To the three thousand people that have subbed me since my last video - holy shit. You'll have to excuse me one last time because I recorded this on the world's shittiest microphone - I didn't think people would end up watching these. I'll be making more reviews, but before that, I'll buy a mic. Devil Summoner is a really cool game and I hope you guys check it out, it has definitely been the least painful out of all the classic Megaten games I've reviewed so far. This took a long ass time to make and it'll probably be the longest video I ever do because of how little content there is online for it. Thanks for all the support so far, I think it can only get better as I upgrade my setup and continue to improve everything.
Hey there. I'm a small content creator (not with this channel) and if you're looking for a mic on the cheap, I would highly recommend the Samson Q2U. You can check a review of it out on podcastage's youtube channel. It's served me well for a long when I first upgraded from a blue snowball. Sorry if this was unsolicited advice, just thought I'd chime in as someone who also wanted to upgrade their mic from bargain basement quality not too long ago.
I was really surprised at being able to beat Demiurge without demons - Rei is a beast with that offense build, the pig was mostly there for moral support.
@@MarshSMT amusingly the DevSum games are a LOT friendlier about not needing to rely on the demons til bosses generally--at least not til like midgame. :) (Hell, both give these Magnatite non-eating "doll" demons that you can keep as free extra member too--Soul Hackers it is pretty useful third member, DevSum it is basically get them for making best demons.)
@p.m.ruisenor1919da. I have two friends that allways do dumb shit that pulls them into some problems and thanks to me hanging out with them sometimes they have said problems (for example getting yelled at by one of our pears) and somehow I'm allways roped into this shit even though I'm Innocent. Not the same caliber as getting arested because you where hanging out with some killers but still similar enough to feal relatable for me. Sorry for my bad english not my first language and have a good day.
I love how relatable your take on games is. It's a REFRESHING take on the tired RUclips psudo-professional commentary thing. This is like talking to a friend about games 🙋🏻♀️
ya know...yeah thats why I like his videos, just didn't know how to put it into words, and yeah someone mentioned yeah like Spoony's earlier videos, defintally gettin his Ultima Series Vibe
Yeah, not to rag on ppl like Skill Up or anything but it’s really tiring to feel kinda condescended to about a game. This video though? It’s probably the best youtube review I’ve ever seen.
It's pretty great to watch. Very informative and nice to listen to. Not to mention for games I'll probably never play, such as the smt if video that got me to watch the channel, lol
Always loved how Devil Summoner goes for more modern takes on demon sources and interpretations, sometimes even using pop culture. Things like Orgone Ghost and all the ones drawn from rumors. It really helps give the series a distinct identity from the mainline SMT games.
I love how there are the drag queen demons who were able to defy death by sheer force of will and a strong connection to their alter ego. It's so odd and unique
Thanks, it means a lot to me honestly. I'm glad people are enjoying these. In a couple days I'll post a poll for my next video - if there's a Megaten you've ever wanted to see a review of, let me know and I'll be sure to get around to it.
@@MarshSMT Honestly reviews like this for every Megaten game from you If feasible Would be sick as hell Would love to finally see some in depth focused videos on SMT1, 2, Soul Hackers, DDS 1/2, Raidou games etc They're great
"It's some comfy shit and it even feels a little nostalgic but also faintly mysterious" Exactly How i feel about your videos as you dive into these old gems that I and most people don't want to
@@lacreatura4737 But in that game she wants to join you. And she also offers to stay when she is about to leave. I mean you have to say "yes" and "i need you" how is that simping? She doest want anything in return, you just need to ask.
Saw your review and decided to give the game a run. I have some good language experience so I was able to run through it while using the guide when needed. Comparing it to your runthrough of the game, there were a few interesting things I found from my run. 1. Demon Negotiations: They have some pretty funny conversations. Sometimes, even Rei gets into the conversation and says some funny lines. For example, when negotiating with Angel, she will ask if Rei is your girlfriend and if you say yes, Rei flips out, but if you say no, Angel starts saying maybe she'll hook up with you, and the two start fighting, with Angel insulting Rei's outfit and giving her money to buy new shoes. It has some other funny ones like wanting you to dance to thinking your "self-training” is "strawberry hunting "(自己鍛錬 as イチゴ探検). It really make the grueling experience of it alright. That said, getting them to join your team seems random, as no matter how big of stacks you lay down, they can take it and run, even if it's a ridicuous amount. You usually want to keep your offers low enough that they don't get angry, but that you won't cry if they take it and run. They also seem to sometimes give you items or magnitite or even cash if they don't join, although sometimes not very much. The worst part of it is that sometimes they ask for specific items you have no chance of having, and just waste your time. I'd often use the item you can use to save in dungeons to just reload sometimes when I gave way more than I should have even given. Overall, I'd say you weren't unlucky, it's just a tough and unforgiving system. 2. Hard Mode: I played the game on hard mode, and it changes the gave from what sounds like is a cake walk in normal. Boss health is up by 2.0, you take 1.5 times the damage, and the demon compendium's summoning costs are doubled. It turns the game from not needing demons to making them a necessity. I actually like that I need backup, as I wanted to have a good challenge. Easy bosses like Sid become threatening, and normal bosses become a real challenge. The hardest ones were probably Demiurge, hitting hard and freezing my team, the 1st boss in the radio tower, with the 3 hurling multihit electric attacks, and the final boss having a health pool that makes you cry. Overall, it changes the game from something easy to a game where you have to have a plan. I had to bring up the loyalty of my demons to survive boss battles, and having Rei being an offensive magic build really helped me pull through the game, as I maxed her magic by the end of the game and constanly focused on making her a powerhouse. 3. Loyalty tidbits Since Loyalty is rather required in Hard, I found that having gift demons was clearly the way to go, as law loyalty takes a long time, and by the time they become very loyal, they are underleveled for your crew. Not to mention, the AI for them can make them do dumb things, like try to cast spells that don't work and sometimes not help at all. But if you do max out your loyalty, you can actually go to the demon combination place and turn the demon into a weapon or armor. They have set items they will turn into, and they actually are pretty sweet gear, as one of the pieces I got from one I kept on Rei all the way to the end of the game. 4. Dungeons: I mostly agree with what you said with the Dungeons, but a few additional points. -I thought Chinatown wasn't too bad, especially compared to town hall. The non-idicated teleports were fine enough, and the one's with the singal I think were used as a clue, as those ones are the ones that actually lead to the boss. There also isn't any floors to fall through, and you can map out the area eventually with enough exploring, and it is just one big floor. However, this might just be me, as I've heard some of the games came with a map of it due to people getting lost. Plus the warp puzzle solution is kind of mean. -The one dungeon by Kumiko's house is really small. To clear it in 10 seconds is really lucky, but it is that short. -The Hibari Mansion dungeon does suck. It isn't that great. You fall, you warp, you cry a bit. -Yes, City hall sucks. Probably the worst one in the game. You fall, you go through one way doors, and you have to go up and down with little clear direction of which way to go. It's also Very long. You cry a lot. -The final dungeon was pretty nice, but I think I got lucky. It's tough and mean, but not as confusing and tear jerking as city hall. I do like the two mini bosses before the final boss. 5: Conclusion: Honestly, I had a great time. The atmosphere, the gamplay, and all the little touches bring together a good game. I probably will go back and try it again soon, as it was my first Megaten game so far, and I really enjoyed it. Thanks for introducing the game, as I doubt I'd even find it without your video.
"5G towers as a demon" Well, we did get Chemtrail in SMTIV, so I wouldn't be surprised. There need to be more conspiracy theory/urban legend demons tbh, they're great material for it.
this really sounds a lot like Persona 1 and 2, which I'm all on board for I really like the "normal guy explores the seedy underbelly of his city" sort of plotline solid video as always
@@maskedgamerjoker6148 No it's not, whoever told that to you my guy has made a Big Lies. Though Persona 2 and Devil Summoner does had some correlation on how its Gameplay prevail ultimately it was a Game with a Different Universe and Series. Also Devil Summoner is closer to be canon with SMT than anything because Nocturne Crossover but take that as you may.
@@maskedgamerjoker6148 Well yeah but it isn't Canon to the Persona Universe after what Tatsuya did. *P2 EP Spoiler. In a way DS only Canon to P2 even though it's an Easter Egg basically provided by your Point not the Persona Universe because Tatsuya aka Philemon did in a way Hard Reset the reality because of the Paradox that he did.
I'd like to imagine for that last dungeon the MC is trying to tell his team what to do while they all either shrug him off or kill themselves cause they'd rather be in a different smt game.
"Okay guys so here's the pl-" "FUCK YOUR MOUTH BITCH I DO WHAT I WANT!" *fucking dies* ".....okay s-" *every other demon starts to kill themselves simultaneously*
Thank you johne for getting me into persona 3 back in 2014, which in turn got me super into the megami tensei series. I have now almost completed every game in both smt and persona. I can never truly thank you enough. Cheers.
Yeah you tell them! I can have all mighty demons, reincarnation, world destruction by magic. But the most mythical beast of all, a girlfriend? Thats when i draw the line. Come on capcom! Get your game on!
Jesus is actually in Persona 3, as Messiah. He has a cross and crown of thorns. The fact that he's thanatos below the waist is part of the game's theme of redemption being death
Good shit! It's hard to find solid megaten content that doesn't get overly pedantic or rely on shitting on persona. I really fuck with the laid back humor and style of your content, excited to see more!
I literally JUST started playing Devil Summoner recently. The PSP version specifically because I wanted to see what it was about. Soul Hackers and the Raidou games all look so interesting and the name "Kuzunoha" just kept appearing wherever I looked in this franchise. I saw the name in Persona 2 aswell.
@@Tessodan Not quite, personas are not demons users summon to receive help, but a hip and modern version of the Jungian archetype of the Shadow. You can talk to demons, and summon personas based off their image, but personas and demons cannot be the same thing. You also can't summon multiple personas at once, you can only "wear" one at the time, while devil summoners can fill their party slots with demons. At least that's what I got from playing Innocent Sin!
@@ShadowBaofu Spoiler One of the NPCs in P2 duology is possessed by Kyouji Kuzunoha. He helps out the crew through the game, but doesn't fight himself. He turned him from an unsuccessful dick to the best detective in town. That's the closest we get to them teaming up, though that does imply that the Devil Summoners are in the same world as the Persona users, though Atlus forgot themselves apparently. Edit: Oh wait your name is Shadow Baofu, you probably already know this.
Dude. I'm not even kidding. This is some of the best content on RUclips. Breaking into games which are primarily in Japan and delving deep into them is fascinating. Whatever new Experiences you create, I'll be here, because by YHWH, this stuff is good.
I gotta say: these videos on the older/untranslated smt games are incredibly nice as a way to kinda see what they're all about. Thanks so much for making them
I really like the way the first person dungeons look in this one, they actually look like real places. Fits in well with that whole atmosphere thing you mentioned
It's rad to see someone FINALLY covering this game, our man marsh doing god's work. It's also good you're finally getting some traction man, I hope you keep growing dude.
Really cool to see this. Atlus USA not translating this game is one of their greatest mistakes they've made. I loved Soul hackers and woulda bought its predecessor day one. Great job on the video too dude. Its good to see someone knowledgeable about classic smt, I was really getting tired of hearing brainlet hot takes from people who've obviously never played any game before nocturne, But still think they're experts
Here's a couple fun facts about zoma demons, since they're my personal favourite type in the entire series; The characters used to write zoma roughly translate to artificial demon Not only do they change form as you fuse more demons into one, but there are even specific demons that can only be gained through this, such as Longinus The kadmon half of dolly kadmon is taken from Adam kadmon, a term in kaballah for the ultimate form of man I like to build my zoma, at least in soul hackers, around buffs and curing status ailments, and my personal favourite form is the initial zeed form
The opening where the game drags you though the dungeon while the AI curb stomps everything is such a cool way of showing how out of your league you are.
I've never been able to play this game, but I love it so much. Rei's awesome, and for as much of an ass as Kyoji is, I do like him. Kumiko's great too. Honestly, the Devil Summoner games are probably my favorite 'branch' of the MegaTen franchise. Thanks for playing this and sharing it and your thoughts about it.
Gonna have to wait until later to have a good meal with this nice hour-long treat. Edit: Had a pretty good pizza with this, that said thanks for going through the game Marsh, I've been sorta curious about the Devil Summoner protagonist since you could fight him in Soul Hackers. Glad to finally have an idea on who he was.
In regards to Orgone Ghost, most Devil Summoner demons (many of which also appear in Devil Survivor games) are based on urban and classical myths, as opposed to the traditional divinities you encounter in the mainline series. (Orgone energy was also believed to be created by intercourse and observing intercourse, which is fitting in-context).
I love all your videos but I keep coming back to this one, the jokes were just incredibly well-timed and deadpan. "All the cops take turns calling you a piece of shit" gets me every time
I was just talking about Devil Summoner in the past week and how cool it's aesthetic is, so getting a new video about it rules, I really hope it gets a full translation sooner rather than later
@ZX-Gear You pretty much have to apply the "read the room" thing Japanese people have in their culture when addressing other people. It's tough. But with an N4 Japanese level and a dictionary, I managed to recruit a handful , so all hope it's not lost. You can play this game if you have a lot of patience.
Forgot to mention that Kinap's theme in Soul Hackers is called "Redman" on the OST which i think is pretty dope. And the Jack Bros in the game are called the Devil Buster Busters which is another reference to Megami Tensei II.
I'm really loving this channel. The sweet electro-synth OSTs in the background, the smooth down to earth commentary and the engaging visuals, it's really an extraordinary combination to me. Keep up the good work!
being put into the body of an elite demon slayer, fighting 5G towers, shungite, and jesus christ. now THIS is how a Your Name sequel should be. fo real, thank you for doing this LP! love them straightforward walkthrough type Lets Plays.
I am extremely pleased you went so thoroughly through Devil Summoner 1, I've played through the game in Japanese with only a bare-bones guide before the transliteration of the script was even done. I really love some of the gameplay features in it, as well as the funky atmosphere and a lot of the unique designs. While it's rougher around the edges than even its sequel, I think it's a pretty unique game with excellent dungeons and music, despite some of the flaws.
Awesome, I've been looking forward to a new video from you! I never even knew this game existed until recently. I always thought Soul Hackers was the first Devil Summoner game. I absolutely ****ing LOVE the graphics in this game and Soul Hackers. The early 3D with first person dungeon crawling looks so amazing for some reason. The 2D demons look great too.
26:03 according to the wiki, that demon is Agony, which is an Undead who seems to be based on Jesus. "Origin: Unknown A zombie who is always carrying a cross. He's a martyr who was not reborn in the Kingdom of God after dying. Because his people did not give their lives for their God, he was reborn as a demon. Though he lived through many forms of pain, his God did not ask this of him. Because he only cared about pleasing his God, he became a truly miserable soul." -Akuma Zensho
I said it before and i wont stop saying it. These are really interesting vids. I love SMT but suffering through the games is such a bother sometimes, and thats where youre different from most channels. You provide such a good platform for anyone interested in SMT. You deserve so many more subs.
I recently found out about your channel, for years Ive been wanting smt content that wasnt overly pretentious and relatable, thank you for your work! It makes me so happy to hear people talk about a game series close to my heart.
"As soon as I got a fucking paper cut, they'd off themselves" I can't completely convey the hilarity that occurred in my head as soon as I heard that line, but thank you for this mental image: "Ow! Fuckin', cut my finger..." *-1HP* "Hey wait Kresnik what are you doing with that swor--" "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA--" *-375HP* "....." *+1HP* "Bit overdramatic..."
really enjoy ur reviewsml mate, they are informative as hell, they are not of the same trope as the typical "SMT IS GOD PERSONA IS TRASH" videos that ive watched recently ha. good job, keep it up :)
Recently found your channel and I have to say you’re one of my favorite channels that talk about Megaten. It’s really cool to see someone talk about these older games! Devil Summoner definitely looks interesting, I do hope that one day Atlus will translate there older games but considering how they didn’t even bother updating the SMT1 app, literally the only official way to play the game, to work on modern phones says a lot. Well once again really enjoy your videos and keep up the good work!
Ive been subscribed for a while and all i have to say is that thank you for getting more and more people into this franchise, my friend recently watched your videos and is now playing soul hackers on his modded 3ds and is absolutely hooked, so thanks marshall, Mucho amor from the Mexican SMT community! ✌️
This game is a rare jewel. I really liked the loyalty system just because I enjoy keeping some demons until the end. If this system is somewhat introduced again with the implementation of the mitamas and a special reward for having max loyalty, not necessary for the game but a prize for the player, like a special evolution or skill it would be amazing. Great video I enjoy seeing these games again, so nostalgic
i played this one using the LPArchives playthrough as a guide and i really hated it but i enjoyed every second of it, ion really got a better way to describe the game.
That playthrough is a huge lifesaver for the longer dialogues. It started to get a little annoying to me near the end because of the bigger plot sections, but I guess I just have to look at that kind of thing as language practice. Pretty cool game when one of the biggest complaints against it is just that we can't read it yet.
Thanks for making this video! I’ve been a huge “SMT” fan since I picked up a copy of “Nocturne” back in college in 2004. And this is one of the only “SMT” games I haven’t had a chance to check out because of the language barrier. But I’ve always wanted to because it looked really interesting and closer in gameplay to modern “SMT” games, like its sequel: “Soul Hackers”.
As someone who keeps hoping for more people to talk about the Devil Summoner series, this was one heck of a treat, man!! I'm really hoping you make another video on Soul Hackers or even the Devil Summoner TV series that came out in the 90s. This is the great content I subbed for, so keep it up~!!
Honestly dude. Just watching your videos alone make me wanna try out the older megaten games besides soul hackers. You're the whole reason why i'm playing SMT if. And now this video alone just makes me wanna play this game despite the language barrier.
Awesome that you're giving these games a try. Reading off of a script can sound discouraging, but it's not so bad, and if you get hooked by the atmosphere you'll have a really good time.
Great video! Interesting to see the PSP version. It definitely seems like the definitive version. So let me give you a little taste of what I had to go through playing the Saturn version... The game is MUCH slower, both walking speed and battle speed There are TEN ranks of demon loyalty. It goes up painfully slow in this version too. The Back-upper, an item that saves your game anywhere, is a one-time use item that must be rebought after use. But the biggest, most annoying glaring problem is... You can't see warps on your map. You have to memorize it yourself, making dungeon like Chinatown and the old tomb a huuuuge pain!
You didn't have to say a word about that final boss track for me. Even just hearing it in the background made it clear that it's hyping up you, the devil summoner who's about to take out a goddess. That's cool as hell.
Hey, thanks for the old megaten videos! I enjoy the pseudo-walktrough format since i don't know japanese and my current goal is to play the english/spanish translated games. You help me understand more about the lore while feeling as if i was hanging out with a friend. Keep it up!
Regarding an official US release, WAY BACK in the day, Atlus USA announced they were bringing it over, and apparently it was largely completed before release was canceled due to issues with the US Saturn market (and possible over concern that the game was called Devil Summoner, where you summoned demons). Somewhere in Atlus USA's archives, assuming they saved it, is a near complete English port of the game. Though considering how they handled the localization of the first Persona game, it's probably not exactly faithful.
Damn good video man. Been working through the SMT series (just finished Devil Survivor Overclocked) and it’s been really cool to see what the games that never made it west are like. Keep up the great work!
i like the idea of roleplaying as a foreigner caught in a really bad situation who just can’t understand anything at all but things somehow just work out
Bloody fantaaaaaastic video man, thank you! So thorough and informative. Now I can play Soul Hackers happily :) From what I've heard, Soul Hackers seems to repeat a few themes, game ideas & locations originally seen here... almost like this game is the Mother 1 to Earthbound - a premium prototype of sorts. Although, as you've shown, absolutely it's own incredible work too. Just interesting. Thanks again, will be watching your other videos too.
To the three thousand people that have subbed me since my last video - holy shit. You'll have to excuse me one last time because I recorded this on the world's shittiest microphone - I didn't think people would end up watching these. I'll be making more reviews, but before that, I'll buy a mic. Devil Summoner is a really cool game and I hope you guys check it out, it has definitely been the least painful out of all the classic Megaten games I've reviewed so far. This took a long ass time to make and it'll probably be the longest video I ever do because of how little content there is online for it. Thanks for all the support so far, I think it can only get better as I upgrade my setup and continue to improve everything.
you've singlehandedly convinced me to play SMT titles I will never be able to understand
that's how awesome you and your content are, keep it up!
Loved your smt if vids, so glad i found this channel 😊
For some reason, the RUclips Algoridem started working again.
Hey there. I'm a small content creator (not with this channel) and if you're looking for a mic on the cheap, I would highly recommend the Samson Q2U. You can check a review of it out on podcastage's youtube channel. It's served me well for a long when I first upgraded from a blue snowball. Sorry if this was unsolicited advice, just thought I'd chime in as someone who also wanted to upgrade their mic from bargain basement quality not too long ago.
@@bobbob-dj4lh I appreciate the recommendation, I'll actually check this one out. Anything's better than the headset mic I use at the moment
I am still in sheer disbelief you cleared almost the whole game only using a pig so much for summoning those demons I guess
I was really surprised at being able to beat Demiurge without demons - Rei is a beast with that offense build, the pig was mostly there for moral support.
Ikr
@@MarshSMT i thought the pig was the emergency food
One piece reference
@@MarshSMT amusingly the DevSum games are a LOT friendlier about not needing to rely on the demons til bosses generally--at least not til like midgame. :)
(Hell, both give these Magnatite non-eating "doll" demons that you can keep as free extra member too--Soul Hackers it is pretty useful third member, DevSum it is basically get them for making best demons.)
"Beating this game with a pig? Hmph. When pigs fly!"
"He beats the absolute shit out of these guys and proceeds to call you a total dumbass..." I'm sold.
Getting arrested while hanging out near murders is peak SMT protag.
@p.m.ruisenor1919da. I have two friends that allways do dumb shit that pulls them into some problems and thanks to me hanging out with them sometimes they have said problems (for example getting yelled at by one of our pears) and somehow I'm allways roped into this shit even though I'm Innocent. Not the same caliber as getting arested because you where hanging out with some killers but still similar enough to feal relatable for me. Sorry for my bad english not my first language and have a good day.
Still not as bad as literally GRABBING THE MURDER WEAPON AND TAKING IT, like with SMT1's protag 🤣
@@NickOleksiakMusic Kazuya thought it was the apocalypse already 💀
Marsh: When am I going to recruit my demons? When pigs fly.
Devil Summoner: Hold my Jack Frost.
Madre mia wiseman, que haces aqui colegancio
@@Breadofkazz ¿ Qué ?
Hee-hold*
Never has that saying applied so literally lmao
I love how relatable your take on games is. It's a REFRESHING take on the tired RUclips psudo-professional commentary thing. This is like talking to a friend about games 🙋🏻♀️
I appreciate it, that's exactly how I want these to feel
I agree
Honestly they remind me of spoonys earliest videos, its like listening to someone gush about obscure games and stuff.
ya know...yeah thats why I like his videos, just didn't know how to put it into words, and yeah someone mentioned yeah like Spoony's earlier videos, defintally gettin his Ultima Series Vibe
Yeah, not to rag on ppl like Skill Up or anything but it’s really tiring to feel kinda condescended to about a game. This video though? It’s probably the best youtube review I’ve ever seen.
My man marsh is really blowing up these days
Dudes making great content!
11K views in 1 day really is something
It's pretty great to watch. Very informative and nice to listen to. Not to mention for games I'll probably never play, such as the smt if video that got me to watch the channel, lol
It sucks that he’s some what underrated
Only found his Akira Miyamoto video a few days ago and have binged the videos, looking forward to your future work Marsh :)
Always loved how Devil Summoner goes for more modern takes on demon sources and interpretations, sometimes even using pop culture. Things like Orgone Ghost and all the ones drawn from rumors. It really helps give the series a distinct identity from the mainline SMT games.
I love how there are the drag queen demons who were able to defy death by sheer force of will and a strong connection to their alter ego. It's so odd and unique
I'm not gonna lie to you, this is one of my favorite channels right now
This is making me more of a Megaten fan every upload
Thanks, it means a lot to me honestly. I'm glad people are enjoying these. In a couple days I'll post a poll for my next video - if there's a Megaten you've ever wanted to see a review of, let me know and I'll be sure to get around to it.
@@MarshSMT Just telling you right now, I'm gonna vote for Soul Hackers
@@MarshSMT Honestly reviews like this for every Megaten game from you
If feasible
Would be sick as hell
Would love to finally see some in depth focused videos on SMT1, 2, Soul Hackers, DDS 1/2, Raidou games etc
They're great
@@MapleMilk same
Same here although I am pleased to say I checked this one out before this upload.
"It's some comfy shit and it even feels a little nostalgic but also faintly mysterious" Exactly How i feel about your videos as you dive into these old gems that I and most people don't want to
Dude, giving thousands of makka to a pixie... SIIIIIIMP
*lol* I did my fair share of fairy and female demon simping in this game & Soul Hackers.
I mean, you simp for a pixie and she becomes your best demon, just ask the Demi-Fiend.
@@lacreatura4737 But in that game she wants to join you.
And she also offers to stay when she is about to leave.
I mean you have to say "yes" and "i need you" how is that simping?
She doest want anything in return, you just need to ask.
@@googleuser9013
Yeah, no real simping for that one, now simping to get other demons on the other hand.....
@@googleuser9013 Idk man, that "I need you" sounds like simping alright.
Love the arc of incompetent summoner who can't recruit a single demon to boss of a dysfunctional group of rebels.
The thing I like the most about this game is how it basically solidified the designs of like 70% of all demons in the series until today
Saw your review and decided to give the game a run. I have some good language experience so I was able to run through it while using the guide when needed. Comparing it to your runthrough of the game, there were a few interesting things I found from my run.
1. Demon Negotiations:
They have some pretty funny conversations. Sometimes, even Rei gets into the conversation and says some funny lines. For example, when negotiating with Angel, she will ask if Rei is your girlfriend and if you say yes, Rei flips out, but if you say no, Angel starts saying maybe she'll hook up with you, and the two start fighting, with Angel insulting Rei's outfit and giving her money to buy new shoes. It has some other funny ones like wanting you to dance to thinking your "self-training” is "strawberry hunting "(自己鍛錬 as イチゴ探検). It really make the grueling experience of it alright. That said, getting them to join your team seems random, as no matter how big of stacks you lay down, they can take it and run, even if it's a ridicuous amount. You usually want to keep your offers low enough that they don't get angry, but that you won't cry if they take it and run. They also seem to sometimes give you items or magnitite or even cash if they don't join, although sometimes not very much. The worst part of it is that sometimes they ask for specific items you have no chance of having, and just waste your time. I'd often use the item you can use to save in dungeons to just reload sometimes when I gave way more than I should have even given. Overall, I'd say you weren't unlucky, it's just a tough and unforgiving system.
2. Hard Mode:
I played the game on hard mode, and it changes the gave from what sounds like is a cake walk in normal. Boss health is up by 2.0, you take 1.5 times the damage, and the demon compendium's summoning costs are doubled. It turns the game from not needing demons to making them a necessity. I actually like that I need backup, as I wanted to have a good challenge. Easy bosses like Sid become threatening, and normal bosses become a real challenge. The hardest ones were probably Demiurge, hitting hard and freezing my team, the 1st boss in the radio tower, with the 3 hurling multihit electric attacks, and the final boss having a health pool that makes you cry.
Overall, it changes the game from something easy to a game where you have to have a plan. I had to bring up the loyalty of my demons to survive boss battles, and having Rei being an offensive magic build really helped me pull through the game, as I maxed her magic by the end of the game and constanly focused on making her a powerhouse.
3. Loyalty tidbits
Since Loyalty is rather required in Hard, I found that having gift demons was clearly the way to go, as law loyalty takes a long time, and by the time they become very loyal, they are underleveled for your crew. Not to mention, the AI for them can make them do dumb things, like try to cast spells that don't work and sometimes not help at all. But if you do max out your loyalty, you can actually go to the demon combination place and turn the demon into a weapon or armor. They have set items they will turn into, and they actually are pretty sweet gear, as one of the pieces I got from one I kept on Rei all the way to the end of the game.
4. Dungeons:
I mostly agree with what you said with the Dungeons, but a few additional points.
-I thought Chinatown wasn't too bad, especially compared to town hall. The non-idicated teleports were fine enough, and the one's with the singal I think were used as a clue, as those ones are the ones that actually lead to the boss. There also isn't any floors to fall through, and you can map out the area eventually with enough exploring, and it is just one big floor. However, this might just be me, as I've heard some of the games came with a map of it due to people getting lost. Plus the warp puzzle solution is kind of mean.
-The one dungeon by Kumiko's house is really small. To clear it in 10 seconds is really lucky, but it is that short.
-The Hibari Mansion dungeon does suck. It isn't that great. You fall, you warp, you cry a bit.
-Yes, City hall sucks. Probably the worst one in the game. You fall, you go through one way doors, and you have to go up and down with little clear direction of which way to go. It's also Very long. You cry a lot.
-The final dungeon was pretty nice, but I think I got lucky. It's tough and mean, but not as confusing and tear jerking as city hall. I do like the two mini bosses before the final boss.
5: Conclusion:
Honestly, I had a great time. The atmosphere, the gamplay, and all the little touches bring together a good game. I probably will go back and try it again soon, as it was my first Megaten game so far, and I really enjoyed it. Thanks for introducing the game, as I doubt I'd even find it without your video.
"5G towers as a demon"
Well, we did get Chemtrail in SMTIV, so I wouldn't be surprised. There need to be more conspiracy theory/urban legend demons tbh, they're great material for it.
Looking forward to SMT VI with Bill Gates as final boss...
Or some SCP and Cryptic creatures
Well I know they have some cryptic but never hurts to add more
I would be so down for cryptids and urban legends
@@Hrefnesholt not again, Nyarlathotep!
this really sounds a lot like Persona 1 and 2, which I'm all on board for
I really like the "normal guy explores the seedy underbelly of his city" sort of plotline
solid video as always
It’s yo boy linux
This game take place in the same universe as personas
@@maskedgamerjoker6148 No it's not, whoever told that to you my guy has made a Big Lies.
Though Persona 2 and Devil Summoner does had some correlation on how its Gameplay prevail ultimately it was a Game with a Different Universe and Series.
Also Devil Summoner is closer to be canon with SMT than anything because Nocturne Crossover but take that as you may.
@@Azazantei in Persona 2 there’s the Kuzunoha Detective Agency which is part of the game actual plot
@@maskedgamerjoker6148 Well yeah but it isn't Canon to the Persona Universe after what Tatsuya did. *P2 EP Spoiler.
In a way DS only Canon to P2 even though it's an Easter Egg basically provided by your Point not the Persona Universe because Tatsuya aka Philemon did in a way Hard Reset the reality because of the Paradox that he did.
I'd like to imagine for that last dungeon the MC is trying to tell his team what to do while they all either shrug him off or kill themselves cause they'd rather be in a different smt game.
"Okay guys so here's the pl-"
"FUCK YOUR MOUTH BITCH I DO WHAT I WANT!" *fucking dies*
".....okay s-"
*every other demon starts to kill themselves simultaneously*
Every Marsh demon when he stubs his toe: 🤯 💖💯
Eff yeah rpg game reviews 3am in the morning
Hey Johne.
The Chimpo King watching another King, mad respect.
ayyy nice lmao
Yep
Thank you johne for getting me into persona 3 back in 2014, which in turn got me super into the megami tensei series. I have now almost completed every game in both smt and persona. I can never truly thank you enough. Cheers.
"For you? That was some crazy shit, but for Kyouji it was just a monday."
"I have one demon but it's just that pig I got like 6 hours ago."
Too funny
3:19 but how unrealistic is this game thinking that in some universe a character I created can have a girlfriend?
Well, a plus is you atleast don't have to grind Social Links to get her. She's just there at the start
Yeah you tell them! I can have all mighty demons, reincarnation, world destruction by magic. But the most mythical beast of all, a girlfriend? Thats when i draw the line. Come on capcom! Get your game on!
5:48 coming back to reminisce on the pure genius of this line
Legit same, I watch these videos over and over all the time, helps me get through the worst homework has to offer
Jesus is actually in Persona 3, as Messiah. He has a cross and crown of thorns. The fact that he's thanatos below the waist is part of the game's theme of redemption being death
Good shit! It's hard to find solid megaten content that doesn't get overly pedantic or rely on shitting on persona. I really fuck with the laid back humor and style of your content, excited to see more!
I like how this channel started off moreso as SMT memes and now does old SMT reviews and Marsh is raking in viewers. Hidden talents, huh
Welp now you have doomed yourself to making one of these for every smt game
I'll try my best lmao
@@MarshSMT Talk about the demi kids or the Gameboy games, I'm curious bout their stories or differences to the SMT games
@@BrenTenkage Jack Bros for virtual boy is the obvious place to start.
@@jusko2565 now thats an obscure title....do it
@@MarshSMT yeah man keep up the good work
1:32 Charon from SMT 4? I'm sold.
It seems SMT 4 called back to more than the original MT, interesting
@@BrenTenkage He used to let you Continue on death in MT2, so that probably has a bit to do with it. Using his design from this game is cool though.
Too bad the PSP didn't have a play coin system to have Charon bring you back instead of throwing you down to the depths of Hell.
I literally JUST started playing Devil Summoner recently. The PSP version specifically because I wanted to see what it was about. Soul Hackers and the Raidou games all look so interesting and the name "Kuzunoha" just kept appearing wherever I looked in this franchise. I saw the name in Persona 2 aswell.
yea, its strange but Persona is technically in the Devil Summoner timeline because of P2
@@scrappy2082 that would mean that persona is really just devil summoner still...Like how JoJo went from Hamon to Stands!
@@Tessodan Not quite, personas are not demons users summon to receive help, but a hip and modern version of the Jungian archetype of the Shadow. You can talk to demons, and summon personas based off their image, but personas and demons cannot be the same thing. You also can't summon multiple personas at once, you can only "wear" one at the time, while devil summoners can fill their party slots with demons.
At least that's what I got from playing Innocent Sin!
@@XelchanTheBrave That about sums it up. It's too bad we never had Persona users team up with Devil Summoners.
@@ShadowBaofu Spoiler
One of the NPCs in P2 duology is possessed by Kyouji Kuzunoha. He helps out the crew through the game, but doesn't fight himself. He turned him from an unsuccessful dick to the best detective in town. That's the closest we get to them teaming up, though that does imply that the Devil Summoners are in the same world as the Persona users, though Atlus forgot themselves apparently.
Edit: Oh wait your name is Shadow Baofu, you probably already know this.
Dude. I'm not even kidding. This is some of the best content on RUclips. Breaking into games which are primarily in Japan and delving deep into them is fascinating. Whatever new Experiences you create, I'll be here, because by YHWH, this stuff is good.
I appreciate it. I feel the same way, this stuff is just neat and it'd be cool to get more people into it.
I gotta say: these videos on the older/untranslated smt games are incredibly nice as a way to kinda see what they're all about. Thanks so much for making them
This is the Megaten content we NEED
I really like the way the first person dungeons look in this one, they actually look like real places. Fits in well with that whole atmosphere thing you mentioned
i found your channel literally two days ago and ive been watching your vids nonstop, thank you for this :)
" rebellious demons who have manic depression"
"group of rebellious demons with manic depressions" fuckin perfect
It's rad to see someone FINALLY covering this game, our man marsh doing god's work. It's also good you're finally getting some traction man, I hope you keep growing dude.
Really cool to see this. Atlus USA not translating this game is one of their greatest mistakes they've made. I loved Soul hackers and woulda bought its predecessor day one. Great job on the video too dude. Its good to see someone knowledgeable about classic smt, I was really getting tired of hearing brainlet hot takes from people who've obviously never played any game before nocturne, But still think they're experts
half a million on a devil summoner video in current era is insane to me
Here's a couple fun facts about zoma demons, since they're my personal favourite type in the entire series;
The characters used to write zoma roughly translate to artificial demon
Not only do they change form as you fuse more demons into one, but there are even specific demons that can only be gained through this, such as Longinus
The kadmon half of dolly kadmon is taken from Adam kadmon, a term in kaballah for the ultimate form of man
I like to build my zoma, at least in soul hackers, around buffs and curing status ailments, and my personal favourite form is the initial zeed form
The opening where the game drags you though the dungeon while the AI curb stomps everything is such a cool way of showing how out of your league you are.
I've never been able to play this game, but I love it so much. Rei's awesome, and for as much of an ass as Kyoji is, I do like him. Kumiko's great too. Honestly, the Devil Summoner games are probably my favorite 'branch' of the MegaTen franchise. Thanks for playing this and sharing it and your thoughts about it.
It seriously cracks me up that the Domain of Sloth is a running joke.
Gonna have to wait until later to have a good meal with this nice hour-long treat.
Edit: Had a pretty good pizza with this, that said thanks for going through the game Marsh, I've been sorta curious about the Devil Summoner protagonist since you could fight him in Soul Hackers. Glad to finally have an idea on who he was.
In regards to Orgone Ghost, most Devil Summoner demons (many of which also appear in Devil Survivor games) are based on urban and classical myths, as opposed to the traditional divinities you encounter in the mainline series.
(Orgone energy was also believed to be created by intercourse and observing intercourse, which is fitting in-context).
Hope the Saturn version gets translated one day. The Saturn is Sega's most underrated console with a surprisingly good RPG lineup. It deserves better.
I really like how the characters are written in this game. The ending was very bittersweet. I couldn't imagine being in MC's shoes.
I love all your videos but I keep coming back to this one, the jokes were just incredibly well-timed and deadpan.
"All the cops take turns calling you a piece of shit" gets me every time
If smt has thought me anything, the more expensive it is, the more likely that it is new equipment lol
Yeah that's another solid way to tell if you're buying the right thing lmao
I was just talking about Devil Summoner in the past week and how cool it's aesthetic is, so getting a new video about it rules, I really hope it gets a full translation sooner rather than later
Even knowing Japanese, the demon negotiation in this game was frustrating and overly difficult.
Is it THAT bad? Like in Soul Hackers it wasn't that bad. Did they toned down how bad it was?
@ZX-Gear Oh yes, they did. Soul Hackers in general is so much easier than the first Devil Summoner game.
@@jorgebermudez7861 So even knowing Japanese wouldn't do much to help.
@ZX-Gear You pretty much have to apply the "read the room" thing Japanese people have in their culture when addressing other people. It's tough. But with an N4 Japanese level and a dictionary, I managed to recruit a handful , so all hope it's not lost. You can play this game if you have a lot of patience.
@jorgebermudez7861 There is a lot of older Megaten Games that need English Translations. SMT II for PS1 being fucked over by spaghetti code.
Hilariously, Kyouji kept his word. He sent you to the eigth circle of hell for the for the many scratches you put on his body
Forgot to mention that Kinap's theme in Soul Hackers is called "Redman" on the OST which i think is pretty dope. And the Jack Bros in the game are called the Devil Buster Busters which is another reference to Megami Tensei II.
Redman was renamed to Kinap in the english version. Probably because Redman was to culturally insensitive for a chara with native-american motive
"You can't tell your demons what moves to use"
*Persona 3:FES Marin Karin flashbacks intensify*
I'm really loving this channel.
The sweet electro-synth OSTs in the background, the smooth down to earth commentary and the engaging visuals, it's really an extraordinary combination to me.
Keep up the good work!
being put into the body of an elite demon slayer, fighting 5G towers, shungite, and jesus christ. now THIS is how a Your Name sequel should be.
fo real, thank you for doing this LP! love them straightforward walkthrough type Lets Plays.
I am extremely pleased you went so thoroughly through Devil Summoner 1, I've played through the game in Japanese with only a bare-bones guide before the transliteration of the script was even done. I really love some of the gameplay features in it, as well as the funky atmosphere and a lot of the unique designs. While it's rougher around the edges than even its sequel, I think it's a pretty unique game with excellent dungeons and music, despite some of the flaws.
This game looks so badass, really sucks that there’s no translation patch. Atlus could make easy money if they rereleased this game today
Saturn - is reason why this game is not translated
Gotta love how you named your protagonist "Marsh Mellow"
"rebelious demons with maniac depression" thats poetic.
Awesome, I've been looking forward to a new video from you! I never even knew this game existed until recently. I always thought Soul Hackers was the first Devil Summoner game. I absolutely ****ing LOVE the graphics in this game and Soul Hackers. The early 3D with first person dungeon crawling looks so amazing for some reason. The 2D demons look great too.
Always felt the same about this era and Ps2 era graphics, nice to see someone share this opinion.
26:03 according to the wiki, that demon is Agony, which is an Undead who seems to be based on Jesus.
"Origin: Unknown
A zombie who is always carrying a cross. He's a martyr who was not reborn in the Kingdom of God after dying. Because his people did not give their lives for their God, he was reborn as a demon.
Though he lived through many forms of pain, his God did not ask this of him. Because he only cared about pleasing his God, he became a truly miserable soul."
-Akuma Zensho
The most important part of this video is that we learned Marsh's last name is Mellow
I said it before and i wont stop saying it. These are really interesting vids. I love SMT but suffering through the games is such a bother sometimes, and thats where youre different from most channels. You provide such a good platform for anyone interested in SMT. You deserve so many more subs.
Aaaand subbed
Saw your DDS and smt if videos and i hope your channel keeps on growing because your megaten videos are super good
Great timing, I've been working on this one for a while - glad to have you!
I recently found out about your channel, for years Ive been wanting smt content that wasnt overly pretentious and relatable, thank you for your work! It makes me so happy to hear people talk about a game series close to my heart.
The final boss music legitimately sounds like something you'd hear in a detective show imho
"As soon as I got a fucking paper cut, they'd off themselves" I can't completely convey the hilarity that occurred in my head as soon as I heard that line, but thank you for this mental image:
"Ow! Fuckin', cut my finger..." *-1HP* "Hey wait Kresnik what are you doing with that swor--"
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA--" *-375HP*
"....." *+1HP* "Bit overdramatic..."
My dad is pretty into the whole Orgone Energy thing. He has a couple of “Orgone Towers” set up outside his house to repel bad energy.
really enjoy ur reviewsml mate, they are informative as hell, they are not of the same trope as the typical "SMT IS GOD PERSONA IS TRASH" videos that ive watched recently ha. good job, keep it up :)
Demifiend has his pixie. Nakajima has Cerberus.
Raidou has Gouto.
Nahobino has Aogami.
Nanashi has Dogda.
And Devil Summoner has some fucking pig.
Recently found your channel and I have to say you’re one of my favorite channels that talk about Megaten. It’s really cool to see someone talk about these older games! Devil Summoner definitely looks interesting, I do hope that one day Atlus will translate there older games but considering how they didn’t even bother updating the SMT1 app, literally the only official way to play the game, to work on modern phones says a lot. Well once again really enjoy your videos and keep up the good work!
Ive been subscribed for a while and all i have to say is that thank you for getting more and more people into this franchise, my friend recently watched your videos and is now playing soul hackers on his modded 3ds and is absolutely hooked, so thanks marshall, Mucho amor from the Mexican SMT community! ✌️
These reviews are brilliant, and incredibly funny. They're just what I need for grinding entertainment. Also the NINE video had me in tears.
This game is a rare jewel. I really liked the loyalty system just because I enjoy keeping some demons until the end.
If this system is somewhat introduced again with the implementation of the mitamas and a special reward for having
max loyalty, not necessary for the game but a prize for the player, like a special evolution or skill it would be amazing.
Great video I enjoy seeing these games again, so nostalgic
I just started Soul Hackers not too long ago, and I can see why these games are pretty stylish and cool looking.
thank god someone is making comprehensive videos on these more unpopular SMT games, keep it up man!
i played this one using the LPArchives playthrough as a guide and i really hated it but i enjoyed every second of it, ion really got a better way to describe the game.
That playthrough is a huge lifesaver for the longer dialogues. It started to get a little annoying to me near the end because of the bigger plot sections, but I guess I just have to look at that kind of thing as language practice. Pretty cool game when one of the biggest complaints against it is just that we can't read it yet.
Yo its dat boi Simply dad whatup
Thanks for making this video! I’ve been a huge “SMT” fan since I picked up a copy of “Nocturne” back in college in 2004. And this is one of the only “SMT” games I haven’t had a chance to check out because of the language barrier. But I’ve always wanted to because it looked really interesting and closer in gameplay to modern “SMT” games, like its sequel: “Soul Hackers”.
Hey marsh that guy on a cross you were talking about is called agony and his name is based off of the action of Christ praying for his arrest.
The fact that this game has never been translated and you finished it, really shows your dedication.
The orgone energy boss bit was fucken hilarious shit reminds me about a demon called "chemtrails" in SMTIV
"A being of pure hatred disguised as a game developer"
Is their name Odio?
_please get the reference_
based Live A Live player
@@rashrules05 I replayed the game this week.
ah, a cultured commenter definitely
Fellow Live-A-Live players are always nice to see!
yooooooooooo didnt expect a Live a Live reference here
I wish they made more non post-apocalyptic smt games. I like the idea of a normal city with weird events caused by demons
As someone who keeps hoping for more people to talk about the Devil Summoner series, this was one heck of a treat, man!! I'm really hoping you make another video on Soul Hackers or even the Devil Summoner TV series that came out in the 90s.
This is the great content I subbed for, so keep it up~!!
Honestly dude. Just watching your videos alone make me wanna try out the older megaten games besides soul hackers. You're the whole reason why i'm playing SMT if. And now this video alone just makes me wanna play this game despite the language barrier.
Awesome that you're giving these games a try. Reading off of a script can sound discouraging, but it's not so bad, and if you get hooked by the atmosphere you'll have a really good time.
This channel became in just mere hours of listening while farming in warframe, my favorite megaten channel by far
Great video! Interesting to see the PSP version. It definitely seems like the definitive version. So let me give you a little taste of what I had to go through playing the Saturn version...
The game is MUCH slower, both walking speed and battle speed
There are TEN ranks of demon loyalty. It goes up painfully slow in this version too.
The Back-upper, an item that saves your game anywhere, is a one-time use item that must be rebought after use.
But the biggest, most annoying glaring problem is...
You can't see warps on your map. You have to memorize it yourself, making dungeon like Chinatown and the old tomb a huuuuge pain!
You didn't have to say a word about that final boss track for me. Even just hearing it in the background made it clear that it's hyping up you, the devil summoner who's about to take out a goddess. That's cool as hell.
I love your humor and your style, keep it up my dude
"I wouldn't be surprised if 5G towers became a demon"
Fiend Chemtrail: What am I, a joke to you?
Keep doing what you do man. Each video is better than the last. I’m looking forward to what you do next!
Hey, thanks for the old megaten videos! I enjoy the pseudo-walktrough format since i don't know japanese and my current goal is to play the english/spanish translated games. You help me understand more about the lore while feeling as if i was hanging out with a friend. Keep it up!
I really like your coverage of the Megaten games. I hope you continue to do more of this.
I've watched a few of your videos so far and now I'm absolutely hooked on your vids! Thank you dude.
Regarding an official US release, WAY BACK in the day, Atlus USA announced they were bringing it over, and apparently it was largely completed before release was canceled due to issues with the US Saturn market (and possible over concern that the game was called Devil Summoner, where you summoned demons). Somewhere in Atlus USA's archives, assuming they saved it, is a near complete English port of the game. Though considering how they handled the localization of the first Persona game, it's probably not exactly faithful.
Damn good video man. Been working through the SMT series (just finished Devil Survivor Overclocked) and it’s been really cool to see what the games that never made it west are like. Keep up the great work!
Wait! At 1:31 that's Charon, the same person who revives you in smt4 and the same exact facial portrait as well
i like the idea of roleplaying as a foreigner caught in a really bad situation who just can’t understand anything at all but things somehow just work out
Bloody fantaaaaaastic video man, thank you! So thorough and informative. Now I can play Soul Hackers happily :)
From what I've heard, Soul Hackers seems to repeat a few themes, game ideas & locations originally seen here... almost like this game is the Mother 1 to Earthbound - a premium prototype of sorts. Although, as you've shown, absolutely it's own incredible work too. Just interesting.
Thanks again, will be watching your other videos too.
Dude, you’re like the best megaten channel on RUclips. Everyone else is like condescending but you’re chill