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  • Опубликовано: 14 мар 2019
  • The FDA has approved a whole new class of antidepressant, and ultrasounds might be far more useful than we thought.
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    Ultrasound:
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  • @YeeSoest
    @YeeSoest 5 лет назад +693

    Sure, why not make it expensive. Nothing cures depression like debt !

    • @AlexanderPavel
      @AlexanderPavel 5 лет назад +41

      It's such BS because normal ketamine is $10 per dose... S-Ketamine should be more expensive (it requires some extra steps to separate it from the R-Ketamine in normal ketamine), but not _that_ much more

    • @dejayrezme8617
      @dejayrezme8617 5 лет назад +33

      ​@fontagra That's not fully true. Big pharma lobbied and the FDA is staffed with pharma friendly people. They WANT it to cost this much. That way you can protect your investor money because it's so expensive to get approval. It doesn't have to cost so much. Also the true costs for drug development are also often overinflated with costs for marketing.
      It costs so much BECAUSE they don't want new drugs on the market.
      It's a good thing. For investors who invested in the old drugs.
      And all the time costs for development are socialized. Some researchers at universities find something, apply for a patent, the patent is sold for pharma to make insane profits off of it. Socialized costs, privatized profits.
      I can't back up this claim and the truth will lie in between your view and mine, there are lots of people working in pharma who want to do good. But if I ask my psychopathic self, it's exactly how I would optimized my profits and protect my market.

    • @Almost3331
      @Almost3331 5 лет назад +1

      Some one put their own money into developing this drug, so it will be pricey for a few years. You may not like it but you will get a cheap drug faster by letting a company develop it then milk it for a few years, then by some other means with out the add cost befits.

    • @YeeSoest
      @YeeSoest 5 лет назад +7

      @fontagra That is only an explanation on how bad the system works! These companies have a duty and they can't and won't do what they should do because of shareholders and stock prices! We're talking about LIVES bekng lost and destroyed by the thousands here and profit or margins can not be the answer here if we consider ourselves advanced and progressive !

    • @YeeSoest
      @YeeSoest 5 лет назад +10

      @@Almost3331 what if I don't habe time to wait?
      What if it's still too expensive in 5 years when my cancer goes for the kill?
      Sorry but "they gotta make a buck" is a silly excuse for a morally disastrous industry !!

  • @Waltham1892
    @Waltham1892 5 лет назад +368

    3000$ a month?
    That's depressing.

    • @Huebo_
      @Huebo_ 5 лет назад +4

      this cost will be absorbed by insurance companies (mostly)

    • @Jumptohistory
      @Jumptohistory 5 лет назад +1

      This can be a major adverse effect.

    • @johnjriggsarchery2457
      @johnjriggsarchery2457 5 лет назад +2

      @@Huebo_ And covered by other people's premiums. The only place "free money" exists is in the minds of Bernie Sanders voters.

    • @Waltham1892
      @Waltham1892 5 лет назад

      @@johnjriggsarchery2457 One Archer to another; real Archer's don't troll...

    • @wtfronsson
      @wtfronsson 5 лет назад +5

      The price is a complete joke. This is the same chemical already being used for anesthetics. The anesthetic doses are of course heavier than therapeutic ones. Sure there is going to be an excuse that this is a special kind of ketamine. And of course it's total bs.

  • @illustriouschin
    @illustriouschin 5 лет назад +633

    drug companies just pull those prices out of their asses.

    • @itaybron
      @itaybron 5 лет назад +17

      ain't that the truth

    • @rogerschrager3589
      @rogerschrager3589 5 лет назад +33

      Lot cheaper if you buy it on the street. Of course your never sure what you r getting. 😊

    • @xZangHD
      @xZangHD 5 лет назад +15

      @@rogerschrager3589 test kits man

    • @gardenhead92
      @gardenhead92 5 лет назад +45

      Nah they calculate what will earn them maximum profit

    • @jhoughjr1
      @jhoughjr1 5 лет назад

      actually no.

  • @Megaghost_
    @Megaghost_ 5 лет назад +635

    When it says "We don't fully understand how ketamine works" keep in mind the same applies to all antidepressant drugs on the market for the past 4 decades. There might be theories but not a concrete answer to that question.
    Edit: I want to make clear that even if a drug is not fully understood (e.g. anesthetics) doesn't mean it can't be used as medicine. The point of this post is to not discourage people looking for other options of treatment, quite the contrary.

    • @Future_Pheonix
      @Future_Pheonix 5 лет назад +5

      That's exactly what I was thinking while watching this... (and the reason I stopped taking mine three times before and haven't taken them again since the last time)

    • @TheAlison1456
      @TheAlison1456 5 лет назад +4

      Why are things whose workings are not understood approved?

    • @hpensive
      @hpensive 5 лет назад +19

      Yet they still won't legalize or De-regulate psilocybin, which does everything the ket is supposed to do.

    • @mr.k7457
      @mr.k7457 5 лет назад +8

      Not really though lol SSRIs regulate serotonin receptors in order to create a new baseline level in the brain.

    • @magisterrleth3129
      @magisterrleth3129 5 лет назад +6

      Yeah, we don't even know why pot does what it does. All we know is that it acts on cannabinoid receptors.

  • @GrandmasterFerg
    @GrandmasterFerg 5 лет назад +122

    And 20 euro for a gram off a dealer...
    Who are the real criminals again?

    • @welshzecorgi7903
      @welshzecorgi7903 5 лет назад +18

      Depends on who you ask.
      Poor people = Rich people are criminals.
      Rich people = Poor people are criminals.

    • @emerson-sheaapril8555
      @emerson-sheaapril8555 5 лет назад

      @@welshzecorgi7903 stereotype much?

    • @welshzecorgi7903
      @welshzecorgi7903 5 лет назад +3

      @@emerson-sheaapril8555 All the time! It's cool, fun, has what plants crave and great sound quality!

    • @IamMissPronounced
      @IamMissPronounced 5 лет назад +4

      @@welshzecorgi7903 let's look at who hoards the money

    • @hunterflowerson4460
      @hunterflowerson4460 5 лет назад +1

      WelshZeCorgi That’s way too generalizing and both sides are not equal.

  • @jimmyshrimbe9361
    @jimmyshrimbe9361 5 лет назад +351

    Yeah, that's too expensive. People will long term medication resistant depression have a very very high probability of being low income.

    • @xboxfullauto1000
      @xboxfullauto1000 5 лет назад +4

      Don't, Jim only two solutions, get out of the situation ur in, or change the way you look at life.

    • @eidolor
      @eidolor 5 лет назад +72

      xboxfellatio1000 only one solution, get your undergrad, pass the mcat, go to med school, get a degree, finish residency, then get your license before giving false medical advice so at least somebody can sue you and get something worthwhile out of the waste of time spent listening to your baseless nonsense.

    • @kswannie
      @kswannie 5 лет назад +19

      @@xboxfullauto1000 the neckbeard gamer is an oracle now

    • @xboxfullauto1000
      @xboxfullauto1000 5 лет назад +2

      I'm a neckbeard? You can see through monitors? xDDD

    • @xboxfullauto1000
      @xboxfullauto1000 5 лет назад +2

      I'm not allowed to comment about anything that I don't have a degree in. Love your logic, you're a bright guy!

  • @MrsSaxophonegirl
    @MrsSaxophonegirl 5 лет назад +42

    My mom got a compassionate release for Ketamine, as an IV though. She’s had depression for decades and this is the first treatment that has actually helped. She even tried TMS (transcranial magnetic stimulation) and this has helped her the most BY FAR. I’m really excited for this to be a treatment option. My sister will probably end up doing this treatment too.

    • @owengreene2026
      @owengreene2026 5 лет назад +4

      MrsSaxophonegirl I’m so happy for your family! People in my fam have dealt with mental health struggles and it’s great to hear your mom had success with it.

    • @3possumsinatrenchcoat
      @3possumsinatrenchcoat 5 лет назад

      my mom's doing the reverse, actually! Been doing the IV ket for like 2 yrs and it's decent, but super cost prohibitive (even with discount, can only afford one treatment every 6+ weeks, instead of the recommended 2-3 per dose) and so over time it's gotten less helpful for her. we've convinced her to give the magnets a chance though. if all else fails, back to the ket. :p
      best of luck to you guys!

  • @TheScholesie09
    @TheScholesie09 5 лет назад +167

    Esketamine, a form of Ketamine in the same family as Bisketamine, Spaghetamine, and Regretamine.

  • @veryberry39
    @veryberry39 5 лет назад +636

    *Me:* "This sounds promising! Nothing else has worked..."
    *Hank:* "$4,500 to $6,500"
    *Me:* "...nevermind, guess I'll just stay depressed"

    • @YellowPenetrator
      @YellowPenetrator 5 лет назад +7

      Self Treatments are always very risky but you could theoretically try DXM and every Source I know says once a month is without risk of neurotoxicity

    • @RazorbackPT
      @RazorbackPT 5 лет назад +21

      It's really stupid and unfair that it's illegal, but I recommend you try to find real ketamine. Magic Mushrooms also show promise in curing depression and are probably easier to find.

    • @swedboot1
      @swedboot1 5 лет назад +28

      a gram costs between 20 and 40 euro when you get it your self. a dose would be max 10mg/20mg so that is like a month of 2 times a week. WTF with the legal prices

    • @ekwmhroucg
      @ekwmhroucg 5 лет назад +8

      or just microdose lsd, its cheaper and helps a lot of people with depression too and is in active research for a medical use :)

    • @FightingPinguin
      @FightingPinguin 5 лет назад +10

      That price is depressing...

  • @Kyle496
    @Kyle496 5 лет назад +81

    What!? A hallucinogen helping with depression!? WHO KNEW!?
    Oh wait, loads of people did. Thanks US govt for finally coming to the same conclusion many of us did years ago.

    • @1992ilikepie
      @1992ilikepie 5 лет назад +19

      Yeah next they're going to discover that mushrooms have real medical property and the sky is blue.

    • @jeaniebird999
      @jeaniebird999 5 лет назад +3

      @@1992ilikepie
      They already have! Psilocybin will be on the market, soon! Probably for seizure medicine or one of the other things there's an active medical study being done on them for, but as long as it's on the market, doctors will be able to start prescribing it!

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow 5 лет назад +1

      It's a dissociative. Hallucinogen is an unbrella term, like "upper" or
      "downer".

    • @LuCkiiEsZz
      @LuCkiiEsZz 5 лет назад +2

      @@mycelia_ow no
      Pshycedelic means mind expanding in Greek Roman
      Pshyce is mind
      And delic comes from delos to expand
      They are tools not drug.
      A drug force's the brain to regulate chemical flow to neurons
      Pshycedelics open all floodgates and expand the bandwidth you perceive the world on...its not a upper or downer lmao

    • @LuCkiiEsZz
      @LuCkiiEsZz 5 лет назад +2

      @@mycelia_ow muscimol is a dissociative used by the reindeer people in Siberia
      Also known for the story of Santa claus
      Google amanita muscaria and you will find out

  • @ShamaticWow
    @ShamaticWow 5 лет назад +157

    4500 dollars? For Ketamine? U WOT M8

    • @internetgnom8568
      @internetgnom8568 5 лет назад +14

      ShamaticWow somehow america has to get money for the war on drugs you know, as we all know every drug on this planet is pure evil, and what better way to do so than denying poor people treatment(involving drugs with much worse side effects and less effective actual use) by making the prices so ridiculous that no normal working person can afford it?

    • @ThatThing1675
      @ThatThing1675 5 лет назад +8

      You think that they would've legalised it if they couldn't make insane profits off it?

    • @kristinagelaziute1100
      @kristinagelaziute1100 5 лет назад +7

      You need to pay extra for your trip sitter I guess

    • @Nosirrbro
      @Nosirrbro 5 лет назад +1

      John Doe yeah no wonder it “somehow” got special treatment by the FDA.

    • @Nor1MAL
      @Nor1MAL 5 лет назад +1

      This has to do a lot with how medical patents in the US is handled, which is apparently done by the FDA. How is changing colors and/or appearance of medication an improvement that warrants patents to be renewed? Yet it has happened over and over again; so much, countries has actually rebelled regarding some patents and just flat out ignored it (India and a certain cancer medication that is several decades old)!
      So a short answer, corruption! Laws needs to be changed or enforced; which is often hindered by a corruption some fail to see as corruption; lobbying, that is only beneficial for the group they represent usually!
      FDA has been instrumental to food safety in the US if not safety in general; but now, at least the part of FDA that deal with medicine, is corrupt and/or incompetent...

  • @charliemoll5435
    @charliemoll5435 5 лет назад +238

    Can’t believe lil pump got his own anti-depressant

    • @isbilen1000
      @isbilen1000 5 лет назад +11

      I was just about to comment Esketitamine as well, dammit!

    • @PyrophileGaming
      @PyrophileGaming 5 лет назад +12

      ESSSKETIT

    • @attillathehun3487
      @attillathehun3487 5 лет назад +4

      Maybe he Was test piggie and tried to tell us without getting suspiciouse... But we too dumb to get it....
      Just a theory

    • @argoneonoble
      @argoneonoble 5 лет назад

      Benzodiazepines are not anesthetics. Don't take drugs if you don't know their classification and the dangers that come with it.

    • @attillathehun3487
      @attillathehun3487 5 лет назад +3

      @@argoneonoble what are you about?? You think ketamin is a benzo?
      Or?

  • @Tautolonaut
    @Tautolonaut 5 лет назад +111

    What I used to feel for a few days after taking K was a sense of reconciliation. A feeling of "ah, world, you're insane but I can't stay mad at you". Not yer average hangover.

    • @YellowPenetrator
      @YellowPenetrator 5 лет назад +11

      Waking up the Next Morning always feels refreshing

    • @Tautolonaut
      @Tautolonaut 5 лет назад +6

      @@YellowPenetrator Ah, your use of the present tense broke my old heart a little :)

    • @thingamabitch
      @thingamabitch 5 лет назад +4

      @@Tautolonaut Why? It's less addictive than alcohol, so they're probably not an addict or anything.
      Edit: I read that you can overdose on ketamine, but it's hard to do and doesn't happen very often. Ketamine is fine as long as you're safe and responsible so I don't get sad that someone is using ketamine unless I think they're an irresponsible dumbass, lol.

    • @Tautolonaut
      @Tautolonaut 5 лет назад +9

      @@thingamabitch lol. I meant "I wish I could still get hold of it" ;)

    • @Nor1MAL
      @Nor1MAL 5 лет назад

      I'm considering just going to a vet and ask for one! If I'm asking for less than what is used for recreational use, perhaps it can work? Or is the ketamine vets use not certified for human use?

  • @xck
    @xck 5 лет назад +350

    Special K is great, especially for depression (and breakfast)

  • @thehorriblebright
    @thehorriblebright 5 лет назад +61

    So glad to live in Sweden where you never have to pay more than approx. €250/year for prescription medication.

    • @baykutTr
      @baykutTr 5 лет назад +6

      @Ronnyqt land of free

    • @hunterflowerson4460
      @hunterflowerson4460 5 лет назад +4

      Jealous.
      I really hope we can elect Bernie Sanders, he’s currently the front runner and supports single payer and universal healthcare. I would be proud of my country if we can do that

    • @amicableenmity9820
      @amicableenmity9820 5 лет назад +1

      Great, now stop bragging. We're depressed enough.

  • @eidolor
    @eidolor 5 лет назад +224

    Sorry how much? I’ll stick with horse tranq from the stables next door thx

    • @seratonin7004
      @seratonin7004 5 лет назад +1

      It's not the same type. ...

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen 5 лет назад +30

      Because nothing soothes depression quite like crippling medical debt

    • @papperdakVG
      @papperdakVG 5 лет назад +6

      I sexually identify as a horse can I get some ket for my depression? ruclips.net/video/l75NcBXz0fw/видео.html

    • @joeschultz2
      @joeschultz2 5 лет назад +3

      @@papperdakVG: Taking the horse medicine might not be so bad if you rmember how much larger horses are than people. The average thoroughbred weighs 1100 lbs, or 500 kg. So just divide your own weight by the horse's weight, and that's the percentage of the horse tablet that is scaled down for you. If you weight 160lbs, then 160/1100 = 0.145, or one seventh. If you try it and end up dead or living as a turnip in an institution, I don't know nuttin'.
      PS: The above is intended as satire and should not be considered actual medical advice.

    • @theophilusthistler5885
      @theophilusthistler5885 5 лет назад +5

      Ketamine has long been used as a sedative / tranq on both humans and horses, hamsters, dogs and many animals inbetween.
      Even as a vetranary anaesthetic though once as a human anaesthetic if I remember correctly.
      Saw docos on organised crime in NE USA NY/IL/NJ using it to fix horse and greyhound races.
      All I know is thay it's great sometimes.
      Once it knocked me out longer than GHB or roofies on a long toad trip, another I couldn't contain the new felt energy, built two computers from my parts bin, cleanes my flat both inside and outside overnight and still found time to shave all my body hair off @ 5am.
      I wish the "upper" chance didn't exist though.

  • @nafrost2787
    @nafrost2787 5 лет назад +80

    Why depression is so complicated it’s so depressing

    • @fryricelover3358
      @fryricelover3358 5 лет назад +2

      Nafrost not enough research into yet and the whole mental illness thing is still pretty foreign. Just think about it, mental illness wasnt even a concept back in the 60s

    • @dylanmorrow4595
      @dylanmorrow4595 5 лет назад

      That’s a sign of depression...

    • @xboxfullauto1000
      @xboxfullauto1000 5 лет назад

      It really isnt for most people!

    • @somefuckstolemynick
      @somefuckstolemynick 5 лет назад +1

      FryRiceLover wooosh

    • @post-leftluddite
      @post-leftluddite 5 лет назад +1

      That's because of the shortcomings of the industry in general, we've had an extremely effective treatment for depression for many years, but because of stigma and moral authoritarianism, people are not allowed to use them: opiates. Jist google "treatment resistant depression and opiates" and you will find numerous studies where individuals with treatment resistant depression where every prescribable antidepressant has failed them, and then they're giving an opiate...several of these studies report "complete remission of depression in as little as 1 hour after the first dose" and efficacy reaching 80-90% , whereas typicql SSRI's and SNRIs at best achieve 40%-50%. FYI, every consenting adult should be allowed to consume whatever medication they want if it makes their life worth living again, and anyone who believes that they should have the authority to tell another adult what they can or cant do with their own body (especially considering that people getting high has no effect on anyone's life but their own) is a fascist and is completely antithetical to freedom. "I should be able to tell another adult what they can do with their own body, even though whatever they do with their own body is of absolutely no consequence to my own life"....that thinking is the definition of irrational and insane

  • @firemaker68
    @firemaker68 5 лет назад +21

    My wife started getting Ketamine infusions in December and in her own words “it saved my life”. We were both extremely skeptical but when used right, Ketamine can be an amazing tool in fighting treatment resistant depression!

    • @jenniferfree4144
      @jenniferfree4144 5 лет назад

      How long has she had relief? I am looking to get this soon.

    • @Nor1MAL
      @Nor1MAL 5 лет назад

      I'm also curious about the same Jennifer Free is. Also in which form was it administered, IV or tablet form?

    • @rainydaylady6596
      @rainydaylady6596 5 лет назад

      I'm curious. Does your insurance cover the cost? Or do you live in a country that lets it's people get medications at reasonable prices?

    • @Nor1MAL
      @Nor1MAL 5 лет назад +1

      @@rainydaylady6596 I live in a country that get medications at a reasonable cost. Healthcare that is not cosmetic etc, will max cost me $277 USD a year, then everything is free. So if this were to cost $1000 here, I would get $723 in return etc :)

  • @AmazingHaze420
    @AmazingHaze420 5 лет назад +12

    I wonder when people will pay attention to psilocybin to treat depression and MDMA to treat (along with a therapy) post traumatic stress disorder

    • @Jumptohistory
      @Jumptohistory 5 лет назад +2

      Maybe they will if this esketamine sells well.

    • @vixxcelacea2778
      @vixxcelacea2778 5 лет назад +2

      Blame the public as well as war on drugs BS. Anything that is considered in the illegal family that was famous, like LSD, mushrooms, molly etc is gonna be really tough.
      Even though all of them have proven to help with depression with little side effects when used medically, especially molly since it doesn't even cause a bad drug trip in its street form.
      Any and all substances should be able to be used in medicine. We already use opioids constantly, but most people don't know about it since it usually goes under a different name.

  • @CheliCheli89
    @CheliCheli89 5 лет назад +4

    “Because that’s so much more affordable” 3:06 lol

  • @Stepbrohelp
    @Stepbrohelp 5 лет назад +57

    As someone with severe treatment-resistant depression this is actually really promising. No joke I was thinking earlier today that I thought I didn’t respond well to things like Prozac and lexapro because it takes such a long time to take effect that I often get unmotivated and will occasionally miss a dose. This quick-acting ketamine sounds very promising.

    • @jacobrael9872
      @jacobrael9872 5 лет назад +5

      @@HerbaMachina psilocybin would need to be taken with a very experienced sitter because things can get super intense and scary and if a trip goes south can make someone's depression get worse or turn into something existential

    • @buddyguy4723
      @buddyguy4723 5 лет назад +3

      @@jacobrael9872 the details are in the dosages

    • @mr.k7457
      @mr.k7457 5 лет назад +6

      You have to actually take them if you want them to work bro

    • @akehapkap6143
      @akehapkap6143 5 лет назад

      It will go to hell.

    • @KittyFister
      @KittyFister 5 лет назад +7

      @@jacobrael9872 Egodeath is actually like having a weight lifted off your shoulders when you come around. I had a hellish trip years ago and the introspection helped my anxiety. Every day since I thank my lucky stars for the still ground beneath my feet.
      Shrooms are no gateway drug. I'll never touch them again.

  • @jadeyfamous
    @jadeyfamous 5 лет назад +11

    If anyone wants to read further about this there is information in the March issue of Nature journal.

  • @CyclicSupporter
    @CyclicSupporter 5 лет назад +1

    My doctor was talking about this at my last visit, now I'm seeing it everywhere. The biggest issue is insurance isn't covering it yet. Which is disconcerting.

  • @kylepalmer9432
    @kylepalmer9432 5 лет назад +62

    $4,500? Your healthcare system is so backwards!
    A quick Google search and I find that on the street the average price is around $30 per gram. (UK)

    • @hunterflowerson4460
      @hunterflowerson4460 5 лет назад +17

      Tell me about it. It’s disgusting watching family members suffer for the profit of large corporations

    • @Yooo-ph5zx
      @Yooo-ph5zx 5 лет назад

      It's just sad how rare ketamine is here in finland :s

    • @lovelyjanuary
      @lovelyjanuary 4 года назад

      Yea but YOUR healthcare system doesn’t cover it, either. Not to say that it isn’t *insane and extremely infuriating* that it makes more sense just to go buy it (illegally but justifiably) off the street and that $4000 PER TREATMENT (prescribed twice a week at this point) isn’t egregious and nauseating. It’s just that you can’t live in a heathcare glass house and throw stones like that without being somewhat disingenuous.

  • @IamMissPronounced
    @IamMissPronounced 5 лет назад +63

    Out of the 33 developed countries in the world, 32 of them have universal healthcare.
    And America has $3000 nasal spray

    • @kiroropupper3914
      @kiroropupper3914 5 лет назад +1

      Hey don't talk about Sprix like that. It's a hard working little spray :(

    • @youmaycallmeken
      @youmaycallmeken 5 лет назад +2

      How does that comment make sense? Do any countries cover this NEW nasal spray under their healthcare? Which country develops such new treatments? (I do not accept such statistics -33 and 32- without accountable sources.)

    • @YankeeOscarEchoLima
      @YankeeOscarEchoLima 5 лет назад +4

      @@youmaycallmeken Countries with universal health-care (2018): www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-universal-health-care.html
      Granted no country's health-care system covers NEW things immediately, that's near impossible, but most will add health and life-saving benefits eventually.

    • @jumpierwolf
      @jumpierwolf 4 года назад +1

      @@youmaycallmeken ketamine is so extensively used for anesthesia and can be literally found anywhere in the world for dirt cheap. Just because they approved a drug for another use and remarketed it doesn't make it better.

  • @Bolt99K
    @Bolt99K 5 лет назад +35

    Rad, any ruling that is anti drug war is a good ruling. And if it’s helping people then thats even better.

    • @lemon93
      @lemon93 5 лет назад

      It's not street ketamine is still illegal, it's just this specific isotomer

    • @Bolt99K
      @Bolt99K 5 лет назад +2

      lemonman93
      Obviously.
      But just the fact that an illegal drug got approved by the government for testing is a big move against the drug war.

    • @eliad6543
      @eliad6543 5 лет назад

      @@Bolt99K Not if it's beneficial for people to get it off the street even if they actually need it to cure depression.

  • @nonstar321
    @nonstar321 5 лет назад +43

    Lil pump won't be happy about this esketamine

    • @TheCorrectionist1984
      @TheCorrectionist1984 5 лет назад

      Explain this reference to me. He's a rapper right?

    • @nonstar321
      @nonstar321 5 лет назад

      @@TheCorrectionist1984 yes sir and his uses the adlib esketee in his music

  • @griffithandy2950
    @griffithandy2950 5 лет назад +14

    I want the undisputed right to explore my own conciousness and the limits therein.

  • @russ18uk
    @russ18uk 5 лет назад +14

    $6,000 LMAO. Just go to your dealer

  • @TheFlaptrapper
    @TheFlaptrapper 5 лет назад +13

    It works so well that big pharma needs to make it profitable

  • @zoicon5
    @zoicon5 5 лет назад +8

    $5000 a month for something that did no better than a placebo in 2 of 3 trials?

  • @PyreVulpimorph
    @PyreVulpimorph 5 лет назад +9

    Now I'm just remembering that once scene from _Armageddon_ (the Bruce Willis michalbaysplosion movie) about how some of the oil rig guys tested positive for ketamine.
    "Sedatives are used all the time, doc."
    "Well this one's USED ON HORSES!"
    xD

  • @cpu6850
    @cpu6850 5 лет назад +63

    ESKEEETTTAAAAAMINE

  • @dillmo28
    @dillmo28 5 лет назад +7

    it's barbaric that we take people's freedom away for peacefully enjoying a substance

  • @chloepekel
    @chloepekel 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you! So many doctors think im being dramatic when I say how bad I reacted to antidepressants and they have never helped me!

  • @BRUXXUS
    @BRUXXUS 5 лет назад +6

    As someone battling a UC flare right now, the ultrasound therapy is super interesting!
    I don't see why the testing is going to take soooo long since ultrasound seems like a safe and non-invasive treatment.

  • @6alecapristrudel
    @6alecapristrudel 5 лет назад +3

    "We don't know what the long term effects are" Well if drugs weren't virtually banned from research we might.
    And who would buy it for 100x the street price even if it's legal?

  • @ziminvader8411
    @ziminvader8411 5 лет назад +4

    I don’t know what will depress me more, depression itself or not being able to pay for the treatment 🤔

  • @LuinTathren
    @LuinTathren 5 лет назад

    This is very encouraging.

  • @tinaoom
    @tinaoom 5 лет назад +2

    I know someone who got an IV infusion and it got rid of their fibromyalgia symptoms for a whole year. As a fibromyalgia sufferer, the future of ketamine is really exciting to me. I hope they keep working with it!

  • @michaelteret4763
    @michaelteret4763 5 лет назад +5

    Ketamine treatment for depression would give me a newfound sense of hope, if it didn’t cost as much as a car...

  • @ArchJJanes
    @ArchJJanes 5 лет назад +30

    Very interesting news about Ketamine and Depression.

    • @TheAlison1456
      @TheAlison1456 5 лет назад +11

      Very interesting Comment about very interesting News.

    • @pixx3461
      @pixx3461 5 лет назад +3

      Are you like......a robot?

    • @ClandestineMerkaba
      @ClandestineMerkaba 5 лет назад

      @@Danny-jl2sd I think their point was, why even comment then?

  • @lauragadille3384
    @lauragadille3384 5 лет назад +14

    I wonder if the ultrasound can help with chronic back pain

    • @lovelyjanuary
      @lovelyjanuary 4 года назад

      This is a LITTLE extrapolated, but my French Bulldog has had two major events where she suffered from severely ruptured discs in her spinal column (both of which were so significant that they caused her to almost immediately become paralyzed in her back legs and lower half 😢) after the two intensive surgical procedures intended to restore the function in her lower extremities and relieve the pressure and unbelievable pain (which thank goodness they both did and with much physical therapy and rehab afterwards she is nearly back to “close to normal” lol) the vet recommended that we do several treatments of laser therapy for her to help with the repair/ healing and inflammatory reaction in the injured/post-surgical area of her back- and even though it was with much incredulity ON HER PART (she hated the “doggles” lol! but they were hilarious) it really provided a very significantly intervening assistance to her recovery and it was noticeable how much it clearly helped with the relief of her inflammation just from how much better she clearly felt and how much more active she was able to be afterwards. It might be that the ultrasound therapy could work in a similarly restorative way for sufferers of chronic back pain. 🤷🏻‍♀️💕

  • @nataliemaxey7796
    @nataliemaxey7796 5 лет назад

    As a person who has tried this at a state of emergency in my life concerning depression, THIS WORKS SO WELL. It started worked immediately and for two weeks I just felt so normal like my depression was cured idk how to explain it but this works so well and I’m so happy that people are paying more attention to it

  • @pausmth
    @pausmth 5 лет назад +12

    *sigh* and eskatmine is really just ketamine... Stupid purification steps getting companies all their money...

  • @nargacuga05
    @nargacuga05 5 лет назад +3

    So what you’re saying is i should probably just get the non prescription version

    • @lovelyjanuary
      @lovelyjanuary 4 года назад

      Lololol I love that “non-prescription” title that you gave it- not at all untrue and honestly, I’m not mad at it. 😉💕

  • @verdatum
    @verdatum 5 лет назад +1

    woooooooooooooooooooow. As someone with treatment resistant depression, this is fascinating, but at the same time, I think I'm gonna wait before trying this out. Excellent episode; thank you for doing the research.

  • @leekimjinyoon4473
    @leekimjinyoon4473 5 лет назад

    Need this

  • @lilliana1605
    @lilliana1605 5 лет назад +5

    When my 4 year old broke his arm katamine was used as an anesthetic so he wouldn't feel the pain it's interesting to hear its going to be used for depression

    • @SquirrelASMR
      @SquirrelASMR 5 лет назад +5

      Lmao you euthanized your kid!?

    • @lilliana1605
      @lilliana1605 5 лет назад +1

      @@SquirrelASMR lol I can should have reworded that haha I get it

    • @ClandestineMerkaba
      @ClandestineMerkaba 5 лет назад +1

      @@SquirrelASMR Hey, he couldn't race anymore! Had to send 'im to the glue factory!

    • @SquirrelASMR
      @SquirrelASMR 5 лет назад +1

      @@ClandestineMerkaba lolol

  • @Zhark159632
    @Zhark159632 5 лет назад +13

    Welcome to the US, where feeling hopeless puts you in astronomical debt!

    • @TheFanat23may
      @TheFanat23may 5 лет назад +2

      Nathan “damn, why is there so much drug related crime?”

  • @BrokebackBob
    @BrokebackBob 5 лет назад +2

    Ketamine is a generic drug, but to get it into non-generic status they flipped the molecule 180 degrees to make esketamine for which they can charge ANYTHING THEY WANT FOR 7 YEARS. This is what they did with citalopram (Celexa) an SSRI antidepressant. When its patent ran out they flipped it into escitalopram (Lexapro) and bang the price went up and the patent was good for another 7 years, so in total, they got 14 years of patent protection.

    • @ginnyjollykidd
      @ginnyjollykidd 5 лет назад

      Do you mean they made a chiral change in the molecule to make it mirror image but not superimposable onto the original molecule?

  • @ErgoCogita
    @ErgoCogita 5 лет назад

    Makes sense to me. Way back in the way back I used to keep a little Ketamine powder in stock for when I was doing a coke and it ran out. Instead of lapsing into craving more coke the K took the edge off the come down, it also seemed to markedly reduce the subsequent depression the next day while my dopamine production was on the fritz.

  • @amyx231
    @amyx231 5 лет назад +16

    Oh great. Special K repackaged at original brand name Abilify prices. The street value of this just shot up.

  • @jayw6034
    @jayw6034 5 лет назад +3

    Lol, all the concerns "doctors" had for this new drug are the exact things that they either ignore or don't bother finding out about all the ordinarily prescribed anti depressants.

  • @rickharold69
    @rickharold69 5 лет назад

    Super awesome!

  • @EmilyJelassi
    @EmilyJelassi 5 лет назад

    The ultrasound part is so interesting! Very much needed too.. sure, there are lots of drugs for inflammatory diseases, but none of them work well. When the results are released, please do a follow-up video!!

  • @sapphirII
    @sapphirII 5 лет назад +5

    A dear friend of mine suffers from both arthritis and an auto-immune disorder as she have psoriatic arthritis. She have been diagnoses for few years now. She's only 27, and she needs a cane.
    The ultrasound may be useful for her. I hope so.

  • @Surrealiantx
    @Surrealiantx 5 лет назад +11

    If these treatments are a solution, imagine the millions of lives that would improve

    • @JohnDoe-xx8yw
      @JohnDoe-xx8yw 5 лет назад +3

      If they work AND don't cost the thousands that Spravato does right now. Was worried about that

    • @phoenixrising9352
      @phoenixrising9352 5 лет назад

      John Doe
      Yeah, that’s why There’s something called insurance.

    • @JohnDoe-xx8yw
      @JohnDoe-xx8yw 5 лет назад

      @@phoenixrising9352 Insurance can only cover so much, $6500 a month for medication is much more than most companies will be willing to cover

    • @phoenixrising9352
      @phoenixrising9352 5 лет назад

      John Doe
      Yeah agreed, still a step in the right direction, this is for people who have already tried many drugs with no success.

    • @JohnDoe-xx8yw
      @JohnDoe-xx8yw 5 лет назад

      @@phoenixrising9352 Oh it absolutely is, both for psychiatric medication and the FDA honestly. It's a massive step. And I know, I actually have treatment resistant depression myself. Currently trying my fifth medication

  • @fourcatsandagarden
    @fourcatsandagarden 5 лет назад

    General PSA on medications - if you have insurance (in the US) and your doctor prescribes new to market meds, make sure you contact your insurance to determine if its covered before going to a pharmacy and especially before paying for it and taking it home. New medications are rarely covered right away. If they're going to be covered, it will often take several months for the plan to ok it to be added to the formulary. HOWEVER! You may be able to get an exception. So don't be afraid to check with them and see what your options are. (This is true for completely new meds to the market, like this one, as well as when a generic finally comes to market for brand name meds.)

  • @lydiaives733
    @lydiaives733 5 лет назад

    I really hope it reaches here in Australia and helps me

  • @theeel8981
    @theeel8981 5 лет назад +11

    Finally, a cure for my crippling depression

    • @cherrybomb6451
      @cherrybomb6451 5 лет назад

      Lol party monster

    • @fuzinonzlot
      @fuzinonzlot 5 лет назад +3

      It shrinks parts of your brain, and they haven't figured out what doses to give, so it's arbitrary at this point. You're better off with MDMA therapy and psilocybin afterwards.

    • @xboxfullauto1000
      @xboxfullauto1000 5 лет назад +2

      Medication wont solve but only numb your depression, im sorry :'(

    • @hectorvega621
      @hectorvega621 5 лет назад

      @@xboxfullauto1000 That's why I reject my medication.

    • @apricotcharms4126
      @apricotcharms4126 5 лет назад

      @@fuzinonzlot don't forget cannabis!

  • @ArunShankartheRealOne
    @ArunShankartheRealOne 5 лет назад +18

    If I have $6500 to spare every month, I won't be having depression in the first place :P

  • @thedrytortuga7421
    @thedrytortuga7421 5 лет назад +1

    Supposedly there are doctors out there that will prescribe generic ketamine "off-label". I'm trying to find one right now....

  • @mkatseal
    @mkatseal 5 лет назад +1

    I've now known two people who have taken ketamine for depression. Watching how it seemed to affect them has made me very wary of it. One had a psychotic episode, the other also seemed less in touch with reality but not full blown psychosis. It did seem to help their depression though.

  • @splashmt99
    @splashmt99 5 лет назад +8

    if it grows new brain connections, then would it help with alzheimers? as a work around to
    the plaqued-compromised connections?

    • @ginnyjollykidd
      @ginnyjollykidd 5 лет назад +4

      I would love to see *properly conducted* clinical trials and research on that. Peer reviewed and all that

    • @Jumptohistory
      @Jumptohistory 5 лет назад

      Memantine blocks NMDA receptors in a different way than Ketamine and is used for Alzheimer's. I've never heard of the use of Ketamine on dementia though.

    • @ClandestineMerkaba
      @ClandestineMerkaba 5 лет назад

      Strangely, a chemical found in apples and their juice has been shown to reduce plaque.
      Further, compounds in certain mushrooms, like *Lion's mane Mushroom*, have been clinically proven to cue neurogenesis. Same with some of the psychedelic fungi variants, though the MOA and effect is a bit different.
      Pure organic apple cider, lion's mane extract, psylocibin microdosing as well as cannabis(cbd emphasis) supplementation would undoubtedly have demonstrable effects and I wish I could conduct the tests and studies to unequivocally prove it.

    • @ClandestineMerkaba
      @ClandestineMerkaba 5 лет назад

      *Correction, or rather addition- the antioxidants in apples and similar food items can alleviate, or help the brain to compensate, for some of the oxidative stress caused by beta amyloid plaques.
      Also, perhaps most strange of all(to some), music therapy has been shown to be extremely effective in some cases at helping severe Dementia patients recover lucidity for brief periods. It quite literally triggers memory pathways connected to when the person heard or enjoyed the music earlier in their lives.

    • @ClandestineMerkaba
      @ClandestineMerkaba 5 лет назад

      "Sonic time-capsule"

  • @FMRovers
    @FMRovers 5 лет назад +7

    But the REAL Q is..... What happens when you stop using Keta????????

    • @dainaburk8204
      @dainaburk8204 5 лет назад +2

      FMR depression and The government will cause worse depression and worse anxiety 🥴

    • @FMRovers
      @FMRovers 5 лет назад

      @@dainaburk8204 only if you let it in

  • @dryfto7222
    @dryfto7222 5 лет назад

    More pharmacy/medical videos please!

  • @LordBrittish
    @LordBrittish 5 лет назад

    I remember this one from college (no, I didn’t go to medical school). Good times.

  • @dancewithme2278
    @dancewithme2278 5 лет назад +3

    I’m really confused on my existence rn.. just recently got out the hospital.. had surgery.. and I have no way to get my medicine.. so I’m stressing out honestly might just go back to the hospital honestly bout to just walk in traffic.. I’m so confused

  • @rinaxstar
    @rinaxstar 5 лет назад +3

    gregory house has entered the chat

  • @JPMJPM
    @JPMJPM 5 лет назад

    I have been getting intravenous ketamine infusions for more than two years through my doctor. It really works. I only pay $350 per treatment (about once every three months) and $85 per month on the intranasal maintenance drug.

  • @RWAsur
    @RWAsur 5 лет назад

    !!!!!! I have rheumatoid arthritis, I am VERY interested in this study with the spleen...!

  • @DemonAndLucky
    @DemonAndLucky 5 лет назад +22

    👍 I agree, now I can tie my purring cats to my hands so their purring can heal me. 👍

  • @zucchini_zucchini
    @zucchini_zucchini 5 лет назад +22

    Ahoy Spongebob, I overdosed on ketamine and I'm going to die arghargharghargh

    • @ktm250fracer
      @ktm250fracer 5 лет назад

      I feel special for understanding this reference 😂😂

  • @jumpierwolf
    @jumpierwolf 4 года назад +2

    What's with all these restrictions, something like oxycodone and hydrocodone are way more dangerous but are far easier to get your hands on.

  • @Flargenyargen
    @Flargenyargen 5 лет назад +1

    I was given ketamine when they inserted a tube in my chest for a collapsed lung. It was the wildest disassociated three weeks of my life. I woke up 25 minutes later. I've been confused how it could be a party drug ever since.

  • @woundedmonk1884
    @woundedmonk1884 5 лет назад +4

    The brand name should have been 'esketiiit'

  • @haydensmith1295
    @haydensmith1295 5 лет назад +3

    I didn't know Lil Pump worked at the FDA

  • @rottweiler107able
    @rottweiler107able 5 лет назад

    Can you please do a video on metal foam and/or Amorphous metal

  • @user-ge4uk9ui8y
    @user-ge4uk9ui8y 5 лет назад +1

    Can I pre-order them?

  • @balthiersgirl2658
    @balthiersgirl2658 5 лет назад +6

    The price is disgusting thank god for the NHS

    • @Max-vb6le
      @Max-vb6le 5 лет назад

      balthiers girl up downhyihydrocodoneoooooioooooooo

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 5 лет назад

      Germany technically has a multilayer system and we only pay 2-10% more than you Britts and wait 4 weeks more if we send in the bill (because we were impatient).

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk 5 лет назад +2

      :( Can you come and slap some sense into my fellow countrymen who think socialized medicine is evil because how dare we have to help other people who live in a society with us if we don't want to? If everyone I know and love didn't live here, I'd definitely consider moving somewhere better (though probably Norway, not the UK... sorry, Brits!).

  • @quarzonu8726
    @quarzonu8726 5 лет назад +29

    Was Esketamine named after lil pump?

    • @katienoodle6712
      @katienoodle6712 5 лет назад

      Yup

    • @vegetablescankill
      @vegetablescankill 5 лет назад +1

      (S)-Ketamine
      Esketamine

    • @quarzonu8726
      @quarzonu8726 5 лет назад

      マインドPFKNT 0:40

    • @lemon93
      @lemon93 5 лет назад +1

      No it has to with the absolute configuration of S ketamine and R ketamine it has to do with sterochemostry

    • @quarzonu8726
      @quarzonu8726 5 лет назад

      lemonman93 ok, but the drug you physically buy from Spravato is Esketamine

  • @cassandrakarpinski9416
    @cassandrakarpinski9416 5 лет назад

    Very true that we don't know what ketamine does. Always considered an glutamate receptor antagonist only, however in the second half of last year a paper was published showing that in depression ketamine acts as an opioid agonist (small scale cross over double blind study using naloxone to block opioid receptors in one trial and not another)

  • @izzymiozzo
    @izzymiozzo 5 лет назад

    About the ketamine trials cited in the vídeo, could you guys post the links to them?

  • @Jcourtney2000
    @Jcourtney2000 5 лет назад +6

    A full vile of normal ketamine is produced wholesale for less than $3. Drug company is just slightly changing the compound with no added benefits to normal ketamine and charging extortionate prices for it. Someone high up is getting a pay off in the FDA. Hopefully the EU don't follow suit.

    • @viktoryegorov2721
      @viktoryegorov2721 5 лет назад +1

      It takes a surprisingly high amount of money to bring a drug to market, with all of the stability testing/clinical trials etc. that needs to be done thus the high price of the drug

    • @Jcourtney2000
      @Jcourtney2000 5 лет назад +1

      @@viktoryegorov2721 I completely understand that. At the end of the day, most of the drugs we have is due to companies wanting to make money and they have to invest huge amounts of money and need to make it back. So we should be greatfull that these drugs do come to market. What I find sad though is that an available affordable drug already exists (normal ketamine). However, it is not approved despite much research proving its efficacy. Most of the population would simply not be able to afford this treatment. Probably won't happen but a better balance from pharmaceutical companies of ethics over profit would be nice. Even with something such as insulin price hikes in the USA (up to $130) for a drug that been on the market for a long time. The HSE in the UK pays up to £15 pounds for the same drug. No rational behind the increase in the US but increased profits.

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk 5 лет назад +1

      It's not just "slightly changing the compound with no added benefits to normal ketamine". Enantiomers often have very different effects on the body. For a concrete example, look no further than thalidomide. One enantiomer of it is a decent sedative, the other causes severe birth defects. In the case of ketamine, esketamine metabolizes faster than arketamine (so any side effects don't last as long), it is up to 8 times more effective at inhibiting dopamine transporters (so quite a bit more effective at boosting dopamine levels), and doesn't bind to PCP-associated receptors like arketamine does (so fewer PCP-style side effects overall).
      There IS a benefit to doing this. It's still being way overpriced, I agree, but it's not the same as the $3 vial of racemic ketamine and it's not just changed "with no benefits".

    • @Jcourtney2000
      @Jcourtney2000 5 лет назад

      @@IceMetalPunk could you link me to a paper with those results for the efficacy of esketamine over ketamine. I would be quite interested to see that. Thank you

    • @Jcourtney2000
      @Jcourtney2000 5 лет назад

      @@IceMetalPunk However, the high cost will lead to mass self administration of the cheaper alternative for desperate people.

  • @fuzinonzlot
    @fuzinonzlot 5 лет назад +8

    Next in line to get approved: *MDMA*

    • @fuzinonzlot
      @fuzinonzlot 5 лет назад +2

      This is what I'm most excited about for people suffering from PTSD, depression, and other mental health disorders.

    • @jacobrael9872
      @jacobrael9872 5 лет назад +1

      @@fuzinonzlot MDMA taken in a therapy session could be a breakthrough for ptsd treatment

    • @Redsauce101
      @Redsauce101 5 лет назад

      Demitri first plz

    • @ThatThing1675
      @ThatThing1675 5 лет назад +1

      And the price 1000$ a pill xD

    • @fuzinonzlot
      @fuzinonzlot 5 лет назад +1

      @@ThatThing1675 I could get it for 20/25$ a pop on the street.

  • @nicogarciakine
    @nicogarciakine 5 лет назад

    Dear Hank, could you explain more about the cholinergic pathway and the vagus nerve stimulation. I think it deserves more visibility the fact thAt this kind of therapy has a great potential, in the same way that microbiome studies are changing our view of therapeutic use of specific meals with probiotics and prebiotics. For more info there is a MD (Kevin Tracey) in charge of open this field, and his presentations in RUclips are great, besides its implications of this therapy. I'm a Physical Therapist from Chile and also diagnosed with UC, and this neural circuit could be also stimulated transcutaneous, to lower TNF and other inflammatory cytokines (IL1, IL6, IL10) and also promote antiinflammatory ones (IL10). They are proving the mechanisms of how it happens and even a group is doing research with infrared stimulation.
    Great video!

    • @ClandestineMerkaba
      @ClandestineMerkaba 5 лет назад

      Consider CBD for inflammation, and a stack of Choline Bitartrate and Alpha GPC for a comprehensive predrug supplement to aid your body's own acetycholine production.
      Perhaps only semi-related, but also if you're a large indulger of sweets and dairy- particularly high fructose corn syrup products(soda) and Milk, try laying off those for a while, as they both directly cause, and worsen inflammation- which is now suspected too be the underlying cause of almost all chronic illnesses. More veggies may sound cliche, but truly tis the way to go.

  • @Azzarinne
    @Azzarinne 5 лет назад +1

    This means so much to me. 💖
    My husband has severe, treatment-resistant depression, and he had a 6-week course of ketamine infusions last November, which we're still working on paying off. If the FDA has approved it for this use, do you think that means we could submit the bill to his insurance for reimbursement? :D
    The ultrasound thing could potentially help me, too. I have both an inflammatory disorder AND metabolic issues. I wonder if they've tested doing both on the same person. Also, do you think there'd be a way to do the inflammation treatment on someone who doesn't have a spleen? I have mine, but my mom's was removed before I was even under construction.

  • @ExhaustedPenguin
    @ExhaustedPenguin 5 лет назад +5

    a nice new way for companies to make money. ridiculous price. No way it costs them near that much to produce.

    • @viktoryegorov2721
      @viktoryegorov2721 5 лет назад +1

      The production of the drug is not where the company spent most of the money to bring it to market...

    • @TheNeilDarby
      @TheNeilDarby 5 лет назад +1

      Pharma is the real cartel.

    • @glowingone1774
      @glowingone1774 5 лет назад +1

      yeah if you ever need ketamine you can definitely get cheaper somewhere else

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk 5 лет назад

      @@glowingone1774 I agree it's overpriced, but regulated, enantiopure esketamine is not the same drug as the racemic, unregulated stuff you get on the streets.

  • @LprogressivesANDliberals
    @LprogressivesANDliberals 5 лет назад +5

    WERE’RE MY WOOKS AT! I KNOW YOU FOOLS LOVE YOUR K 😂😂🍄

  • @6anon
    @6anon 5 лет назад +6

    What!? You forgot to mention the creator of this miracle drug that is esketamine
    Dr Lil Pump!

  • @DavidR575
    @DavidR575 5 лет назад

    An alternative way to stimulate the vagus nerve and reduce inflammation would be the Wim Hoff breathing method, sounds much easier than surgical implants

  • @williamhardway6436
    @williamhardway6436 5 лет назад +4

    Better off buying ketamine at the stables, goddamn

  • @claytonfrag
    @claytonfrag 5 лет назад +5

    In small doses, yeah I can get that

  • @davidbarnett342
    @davidbarnett342 5 лет назад

    My dad got this for chronic back pain after surgery. Said he could only feel his skeleton and it burned the whole time. Was sick for days after said he never reccomend it.

  • @FriedEgg101
    @FriedEgg101 5 лет назад

    This is anecdotal of course, but when I was younger I took a lot of party drugs. I noticed that mdma would make me feel really low for days afterwards, but ketamin would almost completely negate this effect, helping me feel much less low in the days after. I used to consider it a viable counter to an mdma come-down.

  • @randybowen4675
    @randybowen4675 5 лет назад +4

    Drug use doesn’t cause mental health, people with poor mental health are more likely to use drugs.
    We should study what they find that helps.

    • @bluesmurff6163
      @bluesmurff6163 5 лет назад

      Overusing drugs clearly decrease mental health (especially hardcore ones). Even perfectly healthy people will see a decline over time. Imo the issue with this kind of treatment is than it creates the illusion than all drugs are actually safe, while there is always a risk

    • @lovelyjanuary
      @lovelyjanuary 4 года назад

      blue smurff no it doesn’t. It creates the reality that people who are appropriately prescribed and especially in need of this type of drug therapy based on their chronic treatment resistant depression should take it, not EVERYBODY. 🙅🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @tallasianchick
    @tallasianchick 5 лет назад +3

    welp... TIME TO DO KETAMINE. SORRY, MOM!

  • @HeroOfTheDay16
    @HeroOfTheDay16 5 лет назад +1

    2:51 well with prices like that only the rich or those with amazing health insurance can afford it, the rest of us will have to go to the black market for regular ketamine even if it becomes a mainstream treatment method

  • @BarbarianGod
    @BarbarianGod 5 лет назад +1

    4:50 Isn't that image kind of half way between a mouse and a rat, also the study performed some experiments on rats, some on mice