Persona 1 Analysis (Part 3B) - Ultimate Persona Compendium

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
  • This is the second half of part 3 of the Persona 1 analysis and the final part as a whole. In this part we take a detailed look at the changes the PSP version made to the original game: this includes both the good and the bad. Finally, we analyze the characters and the 'snow queen quest' storyline.
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    CHAPTERS
    0:00 PSP Summary
    0:52 The Pros
    6:26 The Cons
    9:01 The Change of Music
    17:52 "Why play the PS1 version?"
    19:02 Character Analysis Preface
    19:23 The Protagonist
    19:57 Maki Sonomura
    20:39 Yukino Mayuzumi
    20:57 Masao "Black Mark" Inaba
    21:38 Kei Nanjo
    22:44 Eriko "Elly" Kirishima
    23:20 Hidehiko "Brown" Uesugi
    23:44 Yuka Ayase
    24:15 Reiji Kido
    25:38 Party Member Recruitment
    28:07 SSQ Beginning
    29:50 Snow Queen Inspirations
    31:13 Hypnos Tower
    31:53 Nemesis Tower
    32:27 Thanatos Tower
    33:12 Lady Masquerade
    34:07 The Night Queen Nyx
    35:17 SEBEC Connections
    37:34 SSQ Ending
    38:03 Max Ambrosia
    40:05 Bad Endings
    41:30 Outro
    VIDEO CREDITS
    Artwork by Midori Matsui: mmidori31.deviantart.com/
    Tags: #ShinMegamiTensei #Persona #Megaten
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Комментарии • 475

  • @heffelumpphotoco
    @heffelumpphotoco 5 лет назад +607

    Damn. The Persona 1 gang fought Nyx and the protagonist didn’t even have to become a door to beat it. Guess he’s stronger than Makoto.

    • @Kafka_Garezerra
      @Kafka_Garezerra 4 года назад +123

      @Daniel Paul Also, In P1 all the team were wildcards while in P3 only Makoto was a Wildcard

    • @MarkATorres1989
      @MarkATorres1989 4 года назад +88

      My guess is that this was a lesser version of Nyx due to being only powered by two - three powerful wills in a town while P3 that Nyx was being powered by a lot of wills and humanity in whole... not to mention like Sera Feather said... there were more Wild Card users and such spread out than just one sole wielder.

    • @Kafka_Garezerra
      @Kafka_Garezerra 4 года назад +38

      @TrainerblueTube Mmm...I don't know. They actually Can use basically all Personas but they manage better ones than others

    • @derekmartin5340
      @derekmartin5340 4 года назад +32

      Nyx P1 and Nyx P3 are different Nyxs. Persona 1's Nyx was born from Humanity's desire. P3's Nyx ran into the earth and gave rise to the collective unconscious and desires.

    • @stonalisa3729
      @stonalisa3729 4 года назад +2

      Derek Martin so they aren’t the same people?

  • @spudsbuchlaw
    @spudsbuchlaw 5 лет назад +309

    Glad we took care of Nyx for the foreseeable futur-

    • @MarioWiZZeL
      @MarioWiZZeL 3 года назад +11

      Oh... shit!

    • @gabrieldevoogel6225
      @gabrieldevoogel6225 3 года назад +7

      My highest priority should’ve been making sure we don’t fuck up like these losers when persona 3 rolls around

  • @KoolSchrank
    @KoolSchrank 5 лет назад +423

    They took the snow queen quest out of the game, because black Mark wasn't in there.
    No black Mark
    No snow queen quest

  • @CountXDracula
    @CountXDracula 5 лет назад +407

    "The ps1 version has eerie otherworldly feel to it" Couldn't have summed it up better myself.

    • @seb1811
      @seb1811 4 года назад +18

      But then again, "Mark danced crazy".

    • @win_ini
      @win_ini 4 года назад +9

      "Resolver"

    • @caydan4009
      @caydan4009 3 года назад +5

      Keplar vest

    • @junpei6180
      @junpei6180 2 года назад +3

      I may be alone here but honestly prefer the PSP version,sure it sounded like new persona and could get annoying,but some tracks are Catchy and i never thought the og OST was that much intimidating anyway (expecialy compared to smt 1,2 and 4 OST that are pure gold)

    • @PASTELXENON
      @PASTELXENON 2 года назад +5

      It captures the 90s urban/night feel perfectly

  • @fredyma10
    @fredyma10 5 лет назад +149

    The thing with the Persona 1 on PSP soundtrack is how easily it gets stuck in my head since it basically
    Takes 10 steps
    *LIVED IN BURIED MEMORY*
    Turns around because you hit a dead end and takes 2 steps
    *LIVED IN BURIED MEMORY*

    • @poble
      @poble 4 года назад +24

      OVERWRITE THIS PAIN TEARING ME APAAAAAAAAAAAART

  • @Nyarlathotep727
    @Nyarlathotep727 5 лет назад +206

    Can't wait for Persona 2 duology Analysis

  • @Messiah_Abel
    @Messiah_Abel 5 лет назад +48

    34:06 The snow is the means by which all is revealed

  • @belmontzar
    @belmontzar 4 года назад +44

    Its interesting how Tartarus, Thanatos, and Nyx, main themes for Persona 3, were just parts of persona 1's secondary story. I wonder if there are any other connections in p1 to the later games.

    • @lemonov3031
      @lemonov3031 8 месяцев назад +2

      Bro look up Greek mythology you'll go crazy

  • @DuePancho
    @DuePancho 5 лет назад +185

    Monumental analysis of a commonly forgotten and intimidating game. Not only you did a full comprehensive review of absoluty everything, there's also a lot of artistry in your essays. The subtlely sarcastic tone coupled with a calm and nice pace, evelates your delivery and make every line really enjoyable.
    At the start and couldn''t care less for persona 1. After 3 min of your first video i immediately became a fan. It would be amazing if you could continue the series.
    Thank you very much.

  • @lssjgaming1599
    @lssjgaming1599 5 лет назад +258

    If i were a Japanese player my preffered version of the game would be the Windows 98 edition due to the loading being less prevelant. That’s why i am trying to reverse engineer the text files and translate them.
    Persona PSP really should have had a soundtrack switch option like in Persona 2’s remake

  • @samuffert
    @samuffert 5 лет назад +63

    As someone who started with P4 i found the persona psp ost enjoyable...
    But dear god what they did to the atmosphere is inexcusable

  • @MissFJONES
    @MissFJONES 5 лет назад +127

    Thank you so much for creating these videos, not only are they entertaining but it's so nice to see someone actually like P1. Most people tend to just call it a shitty game but seeing you talk about it with such care made me really happy as I'm someone who really likes P1. I've only played the PSP version but hearing you talk about the PS1 version makes me wanna play it as well for its tone and differences

    • @quarreneverett4767
      @quarreneverett4767 5 лет назад +2

      I never played but was hubgry to learn

    • @davidpmendez4321
      @davidpmendez4321 4 года назад +5

      I only played the psp ver and hearing about all the changes is really really cool

    • @nikiardo
      @nikiardo Год назад +2

      People who call Persona 1 a shitty game have not played it. The game has flaws and can get tedious at times but I still think the story more than makes up for it.

  • @sonnytapman
    @sonnytapman 5 лет назад +63

    I hope you mention the game's writer at some point in the Persona 2 coverage. Cause Tadashi Satomi is a really big reason why I enjoy these games, and the fact that he managed to transfer that tone to The Caligula Effect is like, the only reason I really enjoy that game.

    • @SnicketySlice
      @SnicketySlice  5 лет назад +27

      I've been meaning to mention him, yeah. I feel like I focus a little too much on Okada and Kaneko with this one and so I'll make sure to talk about him in the Persona 2 videos.

    • @sonnytapman
      @sonnytapman 5 лет назад +6

      Huzzah! Thank you much!

  • @saltminer7711
    @saltminer7711 4 года назад +10

    "she became obsessed with stopping time"
    Now further proves that the persona series has a plethora of jojo references

  • @capncantread2985
    @capncantread2985 3 года назад +11

    "The protagonist represents the Emperor arcana."
    my boi do be hol horse tho

  • @Lennis01
    @Lennis01 5 лет назад +57

    I couldn't agree more with your analysis of Persona 1's sound design across both versions of the game. The sound design of the original was arguably one of the game's strongest draws. That it was abandoned wholesale for the PSP was unforgivable, as that version would be unquestionably definitive in the eyes of players if the original sound was at least an option. Perhaps there was some technical/hardware reason they couldn't include it?

    • @SnicketySlice
      @SnicketySlice  5 лет назад +21

      Maybe, but the PSP was a more powerful system than the PS1 and the UMD had more storage space so I'm not sure what possible limitation could have prevented them from including the original music and sounds.

    • @TheArkhamjester
      @TheArkhamjester 5 лет назад +6

      Hi way after the fact, I remember that there was a fan patch for the psp version to patch the original soundtrack. So if you have a jailbroken psp or vita...

    • @DonnyKirkMusic
      @DonnyKirkMusic 4 года назад +10

      @@TheArkhamjester its not that good though because it doesn't have all of the music and sfx; a lot of problems with it stem from not being able to reprogram the game and, thus, add the missing songs.

    • @SaviorGabriel
      @SaviorGabriel 4 года назад

      Atlus were definitely trying to reach fans of Personas 3, and 4 to get into the earlier games. However, they found out PSP version of Persona 1 resonated more with fans of the original instead. So I don't think they omitted it for any technical, or hardware issues. They probably felt it wasn't necessary to include it at that time. They would correct this mistake in the PSP remasters of Persona 2.

  • @onioncultistlordoftheonion8315
    @onioncultistlordoftheonion8315 5 лет назад +23

    It's like...in a vacuum the psp version music is great, but with very few exceptions the original music is just so much more atmospheric.
    For example
    Deva Yuga on the ps1 is so dang haunting, it's one of my favorite tracks with its incoherent rambling. Whereas the remake just lacks the chilling feel without the rambling

    • @SnicketySlice
      @SnicketySlice  5 лет назад +7

      I agree. A lot of the PSP music is too short as well and loops more often than the PS1 soundtrack.

  • @starneko
    @starneko 4 года назад +30

    I know these videos are old, but I wanted to thank you for teaching me to love Persona 1. I have attempted to play the PSP version of this game on multiple occasions over the years, but always ended up quitting very early cause I just hated it. But after watching your analysis videos I finally gave it the chance it deserved. Beat the Sebec route a couple of days ago and I ended up really liking it.

  • @icefiredragon94
    @icefiredragon94 2 года назад +13

    Rewatching this again after 10 years from the last time i played the snow queen quest, I feel a bit more sad realizing the girls that were tricked into serving the snow queen had to be specifically killed in order to get what they want. Makes me think about a lot of people who believe death is the only way out if they don't get what they want instead of seeing how life changes things. I felt really angry when I was a teen playing this cause the girls essentially ran away but now that I'm older it's pretty pitiful since they only saw the bad in life. Maybe I am just over thinking this lol.

  • @shellofanegg4039
    @shellofanegg4039 5 лет назад +16

    The no voice acting in the JP PSP version explains why they used the old battle quotes from the PS1 version

  • @scrappy2082
    @scrappy2082 3 года назад +10

    one thing that really bothered me in the PSP version was how much the battle animations where downgraded
    idk why but alot of them look worse, half the time they just look like rotating PNGs, after playing the psx version i would say it has some of my favorite sprite work on the psx as a whole

  • @sonicbacon123
    @sonicbacon123 5 лет назад +49

    Despite having researched the game so much and playing it prior to your video series I've been hooked on each vid since the first dropped. You really go the extra mile in each part. So much little extraneous information I had no idea about in addition to your analysis and background information on Jungian psychology. There's a lot less quality Persona content (analysis in particular) on RUclips than I'd hoped for so I was ecstatic when I first found you. You're my go to rec when anyone wants to know about this game. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to not just your Persona content but whatever other game you decide to cover.

  • @Alexander_Surchenko
    @Alexander_Surchenko 4 года назад +8

    I'm glad to see our "Snow Queen" cartoon being acknowledged

    • @Jevjevjevj
      @Jevjevjevj 4 месяца назад

      Соглашусь

  • @HybridAngelZero
    @HybridAngelZero 5 лет назад +40

    While I absolutely respect what the music in the PSone game was going for... I just love the PSP music too much. The opening notes and "Live with buried memories" still gets me excited.
    Even so, I feel like quite a few Persona games suffer from not having a definitive version (glances at Persona 3)
    In a way, Persona 1's odd localization and stark version differences make its legacy all the more fascinating

  • @KamenKami
    @KamenKami 5 лет назад +61

    Thus Naoya defeated Nyx and didn't have to die, unlike somebody else...

    • @Leon-eu2uo
      @Leon-eu2uo 5 лет назад +2

      LMAO

    • @haruhisuzumiya6650
      @haruhisuzumiya6650 5 лет назад +9

      At least Femc is comatose unlike minato

    • @cunnyman
      @cunnyman 4 года назад +14

      @@haruhisuzumiya6650
      I think they suffered the same fate...

    • @martinsmith8118
      @martinsmith8118 3 года назад +2

      Spoiler:
      He ain't dead; just a door.

  • @Eddman368
    @Eddman368 5 лет назад +4

    One of the issues I imagine is that Persona 1 had a lot more Smt in it’s DNA, so approaching it with a Persona 3-4-5 mindset was gonna lead to a bunch of tone clashes, all mainline SMTs, including some of the spin offs like Devil Survivor 1, and Strange Journey have an incredibly oppressive atmosphere, also having the battle theme not kick in until you actually attack is totally a mainline SMT touch.

    • @ramsey276
      @ramsey276 4 года назад +3

      Good to know... I played Strange Journey before SMT4 and didn't realize that touch!

  • @Ayryvyl
    @Ayryvyl 5 лет назад +13

    It's insane how you perfectly speak my mind about old games around the 18 minute mark. I think a great example of this is Silent Hill. I could never ever imagine a modern Silent Hill 1 or 2. You really get ported to the era it was made in and it adds to the feel. The old, clunky aesthetic and gameplay (apart from the awesome OST of course) adds immensely to the overall creepy and eerie tone of the game and that's a good thing.

  • @Leon-eu2uo
    @Leon-eu2uo 5 лет назад +21

    You just gained new sub. Thank you for this superbly amazing series.
    Finally someone who give this game the actual review it deserve instead of just "This game sucks because it has no social link and I can't bang waifus"

  • @melody3741
    @melody3741 3 года назад +3

    For some reason I just remembered that Elly looks extremely similar to my exes sister Laura. Like if you didn’t know you could literally think that someone made a cartoon version of her.

  • @ChiefMedicPururu
    @ChiefMedicPururu 3 года назад +2

    There's a mod for the PSP version to have the OG OST (except for new tracks that didn't have a PS1 counterpart and the OP and ED).
    So, hey, now the best of both worlds on that part.

  • @kameronhailey-m7076
    @kameronhailey-m7076 3 года назад +3

    Anybody else seeing Maruki in the Snow Queen Quest or am I tripping?
    The only difference is Doc is a hypocrite instead of tempted by a greater force 🤷‍♂️

  • @enzito_sdf6978
    @enzito_sdf6978 2 года назад +6

    honestly playing p1 sqq on a real crt is just magical man. i played w a walkthrough obviously cuz i dont know japanese, but i think the og ost and style really makes the experience to me. i previously played sqq on p1 and i didn't really like it, but on psx it just felt right. the new ost really kills the atmosphere, and the overall charm in the game for me. also in a way i kinda like transitory butterfly as nyx's battle theme, it's a lot darker and it fits the battle better. the snow queen battle theme fits the lady masquerade battle much better imo.
    ALSO WHY DID THEY REMOVE THE SNOW QUEEN THEME FROM THE PSP VERSION WTF
    IT'S LIKE ONE OF THE BEST SONGS OF THE OG GAME

  • @gabrieldevoogel6225
    @gabrieldevoogel6225 3 года назад +4

    Persona 3 staff “what boss should we bring back, maybe Nyarlathotep?”
    Nyx “hold my beer”

  • @jakehutson6158
    @jakehutson6158 5 лет назад +4

    I would keep lone prayer, bloody destiny, and pandora theme, but definitely add the og persona summon theme. That was pretty cool.

  • @chrisstick5403
    @chrisstick5403 5 лет назад +10

    Thanks for this series. I would have never played Revelations Persona after playing the PSP Remake. I would have never been able to appreciate the differences. Good stuff!

  • @kristopheblackburn682
    @kristopheblackburn682 5 лет назад +8

    I wish there was a music option that allowed to change music like some rpg remakes. I like both soundtracks.

    • @SnicketySlice
      @SnicketySlice  5 лет назад +3

      Persona 2 PSP did this so they did learn.

  • @steelblake
    @steelblake 5 лет назад +48

    This was a long restrospective but a really satisfying. I´m with you when it comes to the soundtrack. Not a bad soundtrack but sadly not fitting, there is mod for using the original soundtrack via emulation buuuut it only cover the quantity of tracks that there are in the game so only 60 something tracks. Also it seems that they try the same thing with P2 soundtrack but i assume there was backlash because that game let´s you choose the soundtrack you wanna use.
    Also yeah, the SQQ is the heaviest part of P1 not only for it´s dificulty but is where a lot of darkest theme´s are treated and some bosses were really interesting.
    Just one more thing... Fuck Max Ambriosa and Lucifer Run. Lucifer wasn´t worth it

  • @BIuejoker18
    @BIuejoker18 5 лет назад +14

    Really good job. Can't wait for the Persona 2 analysis!

  • @sineadalicemccann8741
    @sineadalicemccann8741 2 года назад +2

    The reason why the Japanese cutscenes don't have voice acting is because the original voice actors had retired, and Atlus wanted to be respectful so they instead put subtitles in.

  • @EnygmaRecords
    @EnygmaRecords 5 лет назад +7

    I bought this game the day it came out and I recall something about the Snow Queen Questing having been cut due to time constraints, and justified by "most probably couldn't do it anyway". That being said, I was hugely disappointed by its absence but still managed to thoroughly enjoy the PS1 version for everything it had to offer. I was one of the few people who did lots of grinding to get various personas (which ultimately weren't needed to complete the game, but it was a fun game).
    I'm normally someone who doesn't care for excessive battling but I must say I didn't notice how drawn out some of these fights were in comparison to other RPGs at the time. I've recently started playing through it again and feel mostly the same, though I notice it a bit more now perhaps.
    If I had the resources to retranslate the original PS version, I would totally do it. PSP version is nice in many regards but I prefer the "feel" of the original PS version.

  • @lekaine6017
    @lekaine6017 4 года назад +5

    Never played the OG persona but damn that OG P1 ost is sick, they should have kept that style or make a PS4 reboot with the same sound settings and ambience

  • @Zomsagex
    @Zomsagex 5 лет назад +14

    This whole analysis was so much fun to watch! you are doing such a great job
    it makes me dance like crazy thinking about more of this videos

  • @matheusmoreira9951
    @matheusmoreira9951 4 года назад +4

    Late comment, but I've been rewatching your series and it's amazing, Snickety. About the game/video: It's so weird that in the SEBEC route, the person that has the strongest ties to one of the main villains is such a hassle to get in the party! With the whole revenge plot and anger Reiji has against his brother, you would think he would be a mandatory party member, just like Maki.

  • @noahbuster4333
    @noahbuster4333 4 года назад +2

    These videos are pure gold! Thank you for taking the time to make this.

  • @johnn7095
    @johnn7095 4 года назад +5

    I just came upon these videos and they are awesome. My childhood reviewed in great detail.
    On this video and the PSP remake, I agree with all of your complaints. Most notably the soundtrack. The original soundtrack has flaws by today's standards, mainly in quality and use of midi files over real instruments and voices. That said, none of those issues required replacement over remastering.
    I have tried to get through the PSP remake many times and the soundtrack alone just kills it for me.

    • @ender7278
      @ender7278 4 года назад

      There's a patch that replaces the music with the old music, although it's worth noting it doesn't add back the full track count.

  • @technogaming5074
    @technogaming5074 5 лет назад +9

    Feels Like The EXPERT mode is not a big deal at all.
    All it does it has more chances for you dying and missing.
    Like Dying from Deathika.

  • @topuzluelavetopuzluazra7693
    @topuzluelavetopuzluazra7693 3 года назад +3

    25:15 nocturne ptsd intensifies.

  • @DolanDuking
    @DolanDuking 4 года назад +9

    I thought Liftoma being on Maki's initial persona and the floor to her boss being surrounded by damage floors was pretty smart but since this shows they were added in the re-release I guess it's not that deep.

  • @lionelplayerone
    @lionelplayerone 4 года назад +4

    Great job on the complete analysis of this series, not many people have dwelled deeply into the megami tensei library and given it an informative analysis such as you have. Keep it up the good work champ🏆

  • @djblaklite
    @djblaklite 5 лет назад +10

    REALLY looking forward to the Persona 2 videos :)

  • @GrandeGio95
    @GrandeGio95 4 года назад +1

    This is absolutely the best series on Persona so far, thank you for the deeo of my heart

  • @hirobeez
    @hirobeez 4 года назад +5

    I wonder if those soundtrack issues arose from giving space to the new fmvs+new songs+voice acting and the details were sacrificed simply because of the UMD format. Not an excuse or a wise decision, but it does make me think there is some relationship there that ultimately was accepted to favor the "modernization process".
    I also wonder if there was an issue of available source material (original sound data) considering safekeeping is a much more recent concern in the industry, so when "modernizing" not all sounds were available and a lot of them were only the compressed PS1 version that was deemed improper for the re-release - and then the probably miniscule budget directed towards the PSP version was directed into visuals, translation and voice acting and the soundtrack/sound design were left to grab the breadcrumbs. The budget may also be the reason the japanese version just didn't bother with VA, maybe because a re-release of such an old game was deemed low priority there where it had already made it's impact and the focus was on the western audience that was either new to it or unsatisfied by the first localization effort, so "Shoji-ing" the soundtrack took priority on the audio department. From a commercial standpoint it's quite logical. A bit disgraceful, but logical.

  • @felipebelmont3099
    @felipebelmont3099 5 лет назад +1

    I wish i could experience this game when it launched.
    Great video! It was really fun to watch it, thank you. Continue the good work!

  • @shaymin491
    @shaymin491 5 лет назад +36

    Maybe Atlus can do the remake like sonic cd soundtrack option jp or us

    • @SnicketySlice
      @SnicketySlice  5 лет назад +15

      They implented that for the Persona 2 PSP releases so they realized the error.

  • @zkincheloe1412
    @zkincheloe1412 4 года назад +4

    Mark's theme is amazing ngl

  • @PineappleLimonov
    @PineappleLimonov 5 лет назад +27

    So what you're saying is...
    If you like style, play SEBEC in the original, Snow Queen on PSP.
    If you like stuff that is more modern player friendly, all PSP.
    Would that be a good idea?

  • @keikurono6571
    @keikurono6571 5 лет назад +2

    Wow, that was a really good review. One of the best series I watched on u tube in a long time.
    This channle deserved so much more viewers.

  • @shakedcohen6682
    @shakedcohen6682 3 года назад

    i want to see these videos more often but he works so hard on them and goes into a lot of detail and i can wait

  • @DylantheKnightOwl
    @DylantheKnightOwl 5 лет назад +9

    This was great! (as always) Man, it took a while but this has been one of my favorite series to watch on youtube ever. Something that I don't think I've ever said is how you have not only managed to maintain this sense of atmosphere and style through the whole series but also that you have created an atmosphere through this series that manages to make me ponder on the themes of the game, suck me into the game as if I was playing it, but also deeply inspire me as a creator, not just as a youtuber but also a writer. So glad to have been able to see this whole series and I cannot wait to see you tackle the next games in the next games in the series.

    • @SnicketySlice
      @SnicketySlice  5 лет назад +2

      Thanks! That was my intention with a lot of the editing/pacing so I'm glad someone picked up on it.

  • @gatst7680
    @gatst7680 5 лет назад

    Finally. Been waiting for this for a while!

  • @MutantMFM
    @MutantMFM 5 лет назад +4

    Ironically they really need to re-release this game and both Persona 2 games again as well. Especially since we didn't get Persona 2 Eternal Punishment PSP release.

  • @2istedchocol880
    @2istedchocol880 4 года назад

    As someone who just started the persona series and wanted to know more about its universe, this has been a blessing video. Amazing work!!!

  • @nicorubio1504
    @nicorubio1504 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks so much. Excellent content as always.

  • @diegoseta8501
    @diegoseta8501 5 лет назад

    Thank you. Truly. Please, do more of these.

  • @risuhijirikawa5901
    @risuhijirikawa5901 4 года назад +2

    your videos makes me want to play persona 1 again, thanks man

  • @ambercarbuncle1440p
    @ambercarbuncle1440p 5 лет назад +32

    I prefer some tracks from the PSP version, and some from Revelations.

    • @MagillanicaLouM
      @MagillanicaLouM 5 лет назад +6

      Yeah same here. but overall i do prefer psx. Just having more and of course those character themes. I didn't even know about the sound effect stuff he mentioned but that also puts it above for me

  • @lucaskincanyon7393
    @lucaskincanyon7393 3 года назад +4

    Glad we took care of Nyx. Hopefully we never see Nyx agai-

  • @firstname7071
    @firstname7071 5 лет назад +1

    AWWWW!!! it feels bittersweet to have jumped on board early in this series, because i get to be here early... but i also have to wait... -_-'

  • @GlibbyGloyper
    @GlibbyGloyper 4 года назад +1

    Finally finished this whole thing, LMAO. Great series, dude, you're a stand-up act.

  • @MistyWarriorCat
    @MistyWarriorCat 5 лет назад +3

    I loved this analysis. I can't wait for the Persona 2 analysis, as it's my favorite game (games..?) in the series!

  • @Akira_usb.
    @Akira_usb. 3 года назад +4

    im an in-between with he soundtrack, yeah the psp SONGS are great, but, it doesnt capture the dark tone of the story
    edit: laughs in talked to reiji's mother multiple times yet still got him on the party*

  • @MakoTenseii
    @MakoTenseii 5 лет назад +2

    Well. Cant wait for that snow queen run stream

  • @bravemiata2950
    @bravemiata2950 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic writing! Second time watching now

  • @darrenthesleepybird3355
    @darrenthesleepybird3355 4 года назад +2

    Really, the overall things such as the sound design not being there didn't bother me too much when I played both versions a bit back on emulators. I noticed that some of the og sounds were gone but I always assumed that was just because this was a different era, we don't NEED those sounds made by certain things to keep us into the game.
    However what they did to the boss themes fading in and out is TERRIBLE why did they do that to me?

  • @OtakuNewsSource
    @OtakuNewsSource 4 года назад +2

    Glad I found your Persona 1 analysis video. Binge watching everything from you right now.
    I wanted to share thoughts on the music. As someone who started with Persona 3 and Persona 4, I find myself on the side that absolutely love the Persona 1 PSP soundtrack a lot, and would vastly put it over the original soundtrack (the original isn't necessarily bad, but it just doesn't sound as good as the PSP one at all to me.) I think you bring up incredibly solid points on why the PSP version just doesn't fit the eerily dark mood, but I feel that because I grew up experiencing the whole Japanese pop music with lyrics blasting during battles, it's why I could highly get down with the normal and boss battle music so much. Seeing it occur here in Persona 1 PSP just makes it fit more with the modern Persona games to me because it follows the same musical style that Persona 3 - Persona 5 have established for the current direction of the series. I think if maybe I experienced the Persona series through the original Persona 1, and especially back in the time period before Persona blew up into this massive series that caters towards current anime trends, then I would highly be on the side saying the original soundtrack is superior and should be the one listened to when playing the game. Alas, I got in during the modern/current era.
    Though, even I can admit that when redoing the game and introducing it to a new audience, they probably should have stayed closer to the original version. Maybe just updated all the original songs with newer sounding instruments or cleaned the music up, whatever to present the game in the closes and near-perfect version to new Persona fans to see how the original series tone used to be like before the drastic reboot/change in Persona occurred with Persona 3. They really should have just added a toggle between the soundtracks to please both sides. It's also strange that characters themes were mostly omitted except for a few, and the sound effects were changed or outright missing. The things with sound effects are nitpicks for me, but I can't help but wonder if this occurred due to PSP constants, or just a problem happened during development that was overlooked.
    Anyways, thank you for starting this in-depth analysis of the Persona series! It's absolutely amazing to see someone presenting so much research. These videos on Persona 1 had made me come to appreciate it more and how much it used Jungian Psychology to craft the image of Persona for the very first game.

  • @dokkanbattleplayer2921
    @dokkanbattleplayer2921 3 года назад +5

    Naoya Toudou:Emperor
    Maki sonomura: priestess
    Yukino Mayuzumi: Empress
    Masao inaba (Mark): chariot
    Kei nanjo: Hierophant
    Eriko kirishima (Elly): judgement
    Hidehiko Uesugi (Brown): Justice
    Yuka Ayase: magician
    Reiji Kido: Death and Devil

  • @GameMaster-ig8oo
    @GameMaster-ig8oo 5 лет назад +4

    Brown is optional in the Snow Queen Quest?! That's news to me. When I tried to force him out, he forced himself into the party.

    • @SnicketySlice
      @SnicketySlice  5 лет назад +6

      You can not pick him by recruiting Elly and Kei before getting to the room where you fight the fat kid that likes Ayase.

  • @SamBeta20
    @SamBeta20 3 года назад +4

    Still prefer the ps1 version or orignal design. I would like toplay the orignal jp ps1 version with an english patch some day, but getting a pc port on steam and then modding it feels more likely lately.

  • @sinceritynature202
    @sinceritynature202 4 года назад +2

    I played a modded version of the PSP release with the original soundtrack, and honestly, thank god I did. I enjoy the music of P3 a lot, it's one of my favorite videogame soundtracks period, but even putting aside how much the re-release music breaks my immersion/breaks the atmosphere, I also genuinely think it's Bad. Like, actively bad, poorly made songs with no heart in them.
    Particularly A Lone Prayer. I know it has its fans, but my god, I cant imagine having to listen to that every. single. battle. If I hadnt found a mod replacing the music I might never have played P1 at all.

  • @cyanryann64
    @cyanryann64 4 года назад +2

    Im in the first camp i love the new ost expertly the p1 battle music it gets me hype has hell

  • @PhoenixNoKiseki
    @PhoenixNoKiseki Год назад +1

    RUclips has MANY issues, but I’m glad it exists because niche content wouldn’t exist otherwise. I love the amount of love and dedication Snickety shows to making these videos the best they can be.

  • @jarnegi
    @jarnegi 5 лет назад +2

    Did the full run myself for all the ultimate personas for the Snow Queen Quest. It's not easy. Go for it, mate!

    • @SnicketySlice
      @SnicketySlice  5 лет назад

      You brave soul.

    • @jarnegi
      @jarnegi 5 лет назад

      @@SnicketySlice keep making great content, man!

  • @fighterxaos1
    @fighterxaos1 5 лет назад

    Hey, very nice to see you upload today. I'm sidelined from doing anything else today due to the heat over here. So perfect timing

  • @lucaskincanyon7393
    @lucaskincanyon7393 3 года назад +1

    I really liked what they did with Yamaoka. That was so cool.

  • @makhyusnimakhyusni401
    @makhyusnimakhyusni401 3 года назад +6

    It you all hesitate to play i can recommend manga it really amazing and develop the main protagonist a.k.a Naoya

    • @AmberAmour
      @AmberAmour 3 года назад +2

      Manga is super solid

  • @KaiboStudios
    @KaiboStudios 4 года назад +2

    I'm sorta in between when it comes to the music. I like songs like dream of butterfly and lone prayer which to me are frickin' bops, but I can see where there are problems like how the basic over world theme plays in areas it shouldn't.

  • @muthesquirrel
    @muthesquirrel 4 года назад +2

    I think one thing the games have missed recently is a character changing their arcana when passing a certain event.

  • @LeanneMustafa
    @LeanneMustafa 5 лет назад

    i love this series so much. and i love your voice! here's a sub from a random girl from seattle. cant wait to see the next part of this series!

  • @RePhantomz
    @RePhantomz 5 лет назад +3

    To be more precise there is more relation between reiji and his 2nd persona. Just like reiji desire to kill his brother, Mot mythology also plays same scenario where he keep trying to kill his brother baal

  • @dolphinlover25
    @dolphinlover25 2 года назад +1

    Does anyone else feel like "Bad Romance" Sums up Reiji?

  • @AlonzoTompkins
    @AlonzoTompkins 2 года назад +1

    After playing some of more recent MegaTen releases like Noctrune HD, I think a new port of Persona 1 would make good use of optional soundtracks you can switch via the options menu.
    In Nocturne HD you can select music from SMT, SMT II, SMT IV, and IV Apocolypse. So having a menu that lets you switch between the original and PSP soundtracks would be great.

  • @INeededANameForThisChannel
    @INeededANameForThisChannel 5 лет назад

    there better be an innocent sin video on the way - this series was great!

  • @melody3741
    @melody3741 3 года назад

    I actually think that the bus music that you showed fits with the rest of the music of the original persona game personally. Obviously it’s not the same but I think that the vibe definitely works and I think it’s a really cool song as well.

  • @babyJoe_
    @babyJoe_ 5 лет назад

    can't wait for the Persona 2 bonus video

    • @SnicketySlice
      @SnicketySlice  5 лет назад

      was that a Cybershell reference? I approve!
      But the Persona 2 video is coming pretty soon. I have it recorded.

    • @babyJoe_
      @babyJoe_ 5 лет назад

      Yayyyyy I'm so excited!

  • @MagicLad_Ty
    @MagicLad_Ty 5 лет назад +3

    T^T I just watched all the parts and I'm so glad how detailed this was!
    I actually didn't know you could change the screen color like in P2 PS1 (kinda makes me want to play Revelations again)
    I need to play through the game a few more times with each character tho
    1st: SEBEC - Hidehiko, SQQ - Hidehiko & Eriko (this was PSP btw)
    2nd: SEBEC - Reiji (or should I say Chris since this was Revelations)
    I have 2 more play through to do
    3rd: SEBEC - Eriko, SQQ - Nanjo & Hidehiko (this will be PSP with the music patch even tho it doesn't restore all the music it will still make it a different experience)
    4th: SEBEC - Ayase, SQQ - Nanjo & Eriko (this I want to wait till hopefully the person who was translation the PC version finishes)(I hope this becomes a thing because then we will have the original ost and sounds + a faithful translation)

    • @SnicketySlice
      @SnicketySlice  5 лет назад

      Someone is translating the PC version?

    • @MagicLad_Ty
      @MagicLad_Ty 5 лет назад

      someone was but they had to put it on hold. I had contacted them to see if it was still a thing and they told me they'd like to get back to it eventually
      This was months ago so let me see if I can still find it

  • @isuckatgaming1873
    @isuckatgaming1873 4 года назад +2

    I think the music thing is more than a difference of taste. If the music playing doesn't apply to the situation, it can actively harm the moments feel and implications. I believe the first example you gave of the music being different (the part with the heartbeat, I think its spelled Avidya world or something) being changed to just the generic school music really harms the feel of the moment.

  • @OneBitDinosaur
    @OneBitDinosaur 3 года назад +2

    Great analysis of the games -> Have you thought about releasing this as a book (maybe similar to the Legends of Localization)?

  • @gamer11011101
    @gamer11011101 5 лет назад +2

    I did the Max Ambrosia run. While I did get everyone's ultimate persona, I couldn't use 2 or 3 of them because their Persona level was too low.
    Another thing I did was collect all 12 mirror shards. This will get you the Spiegel Armor. It can only be equipped by the MC and has the highest evade stats in the game. However I did not use it; I maxed out agility and dexterity and just bought the higher defense armor from the shop that was could be equipped by everyone.

    • @SnicketySlice
      @SnicketySlice  5 лет назад +2

      But the real question is: did you use the bragging rights?

    • @gamer11011101
      @gamer11011101 5 лет назад

      Not really. I don't know anyone that was into Persona enough to be impressed by that feat.

  • @coolernow7948
    @coolernow7948 4 года назад +1

    Here's how you do it
    one option for all original sound "Classic"
    one option for original sound plus the new songs that fit the old style "Classic Deluxe"
    one option for the PSP soundtrack with the jpop included "Modern"
    it would also be nice if they gave a HUD and cutscene toggle
    edit: I hoenstly do like voice as a credits track though, it helps to relieve the tension caused by the eerily quiet ending scene.

  • @Witchsnitch666
    @Witchsnitch666 5 лет назад +5

    there's an undub patch for the psp version which makes the soundtrack good again