Todd Rundgren - Property (1991)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
  • This collaboration with Todd Rundgren (1991) brings live act

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  • @tkrueger
    @tkrueger 6 лет назад +37

    Actually, this one was modeled and animated by the late Eric Myers and me, and rendered on a stack of 20 Amigas that Eric wrote a networking stack for (a serial protocol based sneaker net)...Todd, Eric and Danny O´Connor shot the video for the screens all over the San Francisco Bay Area. Eric and I would each take a scene, come up with some crazy ideas, then hand off the Lightwave scene to the other and he or I would take over from the last frame of the scene that was handed over, until we had them all nailed...it was an epic process, supported by the great Alan Hastings (Lightwave), Stuart Furgosen (Modeler), Tim Jenison and his team at NewTek (Video Toaster)...Alan and Stuart added new features to the software on a daily basis, based on our needs and ideas. This is how we did Property, Fascist Christ, and the epic Theology videos. Todd animated Change Myself and asked me to help him with some of the models, which is how we started working together at the time (and continued to do so for almost 25 years). I guess one could say we made CG history, even though most "kids" today wouldn`t know what CG was like before Macs and high-powered Windows machines came along. When I look at software like Cinema 4D today, I have to smile about how far accessibility to such powerful features has come.

    • @DonMacGillivray
      @DonMacGillivray 6 лет назад +1

      Thanks so much Till for taking the time to describe the process. Still amazed whenever I watch those videos on the desktop collection release. All of these works stands the test of time. Pioneers you are ......

    • @pracstock
      @pracstock 5 лет назад +3

      Thanks Till, you guys were WAY ahead of the curve. The hours devoted to rendering all that video are inconceivable by today's standards, and the artistic and "message" content has rarely been equaled. Todd's new autobiography gives some insight into your process. You are featured in quite a few chapters!

    • @JustinSBarrett
      @JustinSBarrett 4 года назад +1

      Going through some old VHS tapes to prepare for a move, and found Todd's "The Desktop Collection" video, which has Change Myself, Property, Fascist Christ, and a bunch more. Had to pop on RUclips to watch them again (don't have a working VHS machine), and was pleasantly surprised to find your comments. Thanks for sharing more about how it all came together!

    • @riseofthethorax
      @riseofthethorax 4 года назад

      It is a work of art and understand the feat it was. My colleges directir, Jim Hollan authored the SIGGRAPH submission Stan and Stella breaking the ICE, which he said was a proof of concept used to sell HD Television in the 80s when he worked fir Sony, I think it was. I owned three Amigas, I still have an Amiga 3000 which ai regret as the 2000 was toaster compatible.. I pushed the use of blender BTW, and if you ask Brad Carvey, ot Brads sysadmin, Mark Fleharty, they know me. As well as Mark Henne of Pixar, Ton Roosendaal, and Nic Panagos who worked on Kung Fu Panda. I'm no longer an animator, I could have made it as technical director. I once used Makefiles to render wrangle. And if you search for my animation Rise of The Thorax, keep in mind a SGI employee told me it helped sell SGI's and Wavefront, which predates Maya. I believe Alias arrogant management was the reason I was forced onto the Maya platform after they pulled licensing for Kinemation, 3Design, Composer and the TAV suite. But if that didn't happen, I wouldn't have the distaste for computer aided licensing or DRM which takes tools and media outof the hands of artists and consumers. Supporting blender was necessary for two reasons: artists should always have access to their instruments just as accessibility to trumpets drove Jazz among poor black artists.. Anyhow, I understand DRM is needed by some to survive, but I can argue that to pirate software is a great way for people to install malicious software on their computers, and is why jailbreaking phones makes you vulnerable. Apple will not permit apps onto the app store that permit people to compile applications on the platform as it might introduce viruses and malicious exploits.. Linux has an installer app store it is called synaptic, I think.. And the purpose is to guarantee users never are exploited by middle man and the vulnerability that comes from untrusted sources. Also the GPL license prevents packaged distribution of licensed libraries, to encourage reuse, prevent security vulnerabilities and decrease fragmentation, and save space. It is combinations of these ideals, that make Linux and the like better platforms. Note Windows is plagued by security holes and fragmentation because they haven't adopted open source (which is not making software free, it is a superset of GPL'd freeware). Anyhow.. Blender is the "little O" in runtime software behavior, the fire beneath the ass of commercial developers, the strive to innovate beyond common sensical intuitive development of tools, it maintains that products that enter the market place have purpose and utility favorable to consumers.. It should inspire developers to know the artists and share knowledge. Anyhow, sorry for the Rant.. But keep in mind if it weren't for competitive free software that infringed on patents like BMRT, there might never have been shaders for the NVidia graphics cards that make realtime realistic graphics apart from the limitations of raytracing, such as the artistic needs to tell stories, such as Pixars need to present the reflection of Buzz lightyears face in his helmet when light simulation would warp that shot..

    • @riseofthethorax
      @riseofthethorax 4 года назад

      Till Krueger oh BTW, my first inclination to get the Amiga, was ignorance due to clever exploits like the boing demo which was just a circle with CLUT (COLOR LOOKUP TABLE) cyclic animation. And even the Mac had no apps for year after its release. I sorta hated waiting for NewTek advertising fir years before the Toaster was available. It reminds me of the time it took SGI to force the merging of Alias, Wavefront and TDI into a single product, why couldn't they just have not forced users onto a unproven platform and not have used Chris Landreth to lie visually. Chris could make Bingo with anything as I'm sure he just used simple relative key-framing to make that demo. And according to Ton Roosendaal in an interview with Blender GURU, he deduced from Autodesk stock filings, that there is no more than 15,000 licenses of Maya today, and both 3DMAX AND MAYA Comprise less than a hundred million of Autodesk's revenue a year. See what pissing off artists like me do.. Also, I know that why SGI WAS forced to purchase ALIAS, WAVEFRONT AND TDI, is Microsoft in 1996 announced at SIGGRAPH in New Orleans, the best SIGGRAPH I ever attended, that they had bought Softimage, all the developers and companies feared being forced out of business by Microsoft.. But what killed them, was an over-zealous arrogance for power, and unfair treatment of sincere consumers. I pleaded with Wavefront to sell me a license of TAV, they denied their fiduciary responsibility ti SGI's creditors to permit me to pay thousands for software. what inspired Ton to develop Blender the choice of buying SGI hardware juxtaposed to buying software, he bought SGI's for his company and implemented his own solution.

  • @Tropia
    @Tropia 6 лет назад +15

    I'll be your fantasy
    But I won't be your property
    Love you eternally
    But I'll never be your property
    Love from me's not guaranteed
    Just because you think I'm property
    I can love you totally
    And still not be your property
    Every girl and boy wants to grow up to be loved someday
    You can't wait to give your heart away
    But it's like worship in their eyes, walking down the aisle
    When you slip on that ring, they start to treat you like a thing, yeah
    I call it slavery
    When you call someone your property
    Don't waste your vanity
    I will never be your property
    Something wonderful happens when people fall in love
    Your happiness is all they're thinking of
    But it's like, anything you say 'til the wedding day
    When they get it in ink, they start to tell you what to think, yeah
    Darkest day in history
    When someone invented property
    Cause of our misery
    Is the constant lust for property
    Since God began it
    We've been dividing up the planet
    When you see something you want it
    You've gotta put your name tag on it
    And we go on carving
    Meanwhile half the world is starving
    It's a crime
    Hands off what is mine
    Take all you can 'til you slam on the parking brake
    And you need space to make your own mistakes
    But it's like I won't hold you back 'til the bags are packed
    Then they're struttin' about like they own you inside out
    I'll be your fantasy
    But I won't be your property
    Love you eternally
    But I'll never be your property
    Love from me's not guaranteed
    Just because you think I'm property
    I can love you totally
    And still not be your property
    I call it slavery
    When you call someone your property
    Don't waste your vanity
    I will never be your property
    Darkest day in history
    When someone invented property
    'Cause of our misery
    Is the constant lust for property

    • @andrewgillis8572
      @andrewgillis8572 4 года назад +1

      too smart to be a hit - same with the structure containing 2 counter-melody middle 8 thingies - IMo Todd was entering a golden age, Arena LP much later has some dandies -the Amsterdam Metropole/Paradiso show from 2012 is awe-inspiring

  • @incapsula7705
    @incapsula7705 6 лет назад +4

    It's like he predicted vaporwave!!!!!!!

  • @2wayplebney
    @2wayplebney 2 года назад +3

    Fantastic song, and an excellent video.

  • @biltrex
    @biltrex Месяц назад

    I started working at NewTek in 1997, through '99, then came back in '07 through 2020. When I first saw this video I was absolutely in awe of what could be done at the time. Plus the song is just a great song, one I keep coming back to lo these many years later. So for what it's worth, in my eyes you guys were absolute legends and pioneers in this kind of video making!

  • @moonbeanification
    @moonbeanification 7 лет назад +7

    I love Todd... he sings the things in my soul...

  • @mppmcps
    @mppmcps 14 лет назад +5

    Todd is amazing!

  • @kevinc6943
    @kevinc6943 Год назад

    From the early 90s good stuff.

  • @MidWestConcertVideo2
    @MidWestConcertVideo2 6 лет назад +3

    One of the astounding things is that Todd animated this video. Using an Amiga and Lightwave on a Video Toaster.

  • @bungalowmo
    @bungalowmo 13 лет назад +3

    This is one of my favorite CD's of his....Totally dig it.

  • @incognito7479
    @incognito7479 6 лет назад +2

    Wore this out when first released. My first look at the video. Where have I been? Hiding.

  • @h.m.7218
    @h.m.7218 7 лет назад +3

    Visually speaking, the best ever TR vidéo. And excellent song, of course.

  • @brootapple7620
    @brootapple7620 5 лет назад +1

    We can wait to give our hearts away todd

  • @darrenbethell7451
    @darrenbethell7451 6 лет назад +1

    Another classic

  • @pingumanbr
    @pingumanbr 15 лет назад +2

    awesome. I did not realize of this video xeistance.

  • @danblo-dl8hl
    @danblo-dl8hl 7 лет назад +3

    1993. 1991 was Change Myself.

  • @LoudValves
    @LoudValves 5 лет назад +3

    as always, Todd was so far ahead of the tech curve it is spooky ....

  • @MarquisDeSang
    @MarquisDeSang Год назад

    Lightwave is back baby!

  • @catgirl6717
    @catgirl6717 15 лет назад +2

    love this song! thx for posting - I forgot about this vid!

  • @fueledbylove
    @fueledbylove Год назад

    1991 the year of the Video Toaster...ah I wanted one so bad but all I ever got was the VHS demo tape. Well, it was probably a way over my head steep learning curve. Another thing I learned that year was about a certain girl but I won't print that here, lets just say if you snooze ya lose.

  • @marlasinger6989
    @marlasinger6989 7 лет назад +3

    1991? He toured w No World Order in '94... I saw him in Hollywood that spring.

  • @axewazerwazer
    @axewazerwazer 16 лет назад +1

    cool

  • @kevinc6943
    @kevinc6943 Год назад

    Don't call someone your property......

  • @DizziNY1
    @DizziNY1 7 лет назад +3

    I am for the sovereignty of countries but when a country tries to claim another's land as their own, no, not with that

  • @manysons
    @manysons 12 лет назад +1

    Would love to see the lyrics.

  • @dlgm161
    @dlgm161 Год назад

    What album is this from? Thanks!

  • @Rachet88
    @Rachet88 14 лет назад +1

    Well darn. They edited out most of the guitar solo! What's up with that?

  • @leemacdonald2425
    @leemacdonald2425 11 лет назад +1

    awesome song this is mike though not lee go todd go,,,,,,,

  • @ledboots2009
    @ledboots2009 14 лет назад +2

    Great tune but they cut out most of this killer lead guitar break.

    • @rednoise0
      @rednoise0 5 лет назад +2

      I guess this would be the "hit single version", if the song had been released as a single.

  • @cemegonuts
    @cemegonuts 6 лет назад +2

    sounds like basis of the republican platform... hahaha :D