It is impressive how quickly these planes stabilize when go-around full throttle is applied. I mean - it makes sense going from almost just gliding and being at the whims of nature to pushing through ... but still impressive. And pilots should really never doubt that this is the action to take in moments of doubt.
When the engines finally spool up and produce thrust, yeah. But I’m pretty sure they pushed the throttles forward a good 5 seconds before we saw the effects
@@ambiention nah its less than that, the engines are actually ready for the go around, takes about 1-2 seconds, the rest of the plane however is not. The inertia of the plane going down to a positive rate going up would take the bulk of the time.
@@RLTtizME These long haul pilots get to do far fewer landings than the pilots of the small planes. I guess they are given more time in the simulators - hopefully!
I think that JAL flight probably initiated the go-around earlier than it looks, at about 0:25, and it just took that long for the engines to spool back up from idle. Close one for sure
Listening to the rain, I'd bet they were at the edge of rainfall/rain cloud, which puts them at risk of a microburst. I'd be sitting in the back wishing for a go-around.😣
It is an awesome plane that was created for a market that failed to materialize. They only made 250 or so with half going to a single airline. Compare that to the thousands of 737s that have been made over the last 5 decades that are still being sold faster than they can be made. Airbus lost their ass on the 380 btw.
@@toomanybears_ 737 being sold faster than they can be built? I'm not sure what you are talking about, but the 737MAX are being sold at humongous discounts because Boeing can find no buyers at normal prices and can't get rid of the already built planes. And if the A380 was not a success with 250 built units, don't get me started with the ludicrous 747-8 that has only managed to sell 48 passenger versions and 107 freight versions. It's like Boeing saw Airbus's bad decision and said "hold my beer, I can make it even worse" lol.
I am still very fascinated that these things can actually fly. I bet the Wright Brothers would be amazed and in complete awe to see how thier experiments have panned out.
The A380 has a special place in my heart as I lived bear Perpignan in southern France which is about 150 kms south of Toulouse. When the A380 first took to the skies it used the much quieter airport of Perpignan to train its new pilots. I watched in awe as it did touch and goes as I used to do in a Cessna 150.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but isn't it in active service currently? It's just not in production anymore but I just flew on an Emirates A380 around the time you made your comment.
Well, you know that in these times of economies, the Captain elected to taxy to destination in order to save fuel. Pity that the journey will take about 4 days to complete. But no airborne cycles to enter in the Tech Log - win, win?
A stabilised approach is measured usually at 500 or 1000 feet and also at 4 miles in my company. It’s criterion are speed, configuration, rate of descent, alignment with the runway and on the instrument procedure profile. Since being unstablised at the ‘gate’ is a mandatory go around it is likely that the JAL B777 was fully stabilised but performed a baulked landing due to gusts in the flare. Good decision I would say.
@@topethermohenes7658 Of course. By, for instance, drifting below or above the glide slope after the 1000ft gate from changes in tail or head wind. Plus any number of other ways.
I always enjoy you videos. One thing I really respect about them is that you lead with whatever is in the title of the video. People what the entire video becuase all of it is good!
That “narrow taxiway” looked like someone’s driveway! 😂 How cool would it be to wake up, look out my window, and see an A330 rolling down (or up) the street.
@@Boss_Tanaka True, unless you are actually in the aircraft you can't know for sure. In the video it looks like they were coming down smoothly on the glide slope and were going to hit the touchdown zone perfectly until the last second it looks like a gust picked up port [left] wing and they said screw it, hit the gas [TOGA button] and got out of there.
How do we know the first one was an unstabilized approach? looks pretty normal coming in, the problem is not an unstabilized approach but clearly strong gusts.
Why was that A380 going into long term storage? I know they’re getting away from all 4 engine aircraft but I’m surprised a different airline didn’t purchase it.
I don't think that TAM 330 was "forced" to use that narrow taxiway. It's clearly marked, no vehicle turns right or left and give right of way to airplanes crossing. Looks like SOP.. IMHO. I am however surprised that this was a solo operation with no ground crew or support vehicles for the length and steep incline of that strip. Very interesting video. Thanks.
That was shot using a long lens, which compresses distance, so was probably more clearance that it seemed. And the hill. . . . so what, there is plenty of power available.
There are so many beautiful aircraft out there… I can’t stick to two… but Concorde is such a beautiful bird… I was behind it on the next plane taking off and LHR just after in January 2002… it was insanely loud. Those pics are my treasures. Also the queen of the skies 747 still rules for me over the 380, but not discounting the sheer beauty of the 380.
After a while I kept hearing DEER, DEER, DEER, DEER, DEER and thought to myself, "man that thing is way beyond broken, how could there be deer be up at this altitude?"
@@mrplod1616 it’s a secondary graveyard airport in Spain pretty sure. The company situated there both store and dismantle jets. Recently Malaysia airlines is also sending some jumbos there 😔
"Thank you for flying Japan Airlines" "Please put your trays up for a crash landing"! "There is an extra pair of underwear in the seat back in front of you... dispose in trash as you scramble for an emergency exit"!! 🤣
The TAM Airbus A330 looks like it is taking off from a drug smuggling runway. What is up with running power lines close to the taxi way? Crazy. Those power lines should be all underground in that area.
re: the PC-12 segment, I really thought I heard the computer saying, "DEER... DEER... DEER!". Living out in the Country, Deer are a common hazard, particularly at twilight. Not generally, though, at altitude!
Maybe someone who know way more about jets than I do can answer this question. Wouldn't be more efficient and provide much more control for jets to use electric motors (powered by the engines) to power the wheels while on the ground rather than using the jets engines? If it is practical for diesel-electric locomotives to do it, why wouldn't it work for jets?
Electric motors would add more weight, more cost, more maintenance, and more parts mean that there are more parts that can fail. If the jet engines can move the plane around, why not save the weight, reduce the parts, and save the cost by not using electric motors? Diesel-electric locomotives use electric motors because they are much simpler and much more rugged than any type of mechanical gear-switching transmission to connect the diesel engines to the wheel. If they didn't use an electric motor they'd have to use some sort of torque converter type of arrangement that would be much more complicated, would cost a lot more, and wouldn't be anywhere near as simple and rugged. Plus, electric motors have full torque right from the start, which is important for getting something as heavy as a locomotive moving from a dead stop. Adding electric motors to a plane would be adding additional motors that are only used to move the plane around on the ground. In a diesel-electric locomotive, the electric motor isn't an extra part. It's part of the main drive system and is used every time the locomotive moves. It's a completely different situation.
Very good clips. There’s something dinosaurish seeing a huge jet driving up a glorified bike path.
Yeah, it looked so strange that there was a real airplane taxying past "trees". Almost reminded me of Flight-Sim " Ignore Crash" mode.
it's unnerving to see a jet in close quarters like that
@@julieb3996 I’d faint
It is impressive how quickly these planes stabilize when go-around full throttle is applied. I mean - it makes sense going from almost just gliding and being at the whims of nature to pushing through ... but still impressive. And pilots should really never doubt that this is the action to take in moments of doubt.
When the engines finally spool up and produce thrust, yeah. But I’m pretty sure they pushed the throttles forward a good 5 seconds before we saw the effects
@@ambiention Yeah, those huge 777 engines have a lot of rotational inertia and take a while to spool up.
yes! i was also wondering at the brutal power of those engines - hauled tons of mass away in a matter of seconds
@@ambiention nah its less than that, the engines are actually ready for the go around, takes about 1-2 seconds, the rest of the plane however is not. The inertia of the plane going down to a positive rate going up would take the bulk of the time.
@@ambiention typically keep some power in it so the engines come up quicker. It seems counter productive i know
Impressive how those huge 777 engines pulled the aeroplane straight in no time!
and those weren’t even the GE90s! Imagine those beasts
Some amazing power indeed.
Loved the randomness of the A330 looking like it was just mooching around at the end there😆
Legend has it that "Gear, Gear" is still droning in the cockpit to this very day.
It’s certainly still droning in my head 30 minutes after watching the clip!
haha cockpit warning system goes gearrrrrr
Oh, though it was saying "Deer"!
still better than „Retard, Retard“
Expertly allowing the plane to yell Stall as well😂
It's amazing how the wind can push a plane the size of a 777 around like it's a toy!
Then you also have 100,000+tonne ships tossed about like corks in a bathtub, now that really blows my mind.
Or poor eye hand coordination.
@@RLTtizME These long haul pilots get to do far fewer landings than the pilots of the small planes. I guess they are given more time in the simulators - hopefully!
Agree. That was scary.
@@Luton-Mick how do they fit the ships in a bathtub?
I think that JAL flight probably initiated the go-around earlier than it looks, at about 0:25, and it just took that long for the engines to spool back up from idle. Close one for sure
That approach looked stabilized-judging from attitude and holding the runway lineup-so was it perhaps wind sheer that messed it up?
Listening to the rain, I'd bet they were at the edge of rainfall/rain cloud, which puts them at risk of a microburst. I'd be sitting in the back wishing for a go-around.😣
@@Meisha-san That was what I thought, too: wind shear.
@@Meisha-san To be sure.👍
@@kbahrami346 Which is different to wind sheer ... 😂
I mean if your going to practice full engine out and re-light procedures you should definitely do it over mountainous terrain.
ok mate
Especially with a turbine engine. Why play it safe??
No worries. I'm sure there's an airport right under them. At least, I hope I'm sure.
@@pfsantos007 it was literally above Pilatus' Airport
It's where Pilatus are made (close to the airport there's the mountain called Pilatus). One of the best approaches in Europe
The A380 is such a magnificent machine. So sad they stopped production.
It is an awesome plane that was created for a market that failed to materialize. They only made 250 or so with half going to a single airline. Compare that to the thousands of 737s that have been made over the last 5 decades that are still being sold faster than they can be made. Airbus lost their ass on the 380 btw.
@@toomanybears_ 737 being sold faster than they can be built? I'm not sure what you are talking about, but the 737MAX are being sold at humongous discounts because Boeing can find no buyers at normal prices and can't get rid of the already built planes.
And if the A380 was not a success with 250 built units, don't get me started with the ludicrous 747-8 that has only managed to sell 48 passenger versions and 107 freight versions. It's like Boeing saw Airbus's bad decision and said "hold my beer, I can make it even worse" lol.
Magnifique il es, mais trop gourmand en maintenance & en kérosène l’A 350 & l’A 330 ont pris le relais 😀👍
@@osasunaitor A380 is a complete failure compared to 737 planes. You have to agree with this statement.
One of the best normal flying experience especially on Emirates, economy had good space, least amount of noise in cabin
I'm gonna say that landing went right. If he had just tried to stick it down instead of going around THAT would have been doing it wrong.
1:50 "Gear... gear... gear... gear... gear... stall". XD
The word "gear" has lost all meaning.
Well for me i started hearing ear, then I heard beer. The plane really must just like beer.
Agreed. I never want to hear that word ever again.
It sounds like a combination of beer and gear.... This plane's nothing more than an intoxicated junkie
My gear or the plane gear ⁉️
I heard " the earth "
Brilliant clips. The so sad A380 wing wave, and I thought the TAM was accidently driving up someone's driveway.
I am still very fascinated that these things can actually fly. I bet the Wright Brothers would be amazed and in complete awe to see how thier experiments have panned out.
You should thank Santos Dumont.
That wing-wave. I don’t know why, but it just touched my heart this morning. Sometimes an airplane is more than just an airplane.
Maybe it was just waving good-bye since it was headed for long term storage. That’s what hit me as I saw the wave.
The A380 has a special place in my heart as I lived bear Perpignan in southern France which is about 150 kms south of Toulouse. When the A380 first took to the skies it used the much quieter airport of Perpignan to train its new pilots. I watched in awe as it did touch and goes as I used to do in a Cessna 150.
That A380 looked magnificent. Let's hope that great beast of a bird is back in active service soon.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but isn't it in active service currently? It's just not in production anymore but I just flew on an Emirates A380 around the time you made your comment.
@@aesaphyr I meant that particular individual plane. It was headed for storage or repair or something.
@@dixonpinfold2582 Oh gotcha!
TAM aircraft looked as though it could have been taxiing along the perimeter road
The PC-12 clip sounds like my wife trying to talk to me when I am watching football
02:07 - This is the LATAM Brasil maintenance center. Besides the short runway the pilots need to take the planes through tight taxiways to the hangar
Thanks.
Man... I'm still in awe of the ability of those massive jets. Maneuvers are slow but solid. A true testament to the engineering behind them.
Good lord, that "GEAR, GEAR, GEAR, GEAR" alarm would drive me insane, I'd probably jump from the aircraft after a few minutes of that.
We would wave and then steal your luggage.
@@RLTtizME You laugh, and laugh, then you realize I was the pilot and also I took both control yokes with me. And the only parachute.
@@andyb1653 And you would have landed in a manure slurry tank and drowned. We then laugh at you from the Pearly Gates.
That wind in the first one
More Switzerland clips! Yay!
I thought the TAM pilot was taking his plane out on the highway. ;^)
GPS Navigation: "In 1/4 mile, turn left. Recalculating."
Well, you know that in these times of economies, the Captain elected to taxy to destination in order to save fuel. Pity that the journey will take about 4 days to complete. But no airborne cycles to enter in the Tech Log - win, win?
Song playing in the cockpit... Steppenwolf - Born To Be Wild... "Head out on the highway, looking for adventure"...
The sign on that "taxiway" says only authorized persons. No mention of planes.
It was a walking path.
A stabilised approach is measured usually at 500 or 1000 feet and also at 4 miles in my company. It’s criterion are speed, configuration, rate of descent, alignment with the runway and on the instrument procedure profile. Since being unstablised at the ‘gate’ is a mandatory go around it is likely that the JAL B777 was fully stabilised but performed a baulked landing due to gusts in the flare. Good decision I would say.
You can be unstabilized after the 1000ft gate.
@@topethermohenes7658 Of course.
By, for instance, drifting below or above the glide slope after the 1000ft gate from changes in tail or head wind. Plus any number of other ways.
@@geoh7777 yeah but by the way the comment said it ment that you can only be unstable at 1000ft, hence my comment
Video was only 2.56mins lol.
Repeated "gear" warning sounded like bouncing kangaroo in cockpit 😂
I always enjoy you videos. One thing I really respect about them is that you lead with whatever is in the title of the video. People what the entire video becuase all of it is good!
I would have never expected that deer were such a problem at altitude. Lol.
Awesome, as always!
The bit at the end with the A330 looks like Microsoft Flight Simulator. Good on Microsoft I guess.
Is it real or not, can't tell
If you don’t like how I taxi, stay off the sidewalks.
I'd panic if the plane is telling me repeatedly that there's a deer up ahead
🤣🤣🤣
santa delivering presents early
The Lufthansa A380 is actually what happens when the pilot forgets to put his coffee in the cup holder. 😉
0:23 - 0:29 - That plane got “WAY TO EXCITED FOR IT’S LUNCH BREAK”!!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2:05 - 2:34 - This plane “going flying” or “GOING GOLFING”?????
I think the Pilatus crew must’ve left their stash of gear in the car. Such an intelligent aeroplane.
That “narrow taxiway” looked like someone’s driveway! 😂 How cool would it be to wake up, look out my window, and see an A330 rolling down (or up) the street.
Not so cool when it blows your garden shed and letterbox away! 😡
Awesome how much thrust those 777 engines produce when going around. Really impressive! Thank you for sharing
Absolutely love your channel 💖
That was a stabilized approach, at the touchdown point it became unstable due to ground wind gusts. If you notice the intermittent vegetation blowing.
The wind gusts messed up the approach but you cannot tell if it was stabilized or not unless you re in the plane watching the gauges
@@Boss_Tanaka True, unless you are actually in the aircraft you can't know for sure. In the video it looks like they were coming down smoothly on the glide slope and were going to hit the touchdown zone perfectly until the last second it looks like a gust picked up port [left] wing and they said screw it, hit the gas [TOGA button] and got out of there.
How do we know the first one was an unstabilized approach? looks pretty normal coming in, the problem is not an unstabilized approach but clearly strong gusts.
You can be unstabilized due to strong gust or windshear. Stabilization criteria doesn't stop at 1000ft
Thank you for sharing...The aircraft look great..
GREAT job by the Pilots😎🖖🏼
another grrrrrrreat video…TY, 3 M o A!😌😊😎😬✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️✈️
Wow, so restarting an engine is now highly skilled? Gezz
Not as complicated as replacing the springs on your recliner. You need to knock off a few pounds slim.
Why was that A380 going into long term storage? I know they’re getting away from all 4 engine aircraft but I’m surprised a different airline didn’t purchase it.
not sure where the clip of the plane landing that went wrong? i saw a normal go around due to wind shear. that's a common occurrence
See you next week, Aerosucre! ❤
0:24 oh boy, you know the passengers felt that.. some might've floated if they didn't have their belts on.
No! The announcement goes like this: "oh dear, fan has stopped, fan has stopped, fan has stopped". Along with, "stay cool, stay cool, stay cool!" 😎
A narrow taxiway??!! It looks like a rural county road in Pennsylvania!!
Great video!😸
I don't think that TAM 330 was "forced" to use that narrow taxiway. It's clearly marked, no vehicle turns right or left and give right of way to airplanes crossing. Looks like SOP.. IMHO.
I am however surprised that this was a solo operation with no ground crew or support vehicles for the length and steep incline of that strip. Very interesting video. Thanks.
And that close to the roof of a building too.
It's a private airport, where there is a maintenance center owned by TAM, located in São Paulo, Brazil.
Runway is only 5400ft long.
That was shot using a long lens, which compresses distance, so was probably more clearance that it seemed. And the hill. . . . so what, there is plenty of power available.
So pleased that Lufthansa are reintroducing the A380 may they continue to operate then for many years.
Great video!
Deer at 10k feet, what are you trying to do, take down Santa?
Imagine parking that 330 beauty in your "driveway"...
The wings should clear the postbox & garden gnome 😂
Gear gear gear gear gear gear gear gear gear gear gear...put a beat behind that, and it would make a great techno song 😎!!
Only Concorde and the A380 have a special place in my heart.
Definitely Concorde but also balcony bra's, short skirts and ice cream.
There are so many beautiful aircraft out there… I can’t stick to two… but Concorde is such a beautiful bird… I was behind it on the next plane taking off and LHR just after in January 2002… it was insanely loud. Those pics are my treasures. Also the queen of the skies 747 still rules for me over the 380, but not discounting the sheer beauty of the 380.
The go around is the least practiced but safest maneuver anyone could use!
Gear...Gear...Yeaaah...Enough to drive you crazy?!?! 😉
That last uphill taxing might cause the alarm blaring in the cockpit. Thrust set over the limit of taxing
After a while I kept hearing DEER, DEER, DEER, DEER, DEER and thought to myself, "man that thing is way beyond broken, how could there be deer be up at this altitude?"
I thought it was just some bitch in the back demanding beer.
thank you
When in doubt, go around
GOOD DECISION CAPTAIN!!! 👍🏼
That taxiway in the end looked more like a road.
watching it before my flight
What kind of warning is “Air…. Air…. Air…..” we’re supposed in the air, sally! Jkjkjkjk
Unstable-ized approach ... the horse had well and truly bolted.
The a380 departure made me sad. I was fortunate to be on one of the Lufthansa a380s and what beauties. Turel is literally the graveyard of jumbo jets.
I got to fly Concorde about 10 years before it's retirement. It's a sad thing, but the market decides.
Lufthansa is bringing the A380 back in 2023!
Where is Turel?
@@mrplod1616 Teruel Airport is situated in Spain and is well known as being the graveyard of airplanes.
@@mrplod1616 it’s a secondary graveyard airport in Spain pretty sure. The company situated there both store and dismantle jets. Recently Malaysia airlines is also sending some jumbos there 😔
Excellent and exciting.
Why long term storage on the a380?
Whats up with that Lufthansa A380? (Just curious)
Seemed like a lot of energy went into that wobble especially on take off...
Waving goodbye
JAL unstable approach? No, it’s called wind shear, welcome to Narita.
If the A380 is doing a 'wave wing' it's not showing off, it's normally due to a captain retiring.
I kept thinking they were going to hit a deer!🦌
Looks like that Japan Airlines hit a downburst or downdraft, they were really quick to respond.
Where was the landing that goes wrong?
The approach was stable, it was that huge gust of wind that was being obnoxious !!
Those GE90s dont fuck around lol
"Thank you for flying Japan Airlines"
"Please put your trays up for a crash landing"!
"There is an extra pair of underwear in the seat back in front of you... dispose in trash as you scramble for an emergency exit"!! 🤣
They need to adjust the DEER warning on the PC-12.
I was waiting for a sick-ass bass drop after the repeated Gear.
Hearing that gear gear in the cockpit is pretty scary
GEAR GEAR GEAR GEAR GEAR GEAR GEAR GEAR GEAR GEAR
What was the reason to shut down the Pilatus?
how many titles are we going to see. How about six.?
Amazing how two people can fly that massive machine
TCAS kept telling them about some deer, but I never saw any
Oof for the people in the first one
Nice of the plane to warn them of Deer!
Gear gear gear
gear gear gear gear
The TAM Airbus A330 looks like it is taking off from a drug smuggling runway. What is up with running power lines close to the taxi way? Crazy. Those power lines should be all underground in that area.
Power lines, signs, basically everything just looks wrong, like idiotically placed autogen in Microsoft Flight Simulator.
Nice Video*****
I think there might have been a problem with the gear....not sure, just a hunch in my subconscious. lol
What, no Aerosucre clip?
At the 0:29 min mark...its crazy to see how fast it accelerates.
re: the PC-12 segment, I really thought I heard the computer saying, "DEER... DEER... DEER!". Living out in the Country, Deer are a common hazard, particularly at twilight. Not generally, though, at altitude!
Maybe someone who know way more about jets than I do can answer this question.
Wouldn't be more efficient and provide much more control for jets to use electric motors (powered by the engines) to power the wheels while on the ground rather than using the jets engines? If it is practical for diesel-electric locomotives to do it, why wouldn't it work for jets?
Electric motors would add more weight, more cost, more maintenance, and more parts mean that there are more parts that can fail. If the jet engines can move the plane around, why not save the weight, reduce the parts, and save the cost by not using electric motors? Diesel-electric locomotives use electric motors because they are much simpler and much more rugged than any type of mechanical gear-switching transmission to connect the diesel engines to the wheel. If they didn't use an electric motor they'd have to use some sort of torque converter type of arrangement that would be much more complicated, would cost a lot more, and wouldn't be anywhere near as simple and rugged. Plus, electric motors have full torque right from the start, which is important for getting something as heavy as a locomotive moving from a dead stop. Adding electric motors to a plane would be adding additional motors that are only used to move the plane around on the ground. In a diesel-electric locomotive, the electric motor isn't an extra part. It's part of the main drive system and is used every time the locomotive moves. It's a completely different situation.