It's not about how productive or hard working you are it's about controlling all aspects of your life. And if you decide to not be part of the system all kinds of punishment. It's a game.
You're right about big bro. It's more than working from home, they want you location dependent. I left the US 5 years ago and moved to Asia. It's easier to see that basically everything most people know as truth is propaganda while observing it from afar. I already knew most of it and I was still surprised how messed up we are from what is normal human behavior in countries that are less controlled. Especially with male/female relationships. I asked my first date, "Where do you want to go to eat?" and she screamed at me, "THAT'S FOR THE MAN TO DECIDE!"
People who goof off will do so whether they're at home or in-office. The difference is, in-office goof-offs walk around and disrupt other people's productivity too.
For restaurants I believe it, if they relied on a lunchtime crowd of business people and weren't smart enough to adapt to use delivery services. But at the same time, things change, tractors put a lot of horses out of work, computers put phone operators out of work, who's problem is that? 🤷
@@GurtGobain I’m sure over priced rent and increased costs of goods and services had nothing to do with it, any opportunity for the government to deflect responsibility they will use!
Employers have access to significant meta data from employee apps that lets them micro manage whether they’re in a cube or sitting on a foreign country beach sun tanning.
I think I have a prety good perspective on this topic as someone who typically gets to work from home 1-2 days a week on average - I administrate industry specific systems and man a service desk, my job is not front facing and can be performed ENTIRELY from home. If this was the case, I would get to save £3.50 every day on travel + £5 I spend on lunch and most importantly, I would get a guaranteed lie in every morning instead of having to get up 3 hours before work. I cannot stress enough how much weight is lifted off my shoulders every Wednesday morning, knowing I dont need to partake in the crazed morning rush hour, having to jam myself into a packed bus like a sardine. The recovery I get from the mid week WFH day is inexplicable, it is a godsend.
It's all about commercial property values and don't forget the city baristas. We're still resisting here in Melbourne and remote work is sought after. The worst is when the Principal WFH on a full time basis and forces employees back into the office - professional services are the worst for this.
Working from home is not only Extremely good for people, it is extremely good for the local businesses which benefitted. For once we were spending money n our town's amenities like local food places, coffee shops etc throughout the week!
I agree with you that there are so many good reasons as to why we should do remote work. 100% agree with your logic. However, maybe you should try to research and follow the money as to why they want people to come back now. It's not only about the trust but it is also about the revenue that they are losing from all those commercial buildings. You need to think about who will loose money the most if most people do remote work and you will know why now remote work is not good enough anymore. It is all about the money.
Oh I know, I worked in ana office building before the pandemic, they are happy to be utilizing that expensive rental suite to it's full extent again lol.
I think most office jobs don't have meaningful metrics for work output. Being in person is the best (still lousy) proxy the employer has for work. It cuts both ways though, many office drones goof off more than half of the time.
@@IRLWojak because we were forced to stay at home. That and i didnt get a vaccination, so i wanted to call bluff on my employer when they threatened those without a vaccination.
Working from home basically has two groups of workers. Professionals who are paid decent to high wages and others whose pay is low to very low. Telus International is basically the biggest international employer for the low to very low wages. This company is the subsidiary of Telus. Most of the work is related to search results and AI ghost work from Apple and Google. I do the latter. While I like the pros of the “job” it’s not good long term and sticks most people in a rut. Also I have dealt with remote HR workers trying to get a decent job. To be honest the impression I got from them is it’s makes them slack. Had one who didn’t turn on there camera and sounded like he just woke up, this guy was definitely highly paid. I also had a women who wasn’t prepared and quickly removed clothing that was hanging about. The reality is working from home in many cases makes you slack, you can also be easily distracted by things in your home. There is plenty of other examples out there of people who think they can do whatever, much of its related to having the camera off. With big corporations the need to be looking over ones shoulder seems to be a need. But there is also the owners interests in expensive corporate real estate.
"... it can probably be done in Bangladesh for $3/hr" - Or India, the Philippines, or wherever. Isn't that a fair opportunity for everyone on the planet? I look at it that way.
@@mikebaichoo576 I was working in the call centre in Hamilton, Ontario. I started Sept 2019. I got let go in the summer of 2021 while at home 🏡 - this is why watching the older videos is helpful.
The vast majority of jobs are not a one man show, but rather it’s a collective effort to provide a product or service to the customers. This means collaboration is key, and there is no way collaboration is equal when you work from home versus being in the office. It makes 100% sense to sit and talk with each other in work, and no it’s not the same over digital means of communication. I do not allow my employees to work from home. Not because I don’t trust them, but because we are in a hyper competitive environment, and if we can squeeze out 5-10% more productivity with office work, then that’s what we will do. Of course if someone some time need to WFH due to some doctors appointments or similar, I will grant that. Aslo: if your job can be done 100% remote, then you can bet your Ass the job will be outsourced to low wage country. Lastly: I would not recommend anyone working from home. Social skill is a muscle that needs to be maintained. To be a WFH shut in is the last thing I would recommend
Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge on this topic. Nothing you say ever surprises me. You must be the most uptight person in Sweden, 😂, 🤗 , but that’s not to say that I don’t appreciate your comments and opposing views. We can all learn from each other, at least I think we can. I would like to add that all industry claims to be in a hyper competitive market, this is nothing new. Literally every company. In every industry in every country on our planet.
@@Nodlak123 making travel and commute by car en masse to city centres to work causes gridlock and has helped lead us to the climate problems we are experiencing right now. Working from home solves larger global problems. You’re response was almost completely rooted in your own tiny world and experience. It didn’t take anything else into account.
@@IRLWojak what you are saying just does not make sense. If truly the companies would be more efficient with WFH, that would be the absolute norm. It isn’t though. No one cares about you, much less cares about controlling you. It’s all about profit in the end, and it’s is evident that WFH was a fiasco for majority of companies.
@@IRLWojak this is an off topic discussion, but shortly about that. Privat vehicles account for less than 5% of the global CO2 emissions. You would have to bring up solid evidence that WFH somehow affects the climate, otherwise it’s total nonsense. However the other argument may be valid regarding traffic. This probably differs between different regions.
@@Nodlak123 likely it does vary by region. I don’t think any of this is off topic. The topic is about working from and I did mention climate age in the initial video. Everything is tied to together, nothing is ever said for no reason.
Productivity numbers tanked people working for more then one company from home and destroying businesses. Where I work we had people working from home and they destroyed our centers. We the administrative staff had to go into those centers and fix them because of lazy work from home employees. Our president from that point on emailed every employee saying to come into the office or get fired.
It was about 50% in our case. I think there’s a bigger chance to learn here. It shows you what employees actually care about the job and who looks like they care because they can get up and commute and look good and glad hand but can’t log in on time from home, a common occurrence during the pandemic from what I understand.
I live in Bangladesh, which is a third world country. I come from a middle-class family, but due to the circumstances here we were thinking about moving to Canada, would that be advisable? Would I just become a wage-cuck if I moved to Canada? Would my quality-of-life reduce? I mean the pollution here in Bangladesh is absolutely wretched... And I just watched that other video you put out, where you talked about working 16 hour shifts for years and still not having a house to your name, I honestly think migrating to the west for better opportunities is actually... A bad idea? I don't know, what do you think? I'm 20 years old for context.
Moving to west honestly rich people will just see you as a slave that needs to put in 60 hours a week at their window washing business. That's Canada in a nutshell.
It's not about how productive or hard working you are it's about controlling all aspects of your life. And if you decide to not be part of the system all kinds of punishment. It's a game.
And I’m being punished for not wanting to be part of the system, I’ve been keenly aware of this for a long time - too long to be sane.
You're right about big bro. It's more than working from home, they want you location dependent.
I left the US 5 years ago and moved to Asia. It's easier to see that basically everything most people know as truth is propaganda while observing it from afar.
I already knew most of it and I was still surprised how messed up we are from what is normal human behavior in countries that are less controlled.
Especially with male/female relationships. I asked my first date, "Where do you want to go to eat?" and she screamed at me, "THAT'S FOR THE MAN TO DECIDE!"
@@DoomhauerBTC 😝, that last line is priceless.
People who goof off will do so whether they're at home or in-office. The difference is, in-office goof-offs walk around and disrupt other people's productivity too.
Thank you for this excellent comment.
In Ottawa they were trying to say that businesses downtown were closing because people were working from home 4:47
😝💯🤡
For restaurants I believe it, if they relied on a lunchtime crowd of business people and weren't smart enough to adapt to use delivery services. But at the same time, things change, tractors put a lot of horses out of work, computers put phone operators out of work, who's problem is that? 🤷
@@GurtGobain I’m sure over priced rent and increased costs of goods and services had nothing to do with it, any opportunity for the government to deflect responsibility they will use!
@@GurtGobain true…
They were using that as a reason south of the boarder too. It just one of the main reasons why businesses were stopping remote work.
Employers have access to significant meta data from employee apps that lets them micro manage whether they’re in a cube or sitting on a foreign country beach sun tanning.
Science.
I think I have a prety good perspective on this topic as someone who typically gets to work from home 1-2 days a week on average - I administrate industry specific systems and man a service desk, my job is not front facing and can be performed ENTIRELY from home. If this was the case, I would get to save £3.50 every day on travel + £5 I spend on lunch and most importantly, I would get a guaranteed lie in every morning instead of having to get up 3 hours before work. I cannot stress enough how much weight is lifted off my shoulders every Wednesday morning, knowing I dont need to partake in the crazed morning rush hour, having to jam myself into a packed bus like a sardine. The recovery I get from the mid week WFH day is inexplicable, it is a godsend.
This.
It's all about commercial property values and don't forget the city baristas. We're still resisting here in Melbourne and remote work is sought after. The worst is when the Principal WFH on a full time basis and forces employees back into the office - professional services are the worst for this.
Facts.
That’s too much freedom to give.
@@Someoneoutthere__ I can back this.
Working from home is not only Extremely good for people, it is extremely good for the local businesses which benefitted. For once we were spending money n our town's amenities like local food places, coffee shops etc throughout the week!
@@JPCommenting excellent point!
I agree with you that there are so many good reasons as to why we should do remote work. 100% agree with your logic. However, maybe you should try to research and follow the money as to why they want people to come back now. It's not only about the trust but it is also about the revenue that they are losing from all those commercial buildings. You need to think about who will loose money the most if most people do remote work and you will know why now remote work is not good enough anymore. It is all about the money.
Oh I know, I worked in ana office building before the pandemic, they are happy to be utilizing that expensive rental suite to it's full extent again lol.
I think most office jobs don't have meaningful metrics for work output. Being in person is the best (still lousy) proxy the employer has for work. It cuts both ways though, many office drones goof off more than half of the time.
Very good point ls, thank you!
@@IRLWojak How does that tired joke go? I pretend to work, they pretend to pay me.
I work in the tech sector and i do wfh 4-5 days a week. During the lock downs i hated wfh and refused to do it.
@@SquarishLink why’d you hate it?
@@IRLWojak As an introvert is great.
@@Router994 exactly! 👍
@@IRLWojak because we were forced to stay at home. That and i didnt get a vaccination, so i wanted to call bluff on my employer when they threatened those without a vaccination.
Working from home basically has two groups of workers. Professionals who are paid decent to high wages and others whose pay is low to very low. Telus International is basically the biggest international employer for the low to very low wages. This company is the subsidiary of Telus. Most of the work is related to search results and AI ghost work from Apple and Google. I do the latter. While I like the pros of the “job” it’s not good long term and sticks most people in a rut. Also I have dealt with remote HR workers trying to get a decent job. To be honest the impression I got from them is it’s makes them slack. Had one who didn’t turn on there camera and sounded like he just woke up, this guy was definitely highly paid. I also had a women who wasn’t prepared and quickly removed clothing that was hanging about. The reality is working from home in many cases makes you slack, you can also be easily distracted by things in your home. There is plenty of other examples out there of people who think they can do whatever, much of its related to having the camera off. With big corporations the need to be looking over ones shoulder seems to be a need. But there is also the owners interests in expensive corporate real estate.
Fairly true.
HR departments dont want to have to deal with different state and international tax laws, rules, policy ect.
Laziness…
I wfh 3 days a week. The office is a terrible environment. You are spot on again Wojack.
Spot on, really?
If your job can be done from your living room it can probably be done in Bangladesh for $3/hr.
@@JB-kx9bx most jobs can be done from your bedroom and Bangladeshi, I think maybe you give the West too much unwarranted credit.
"... it can probably be done in Bangladesh for $3/hr" - Or India, the Philippines, or wherever.
Isn't that a fair opportunity for everyone on the planet? I look at it that way.
So ... basically what you're saying is that when Toronto is gone , the world will be better off ?
No, I’m saying making people commute when they have the technology to work from home is almost cruel and unusual punishment.
is da jwz
😂
@@IRLWojak da jwz da jwz da jwz
What wfh job did you have during the pandemic?
@@mikebaichoo576 I was working in the call centre in Hamilton, Ontario. I started Sept 2019. I got let go in the summer of 2021 while at home 🏡 - this is why watching the older videos is helpful.
The vast majority of jobs are not a one man show, but rather it’s a collective effort to provide a product or service to the customers. This means collaboration is key, and there is no way collaboration is equal when you work from home versus being in the office. It makes 100% sense to sit and talk with each other in work, and no it’s not the same over digital means of communication.
I do not allow my employees to work from home. Not because I don’t trust them, but because we are in a hyper competitive environment, and if we can squeeze out 5-10% more productivity with office work, then that’s what we will do. Of course if someone some time need to WFH due to some doctors appointments or similar, I will grant that.
Aslo: if your job can be done 100% remote, then you can bet your Ass the job will be outsourced to low wage country.
Lastly: I would not recommend anyone working from home. Social skill is a muscle that needs to be maintained. To be a WFH shut in is the last thing I would recommend
Thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge on this topic. Nothing you say ever surprises me. You must be the most uptight person in Sweden, 😂, 🤗 , but that’s not to say that I don’t appreciate your comments and opposing views. We can all learn from each other, at least I think we can.
I would like to add that all industry claims to be in a hyper competitive market, this is nothing new. Literally every company. In every industry in every country on our planet.
@@Nodlak123 making travel and commute by car en masse to city centres to work causes gridlock and has helped lead us to the climate problems we are experiencing right now. Working from home solves larger global problems. You’re response was almost completely rooted in your own tiny world and experience. It didn’t take anything else into account.
@@IRLWojak what you are saying just does not make sense. If truly the companies would be more efficient with WFH, that would be the absolute norm. It isn’t though. No one cares about you, much less cares about controlling you. It’s all about profit in the end, and it’s is evident that WFH was a fiasco for majority of companies.
@@IRLWojak this is an off topic discussion, but shortly about that. Privat vehicles account for less than 5% of the global CO2 emissions. You would have to bring up solid evidence that WFH somehow affects the climate, otherwise it’s total nonsense.
However the other argument may be valid regarding traffic. This probably differs between different regions.
@@Nodlak123 likely it does vary by region. I don’t think any of this is off topic. The topic is about working from and I did mention climate age in the initial video. Everything is tied to together, nothing is ever said for no reason.
Productivity numbers tanked people working for more then one company from home and destroying businesses. Where I work we had people working from home and they destroyed our centers. We the administrative staff had to go into those centers and fix them because of lazy work from home employees. Our president from that point on emailed every employee saying to come into the office or get fired.
It was about 50% in our case. I think there’s a bigger chance to learn here. It shows you what employees actually care about the job and who looks like they care because they can get up and commute and look good and glad hand but can’t log in on time from home, a common occurrence during the pandemic from what I understand.
@@IRLWojak issue is that corporations put faith in people but most of the time people will disappoint
I live in Bangladesh, which is a third world country. I come from a middle-class family, but due to the circumstances here we were thinking about moving to Canada, would that be advisable? Would I just become a wage-cuck if I moved to Canada? Would my quality-of-life reduce? I mean the pollution here in Bangladesh is absolutely wretched... And I just watched that other video you put out, where you talked about working 16 hour shifts for years and still not having a house to your name, I honestly think migrating to the west for better opportunities is actually... A bad idea? I don't know, what do you think? I'm 20 years old for context.
@@shafaet1194 don’t come here unless you want to be a slave for more established people and families.
Moving to west honestly rich people will just see you as a slave that needs to put in 60 hours a week at their window washing business. That's Canada in a nutshell.
@@IRLWojak nailed it. even if your born here your just slave for someone who lives in a rich area of town.
@@roberto125919 Western “Freedom”
@@roberto125919 you’re only wanted as hard labor here 90% of the time.
>global warming
lol
this is what the news tells me...lol
@@IRLWojak carry on then boss 👍