Quick note: I originally included clips from the "It's In The Game" documentary trailer to illustrate my points. However, every clip was hit with copyright claims despite being clear fair use for criticism. Rather fitting that a video about corporate control of narratives would face exactly that - corporate control. Instead, I'll show what Amazon wouldn't: critical footage of Madden from my own documentary.
Can we get timestamps of parts with you included in it? Interested to see how exactly did they show your clips but I wont bother watching the entirety of this crap
@@Joeyboots80 by the Lord’s work you mean complaining about a video game?? I want EA done with the NFL video game market as soon as possible, but saying it’s the Lord’s work is a bit of a reach don’t you think??? Yes f ea, but that’s stretch 😂.
I totally understand you signing off. You were optimistic at getting your content out there and really exposing EA especially with the videos they selected. At the same time, if it was on Amazon the chances of them actually being unbiased when you have TNF there and it being part of the NFL shield, was highly unlikely. It’s straight propaganda and to me this locks in EAs partnership with the NFL. We are gonna get the same product. Hopefully people have become smart enough to not believe the nonsense. Can we get one final push this year to ban or expose EA? That would be great. Lead the charge Softdrink.
One of NFL's biggest partners twisting your words and the words of other content creators. I already gave up on Madden and EA, but this will permanently keep me away. 👍
Yep super dirty, a reminder to always ask questions and to not assume… especially when it comes to million/billion$ company that wouldn’t care about one’s opinion but their own😂.
@@keyyyzus yeah, and what parent is going to tell their kid that he can’t get his favorite sport video game for Christmas or for his birthday?? Sure Madden is a really really bad game, but kids don’t give a rats *ss… it’s a video game
I didn't even watch that garbage, I thought of you instantly when I saw it advertised. Your deep knowledge of the Madden Franchise is the true retrospective the community needs.
I know it’s just a game at the end of the day, but I really appreciate the work you’re doing to bring these issues to light. I usually can’t be bothered to leave a comment on YT videos but I just wanted to say thank you for all you do. You speak for all of us who remember how good madden was and how we simply want those game experiences again with today’s tech. Thank you again
It's not enough to simply stop buying Madden. Notice they talk about the number of users at the shareholders meeting. We *may* need to stop buying and playing any Madden where playtime is tracked. Stop buying, stop playing, and you'll get their attention.
Tell that to the kids who played video games for their purpose… to have fun. Yes, we don’t have fun because we realize how bad of a game it is but kids do have fun believe it or not. Yes it’s a bad game, no people won’t stop buying nor playing it. The demographic isn’t just adults who b*tch about video games (me included)
I bought the MVP bundle when I bought CFB 25, just to have Madden for when I moved my RTG player to Madden. I decided when Madden came out to play it and give it a run. I played it for about 5 mins (about 1 offensive drive into starting a new franchise mode to be honest) and shut it off, removed it from my console, and went right back to CFB. Its depressing to see where Madden has come that it is completely unplayable for a casual who does ZERO MUT at all. Very frustrating. CFB is great though and a great fix for a football game, but would love another company to come make a fun NFL game.
CFB 25 isn't an exception it's going to go down the drain with Madden as well. A lot of ppl stopped playing it when 2k came out but seeing how 2k25 is shitty as well ppl went to Bo6 but it's trash as well, so I think we're screwed for sports gaming because TBH nerds never cared about sports to begin with.
I am genuinely surprised you hadn't reached the point of cynicism to be immediately suspicious of the documentary both you and angry joe. Not saying its a bad thing, I hate having the mindset I have but I would have presumed even taking videos of those titles it would be a fluff piece / paid advertising just because I think so little of the world and gaming media today (aside from those passionate grassroots folks such as yourself and Joe ofc)
The newest Madden is so good though. I love watching my linebackers and corners blow their assignment in man coverage for no reason. Or my wide receivers run routes mindlessly and ignore the defensive backfield depth (GO IN FRONT OF THEM!). It’s SO COOL having create a team back and NOT be able to edit the uniforms how I really want (and were available 15/20 years ago) and be super buggy. IT’S SO FREAKING GOOD Y’ALL.
LOL! Bro, NFL literally already has a deal with Amazon! Why would you think they'd jeopardize that?? You should never let anyone use your material without seeing the "final cut" of it first before it's released to the public!!
My feelings too. Even though they didn't criticise the game, that has to be huge external validation that one of the biggest company's out there noticed your videos. That you aren't just talking into a bubble and that people outside of your intended audience are listening.
We know he’s one of the best… but the way it’s shown to those who don’t watch this channel will now think negatively on him, because he’s “bashing” the game and he’s just “another complainer” online
Never fall for the trap i think it would be funny if you angry joe and a production company got together and made a Documentary that tells the real story of madden rather than this amazon bootlicking shit
3:54 exactly! Most people don’t understand how terrible Madden has become. I wish Amazon would’ve done the right thing with this documentary. Disappointing.
@@Ben-p3b ah yes compare one individual person to a billion dollar company that makes video games. The game is terrible. Madden 08 is better. 2K5, a game from 20 years ago, is better. You’ll stop hearing it when it gets better.
The fact that they used you like that tells me they acknowledge you as a threat. You're doing the right thing. I don't really have a horse in this race as I don't play very much in the way of sports games, but I so badly want you to succeed in your mission. Keep up the good work!
I don’t plan on watching the documentary but wow that’s shameful. Poor Angry Joe.. well I’m proud to be part of the niche and helped whatever little bit I could in the past. And on the bright side I’m glad you’re still around getting recognition
I audibly laughed when you said you thought Amazon (A&E) would expose Madden like they exposed Diddy, like what kind of skeletons do you think are in EAs closet.
This is why I will watch your videos in their entirety and interacts and share as often as I can. I appreciate your take on how far Madden has fallen. Everything you say is factual.
With all due respect, you really thought that Amazon would publish a documentary disparaging a NFL-licensed product while they have a working releationship and actively bid on hosting NFL games on their media platforms? Never trust a corporate entity, especially one as corrupt as the NFL. Regardless, it's cool to see that your vids are gettting this kind of attention after watching the channel for years now. Shame how they ended up being used to paint a false picture.
As you know, I'm a huge fan of football video games-been here since the start. I appreciate you, dude, and all the work you do to get EA away from this license. I will say that I did enjoy maybe only the aspects of the early days of development I got to see from the documentary, like seeing John’s scenes actually showing his development and also the early days and success Trip brought to it. That said, I totally agree with you and just want to say you have my vote and support for anything you need to continue to push the needle and open this license, bring
@SOFTDRINKTV its always soothing to hear someone share the same criticism of Madden today. The people that tell you to keep you're mouth shut are the same people that will settle for the same bland ass game and will waste there life on MUT. Its just sad how far this game has fallen all because "Money". I hate hearing "Stop buying the game thats how you fix it" but lets be real does that really fix the issue cause in reality most people much like myself will buy the game because we love football and love the NFL. You're videos have brought more awareness to the ongoing issues that Madden has had for the last several years and I'm thankful for that. Keep you're voice alive and don't stop for anyone
This is sickening, the audacity, the ignorance, the deception to do this is insane. This should open the NFL's eyes on EA, if the NFL didn't make it like this.
I watched the first episode and only the first episode. Just a few minutes in after seeing how they chopped up yours and Angry Joe's comments I knew I wasn't watching an unbiased look at the history of how Madden came to be, but rather as a propaganda piece to sell the latest Madden. I was getting so upset my wife actually told me I either had to shut up or turn it off lol. Every time they showed Clint's ugly face on that thing I wanted to throw a shoe at the TV. It was a disgusting piece and definitely did not show Madden as what it has become. The silver lining behind it is my daughter started asking questions about why I was so upset. Hopefully, in some weird inadvertent way, this documentary brings more awareness to how pooptastic the game is. Keep doing your thing, Brother!
Amazon and the NFL are never gonna bash each other and EA I believe is in bed with both companies. It does not shock me to see this happen and its a shame that essentially they fleeced you and your work. It sad to see how bad gaming companies have gotten. I dont know what the answer is to fixing the issue is either realistically.
At 10:06 when you mention diehard madden fans. There are no diehard madden fans even the youtubers who almost exclusively post madden based content hate madden. Bengal talked about how he's not having fun on madden 25 and we'll MMG literally got his 3 letters banned from madden for a while.
Bro, these videos are why you’re the GOAT of Madden lore and everything you’ve ever said in relation to Madden has been nothing but facts. Don’t let them rewrite history. Keep going.
What's funny is that there was actually sales data for NFL 2k5 and Madden 05 in the insomniac games leak from November 2004, and it showed that NFL 2k5 sold better then Madden on Xbox though not on PS2 at the time.
Kind of bums me out that one of the all time greatest coaches is still associated with this game. "Madden" and "sucks" are two words that should come nowhere near each other.
This is why I leave comments on channels like yours and others that cover NBA, NFL, MLB, and other games. They see these videos and post. This is why we have to speak with our wallets, that's the only thing they listen to nowadays. We have to force change. 2k, Sony, and EA make far too much money to abandon these games completely. They have shareholders and investors to answer on top of the leagues of each of the sports. One year in lost microtransaction revenue could change everything.
Well, let this be a learning experience to ask more in detail of what your footage is going to be used in for next time. It's understandable that you were excited to be included in a documentary and signed off immediately.
Did you really expect the same company that partnered with EA before to make a hit piece about them? Much less a major NFL partner that gave a vested interest in Madden doing good?
almost certainly not. they're absolutely not being defamed here in the slightest; their words are being used out of context (or really, without the entire context,) sure, but that is nowhere near the legal definition of defamation. as for being misled, how? someone reached out to them and asked "hey, can I use these videos for a documentary?" and they signed the contracts. I understand they didn't realize how they would be portrayed, but they were never lied to. lastly, you really think this guy can take on Amazon's lawyers in court? even if he won (which is highly unlikely,) the time, effort, money, etc. would be too big a cost.
I never really was too interested in watching the series. Now i'm torn between wanting to watch it so i can see how they "hype up" madden even though we all know about its downfall, and not wanting to support it by giving it a watch
Sounds like plagiarism. I’m sorry that they potentially used you for Madden instead of spiting them. I hope some good comes out of it for you and you at least get a big payday or you properly get your point out to an even larger audience. Congrats for at least making it to the doorstep.
Playing Madden 08 on the ps2 as I listen to this, I haven’t opened my wallet for Madden for a couple years now. It sucks that opting out is the best way to fight.
4:56 When you mentioned Angry Joe used in that way, that's when I knew: This "documentary" is 100% bootlickerMaterial! Nowhere for them to go but more downhill as they say....
This video made me truly hate EA way more than I already did. I hope that company goes under. It really needs to. It’s such a toxic and disingenuous company. Not even just with Madden. In literally every single big title they release, they have become more and more soulless and pathetically money hungry.
this corporate slop deserves to fail in every way, lying to creators about how their content will be used to suck off ea is ridiculous and totally unsurprising from a giant corporation like amazin
I will die on this hill with you. The last Madden I bought was 13, and I i was horrified. EA has made me a fan of baseball now a'days, thanks San Diego Studios.
I really liked the historical aspects of the docuseries, and really like how they showed the steps it takes to create this stuff. I’m not too keen on them bringing up stuff that has no real bearing on development, I’m not convinced on their humanization of the EA Devs, and I really don’t like how they glossed over everything that plagues modern EA besides “bugs” and player ratings.
I watched it all. It was good seeing the beginning of the game and how critical Madden was in every step. Clearly, he would hate the game they’ve made. It’s sad that they’re cashing in on his name. His son should not be backing them.
It's definitely not your fault you signed off on this. I respect you trying to push this message out there. The prime did with your content is absolutely ridiculous and just goes to show how little ea and the NFL actually care about their consumers. Keep pushing this out there and maybe we can finally get someone to listen! Love the work man!
You have absolutely every right to feel the way you do. They knew you would have said no if they explained what the video was actually about. It is a learning experience, and next time just ask what the documentary is about.
Commenting to help, but also because I'm playing Lostsoul's mod for ESPN 2k5 on my steam deck while watching. It has up to date rosters, and with that it's just better than madden in every way.
Quick note: I originally included clips from the "It's In The Game" documentary trailer to illustrate my points. However, every clip was hit with copyright claims despite being clear fair use for criticism. Rather fitting that a video about corporate control of narratives would face exactly that - corporate control. Instead, I'll show what Amazon wouldn't: critical footage of Madden from my own documentary.
Copyright ruins everything. What else is new? Definitely knew the documentary would be favourable bullshit since EA is directly involved with it.
Can we get timestamps of parts with you included in it? Interested to see how exactly did they show your clips but I wont bother watching the entirety of this crap
Angry Joe can get a little carried away sometimes.
@@jaykobanstaett1183I mean he's called angry Joe for a reason 😂.
@@jonpapi_2247 I know that.
I got a voice on radio and i'll use it. I'll tell people to boycott that documentary on a daily basis.
✊🏽
You're doing the lord's work sir, I salute you.
@@Joeyboots80 by the Lord’s work you mean complaining about a video game?? I want EA done with the NFL video game market as soon as possible, but saying it’s the Lord’s work is a bit of a reach don’t you think??? Yes f ea, but that’s stretch 😂.
Bash ea too
@@GOCAPSDMV anything that involves practices that aren’t honest is the devils work so…
Never release without payment or a script
Amazon really hit SDTV with the ultimate uno reverse card
“oh you think it’s not in the game? On the contrary! It IS in the game!!” 🗣️🔥
I totally understand you signing off. You were optimistic at getting your content out there and really exposing EA especially with the videos they selected.
At the same time, if it was on Amazon the chances of them actually being unbiased when you have TNF there and it being part of the NFL shield, was highly unlikely. It’s straight propaganda and to me this locks in EAs partnership with the NFL. We are gonna get the same product.
Hopefully people have become smart enough to not believe the nonsense. Can we get one final push this year to ban or expose EA? That would be great. Lead the charge Softdrink.
We really got EA propaganda 😭🙏
And before GTA 6
Before gta 6
Even Noam Chomsky wouldn't have predicted manufactured consent for Madden lol
Kim Jung Electronic Arts
One of NFL's biggest partners twisting your words and the words of other content creators. I already gave up on Madden and EA, but this will permanently keep me away. 👍
Yep super dirty, a reminder to always ask questions and to not assume… especially when it comes to million/billion$ company that wouldn’t care about one’s opinion but their own😂.
Madden probably has a 40% 8 - 12 year old customer base. And there's always newly turned 8 year olds every year that want a Madden title.
Nah most of the base is grown ass adults.
ITS UP TO THE PARENTS😂
@@Dietghostscp2107exactly aint no 8 year old got the money to compete with the whales on mommy’s credit card
@@Dietghostscp2107 I'm gonna need a study for that
@@keyyyzus yeah, and what parent is going to tell their kid that he can’t get his favorite sport video game for Christmas or for his birthday?? Sure Madden is a really really bad game, but kids don’t give a rats *ss… it’s a video game
I didn't even watch that garbage, I thought of you instantly when I saw it advertised. Your deep knowledge of the Madden Franchise is the true retrospective the community needs.
We got EA Sports propaganda before GTA VI
EA is the Scientology of video games. Change my mind
Don't let Nicholas Cage read this lmao.
@ or Tom Cruise
I don’t think Cage is a scientologist. At least, he’s not confirmed to be one like Tom Cruise is.
@@Americalovesme2008whos that
The documentary is a total lie.
I watched this series! I was stunned the series acknowledged Madden has declined since the mid 2000s.
I know it’s just a game at the end of the day, but I really appreciate the work you’re doing to bring these issues to light. I usually can’t be bothered to leave a comment on YT videos but I just wanted to say thank you for all you do. You speak for all of us who remember how good madden was and how we simply want those game experiences again with today’s tech. Thank you again
It's not enough to simply stop buying Madden. Notice they talk about the number of users at the shareholders meeting. We *may* need to stop buying and playing any Madden where playtime is tracked. Stop buying, stop playing, and you'll get their attention.
Agreed, that’s why I refuse to even download it on GamePass and I won’t be playing the new college game. EA gets zero dollars and eyes from me
@@joshuaallegretti9576ncaa is actually worth playing though.. madden is the problem. I’m more worried about the nfl sim license than the ncaa one
Tell that to the kids who played video games for their purpose… to have fun. Yes, we don’t have fun because we realize how bad of a game it is but kids do have fun believe it or not. Yes it’s a bad game, no people won’t stop buying nor playing it. The demographic isn’t just adults who b*tch about video games (me included)
@@GOCAPSDMV well the kids ain’t the ones paying $75 for garbage
The documentary was too scared to be negative or else EA would have shut them down 💀
No one is shutting down Jeff Bezos’s company😂😂
That's a shame!
You got used in the worst way possible.
I bought the MVP bundle when I bought CFB 25, just to have Madden for when I moved my RTG player to Madden. I decided when Madden came out to play it and give it a run. I played it for about 5 mins (about 1 offensive drive into starting a new franchise mode to be honest) and shut it off, removed it from my console, and went right back to CFB. Its depressing to see where Madden has come that it is completely unplayable for a casual who does ZERO MUT at all. Very frustrating. CFB is great though and a great fix for a football game, but would love another company to come make a fun NFL game.
Well, maybe you should try NCAA 06 or 14. In my opinion, those games are way better than 25. Better AI, better gameplay, better everything.
CFB 25 isn't an exception it's going to go down the drain with Madden as well. A lot of ppl stopped playing it when 2k came out but seeing how 2k25 is shitty as well ppl went to Bo6 but it's trash as well, so I think we're screwed for sports gaming because TBH nerds never cared about sports to begin with.
I am genuinely surprised you hadn't reached the point of cynicism to be immediately suspicious of the documentary both you and angry joe. Not saying its a bad thing, I hate having the mindset I have but I would have presumed even taking videos of those titles it would be a fluff piece / paid advertising just because I think so little of the world and gaming media today (aside from those passionate grassroots folks such as yourself and Joe ofc)
Bro got bamboozled
Got hoodwinked fr
Led astray…flat out deceived !!
The newest Madden is so good though. I love watching my linebackers and corners blow their assignment in man coverage for no reason. Or my wide receivers run routes mindlessly and ignore the defensive backfield depth (GO IN FRONT OF THEM!). It’s SO COOL having create a team back and NOT be able to edit the uniforms how I really want (and were available 15/20 years ago) and be super buggy.
IT’S SO FREAKING GOOD Y’ALL.
Aye but don't worry it'll get patched in the next update and will be broken again on the release date of Madden 26 😂.
LOL! Bro, NFL literally already has a deal with Amazon! Why would you think they'd jeopardize that?? You should never let anyone use your material without seeing the "final cut" of it first before it's released to the public!!
Thank you sir, this is the video that I've been waiting for! Two enthusiastic thumbs up you are the real MVP for this one as usual!
Even though you didn’t get what you expected it’s still a big honor to get featured in a documentary you one of the best content creators out there 💯
My feelings too. Even though they didn't criticise the game, that has to be huge external validation that one of the biggest company's out there noticed your videos. That you aren't just talking into a bubble and that people outside of your intended audience are listening.
We know he’s one of the best… but the way it’s shown to those who don’t watch this channel will now think negatively on him, because he’s “bashing” the game and he’s just “another complainer” online
wish this video gets millions of views seriously
Never fall for the trap
i think it would be funny if you angry joe and a production company got together and made a Documentary that tells the real story of madden rather than this amazon bootlicking shit
3:54 exactly! Most people don’t understand how terrible Madden has become. I wish Amazon would’ve done the right thing with this documentary. Disappointing.
I agree I wish Amazon would’ve done the right thing too. The thing is most average people could care less about a *video* game!
Oh madden is terrible huh? Why dont you make a better fucking game? I am SICK of people saying this
@@Ben-p3b ah yes compare one individual person to a billion dollar company that makes video games. The game is terrible. Madden 08 is better. 2K5, a game from 20 years ago, is better. You’ll stop hearing it when it gets better.
The fact that they used you like that tells me they acknowledge you as a threat. You're doing the right thing. I don't really have a horse in this race as I don't play very much in the way of sports games, but I so badly want you to succeed in your mission. Keep up the good work!
Its the Madden Industrial Complex at work in that documentary. Thanks for giving us your rebuttal.
The second I saw that thumbnail on Prime I knew it was nothing but a Madden EA puff piece. I can't wait to see what Angry Joe does lol
This is why I don’t buy EA games anymore. Haven’t since 2018. Really not that hard guys and it’s the only thing that’s gonna change anything.
Rule of thumb if it’s ever corporate it’s most likely a bunch of yes man mentality and do what we tell you don’t be critical
I don’t plan on watching the documentary but wow that’s shameful. Poor Angry Joe.. well I’m proud to be part of the niche and helped whatever little bit I could in the past. And on the bright side I’m glad you’re still around getting recognition
I audibly laughed when you said you thought Amazon (A&E) would expose Madden like they exposed Diddy, like what kind of skeletons do you think are in EAs closet.
Im sorry that happened man. They really fucked you over. Keep going though man, dont let this discourage you!
This just shows they know they are taking advantage of ppl who don’t know they are getting ripped off
shouldn't have signed that press release...
This is why I will watch your videos in their entirety and interacts and share as often as I can. I appreciate your take on how far Madden has fallen. Everything you say is factual.
With all due respect, you really thought that Amazon would publish a documentary disparaging a NFL-licensed product while they have a working releationship and actively bid on hosting NFL games on their media platforms? Never trust a corporate entity, especially one as corrupt as the NFL.
Regardless, it's cool to see that your vids are gettting this kind of attention after watching the channel for years now. Shame how they ended up being used to paint a false picture.
Fuck this current state of Madden a fall from grace indeed not giving them money until something changes keep doing your thing SoftDrink
As you know, I'm a huge fan of football video games-been here since the start. I appreciate you, dude, and all the work you do to get EA away from this license. I will say that I did enjoy maybe only the aspects of the early days of development I got to see from the documentary, like seeing John’s scenes actually showing his development and also the early days and success Trip brought to it. That said, I totally agree with you and just want to say you have my vote and support for anything you need to continue to push the needle and open this license, bring
@SOFTDRINKTV its always soothing to hear someone share the same criticism of Madden today. The people that tell you to keep you're mouth shut are the same people that will settle for the same bland ass game and will waste there life on MUT. Its just sad how far this game has fallen all because "Money". I hate hearing "Stop buying the game thats how you fix it" but lets be real does that really fix the issue cause in reality most people much like myself will buy the game because we love football and love the NFL. You're videos have brought more awareness to the ongoing issues that Madden has had for the last several years and I'm thankful for that. Keep you're voice alive and don't stop for anyone
They really did the Simpsons' Rock Bottom editing. Jesus, that's pathetic.
I need angry Joe to make a video on this now
Just thumbs downed the documentary. It's not much but it's honest work
The documentary is pure propaganda.
This is sickening, the audacity, the ignorance, the deception to do this is insane. This should open the NFL's eyes on EA, if the NFL didn't make it like this.
You shouldn't have been so naive but so happy to see you grow as a channel to a point you got EA's jimmies rustle.
WE GOT EA PROPAGANDA BEFORE GTA VI!!!!!!🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
I watched the first episode and only the first episode. Just a few minutes in after seeing how they chopped up yours and Angry Joe's comments I knew I wasn't watching an unbiased look at the history of how Madden came to be, but rather as a propaganda piece to sell the latest Madden. I was getting so upset my wife actually told me I either had to shut up or turn it off lol. Every time they showed Clint's ugly face on that thing I wanted to throw a shoe at the TV. It was a disgusting piece and definitely did not show Madden as what it has become. The silver lining behind it is my daughter started asking questions about why I was so upset. Hopefully, in some weird inadvertent way, this documentary brings more awareness to how pooptastic the game is. Keep doing your thing, Brother!
I have been waiting for your response
Amazon and the NFL are never gonna bash each other and EA I believe is in bed with both companies. It does not shock me to see this happen and its a shame that essentially they fleeced you and your work.
It sad to see how bad gaming companies have gotten. I dont know what the answer is to fixing the issue is either realistically.
That was disgusting of A&E, EA, and Amazon.
Bro, that's not cool. They straight up LIED to you! I'm surprised you're not gonna sue them for this!
1:17 this is exactly what Activision would’ve done to Nero if he signed and let them use his clips for call of duty
At 10:06 when you mention diehard madden fans. There are no diehard madden fans even the youtubers who almost exclusively post madden based content hate madden. Bengal talked about how he's not having fun on madden 25 and we'll MMG literally got his 3 letters banned from madden for a while.
Curious who the target audience is, cause if you play madden you know the entire documentary is bs
Yeah. I ended up skipping the modern stuff after first episode. It was pretty clear where that part was going.
I was going to watch for the nostalgia hit but now I'm not so sure.
Bro, these videos are why you’re the GOAT of Madden lore and everything you’ve ever said in relation to Madden has been nothing but facts. Don’t let them rewrite history. Keep going.
Need a hashtag to start for the nfl to notice. To not sign this deal
What's funny is that there was actually sales data for NFL 2k5 and Madden 05 in the insomniac games leak from November 2004, and it showed that NFL 2k5 sold better then Madden on Xbox though not on PS2 at the time.
13:26 if i make it to the nfl thats definitely going to be my celebration.
I was and wasn’t surprised how bad it was. They never once addressed the issues and criticism of the horrible game they keep putting out.
Know it’s gonna be a great day when softdrinkTv post
The 'state propaganda' cut in was superb.
Should have asked them exactly what it was going to be used for.
We need to get this vid out and show what ea really is
They should rename this “documentary”, “The Circlejerking and Legacy of Failure of EA”.
EA propaganda before GTA 6
EA lied to us
All that documentary showed me was that the EA can’t handle competition
Kind of bums me out that one of the all time greatest coaches is still associated with this game. "Madden" and "sucks" are two words that should come nowhere near each other.
This is why I leave comments on channels like yours and others that cover NBA, NFL, MLB, and other games. They see these videos and post. This is why we have to speak with our wallets, that's the only thing they listen to nowadays. We have to force change. 2k, Sony, and EA make far too much money to abandon these games completely. They have shareholders and investors to answer on top of the leagues of each of the sports. One year in lost microtransaction revenue could change everything.
I tried watching the series but couldn't stand the way it presented and turned it off
Also my opinion but Madden '08 on PS2 was the last great release and I've played Madden since 1990.
Out of touch, wack and failed to be fair
Bars 🔥
Well, let this be a learning experience to ask more in detail of what your footage is going to be used in for next time. It's understandable that you were excited to be included in a documentary and signed off immediately.
Did you really expect the same company that partnered with EA before to make a hit piece about them? Much less a major NFL partner that gave a vested interest in Madden doing good?
Can you and Joe possibly sue for being mislead and possibly defamation?
I hope they can. This is insanely fucked up.
@@BigBoiUltra3741 The producer sounds like a scoundrel who was too lazy to do work on his own and fluffed these guys up.
almost certainly not. they're absolutely not being defamed here in the slightest; their words are being used out of context (or really, without the entire context,) sure, but that is nowhere near the legal definition of defamation. as for being misled, how? someone reached out to them and asked "hey, can I use these videos for a documentary?" and they signed the contracts. I understand they didn't realize how they would be portrayed, but they were never lied to. lastly, you really think this guy can take on Amazon's lawyers in court? even if he won (which is highly unlikely,) the time, effort, money, etc. would be too big a cost.
If he wants to lose everything sure
I never really was too interested in watching the series. Now i'm torn between wanting to watch it so i can see how they "hype up" madden even though we all know about its downfall, and not wanting to support it by giving it a watch
Sounds like plagiarism. I’m sorry that they potentially used you for Madden instead of spiting them. I hope some good comes out of it for you and you at least get a big payday or you properly get your point out to an even larger audience. Congrats for at least making it to the doorstep.
it’s not plagiarism because they received permission, but it’s definitely fucked up the way they went about receiving permission
Keep at it bro! I’m in my thirties and haven’t played Madden in years because of how garbage it is. Can’t wait till we have competition again!
Playing Madden 08 on the ps2 as I listen to this, I haven’t opened my wallet for Madden for a couple years now. It sucks that opting out is the best way to fight.
4:56 When you mentioned Angry Joe used in that way, that's when I knew:
This "documentary" is 100% bootlickerMaterial! Nowhere for them to go but more downhill as they say....
This video made me truly hate EA way more than I already did. I hope that company goes under. It really needs to. It’s such a toxic and disingenuous company. Not even just with Madden. In literally every single big title they release, they have become more and more soulless and pathetically money hungry.
Madden has lost my money long ago, after watching this I'm never going back
this corporate slop deserves to fail in every way, lying to creators about how their content will be used to suck off ea is ridiculous and totally unsurprising from a giant corporation like amazin
Uh oh.
Trouble
I watch the first two episodes.
I will not watch the rest.
After watching what you said, I have been deceived.
Please make an IMDB page and leave an accurate review, I have a feeling EA will do everything to make this doc positively received
Did ea just become a shitty politician that has to make a self promotion doc to look like it’s popular to the public. wtf is this world
I will die on this hill with you. The last Madden I bought was 13, and I i was horrified. EA has made me a fan of baseball now a'days, thanks San Diego Studios.
I really liked the historical aspects of the docuseries, and really like how they showed the steps it takes to create this stuff. I’m not too keen on them bringing up stuff that has no real bearing on development, I’m not convinced on their humanization of the EA Devs, and I really don’t like how they glossed over everything that plagues modern EA besides “bugs” and player ratings.
so funny that dont mention mut. thats what i think single handedly ruined the fucking game forever
This is absurd! I was dumb for thinking Amazon would be on our side
I watched it all. It was good seeing the beginning of the game and how critical Madden was in every step. Clearly, he would hate the game they’ve made. It’s sad that they’re cashing in on his name. His son should not be backing them.
It's definitely not your fault you signed off on this. I respect you trying to push this message out there. The prime did with your content is absolutely ridiculous and just goes to show how little ea and the NFL actually care about their consumers. Keep pushing this out there and maybe we can finally get someone to listen! Love the work man!
Proud to say I have not and I will not buy Madden 25
You do you 😂😂 the game isnt bad people like SDTV and ryan have no idea
@ I understand, you just weren’t playing 20 years ago and don’t know any better. If the game was $30 I wouldn’t have a damn thing to say
Lesson learned: ask questions before agreeing to things
You have absolutely every right to feel the way you do. They knew you would have said no if they explained what the video was actually about. It is a learning experience, and next time just ask what the documentary is about.
EA spent more money on this documentary than madden
Your Next video should be on What we can expect from a Modern NFL 2K game since 2k has drastically changed over the past 20+ years
I'm commenting for reach, this video needs to go viral for the sake of Madden
Commenting to help, but also because I'm playing Lostsoul's mod for ESPN 2k5 on my steam deck while watching. It has up to date rosters, and with that it's just better than madden in every way.