How Imu Tricked The 20 Kings Into Going To War With Joyboy

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    2:14 The One Piece Cycle
    4:06 The Allied Kings Were Good?
    6:32 Alabasta Foreshadowed Everything
    10:39 Imu’s Great Deception
    12:54 Lily Is The Key
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  • @MrMorj
    @MrMorj  2 месяца назад +37

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    • @peterlynch9929
      @peterlynch9929 2 месяца назад +7

      Where’s the Adidas link? I don’t see it in the description

    • @MrMorj
      @MrMorj  2 месяца назад +6

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    • @jacquespolome9097
      @jacquespolome9097 2 месяца назад +7

      @@MrMorj Sorry but that ain't the case. Cannot find any link

    • @user-uu6tt2eo9s
      @user-uu6tt2eo9s 2 месяца назад +3

      The adidas ads are honestly kind of impressive for a one piece RUclips channel I hope they give u a pro model shoe one day

    • @KizaruGlazers
      @KizaruGlazers 2 месяца назад +2

      Link isn't visible anywhere. At least not on PC

  • @lr_n1752
    @lr_n1752 2 месяца назад +621

    Imu only deceived them by telling them the raid will end in fail

    • @jeromebranchetti6002
      @jeromebranchetti6002 2 месяца назад +29

      To this day I still go and watch those videos 😢 hoping it ends in failure

    • @Problemsolver434
      @Problemsolver434 2 месяца назад +24

      Give it a rest 😏

    • @sals4767
      @sals4767 2 месяца назад +5

      *failure

    • @user-vh8ws3hc7m
      @user-vh8ws3hc7m 2 месяца назад +22

      U gotta let it go man

    • @Ktbcuts
      @Ktbcuts 2 месяца назад +6

      😂😂😂

  • @Freedom_iwant
    @Freedom_iwant 2 месяца назад +310

    Oda:- you cant leak my plan if i dont have one
    Morj :- Nah I'd cook

  • @poutineausyropderable7108
    @poutineausyropderable7108 2 месяца назад +72

    Alabasta is the void century.
    Dressrosa is the present/future.
    And Skypia is the entire story.

  • @ultimatehaki1
    @ultimatehaki1 2 месяца назад +231

    Morj going for the world record on how many times he can spoil the story.

    • @ralph4370
      @ralph4370 2 месяца назад +6

      Like his theory on the Wano Raid failing...

    • @xdj_doritox6200
      @xdj_doritox6200 2 месяца назад

      @@Nobody0117 ahora que lo dices de esa manera tiene mucho sentido

    • @mannythegrandfather2291
      @mannythegrandfather2291 2 месяца назад +33

      @@ralph4370 Ohhh, what about Luffy unlocking Advanced Conqueror's Haki, or Zoro unlocking Conqueror's, or Shanks being at Elbalf, or Momo using age manipulation to become an adult or even more recently with the reveal of the true world being lost underneath the sea? I'm guessing those don't count as well lmao

    • @Abafrasco
      @Abafrasco 2 месяца назад +18

      @@jimbeam-ru1my, big mom coming to Wano

    • @kennethcampbell1934
      @kennethcampbell1934 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@mannythegrandfather2291 Big Mom going to Wano was the biggest one

  • @NickolasNick-wo3tl
    @NickolasNick-wo3tl 2 месяца назад +26

    Rayleigh also thought that the conflict had no direct right and wrong parts, he said something like "follow your own path to find out, maybe in the end you get to a different conclusion", meaning that it is open to interpretation.

  • @zero1188
    @zero1188 2 месяца назад +148

    Imu: the raid will fail
    20 kingdoms: we believe you

    • @EA-dweller
      @EA-dweller 2 месяца назад +4

      In my opinion there was never a void century and some of sophisticated futuristic Empire. The current One Piece story is in fact the void century. Luffy is not a “new Joyboy or nika” Joyboy and Nika have always been different names different nations gave Luffy. Joyboy in Wano, Nika in Elbaf, Warrior god in others,.. Joyboy was pirate? So just like Luffy. Joyboy made a promise to the Mermaid Princess? Well,Luffy did make a promise to Sharahoshi. There was an evil Ling that once ruled Dressrosa 900 years ago and enslaved the small people the “Tonta kingdom”, the old wise Tonta oldest guy said and apparently they were liberated by warrior and the new king apologized to them. The evil King is Doflamingo, the other king who apologized to them is Riku. All hear things were happening right in front of our eyes. The only cities that live under water are caused by the action on Imu. But Vegapunk wouldn’t know that. When Roger found the one piece he laughed and said he wished he had lived in the same era as Joyboy. He never mentioned if it was in the future or the past. And who else could make them laugh with a very silly and goofy dream more than Luffy who’s been doing the same to us for decades?
      My theory is that Momonusuke will learn to scripture the poneglyphs from his grandfather. Robin can read and also write the message. Which would explain why his kingdom Ohara was the last to read the poneglyphs. Vivi might acquire the devil fruit to travel in the past, which she would use to send a coded message 900 years ago to prepare for what’s happening right now. Also the 20 kingdoms were probably aware of this and that’s why they decided no one should access that throne in order to avoid this coming war but Imu managed to do it and took over the throne. The devil fruits might actually simply be creation of Vegapunk and he just never realized it. So is mother flame which is technically nuclear power. Just like Albert Einstein he developed nuclear power thinking he could fix the issue of energy which seems to be the main reason for war around the world but instead the United State and their Allies NATO (which is very similar to the world government in one piece) decided to use that power to weapons and literally destroyed everyone who refused to yield. The murdered and displaced populations around the world. They pillaged African, still have them under neocolonial rules, they literally depend on Africa for natural resources while Africans suffer and starve. The celestial dragons are simply the “Juuuz” and Marijoie is Israel. They murdered and displaced millions to occupy their land that they now call “Holy Land” but recently the whole got to witness that that’s where the demons of this world reside just like where the demons in one piece also reside in Marijoie. But although many of those privileged settlers (the celestial dragons) are extremely stupid, sadistic, racist and just like the settlers in Palestine. You also have very evil powerful geniuses. Like the Figarland family in One Piece. In our current world those are people like Netanyahu, The Rockefeller Family, Rothschild Family, Nuland, Henry Kissinger, Larry Fink of Blackrock that owns almost every American and Western European corporation, the Antony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, Lindsay Graham and other Christian Siononists would idolize Israel. Saying they wil sink the world is into darkness is exact what’s happening. With Zelensky and Netanyahu who are both from that group have started wars in Europe and the middle that could escalate into a WW3. The last War in Onepiece seemed to be inspired by the American civil war. There is a reason Oda used A guy who looks like Abraham Lincoln to host the last world government reverie.

    • @Robss_
      @Robss_ 2 месяца назад +8

      @@EA-dwellerbro most of the examples you made to claim that the current time is actually the void century are literally parallels. Just the fact that Zunesha said that he hasn’t hear the drums in 800 years proves that there actually was a JoyBoy living during that time, it can’t be just current Luffy or else it would’ve been Zunesha’s first time hearing them. Or even the ancient robot apologizing to JoyBoy, but Luffy just met him, so he gotta refer to another JoyBoy. Or literally the fact that Vegapunk’s research led to that period of time 800 years ago is debunking your theory from the start.

    • @dothangbui4918
      @dothangbui4918 2 месяца назад +2

      @@Robss_ but his headcanon !

  • @tysongoudie6158
    @tysongoudie6158 2 месяца назад +95

    It is also interesting how opposite paths were taken to rule by Crocodile and Im. One sought to rule by depriving the land of water and one ruled by overflowing the world with water.

  • @bananaman7637
    @bananaman7637 2 месяца назад +206

    At this point Morj should consider putting spoiler warnings on some of these videos

    • @WiiSage
      @WiiSage 2 месяца назад +13

      anime only watchers can kick rocks, these discussions has always been about where the manga is currently, not the anime.

    • @throwaway_69
      @throwaway_69 2 месяца назад +29

      @@WiiSage wooosh

    • @MagimonOfficial
      @MagimonOfficial 2 месяца назад

      ​@@acrane3496 just googled poes law, til...

    • @koolkid533
      @koolkid533 2 месяца назад

      @@jimbeam-ru1myit was a joke

    • @mangobuster2460
      @mangobuster2460 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@jimbeam-ru1my woah look out we got a smart guy over here 😮 smart enough to not even realize it was prob mostly a non serious statement 🙄

  • @pooryorick2967
    @pooryorick2967 2 месяца назад +31

    The million-dollar question as the void century clears up more and more is what it is the connection between God Valley, Xebec, and Blackbeard. The story is becoming more and more understandable, but I feel like Blackbeard is the one component that blows up any attempt to guess where this story is going.

  • @shanelebeau5891
    @shanelebeau5891 2 месяца назад +61

    Speaking of Imu having Lilly killed… Oda is gonna have you killed… lol

  • @elaichimohamed6617
    @elaichimohamed6617 2 месяца назад +153

    Maybe he tricked 18 kings, but the doflammingo king was already evil as he enslaved the tontattas

    • @devingrayman8497
      @devingrayman8497 2 месяца назад +7

      My thoughts exactly, completely ignoring the narrative.

    • @PineappleBaconPizza
      @PineappleBaconPizza 2 месяца назад +19

      Yeah, and Vivi's ancestor probably realized it after everything went down and helped spread the poneglyphs.

    • @Nubin2000
      @Nubin2000 2 месяца назад +19

      Don Quixote King. Doflamingo is a first name like Rosinante.

    • @Nubin2000
      @Nubin2000 2 месяца назад +2

      The 20 Kings seem to have demonic powers and are the precursors to the Holy God Knight they probably are evil or became evil due to Oni Devil Fruits.

    • @elaichimohamed6617
      @elaichimohamed6617 2 месяца назад +5

      @@Nubin2000 🤣🤣🤣 memory can be so malleable, I have engraved in my memory a whole lineage of doflamingos

  • @Anshelm77
    @Anshelm77 2 месяца назад +35

    14:08 Is that really a fact though? Imu didn't seem to be 100% certain of Lili's betrayal, until Cobra revealed her to be a D 800 years later.

    • @17tgtgy
      @17tgtgy Месяц назад +2

      Maybe he wasn't certain about it but couldn't take the risk of her knowing as well.

  • @Alphadanielmon
    @Alphadanielmon 2 месяца назад +17

    How Morj tricked us into waiting for the Wano Analysis

  • @iconiclittlecharacter9726
    @iconiclittlecharacter9726 2 месяца назад +79

    Bro ate the Cook Cook fruit ordered from Factor with code Morj

  • @mcrrodan
    @mcrrodan 2 месяца назад +65

    The Don Quixote family were already enslaving the Tontatas long before the Lost Century. I can't imagine them being ''good guys''

    • @purplephantom2441
      @purplephantom2441 2 месяца назад +1

      I wanted to write the same

    • @kylemullen2371
      @kylemullen2371 2 месяца назад +4

      I think he thinks the Riku family was 1st then Don Quixote! Instead of DQ-Riku-Doflamingo-Riku. He see’s a reoccurring pattern & is using that formula to guess the IMU formula. I personally don’t think it’s that cut & dry this time & Oda’s got a nice surprise for us

    • @mcrrodan
      @mcrrodan 2 месяца назад +7

      @@kylemullen2371 The Don Quixote were part of the Alianze of Nations that fought the Ancient Kingdom, so i don't see the Alianze as good guys.
      That is what i meant
      PD: Sorry, no native english speaker

    • @kennethcampbell1934
      @kennethcampbell1934 2 месяца назад +3

      That is a good point. I don't think it'd be crazy if some good ones allied with the Don Quixote family though. Luffy allies himself with Midd and Wano treats Midd like a hero.
      We dont see Luffy as wrong although, Luffy is written very naively.

    • @JinxeBlaq
      @JinxeBlaq Месяц назад +3

      Just because one of the kingdoms was morally questionable doesn’t mean they all were. It’s more likely they simply thought the Ancient Kindom was a big enough threat for them to work together.

  • @isaacgavey7762
    @isaacgavey7762 2 месяца назад +15

    Funny things is that Imu and crocodile are both theorized to be luffy's mom😅

  • @stewgamin3294
    @stewgamin3294 2 месяца назад +47

    Adidas sponsorship with 200k subs good job morj thats unprecedented

    • @GourSmith
      @GourSmith 2 месяца назад +2

      Really just shows how down bad adidas is …

    • @vanlassthegreat9734
      @vanlassthegreat9734 2 месяца назад +4

      @@GourSmithor how far Mr moji has come.. don’t downplay his hard work.

    • @GourSmith
      @GourSmith 2 месяца назад +4

      @@vanlassthegreat9734 I’m not downplaying anything. I’m literally stating a fact … They’re literally have an “everything must go” sale 🤨 We’re talking about a guy with 200k subs. That’s a great achievement-but adidas sponsoring a video who won’t even touch 200k views is proof of how down bad they are. They didn’t go for a guy like pewdiepie or Grand Line review or Joe Rogan … They went for the guy that said the raid would fail 😂 They down horrendously

    • @Oejak
      @Oejak 2 месяца назад

      @@GourSmithyou are bitter like your father.
      It’s not Morj’s fault if your Pa cannot see anything good in you.
      So now you are a hater just because of big brand can appreciate good content.

  • @PER578
    @PER578 2 месяца назад +89

    I just realized viola wasnt at the reverie because she would have seen imu

    • @stormfox7592
      @stormfox7592 2 месяца назад +15

      She was at the reverie

    • @Nightlingbolt
      @Nightlingbolt 2 месяца назад +10

      @@stormfox7592 Then how did she not see Imu? Like, are Imu and the Five Elders' rooms lined with Seastone or something? Or is their Haki simply invisible even to the Glare-Glare Fruit?

    • @Ashlake__
      @Ashlake__ 2 месяца назад +29

      ​@@Nightlingboltfrom what we've learnt, having very strong haki makes devil fruits not work on you, so it's easy to from what we've seen in egghead arc that gorosei and imu have incredible strong haki thus Viola isn't capable of seeing them.

    • @stormfox7592
      @stormfox7592 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Nightlingbolt I don’t know ask Oda

    • @gamechaser94
      @gamechaser94 Месяц назад +5

      She didn’t use her devil fruit

  • @CC-ed9lf
    @CC-ed9lf 2 месяца назад +32

    A blue haired princess introduced as a villain who helps luffy retake their homeland. We all know who I'm talking about, BUGGY D CLOWN IS A CELESTIAL DRAGON.

    • @lilacangelblue2404
      @lilacangelblue2404 2 месяца назад +1

      One of the silhouettes in the recent chapter does have a buggy-esque nose 👀

    • @GourSmith
      @GourSmith 2 месяца назад +4

      @@lilacangelblue2404Just stop. That “nose” is literally about the size of that person’s head 😂 buggy’s nose is about the size of a strawberry … Not a basketball. Just stop.

  • @kshitijsavla
    @kshitijsavla 2 месяца назад +12

    Joyboy and Imu were both from the Ancient Kingdom. Joyboy was all about sharing and exploring, like he wanted everyone to benefit from the Ancient Kingdom's riches. He had this charm that attracted people who shared his views, kinda like how Luffy makes friends everywhere he goes.
    Now, Imu was a whole different story. He was rich and sneaky, kinda like Blackbeard, always plotting and scheming. He wanted power and only recruited people who were tough and ruthless, promising them all sorts of stuff.
    Both of them left the ancient kingdom to explore the world. Joyboy explored the whole world & even the depths of sea where he found a trible of people called fishman. He was friends with the fishman kingdoms Princess. He promised the fishman princess that after he goes back to ancient kingdom he will come back & take them to the land where they can stay forever.
    When Joyboy and Imu came back to the Ancient Kingdom, they had a major disagreement. Joyboy was all for sharing the wealth and making peace with other kingdoms, while Imu wanted to dominate them all.
    The ancient kingdom people agreed with Joyboy & disagreed with Imu. After that Imu stole these super powerful ancient weapons and started spreading lies about how the Ancient Kingdom was evil and out to destroy everyone. People believed him, after Imu secretly used these weapons & manipulated the 20 kingdoms in thinking ancient kingdom used the weapons to destroy them and soon there was a huge war.
    Joyboy tried to stop it, but he didn't want to hurt anyone from the 20 kingdoms, so he couldn't fight back effectively. In the end, he lost to Imu, and the Ancient Kingdom fell.
    This person named Lilly, who was loved by both Joyboy and Imu, found out the truth about Imu's lies. She tried to expose him, but Imu couldn't risk it, so he got rid of her. - Kshitij Savla.

    • @animeinkpower9854
      @animeinkpower9854 2 месяца назад +5

      *sprinkles a dash of salt* #DinnerIsServed

    • @lilacangelblue2404
      @lilacangelblue2404 2 месяца назад +3

      Another chef who cooks expertly 🤌

    • @theone4821
      @theone4821 Месяц назад +1

      Very Great thought! I was starting to consider the slight possibility that Imu could have been from the Ancient Kingdom instead (had the thought about 10 minutes before reading this, the world seems to work in mysterious ways 😁)

    • @kshitijsavla
      @kshitijsavla Месяц назад

      @@theone4821 i had this theory for a long time. & The previous chapter just confirmed the theory for me to post.

  • @ayushnayak6138
    @ayushnayak6138 2 месяца назад +12

    He definitely planned for celestial dragons into becoming inbread disasters.

  • @germanbrandeburgo5925
    @germanbrandeburgo5925 2 месяца назад +5

    To your point at 4:45:
    In chapter 1114, when Vegapunk is talking about the void century, we see a panel of Celestial Dragons reacting.
    Among them is Saint Shalria (Charloss’ sister), whose reaction seems to indicate that the younger people in Marigeoise don’t even know where their status comes from or why. That scene may be Oda planting the seeds for at least a portion of the Celestial Dragons to turn face.
    Edit: I posted this comment before watching the rest of the video. I see you address it 😅

  • @goofywill90
    @goofywill90 2 месяца назад +11

    The promise that joyboy failed is connected Calgara & Nolan probably leading to Lili to help the 20 kingdoms. Heck laughtale, the story of Noland "laughing liar" which Sanji knows about. Which has what is known & what actually happened. Comedy & Tragedy the core of One Piece.

  • @LarsCaesar
    @LarsCaesar 2 месяца назад +3

    20 kings using the ancient weapons against eachother while knowing it'll sink the world. Not saying anything until it's too late. Enemies that decided to ally to hide what they did. Like Flevance, an old government classic.

  • @goodnight1119
    @goodnight1119 2 месяца назад +3

    The Arabasta parallel is striking, great video morj!

  • @jtthomas7349
    @jtthomas7349 2 месяца назад +11

    I'm curious how Oda does plan on making the conflict morally complex.. cus right now it looks like the literal "drums of liberation" vs a bunch of monarchs that keep slaves and commit crimes like genocide. 🤔

    • @sunnysangha2097
      @sunnysangha2097 2 месяца назад +1

      bruh oda is just gonna fumble here and make imu giga tier evil. its not a deep moral issue. oda cannot get is writing to be that complex -.-

    • @karoltv4390
      @karoltv4390 2 месяца назад +3

      Keeping slaves/servants has only been morally wrong for the past 100 or so years every good monarch in our history had them

    • @hattyhattington3381
      @hattyhattington3381 Месяц назад

      @@karoltv4390 having slaves is always an evil, and given that this is a modern piece of art, it would be bad to depict the slave owners as good people.

    • @crazybrothers5544
      @crazybrothers5544 Месяц назад

      ​@@sunnysangha2097 I mean I'm pretty sure he's done it a numerous amount of times

  • @matthew4780
    @matthew4780 Месяц назад +2

    My headcanon is that Imu had this enormous crush on Lily and he spilled the beans to her when he was about to win so she could be his queen, but she refused and was horrified by the truth of her (and all 20 kings) mistake, that's why she acted like that in the end.

  • @dimitra3867
    @dimitra3867 2 месяца назад +28

    Oda has been trying to hammer into our heads that what individuals want and what entire factions want should not be confused with eachother.
    God Valley, were pirates or marines in the wrong? Roger and Garp seemed to just be on the same page at that specific key moment and battle. It does not mean marines and pirates are allied.
    It could possibly even be theorized that Joyboy and the 20 kings were on the same side, and seeked for the ancient kingdom to share its power and technology. But AFTER all was said and done Imu turned the tables and became the new king of the world and simply rewrote history.

  • @kaychan7242
    @kaychan7242 2 месяца назад +6

    Wouldnt the biggest resource they were fighting for be Land.
    My current theory is - Imu got access to the mother flame and fired it off causing the sea levels to rise and this caused the other kingdoms to revolt against the ancient kingdom as the land their nations were on was getting consumed by the new ocean. LILY found out the truth that the World Government was actually the ones who were making the world flood causing the war to happen.

    • @theone4821
      @theone4821 Месяц назад

      This is an excellent theory!

    • @truffle6082
      @truffle6082 Месяц назад

      Man not a bad at all this Theory is very good. Sounds like exactly what occurred!!

    • @ak3nodxd674
      @ak3nodxd674 Месяц назад

      And the land was all in one piece before imu tore it apart 😂

  • @justadonut1
    @justadonut1 2 месяца назад +11

    ANOTHER MASTERPIECE FROM MORJ!

  • @LordFlack0
    @LordFlack0 2 месяца назад +3

    This makes perfect sense given that Lily seems to have found out they were wrong after Joy Boys defeat.

  • @christophervalentine4474
    @christophervalentine4474 2 месяца назад +4

    1. First we get the set up in Alabasta. An evil force, represented by crocodile and his people, insidiously undermining the authority of a noble regime, so they can seize power in the bloody aftermath.
    2.Present the current world structure as just and noble, or at least the best possible option. But gradually show how corrupt and broken it is through the protagonist’s journey of befriending people the system abused and ruined. However, never have average citizens protest against it because they’ve been so thoroughly brainwashed that they would accept that killing children was for the greater good if the government officials said so.
    3. Some time later we get Doflamingo and his crew that have seemingly succeeded where crocodile failed. They overthrew the previous noble regime of Dressrosa and had near complete control of the land by the time Luffy and the others arrived. And in its place they formed a supposedly utopian kingdom that was in reality a dystopian nightmare like the larger world. Additionally, factoring in the numerous intentional parallels and similarities between the two arcs and the fact that doffy was a celestial dragon like Imu a pattern starts to emerge.
    4. Finally, we reveal that the previous arcs were practice sections for the main event. Luffy’s journey of liberating smaller countries from such insidious forces was preparing him and foreshadowing to us in the audience that he would have to conquer the biggest insidious force that did what doffy did to Dressrosa but on the biggest scale.
    I say the logic checks out!

  • @dpad_
    @dpad_ 2 месяца назад +4

    I always thought Imus story was the mirror of Blackbeards. A seemingly unimportant noble with godly ambitions. Perhaps even with modest beginnings, much like Teech. Royal Nerona line mightve just started and will end with Imu

  • @rathinsinha5646
    @rathinsinha5646 2 месяца назад +7

    I think he would have killed Lili anyway. I also think that the rulers who formed the world government together with Imu were not the ones who fought against the ancient kingdom. Imu probably must have chosen 18 people (one from each kingdom) who were willing to help his plan prevail. He replaced the original 18 monarchs( killed them) with his 18 minions and they helped him form the world government.

  • @DJMilez
    @DJMilez Месяц назад

    Loved this video! Excellent job Morj!

  • @bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838
    @bluestarsaberstarwarsfan3838 2 месяца назад +9

    Why does Moji always say 150 nations when the pannel clearly says 170?

    • @carkawalakhatulistiwa
      @carkawalakhatulistiwa 2 месяца назад

      How about 192 nation in real world.

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle 2 месяца назад

      @@carkawalakhatulistiwa uhhh... idk, how about them?

  • @scrump_4949
    @scrump_4949 2 месяца назад +1

    Absolutely stunning dish by chef Morj today 👌🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @primesonic4459
    @primesonic4459 2 месяца назад +3

    I wonder how long One Piece manga will last especially with how many chapters this flashback alone will take ?
    The flashback can include Joyboys story similar to Oden + Imu manipulation of the 20 kingdoms like Alabasta civil War + the actual fights between Joyboy and the 20 kings + the epilogue with Lilys discovery of manipulation, the making and the spreading of poneglyphs and her death + the hiding of joyboys crew and/or allies

  • @ejelder
    @ejelder 2 месяца назад +4

    Nice video! There’s a line from someone at the start of Sabaody (i think hachi but can’t remember for sure) that each generation of Celestial Dragons has been worse than the generation before. This comes right when the Celestial Dragons are first introduced.
    Not to say that characters today would have had insight into Celestial Dragons 500 years ago or 800 years ago, but from the moment they are introduced Oda’s been planting seeds that these Celestial Dragons are worse than their ancestors
    Also, another though. Just like Crocodile did Alabasta because he wanted the ancient weapons, what if Imu did the same? Imu wants to flood the world, and if the ancient weapons can do that then Imu should have wanted them for that purpose (and maybe even used the ancient weapons to frame them, or even tricked Zunish into using them to frame him). There’s connective tissue to fill in here, but it seems to make a lot of sense

  • @ljwilliams6161
    @ljwilliams6161 Месяц назад

    Man your takes are so good that I felt compelled to subscribe! Good job!

  • @sonnyechols5140
    @sonnyechols5140 2 месяца назад +5

    I have only been watching one piece for a year now but I figured this was common knowledge it’s pretty obvious because it basically happens every time they get to a new island…spoiler alert there is gonna be a massive battle like marine ford at the end and all the people the strawhats have helped along the way will show up and fight for luffy like everyone showed up for whitebeard but this time EVERYONE will show up

  • @Vellan.
    @Vellan. 2 месяца назад +2

    Great video morj!

  • @aprepogo
    @aprepogo 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the analysis ❤

  • @IndiaTides
    @IndiaTides 2 месяца назад +4

    I think Joyboy and Imu used the ancient weapons in their war. It was not just Imu's use caused the calamity.
    Joyboy at least had pluton as it is hidden under Wano which is obviously with Joyboy faction.
    Both sided justified their crimes. The justice won. Doflamingo view.

  • @animeinkpower9854
    @animeinkpower9854 2 месяца назад +1

    This is pretty spot on 👌🏾

  • @thebladerunner5226
    @thebladerunner5226 2 месяца назад +9

    Here's a theory ive had for a bit could Imu have stolen Nefertari D Lilies body with Law devil fruit and taken it as punishment for her actions with the ponaglyghs and thats why she went missing ,never returned home and her sword is missing in front of the "empty throne". Also doesn't Imu's shape bear a striking resemblance to Nefertari D Lili's

    • @pianoman3255
      @pianoman3255 2 месяца назад +3

      This is a decent theory.

  • @trashwizard7055
    @trashwizard7055 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the shoes morjy

  • @steveturner9034
    @steveturner9034 Месяц назад

    Really solid theory once again 👏👏

  • @Haseeb_1010
    @Haseeb_1010 2 месяца назад

    Morj is really consistent in dropping these videos every week .

  • @Gamesterr-
    @Gamesterr- 2 месяца назад

    Great video my boy

  • @GeorgeMesaros
    @GeorgeMesaros 2 месяца назад

    See the title, agree immediately, watch video, mind blown. Loved it!

  • @animealpha4795
    @animealpha4795 2 месяца назад +4

    Did he just get sponsored by fracking adidas?????

  • @kfique
    @kfique 2 месяца назад

    Nice analysis, sounds legit!

  • @KittSpiken
    @KittSpiken Месяц назад

    I need shoes.
    Picked a really inconvenient video to watch tomorrow.

  • @TheManyFacedGawd
    @TheManyFacedGawd 2 месяца назад +13

    Head cannon,but could crocodile mirror Imu in the sense that Imu was a man but became a woman (potentially taking Lily’s body orochimaru) the CrocoMom theory, but reverse

    • @LoudWaffle
      @LoudWaffle 2 месяца назад +1

      I'm a simple One Piece fan. I see CrocoMom theorizing, and I upvote.

  • @animeeditz4568
    @animeeditz4568 2 месяца назад +1

    bro just fucking cooked 😮‍💨🔥🔥

  • @unnamedshadow1866
    @unnamedshadow1866 Месяц назад +1

    I think there's more to it.
    I highly believe Imu is the example of what happens when you fail to Awaken a Mythical Zoan.
    The entity within the Fruit takes over.
    And Imu had a Devil Fruit that had the power of the Devil itself.
    Imu failed to awaken his fruit, and the Devil took over.
    Because if what Imu wanted was just Power, then there is no need to Destroy the World by Flooding.
    It is the Devil that took over Imu, manipulated the other 18 Kings.

  • @CallmeTheDon
    @CallmeTheDon 2 месяца назад +1

    I believe imu and Joyboy where probably good friends or even brothers but at some point imu saw the power that could be had if him and joyboy joined forces and took over all the kingdoms but joyboy wanted no parts of it and wanted everyone to be free and liberated so imu thought of a plan to get everyone to turn against joyboy so that he (IMU) could rule over everything behind the scenes and slowly kill the other 20 kings one by one

  • @thepersonofstuff
    @thepersonofstuff 2 месяца назад

    Yo morj getting an adidas deal is crazy

  • @pontiusthepilot
    @pontiusthepilot 2 месяца назад

    I really love this idea. It feels correct

  • @zero1188
    @zero1188 2 месяца назад +5

    I think joy boy got too powerful. Imu gathered all the kings and went against him. Also BIackbeard being who he is might be a representation of a D that betrayed joyboy because he is different

  • @arunabhalahiri4931
    @arunabhalahiri4931 2 месяца назад +2

    This feels too simple... I believe this is not that simple as Vegapunk himself is in the dark.

  • @xemnadicaxolando2217
    @xemnadicaxolando2217 Месяц назад

    Every arc is just going further and further along the "bad guys take over from the good guys" story

  • @perezjesus8jp
    @perezjesus8jp 2 месяца назад +1

    My theory for lily is that imu originally used the personality switching ability of the op-op fruit before using the immortality operation. Cause lily and imu’s silhouette look familiar, as well as to vivi herself

  • @toadounetlovesyou
    @toadounetlovesyou 2 месяца назад +2

    I feel like the truth might be a bit more complicated than that. I believe that the 20 Kingdoms fought together for a greater good, based on their own ideologies. It might be related to a resource like the mother flame, or to the rise of technology, just like the debate on nuclear weapons in the real world. I feel like Imu tricked the other kings after the war was won, and it might have been the plan all along, but I don't think he tricked about the reason to fight this war, it makes the other kings feel a bit dumb.
    What I'm concerned about is that Joyboy's side most likely had all three ancient weapons, but it seems that the 20 Kingdoms are guilty for the water rising, as the Gorosei say they want to finish the job. Uranus in particular had to have been built by the Ancient Kingdom. Was it stolen? I'm very interested in what happened there.

  • @sanomanjiro5106
    @sanomanjiro5106 2 месяца назад

    I'll always be there for a morj theory

  • @jamesvaldez5071
    @jamesvaldez5071 Месяц назад

    I can imagine being rallied together by saying the ancient kingdom didn't want to share their creations that (as they were told) will solve all the problems they are going through. Perhaps they had something (although nothing that will fix all problems) they didn't wish to share because it's too dangerous.

  • @CaioGuerra19
    @CaioGuerra19 2 месяца назад

    morj is cooking another one

  • @paytonturner1421
    @paytonturner1421 2 месяца назад

    I just like how things in One Piece might have been foreshadowed in other chapters. It shows how the writer leaves clues for the reader to put together.

  • @re_striker3431
    @re_striker3431 2 месяца назад +3

    Gonna stop watching morj videos so I can enjoy the ending of one piece😭

  • @Manny301
    @Manny301 2 месяца назад

    I love falling asleep listening to one piece theories

  • @warwulf1889
    @warwulf1889 Месяц назад

    11:09 Don't forget, framing others almost netted them the Blueprints to Pluton.

  • @iceman4169
    @iceman4169 Месяц назад

    One piece hype for life great 👍🏻 video nice 👍🏻 hype!!!!!!!!!

  • @FireFistAce3d2y
    @FireFistAce3d2y 2 месяца назад +1

    Your theories are so good i feel like im spoiling one piece

  • @Shingo_Aoi
    @Shingo_Aoi 2 месяца назад +1

    This doesn't explain why Lili has the D. Imho it's more probable that she was already at Joyboy's side while being officially at the other side - like today Vivi goes to the Reverie while being Luffy's allie and actual nakama.

  • @K4inan
    @K4inan Месяц назад

    I'm noticing huge parallels with this and with Montblanc Noland and Calgara... It would not surprise me at all if Montblanc is actually the name of a family of celestial dragons. Calgara when he runs for Noland to ask for forgiveness, he says ''I've committed such a sin'', that reminds me of Joyboy apologizing to the fishmen.

  • @jakeseligson7852
    @jakeseligson7852 2 месяца назад +4

    It’s like mr morj knows when I’m in my backyard with my bong

  • @CaptainGoldenBoy
    @CaptainGoldenBoy 2 месяца назад

    Morj please get another Adidas sponsorship. I wanted these shoes but I guess I’m a few hours late :(

  • @timonegal2274
    @timonegal2274 2 месяца назад

    I love how youtuber did not understand rhat 90 % of their viewers/possible buyers for the stuff they want to sell are watching on their phone and therefore not see the links they made

  • @bryancarter7654
    @bryancarter7654 2 месяца назад

    Morj.. I absolutely hate how you punch in your add breaks 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Passdcash
    @Passdcash 2 месяца назад +1

    Unrelated to the topic of the video but…. If giants live to 300 years old, ain’t it possible Jarul’s (and other giants) grandparents lived through the void century and told their stories directly to currently living characters?

  • @ernestoddelgado3350
    @ernestoddelgado3350 2 месяца назад

    Legends says that if you say “the raid will fail” three times in front of morj’s channel icon, the raid on Wano will fail

  • @hawkins8945
    @hawkins8945 2 месяца назад

    My guy got an adidas sponsorship?!? Let’s fucking go!!

  • @jeremyringkamp2490
    @jeremyringkamp2490 Месяц назад

    Bank sake tells the story of Joy boy and the betrayal that imu did.
    So it starts out with Joy boy traveling the world and drinking sake with the other kingdoms.
    Then it continues to go on and discuss how Joy boy was. Then later betrayed and the oceans Rose every single time, one of the ancient weapons was used.

  • @kradiie
    @kradiie 2 месяца назад

    I think Lily was a part of Joyboy's crew, that's why she'd been to all the places where she sent the poneglyphs using her DF. Then she went back to her kingdom, just like Vivi did and became the Queen. After that Imu had her turn against Joyboy and fight him in the war. Then she regretted it and carried out his will before Imu disposed of her.

  • @mokaljordan
    @mokaljordan 2 месяца назад

    You cooked, i thought u was gonna delve a bit into the role the ancient weapons played into the trickery or bring up more of Uranus but u probaly did in your extended thoughts
    I wonder if Vivi is a parallel to the D clan in alabasta while Robin was a parallel to Lili in the alabasta arc and Luffy changed history from repeating itself, Imu not only deceived the 19 other kings but the ancient kingdom as well to aquire Uranus

  • @blackouthorus1519
    @blackouthorus1519 2 месяца назад

    Alabasta playing iut like the og war made me have restart my brain for a second there

  • @soulburnerX
    @soulburnerX Месяц назад +1

    After a recent reread I believe the D. Stands for Dawn

  • @_rando_d
    @_rando_d 2 месяца назад +1

    Morj, what banger is playing 8:00

  • @qb4428
    @qb4428 2 месяца назад +14

    Frankly, I think Oda is gonna have a hard time making a plot to flood the planet interesting as it seems to just be something that there is straight up no justification for other than "mwahaha, I am evil!"

    • @IndiaTides
      @IndiaTides 2 месяца назад +11

      It happened in span of 100 years.
      200m rise means at least it is used 200 times in the war. Why do you think only one party used such power?

    • @Problemsolver434
      @Problemsolver434 2 месяца назад +13

      Crocodile had a plot to nuke a country. Oda still made it interesting.
      And its not like Imu killed everyone in the void century. Many people were left alive

    • @feroas3150
      @feroas3150 2 месяца назад

      the world is flooding as consequence of the war in the void century, Believeing imu want to flood the worrld cuz he is evil is only a theory.

    • @crazybrothers5544
      @crazybrothers5544 Месяц назад

      I don't feel like the wg are simply just "evil" all there actions are for a reason. They're probably like a necessary evil where they do shitty things but ultimately for the benefit of the onepiece world in its entirety ignoring the consequences.

  • @Truck-kun11
    @Truck-kun11 2 месяца назад +5

    Nah, I'm sure that a good amount of the 20 Kingdoms were just evil, take for example the Don Quixotes family who were already enslaving the Tontatas long before the Lost Century.
    Oda likes to sprinkle gray morality here and there, but in the end he always ends up going with the good old "Good VS Evil", especially when the Celestial Dragons are involved.

    • @ReiseLukas
      @ReiseLukas 2 месяца назад +5

      Morj didn't say all of the kingdoms were good, just that some might've been.

  • @dfile7598
    @dfile7598 2 месяца назад

    Great video. If it was true that the Celestial Dragons' ancestors were actually deceived in the 1st place, then perhaps this could be a possibility for some of the World Nobles of today realize the error of their ways, and help Luffy & Dragon's forces defeat Imu for good!

  • @ET4KK
    @ET4KK Месяц назад +1

    I feel like the fact that devil fruit users cannot swim and the fact that the world is sinking leaves a pretty obvious power up that is needed for luffy to have , and that is to be able to float or swim! also if you look at the mother flame its just floating there in the water and its been a few theories that Buffy will "eat" the mother flame so shat if when he eats it he gets the ability to go into water. (which would allow him to uncover the secrets hidden to the flood) what y'all think?

  • @kinggilgamesh013
    @kinggilgamesh013 Месяц назад

    Biggest issue i have is Imu having an obsession with nefertari to this day. It means something to the story that I don't think any theorist has quite grasped in the right way.

  • @Ectoplasticy
    @Ectoplasticy Месяц назад

    Interestingly, Imu would have also needed the Gorosei (if they are from Void Century times as well) to back him up as well. Assuming each Gorosei is from a different 20-kingdom family, the conspiracy of the world of One Piece might have been between 6 of the original kingdoms while the rest were innocent.

  • @deandrep4273
    @deandrep4273 Месяц назад

    boy got an adidas sponsor?!!? doing big shit !!!

  • @soulburnerX
    @soulburnerX Месяц назад

    Lili discovered the giant Straw Hat Imu kept

  • @woodycannon
    @woodycannon Месяц назад

    My head cannon says Imu swapped bodies with Lilly via the ope ope no mi. Had the original Imu killed while lilly was still in that body.

  • @DonutSwordsman
    @DonutSwordsman Месяц назад +1

    Ez sub, you're the elden ring lore master of one piece