The Fall of NHL 2K - What Happened?
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- The rise and fall of the NHL 2K series.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction
03:00 NHL 2K-2K5
10:22 NHL 2K6-2K8
13:40 The Fall
16:35 Legacy and Impact
Foewi - Close and Lakey Inspired music used. Stock footage from Videvo
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NHL 2K10 was the deepest I ever went into a franchise mode in any sports game and hockey isn’t even my favorite sport
Fax I believe I once went 10 years deep
@@jc755. which team and how many cups lol
Have you ever played NHL 2K10 for the PS2? That game has everything a Hockey fan could want, Deep Franchise Mode, Create a Team, with Colors, City and Logo options, Realistic Player Behavior, Unlockables, Classic Teams and Classic Sweaters, The Fighting is realistic, defensive positioning, I could go on and on, but you get the Point. I still play my PS2 offering to this day.
@@davidaulds7031 interesting
Same 🤫
It's still amazing that the PS2/Xbox generation still has the greatest sports games.
Amazing or sad?
@@mylitcig1116 I guess more sad. This generation laid the ground work for great sports games for the future & yet the developers got rid of the features to add junk micro transactions or to bring them back as new features.
Truth … Sports games were great back then, that’s why I still have my original Xbox ! Maddens we’re great also back then
Yes and on those games, throwback jerseys and legends were not blocked by a pay wall. DLC should've never been things that were available free on previous year's games. I really started to resent gaming during the 360 years.
@@kwall337 free money > good reviews
This series needs to comeback
I loved 2ks NHL game, and I miss the attention to detail sports games used to have...sigh
Tell me what nhl 2022 doesn’t have?? Ill be waiting
@@Tampafan33 can you brake the glass?
@@Tampafan33 get off their damn nuts, I don't need to tell you because if you watched the video you wouldn't have said that
@@ANDRESLOPEZ-kj4tu lmfao I watched the video and he literally lied at the end crybaby. All the shit he said wasn't in it is in 2021 dumb fuck bahahaha
@@themaskeddefender9021 you can't even brake the glass irl anymore fucking moron. Tell me you don't watch hockey without telling me you don't bahahaha
I remember NHL 2K6 being an absolute banger. I loved the ESPN style format. One of my all time favorite NHL games.
Then you don’t remember 2K6, because ESPN no longer had their broadcast package in the game.
@@JaredtheRabbit Then it had a similar format to ESPN. It's been well over 15 years now since I played it lol give me a break.
@@j.peters1222 might be 2k5 you're thinking of.. I remember loving the NFL 2K5, there were mini games, a crib with a trophy room. Was jus a dope game
*edit
After watching more of the video I'm glad he brought the crib feature up and the mini games lol
@@acanadianeh8344 you're probably right lol either way it was fun
NHL 2K5 was so deep with unlock-able teams and jerseys, 2002-6 and 2009-11 for EA and 2k5/6 were elite
I remember getting NHL 2k10 during Halloween because Ove lived near us and with him being the cover star had like thousands of those games and instead of candy he gave us copies of both NHL and NBA 2k10. Looking back on it, it's pretty neat and wonder if Kobe did the same thing or if cover athletes do that shit today?
damn, he's like my hero bro that's so cool
I loved 2K3-2K5. I really miss the days of competition in the sports game genre. Everyone loses when there is only one developer putting out game. It´s a sad reality with the increasing costs of game development, specially in sports where there is such a demand for high quality graphics and life-like players with the correct face on them. Hoping we will see indie developers putting out high quality hockey games in the future, like football (gridiron, not soccer) games have started getting. We wont see a NHL license but we just might survive that. Competition would do us all good.
So that's the main reason we don't have competition in the 4 major sports? Costs? That's just awful with all the talent out there.
I also hear MLB itself ordered cross play for multiple consoles. Just sad.
2k5 was my favorite Gen of sport games. All of them were good
I don’t think competition would do any good sadly. If indie developers were to make unlicensed games, they wouldn’t do much of a dent to force EA or 2K to change anything with their games. If 2K and EA were competing against each other…well just look at the recent times when NBA Live made a comeback. Both companies made shitty series. They know they’re going to make money regardless of the quality.
@@mr198221 2k hs is a indie mod/game
Tougie24 (as seen at 17:18) is such a fan of NHL2K10 that he did 2 full 82-game season series on his channel. 1st with Philadelphia where he traded for Kovalchuk and renamed him Philya Kovaldoop and the 2nd which is currently ongoing on Twogie24 is an Ottawa series where the goal is to get Alfredsson and Heatley a Stanley Cup
NHL 2K2 was the last dreamcast game in north america, the last one in japan released in 2007.
I remember playing 2K10 for hours mainly because of it's gameplay
So glad to see this series getting some love. I played the hell out of NHL2K3 and ESPN NHL Hockey. Great games. Sadly, I dropped out of the series before 2K8, so I've never played that or later ones. Thank you for doing this vid. There's so little content on these games it's good to see this vid.
2k5 was so fun , I played a demo of it on a PlayStation magazine demo disc and made me a fan of hockey . In middle school I would play this game at the boys and girls club with a staff member and kept beating him it was such good times
The Nostalgia.😢 Thanks for sharing your story man
Still have my 2 hockey games from 2K on Dreamcast and they are my favorite hockey games to play alongside NHL HITZ. 🥰
I loved the nhl 2k games as a kid. My first game for the Wii was NHL 2k9. It had everything, even more features on the wii compared to the 360/ps3 version. The one things that I also liked were the goal horns since nhl 2k4 had the actual goal horns of most of the NHL teams and at that it was amazing. I wish they had more games afterwards.
Ah yes the 2k documentary I was waiting for
Facts
5:45 My dream of being on a SDTV vid has finally come true! Thank you so much you don’t know how much this means to me
Back then I preferred EA over 2K but I still bought 2K because I was such an NHL video game fanatic. Everyone as a kid was looking forward to the future with future powerful consoles and how amazing “real life” hockey would be…man how disappointed my young self would be looking at the market.
Thank you for covering the NHL 2K series. I love your videos, they have a documentary style that I can’t get enough of. Would you ever consider covering the NHL Hitz series?
Hitz 2002 all day!!
same.
The sports games on Dreamcast were way ahead of its time.
I know that this video is about NHL 2k but seeing NHL Slapshot brought back some memories. NHL Slapshot for wii was a very interesting game to me when I played it as a kid, I think it would make for an interesting video.
I have no doubt the realism of an NHL 2k game in 2022 would be insane.... could you imagine the atmosphere they would've presented for playoff games.
I remember playing NHL 2k10 and having a blast.... A kid who lived in Cleveland Ohio, the only sports I ever played being Baseball, Football, and Basketball and my only knowledge of being on ice was going to my local skating rink around winter
I HAD A GODDAMN BLAST PLAYING A HOCKEY GAME...
Played 2k10 a few years ago after getting bored of the modern EA games and immediately had a CPU pull the Forsberg on me. It's insane what these games had back then
I have 2K5 on my OG Xbox and I will play it from time to time. Never gets old!!!!
2K's goaltending was a little bit TOO good. I remember playing against a friend, and the game only being 2-1 (Overtime) despite us both having over 70 shots...
It’s a battle of extremes then, nowadays in the EA games you’ll be lucky if a goalie will stop even half the shots on goal.
@@brendan9868 yeah i hate that the "best" goalie has a save% of 900 or just over and most have like 880 at the end of a season and the best gaa is like 2.50, its so unrealistic xd. i loved when goalies had realistic stats
@@softpianomusic7773 did a franchise once where a goalie had a .903 save and won the Vezina, shits broken these days lol
@@brendan9868 ...what? I haven't played NHL 22 in a hot minute but I always feel like there are 3-4 goalies a year with a .910+ SV%. I've been playing NHL 12 a bit recently and that game genuinely does have a goalie problem where guys like Roberto Luongo will win 45 games in a season with a .888 SV% but I've felt as if the recent games do alright with at least simulated goalie realism.
@@turomilen2944 if you're playing the game. Its a different story. Its better to have 2-1 games. Than 12-0 gamea even on superstar.
Man, I remember having 21-19 scorelines with my buddy for the 2K games. Defense was optional and the old ESPN commentary was an absolute hoot. Thanks for the rush of nostalgia with this video!
I don't think I ever played 2K8 but I wish I did. The gameplay is great, it looks very immersive. The rink size and camera is perfect.
It sucks EA don't have any competition anymore.
I loved playing 2k6 back in the day because you could yeet people over the bench haha
Love your content bro. You deserve so many more subs for as much effort you put in
Intro is a banger oh my
Great video. Would love to see you tackle the Winning Eleven/PES Soccer series. I still think WE6 is the best soccer game ever made.
For me Pro Evo 5 is the best football game ever made. I can't tell you exactly why it's better than 6 - it's just feels better in dribble.
at :59 seconds… that beat is 🔥. Great content and good music 👌🏾 keep it up softdrinksTV
9:18, i agree, what you said about nhl 2k5, it also features dream team mode, where you can hit the ice with the nhl elite as you take on a ladder of all star teams hand selected by hockey finest including, martin st louis, mats sundin, marty turco, brendan shanahan and more, party mode, you play the battle mode, and playthrough 15 multi player mini games, challenges all in the name of becoming the king of the rink, there also arcade style, elimination mode, pond hockey, mini rink, intense contact controls, 3rd person fighting engine, bigger checks, new contact moves, heritage classic, it had a ton of depth, its a insane jump from nhl 2k4, this is one of the greatest nhl ice hockey video game, ever made, i would like to see espn nhl 2k5, retrospective.
NHL 2k5 was amazing. Still longing for that skills competition to come back. Loved 2k10 as well. 2k really had the presentation nailed!
I was waiting for this video for so long. Thank you!
Awesome video bro, love watching these rise and fall of games
Your intros are so freaking cool man. Great job!
How did you forget in nhl 2k6 The commentary in franchise mode would do fan mail questions when idling from a pause the game just like the real life hockey night in Canada broadcasters would do I thought that was an insane detail growing up And personally I think NHL 2K six had a great commentary as it Had the hockey night in Canada crew
I would love to see 2K make hockey games again. What they did to their NBA games I would love to see them do that with their NHL Games.
Fantastic video, thank you for doing such a deep dive into this. It's crazy to see how much a "rivalry" can produce such great games by wanting to win over the masses. I can only imagine what kind of features the games would have nowadays if both companies had a loyal fanbase. Guarantee HUT would be a lot lower on the priority list, that's for sure!
Also, I still can't believe that the crowds in 2K games are better optimized than NHL 22 on PS5. Absolutely nuts.
NHL 04 had the best crowds in hockey game history and I don’t think it’s close… chanting the team’s name/nickname, chanting “we want the cup” in the finals, being loud in general, etc
Nice to see you here J1mmy, I also wish that we could’ve seen what we could’ve been playing with these two companies battling it out every year and having more and more new features.
Agreed. Very good video.
Sports games, same thing as a lot of things in this world, are ruined by capitalism. People think 'competition is great', but they forget or don't know that what EA did to monopolize the market of hockey games IS part of the incentives of free market capitalism. The freedom to take over and then lower quality and produce stupid little microtransaction games within the game.
Collaboration to make the best possible hockey game would be much better, especially if it was open-sourced meaning the fans would get a say in the features they have been asking for for so many years. All those features that have been taken out could be quickly put back in. And instead of buying a new $70 game each year as a roster and team update - a free DLC of a roster/team update could be provided each year. Then a more significant update every 4-6 years. But, of course, that would destroy the capitalist profit motive and thus why we can't have great things very often.
But that gets down to a system level problem. Sorry to get a little philosophical and technical on everyone. It just gets me a bit sad to think how of much better we could all have it with a resource-based economy instead of what we have now.
@@coolioso808 People rarely work on things for free. Back then consumers had a higher standard for products, but now as you see with modern Madden they don’t give a shit anymore.
@@theobserver4214 Oh the lovely "invisible hand of the market" thy God is the only way to organize human society, right? We can't have people actually working on things because they are passionate about it, right? We can't organize by Natural Law on the things we really need to produce and distribute them efficiently. No, no, that would be madness. Let's continuing this monetary-market system where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer and the masses actually don't think the system is a problem, they keep blaming small entities that they think are just 'not working right'.
NHL 2K needs to make a comeback fr. Heres my wishlist for NHL 2k:
-Historic jerseys
-Historic draft classes
-Classic and decade teams
-ERAS mode (Play in the 70s 80s 90s and so on)
-Heavy metal/hard rock soundtrack
-Huge customization for rosters, players, franchise mode, arenas, etc
-Zamboni mode between periods
I loved 2k's NHL game and the put alot of detail in it and they don't put that much detail in sports video games now
NHL2k8 was amazing .. I’m still shocked what they did to 2009 nhl2k8 best hockey game of all time
Never really been a hockey fan but I've been watching the Stanley cup an been pretty entertained definitely gonna pick up NHL 2k8.. thanks softdrink
2k games used to be great. NFL 2K5 is still the best NFL game.
I'd like to see another company do it.
Proud to say I still have my copy of NHL 2K10
Must review list: Smackdown vs Raw 2011, NBA2K19, MLB The Show 2010, NBA2K9, Madden 2001, Tiger Woods 2005
Oh gosh if 2k released NHL now it would be amazing.
Imagine franchise mode all set up like MYNba. It’s would be so in-depth and have so much too it. Even BAP
as a kid i got a copy of 2K5 as part of a combo deal they did with NBA 2K5 and at that point my knowledge of hockey went as far as the Mighty Duck movies. However, despite that and despite me barely knowing the rules of hockey the franchise mode and customisation options meant that i ended up spending the majority of my time on NHL 2K5! One of the most fun sporting game experiences i had in my childhood for sure
After purchasing the EA NHL games since the first one on the Genesis, I switched over to 2K with NHL 2K5 and was instantly blown away by the depths of its gameplay. Till this day, I still believe that NHL 2K8 is the greatest hockey videogame of all time with unrivaled Goalie mechanics and puck physics. I played its franchise mode for so long that I actually broke the game. I begrudgingly went back to EA after NHL 2K9. Eventually, I just stopped buying hockey games altogether after NHL 20. A real shame what happened to both series.
loved the extra game modes in NHL2K5
Soft drink tv, 3 retrospective I want to see is, ESPN NHL 2k5, the greatest NHL 2k video game ever, NHL 07, the game that introduced the skill stick, and NHL 08, continued evolution of the skill stick, combined with new skating engine, 1on1 loose puck deking system, create custom plays, creation zone includes Create a player, edit player, create a team, edit team and goalie mode, I really want to see these 3 future retrospective videos please.
havent watched but know its gon be a banger like usual
Fantastic video! I miss NHL 2K SO MUCH! I’m a massive hockey fan but I haven’t touched a hockey game since 2K stopped producing the series. Would love to see 2K make more sports games period.
same. i still missed nhl 14 for ps3, 32 features that i loved and enjoyed was in 14, and since 15, its has not been the same.
2K5, 2K6 and 2K7 were the first NHL games I ever owned and I played them all the time on my old reliable crystal case Xbox. I’ll never forget listening to the tutorial videos with the voices of Peter O’Keefe and Dan Stevens, explaining in detail how to play the game. That goes for ESPN NFL 2K5 as well. It’s 2024 now and I haven’t played another NHL game since those old 2K games, but want to get back into NHL games. But sadly it seems the modern EA ones aren’t even worth trying.
Love the intro bro
5:19 *It was the last game released for the Dreamcast in North America.
Karous (2007) was the last officially released Dreamcast game in Japan.
Heavy Metal:Geomatrix Evil Twin (both released on the same day in 2002) were the last officially released Dreamcast games in PAL regions.
Sorry for the pedantry. Love your videos!
i still have nhl 2k5 and play create a team franchises it is fire.
I only had 2k11 and didn't play a new nhl game until nhl 22, lots of changes but I really liked 2ks season mode and the commentary was way better than what it is now I also liked how you could zamboni the ice between periods. It also had achievements related to all the teams
I remembered playing the NHL2k11 Game simply for its gameplay, fun modes, and the mode I most remembered is “Road to the Cup.” Which ironically is one of the main inspirations for an irl event I held with my family every December. Fun memories!
2K5 and 2K8 are some of my fav modern hockey games ever
I remember playing this with my buddy on his sega Dreamcast and honestly it was a waaaaay better game than EA. I played hockey, and 2K felt so much closer to the actual game, as far as a video game can.
Great video
Love the What Happens on these games @softdrinkTV. Could you also do NCAA Basketball for 2k as well?
He has done a few
I use to love 2k & I honestly use to purchase both copies every year I wish they would come back or a developer that cared
you should make a video of the dreamcast soccer games ! dope video 🔥
Wow, those 2k7 mini games really took me back to 10 year old me.. played so much of those, so good
Great work !!!!
you should do a story on the NLL games from 10 years ago.
Watching this video makes me wish I would’ve played 2k’s NHL series, but then again, there’s a 10 year span where I barely played any video games at all and those 10 years were 2001-2011!
Crazy I requested this yesterday from you
Great vid I play NHL 2K 10 on my Wii still 😂
The entire 2k5 lineup of games (nhl, nba, nfl, mlb) changes sport games forever in my eyes. To me it’s the greatest overall generation of sports games.
i agree.
NHL 2K5 had the BEST fighting in a hockey game ever.
I miss the NHL 2K games as it was nice to have another option when it came to NHL hockey games. Great job on the documentary.
same.
The 2K goalie movements were awesome!
I’m Australian, and growing up I knew nothing about ice hockey, but I use to love the hockey games in my Sega master system and then my super nes.
There was just something about the sport that worked so well as a 8 bit/16 bit video game. I tried to play ea nhl 22 recently but I couldn’t get into it.
Between quality issues and cooperate greed, I have a hard time trying to justify supporting the gaming industry anymore.
Not every gaming industry have those problems, to be fair it is a company so without profit there is no company no matter if the game plays good or not, they bottom line is does it sell if not then cancel because the company doesn't get anything in return but wasting their money
Great video! I enjoy the EA series at times but NHL 2K definitely had some great games
TL;DR, The best times to have bought any sports games were from 2000-2008, since that was when all the competition was around. There is now no more competition for NFL, NHL, NBA, and MLB games. That is kinda what I got from watching loads of your videos.
Remember when you could drive a zamboni and skate around with the stanley cup trophy? Prestige knows.
I literally just today thought “SOFTDRINKTV should make a video on the NHL 2K games” lol.
i want this to come back this was soooo awesome
Never played an NHL game before lol, but since it’s from SoftDrink.. I’ll watch!
NHL2K4 and 2K10 are my 2 favorite hockey games.
I tell everyone. NHL2K5 was the greatest hockey game ever made.
I remember playing NHL 2k to Dreamcast at the hardest difficulty but still winning every game with 30-0 or something. And then I couldn't start the playoffs due to some kind of error. Even though I had some great players in my team (Lemieux and a stats maxed version of myself, for example), there was that one deke that always worked: left-right-left-shot.
Got 2k10 for Christmas when I was 5 or 6. Didn’t play it until 11-12, I started getting into rosters and jerseys and now I’ve poured hundreds of hours of roster customization into that game. I’ve definitely gotten my money’s worth for it.
NHL2K now would be so sick with career mode, imagine something around world of chel but there’s a whole city you can explore. Much better than what world of chel is today imo.
There is another NHL game called Hockey Franchise Manager, but it's literally what it sounds like, a franchise manager. From what I have seen, you don't actually play you're just a gm.
You're a GM and coach. But no, you don't actually play the game. Still, the depth is unparalleled; I'm currently using the Senators starting in 1991 with the expansion draft and seeing how quick I can build a winner.
Your review of ESPN 2K5 made me go buy a copy
Your intro sounds like the NHL on ESPN intro
Fr i thought the same thing
Almost like that was the intention...weird...
I know right?
i would love to see nhl hitz documentary video, i would also like to see nhl 2k7 ps3 retrospective video.
I really miss the days of the 2k sim focused games it was such a good counter to the casual friendly games of EA. It really brought out the best of both companies
same.
One thing I like to do is go to a local used games store and pick up a bunch of old sports games for my 360. Sports games are generally dirt cheap for obvious reasons, but I've always liked checking out the older sports games compared to the newer ones. I always found that the 2K games controlled better in my opinion. Specifically 2K8 which I had a lot of fun with. I wish the modern EA sports games weren't soulless cash grabs anymore.
Love the NHL 2k series brought like 8 titles they always pay attention to details
The one feature that killed the NHL 2K game franchise:
CINEMOTION!
Kidding though that feature really was useless. I think it was in 2K9. I do miss these games though. Played every NHL 2K games from 2K3 to 2K10. I actually liked it better than EA NHL's series for a few years. RIP NHL 2K series. You are dearly missed.
I had purchased nhl 14 based on how it was the last great nhl game and it really does feel like a great game then. I don’t know what is the greatest hockey game ever but from this and the last great hockey vid it is interesting to see how things have fallen over time and I am not the biggest hockey fan ever but my English teacher sure was
I personally am an NHL Faceoff guy, I still loved NHL2K as a Sega fan. NHL 2K6 on 360 is my personal favorite due to it's "targeting system" for goals.
Funnily enough, I bought my first of 3 Dreamcasts (they all still work fine) 3 days before NHL 2K2 released.
Will we be getting an NHL Faceoff video anytime? Faceoff 99 was AWESOME!!!!
2K7 had one of the greatest soundtracks ever. Before internet roster updates I made trades myself if not in Franchise. So you heard the songs a lot, and got attached
Loved that soundtrack too, it's my favorite of the series and the best gameplay and jerseys for me.