never stop making these. 🙏
hey I feel you brother..there was nothing like listening to those 04-07 soundtracks while using training camp to make the players on your favorite underdog squad formidable..I ALWAYS played my seasons WITHOUT just quitting and redoing games I was going to lose...I love having to play to make wildcard birth in week 17..sometimes I would even give control to the CPU to kick my field goals..not that I wasn't decent at madden field goals...just added that element of tension......CHEERS M8
TONY BRUNO SHOW WAS SOO LITT as a kid i would jus listen in franchise mode it was so entertaining sounded like real radio
"This...is an outrage"
This was so great.
I got a follow from Tony Bruno on Twitter last month!
@@TimWing23 He turned into a huge alt-right racist. got fired from his show for making disparaging comments against African-Americans in the NBA. his whole reputation is now ruined. now he just schills for alt-right politics on his Twitter account.
@@SA-on4pj Just admit you are an alt-righter who hates other races. Tony's always been a bigot, just he finally crossed the line. and I looked at his twitter, it's filled with alt-right Trump stuf..
Super facts
The simple fact that none of the players have tattoos is so unrealistic
facts i thought i was trippin when i saw tyreek hill with no tattoos😂
Nah, I know for sure that Odell had tattoos
has*
@@br_dley yeah but that's one person put of the hundreds that actually have tattoos
@@user-xu5rt5lb5o there's more than 1 person with tattoos
@SOFTDRINKTV this was well done sir! Hats off to you!
Interesting video. As an outsider looking in (not a football fan), I feel really bad for nfl fans who play madden. You guys definitely deserve better. Hopefully you guys will get a great football game one day that ea won’t be able to get their grubby lil hands on.
Antoine Winfield’s son is now in the NFL. Man I feel old lol
Wait until the sons of Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, and Chad Johnson come out in 3-5 years.
@@gatienlaurol5793 randy’s son got drafted thjs gear
Asante Samuel Jr is gonna be a top 50 pick this year
@@calebqueen2090
Crazy!
@@skylerdixon9408 he went undrafted then released
Great job as always bro!
Never stop making these.
Wait, which comment section am I in?
Softdrinks
When will the NFL realize that that will make significantly more money if they just give the rights to madden to a gaming company that ACTUALLY cares and will make it good?
You two deserve a place in valhalla for your work.
This should be pinned in your comments. The guy hits the nail on it's head
Jus watch Angry Joe shout you out and must say im more impressed with this video than i thought i would be. Great video.
Love the simcity music in the beginning lol
Your videos throughout these last 2 years inspired me to revisit football gaming throughout the years especially madden 2005 which was the most nostalgic for me as I played than one back in the day when it was new. And than I tried out 2k5 which I hadn't played before but collected in a lot I got on ebay (probably for cheap) some years prior and it was great. Its honestly mind boggling that there were more features back than. Wonder what madden 22 will even add now that franchise mode is getting a push from the community outcry. I bet it won't even be *half* of what was mentioned here.
The Tony Bruno clip brought back SO much nostalgia.
Imo it was “Ultimate Team”. After they drove everyone into lotto mechanics and not franchise mode it wasn’t for me anymore.
As a normal FIFA player, I told my friends that played madden all the time their game would be ruined by Ultimate Team. They didn't believe me then, but now...
Agreed.
But NBA2K still delivers a high quality franchise mode with MyTeam. EA is just lazy.
@@TheBlueDevilDuke But to be fair, hasn’t the 2k series kind of done the same thing year after year? I feel like they’re in danger of hitting a rut after all these years.
@@bushidoxld3719
Yup. Blame the twitch streamers..
Great Video dude. Me and a couple friends of mine spent so many hours playing franchise mode back in the day. It use to be so much fun selecting a team and building them up over the years. Risking that first OVR pick on a rookie QB and watching him blossum throughout the years. Or grinding a 35 year old RB that has lost a step but still has a nose for the endzone to beat Emmitt Smiths all time rushing record. It's sad that we will prolly never see a good franchise mode again. They could care less what the pure hearted Football fan want. They just want to fill their greedy pockets. Maybe one day a miracle will happen.
Really well made video mate!
As a 44 year-old who had been playing since the start, but finally gave up on Madden a few years ago, I can definitely bare witness to its horrific downward spiral.
You remember playing bo jackson in temco bowl
Im 38 and i totally agree. Remember how amazing those nfl 2k titles were. Those games were so much better and more fun. N it wasn't all abt microtransactions and money. Ahh the good old days 😄
I'm 43, and I feel the same. I remember John Madden Football on Sega lol. I stopped playing in Madden 07. I just started playing again to keep up with my younger nephew, but there is no trace of the older Maddens at all.
@@yodathehutt1557 Playing with Bo Jackson on Tecmo Bowl is what made me become a Raider fan from NY till this Day!!!!
NFL 2k5 and the 2 Tecmo Bowl games are the greatest football games ever!
The franchise mode was so dope in early madden. I used to export the players from the college football game to Madden
Spending hours and hours on the NCAA games so you can make overpowered players to draft with your madden team >>>>>>
@@johnnybruude9827 yup, played freshman thur senior year just to keep the stats right 😁
Me too, @Randy Eason
Thank you for doing this video. Good times used to be had.
Wonderful and fascinating expose, incredible job. I've been playing Madden since the early 90s.
imagine 2k21s graphics, gameplay, attention to detail, and career mode in a Madden game
They have became just as money hungry as ea, the graphics would be ok but not as good as you would think, I wouldn't mind sds taking over a madden game
@@b3gemini609 the are just as money hungry yes. The graphics wouldn’t be much better true. However, the core game is definitely better and it’s not even close. Even tho 2k loves to gouge their fan base they still offer a lot more in the game at higher quality.
@@xThat1Guyxx but the online would be unplayable. 2k servers and clipping issues are so much worse than madden. Try playing both games online and I guarantee you madden has better servers
@@succonastick oh I’m not saying that but in terms of franchise and career mode it’s not even close
@@succonastick EA severs ain’t good neither ☠️
Have Pat McAfee replace Bruno. I feel like he’s down to improve the game
That’d actually be sick
Loved the choice of the Sim city soundtrack for your video. Just a mention is all.
Angry Joe sent me
The last madden I bought was the year after they got exclusive....I'm an old head gamer and 2K was amazing. R.I.P. Sega Dreamcast
Damn bro your comment really hit him home.. Got me feeling all nostalgic an shit. Took me back to a simpler more happier time
@@royortega3721 fo real tho!!! Power Stone tournaments to see wherr/who you would play in 2K then our rules was "winner stays on"
Video games are getting worse and worse every year
@@Luxxotic Publishers I think figure their core base players are addicted to these games already so they direct their developers to cater these games to casual and newer and younger players and .have them focus on microtransactions . Its all to increase revenue for the shareholders.
2K is doing the same shit as Madden. So, it's not really a great alternative anymore.
Cheerleaders had physics😂. Damn EA as really went that low
Boob physics was a standard feature back then. Every self respecting game had to have it.
Boob physics or gtfo.
@@thkarape I believe the first game to have it was Dead or Alive for PS1.
I love you dude. Keep speaking the truth, man. I agree with you entirely! Love your work!
The Pregame/Postgame/Halftime Berman shows are the stuff of legend. How EA has not come close to replicating this in 15+ years is staggering.
NBA 2k games have a great half time and end time show in franchise mode even showing physical highlights from other games
@@thepubknight6144 NBA 2K and Football Manager is how you make a virtual sports season feel like you're in the moment. FIFA and Madden are dog shit.
spiderman< what new stuff is there in the new madden games? i have not played this for a couple of years now... is it all the same? the Espn nfl is a much better game, but EA have destroyed the sport gaming world with their monopoly!
I remember playing Madden 05 thinking: "on my gosh, this is so awesome that I will buy Madden every year for sure", I stopped in 2008.
Good year to stop. That was the last good Madden.
I still have Madden 05 it is just so scratched.
I remember when you used to be able to make whole teams, stadiums, plays, etc. So you could essentially make your own unique team and it was so fun. I remember putting in HOURS on madden 12 and 2k3
I would always put all my friends on the game and some would get pissed because I would make them terrible.
Madden 12 was my favorite madden game of all time.
I love the simcity music thanks for the nostalgic man
This guy could break the market. Good stuff man. Hope I'm not the only one proud to see this.
Those days of binge playing Madden 05 and 06. I will never forget them.
!!!
Why don’t you buy a ps2 and madden 05 again and play them all over again?
@@stevensmith8977 exactly what I did
@Wary Trout was goin to school in the 90s especially high school just like how it seemed in the movies from the 90s?
@Wary Trout yeah seems like your a generation a ahead of me i went to school all throughout the 2000s graduated in 2011, even in that time things were much better than today
Been playing madden sence madden 2001. The downfall is 100% due to ultimate team. Before that they acually worked on the game. Now they only want you to play ultimate team so they make everything else unplayable.
Mut fans hate to hear that but it is true
100% facts
Yeah I hate how Franchise is forgotten and they copy of of NBA with the player thing I stopped buying after 18 now I have Gamepass and it merged with EA so I get them for free I checked it and it was meh not as good as the oldies
Right there with you. Year one of the ultimate team packs, was the last year I Bought Madden. Played football games from the 80's on and there really was a development wall mid 2000's.
You could say that with not only Madden, and not only other EA Sports titles (looking at you, FIFA), but also any sports game in general like NBA 2K.
It seems the only series that hasn't let an Ultimate Team mode plague them to the death is MLB The Show. Sure they have an Ultimate Team mode, but building said Ultimate Team seems a bit easier there than in other titles.
Just watched “ANGRY JOE SHOW” review on Madden 21 and he mentioned your channel and this video to watch.
So got gotta say I’m not disappointed at all great video man and thanks for doing this.💪🏽
This is a great video! I miss exporting my Franchise team to play with the most
“They also had PHYSICS.”
-zooms in for emphasis-
This almost made me cry. No bs.
I was damned close too. We had amazing football games back in the day and greed and laziness has ruined that
Yes, this
This is so sad they have ruined madden. Madden 09 was my first madden ive ever played and I’ve loved it since
The music at the end of the video make it even sadder.
I know right... didn't realize how much these features would be missed
Bravo, sir. Bravo on this video! Man, did this take me back to the good ol' days! Lol
I hope this video reaches a million views. You deserve it man.
I spent so many hours in Superstar Mode.
The reverse camera perspective when you played defense in superstar mode was so great. You actually earned your INTs by proper coverage and breaks on the ball. So rewarding!
💯
I had Madden 08 for Nintendo GameCube. I created myself as an outside LB,was drafted by the Saints in the Superstar mode. One of the best games I ever played was the NFC Championship game against Chicago. I had an INT returned for a td and a tackle for a safety. Great times!
Facts and as a receiver the camera was actually on you and not on some awkward angle towards the QB!
Madden 07 I spent hours randomizing my parents to get a track star mother and HOF CB father. I wanted a fast CB who was great, and I played that player for 14 in-game years. I ended my career with 100+ INTs and went to the hall of fame
@@quentincampbell612 And thats part of the fun of these games. 99% of people will never be able to play in the NFL but dammit do I wanna put myself in the SB making a game winning play
Using classic Sim city music to diss an EA franchise... there's levels to this 👏
Was looking for someone who noticed lol. Man I played the shit out of SIM city. Had to cheat tho. Didn't have time to build the city all slow. Never could get that Mario statue.
See at least cities skylines came around to become a spritual sucessor, and unlike EA they actually encouraged modding and provided support.
I miss those sim city days
What song?
@@xThat1Guyxx sim city
He’s stripping EA down exposing they ass💯💯💯👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
This is a pretty great dive into the issues of Madden and I think it captures a lot of why a lot of gamers barely consider Madden games or most sports games in their own library. I love sports games. But I rarely buy them because of a lot of the reasons that are in this video. 2k5, I agree, is the best football game ever made. It was able to blend immersion, on the field play, and simulation in one game. I haven't picked up a sports game since 2019, and honestly I only played it for maybe a month before I was bored. When game design becomes all about meaningless action in the game that will be gone from one iteration to another, and features are constantly pruned, players lose interest. Same thing has been happening in WoW for the last 10 years, and the player base has dwindled. Amazing video my dude. Easy sub.
Oh my god the Tony Bruno Show!! Such a throwback I completely forgot about it
Same thing I said, like wtf I totally forgot about that
EA Sports: "It's in the GAME!"
... except refs.
...and a coin toss.
...and realistic physics.
...and a decent franchise mode.
...and create a team.
...a decent half time show.
It's all about the payroll
And so much more....
...and commentary
...and many more ands.
And cheerleaders.....
and actual sideline physics....
Angry Joe brought me here but your great video production and voice made we sub💯💯
Just got myself an Xbox Classic loaded up with Madden 02 through 09. Chilling and playing old Madden games while we start the new season.
Awesome the ps5 and the series x are powerful consoles but there something about the ps2 and xbox era that were golden.
@@adrianjuarez1162 - Going back and actually playing them, 02 & 03 are archaic. 04 is a step in the right direction, and it is 05-08 which became legends.
Comeback Player of the Year: 2k’s Arcade Football Game (whenever it comes out)
I forgot about that thing nobodys talked about it on so long
If 2k is smart they'll release it on pc. Modders would do wonders with it.
2K’s non simulation football game comes out next year and I can hardly wait, I could care less about the nfl license and rather have a game that’s fully customizable with all the bells and whistles (commentary, gameplay physics, presentation, pregame halftime and post game show etc...). 😎✌🏾
@@VHSRKIVES i hope they release both console and pc
@@Akumaa2000 well there's no physics since it a arcade game but I think it will be fun
I hated when they took off created teams. Me and my friends made a whole football league on Madden 12. They take away features and add nothing
Madden 12 on ps2 was great. My Cleveland Steamers took the league by storm
People like to create and make their own universe🤦♀️. Ea is so out of touch.
Created teams don't make EA money.
@@BoqPrecision well if they they announced it so many people would buy alot of players stopped buying the newer maddens because of how bad it is
Bro same here I loved when I could draft my own team and make a stadium,and jersey’s.I hated it when EA removed it.Madden 12 was my favorite Madden game if all time.
Excellent content. As a stock market analyst, it is sad to know just how successful the micro transaction shift was for the Madden franchise. Unless there is some form of regulation to control micro transactions, and limit how much a company can profit from those, this current video gaming trend will not cease. Even if TTWO can bring competition back to the market, they will push the same "ultimate team" product as Madden.
great stuff. Keep it up!
*You know a series is legendarily bad, when you can update people on how bad it is every couple of years.*
*Thats embarrassing and shameful for those behind the game.*
I can’t be the only one who couldn’t ever play against Peyton Manning in the old games. Those 15 20 seconds he’d change the play were so boring lol good times when too much realism is the issue!!
Fr and he always threw dots
I forgot about that. Man that drove me nuts
That’s why I hated playing against Indy
So true.
I learned to never adjust with your own audible or player movements so Manning would hike the ball a little sooner
You did a great job buddy. Keep up the good work. Ive been a madden fan since i was a kid. I had john madden football for sega genesis. I think it was 94 with the 49ers and montana on it or maybe it was just madden but even that game was amazing. I had tecmo bowl and suoer tecmo bowl for the very 1st Nintendo and bo jackson was a glitch. He was unstoppable