I will give The Legend Reborn this: the characters actually look like the sets they're based on, and didn't have to animate every pin turning in the torso like they did. 👍
The one time they should have made the characters more organic, they instead made them even more robotic by going for near toy accuracy. So I disagree with that Legend Reborn take.
Legend Reborn is alright. I'm mainly miffed that the Glatorian don't actually look organic and that we got Legend Reborn instead of an ignition trilogy movie.
The only organic thing I could find on the Glatorian from The Legend Reborn was the *teeth* Imagine crying when Matoro’s sacrifice would happen in Ignition 2
I do wish we got an ignition trilogy film series, the animators could do some crazy shit with the visuals for those, also that was just peak Bionicle IMO so it'd be cool to have some movies made of that series just cause(just my dumb opinion)
@@HordikaNate3821 If I was 6 watching it, I'd be confused or focusing on cool bonkle fighting, only to rewatch it a few years later to bawl my eyes out
Was kinda expecting that last one for Legend Reborn. Lot more lighter and softer in tone, plus characters didn't really have too much dimension, and the music wasn't even done by Nathan Furst.
Not to mention that it went *_TOO_* toy-accurate with the character designs. The Bara Magna inhabitants were described as being organic with a lot of cybernetics, but the movie made them look entirely robotic. Not to mention the teeth.
I loved Legend Reborn as a 11 year old, watched it multiple time. Watched recently again, still liked it. Its a good movie and the internet cannot tell otherwise
TLR was certainly a thing. I find it a lot more interesting to watch knowing a lot of the production was by Threshold Studios-- y'know, the guys behind Foodfight and the Bobbleheads movie. TLR is godlike in comparison. I do think Threshold's cartoony but set-accurate style fit Hero Factory a lot better, even if those aren't masterpieces.
I got a bionicle movie from a store I frequent a while ago, I never watched it and I checked which it was after this video and guess what, it was legend f*cking reborn
Always wanted a sequel to Legend Reborn, it bugged me so much as a kid that so much plot was never finished and ended on a cliffhanger. Now this reminded me of that so thanks💀
Owned the first 2 on VHS and DVD respectively and watched them both multiple times as a kid. 3rd one my dad rented for me once and I enjoyed it but never ended up owning it. 4th one I never watched - I was too old by that point and had lost interest and moved on.
hey man like what you like. I think, minus the teeth, that the quality of the animation models is really good, and the music was decent, and the ending definitely left me wanting more at the time.
I still think it holds up 10 years later yes we still needed the last 3 films to lead up to it but considering they painstakingly recreated each model to accurately be like the figures but they did still keep the Miramax mouth piece style for the Matoran could it have been better yes should we have had one last movie for the stars story line with Scott McNeil reprising his role as Tahu also yes
I'd lump web of shadows up with the legend reborn. Web is trying so hard to be edgy at times it hurts. The scene where the Hordika enter the colosseum and cock their weapons like a gun gets me everytime.
The Legend Reborn I think didn't do a great job of showing the world of Bara Magna. It had to compromise a lot to get the plot done. The Zesk, Tarduk, Gelu, Fero, Atakus, Malum, Crotesius, Kibraz, Scodonius, Sahmad, Telluris and Perditus were not even in the movie. Vastus and Tuma were not that well represented and the Core War and the Baterra that caused all this conflict were barely given attention. The Skrall as invincible and deadly force are reduced to blade swinging screamers. Compromises like these are the reason I think Ignition movies would have a negative impact on the degree of world-building and story-telling.
As a kid I remember being pissed about Gelu specifically, because he was my favorite out of the Glatorian sets Edit: also Malum was in the film technically, with the bugs from the film combining into a figure that looked like him
@@HordikaNate3821 Just a few months ago I stumbled over the information that Gelu actually participated in the final battle of the movie and chased Stronius back to the mountains from which the Skrall came to the Rock city they occupied in the movie in an effort to kill Tuma's right hand. He failed though. I think that is super fascinating, although it was only ever mentioned in a character guide.
Haha, I know the "nice" meme but I haven't seen the full video before so the twist was pretty surprising Like others, I thought the animation in and acting in The Legend Reborn was so good, but the way they butchered Tuma, Metis, and Strakk, after their characters and personalities were already so firmly established in canon, just ruined the whole thing for me.
^ This. Tuma, the Skrall, and all the Bone Hunters were butchered, especially the Skrall which were treated as mindless non-speaking creatures. WTF? That script needed a few more passes before it should have even begun the first storyboard.
@@TheShadowedOne1 I always wondered how much involvement Greg Farshtey had in these movies, if any. He's credited on them, but they always seems to contradict what he already wrote in the books or comics.
I love how much this dude has had a resurgence in meme presence with this format, I need to watch these films again, kid me's favorites were Web of Shadows and funnily enough Legend Reborn. WOS as a kid had a ton of moments where I was on the edge of my seat as a kid, the toa being mutated was a neat premise, and while I love the depiction of Metru Nui in the previous film seeing this run down dystopian version of the same place was super cool to me, TLR whilst a lot of people hate that movie, but the characters and the acting even back then carried the film for me, I think that the Glatorian story in general should have leaned more into the battle royal/gladiator thing, as well as just about how fucked up Bara Magna is. Mask of light and Legends of Metru Nui were cool two, Takanuva is my favorite Toa and Takua's ark in MOL is partly why, and I loved finding out about Metru Nui and how the Turaga from the first film were Toa, I remember the ending blew my mind as a kid So yee, I haven't seen them since Bionicle first ended but this is just some anecdotes on em
TLR dvd is still my worst DVD purchase to this day. How boring and annoying that whole film is and it felt very cheap compared to the extras seen in Miramax Bionicle trilogy.
Never had a problem with Legend Reborn(Like a biblical Mad Max), though Web of Shadows could've been written better like Matau should've turn evil(a homage to Nhidiki), 05 was a bleak set year anyway just because they couldn't write the story better like them turning into rahi was kinda stupid Nhidiki it made sense cause his treacherous ways, but being werespiders?(from what I gather) was bad writing and should've just shelved or remodeled the story of 05. Cause Vakama loved his siblings and to keep Lhikans sacriface just for him to turn evil was a total 180. Keetongu, Sidorak, and Roodaka were great titan sets/characters of the lore just the Hordika were the worst. If the story revolved around Roodaka infecting them with Makuta's Virus the same one that put Mata Nui to sleep, or illusion that would be better like the Visorak will stay in the story but their venom spreads Makuta's virus, and slowly they turn into Shadow Toa bringing out the worst in each one of them(similar to Takanuva in Ignition 3) and in the end using the Avohkii that Keetongu was keeping(before hiding it on Mata Nui) to cure their shadow virus would be a better a plot than what occured in WoS.
Personally, The Legend Reborn is the only one I actually like. Maybe it’s nostalgia, but I found it much more entertaining than the soap opera that was Bionicle 3. Mask of Light is passable and Legends of Metru Nui is pretty meh (though the battle with Makuta was pretty good)
Wait, legend reborn was that bad? I thought web of shadows was the worst because it was taking place right before the end of metru nui because every thing leads to that scene of the toa metru becoming turaga (I don’t think I spelled that right) and so you know nothing terrible happens but what ev
We need more Michael Rosen in the community.
I think we have enough Michael Rosen as it is.
I will give The Legend Reborn this: the characters actually look like the sets they're based on, and didn't have to animate every pin turning in the torso like they did. 👍
The most ironic part of the entire film; the Agori/Glatorian are supposed to be *more* organic than those of the Mata Nui universe.
The artstyle as well in general in the old films just capture that uncanny valley feeling perfectly, due to how weird the character designs look
The one time they should have made the characters more organic, they instead made them even more robotic by going for near toy accuracy. So I disagree with that Legend Reborn take.
Legend Reborn is alright. I'm mainly miffed that the Glatorian don't actually look organic and that we got Legend Reborn instead of an ignition trilogy movie.
The only organic thing I could find on the Glatorian from The Legend Reborn was the *teeth*
Imagine crying when Matoro’s sacrifice would happen in Ignition 2
We should have gotten the ignition trilogy and THEN a Glatorian/Bara Magna trilogy.
I do wish we got an ignition trilogy film series, the animators could do some crazy shit with the visuals for those, also that was just peak Bionicle IMO so it'd be cool to have some movies made of that series just cause(just my dumb opinion)
@@ReeksofChees3 Yes Imagine being me at age 6, but you're watching a movie and not reading a comic book
@@HordikaNate3821 If I was 6 watching it, I'd be confused or focusing on cool bonkle fighting, only to rewatch it a few years later to bawl my eyes out
Was kinda expecting that last one for Legend Reborn. Lot more lighter and softer in tone, plus characters didn't really have too much dimension, and the music wasn't even done by Nathan Furst.
I remember thinking it was for little kids when I was a teen, only for someone to remind me it was aimed at the same age level
Not to mention that it went *_TOO_* toy-accurate with the character designs. The Bara Magna inhabitants were described as being organic with a lot of cybernetics, but the movie made them look entirely robotic. Not to mention the teeth.
that Tuma fight was just...
@@Famix I was 12 when I watched TLR and it was too childish for me. I think they made that movie for 6 year olds?
I love all four Bionicle movies. It's my childhood.
Yes. While they're not perfect, they're a part of who I am.
@@canrex7540 hell yeah
Bandicoot here has the most correct opinion
I loved Legend Reborn as a 11 year old, watched it multiple time. Watched recently again, still liked it. Its a good movie and the internet cannot tell otherwise
Everyone hates it for some reason. Like come on it's really good what's next are they going to analyze paw patrol.
Legend Reborn is better than web of shadows
@@gregorius9251 Facts
@@gregorius9251 Bruh no.
Rosen is such a good storyteller
As well as great meme material
The best kind of video before going to sleep ! Thank you !
Truly, a relic of the 2000's
TLR was certainly a thing. I find it a lot more interesting to watch knowing a lot of the production was by Threshold Studios-- y'know, the guys behind Foodfight and the Bobbleheads movie. TLR is godlike in comparison. I do think Threshold's cartoony but set-accurate style fit Hero Factory a lot better, even if those aren't masterpieces.
I barely remember watching the last one myself
How to get a fan's reaction to 4 bionicle movies without saying anything about bionicle: This Video.
I got a bionicle movie from a store I frequent a while ago, I never watched it and I checked which it was after this video and guess what, it was legend f*cking reborn
well you might still like it if havent ever watched it
Always wanted a sequel to Legend Reborn, it bugged me so much as a kid that so much plot was never finished and ended on a cliffhanger.
Now this reminded me of that so thanks💀
the plot was resolved in the comics and man i wish mata nui vs makuta was animated
the legend reborn was good for its time, was supposed to start another trilogy but the other two got cancelled because bionicle was discontinued
As much as I love legend reborn, most of my love for it is nostalgia, not because it’s a good movie, but I’m ok with that
Owned the first 2 on VHS and DVD respectively and watched them both multiple times as a kid. 3rd one my dad rented for me once and I enjoyed it but never ended up owning it.
4th one I never watched - I was too old by that point and had lost interest and moved on.
And I’m just going to slowly and quietly leave the room and hope no one knows I actually think Legend Reborn was a good movie
The legend reborn was indeed a good movie by good standards of movies 🤗
hey man like what you like. I think, minus the teeth, that the quality of the animation models is really good, and the music was decent, and the ending definitely left me wanting more at the time.
Don’t worry, I liked it, too
I loved it as a kid and while it's been a decade since then, it's fine that you enjoy it
I still think it holds up 10 years later yes we still needed the last 3 films to lead up to it but considering they painstakingly recreated each model to accurately be like the figures but they did still keep the Miramax mouth piece style for the Matoran could it have been better yes should we have had one last movie for the stars story line with Scott McNeil reprising his role as Tahu also yes
I'd lump web of shadows up with the legend reborn. Web is trying so hard to be edgy at times it hurts. The scene where the Hordika enter the colosseum and cock their weapons like a gun gets me everytime.
The Legend Reborn I think didn't do a great job of showing the world of Bara Magna. It had to compromise a lot to get the plot done. The Zesk, Tarduk, Gelu, Fero, Atakus, Malum, Crotesius, Kibraz, Scodonius, Sahmad, Telluris and Perditus were not even in the movie. Vastus and Tuma were not that well represented and the Core War and the Baterra that caused all this conflict were barely given attention. The Skrall as invincible and deadly force are reduced to blade swinging screamers.
Compromises like these are the reason I think Ignition movies would have a negative impact on the degree of world-building and story-telling.
Reviving Bionicle gave Perditus an actual character arc unlike The Legend Reborn.
As a kid I remember being pissed about Gelu specifically, because he was my favorite out of the Glatorian sets
Edit: also Malum was in the film technically, with the bugs from the film combining into a figure that looked like him
@@HordikaNate3821 Just a few months ago I stumbled over the information that Gelu actually participated in the final battle of the movie and chased Stronius back to the mountains from which the Skrall came to the Rock city they occupied in the movie in an effort to kill Tuma's right hand. He failed though. I think that is super fascinating, although it was only ever mentioned in a character guide.
@@Makutros interesting, I guess I do kinda remember something like that happening in the comics
Haha, I know the "nice" meme but I haven't seen the full video before so the twist was pretty surprising
Like others, I thought the animation in and acting in The Legend Reborn was so good, but the way they butchered Tuma, Metis, and Strakk, after their characters and personalities were already so firmly established in canon, just ruined the whole thing for me.
^ This.
Tuma, the Skrall, and all the Bone Hunters were butchered, especially the Skrall which were treated as mindless non-speaking creatures. WTF? That script needed a few more passes before it should have even begun the first storyboard.
@@TheShadowedOne1 I always wondered how much involvement Greg Farshtey had in these movies, if any. He's credited on them, but they always seems to contradict what he already wrote in the books or comics.
Pls kanohi mask portrayed by memes in the internet
Pretty much
I actually liked all the films, I know the Netflix series wasn't a film but atleast add that hear
There's a Netflix series?
@@Famix Bionicle, Journey to One, 5 episodes only made and the first episode was more like a recap of the 2015 story
I love how much this dude has had a resurgence in meme presence with this format, I need to watch these films again, kid me's favorites were Web of Shadows and funnily enough Legend Reborn.
WOS as a kid had a ton of moments where I was on the edge of my seat as a kid, the toa being mutated was a neat premise, and while I love the depiction of Metru Nui in the previous film seeing this run down dystopian version of the same place was super cool to me,
TLR whilst a lot of people hate that movie, but the characters and the acting even back then carried the film for me, I think that the Glatorian story in general should have leaned more into the battle royal/gladiator thing, as well as just about how fucked up Bara Magna is.
Mask of light and Legends of Metru Nui were cool two, Takanuva is my favorite Toa and Takua's ark in MOL is partly why, and I loved finding out about Metru Nui and how the Turaga from the first film were Toa, I remember the ending blew my mind as a kid
So yee, I haven't seen them since Bionicle first ended but this is just some anecdotes on em
I personally thought the 3rd movie should have had the It was a bit rich reaction
Marvel phase 5 starts next year…
TLR dvd is still my worst DVD purchase to this day. How boring and annoying that whole film is and it felt very cheap compared to the extras seen in Miramax Bionicle trilogy.
Never had a problem with Legend Reborn(Like a biblical Mad Max), though Web of Shadows could've been written better like Matau should've turn evil(a homage to Nhidiki), 05 was a bleak set year anyway just because they couldn't write the story better like them turning into rahi was kinda stupid Nhidiki it made sense cause his treacherous ways, but being werespiders?(from what I gather) was bad writing and should've just shelved or remodeled the story of 05. Cause Vakama loved his siblings and to keep Lhikans sacriface just for him to turn evil was a total 180. Keetongu, Sidorak, and Roodaka were great titan sets/characters of the lore just the Hordika were the worst. If the story revolved around Roodaka infecting them with Makuta's Virus the same one that put Mata Nui to sleep, or illusion that would be better like the Visorak will stay in the story but their venom spreads Makuta's virus, and slowly they turn into Shadow Toa bringing out the worst in each one of them(similar to Takanuva in Ignition 3) and in the end using the Avohkii that Keetongu was keeping(before hiding it on Mata Nui) to cure their shadow virus would be a better a plot than what occured in WoS.
Was everything you said made up or was that actually Canon?
@@BSB-xh2ty The second half I thought on the for a better plot for WoS.
I LOVED LEGEND REBORN THO
TLR is underrated as heck. At least I liked it.
I think Mask of Light was the worst, probably on the same level as Legend Reborn. The Metru Nui movies are the best.
Legend Reborn is the best movie and this is the hill I will die on
Least Bionicle Revolution is not on the list.
Idk, The Legend Reborn was rad imo
I love the Legend Reborn, it was the first Bionicle movie I ever saw
Legend reborn gets too much hate ->-
i prefer TLR over the original trilogy. Let the hate begin
**cries in Nathan Furst**
I liked all of them, number one the least, fight me. Also the soundtracks of 3 and 4 slap major ass cheecks.
I like The Legend Reborn...
Still have legend reborn on disk
I don’t agree with the legend reborn opinion from the community
Personally, The Legend Reborn is the only one I actually like. Maybe it’s nostalgia, but I found it much more entertaining than the soap opera that was Bionicle 3. Mask of Light is passable and Legends of Metru Nui is pretty meh (though the battle with Makuta was pretty good)
Wait, legend reborn was that bad? I thought web of shadows was the worst because it was taking place right before the end of metru nui because every thing leads to that scene of the toa metru becoming turaga (I don’t think I spelled that right) and so you know nothing terrible happens but what ev