I bought one of these this spring, I find a lot of the same things that you have. I'm glad it's my only bike. I bought this will be a comuter bike for me. I needed a sport bike with bags so it fits my needs. Great vid
Pretty much every issue you've said is the whole reason I bought the ninja 1000sx instead. It's good to see a video where someone's being honest about their opinion.
@@stuyrides5144 you know when they’ve been making a bike for at least 10 years they have it sorted out. The Ninja 1000 is a strong contender for my next bike. If it had an Amu and cruise control in 2015 I’d probably be riding it now.
Your point is lost on 90% of people because they wont admit they brought the wrong bike and are stuck with it. Reading bike tests is a waste of time. I made a big mistake in 2015 and learned from that experience. When buying a new bike at the end of 2022 i made dam sure NO fork ups were made.
Ultimately, it's all personal preference. If anyone is to criticise you for this, then they really need to grow up. We are all different. The bike community is odd, some of the nicest people you'll meet, but when it comes to the YT comments, some are also the most bitter and childish i have ever come across. We ride what we want. Just appreciate bikes for what they give us, instead of acting like 3 year olds. Many won't experience any negatives on a 1h test ride. I recently got a new XSR900. Did a quick 20-minute test ride and i bought it. My first 5 hour ride out today killed my arse. These things we pick up later into ownership, or first long ride for me 😂. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the new bike reveal.👍
I too recently bought a new (blue) XSR900. Rode it for the first time on Easter Sunday and my backside, still hasn’t recovered. Blimey that seat’s hard 😧
@@inked-96 I agree. I'd have no less respect for all those that love this bike, just expressing personal frustration..... the N1K Ninja community were some of the best nicest people I've ever met. I'm just beside myself over this one 😆
Just complete an Iron butt (1000 mile in 24 hr) with this stock bike and fits me fine and through it was super comfy for me, being 5'11. It might be worth giving some rider specific height and so on if you found it uncomfortable so people can get a gauge on if this might be good advice for them or not. To be honest the first people I've heard to not get on with comfort or lights and had probablems with paintwork. Not my experience of the bike after 12k mile and 2 and half years. Didn't opt for the panniers however and probably won't now and 100% agree about the heated grip.
Wow! I didn’t realise you had so many issues with the GT. I agree with the insane asking price of the heated grips, more than twice any other manufacturer and I’m guessing this is where Suzuki claws back some money in accessories. I don’t have an issue with the panniers and because I don’t generally ride at night I can’t comment on the headlight throw and spread. However, I’m surprised you never mentioned the woeful front brake (the culprit being the master cylinder) or the inadequate OE tyres (Dunlops). Paint finish isn’t great and I’ve already had several stone chips on my rims within the first year. As for seat comfort, I’m a short arse at 5’9" and find the seating position comfortable for all day rides, but the handlebars are at a strange angle and I had to get used to my wrists bending outwards to hold the grips - even a mate commented on the weird angle when he rode my bike for a while. This will be my third year of ownership and overall I’m still pleased with my GT purchase as I knew it was built to a price. I’m keen to see your next bike because I’ve been eyeing up the Suzuki GX for my next tour. Edit: I forgot to add that I get an annoying buzzing through the handlebars at around 6,000 rpm which is exactly where I’m cruising on motorways across the continent and it leads to white finger syndrome after a few hundred miles. I’ve even added a set of grip puppies to try reduce the vibrations. Does anyone else get the buzzing/vibrations through the bars? Keep up the good work 👍
@Paulie44, I had the same buzzing issue with my 2018 GSX S1000FA at 6000 rpm, I solved it by changing sprockets (1 tooth bigger in front and 1 tooth smaller in back, that way the rear axle location stays the same), and also went with a taller rear tire (200/55 Bridgestone S22), those changes gave me substantially taller legs on the highway which put the buzz-zone at about 95 mph which is a hair above my cruise speed, so problem solved. That solution did, however, make for a rather tall 1st gear but I'm personally okay with that. Oh, I also added some heavier bar end weights, filled the handlebar with BBs and added foam grips. Those mods helped quite a bit.
@@markcayton6712 thanks for the advice, I’ll probably go the sprockets and taller tyre route on the next bike (undecided if it’ll be another Suzuki GSX-S 1000GT or the Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX, or even the GSX-S 1000GX)
Yes all straight fours have this problem. No way around it. I didnt buy a Kawa 1400 because of this very reason. I own a twin but do have a 1997 GSXR1100 and this bike never goes on long distance rides. Smoothest but most complicated are the V4
I have the same bike. Here are my thoughts but keep in mind, I am coming from a GSXR1000K6. The paint is way too thin. The limited leg room makes it a bit uncomfortable for me on longer trips but supposedly there's a guy making highway pegs for them now which should help a bit. My panniers come off pretty easily and they hold a lot. Don’t really care about the heated grips. I paid $16K cash for the bike. What’s another $400 bucks? Plus I live in Florida lol. I'd say it's a super comfortable sport bike and less of traditional sports tourer like a Concours, RS, RT, VFR, etc. Surprisingly I felt the r1250RS that I test rode a month ago during Bike Week less comfortable with more of a forward lean angle. Great low end torque out of that boxer engine though! My biggest gripe with the Suzuki, besides the stock brakes being atrocious, is them giving us the GT’s K5 derived engine in a detuned state while still being quite revvy on the highway. I find myself wishing it was a bit stronger in the mid range and less rev happy on the highway. My bike is flashed but I’m still trying to decide if I should put a pipe on it for a bit more juice or keep it “gentleman like” the way it is in stock form. Who knew I’d miss the raw nuts of my old bike? Still I find it to be a very very good bike and I know when I look at my mostly sportbike friends while out on those longer rides, I’m still way more comfortable than they are. The GT is the jack of all trades though and really the master of none. If you’re looking for the bike that blows your socks off, this isn’t it. If you’re looking for one of the best bang for buck all rounders in the market place that is still proper fast and with decent comfort than you’re in the right place. Just don’t buy one expecting to do multi day tours in total comfort as if you’re on one of Beemer’s flagship bikes. Not going to happen…but then again, those won’t handle nearly as well either. I also think Suzuki should have given this bike a 1200 motor, a Brembo radial master cylinder and maybe just charged us a bit more for it all. That would add superbike level brakes, a bunch of torque while also bringing the highway revs down a bit and still keeping the emissions police happy. That said, I'll also be adding something else to the stable too but I won't be letting the GT go anytime soon. It's just way too practical, even if it ain't the most exciting or comfortable thing out there.
Great write up. I had a 2015 GSXR 1000 two bikes before the GT. Do you also get buzzing/vibrations through the handlebars at motorway cruising speeds at approximately 6.000 rpm? I’ve fitted grip puppies to try alleviate the buzzing but to no avail. I was thinking of reducing one tooth on the rear sprocket to drop the revs when I’m touring.
@Paulie44 Thanks man and yes, my hands definitely get a bit tingley at those RPM's. I'll usually use the cruise control and move my hands and fingers around a bit to prevent them from going numb. I'm thinking about adding bar end weights to help alleviate the problem.
@@MalShakurI’ve already tried bar end weights from R&G (stainless bar end weights) and when they turned up I weighed them and found them loads lighter than the standard Suzuki bar end weights, so I never bothered fitting them. Can’t recall the exact weight difference but it was quite a big difference. I think the best solution may be to alter the gearing slightly to drop the revs for 70mph cruising. I had a good look at the GX in the showroom and noticed it has a rubber gasket between the handlebars mount and the top triple clamp - Suzuki must’ve listened to feedback from owners to remove the vibrations.
@@desidudevfor me it was down to looks and the feel of the bike when I sat on the two side by side at Manchester bike show. I felt more comfortable on the Suzuki. As mentioned at the start, I also preferred the looks of the Suzuki when they were side by side.
GT is "day long comfortable" for those coming off from nakeds or clip-on bikes. It seems like you will be very happy with an upright 2 cylinder touring machine. I believe you would love the Moto Guzzi V85 (rode it, I loved it, not good for city riding) or something similar. I can have almost as much fun on a street triple 765 as with my GT but I can ride it all day too, with some compromises of course, which I knew before I bought it. The "exploding" part of the engine has also my dopamine charts exploding :P. Last one, for me setting up the suspension a difference of 60% more grip.
I have a 2024 GSXs 1000 Gt and I absolutely love it. The lights are extremely bright and give more the ample coverage. Maybe your headlights weren’t adjusted correctly? I did get a Sargent seat made for the bike it’s extremely comfortable. I’ve been on 5-6 hours ride and it was very uncomfortable for me. To eaches own
Truth be known I have a 1000 SX. Thanks for honest review of your bike and personal experience from your perspective. I think that’s all we, as viewers, should ask from anyone that’s posting. I apologize in advance for all the goobers that are going to tell you that your perceptions are inappropriate because their’s don’t agree…! Lastly, if I had a dollar for every time the guy that has had “10,000 motorcycles” over the last “two millennia” has an opinion that disagrees with your experience but insists on parading ‘bona fides’ to prove that his ‘opinion’ is more superior than yours… I would be richer than Elon Musk! I DO love my 1000sx! Long, strong, and comfortable.
What a great balanced and sensitively done review . Most modern bikes have great features but they are all costing a shed load of money and too many reviewers dont highlight what you have -fantastic ...well done & thanks
I come from Kawasaki Z900, and I only needed to seat on the GT, spend about a minute on it, get off, and knew it wasn't nearly as comfortable as it should be for a sport tourer. The bars are too far and low, so much so that I said that my Z900 was more comfortable in terms of seating position. Yeah, I was unpleasently surprised. Yeah, I'm probably getting a Versys 1000. I reckon you'd be happy with that one ;)
Bikes as so divisive. I test rode a Suzuki years ago and it felt good, was only allowed a 20min test ride. I bought the bike but like you sold it 12 months later as it was just awful to sit on after 50 mins. I now have a S1000R and I can ride that for 3-4 hours before I started to get uncomfortable. The geometry of every bike works differently for every rider, its just unfortunate that you can't find this out with such short test rides.
This is exactly why I'd never buy a bike based on a mainstream reviewers spew and wait untill I could see reviews from actual owners or at least unbiased independent reviewers. In recent years that wasn't possible due to lack of rubber hitting showroom floors. Bikes had to be pre-ordered and none were available for test rides, this resulted in many regretful purchases.
@@elvisthewart670 I'm sorry you fell into the trap, the Tracer GT was amongst bikes I considered for myself but I didn't like the goggle eyed dash. I was tempted again when the GT Plus got the TFT screen but thankfully I watched some real life reviews and crossed it off my list. I hope you're able to sell it and get something you enjoy.
I had some initial discomfort with the seat on my Kawasaki Z1000SX but it soon stopped being an issue (just got used to it? 🤷♂️) After 4 years I'm still loving it (check out my long term review videos) It's a shame you didn't get on with your bike. Always good to get a real owner's perspective, they're much more qualified than someone's impressions from a press event. Good luck with your next bike.
I’ll have a gander at your long term Kawasaki video because I had the option of the ZX Ninja or the Suzuki GT and I preferred the look of the Suzuki. If Kawasaki were to update their SX it would be a top contender for my next bike.
Dang. I love the GT+. 2,500 miles isn't much...I took mine on a 4,600+ mile cross country road trip the first week i got mine after the first service. It was a blast. I'm now getting the bike tuned after a couple internals.
I have the the gsxs gt for 3 years now. 20,000 km odo. I have to say the headlights are bright enough for me, high beam on the gt is overkill as it was like a beam shooting right in front and lit up the side as well, blinding anyone in front which can cause hazard . The side panniers, i rarely took them off, I dont think it is designed for you to take it on and off all the time. It is a brilliant design, you only need your key to remove the pannier, no tools needed which is very handy when you need to do repairs. I do agree the OEM seat is not really that comfy, I have changed mine to an italian made one with memory foam which makes it so much better. The seat and auxiliary lights you bought was sadly your fault for not making sure if it fits the bike and if the seat is right for you. The heated grips are expensive i do agree on that, but it works and get hot really quick rain or shine and the price of the bike compare to BMW or ducati is already a huge bargain. Comfort wise I have changed my seat, added all evo tech accessories for the GT like bar end weight and all other evo tech accessories for the GT. it was very fine for me. I am only 5"5, I feel very comfortable, the handle bar is just where it needs to be. Very well balanced bike even in very slow speed lane filtering, give me a lot of confidence to go crawling speed slow and screaming fast if needs to be. Bar end weight does help so much with the vibration.
Did you try the Versys 1000 SE GT? Four years and 18,000 miles and I’m still smiling. Has all the things you seem to want: comfortable upright riding position, relaxed torquey engine, heated grips, full ergonomic luggage, and great build quality (including self-healing paint!)
I didn't, no. I tested 5 bikes and drew the line after that. I wasn't keen on the looks or weight of the Versys, but you're right - it ticks all the boxes I wanted! And you can usually get a good deal on them from what I've seen...
You must have had a dud because my Gsx1000gt has the best/brightest motorcycle headlights I've ever owned. I've owned over 40 motorcycles and it's one of the best I've ever owned. I'm 5'8 265lbs and for me the comfort is perfect blend of sporty and comfort. I like the violent engine characteristics when I want to get after it but it can still be mellow for cruising.
I rode mine in the dark last night and can confirm that the lights are piss poor. I don't think it's a brightness issue as they are very bright , I think they are not set up properly from the factory as every other car was flashing me even when on dipped beam.
I'm looking to upgrade to a bigger bike and LOVE the aesthetics of the GSX-S1000GT, your channel has had the most informative videos about the bike and I'm happy for that. Might still end up giving one a try in a few years if they manage to iron out the kinks on it.
Thank you for posting this! This is a bike I've had my eye on for a while, and probably will end up buying by next year, but this video was deeply informative of some issues to mitigate going in.
You raise some generally applicable good points. Most review videos only mention comfort in regard to the seat and the usual suggestion there is to get a different (expensive) seat if it does not suit They usually fail to mention rough road performance and how the suspension performs, particularly in regard to the amount of suspension travel. Another neglected aspect is the seating triangle which is relevant to how body weight is distributed between bum, arms and feet. which has a lot to do with comfort, eg if your back is not the best concentrating weight on the bum will transfer it through the spine.
Hi. Good video. I've had the sx1000 and the h21000sx I have now got the 1250rs which I've done over 15,000 in a year. Great bike. I'm 6'3 and don't have a problem but I did order a high Sargent seat which helps.
I have the Honda VFR800X Crossrunner for 5 years now, and that GT has been tempting me for 2 years, even test rode it. But since my current bike is still awesome, no point to change. But indeed it's tough to make the right choice. Fortunately my VFR is perfect... but it's a right position.
I have a friend with the GT, he also has complaints about the lighting and some butt pain after a while. I have the naked one, from 2022, and find it fine in that regards. With more than 14.000 miles, and always wearing riding jeans, the tank paint its pretty much perfect. Yours seem scratched with something hard. Did you use some leg bag? Is the wear equal on both sides? Good to get real opinions, keep it up.
I wanted to like it. I had every intention of buying one. Then I sat on it. It is a sportbike. Not as aggressive as some, but the riding position is definitely a sportbike position. Not sure where the tourer part comes from. I bought a Versys 1000 SE GT+ and never looked back. Very happy with it.
My biggest issues with my GSX are the comfort and the lack of headlights. I'm only good for about 35 minutes before I have to take a break. The headlight or lack thereof scared the crap out of me when I had my first night ride trying to get home from a day ride. Beautiful powerful bike and the best handling bike that I've ever owned but the above issues really hurt it.
I got offsets for handle bars, 1 inch lower foot pegs and Sargent seat on mine. It has transformed the motorcycle. Most comfortable bike I’ve own in 45 years
I once rode a 2023 GT that was a dealer loaner. I was only on it for about an hour and a half, but I thought it was a wonderful ride, except for the loud ticking noise, almost a knock, coming from the engine. A little research online revealed that a defective cam chain tensioner is standard at no extra cost, but no, Suzuki does not want to admit that every single GT sold will develop the problem after a few thousand miles. Why do the manufacturer's choose to stonewall on such obvious defects? No Suzuki's for me.
Very interesting... I have about 1000 miles on my GSX-S GT, and I love it. No shoulder pain on long ride. My buddy has the Ninja 100sx. we were noticing that the Suzuki is slightly more upright. Sorry you were disappointed.
Great review, I was on the verge of buying it but luckily you have put me off as I have to ride a few hundred miles a week at night and day and on back roads so need great lights plus spots plus comfort. I also do long distances in France at a minimum of 5 hours after the ferry so this is not going to be my next bike.
I have test driven it and found it probably not too comfortable for the following reason: The bike has foot pegs placed in a more forward position which places your center mass on the hip instead of the feet. In a long-distance travel, the shocks on the road transfer into your back which in turn makes you uncomfortable. Moving the pegs a little backward usually makes it better but given the low height of this particular bike if you move the pegs backward it will still not be comfortable unless you raise the seat height at the same time. This is also one of the reasons why I am still not buying it yet: It needs a lot of adjustments to be ideal for me.
I have the R1250 BMW GS. Try that out. It's great power and sit more upright. Let me know if you ever ridden one brother. I almost bought the GXS 1000GT but, the BMW will always have my heart! To me, nothing can beat it.
Each to their own but I find mine comfortable enough for me, I don't find any motorcycle comfortable after about a full tank of fuel so stopping for fuel and resting my legs/bum/arms seems just about right for me.On the subject of lights I have not ridden mine at night so I can't comment on that one but other owners I have spoken to have all said how good they are and I have seen lots of youtube tests before I bought mine and none of them ever mentioned bad lights. But what I really have to take issue with on your remarks is the term ' budget bike' . Budget bike? at twelve and a half grand for the standard version? It's the same price as a Ninja 1000 SX and around the same price as a Similar spec Tracer 9. Budget? really ?
Good on you for this. I'm a good bit shorter than you, so the comfort issues may not be the same for me, but it's good to know about things from someone who has bought and used a bike for more than a few hours at a bike launch. Hope you enjoy the V-StromDE.
Test rode the GT and 1000sx back to back for a day. I was convinced before that, that the GT was the bike for me. Wrong. I found the sx miles better in every area. Now owned the sx for 14 months and I still love it.
What did you find different? These 2 are on my short list though I am leaning very much toward the SX, just seems better built from everything I've seen. I have a Yamaha FZ1 now and I really wish Yamaha would get into this game outside of the hideous Tracer GT
I also had shoulder pain issues on my Tenere, it was one of the reasons I sold it after the 2nd season. I had Z650, Z900, Tenere and now own Hypermotard 950 and Aprilia RS660, and funny enough the RS660 is by far the most comfortable bike I have ridden or owned so far. The stock seat is amazing and cruise control is a game changer, enabling me to relax both arms and sides of my back in between the twisties.
Aprreciated. I have been considering this model, and I think your video confirms my concerns, #1- the lighting. OF COURSE those tiny twinkies won't do the job, ESPECIALLY on the northeast US backroads, which are RIFE with deer. Lighting "Brightness"... is no replacement for lighting "VOLUME"; many riders may be hurt for this ridiculous "style".
Regards your seat comfort issue, how tall are you & whats your inside leg length? Im vertically challenged at 5"8 & 29 inside leg so not so sure it would be a problem. Currently riding a V strom 1050 which is the exact opposite, though just abaout managable when loaded with a low seat.
Thanks for this honest review. I've sold mine because of the wind protection. Now I have a vstrom 800 and I have the same problem with the headlights (the same ones), it's DANGEROUS ! Luckily the vstrom can be easily equiped with additionals headlights
Basically describing my recently acquired 2020 Ninja SX 1000 minus the fantastic lighting. BOTH bikes are geared RIDICULOUSLY LOW for no good reason. It makes the bike less inspiring. Hands going numb, taint going numb, seating position I'm actually a bit more comfortable on my GSXR 600 with heli-bars. Neck gets sore on the Ninja. You nailed it though it takes a few weeks to figure out many possible issues. None of us really wants a bike that's 'not a bad bike', we want a bike that continues to amaze and inspire us. I wouldn't trash my Ninja but going 75 mph redline 2nd gear on an inline four 1000cc is where I draw the line.
Both of these are on my short list when I upgrade my 04 FZ1. Most reviews say the Ninja is a better bike but not by much. I only sat on the Ninja and it felt good but you need to buy the bags separate and it doesn't look as good. I hear a lot of bad things about timing chain tick on the GT and that has me hesitant on that bike. Decisions decisions!.
I love my GT but am having issues with the cruise which the dealer has failed to rectify, any issues during your ownership? Looking for a solution to the yellow flashing light not allowing me to activate the cruise. Bizarre about the stiff pannier it’s exactly the same on mine.
Hey it's you Reef Dork. What a coincidence, to find you are also a biker as well as a reefer. I heard your voice, and I was like " there is only one guy who talks like that". I had no idea you were also doing biking content. I watched your Reefing videos, and I am also a biker interested in the GSX1000GT. coming from a very uncomfortable and hot Ducati V2.
The tool bike you mentioned on the other video is the best sports tour. Kawi 1000sx is the most comfortable touring bike. I might be the least desirable looking bike but it does what you need it to do.
Really interesting regarding headlights, that's something you don't get the chance to try on a test ride,then it's fingers crossed when you do your first night ride after purchase. My last bike, a KTM 790 adventure, was great on main beam but fairly poor on dipped - a really bad combination. Luckily latest purchase, a Guzzi V100 Mandello is pretty good in terms of beam spread and quality.
Recap: Headlights too dim, bike not comfortable, heated grips too expensive, panniers are hard to get on/off, paint quality isn't too good, engine sounds like it's going to explode at 9000 rpm, not as much fun as a super naked and last but not least, fuel range is just ok. You're welcome.
Hi, were they easy to adjust and how much did you have to adjust them by ? I took mine out for the first time in the dark last night and can confirm that they are very bright but totally out of adjustment, every other car was flashing me up and I was only on dipped beam !!
Hi and thanks for the review, you've got a nice way of presenting your opinions 👍 I've literally just bought one so only done a few miles. The bike was second hand at 20 months and 3000 miles. Still looks in great condition but a few of the fasteners on the lower fairing are starting to dull. I've got this to replace my 2011 z1000sx which has been superb over 38000 miles. I've also got a K6. First impressions for me when leaving the dealership was the comfort of the Suzuki felt better than the sx, specifically the bars that feel like a better angle on the wrists. The seat also felt comfier and i was using a Sargent seat on the sx, so i wasn't expecting it to feel better. It will be interesting to see what happens once I get a couple of hours riding under my belt. I immediately noticed the reduced torque on the Suzuki, the sx gives the impression of being much more flexible in the lower ranges. The Suzuki is a lovely engine too but completely different characteristics. I also noticed the lack of wind protection, had a puig screen on the sx and the Suzuki came with a powerbronze screen which doesn't feel bad but there is a noticeable difference between the two bikes and the sx wins. My panniers come off quite easily. Interesting point about the headlights. I've seen a few reviews and some people say their a revelation, others say they're terrible, haven't done anything night riding yet but it feels like i might be rolling the dice on this one 😂. I've also noticed an intermittent a loud and noticeable clunking when coming to rest, a bit like lose head bearings but would have thought it would be more consistent if that was the cause. I'm going to have to take her back for the dealer to investigate. I know it's early days for me but I do feel slightly disappointed at this stage, a bit like I've got a new girlfriend but preferred the old one 😢. I'm sure she'll grow on me but your review has left me feeling a certain amount of trepidation.
I had a very similar experience with a Ninja 1000sx. I bought the bike for covering long distances but ultimately found it wasn't particularly special at doing that and then found I had no interest at all in taking it out for a blast on the weekend due to its somewhat 'mundane' touring nature. Horses for courses an'all that I suppose
I had the same experience with a V-Strom 1000 I bought after an hour of testing it out. It felt fine. But when I got my new bike I felt uncomfortable after 1,5 hours of riding. Ended up trying to fix it but sold it. I am quite tall and there is something about Suzuki riding position that my body doesn't like. I now have an MT09 and I am fine on that despite it being a streetfighter.
I still love the GSXS GT. I hope you really enjoy the VSTROM. Good to see you got another Suzie.Don't suppose you want to sell tye compatible superbike stand you had in the upgrade video? Thank you!
This video spiked my interest as I was talking to someone only last week who bought one of these and he told me he hates it and regrets buying it. I own a Ninja 1000sx and do not hate it. He now wishes he had bought the Ninja instead.
I've had no issues with the GT just need to fix the maps on my spin etc I use it as a daily driver. First thing I do with my bikes is get puppy grips as after 120 mins your hands will hurt.
No, never ridden it. I have an MT-10 though and it feels more cramped than the GT but it doesn't give me back ache/shoulder ache so in a way it's more comfortable!
@@averagebiker I have a GSX 8S and I get a small ache sometimes between my shoulders. However a three hour trip with a coffee mid way is not problem on that bike. Dod not have any issues on a CBR500R or Street Triple.
I had a 23 Naked for four months then traded it for a 2024 GT. The GT with its fairing is just much more stable at higher speeds and I like a bit more wind protection. I've since gotten a Sargent seat which made a big difference.
Thanks for all the videos on the GT. Appreciated. Question for you as I have just purchased one. At about the 4:50-57 mark of the video am I seeing some "frame grip protection" below the tank and below the seat (black textured)? If so, who makes it? Thanks!
Agreed. SX not as powerful at the top end but tuned for where you need it in the mid-range. All-day smooth and comfortable and biased more to the "tourer" side of sport/tourer. Kawasaki better quality paint and components than the Suzuki, for very little extra money. Best seller in this bracket for a reason.
I agree on the the Ninja SX, I test rode both and thought the SX was the better bike in lots of ways but bought the GT because of the deal I got at the time was better for me but in hindsight I wish I had got the SX.I like the GT a lot and my mate who has just bought a S1000XR BMW thinks my GT is superb in every way and he does lots of continental touring. When my three years pcp are up I shall definitely trade in for the Ninja SX though.
@@tonychettleburgh8953 I'm not a big touring guy but enjoy being able to carry luggage. I enjoy my sunday blasts and some commuting so the GT ticks the most boxes for me. On a very subjective level, i prefer the look of the GT over the SX. I'm not sure i would look back at the SX when walking away :D
I'm currently selling my GSX-S1000 GT for much the same reasons, although I also have issues with the wind protection that I never managed to fix on it no matter how many screens I tried. I'm thinking of "downgrading" to their new V-Strom 800 RE instead, which looks like it will fix the problems I've had and still have plenty of power on tap.
@@averagebiker Congratulations on the new bike! I was actually at the dealer today. Their RE was unfortunately not ready for test rides, but I could try the DE instead. Its a really comfortable machine, and I think it has plenty of torque on tap. It won't get screaming top-speeds like the GSX, but I cannot fault anything on its acceleration. That 800 engine is just a peach. ^^
I considered this bike or the Ninja last year, I ended up with the Ducati Supersport 950S in the end, more money I know but I’m well happy, fast, comfortable and slightly smaller and lighter and it certainly raises my pulse when I open my garage door..
I've wanted a bike for long distance after finding my 1100 twin naked a little bit of a bore for anything other than fun A and B roads. I was looking at this, test rode it but now moving towards the much more expensive MG's V100. I really don't want to spend £££ on an adventure bike and join the crowd of tiptoeing manufacture all-in-one wearing SUV equivalent riders - but what else is there for a 300 mile day?
wow those scratches on the tank wtf, that's just from normal use nothing scraped against it? my vfr has 15k miles and has a couple stone chips on the tank but no scratches anywhere and i only use muc off polish and hardly baby it
The general consensus I hear is that this is good but unrefined, or at least not as refined as the Ninja SX its so often compared to. I sat on a Ninja SX today at my local dealer and it felt pretty darn good. I think the GSX looks better but only slightly and I want refinement if I'm buying a new $15k bike. Going to check out your other vids too.
Thank you for that review. I was considering this bike because on paper, as you mentioned, seemed like has everything. However, seat comfort is something that seems to be ignored by many reviews and I think that is fully off the mark. The seat, as in a car, is an important part of the suspension in the way that it gives comfort/support to the occupant/rider. I have gotten on many bikes and it is immediately obvious to me with i.e. XSR900 for example, that riding that for more than 30 mins, your ass will want an immediate divorce. Sure it will wheelie with a crack of the throttle, but if that is your purpose for owning a street bike, you won't have your license very long. In any case, I have nixed this from my list based on your review and I appreciate the heads up.
Damn, I nearly bought one on the basis of your first review🤣 I'm kind of looking at the R1250RS but have a Livewire One in Paris currently for free parking reasons. It's also fast and handles but has no protection. I'm looking for a sports bike for the city on which I can happily make weekend trips. I've owned many ICEs including a GS1250 and Tiger 900GT, plus pure sports bikes.
@@averagebiker the wind protection is the main aim 😂 the Mandello sounds like a blast. Or I can try to get a custom screen made for the Livewire. It's an incredible machine barring some electronic issues
First, I never considered this bike for any type of actual touring or "sport-touring" no matter how it is marketed. There are MUCH better bikes for that. I purchased it to be a ripping sport bike I can ride through the twisty roads on good-weather days and there it excels. The bike was great other than the HORRID rear shock (which was ok with the author) and terrible seat. I replaced both (K-tech shock and Sargent seat) and now it's close to perfect for me. I'm 5'7" and have no problem with the riding position. I couldn't tell you about the lights because I never ride at night, ever, but I do want good high beams for daytime visibility. I will look into how they are adjusted soon. I do not ride with panniers but the few times I mounted them, YES, the right one is an absolute pain in the butt to get off! They are also very cheap and flimsy IMO. I installed Oxford heated grips for 1/3 the price of OEM. Why anyone would consider the OEM grips is beyond me as they are substandard at best. 4500 miles on and I still love the exhilaration this bike gives me. No problems with the paint at all. Speed, power and handling are off-the-charts good.
@@5tevieb954best screens I’ve tested for touring are the German made MRA Vario touring "VTM" screens. I tested loads of screens and adapters on my Africa Twin due to the wind buffeting and after spending close to £2,000 I finally settled on the MRA Vario touring screen. I’ve got a MRA Vario touring screen fitted to my Suzuki GT too.
I've ridden them back to back, mind you my GT is flash tuned which helped my low end a lot. The SX felt under powered after getting off of my bike to be honest which makes sense, seeing that it's down about 10 HP stock. The SX is still a nice bike in every sense of the word and is even geared better for out right touring with its larger engine keeping the revs lower at highway speeds. I come from sportbikes though so I prefer the sportier nature of the GT.
my last bike was a 2017 Yamaha MT10 SP and i loved that bike but 3 months ago i traded it in for a Kawasaki ZH2 supercharged and i wish i still had my MT10 SP back. the Kawasaki is brilliant but its not a patch on the MT10 i had for my riding style. will be selling it next year and going back to the yamaha. as for the tank scratches i always put Motografix tank protection on my bikes
@@averagebiker you would get used to the weight🤔, was on tour with mine @ Easter bank holiday, in the Lake District. We done the Hardnott Pass, fully loaded (both ways), no problems atall😁🇬🇧🇬🇧
Everyone entitled to an opinion I guess. I don’t have any gripes with my GT. I didn’t buy luggage for mine as I won’t use for touring and wanted to save some cash. Comfort wise…. I’ve ridden far worse. The things I thought you were going to flag up weren’t here so all good.
Everything you listed as a negative is a positive for me I cannot abide naked bikes they are objectively less bike for the same money in my opinion and I love a 4 and high revving. The part about the paint and bag issues I just can't believe those are warranty issues you could have taken the bike back for
I had a gsxs1000GT I agree the seat is uncomfortable after about 3-4 hrs on it. I sold mine after 18 months, I bought the Kawasaki z1000SX more comfortable seat and better handling , and better brakes.
Hi have a 2024 model. Lovely looking machine but… totally agree with you. 2 hour ride and real coccyx discomfort. Well, a real pain in the butt. Fine for short runs but as a sports tourer, sorry, but no, px on the cards. Only my opinion and not prepared to splash out loads of cash on a ‘comfort seat’. Looking at the Ninja thousand performance tourer
Was it your first sports tourer? I know it is too late now and far from me teaching anyone their business, but your complaints about the long riding are common when coming from other styles. Sidebags sell because they are practical, but worthless on a SpTourer, all you need is a tank bag tall enough to lean/hug on it and but still read the dash (instant relief on shoulders/wrists), and maybe a backpack on the passenger seat. The weight must be at the front, going against the geometry of a SpTourer is a losing fight, no matter how much money you spend, and the dealer won't tell you that because they want to sell you shit.
Kind of - I had a SuperDuke GT before that was more comfortable. The Gixxus GT is based on a super naked so I thought it might be similar to the SDGT, but it's less comfy. And yeah, trying to make the bike something it wasn't supposed to be didn't work! Selling was the right option for me - love my V-Strom now 🙂
Suzuki also made a strange gearing choice for this bike. 5,000 RPM at 70 MPH is very busy for a tourer. Even my old reliable SV thou is doing 80 at those revs.
Agreed, although I thought it coincides with 6,000 rpm. Whatever the speed/rpm at 70mph I get vibrations through the handlebars which numb my fingers after long stints on motorways when I’m touring across the continent. I tried fitting grip puppies but these didn’t seem to help much. I’ve noted the new GX has a rubber gasket between the handlebar clamp and top of the triple clamp, so I’m wondering if Suzuki would retrofit such a gasket to the GT?
@@Paulie44 It's odd that this came about. I don't recall any complaints about vibrations when the K5/6 engine was in its original guise as a sports bike. In 1983 I bought a new Yamaha XJ900F which was terrible at above 80MPH but was attended to b Yamaha the year following. The rubber gasket you spoke of also reminded me of a 1975 Suzuki T500 two stroke twin I had back then, which had so much rubber below the bar clamps that it felt as though Spongebob had designed it.
@@michaelarchangel1163I’ve had earlier versions such as the 2001 K1 and then a later 2015 GSXR 1000 and neither suffered vibrations in the handlebars and I could ride for hours. I’m keen to test the new GX and see how that runs on motorways because on my continental tours we cover a lot of miles on motorways to get to our riding destination, and then spend a week in the mountain twisties wherever we are.
Strangely enough, now that my GT has just over 1000 miles on her I was on the M25 this morning doing exactly 70mph and the revs are bout 4,800 so I guess that it is loosening up. That was on the flat with a slight headwind and no tingles or vibrations anywhere, really smooth and comfortable.
I have to agree, I have owned mine for one year 6,400 miles and now it is for sale. This bike is a great sport bike with baggage. If you want to go fast and take your lunch, water, stuff etc. it is great. If you are carving canyons, moving around and going at a fast pace it is so much fun. But I cannot ride it for more than an hour. Somehow Suzuki made a touring bike that has an awful seat and a cramped peg position. I wanted a touring bike with some sportiness. I got a heavy sport bike that is super uncomfortable. I did put a Suzuki comfort seat, and it was a bit better but still my Aprilia 660 had a far better seat. The bike is super reliable, and I have had no mechanical issues. But boy is it uncomfortable.
@@mikeglick3507 I don’t agree with the comfort comment. We all fit differently. I’m 6’1. And It’s not uncomfortable for me. The windshields that are available cause me to have some buffeting. But otherwise I have no other complaints. It’s a grand touring bike. Not a touring bike. Once that is realized it’ll make sense.
I have had one for 2 years. Over 10000 miles and I think its a great bike. Any bike will have pros and cons. One thing is for sure. Its not green or an SX.
What a shame, we really need more choice in the Sports Tourer end of the market (as opposed to Adventure bikes masquerading as Sports Tourers. I can't believe they've launched a bike in 2024 with poor headlights. It just shouts form over function. These days given the technology available they should be lighting up the street.
Just by a 🚗 you will be comfortable. It is a SPORT touring motorcycle. Ride a r1 then the gt and maybe t you will see the differences.😂 I have a r1 and i can drive that with passenger 1 hour and 20 min. But as you say that is your opinion.
I bought one of these this spring, I find a lot of the same things that you have. I'm glad it's my only bike. I bought this will be a comuter bike for me. I needed a sport bike with bags so it fits my needs. Great vid
It Not my only bike
Pretty much every issue you've said is the whole reason I bought the ninja 1000sx instead. It's good to see a video where someone's being honest about their opinion.
@@stuyrides5144 you know when they’ve been making a bike for at least 10 years they have it sorted out. The Ninja 1000 is a strong contender for my next bike. If it had an Amu and cruise control in 2015 I’d probably be riding it now.
@@aluisious IMU ?
GSX 1000 S is much better fitted with a Puig Screen and Swmottec blade panniers
Your point is lost on 90% of people because they wont admit they brought the wrong bike and are stuck with it. Reading bike tests is a waste of time. I made a big mistake in 2015 and learned from that experience. When buying a new bike at the end of 2022 i made dam sure NO fork ups were made.
Ultimately, it's all personal preference.
If anyone is to criticise you for this, then they really need to grow up. We are all different. The bike community is odd, some of the nicest people you'll meet, but when it comes to the YT comments, some are also the most bitter and childish i have ever come across.
We ride what we want. Just appreciate bikes for what they give us, instead of acting like 3 year olds.
Many won't experience any negatives on a 1h test ride. I recently got a new XSR900. Did a quick 20-minute test ride and i bought it. My first 5 hour ride out today killed my arse. These things we pick up later into ownership, or first long ride for me 😂.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the new bike reveal.👍
Love the XSR900! Test rode it on three different occasions and it was that last trip out that the seat reminded me that I wasn't getting any younger!
I too recently bought a new (blue) XSR900. Rode it for the first time on Easter Sunday and my backside, still hasn’t recovered. Blimey that seat’s hard 😧
@@inked-96 I agree. I'd have no less respect for all those that love this bike, just expressing personal frustration..... the N1K Ninja community were some of the best nicest people I've ever met. I'm just beside myself over this one 😆
I'm considering buying an xsr. Besides the seat, how do you like the bike?
I been back and forth looking at bikes and I keep going back to the xsr.
@RPDXC Fantastic little bike. Engine is a peach.
I added raisers to my handle bars, swapped out the seat with a Corbin and added a touring wind screen. Love my GT❤❤❤❤
where did you buy the Corbin seat and the handlebars risers from ?
Just complete an Iron butt (1000 mile in 24 hr) with this stock bike and fits me fine and through it was super comfy for me, being 5'11. It might be worth giving some rider specific height and so on if you found it uncomfortable so people can get a gauge on if this might be good advice for them or not. To be honest the first people I've heard to not get on with comfort or lights and had probablems with paintwork. Not my experience of the bike after 12k mile and 2 and half years. Didn't opt for the panniers however and probably won't now and 100% agree about the heated grip.
Wow! I didn’t realise you had so many issues with the GT.
I agree with the insane asking price of the heated grips, more than twice any other manufacturer and I’m guessing this is where Suzuki claws back some money in accessories.
I don’t have an issue with the panniers and because I don’t generally ride at night I can’t comment on the headlight throw and spread.
However, I’m surprised you never mentioned the woeful front brake (the culprit being the master cylinder) or the inadequate OE tyres (Dunlops).
Paint finish isn’t great and I’ve already had several stone chips on my rims within the first year.
As for seat comfort, I’m a short arse at 5’9" and find the seating position comfortable for all day rides, but the handlebars are at a strange angle and I had to get used to my wrists bending outwards to hold the grips - even a mate commented on the weird angle when he rode my bike for a while.
This will be my third year of ownership and overall I’m still pleased with my GT purchase as I knew it was built to a price.
I’m keen to see your next bike because I’ve been eyeing up the Suzuki GX for my next tour.
Edit: I forgot to add that I get an annoying buzzing through the handlebars at around 6,000 rpm which is exactly where I’m cruising on motorways across the continent and it leads to white finger syndrome after a few hundred miles. I’ve even added a set of grip puppies to try reduce the vibrations. Does anyone else get the buzzing/vibrations through the bars?
Keep up the good work 👍
@Paulie44, I had the same buzzing issue with my 2018 GSX S1000FA at 6000 rpm, I solved it by changing sprockets (1 tooth bigger in front and 1 tooth smaller in back, that way the rear axle location stays the same), and also went with a taller rear tire (200/55 Bridgestone S22), those changes gave me substantially taller legs on the highway which put the buzz-zone at about 95 mph which is a hair above my cruise speed, so problem solved. That solution did, however, make for a rather tall 1st gear but I'm personally okay with that.
Oh, I also added some heavier bar end weights, filled the handlebar with BBs and added foam grips. Those mods helped quite a bit.
@@markcayton6712 thanks for the advice, I’ll probably go the sprockets and taller tyre route on the next bike (undecided if it’ll be another Suzuki GSX-S 1000GT or the Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX, or even the GSX-S 1000GX)
Yes all straight fours have this problem. No way around it. I didnt buy a Kawa 1400 because of this very reason. I own a twin but do have a 1997 GSXR1100 and this bike never goes on long distance rides. Smoothest but most complicated are the V4
I have the same bike. Here are my thoughts but keep in mind, I am coming from a GSXR1000K6. The paint is way too thin. The limited leg room makes it a bit uncomfortable for me on longer trips but supposedly there's a guy making highway pegs for them now which should help a bit. My panniers come off pretty easily and they hold a lot. Don’t really care about the heated grips. I paid $16K cash for the bike. What’s another $400 bucks? Plus I live in Florida lol.
I'd say it's a super comfortable sport bike and less of traditional sports tourer like a Concours, RS, RT, VFR, etc. Surprisingly I felt the r1250RS that I test rode a month ago during Bike Week less comfortable with more of a forward lean angle. Great low end torque out of that boxer engine though!
My biggest gripe with the Suzuki, besides the stock brakes being atrocious, is them giving us the GT’s K5 derived engine in a detuned state while still being quite revvy on the highway. I find myself wishing it was a bit stronger in the mid range and less rev happy on the highway. My bike is flashed but I’m still trying to decide if I should put a pipe on it for a bit more juice or keep it “gentleman like” the way it is in stock form. Who knew I’d miss the raw nuts of my old bike? Still I find it to be a very very good bike and I know when I look at my mostly sportbike friends while out on those longer rides, I’m still way more comfortable than they are. The GT is the jack of all trades though and really the master of none.
If you’re looking for the bike that blows your socks off, this isn’t it. If you’re looking for one of the best bang for buck all rounders in the market place that is still proper fast and with decent comfort than you’re in the right place. Just don’t buy one expecting to do multi day tours in total comfort as if you’re on one of Beemer’s flagship bikes. Not going to happen…but then again, those won’t handle nearly as well either.
I also think Suzuki should have given this bike a 1200 motor, a Brembo radial master cylinder and maybe just charged us a bit more for it all. That would add superbike level brakes, a bunch of torque while also bringing the highway revs down a bit and still keeping the emissions police happy. That said, I'll also be adding something else to the stable too but I won't be letting the GT go anytime soon. It's just way too practical, even if it ain't the most exciting or comfortable thing out there.
Great write up. I had a 2015 GSXR 1000 two bikes before the GT.
Do you also get buzzing/vibrations through the handlebars at motorway cruising speeds at approximately 6.000 rpm? I’ve fitted grip puppies to try alleviate the buzzing but to no avail. I was thinking of reducing one tooth on the rear sprocket to drop the revs when I’m touring.
@Paulie44 Thanks man and yes, my hands definitely get a bit tingley at those RPM's. I'll usually use the cruise control and move my hands and fingers around a bit to prevent them from going numb. I'm thinking about adding bar end weights to help alleviate the problem.
@@MalShakurI’ve already tried bar end weights from R&G (stainless bar end weights) and when they turned up I weighed them and found them loads lighter than the standard Suzuki bar end weights, so I never bothered fitting them. Can’t recall the exact weight difference but it was quite a big difference.
I think the best solution may be to alter the gearing slightly to drop the revs for 70mph cruising.
I had a good look at the GX in the showroom and noticed it has a rubber gasket between the handlebars mount and the top triple clamp - Suzuki must’ve listened to feedback from owners to remove the vibrations.
Could you share why you choose the SUZUKI over the KAWASAKI?
@@desidudevfor me it was down to looks and the feel of the bike when I sat on the two side by side at Manchester bike show. I felt more comfortable on the Suzuki.
As mentioned at the start, I also preferred the looks of the Suzuki when they were side by side.
GT is "day long comfortable" for those coming off from nakeds or clip-on bikes. It seems like you will be very happy with an upright 2 cylinder touring machine. I believe you would love the Moto Guzzi V85 (rode it, I loved it, not good for city riding) or something similar.
I can have almost as much fun on a street triple 765 as with my GT but I can ride it all day too, with some compromises of course, which I knew before I bought it. The "exploding" part of the engine has also my dopamine charts exploding :P. Last one, for me setting up the suspension a difference of 60% more grip.
I have a 2024 GSXs 1000 Gt and I absolutely love it. The lights are extremely bright and give more the ample coverage. Maybe your headlights weren’t adjusted correctly? I did get a Sargent seat made for the bike it’s extremely comfortable. I’ve been on 5-6 hours ride and it was very uncomfortable for me. To eaches own
Truth be known I have a 1000 SX.
Thanks for honest review of your bike and personal experience from your perspective. I think that’s all we, as viewers, should ask from anyone that’s posting. I apologize in advance for all the goobers that are going to tell you that your perceptions are inappropriate because their’s don’t agree…!
Lastly, if I had a dollar for every time the guy that has had “10,000 motorcycles” over the last “two millennia” has an opinion that disagrees with your experience but insists on parading ‘bona fides’ to prove that his ‘opinion’ is more superior than yours… I would be richer than Elon Musk!
I DO love my 1000sx! Long, strong, and comfortable.
Im a bit Kawasaki biased myself. At the end of 2022 i felt they were the only motorcycle brand to choose from. All the other brands were lame.
What a great balanced and sensitively done review . Most modern bikes have great features but they are all costing a shed load of money and too many reviewers dont highlight what you have -fantastic ...well done & thanks
Thanks man, appreciate it
Glad I watched this. This bike was on my shortlist but I too have been infuriated by many of the same issues. So now it's off the list. Subscribed 👍
I come from Kawasaki Z900, and I only needed to seat on the GT, spend about a minute on it, get off, and knew it wasn't nearly as comfortable as it should be for a sport tourer. The bars are too far and low, so much so that I said that my Z900 was more comfortable in terms of seating position. Yeah, I was unpleasently surprised. Yeah, I'm probably getting a Versys 1000. I reckon you'd be happy with that one ;)
Bikes as so divisive. I test rode a Suzuki years ago and it felt good, was only allowed a 20min test ride. I bought the bike but like you sold it 12 months later as it was just awful to sit on after 50 mins. I now have a S1000R and I can ride that for 3-4 hours before I started to get uncomfortable. The geometry of every bike works differently for every rider, its just unfortunate that you can't find this out with such short test rides.
Yeah it's so funny. My MT-10 is really cramped compared to the GT but I can ride that for hours.
This is exactly why I'd never buy a bike based on a mainstream reviewers spew and wait untill I could see reviews from actual owners or at least unbiased independent reviewers. In recent years that wasn't possible due to lack of rubber hitting showroom floors. Bikes had to be pre-ordered and none were available for test rides, this resulted in many regretful purchases.
Just an opinion of a guy have not seen a picture ... may be his problems are HIS problems.
I could of learned a lesson B4 buying my 22 plate tracer 9gt such a terrible bike.i can't wait to sell it
@@elvisthewart670 I'm sorry you fell into the trap, the Tracer GT was amongst bikes I considered for myself but I didn't like the goggle eyed dash. I was tempted again when the GT Plus got the TFT screen but thankfully I watched some real life reviews and crossed it off my list. I hope you're able to sell it and get something you enjoy.
I had some initial discomfort with the seat on my Kawasaki Z1000SX but it soon stopped being an issue (just got used to it? 🤷♂️) After 4 years I'm still loving it (check out my long term review videos)
It's a shame you didn't get on with your bike. Always good to get a real owner's perspective, they're much more qualified than someone's impressions from a press event. Good luck with your next bike.
I’ll have a gander at your long term Kawasaki video because I had the option of the ZX Ninja or the Suzuki GT and I preferred the look of the Suzuki. If Kawasaki were to update their SX it would be a top contender for my next bike.
Dang. I love the GT+. 2,500 miles isn't much...I took mine on a 4,600+ mile cross country road trip the first week i got mine after the first service. It was a blast.
I'm now getting the bike tuned after a couple internals.
I have the the gsxs gt for 3 years now. 20,000 km odo. I have to say the headlights are bright enough for me, high beam on the gt is overkill as it was like a beam shooting right in front and lit up the side as well, blinding anyone in front which can cause hazard . The side panniers, i rarely took them off, I dont think it is designed for you to take it on and off all the time. It is a brilliant design, you only need your key to remove the pannier, no tools needed which is very handy when you need to do repairs. I do agree the OEM seat is not really that comfy, I have changed mine to an italian made one with memory foam which makes it so much better. The seat and auxiliary lights you bought was sadly your fault for not making sure if it fits the bike and if the seat is right for you. The heated grips are expensive i do agree on that, but it works and get hot really quick rain or shine and the price of the bike compare to BMW or ducati is already a huge bargain.
Comfort wise I have changed my seat, added all evo tech accessories for the GT like bar end weight and all other evo tech accessories for the GT. it was very fine for me. I am only 5"5, I feel very comfortable, the handle bar is just where it needs to be. Very well balanced bike even in very slow speed lane filtering, give me a lot of confidence to go crawling speed slow and screaming fast if needs to be. Bar end weight does help so much with the vibration.
Did the bar end weights sort the handlebar 6000 tingle ?
Did you try the Versys 1000 SE GT? Four years and 18,000 miles and I’m still smiling. Has all the things you seem to want: comfortable upright riding position, relaxed torquey engine, heated grips, full ergonomic luggage, and great build quality (including self-healing paint!)
I didn't, no. I tested 5 bikes and drew the line after that. I wasn't keen on the looks or weight of the Versys, but you're right - it ticks all the boxes I wanted! And you can usually get a good deal on them from what I've seen...
PS and the Versys 1000 has a bigger payload than a BMW K1600! Check out the specs if you don’t believe me
You must have had a dud because my Gsx1000gt has the best/brightest motorcycle headlights I've ever owned. I've owned over 40 motorcycles and it's one of the best I've ever owned. I'm 5'8 265lbs and for me the comfort is perfect blend of sporty and comfort. I like the violent engine characteristics when I want to get after it but it can still be mellow for cruising.
I rode mine in the dark last night and can confirm that the lights are piss poor. I don't think it's a brightness issue as they are very bright , I think they are not set up properly from the factory as every other car was flashing me even when on dipped beam.
@@tonychettleburgh8953 since owning mine for a while longer I agree that they need to be adjusted. I'm going to attempt to adjust the angle of mine
@@krazokid19 Hi and thanks for replying, can you let me know how you adjusted yours and if it worked for you ? regards Tony.
265lbs Christ 😢😢😢
I'm looking to upgrade to a bigger bike and LOVE the aesthetics of the GSX-S1000GT, your channel has had the most informative videos about the bike and I'm happy for that. Might still end up giving one a try in a few years if they manage to iron out the kinks on it.
Thank you for posting this!
This is a bike I've had my eye on for a while, and probably will end up buying by next year, but this video was deeply informative of some issues to mitigate going in.
You raise some generally applicable good points. Most review videos only mention comfort in regard to the seat and the usual suggestion there is to get a different (expensive) seat if it does not suit They usually fail to mention rough road performance and how the suspension performs, particularly in regard to the amount of suspension travel. Another neglected aspect is the seating triangle which is relevant to how body weight is distributed between bum, arms and feet. which has a lot to do with comfort, eg if your back is not the best concentrating weight on the bum will transfer it through the spine.
Hi. Good video. I've had the sx1000 and the h21000sx I have now got the 1250rs which I've done over 15,000 in a year. Great bike. I'm 6'3 and don't have a problem but I did order a high Sargent seat which helps.
I have the Honda VFR800X Crossrunner for 5 years now, and that GT has been tempting me for 2 years, even test rode it. But since my current bike is still awesome, no point to change. But indeed it's tough to make the right choice. Fortunately my VFR is perfect... but it's a right position.
Keep that Honda and don't let it out of your sight
I have a friend with the GT, he also has complaints about the lighting and some butt pain after a while.
I have the naked one, from 2022, and find it fine in that regards.
With more than 14.000 miles, and always wearing riding jeans, the tank paint its pretty much perfect. Yours seem scratched with something hard.
Did you use some leg bag?
Is the wear equal on both sides?
Good to get real opinions, keep it up.
No, just riding jeans - nothing rough on that area of my legs. Might just be the type of denim or something 🤷
I wanted to like it. I had every intention of buying one. Then I sat on it. It is a sportbike. Not as aggressive as some, but the riding position is definitely a sportbike position. Not sure where the tourer part comes from.
I bought a Versys 1000 SE GT+ and never looked back. Very happy with it.
My biggest issues with my GSX are the comfort and the lack of headlights. I'm only good for about 35 minutes before I have to take a break. The headlight or lack thereof scared the crap out of me when I had my first night ride trying to get home from a day ride. Beautiful powerful bike and the best handling bike that I've ever owned but the above issues really hurt it.
I got offsets for handle bars, 1 inch lower foot pegs and Sargent seat on mine. It has transformed the motorcycle. Most comfortable bike I’ve own in 45 years
@@MP-hi8dp How about the headlight issue? Does it bother you?
I once rode a 2023 GT that was a dealer loaner. I was only on it for about an hour and a half, but I thought it was a wonderful ride, except for the loud ticking noise, almost a knock, coming from the engine. A little research online revealed that a defective cam chain tensioner is standard at no extra cost, but no, Suzuki does not want to admit that every single GT sold will develop the problem after a few thousand miles. Why do the manufacturer's choose to stonewall on such obvious defects? No Suzuki's for me.
Very interesting... I have about 1000 miles on my GSX-S GT, and I love it. No shoulder pain on long ride. My buddy has the Ninja 100sx. we were noticing that the Suzuki is slightly more upright. Sorry you were disappointed.
Great review, I was on the verge of buying it but luckily you have put me off as I have to ride a few hundred miles a week at night and day and on back roads so need great lights plus spots plus comfort. I also do long distances in France at a minimum of 5 hours after the ferry so this is not going to be my next bike.
Got the GSX 1250 FA. Was thinking about this bike. Thanks for the review.
I have test driven it and found it probably not too comfortable for the following reason: The bike has foot pegs placed in a more forward position which places your center mass on the hip instead of the feet. In a long-distance travel, the shocks on the road transfer into your back which in turn makes you uncomfortable. Moving the pegs a little backward usually makes it better but given the low height of this particular bike if you move the pegs backward it will still not be comfortable unless you raise the seat height at the same time. This is also one of the reasons why I am still not buying it yet: It needs a lot of adjustments to be ideal for me.
I have the R1250 BMW GS. Try that out. It's great power and sit more upright. Let me know if you ever ridden one brother. I almost bought the GXS 1000GT but, the BMW will always have my heart! To me, nothing can beat it.
Yeah I tested one a while ago - loved it, just couldn't afford it. Seriously impressive bit of kit though!
Each to their own but I find mine comfortable enough for me, I don't find any motorcycle comfortable after about a full tank of fuel so stopping for fuel and resting my legs/bum/arms seems just about right for me.On the subject of lights I have not ridden mine at night so I can't comment on that one but other owners I have spoken to have all said how good they are and I have seen lots of youtube tests before I bought mine and none of them ever mentioned bad lights. But what I really have to take issue with on your remarks is the term ' budget bike' . Budget bike? at twelve and a half grand for the standard version? It's the same price as a Ninja 1000 SX and around the same price as a Similar spec Tracer 9. Budget? really ?
Good on you for this. I'm a good bit shorter than you, so the comfort issues may not be the same for me, but it's good to know about things from someone who has bought and used a bike for more than a few hours at a bike launch. Hope you enjoy the V-StromDE.
Test rode the GT and 1000sx back to back for a day. I was convinced before that, that the GT was the bike for me. Wrong. I found the sx miles better in every area. Now owned the sx for 14 months and I still love it.
What did you find different? These 2 are on my short list though I am leaning very much toward the SX, just seems better built from everything I've seen. I have a Yamaha FZ1 now and I really wish Yamaha would get into this game outside of the hideous Tracer GT
I also had shoulder pain issues on my Tenere, it was one of the reasons I sold it after the 2nd season. I had Z650, Z900, Tenere and now own Hypermotard 950 and Aprilia RS660, and funny enough the RS660 is by far the most comfortable bike I have ridden or owned so far. The stock seat is amazing and cruise control is a game changer, enabling me to relax both arms and sides of my back in between the twisties.
Yeah, bike ergos are really weird like that I'm starting to notice
Aprreciated. I have been considering this model, and I think your video confirms my concerns, #1- the lighting. OF COURSE those tiny twinkies won't do the job, ESPECIALLY on the northeast US backroads, which are RIFE with deer. Lighting "Brightness"... is no replacement for lighting "VOLUME"; many riders may be hurt for this ridiculous "style".
I have that problem here in NH with my Multistrada. not enough side lighting at night.
Regards your seat comfort issue, how tall are you & whats your inside leg length? Im vertically challenged at 5"8 & 29 inside leg so not so sure it would be a problem. Currently riding a V strom 1050 which is the exact opposite, though just abaout managable when loaded with a low seat.
I'm 6' 1" with a 33" leg
Thanks for this honest review. I've sold mine because of the wind protection. Now I have a vstrom 800 and I have the same problem with the headlights (the same ones), it's DANGEROUS ! Luckily the vstrom can be easily equiped with additionals headlights
I replaced this with an 800 DE - just waiting to have aux lights fitted to the crash bars myself!
Basically describing my recently acquired 2020 Ninja SX 1000 minus the fantastic lighting. BOTH bikes are geared RIDICULOUSLY LOW for no good reason. It makes the bike less inspiring. Hands going numb, taint going numb, seating position I'm actually a bit more comfortable on my GSXR 600 with heli-bars. Neck gets sore on the Ninja.
You nailed it though it takes a few weeks to figure out many possible issues.
None of us really wants a bike that's 'not a bad bike', we want a bike that continues to amaze and inspire us. I wouldn't trash my Ninja but going 75 mph redline 2nd gear on an inline four 1000cc is where I draw the line.
Both of these are on my short list when I upgrade my 04 FZ1. Most reviews say the Ninja is a better bike but not by much. I only sat on the Ninja and it felt good but you need to buy the bags separate and it doesn't look as good. I hear a lot of bad things about timing chain tick on the GT and that has me hesitant on that bike. Decisions decisions!.
Funny thing is I bought the base gsx-s1000, added panniers and ride the hell out if it, lamenting a lack of cruise control. 😂
Thank you for your candid review. It sounds like something like the Tracer 9 GT or S1000 XR might be a better fit for you.
nice review mate, what is your height if i may ask and you think a taller or shorter driver will fit better?
I'm 6' 1" so maybe. But bike ergos are funny and seem to be very personal - loads people find this bike comfy!
I love my GT but am having issues with the cruise which the dealer has failed to rectify, any issues during your ownership? Looking for a solution to the yellow flashing light not allowing me to activate the cruise. Bizarre about the stiff pannier it’s exactly the same on mine.
No, mine was always fine
Should have brought a V Strom.😂😂
Or a Versys
Hey it's you Reef Dork. What a coincidence, to find you are also a biker as well as a reefer. I heard your voice, and I was like " there is only one guy who talks like that". I had no idea you were also doing biking content. I watched your Reefing videos, and I am also a biker interested in the GSX1000GT. coming from a very uncomfortable and hot Ducati V2.
Yep, it's me! Love Ducatis 🙂
The tool bike you mentioned on the other video is the best sports tour. Kawi 1000sx is the most comfortable touring bike. I might be the least desirable looking bike but it does what you need it to do.
Really interesting regarding headlights, that's something you don't get the chance to try on a test ride,then it's fingers crossed when you do your first night ride after purchase. My last bike, a KTM 790 adventure, was great on main beam but fairly poor on dipped - a really bad combination. Luckily latest purchase, a Guzzi V100 Mandello is pretty good in terms of beam spread and quality.
Recap: Headlights too dim, bike not comfortable, heated grips too expensive, panniers are hard to get on/off, paint quality isn't too good, engine sounds like it's going to explode at 9000 rpm, not as much fun as a super naked and last but not least, fuel range is just ok. You're welcome.
Did you adjust the headlights? Mine sucked then I adjusted them and they were better than most other bikes
No I didn't - didn't know you could! But power was the main issue so I wanted more brightness...
Hi, were they easy to adjust and how much did you have to adjust them by ? I took mine out for the first time in the dark last night and can confirm that they are very bright but totally out of adjustment, every other car was flashing me up and I was only on dipped beam !!
Hi and thanks for the review, you've got a nice way of presenting your opinions 👍
I've literally just bought one so only done a few miles. The bike was second hand at 20 months and 3000 miles. Still looks in great condition but a few of the fasteners on the lower fairing are starting to dull.
I've got this to replace my 2011 z1000sx which has been superb over 38000 miles. I've also got a K6.
First impressions for me when leaving the dealership was the comfort of the Suzuki felt better than the sx, specifically the bars that feel like a better angle on the wrists. The seat also felt comfier and i was using a Sargent seat on the sx, so i wasn't expecting it to feel better. It will be interesting to see what happens once I get a couple of hours riding under my belt.
I immediately noticed the reduced torque on the Suzuki, the sx gives the impression of being much more flexible in the lower ranges. The Suzuki is a lovely engine too but completely different characteristics.
I also noticed the lack of wind protection, had a puig screen on the sx and the Suzuki came with a powerbronze screen which doesn't feel bad but there is a noticeable difference between the two bikes and the sx wins.
My panniers come off quite easily. Interesting point about the headlights. I've seen a few reviews and some people say their a revelation, others say they're terrible, haven't done anything night riding yet but it feels like i might be rolling the dice on this one 😂.
I've also noticed an intermittent a loud and noticeable clunking when coming to rest, a bit like lose head bearings but would have thought it would be more consistent if that was the cause. I'm going to have to take her back for the dealer to investigate.
I know it's early days for me but I do feel slightly disappointed at this stage, a bit like I've got a new girlfriend but preferred the old one 😢. I'm sure she'll grow on me but your review has left me feeling a certain amount of trepidation.
I had a very similar experience with a Ninja 1000sx. I bought the bike for covering long distances but ultimately found it wasn't particularly special at doing that and then found I had no interest at all in taking it out for a blast on the weekend due to its somewhat 'mundane' touring nature. Horses for courses an'all that I suppose
I am surprised you didnt́ liked the Kawa. What was the problem ?
I had the same experience with a V-Strom 1000 I bought after an hour of testing it out. It felt fine. But when I got my new bike I felt uncomfortable after 1,5 hours of riding. Ended up trying to fix it but sold it. I am quite tall and there is something about Suzuki riding position that my body doesn't like. I now have an MT09 and I am fine on that despite it being a streetfighter.
I still love the GSXS GT. I hope you really enjoy the VSTROM. Good to see you got another Suzie.Don't suppose you want to sell tye compatible superbike stand you had in the upgrade video? Thank you!
I'm keeping the superbike stand but you can have the adapter for free if you like...
Thanks for sharing it. Sometimes we just see thangs after time. Drop by when have time, you may like my content. Cheers and take care.
This video spiked my interest as I was talking to someone only last week who bought one of these and he told me he hates it and regrets buying it. I own a Ninja 1000sx and do not hate it. He now wishes he had bought the Ninja instead.
Great insight, thanks for sharing
I've had no issues with the GT just need to fix the maps on my spin etc I use it as a daily driver. First thing I do with my bikes is get puppy grips as after 120 mins your hands will hurt.
Very interesting. Have you ridden the GSX S1000 naked any distance?
No, never ridden it. I have an MT-10 though and it feels more cramped than the GT but it doesn't give me back ache/shoulder ache so in a way it's more comfortable!
@@averagebiker I have a GSX 8S and I get a small ache sometimes between my shoulders. However a three hour trip with a coffee mid way is not problem on that bike. Dod not have any issues on a CBR500R or Street Triple.
I had a 23 Naked for four months then traded it for a 2024 GT. The GT with its fairing is just much more stable at higher speeds and I like a bit more wind protection. I've since gotten a Sargent seat which made a big difference.
Thanks for all the videos on the GT. Appreciated. Question for you as I have just purchased one. At about the 4:50-57 mark of the video am I seeing some "frame grip protection" below the tank and below the seat (black textured)? If so, who makes it? Thanks!
No, nothing there that I bought - just the stock panel I think!
@@averagebiker Thanks. Seemed to be more pronounced than on my GT (probably just my old eyes!). 👍
Can't disagree with any of that, though it seems I've been lucky with the paint.
Definitely not a mile-cruncher; sport-tourer, 70/30%
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Lleva medidor de presión de neumático la Suzuki?
No
Ninja 1000 SX. More comfortable geared better, adjustable windscreen and rear remote preload adjuster. Spicy with a full Akra system and a tune.
Agreed. SX not as powerful at the top end but tuned for where you need it in the mid-range. All-day smooth and comfortable and biased more to the "tourer" side of sport/tourer. Kawasaki better quality paint and components than the Suzuki, for very little extra money. Best seller in this bracket for a reason.
They are slightly different bikes. Sx more touring focused, GT more sport focused. Both great bikes.
I agree on the the Ninja SX, I test rode both and thought the SX was the better bike in lots of ways but bought the GT because of the deal I got at the time was better for me but in hindsight I wish I had got the SX.I like the GT a lot and my mate who has just bought a S1000XR BMW thinks my GT is superb in every way and he does lots of continental touring. When my three years pcp are up I shall definitely trade in for the Ninja SX though.
@@tonychettleburgh8953 I'm not a big touring guy but enjoy being able to carry luggage. I enjoy my sunday blasts and some commuting so the GT ticks the most boxes for me. On a very subjective level, i prefer the look of the GT over the SX. I'm not sure i would look back at the SX when walking away :D
@@benj5386my thoughts exactly! I had the choice between the Kawasaki SX and the Suzuki GT and the GT looked better to me, so I bought the GT.
I'm currently selling my GSX-S1000 GT for much the same reasons, although I also have issues with the wind protection that I never managed to fix on it no matter how many screens I tried. I'm thinking of "downgrading" to their new V-Strom 800 RE instead, which looks like it will fix the problems I've had and still have plenty of power on tap.
I've bought the DE - only picked it up yesterday but it's fantastic. Not very exciting but sooo relaxed and roomy.
@@averagebiker Congratulations on the new bike!
I was actually at the dealer today. Their RE was unfortunately not ready for test rides, but I could try the DE instead. Its a really comfortable machine, and I think it has plenty of torque on tap. It won't get screaming top-speeds like the GSX, but I cannot fault anything on its acceleration. That 800 engine is just a peach. ^^
Don't give up until you try a shorter Puig sport screen. It made all the difference in the world for my bike
RE800 is under £8k now, £1700 discount before the season even starts...says a lot about the current economic climate?
@@averagebikerHessler do a 1 piece flat seat for the V-Strom 800..one flaw with that bike
I considered this bike or the Ninja last year, I ended up with the Ducati Supersport 950S in the end, more money I know but I’m well happy, fast, comfortable and slightly smaller and lighter and it certainly raises my pulse when I open my garage door..
LOVE Ducatis!
I've wanted a bike for long distance after finding my 1100 twin naked a little bit of a bore for anything other than fun A and B roads. I was looking at this, test rode it but now moving towards the much more expensive MG's V100. I really don't want to spend £££ on an adventure bike and join the crowd of tiptoeing manufacture all-in-one wearing SUV equivalent riders - but what else is there for a 300 mile day?
That Mandello is beautiful though!
Get a FJR1300, brilliant tourer & comuter😁👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
wow those scratches on the tank wtf, that's just from normal use nothing scraped against it? my vfr has 15k miles and has a couple stone chips on the tank but no scratches anywhere and i only use muc off polish and hardly baby it
I've discovered the same marks on my MT-10 so it might be my biker jeans that's causing the problem.
The general consensus I hear is that this is good but unrefined, or at least not as refined as the Ninja SX its so often compared to. I sat on a Ninja SX today at my local dealer and it felt pretty darn good. I think the GSX looks better but only slightly and I want refinement if I'm buying a new $15k bike. Going to check out your other vids too.
Thank you for that review. I was considering this bike because on paper, as you mentioned, seemed like has everything. However, seat comfort is something that seems to be ignored by many reviews and I think that is fully off the mark. The seat, as in a car, is an important part of the suspension in the way that it gives comfort/support to the occupant/rider. I have gotten on many bikes and it is immediately obvious to me with i.e. XSR900 for example, that riding that for more than 30 mins, your ass will want an immediate divorce. Sure it will wheelie with a crack of the throttle, but if that is your purpose for owning a street bike, you won't have your license very long. In any case, I have nixed this from my list based on your review and I appreciate the heads up.
Damn, I nearly bought one on the basis of your first review🤣 I'm kind of looking at the R1250RS but have a Livewire One in Paris currently for free parking reasons. It's also fast and handles but has no protection. I'm looking for a sports bike for the city on which I can happily make weekend trips. I've owned many ICEs including a GS1250 and Tiger 900GT, plus pure sports bikes.
😅 close miss! Apart from wind protection and luggage, the MT-10 might be a good fit...
@@averagebiker the wind protection is the main aim 😂 the Mandello sounds like a blast. Or I can try to get a custom screen made for the Livewire. It's an incredible machine barring some electronic issues
First, I never considered this bike for any type of actual touring or "sport-touring" no matter how it is marketed. There are MUCH better bikes for that. I purchased it to be a ripping sport bike I can ride through the twisty roads on good-weather days and there it excels. The bike was great other than the HORRID rear shock (which was ok with the author) and terrible seat. I replaced both (K-tech shock and Sargent seat) and now it's close to perfect for me. I'm 5'7" and have no problem with the riding position.
I couldn't tell you about the lights because I never ride at night, ever, but I do want good high beams for daytime visibility. I will look into how they are adjusted soon.
I do not ride with panniers but the few times I mounted them, YES, the right one is an absolute pain in the butt to get off! They are also very cheap and flimsy IMO.
I installed Oxford heated grips for 1/3 the price of OEM. Why anyone would consider the OEM grips is beyond me as they are substandard at best. 4500 miles on and I still love the exhilaration this bike gives me. No problems with the paint at all. Speed, power and handling are off-the-charts good.
Nice video - what make is the little extension on the wind screen?
Cheep Amazon one - it was awful quality but it did work. I'd get a better one next time...
@@averagebiker Bezos special
@@5tevieb954best screens I’ve tested for touring are the German made MRA Vario touring "VTM" screens.
I tested loads of screens and adapters on my Africa Twin due to the wind buffeting and after spending close to £2,000 I finally settled on the MRA Vario touring screen.
I’ve got a MRA Vario touring screen fitted to my Suzuki GT too.
Nice review have been looking to get one to replace my africa twin..may look into tracer before making my mind up
I’ve heard the engine is a bit harsh compared to the Z1000SX discuss 😊
I tested the ZX - much more low down grunt but less exciting in my opinion!
@@averagebiker 140 BHP
I've ridden them back to back, mind you my GT is flash tuned which helped my low end a lot. The SX felt under powered after getting off of my bike to be honest which makes sense, seeing that it's down about 10 HP stock. The SX is still a nice bike in every sense of the word and is even geared better for out right touring with its larger engine keeping the revs lower at highway speeds. I come from sportbikes though so I prefer the sportier nature of the GT.
my last bike was a 2017 Yamaha MT10 SP and i loved that bike but 3 months ago i traded it in for a Kawasaki ZH2 supercharged and i wish i still had my MT10 SP back. the Kawasaki is brilliant but its not a patch on the MT10 i had for my riding style. will be selling it next year and going back to the yamaha. as for the tank scratches i always put Motografix tank protection on my bikes
Interesting - I thought about the zh2 but decided it's too heavy. Cool bike though.
Yea, somewhere along the way manufacturers forgot how to make a comfortable seat.
Yeah, and tv manufacturer's started using phone speakers for their tv's right around the time soundbars came out. It's all about the upsell.
Get yourself an adventure bike mate, I could ride forever on my Varadero.
Very good review. Thanks.
Would the Yamaha fjr1300 be worth 4k more than this bike? Would you guys get that?
Bit too big and heavy for me I think
@@averagebiker you would get used to the weight🤔, was on tour with mine @ Easter bank holiday, in the Lake District. We done the Hardnott Pass, fully loaded (both ways), no problems atall😁🇬🇧🇬🇧
How tall are you?
6' 1"
I’ve ruled this bike out purely due to the stupidly small light!! LIGHTS are there to help you be seen, and these are TINY!! So it’s nope from me!
Everyone entitled to an opinion I guess. I don’t have any gripes with my GT. I didn’t buy luggage for mine as I won’t use for touring and wanted to save some cash. Comfort wise…. I’ve ridden far worse. The things I thought you were going to flag up weren’t here so all good.
Comfort is specific to ones body structure, what is comfortable for one, may not be for another.
Good information , Thanks .
Everything you listed as a negative is a positive for me I cannot abide naked bikes they are objectively less bike for the same money in my opinion and I love a 4 and high revving. The part about the paint and bag issues I just can't believe those are warranty issues you could have taken the bike back for
I had a gsxs1000GT I agree the seat is uncomfortable after about 3-4 hrs on it. I sold mine after 18 months, I bought the Kawasaki z1000SX more comfortable seat and better handling , and better brakes.
Hi have a 2024 model. Lovely looking machine but… totally agree with you. 2 hour ride and real coccyx discomfort. Well, a real pain in the butt. Fine for short runs but as a sports tourer, sorry, but no, px on the cards. Only my opinion and not prepared to splash out loads of cash on a ‘comfort seat’. Looking at the Ninja thousand performance tourer
Was it your first sports tourer? I know it is too late now and far from me teaching anyone their business, but your complaints about the long riding are common when coming from other styles. Sidebags sell because they are practical, but worthless on a SpTourer, all you need is a tank bag tall enough to lean/hug on it and but still read the dash (instant relief on shoulders/wrists), and maybe a backpack on the passenger seat. The weight must be at the front, going against the geometry of a SpTourer is a losing fight, no matter how much money you spend, and the dealer won't tell you that because they want to sell you shit.
Kind of - I had a SuperDuke GT before that was more comfortable. The Gixxus GT is based on a super naked so I thought it might be similar to the SDGT, but it's less comfy. And yeah, trying to make the bike something it wasn't supposed to be didn't work! Selling was the right option for me - love my V-Strom now 🙂
helpful video, thanks
Suzuki also made a strange gearing choice for this bike. 5,000 RPM at 70 MPH is very busy for a tourer. Even my old reliable SV thou is doing 80 at those revs.
Yeah I agree on that ,it is a bit busy at 70mph. My ZX9R is about 4,500 at 70 and feels much better for it.
Agreed, although I thought it coincides with 6,000 rpm.
Whatever the speed/rpm at 70mph I get vibrations through the handlebars which numb my fingers after long stints on motorways when I’m touring across the continent. I tried fitting grip puppies but these didn’t seem to help much.
I’ve noted the new GX has a rubber gasket between the handlebar clamp and top of the triple clamp, so I’m wondering if Suzuki would retrofit such a gasket to the GT?
@@Paulie44 It's odd that this came about. I don't recall any complaints about vibrations when the K5/6 engine was in its original guise as a sports bike. In 1983 I bought a new Yamaha XJ900F which was terrible at above 80MPH but was attended to b Yamaha the year following. The rubber gasket you spoke of also reminded me of a 1975 Suzuki T500 two stroke twin I had back then, which had so much rubber below the bar clamps that it felt as though Spongebob had designed it.
@@michaelarchangel1163I’ve had earlier versions such as the 2001 K1 and then a later 2015 GSXR 1000 and neither suffered vibrations in the handlebars and I could ride for hours.
I’m keen to test the new GX and see how that runs on motorways because on my continental tours we cover a lot of miles on motorways to get to our riding destination, and then spend a week in the mountain twisties wherever we are.
Strangely enough, now that my GT has just over 1000 miles on her I was on the M25 this morning doing exactly 70mph and the revs are bout 4,800 so I guess that it is loosening up. That was on the flat with a slight headwind and no tingles or vibrations anywhere, really smooth and comfortable.
100% the seat sucks after 30 mins my butt is starting to hurt . i have an air seat pad and it helps a lot . i love its power its quick for sure
I have to agree, I have owned mine for one year 6,400 miles and now it is for sale. This bike is a great sport bike with baggage. If you want to go fast and take your lunch, water, stuff etc. it is great. If you are carving canyons, moving around and going at a fast pace it is so much fun. But I cannot ride it for more than an hour. Somehow Suzuki made a touring bike that has an awful seat and a cramped peg position. I wanted a touring bike with some sportiness. I got a heavy sport bike that is super uncomfortable. I did put a Suzuki comfort seat, and it was a bit better but still my Aprilia 660 had a far better seat. The bike is super reliable, and I have had no mechanical issues. But boy is it uncomfortable.
@@mikeglick3507 I don’t agree with the comfort comment. We all fit differently. I’m 6’1. And It’s not uncomfortable for me. The windshields that are available cause me to have some buffeting. But otherwise I have no other complaints. It’s a grand touring bike. Not a touring bike. Once that is realized it’ll make sense.
You need a Honda Pan European or an FJR. You can get them at bargain prices now. Solid machines.
I have had one for 2 years. Over 10000 miles and I think its a great bike. Any bike will have pros and cons. One thing is for sure. Its not green or an SX.
see you are making sense , this guy crying about little things.
What a shame, we really need more choice in the Sports Tourer end of the market (as opposed to Adventure bikes masquerading as Sports Tourers. I can't believe they've launched a bike in 2024 with poor headlights. It just shouts form over function. These days given the technology available they should be lighting up the street.
Wow, if that is your reasoning, best of buying a bike for you. I have one and absolutely love it.
Just by a 🚗 you will be comfortable. It is a SPORT touring motorcycle. Ride a r1 then the gt and maybe t you will see the differences.😂 I have a r1 and i can drive that with passenger 1 hour and 20 min. But as you say that is your opinion.
So I guess you’ve never ridden a sports bike before.😂 because it’s not an adventure bike whatsoever.