I feel like Ross really just got lucky. He was so convinced about multiple faithful being traitors earlier in the game , but managed to not get suspicion on him because he was charismatic. I really feel like he should have said no to being turned as well. He could have convinced Zack and made a play for the faithful!
Too trusting and gullible. When both she and Harry voted to end the game but Jaz wanted to banish again, she should have realized Harry had to be a Traitor. If Jaz was a Traitor and knew Harry and Mollie were Faithfuls, he would have wanted to end the game.
The way Jasmine and Evie spoke had me agreeing with them, and then remembering that they're actually faithful and their points were actually invalid against each other. Both INCREDIBLY articulate, and Jasmine smashed it in some tables!
@myenragedrants being convincing doesn't matter if you're wrong tho. She accused Brian, Anthony, Johnny, Evie, Zac and Charlotte whilst defending Andrew, Ross, Harry and Paul. She could not have been more wrong
The fact Brian crumbled when he found out the others thought he was a sheep just proves he wasn’t mentally strong enough to be any kind of a decent player!
I think Miles would have gone VERY far if he wasn’t thrown under the bus by Paul. Ross was defo a poor player. Other than being half decent at tasks? Mollie 100% got lucky because if she wasn’t close with Harry she would have been killed early. The same for Charlotte, except Charlotte clued onto her friend, whereas Mollie never did. Think Andrew got lucky too - don’t think he had a game plan whatsoever and seemed to blunder through a bit but seems a lovely guy
He's just so iconic and he cast doubt on Andrew as well - Paul just got very lucky that people weren't putting two and two together after the dungeon...
@myenragedrants that's because people thought there was only one traitor in the dungeon and their were bigger names being thrown around during that time
Charlotte revealed on Uncloaked she figured Paul out after Meg's murder & her game plan was to bring him to the end game. She also said she had to change her game plan when Paul became too suspicious. Of course it is up to everyone if they believe her or not.
My Tier List(My Tier List is based on gameplay and is in no particular order) S Tier Harry(Winner) Jaz(Banished) Miles(Banished) Mollie(Runner-Up) Diane(Murdered) Ross(Banished) Andrew(Banished) A Tier Jasmine(Banished) Evie(Banished) Paul(Banished) Zack(Murdered) B Tier Charlotte(Banished) Charlie(Murdered) Kyra(Murdered) Jonny(Banished) Anthony(Banished) Tracey(Murdered) Meg(Murdered) C Tier Sonia(Banished) Aubrey(Murdered) D Tier Brian(Banished) Ash(Banished)
Finally some Evie love! But I can't agree with your Ross placing. He gunned for 2 faithfuls and also fully defended Paul. I would also have Mollie in strong game.
@@myenragedrants Yeah if this was just a general tier list I would have Ross pretty high up. But whilst the stuff you've listed is impressive, I don't think it weighs up against the gameplay mistakes he made. Great video btw. Nice to see some in depth traitors content.
Jaz got lucky imo, because he talks about how he had this master plan as a faithful. But in reality he really didn't do much, he didn't make any moves, he saved his one piece of evidence till far too late and essentially floated to the end game. Loved Jaz but he flew completely under the radar.
He absolutely did leave it to the last minute because that's when he thought he could lay his cards on the table without fear of repercussion by a larger group - It made sense to me but it was frustrating ahaha!
@@myenragedrants You see I think he didn't do him self a favour, as if he pinned the heat on Harry and voted for him every day he would have been hailed a hero and it would have played a lot differently. He might not have made it to the final but he might have got Harry out and a faithful might have won. I dunno, for me his path was more luck based that it was skill, but that's just me.
@@joebloggs2534Jaz made an excellent play this season, if you have a strong suspicion on someone who’s a Traitor, it’s better to keep them in the game until the finale instead of banishing them early, as it helps you build your evidence on them so you can lay it all down into the final round table. If you were to banish Harry in episode 9 or 10, then the faithfuls would be in a disadvantage as the remaining traitors would recruit another faithful then you would have to start off from scratch and build your evidence again in a limited amount of episodes…
@@myenragedrants well enjoy US 2. No spoilers but I hope you like celebrities 😆 I’m watching AUS 2 and the faithfuls are TRASH! It’s hard to watch lol UK 2 and AUS 1 are at the top imo
I'm gonna say that jazz was my fave player because he suspected Harry for almost the whole game but when mollie voted for him I'm gonna say harry was my fave
I actually haven't seen any international versions! If there's an interest in doing some reviews on international versions, I can see what I can do ahaha!
Controversial opinion: I don’t think Jaz played that well. He sussed but didn’t lead the charge to get any traitors out. I think he kept theories too close to his chest and it ultimately meant Mollie had no basis to know his theories held weight in the final three.
Then he would’ve been banished out early when he was confronting Paul during one of the round tables literally everyone was gunning for him at one point. You need to keep your theories close if you want to make it far as a faithful and lay all your evidence during the final round table. Ultimately, Mollie didn’t even acknowledge why she has stayed in the game for so long, if she had notice that Harry was keeping her on the game like how Charlotte suspected Paul, the faithfuls would’ve won.
@@samuelnicholson7905 oh yes if you want to have a massive target on your back you will be an easy target for murder like Zack for instance. But, there’s almost £120,000 at stake and you don’t want to lower your chances on getting it!
Yeah, it’s an incredibly fine balance. You have to have allies or you end up isolated like Jaz did at the end, but if you’re too vocal or befriend the wrong people, you can get targeted. I don’t think he helped his case by stating Miles was a faithful when that was the most concrete evidence they had all series.
@@summers2959 but in my opinion wouldn’t that cement you as a faithful though? Because faithfuls who stood up to Traitors such as Zack defending Ash and Jaz not thinking that Miles was Traitor have no clue who the Traitors actually were. So, no Traitor would shoot them selves in the foot like that so instead they would obviously throw them under the bus and vote them out.
Miles and Andrew were not playing a winning game, they were playing a follower game (hoping to win with another traitor). Their social credit didn't extend farther than "nice bloke". This is evident when Miles was found out after the Diane poisoning, NO ONE went to bat for Miles. Andrew made it far based on his lie about knowing about the shield, but Jaz could have used Evie + Andrew to vote Harry at the final 5 as Jaz should have known Mollie is Never voting Harry. This hurts their gameplay imho as they never had win equity, whereas Mollie DID. She formed bonds with many players to the point her name never got written down. The only reason people say Mollie played a weak game is she changed Harry to Jaz in the final second, which she felt Harry was the traitor, but couldn't do it to him. Why would Jaz, a traitor, toss Red there? She clearly thought Harry COULD be a traitor, or we are all 3 faithful, and she thought 3 faithful more or just liked Harry more than Jaz. Everyone else is fairly ranked.
Andrew kinda had no hope to win after the whole ross thing, because mollie wasn't gonna let the lying thing slip away, he could've won at the final but harry decided to get mollie to go for andrew instead of jaz which was unreasonable af imo. Andrew was also trying hard to get jaz on his side so that he would trust him because he knew he would be a threat if he got suspicious of him again, another thing is that he never trusted any of the traitors and he always suspected Paul or harry would backstab him
Also jaz should've sided with Andrew over harry in the final four because he should've realised Andrew was jaz's only hope to get harry out as mollie wouldn't vote him
@@MrNormal321 I don't know the tiebreaker rule for final 4 of The Traitors. I think it is a random draw of the NON-Tied players on who goes out. Which is similar to rock draw in Survivor.
I’ve watched every traitors series and the British series (this one especially) were my favourite. I feel the Us and Aussie ones make it to “reality” and dramatised rather than the game show itself
I completely agree. The British one is so incredible that you could tell me it's scripted and I'd be like "Give these people all the awards because they're the best actors ever..."
I disagree with you on Paul. I think he was inevitably going to be caught because he played SO in everyone's face, they were always going to start questioning 'Why are you still here'? Even if he hadn't gone hard on everyone, he was stuck with being at the front of the group.
I'm just going to explain the ones I don't agree with you on. Brian was just offended for being called a sheep which I kinda don't blame him for so I guess he is not enough time. I think Jonny was a strong game because he actually got along and really showed his own opinions and well he was one of my favorite. I don't remember Tracey/Tracy. I don't really know what to say about Anthony. I think Diane didn't really have enough time to show she really knew but I would put her in poor player. I think Miles did pretty well but the poison thing ruined it all. I mean Paul threw everyone under the bus which for me was just betrayal but he did do pretty well. Charlie didn't really get enough time to start banishing people and suspecting so I think she needed more time. Charlotte didn't have somebody to suspect that wasn't her friend so she also didn't have enough time. Ross did pretty well. I think Zack was a strong player for proving nobody would want him for a traitor because he says the most random things at the most random things but also a poor player in a way. I think Evie got lucky. Andrew played a strong game. Jaz was way more than legendary and the faithful really needed him but also messed up not listening to what he had to say. For me I think Mollie just got lucky and because Harry was friends with her she wasn't going to be murdered. harry was my favorite and played a really good game of being a traitor so he is legendaryyyy!!!!!!!!
Can't disagree enough with you on Brian. If anything, Brian crumbing and struggling with the Sheep Tag, essentially proved he was a Faithful, the Traitors have even commented they got lucky, as there was no reason why anyone should have voted Brian. Other people crumbled and nothing happened as a result, so why is this different with Brian. Additionally, as much as people might mock or insinuate that Brian was a bad player, he was pretty spot on with who the Traitors were. Anyone who has played and is competent at Social Deduction Games knows, you don't always have to last in the game the longest to do well or be one of the better players.
I mean... the slightest bit of pressure was put on him (which realistically he put on himself right at the end) and he was booted out. I hate to say it, but he didn't do anything but screw himself over in that moment. But I appreciate that others may interpret it differently
@@myenragedrants I totally understand that prospective, but it feels a little 1 Dimensional. When you think about it longer, yes - whilst the meltdown wasn't great, a "Traitor" would not do that, there is no benefit to them doing that. Additionally, being a Traitor is significantly easier than being a Faithful, as you have much more info as a Traitor. If there were special Traitor/Faithful roles, it would be different, but currently the show is very vanilla and simple in its theme & similarity to Town of Salem, Werewolf's & Mafia - yet those games have way more detail and possible role combinations and potential hiccups to consider in your game play. I'm not saying Brian's meltdown should clear him completely of suspicion, but the herd mentality displayed by everyone else to have a willingness for the majority of them to flip there vote in a moments notice, proves that he wasn't the "biggest sheep" 🐑 if that makes sense. Logically, when someone like Brian is voted off - the first point to review after his banishment, should have been; Whoever originally applied pressure to him & whoever he voted. If both happen to be the same person, you likely have a good lead - Paul turned out to be a traitor, and the faithfuls were far to oblivious to his smug nature. It's just like how Diane in Ep 1 noticed Zack's fidgeting, but mistook it for being Harry, whilst that was a potential clue or consideration for Diane, she never ones expanded upon it after that day. So people are seemingly quick to drop their own opinions.
@@AnimePigeon The one who first applied pressure to Brian was Brian self he wanted to come forward to convince everyone he wasn't the Biggest Sheep and started putting shade on himself he basically begged people to vote him out.
Ross and jasmine were terrible players. I'd put them in got lucky. Jasmine was so confidently wrong at every round table and ross fumbled his revenge plan massively
Im sorry but how on earth can you put diane in legendary. She constantly accused wrong people like she said it was anthony because of that stupid line thing that happened before the traitors was even picked, she was so rude to him
I mean, Diane correctly called out Ash and Miles, so I think that makes up for the fact that she accused Anthony - I will say that it's really easy to say people are stupid for accusing someone wrongly, but that's because we know who the traitors are!
@myenragedrants I agree it's not easy to find the traitors, especially at the start when they have nothing to go on. But it's the reason why she accused Anthony which makes it for me. Was absolutely absurd
Did Ash put herself in the dungeon or was she coerced into the dungeon a bit by Paul & Harry? I might have to go back & look at that turret scene again. Anyway, she played a poor traitor & so had to go.
@@myenragedrants no you're probably right buddy. I'm just finding a reason to watch the whole series again, one that'll keep my partner happy😂 Cheers for your reply👍
@@myenragedrants actually having just looked back at it, it was Miles, in fact, who intially coerced Ash to put herself in the dungeon, not Harry or Paul. I was wrong, apologies
tbh even if you get out a traitor, it depends on what type of traitor they are. if you manage to suss out a major traitor like paul or harry, that makes u better than someone who got out scapegoat traitors like ross, andrew, miles and ash tbh.
@myenragedrants ross and Andrew were literal opposites. Andrew was originally a scapegoat and was gonna get banished next but he survived till the end. Ross was someone to help get to the end with and win but he got banished next
Actually Diane did not play well. The aim of the game is to survive and win. Not just nominate the traitors. She scared them and as a result they got her eliminated.
To an extent, I agree, but then if you're just surviving, are you really good at playing the game? or have you just gotten lucky - At least Diane was trying to work out who the traitors were and, on a few instances, shot and hit correctly
@@scipioafricanus5871 It's an interesting conundrum. Because I feel like there are some cases where surviving to the end as a faithful is because you've played a great social game. But then there are times when people are just very lucky...
Best season, internationally, EVER. If you haven't seen it, WATCH THIS ONE!!!! Loved it and it is HUGE in the UK! I mean, MASSIVE. I haven't seen your ranking yet, but if Dianne and Harry aren't LEGENDARY I have no idea what I will do 🤣😂
Well if I was Miles I would be making everyone’s drink and I would ask someone like Evie/ Charlotte or Mollie to hand out the drinks, like pass this fizzy Rośe to Diane please 😊
I mean, realistically, Diane shouldn't have been alive in the morning. That should have been made clear to the traitors cause whilst it was a great twist, it did destroy Miles' game for shock value ig.
To say Ross played a strong game is to say your channel features enraged rants - both equally preposterous notions. Your argument that he helped the faithful more when he wasn't a faithful would work if it wasn't for the fact that faithfuls and traitors are not on the same team. But aside from that hiccup, nice list.
Thanks aha! I do agree, enraged rants aren't always part of every episode, but they do crop up everytime someone pisses me off on a show! As for Ross, he played a good game to an extent, I just didn't feel right putting him any lower because he was such an important part in getting Andrew out of the game ig
I nearly stopped watching after episode 6 and even though watching Diane walk to her death on episode 7 made me feel physically ill and I am happy I continued even if I didn’t care much for anyone else after Diane left Harry played well though so it was enough to keep me watching not as good as the first UK season but there’s worse seasons of traitors to watch
Hmmm I disagree with this list. I think you’re giving Jaz, Ross and Harry way too much credit. Jaz had good deductive abilities but failed in taking action with other people to get out Harry - he should have read Molly’s crush for Harry for what it was and understood that the final 5 vote was the appropriate time to weaponise Andrew’s suspicions and Evie’s desperation to get Harry out without Molly’s input. Jaz should’ve known he had lost if he went to F3 with Harry and Molly. Jaz could have convinced Molly to vote out andrew and then vote out Evie, to ensure two innocents remain at the end. in other words, his strategy was backwards. Harry was an okay traitor - I would say he should go in the got lucky category because there were only poor faithfuls left at the end such that 2 traitors were in the final (wild) and those people were gullible enough to support Harry. Harry’s double bluff wasn’t actually that impressive, and I was seething when people just assumed it to be true. The faithful were so bad at the game (it’s making me angry now just reliving it lol). Ross also misplayed as a traitor as he should’ve worked with Andrew instead of turning against him - understanding that as a latecomer traitor that Harry viewed him as expendable and therefore ross should work with the second in command to get out the "mastermind" (for lack of a better term)
I have to say, it's very easy to say their stupid for not thinking outside of the box when you know what is outside of the box watching at home. I believe they did the best they could with the information they were provided. Harry made some good moves and I think he deserves more credit than he just got lucky. He definitely did right at the end, but everything else was calculated and smart in my opinion! But I do really love the passion you have for this! Have a great day!
Gotta say I f*cking agree with ya. Jaz should've sided with Andrew over harry as he knew mollie wouldn't vote him, but figuring out who that harry was a traitor deserves credit. Harry really did get lucky and so did ross
Yes he did, nobody suspected him until the elusive comment and even then it was for the wrong reasons. Jaz and Diane were suspicious of him before he was a traitor so I don't count that. Evie accused him to try to save herself because she was on the chopping block and even then she defended him in the previous episode. Mollie was suspicious of him but that train of that implicated harry was a traitor as well but she ignored that. There were people such as zack and jasmine who trusted him a lot. Credit to his elusive move, he managed to salvage his attempt to get rid of harry and turned it on ross at the last second
@@MrNormal321 I guess the items you said, you don't count....well I do. It's fair everyone has an opinion and no one is wrong....just a different opinion.
Genuinely wtf are u doing with ross as well. Ive watched all english speaking versions of the traitors across the world and ross is the worst player ive seen. Hes basically the one who started the getting johnny out thing. He kept accusing jaz as well. He kepy sussing people and was always wrong
@@rpdrclips8162 Oh absolutely, but Ross made it far and he also never let slip that Diane was his mum as well, which must've been hard. Idk, I thought he did a decent job, and definitely made some poor moves. But I love that this has caused so much discussion and debate!!!
@myenragedrants I'm not going to lie. I feel like Ross made it far because the traitors knew how bad he was and him constantly accusing the wrong people than protecting traitors like Paul. They knew they could use that to their advantage and then throw him under the bus. I feel like surviving a long time because the traitors deem you a poor player doesn't make you a good one
I think Zach played a terrible game honestly he made himself a massive target for the traitors to kill him and always had 0% chance of making it to the end
I consider him to be actually quite calculating. He knew to chime up about knowing about the shield because that would exempt him from suspicion and he also wasn't suspected until Ross was voted out and basically dropped him in it. I think he's owed a lot more credit!
I feel like Ross really just got lucky. He was so convinced about multiple faithful being traitors earlier in the game , but managed to not get suspicion on him because he was charismatic. I really feel like he should have said no to being turned as well. He could have convinced Zack and made a play for the faithful!
As likeable as Mollie was, her game nose-dived when she refused to suspect her closest friend as a traitor in the late game onwards.
Too trusting and gullible. When both she and Harry voted to end the game but Jaz wanted to banish again, she should have realized Harry had to be a Traitor. If Jaz was a Traitor and knew Harry and Mollie were Faithfuls, he would have wanted to end the game.
@@graphiquejack Exactly 🙄🤦♀️🤷♀️ but she didn't want to see logic.
@@graphiquejackyes but she thought neither of them were traitors.
at best mollie got lucky, harry kept her in as a shield
but she DID vote for him, she just changed it
Anthony; "You vote for me, you're gonna be 8-1 down. Let that sink in!"
Classic speech, prior to being banished.
The best exit speech imo
Anthony should be put in legendary for that speech alone 🤣😂🙌👏 .
That speech was amazing!@@gemstar7286
I love the respect for Jasmine. She was VERY well spoken. Even if she was wrong - the way she said ANYTHING made me believe she was right 😂
The way Jasmine and Evie spoke had me agreeing with them, and then remembering that they're actually faithful and their points were actually invalid against each other. Both INCREDIBLY articulate, and Jasmine smashed it in some tables!
@myenragedrants being convincing doesn't matter if you're wrong tho. She accused Brian, Anthony, Johnny, Evie, Zac and Charlotte whilst defending Andrew, Ross, Harry and Paul. She could not have been more wrong
Jonny is an absolute hero. I have every bit of respect for him.
COMPLETELY agree!
The fact Brian crumbled when he found out the others thought he was a sheep just proves he wasn’t mentally strong enough to be any kind of a decent player!
Why go through the application process only to fuck it so badly once you are in?
Brian was in the wrong game, it was cringe 😬💀 how badly he fell to pieces when he was a faithful the whole time 😭👀 . Poor guy was a nervous wreck lol.
Brian's funny moment 'who thinks i amn't' still has me dying 😂😂😂😂
This list is very accurate, have to say.
Notice how everyone in the "Did Pretty Well" category is doing this - 🤔 in their photo 🤣🤣
That is a very good observation and genuinely didn't notice that myself!!!
Only one that's not is Sonja, but if she lasted longer she probably would have been 😅
@@code.s.l7544 Sonja could've done SO MUCH MORE!
I think Miles would have gone VERY far if he wasn’t thrown under the bus by Paul. Ross was defo a poor player. Other than being half decent at tasks? Mollie 100% got lucky because if she wasn’t close with Harry she would have been killed early. The same for Charlotte, except Charlotte clued onto her friend, whereas Mollie never did. Think Andrew got lucky too - don’t think he had a game plan whatsoever and seemed to blunder through a bit but seems a lovely guy
Andrew flew under the radar and never trusted harry or paul
Ross over Paul is wild, when he was a faithful he didn’t make a single good call.
He's just so iconic and he cast doubt on Andrew as well - Paul just got very lucky that people weren't putting two and two together after the dungeon...
Ross was a bad faithful and a terrible traitor.
@myenragedrants That shouldn't have cast any doubt onto Andrew anyway, if they followed that train of thought, it would've got them nowhere
@myenragedrants that's because people thought there was only one traitor in the dungeon and their were bigger names being thrown around during that time
Charlotte would relay information inaccurately. Drove me nuts even if it contributed to Paul's exit. Poor player
Exactly, does anyone realise paul didn't drop Harry's name into the mix about the shield
Charlotte revealed on Uncloaked she figured Paul out after Meg's murder & her game plan was to bring him to the end game. She also said she had to change her game plan when Paul became too suspicious. Of course it is up to everyone if they believe her or not.
That is interesting to hear, but none of that came across on screen which sucks... Either way, I did like Charlot!
Yeh I don't beleive that at all, she even lied about paul to harry
Jaz got robbed my Mollie at the end
Just a lil bit ahaha!
I really enjoy listening to your voice, it's so smooth and calm.
Aww thank you! That means so much!
i miss the traitors so much, but my favourite contestant was zack, the conspiracy theories were so entertaining lmao
the theories are great but i hate him for ruining the vengeance plan lol😭
at least he apologised 👍🤣
He started off annoying but I grew to love him!!
@@myenragedrantsI only disliked him because of the anthony thing and that he got ross out instead of harry
My Tier List(My Tier List is based on gameplay and is in no particular order)
S Tier
Harry(Winner)
Jaz(Banished)
Miles(Banished)
Mollie(Runner-Up)
Diane(Murdered)
Ross(Banished)
Andrew(Banished)
A Tier
Jasmine(Banished)
Evie(Banished)
Paul(Banished)
Zack(Murdered)
B Tier
Charlotte(Banished)
Charlie(Murdered)
Kyra(Murdered)
Jonny(Banished)
Anthony(Banished)
Tracey(Murdered)
Meg(Murdered)
C Tier
Sonia(Banished)
Aubrey(Murdered)
D Tier
Brian(Banished)
Ash(Banished)
Mollie and Ross do not deserve S tier ,mollie was VERY LUCKY and ross defended Paul a bloody lot and accused 3 different faithfuls
Finally some Evie love!
But I can't agree with your Ross placing. He gunned for 2 faithfuls and also fully defended Paul. I would also have Mollie in strong game.
He's in strong game because he kept the Diane secret for the entire game, as well as exposing Andrew at his last round table, plus he was just iconic!
@@myenragedrants Yeah if this was just a general tier list I would have Ross pretty high up. But whilst the stuff you've listed is impressive, I don't think it weighs up against the gameplay mistakes he made.
Great video btw. Nice to see some in depth traitors content.
Jaz got lucky imo, because he talks about how he had this master plan as a faithful. But in reality he really didn't do much, he didn't make any moves, he saved his one piece of evidence till far too late and essentially floated to the end game. Loved Jaz but he flew completely under the radar.
He absolutely did leave it to the last minute because that's when he thought he could lay his cards on the table without fear of repercussion by a larger group - It made sense to me but it was frustrating ahaha!
@@myenragedrants You see I think he didn't do him self a favour, as if he pinned the heat on Harry and voted for him every day he would have been hailed a hero and it would have played a lot differently. He might not have made it to the final but he might have got Harry out and a faithful might have won. I dunno, for me his path was more luck based that it was skill, but that's just me.
@@joebloggs2534Jaz made an excellent play this season, if you have a strong suspicion on someone who’s a Traitor, it’s better to keep them in the game until the finale instead of banishing them early, as it helps you build your evidence on them so you can lay it all down into the final round table. If you were to banish Harry in episode 9 or 10, then the faithfuls would be in a disadvantage as the remaining traitors would recruit another faithful then you would have to start off from scratch and build your evidence again in a limited amount of episodes…
@@rpdrclips8162 This is a good argument!
@@rpdrclips8162 yeah i think its best not to be a card thats laid down so that the traitors can kill you as they find you a threat
Love this ranking but I would put Jaz before Harry since he played the game so well and I’m also a Jaz stan! 😅
He did put him there tho didn’t he??
@@oleeeee7807 sorry meant to say before lol thanks for letting me know 🤣
@@rpdrclips8162 like ur pfp
Very spot on takes. Are you going to do this with the other versions/seasons?
Already done it with Aus 1/2 and US 1 - Waiting for US 2 to arrive in the UK and I'll revisit UK 1 at some point
@@myenragedrants well enjoy US 2. No spoilers but I hope you like celebrities 😆 I’m watching AUS 2 and the faithfuls are TRASH! It’s hard to watch lol UK 2 and AUS 1 are at the top imo
I'm excited for the celebrities because I think they just make everything 10x more dramatic aha!@@cierokilpatrick6034
I'm gonna say that jazz was my fave player because he suspected Harry for almost the whole game but when mollie voted for him I'm gonna say harry was my fave
have you watched any international traitor series? Would love to see season reviews or watch alongs
I actually haven't seen any international versions! If there's an interest in doing some reviews on international versions, I can see what I can do ahaha!
@@myenragedrantsthe international ones are really good too! Not at the same level as UK obviously but still good!
@@code.s.l7544 I'll definitely have to check them out!
austrailian season 1 is pretty good@@myenragedrants
watch the traitors australia s1, its brilliant!@@myenragedrants
Controversial opinion: I don’t think Jaz played that well. He sussed but didn’t lead the charge to get any traitors out. I think he kept theories too close to his chest and it ultimately meant Mollie had no basis to know his theories held weight in the final three.
Then he would’ve been banished out early when he was confronting Paul during one of the round tables literally everyone was gunning for him at one point. You need to keep your theories close if you want to make it far as a faithful and lay all your evidence during the final round table. Ultimately, Mollie didn’t even acknowledge why she has stayed in the game for so long, if she had notice that Harry was keeping her on the game like how Charlotte suspected Paul, the faithfuls would’ve won.
But leading the charge against traitors is a sure fire way to get yourself murdered and he was write to wait to confront people
@@samuelnicholson7905 oh yes if you want to have a massive target on your back you will be an easy target for murder like Zack for instance. But, there’s almost £120,000 at stake and you don’t want to lower your chances on getting it!
Yeah, it’s an incredibly fine balance. You have to have allies or you end up isolated like Jaz did at the end, but if you’re too vocal or befriend the wrong people, you can get targeted.
I don’t think he helped his case by stating Miles was a faithful when that was the most concrete evidence they had all series.
@@summers2959 but in my opinion wouldn’t that cement you as a faithful though? Because faithfuls who stood up to Traitors such as Zack defending Ash and Jaz not thinking that Miles was Traitor have no clue who the Traitors actually were. So, no Traitor would shoot them selves in the foot like that so instead they would obviously throw them under the bus and vote them out.
Miles and Andrew were not playing a winning game, they were playing a follower game (hoping to win with another traitor). Their social credit didn't extend farther than "nice bloke". This is evident when Miles was found out after the Diane poisoning, NO ONE went to bat for Miles. Andrew made it far based on his lie about knowing about the shield, but Jaz could have used Evie + Andrew to vote Harry at the final 5 as Jaz should have known Mollie is Never voting Harry. This hurts their gameplay imho as they never had win equity, whereas Mollie DID. She formed bonds with many players to the point her name never got written down. The only reason people say Mollie played a weak game is she changed Harry to Jaz in the final second, which she felt Harry was the traitor, but couldn't do it to him. Why would Jaz, a traitor, toss Red there? She clearly thought Harry COULD be a traitor, or we are all 3 faithful, and she thought 3 faithful more or just liked Harry more than Jaz. Everyone else is fairly ranked.
Andrew kinda had no hope to win after the whole ross thing, because mollie wasn't gonna let the lying thing slip away, he could've won at the final but harry decided to get mollie to go for andrew instead of jaz which was unreasonable af imo. Andrew was also trying hard to get jaz on his side so that he would trust him because he knew he would be a threat if he got suspicious of him again, another thing is that he never trusted any of the traitors and he always suspected Paul or harry would backstab him
Also jaz should've sided with Andrew over harry in the final four because he should've realised Andrew was jaz's only hope to get harry out as mollie wouldn't vote him
@@MrNormal321 I don't know the tiebreaker rule for final 4 of The Traitors. I think it is a random draw of the NON-Tied players on who goes out. Which is similar to rock draw in Survivor.
Does anyone know what the name of the song was that was playing during the Helicopter ride in Episode 12 of Season 2
I thinks it's an instrumental version of Massive Attack - Unfinished Sympathy
I’ve watched every traitors series and the British series (this one especially) were my favourite.
I feel the Us and Aussie ones make it to “reality” and dramatised rather than the game show itself
I completely agree. The British one is so incredible that you could tell me it's scripted and I'd be like "Give these people all the awards because they're the best actors ever..."
I disagree with you on Paul. I think he was inevitably going to be caught because he played SO in everyone's face, they were always going to start questioning 'Why are you still here'? Even if he hadn't gone hard on everyone, he was stuck with being at the front of the group.
So do you think he was a better or worse player then
I'm just going to explain the ones I don't agree with you on. Brian was just offended for being called a sheep which I kinda don't blame him for so I guess he is not enough time. I think Jonny was a strong game because he actually got along and really showed his own opinions and well he was one of my favorite. I don't remember Tracey/Tracy. I don't really know what to say about Anthony. I think Diane didn't really have enough time to show she really knew but I would put her in poor player. I think Miles did pretty well but the poison thing ruined it all. I mean Paul threw everyone under the bus which for me was just betrayal but he did do pretty well. Charlie didn't really get enough time to start banishing people and suspecting so I think she needed more time. Charlotte didn't have somebody to suspect that wasn't her friend so she also didn't have enough time. Ross did pretty well. I think Zack was a strong player for proving nobody would want him for a traitor because he says the most random things at the most random things but also a poor player in a way. I think Evie got lucky. Andrew played a strong game. Jaz was way more than legendary and the faithful really needed him but also messed up not listening to what he had to say. For me I think Mollie just got lucky and because Harry was friends with her she wasn't going to be murdered. harry was my favorite and played a really good game of being a traitor so he is legendaryyyy!!!!!!!!
Mollie is a solid "Got Lucky". She was suspicious of Andrew before he was recruited.
The thing with mollie was that she barely spoke up at the round table
Can't disagree enough with you on Brian.
If anything, Brian crumbing and struggling with the Sheep Tag, essentially proved he was a Faithful, the Traitors have even commented they got lucky, as there was no reason why anyone should have voted Brian.
Other people crumbled and nothing happened as a result, so why is this different with Brian.
Additionally, as much as people might mock or insinuate that Brian was a bad player, he was pretty spot on with who the Traitors were.
Anyone who has played and is competent at Social Deduction Games knows, you don't always have to last in the game the longest to do well or be one of the better players.
I mean... the slightest bit of pressure was put on him (which realistically he put on himself right at the end) and he was booted out. I hate to say it, but he didn't do anything but screw himself over in that moment. But I appreciate that others may interpret it differently
@@myenragedrants I totally understand that prospective, but it feels a little 1 Dimensional.
When you think about it longer, yes - whilst the meltdown wasn't great, a "Traitor" would not do that, there is no benefit to them doing that.
Additionally, being a Traitor is significantly easier than being a Faithful, as you have much more info as a Traitor. If there were special Traitor/Faithful roles, it would be different, but currently the show is very vanilla and simple in its theme & similarity to Town of Salem, Werewolf's & Mafia - yet those games have way more detail and possible role combinations and potential hiccups to consider in your game play.
I'm not saying Brian's meltdown should clear him completely of suspicion, but the herd mentality displayed by everyone else to have a willingness for the majority of them to flip there vote in a moments notice, proves that he wasn't the "biggest sheep" 🐑 if that makes sense.
Logically, when someone like Brian is voted off - the first point to review after his banishment, should have been;
Whoever originally applied pressure to him & whoever he voted. If both happen to be the same person, you likely have a good lead - Paul turned out to be a traitor, and the faithfuls were far to oblivious to his smug nature.
It's just like how Diane in Ep 1 noticed Zack's fidgeting, but mistook it for being Harry, whilst that was a potential clue or consideration for Diane, she never ones expanded upon it after that day. So people are seemingly quick to drop their own opinions.
@@AnimePigeon The one who first applied pressure to Brian was Brian self he wanted to come forward to convince everyone he wasn't the Biggest Sheep and started putting shade on himself he basically begged people to vote him out.
Ross and jasmine were terrible players. I'd put them in got lucky. Jasmine was so confidently wrong at every round table and ross fumbled his revenge plan massively
Im sorry but how on earth can you put diane in legendary. She constantly accused wrong people like she said it was anthony because of that stupid line thing that happened before the traitors was even picked, she was so rude to him
I mean, Diane correctly called out Ash and Miles, so I think that makes up for the fact that she accused Anthony - I will say that it's really easy to say people are stupid for accusing someone wrongly, but that's because we know who the traitors are!
@myenragedrants I agree it's not easy to find the traitors, especially at the start when they have nothing to go on. But it's the reason why she accused Anthony which makes it for me. Was absolutely absurd
love this
Did Ash put herself in the dungeon or was she coerced into the dungeon a bit by Paul & Harry? I might have to go back & look at that turret scene again. Anyway, she played a poor traitor & so had to go.
I could be wrong, but I thought she volunteered to go in...
@@myenragedrants no you're probably right buddy. I'm just finding a reason to watch the whole series again, one that'll keep my partner happy😂 Cheers for your reply👍
@@PaquetasCar2147 No worries! Glad you took the time to comment!
@@myenragedrants actually having just looked back at it, it was Miles, in fact, who intially coerced Ash to put herself in the dungeon, not Harry or Paul. I was wrong, apologies
Honestly, that's a surprise to me! But to be fair to him, Ash should have known that would muck her game up...@@PaquetasCar2147
tbh even if you get out a traitor, it depends on what type of traitor they are. if you manage to suss out a major traitor like paul or harry, that makes u better than someone who got out scapegoat traitors like ross, andrew, miles and ash tbh.
I agree - sussing out the obvious ones is light work, but getting the ones that are hidden in plain sight is much harder, so deserves more credit.
@myenragedrants ross and Andrew were literal opposites. Andrew was originally a scapegoat and was gonna get banished next but he survived till the end. Ross was someone to help get to the end with and win but he got banished next
Actually Diane did not play well. The aim of the game is to survive and win. Not just nominate the traitors. She scared them and as a result they got her eliminated.
To an extent, I agree, but then if you're just surviving, are you really good at playing the game? or have you just gotten lucky - At least Diane was trying to work out who the traitors were and, on a few instances, shot and hit correctly
@@myenragedrants "if you're just surviving, are you really good at playing the game? or have you just gotten lucky?"
*cough* Mollie *cough*
@@scipioafricanus5871 It's an interesting conundrum. Because I feel like there are some cases where surviving to the end as a faithful is because you've played a great social game. But then there are times when people are just very lucky...
Does no one actually remember that Jasmine bought up Harry's name in the car and not Paul. Also I disagree with the placing of Evie and Jasmine.
Best season, internationally, EVER. If you haven't seen it, WATCH THIS ONE!!!! Loved it and it is HUGE in the UK! I mean, MASSIVE. I haven't seen your ranking yet, but if Dianne and Harry aren't LEGENDARY I have no idea what I will do 🤣😂
Ye honestly Miles kinda got sabotaged - like it really wasnt his fault any of it
Well if I was Miles I would be making everyone’s drink and I would ask someone like Evie/ Charlotte or Mollie to hand out the drinks, like pass this fizzy Rośe to Diane please 😊
I mean, realistically, Diane shouldn't have been alive in the morning. That should have been made clear to the traitors cause whilst it was a great twist, it did destroy Miles' game for shock value ig.
To say Ross played a strong game is to say your channel features enraged rants - both equally preposterous notions. Your argument that he helped the faithful more when he wasn't a faithful would work if it wasn't for the fact that faithfuls and traitors are not on the same team. But aside from that hiccup, nice list.
Thanks aha! I do agree, enraged rants aren't always part of every episode, but they do crop up everytime someone pisses me off on a show! As for Ross, he played a good game to an extent, I just didn't feel right putting him any lower because he was such an important part in getting Andrew out of the game ig
@myenragedrants but that was only out of spite
I nearly stopped watching after episode 6 and even though watching Diane walk to her death on episode 7 made me feel physically ill and I am happy I continued even if I didn’t care much for anyone else after Diane left Harry played well though so it was enough to keep me watching not as good as the first UK season but there’s worse seasons of traitors to watch
Cant lie Diann ate that game up and deserved the win or got further
She was the icon we never got to crown!
@@myenragedrants the icon we got to bury.
@@scipioafricanus5871 Iconic that she got a whole episode and challenge dedicated to her
Hmmm I disagree with this list. I think you’re giving Jaz, Ross and Harry way too much credit. Jaz had good deductive abilities but failed in taking action with other people to get out Harry - he should have read Molly’s crush for Harry for what it was and understood that the final 5 vote was the appropriate time to weaponise Andrew’s suspicions and Evie’s desperation to get Harry out without Molly’s input. Jaz should’ve known he had lost if he went to F3 with Harry and Molly. Jaz could have convinced Molly to vote out andrew and then vote out Evie, to ensure two innocents remain at the end. in other words, his strategy was backwards. Harry was an okay traitor - I would say he should go in the got lucky category because there were only poor faithfuls left at the end such that 2 traitors were in the final (wild) and those people were gullible enough to support Harry. Harry’s double bluff wasn’t actually that impressive, and I was seething when people just assumed it to be true. The faithful were so bad at the game (it’s making me angry now just reliving it lol). Ross also misplayed as a traitor as he should’ve worked with Andrew instead of turning against him - understanding that as a latecomer traitor that Harry viewed him as expendable and therefore ross should work with the second in command to get out the "mastermind" (for lack of a better term)
I have to say, it's very easy to say their stupid for not thinking outside of the box when you know what is outside of the box watching at home. I believe they did the best they could with the information they were provided. Harry made some good moves and I think he deserves more credit than he just got lucky. He definitely did right at the end, but everything else was calculated and smart in my opinion! But I do really love the passion you have for this! Have a great day!
Gotta say I f*cking agree with ya. Jaz should've sided with Andrew over harry as he knew mollie wouldn't vote him, but figuring out who that harry was a traitor deserves credit. Harry really did get lucky and so did ross
I would have put Andrew in the strong game slot. I just don't think he made it to legendary level.
Yes he did, nobody suspected him until the elusive comment and even then it was for the wrong reasons. Jaz and Diane were suspicious of him before he was a traitor so I don't count that. Evie accused him to try to save herself because she was on the chopping block and even then she defended him in the previous episode. Mollie was suspicious of him but that train of that implicated harry was a traitor as well but she ignored that. There were people such as zack and jasmine who trusted him a lot. Credit to his elusive move, he managed to salvage his attempt to get rid of harry and turned it on ross at the last second
@@MrNormal321 I guess the items you said, you don't count....well I do. It's fair everyone has an opinion and no one is wrong....just a different opinion.
Charlotte accused Paul.
Genuinely wtf are u doing with ross as well. Ive watched all english speaking versions of the traitors across the world and ross is the worst player ive seen. Hes basically the one who started the getting johnny out thing. He kept accusing jaz as well. He kepy sussing people and was always wrong
I agree the only thing Ross did well was throwing Andrew under the bus 😂
@@rpdrclips8162 Oh absolutely, but Ross made it far and he also never let slip that Diane was his mum as well, which must've been hard. Idk, I thought he did a decent job, and definitely made some poor moves. But I love that this has caused so much discussion and debate!!!
@myenragedrants I'm not going to lie. I feel like Ross made it far because the traitors knew how bad he was and him constantly accusing the wrong people than protecting traitors like Paul. They knew they could use that to their advantage and then throw him under the bus. I feel like surviving a long time because the traitors deem you a poor player doesn't make you a good one
Ooo errr
I think Zach played a terrible game honestly he made himself a massive target for the traitors to kill him and always had 0% chance of making it to the end
Tbf he made it pretty far without being banished, despite many people thinking he was a traitor. I think he did a pretty decent job tbf
@myenragedrants the only people who thought he was a traitor were Andrew and Anthony wdym
To many people were not that good Meg was shit and some people coasted 😊
Dianne is very overrated and is loud for the sake of loud. But this is considered 'hun' behaviour so people can't view her without a rose-tinted lens.
Anthony wasent that god
He was clever and cautious with his suspicions of Paul
Andrew wasent that good
I consider him to be actually quite calculating. He knew to chime up about knowing about the shield because that would exempt him from suspicion and he also wasn't suspected until Ross was voted out and basically dropped him in it. I think he's owed a lot more credit!
I thought he was pretty iloosive.
Bro he was recruited as a SCAPEGOAT yet he made it to the finals, he knew when to speak up and what to say
FACTS@@MrNormal321
@@lepreconvict3606iloooooooooosive indeed
stop saying the f word