They are currently spending a lot of money and effort regenerating the town centre so hopefully it will be looking better soon. I don't mind shopping there as it has a decent mix of shops for a small town, and it's just much less stressful than going into Manchester.
I was born and raised in Oldham but moved away in the Mid Sixties to the East Midlands. I think the city of Leicester is currently very depressing but looking at the content of this video can only comment - I probably did the right thing although I loved living in Oldham at the time.
A trip from the top of town, down Yorkshire St. to Mumps ... Haven't walked that path for a long time ... I do remember Mumps bus station wall from the top deck of a bus as a young lad ... There was a poem chalked on the wall which I still remember to this day ... Behind the iron gates of fate The seeds of time were sown And watered by the deeds of those Who know and who were known Knowledge is a deadly friend If no-one sets the rules The fate of all mankind I see Is in the hands of fools Home of the "Tubigrip" people it used to say on Mumps Bridge ... I am one of those people ... Does anyone remember the tower club?
I also worked in oldham town square in the 80s it was a thriving busy town , you were fighting your way through the centre at lunch time , great shops and outside and indoor market , what a shame it has become a town no one wants to visit and we all know why .
There are many northern towns in the same predicament ,labour councils are a big part of the demise of these once great towns can't say why for obvious reasons !
If you have lived nearby for long enough you may recall, When a bunch of Council employees were caught for taking bribes from a large local building firm but nobody lost their jobs or were prosecuted? The Saint Peter's centre, built in the middle of the town that consisted of a large tower block where most of the floors were never occupied from the day it was finished to when it was pulled down. Concrete shop bays that most were never occupied. Being on top of a hill, the wind howled through all the alley ways. A subway were most of the entry/exits were via very steep concrete steps where once you tripped you would tumble all the way to the bottom. The one entrance that was a sloping pedestrian walkway looked too much like a slip road and had a few cars driven down it into the subway. All of it demolished and filled in with no trace left after only being there a few years. I think we are still paying for it through our council tax for it to have been built until about 2030 and then we can start paying the demolition costs. Don't get me started on Batty's folly, the glass bridge built over the top of Manchester road. a million pounds was spent on a glass bridge' instead of just crossing the road on pedestrian crossing , using the glass bridge involved walking in the opposite direction for about 50 yards, then climbing stairs or a ramp up to about 60 feet above the road then crossing the bridge, which was about three times the width of the road, descending the steps or ramp on the other side and then walking the 50 yards back to the roadway pavement. I never saw a single person using this bridge to cross the road. Again it has been demolished with no trace of it or the costs of building or bribes paid and the costs of demolition were probably woven into the costs of putting tram tracks through Manchester road roundabout.
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i am from oldham and have not been into the town centre for years, everyone avoids it like the plague, it is not a happy place at all. i also notice how everyone is walking with a limp and just looks disabled it is shockingly sad to see.
Former mill towns are pretty much all in a bad way, nothing left to fill the void of manufacturing/textiles…been a slow and steady rot since the early 90’s
Hi was born in Chadderton 1951, think the rot started in mid sixties and seventies, myself and a friend was drinking in the Hunt lane tavern and decided to head for Australia in 1974,best move we ever did, sadly family all past away, except for older sister living in Middleton, stay safe
I have visited different parts of England mainly in the South and have not heard much positive things from Oldham. I have been there many times visiting in laws around Greater Manchester area and in Oldham. I’m from Helsinki Finland and I personally don’t think this look as bad as people say it does.
Oh nice, I’ve visited Finland once when I was a teenager. It’s on my list to visit again soon. Oldham isn’t all bad, I’ve definitely seen worse towns in to UK
Well it’s still celebrating a rich, diverse, cultural mix, you should all be happy the way the council spends the council tax , 😂. The people never bothered to vote so it’s been taken over by those whose interest it was to vote.
Looks like town planners of the past have done their worst. Glad to see St Mary’s, The Greaves Arms, Church Terrace escaped their clutches, and was that Barclay’s Bank at bottom of what was Lord Street still standing? Feel for the elderly in Oldham, lot’s of places to trip up on the beautification madness.
This was my first time there so I can’t compare to what it used to be like but down Hilton Arcade they show lots of pictures of how the town had changed over the years and I know it was a boom town
The only problem with Oldham is there aren’t enough decent big stores to attract shoppers. It’s Like every other small Town with one exception. It’s full of habitual moaners ! Anything positive is immediately criticised. The town is in the middle of regeneration at the moment and the changes looks promising. The naysayers are on the case already and haven’t a good word to say about it. . Encourage more artisan shops and a big name store would be a start. Be interesting to see the new Market extension in the spindles shopping centre.
As someone who grew up and lives in Oldham it’s such a shame to see the outside market now and to see spindles with hardly any shops, I used to love shopping in Oldham but it’s really bad, even though they’re developing the town they’ll still be nothing. Why come Oldham when you can go on the tram to Manchester…!
@@scenicrouteyt my parents, grandparents, aunties and uncles wouldn't even recognise it any more and part of me is glad they aren't here anymore to see it. How sad is that??
@@scenicrouteyt yes chadderton really my dad went to Bluecoat and boarded there when it was a boys only school for poor families but my mums family and my dad's all worked hard and made a success of their lives here in Oldham, chadderton and Hollinwood. They were proud of where they grew up and came from.
Im from oldham but ill avoid oldham center if i can its run down and not what it was when i was growing up the trams are to get people out not bring people in
I grew up in Oldham from 1966 to 86. I remember when every other person suffered from byssinosis, tuberculosis, bronchitis, lung cancer, cirrhosis of the liver or polio... you know, the good old days. And in the good old days they moaned about how much better it used to be when there was rationing and no one had nowt but nits but oh how we laughed because if you didn't you'd cry. And back further they moaned about how much better it was in the olden days when the shit house roof leaked and how funny that was and it was no fun any more since indoor toilets. And blah blah blah.
you must of filmed early morning try filming at wk end , it's a shit hole now . Was once the best town for shopping and nightlife! R.I.P Oldham you have been destroyed 😢
Want to live around where i live not cafe or chipshop or nothing one old filthy chip shop got burger from it months ago i nearly got sick after eating it nothing only petrol station across road and get bus two miles down road its not much better two old pubs no one in them place is dead end
I was brought up in oldham in the 60s it's the worst place in England no prospects for anyone oldham council ruined oldham AVOID this town I've moved on best thing I ever did
It seems the Labour council and its 'shenanigans' has destroyed the town centre, Tommyfield Market and virtually everything else. Voting for independent parties will end all this. As a town, with some fine architecture (much tragically derelict and magnificent views, it has so much going for it. I left there after 10 years, determined to get out before the town was cut off from the main rail network when that damn tram was foisted on the town and the swift 15 minute train ride to Manchester beme a 35 minute ordeal.. Visiting a few weeks ago, I was appalled at the decline of the town.
Looks like your there when the shops aren't even open.... Go to any town at silly o clock it will look deprived Why not go on a weekend or evening time especially where the chicken shops are.. .. Like it or not thats where the action is,people come from out of town for food here..... And stop crying about the good old days and move on...
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Sad to see towns like this where it used to be a bustling hub and now pretty run down
I guess once they lost the cotton industry it’s been hard to recover
06:55 Did they literally stick a cinema on to the back of that old building?!
Yeah that’s what it looks like 🤷🏻♂️😂
That is a bit mad.
Yes they did it's the old town hall and old police station they have restaurant in the police but now
I worked in Oldham for over 35 yrs,and have seen it slowly but surely deteriorate into the complete dump it has become.
Oldham was one of the best places in 70s and 80s for shopping the good old days have gone along with the pub and free speech
Yeah the area has definitely had quite a steep decline over the last few decades
shut up
NO SMOKING - said the all powerful council.
They are currently spending a lot of money and effort regenerating the town centre so hopefully it will be looking better soon. I don't mind shopping there as it has a decent mix of shops for a small town, and it's just much less stressful than going into Manchester.
I’ll have to go back and film when they have finished to see the difference.
Yeah I wouldn’t want to go into Manchester all the time either
I was born and raised in Oldham but moved away in the Mid Sixties to the East Midlands. I think the city of Leicester is currently very depressing but looking at the content of this video can only comment - I probably did the right thing although I loved living in Oldham at the time.
A trip from the top of town, down Yorkshire St. to Mumps ... Haven't walked that path for a long time ... I do remember Mumps bus station wall from the top deck of a bus as a young lad ... There was a poem chalked on the wall which I still remember to this day ...
Behind the iron gates of fate
The seeds of time were sown
And watered by the deeds of those
Who know and who were known
Knowledge is a deadly friend
If no-one sets the rules
The fate of all mankind I see
Is in the hands of fools
Home of the "Tubigrip" people it used to say on Mumps Bridge ... I am one of those people ... Does anyone remember the tower club?
That’s a great poem, thanks for sharing.
What year do you remember these from?
Its true
‘The home of the tubular bandage’ it used to say on it
The lyrics of a classic King Crimson song called Epitaph from their "In the Court of the Crimson King" album.
I also worked in oldham town square in the 80s it was a thriving busy town , you were fighting your way through the centre at lunch time , great shops and outside and indoor market , what a shame it has become a town no one wants to visit and we all know why .
Why?
What would you say caused the downfall of a bustling town?
There are many northern towns in the same predicament ,labour councils are a big part of the demise of these once great towns can't say why for obvious reasons !
Oldham born and bred the decline is shocking
How long have you lived there for?
@@scenicrouteyt all my life l was a teen in the 70s Oldham was brilliant great pubs and night clubs it's such a mess now it's terrible 😔
That’s what I keep hearing.
Do you think there’s any chance of it coming back?
@@scenicrouteyt to be honest no it's too far gone it's very sad 😢
Back in the 1970s I knew Oldham quite well as my wife worked there but I hardly recognise any of it now. It looks awful now.
Yeah a lot of people are saying something very similar
Great people from Oldham, a bit rough around the edges but sound.
Yeah I felt a nice sense of community being there
I agree
Beautiful Oldham Town
Can’t tell if sarcasm 🙃
If you have lived nearby for long enough you may recall, When a bunch of Council employees were caught for taking bribes from a large local building firm but nobody lost their jobs or were prosecuted? The Saint Peter's centre, built in the middle of the town that consisted of a large tower block where most of the floors were never occupied from the day it was finished to when it was pulled down. Concrete shop bays that most were never occupied. Being on top of a hill, the wind howled through all the alley ways. A subway were most of the entry/exits were via very steep concrete steps where once you tripped you would tumble all the way to the bottom. The one entrance that was a sloping pedestrian walkway looked too much like a slip road and had a few cars driven down it into the subway. All of it demolished and filled in with no trace left after only being there a few years. I think we are still paying for it through our council tax for it to have been built until about 2030 and then we can start paying the demolition costs. Don't get me started on Batty's folly, the glass bridge built over the top of Manchester road. a million pounds was spent on a glass bridge' instead of just crossing the road on pedestrian crossing , using the glass bridge involved walking in the opposite direction for about 50 yards, then climbing stairs or a ramp up to about 60 feet above the road then crossing the bridge, which was about three times the width of the road, descending the steps or ramp on the other side and then walking the 50 yards back to the roadway pavement. I never saw a single person using this bridge to cross the road. Again it has been demolished with no trace of it or the costs of building or bribes paid and the costs of demolition were probably woven into the costs of putting tram tracks through Manchester road roundabout.
Oh wow, that’s awful. I had no idea about that!
No wonder the decline of the town then
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Poor Oldham it looks depressed like the whole of the UK 😢
Yeah unfortunately more and more towns I visit are looking more empty and deprived
Just looks like anywhere else in the UK no individuality just faceless corporations and interlopers
Yep, nothing independent left.
However I did feel a good sense of community from the locals
i am from oldham and have not been into the town centre for years, everyone avoids it like the plague, it is not a happy place at all. i also notice how everyone is walking with a limp and just looks disabled it is shockingly sad to see.
Definitely a drop from its former self that’s for sure
I live in Oldham too and… no they don’t? The town centre is like the go-to place in Oldham especially King’s street.
Former mill towns are pretty much all in a bad way, nothing left to fill the void of manufacturing/textiles…been a slow and steady rot since the early 90’s
Yeah it’s a real shame. 100s of towns up and down the country from different industries
Hi was born in Chadderton 1951, think the rot started in mid sixties and seventies, myself and a friend was drinking in the Hunt lane tavern and decided to head for Australia in 1974,best move we ever did, sadly family all past away, except for older sister living in Middleton, stay safe
Australia definitely sounds like a good move! Hope you’re enjoying it over there
The time must be before 11am the natives don’t get out of bed before then
It was 10:45am 😂
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I have visited different parts of England mainly in the South and have not heard much positive things from Oldham.
I have been there many times visiting in laws around Greater Manchester area and in Oldham.
I’m from Helsinki Finland and I personally don’t think this look as bad as people say it does.
Oh nice, I’ve visited Finland once when I was a teenager. It’s on my list to visit again soon.
Oldham isn’t all bad, I’ve definitely seen worse towns in to UK
Oldham was a great town then Oldham council said wait we got an idea the towns been phooked ever since
Those famous last words..
Well it’s still celebrating a rich, diverse, cultural mix, you should all be happy the way the council spends the council tax , 😂. The people never bothered to vote so it’s been taken over by those whose interest it was to vote.
In the 80's and 90's Oldham was a nice place to live, now I am ashamed to call it home
You still living there?
@@scenicrouteyt what happened here? What changed?
Some of the other comments give a rough answer, I’m not too sure myself
Must have been filmed on a Saturday quite a few people about lol
Surprisingly it was a Tuesday!
Looks like town planners of the past have done their worst. Glad to see St Mary’s, The Greaves Arms, Church Terrace escaped their clutches, and was that Barclay’s Bank at bottom of what was Lord Street still standing? Feel for the elderly in Oldham, lot’s of places to trip up on the beautification madness.
This was my first time there so I can’t compare to what it used to be like but down Hilton Arcade they show lots of pictures of how the town had changed over the years and I know it was a boom town
Barclays has now gone, building remains. Barclays have also vanished from Ashton and Rochdale too…
Trip into Manchester now😮
Tommyfeild market is now a dive full of Asian stalls a depressing place to visit
This was the only time I’ve visited.
I walked through the market after I’d finished and most stalls were closed
K.
How much the rent is for one room a month for one guy there?
I would imagine they start from around £450/500 for a room
The only problem with Oldham is there aren’t enough decent big stores to attract shoppers. It’s
Like every other small
Town with one exception. It’s full of habitual moaners ! Anything positive is immediately criticised. The town is in the middle of regeneration at the moment and the changes looks promising. The naysayers are on the case already and haven’t a good word to say about it. . Encourage more artisan shops and a big name store would be a start. Be interesting to see the new
Market extension in the spindles shopping centre.
Yeah fingers crossed it makes a positive change and undoes som of the previous damage
Everyone can have an opinion though doesn't make them moaners .You sound like one of the councillors.😂😂😂
@@paulinehalkyard9312 most of them add negative comments to every single piece of news about Oldham. Constant Negativity tends to breed moaners.
What do you expect .. you can arrive in Manchester on a tram .. within 20 mins ..
There’s lots of places that are easily accessible to Manchester that still have life
As someone who grew up and lives in Oldham it’s such a shame to see the outside market now and to see spindles with hardly any shops, I used to love shopping in Oldham but it’s really bad, even though they’re developing the town they’ll still be nothing. Why come Oldham when you can go on the tram to Manchester…!
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Wow ghost town lived there most if my life left 8 years ago sad 😢
Where did you move to? Have you been back to visit yet?
@ I moved to Vegas and sadly no not been back in 8 years hoping to visit soon to see family, great video felt like I went back for a minute ha ha 😊
@EnglishRoseVlog oh vegas sounds great fun. Definitely an upgrade!
Haha, pleased to help
@ yes lol I never thought I would go from Oldham to Vegas its defo better lol 😂
you went on a good day fortunately.
Was my second attempt at filming, first time as I was getting my camera out of the boot it started absolutely tipping it down
Why don't they leave everything alone it's just so infuriating whats happening now.
Starts with greed
I live in Oldham it's the land of the living dead
You not like it then?
I live here not that bad older generation really top folk
Yeah the people seemed really friendly
I miss oldham edge we used to take stolen cars on roman path nr the pub in the 90s, GOOD OLD TIME'S
😂😂
Looks good on a bright day - its grey & wet most times & even if its a sunny day its windy & cold .
That was actually the second time I tried to film there.
First time I parked up and it started raining! 🌧️
@@scenicrouteyt 😁😁😁👍 brilliant
I've traveled all over. It's not the best by a long shot, bit nowhere near the worst
Yeah I’ve also seen worse towns
Don’t fort all that is coming down the new market is going inside where the the building work is taking place next to the cinema
It's not even a bad place nothing happens in Oldham walk in moss side
Next time I head into Manchester I’m planning to do a Moss Side walk
All the old mill towns have Sadly ended up like this.
Yeah it’s a real shame. Because they’re all filled with such history
Greater Manchester is no more. Too many rough areas no offence
I can't look it annoys me. What a shit hole breaks my heart RIP Oldham town centre 😢
Yeah everyone keeps saying how it’s gone massively downhill.
Sad to see
@@scenicrouteyt my parents, grandparents, aunties and uncles wouldn't even recognise it any more and part of me is glad they aren't here anymore to see it. How sad is that??
That is sad. Did you grow up in the town?
@@scenicrouteyt yes chadderton really my dad went to Bluecoat and boarded there when it was a boys only school for poor families but my mums family and my dad's all worked hard and made a success of their lives here in Oldham, chadderton and Hollinwood. They were proud of where they grew up and came from.
Im from oldham but ill avoid oldham center if i can its run down and not what it was when i was growing up the trams are to get people out not bring people in
Where do you go to go shopping instead now?
@scenicrouteyt in shaw my local Aldi and Asda to be honest with you and I tend to do alot of online shopping as well
I grew up in Oldham from 1966 to 86.
I remember when every other person suffered from byssinosis, tuberculosis, bronchitis, lung cancer, cirrhosis of the liver or polio... you know, the good old days.
And in the good old days they moaned about how much better it used to be when there was rationing and no one had nowt but nits but oh how we laughed because if you didn't you'd cry.
And back further they moaned about how much better it was in the olden days when the shit house roof leaked and how funny that was and it was no fun any more since indoor toilets.
And blah blah blah.
Haha, you make a very good point.
Humans as a species don’t like change
you must of filmed early morning try filming at wk end , it's a shit hole now . Was once the best town for shopping and nightlife! R.I.P Oldham you have been destroyed 😢
It was 10:45am on a Tuesday. That was the only time I could make it. I will go back and film another video at a weekend soon.
shout out the homeskis lets go making it on another list (im from higgy shiggy)
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@@scenicrouteyt with a former oldski we love to the old ham cant wait for new ham might be less dark if ykwim
@@ellebeaver niwym 😂
Want to live around where i live not cafe or chipshop or nothing one old filthy chip shop got burger from it months ago i nearly got sick after eating it nothing only petrol station across road and get bus two miles down road its not much better two old pubs no one in them place is dead end
It also looks like a Sunday go during the week or a Saturday
This was actually filmed on a Tuesday
Bolton can't be far behind
Bolton didn’t seem too bad when I visited recently.
Plus apparently they are redoing the whole town centre soon
Dead as a door nail. Not like the early 90s
Yeah I can imagine it used to be a busting little town
All these s.....y little northern towns are as bad as each other...have you been to Birkenhead recently ?...or Burnley ?...
No I haven’t. But I agree with others I have visited, like Runcorn recently
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Goes with the useless Labour Council. It’s becoming the dustbin of Greater Manchester.
So sad to see this once busy towns demise.
This is the overwhelming sentiment of everyone
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Shell of its former self
Most depraved? Clearly you dnt know wot your talking about yes its run down but the ppl dnt go round stabbing and robbing each other.
It doesn’t say depraved.
It was named the most deprived town in an ONS (Office for National Statistics) study
@@scenicrouteyt depraved is Manchester city center i cnt take my kid ther coz of the homeless drug addicts.
Oldham is a complete mess
Yeah not my favourite place I’ve visited
I was brought up in oldham in the 60s it's the worst place in England no prospects for anyone oldham council ruined oldham AVOID this town I've moved on best thing I ever did
Seems to be the overwhelming opinion on the town.
Where did you move to?
It seems the Labour council and its 'shenanigans' has destroyed the town centre, Tommyfield Market and virtually everything else. Voting for independent parties will end all this. As a town, with some fine architecture (much tragically derelict and magnificent views, it has so much going for it. I left there after 10 years, determined to get out before the town was cut off from the main rail network when that damn tram was foisted on the town and the swift 15 minute train ride to Manchester beme a 35 minute ordeal.. Visiting a few weeks ago, I was appalled at the decline of the town.
I didn’t realise they cut off the rail network. That by itself would have a huge impact on the town, let alone everything else that’s happened
Looks like your there when the shops aren't even open....
Go to any town at silly o clock it will look deprived
Why not go on a weekend or evening time especially where the chicken shops are.. ..
Like it or not thats where the action is,people come from out of town for food here.....
And stop crying about the good old days and move on...
It was at 10:45am on a Tuesday. So I agree not a busy time but this wasn’t on purpose. I do most of my videos in the week days
Gutted of all life and soul
Shadow of its former self
What a toilet.
Can’t expect too much from the most deprived town in the UK but I’ve also definitely seen worse!
Those donuts are amazing though to be fair so swings and roundabouts:
Almost makes it worth it 😂
Wrong