Thank you for your review and I really appreciate the effort you put in to help understand the differences between these robots. It is the best review I have seen and will really help me in my choice.
Your review videos are "stellar" - I knew very little about vacuuming / mopping robots until I discovered one of your videos and ultimately this channel. Previously I only had heard of Roomba's but had no idea about the sheer amount of other brands in this category. After watching your reviews and videos from others, I settled on the roborock S7 MaxV over the their newer roborock S8 model. Memorial weekend deal for $539.99 and I also opted for with additional 3 year extended warranty ($60.99) offered through Amazon, because of the 1 star reviews and malfunction complaints on pretty much all brands. Thanks for doing such an awesome job on vacuum robots; it saved me a ton of time conducting my own research. Keep it going...
Thanks so much for your support and kind words. I enjoy helping share knowledge with others and I have a passion for robots, tech and of course clean floors! Enjoy that S7 MaxV!
Update to my previous note. I did update to the Roborock S7 ultra and so glad I did. This was based on the DreameBOT L10s being too new, no data on the company, no reviews from users, no info on customer support. Even if the robot tests great, these other things matter to me. Roborock has frequent updating with new features, superior customer service, navigation to beat everyone else and I was familiar with the company because of owning the S6 Max V. The S6 robot is being sent to my daughter in another state. And have you seen the Robot kiss? If you have more than 1 robot you can go to the Ultra Settings: Pin n Go and click on the heart in the upper right. There is a hilarious paragraph explaining "the Cupid Mode". When the ultra sees another robot it comes up like a lost lover, bumps it and gives it a big kiss (with sound). Funniest thing I have ever seen!
Great review! I went with the S7 MaxV Ultra a month ago and love how much it can do. The app is flawless, navigation is perfect, and it was easy to get into a routine to avoid odors in the rinse water and mop. I choose to vacuum the house first, without the mop head attached. If you have wooden floors, low pile carpet and have throw rugs on top of the carpet (as we do in our family room), it navigates the different levels easily. I then mop the whole house after adding the mop head, empty the rinse water, and toss the mop in the washer. Since most of the house is wooden floors, it does a beautiful job. There are several other good choices out there, as you have shown, and it all depends on your needs and your budget. And, by the way, you have the MOST pleasant speaking voice ever.
Glad you are pleased with the S7 Maxv Ultra. It is a great unit. I will have a new video out tomorrow comparing it to the new S8 Pro Ultra. Stop back by and check it out. You won't want to miss it! Thanks for your kind words and support!
Hi Tony, I also have timber floors with low pile carpet runners; why do you have to do a separate mopping run? Does the S7 not detect when it's on carpet and stop mopping?
@@doubledark2 There are places in my family room where there is a very close transition from wooden floor, low pile carpet and thicker Persian throw rugs. Having three transitions in such a small place really gave the vacuum a hard time and it got stuck between the transitions. Without the mop attachment on the back, it works perfectly.
Dreame x10/x20 have magnetically attached pads that the robots can leave on the base when doing vacuum only runs. Unfortunately, the drive have a global version, and overcoming region lock is a big hassle.
I love Roborock S7. It’s my first Robo vacuum and mop. Doesn’t bother me to clean mop and dust bin after each use. That way I know how well it’s cleaning. I like your reviews.
Thanks so much, Jamie, for getting this video out so fast! Just in time for Black Friday! I have Roborock S6 Max V which works like a charm, but have my heart set on the S7 ultra. At 85 years old, I need all the help I can get! For many years I had iRobot machines (with multiple problems) and was amazed when I got the Roborock S6. The navigation is totally amazing - not missing a spot and never getting lost. I love your comparison video and have decided to stick with Roborock and upgrade to S7 ultra - but wonder if the company has a program to return the current model and receive some type of credit toward the new model? If not, where do you offer your prior model for sale? J Cappola
Hey June! First thanks for your support! This video was in high demand and since I had all of the videos in my archive it was fairly easy to put out. I am not aware of a trade in program with Roborock. I would sell or give to a family member (they make a great Christmas gift) or sell on Facebook Marketplace of Ebay. You will love the S7 MaxV Ultra. Big upgrade from the S6MaxV because of the dock and the lifting mopping plate.
Thanks for the video, I’ve been between the ecovacs and roborock for a couple months but decided to pull the trigger on the Dreame due to the Black Friday sale. I like the spinning raising mops which I with ecovacs had and the look of the dock over the huge roborock dock. Hopefully they can fix some of the problem obstacle avoidance issues with firmware. Also I thought I was going to have to buy all 3 to compare so thanks for saving me from doing that.
Glad I could help you sort it out. Ecovacs not having lifting mopping pads is a big deal imo. Not only can it not clear carpets, bur if you want to vacuum only you must first remove the pads. Not ideal.
@@coprilettodelnapoli5466 Not as bad with pet hair pickup since it still uses bristles for the roller bush. The drawback is hair gets wrapped around that roller. The L10s can also have issues with cables. Only iRobot and Ecovacs treat cables like something it should avoid. Cables are tricky.
Thank you very much for this review.... I had my heart set on the Deebot X1 Omni.... After watching this..... Im buying the L10s... Thanks for saving me £300!
Great and thorough comparison: I might just add, based on other videos, in the "Dock" Category, that the Dreame's internal washing stations seems to be easier to clean (no mechanical small parts, just a plastic board to take out and clean up ) than the Roborock S7.
Just picked up a refurb L10s Ultra for $409 USD off eBay last week. I don’t mind not having the latest and greatest for a steep discount. Plus, it’s already had all the necessary firmware updates to perfect its operation. I’ll probably upgrade in a year or two and grab up another refurbed end of year model and sell this one on Facebook. Seems the best method for getting the best value 😏
Hi Jamie, great comparisons. Well packed and straight to the point. One point you've missed is the convenience of removing the mop plate in order to remove the mop cloth for changing or washing it in the laundry without having to remove the robot from the dock or flip it over, since the robot docking itself with its rear facing outward. Some people but not me also concern about this due to privacy matter, because the camera facing outward and exposed at all times. Indeed Roborock's dock design isn't as sleek as the other two, it looks like a printer with all the ink catridges. For the dock design I'll give it to Dreame, hands down. It isn't as wide as the other two and just as sleek and neat as the Ecovacs' one, they are easily to wipe clean from dust compared to Roborock's as they have flat surfaces on each sides of their docks.
Thanks for a great review of the three moppimg robots that I'm looking at. I was leaning towards the DreameBot and after your review you sealed the deal for me.
That depends on a ton of factors like floor surface, number of pets, etc. All 3 of these are top when it comes to floor cleaning. The results in the comparison tests help highlight their differences. Some are better on carpet and others are better on hard floor surfaces.
Great comparison. I was thinking of getting the L10s but I recently saw the Dreame X10 and will be waiting for that unit since it can auto-remove the mopping pads.
I noticed the X10 as well, but I'm wondering though if it makes much of a difference, if the L10S still can do vacuum only even with the mops attached.
@@jamie.andrews Let me clarify: Do you think it makes much sense waiting for X10's mop detaching, when it really doesn't make much difference whether the mops are attached all the time or not.
@Tom I am not certain what else the X10 will do. I am likely the wrong person to ask because I have always said the mop pads need to either be removed by machine or lifted inside the belly. I normally send mine out to do carpets and then send it to mop. The pads on the L10s will drag medium pile carpet. Now with that said that only matters when they are wet and dirty.
Great review. I have some elevated floor mats in the house on top of the hardwood... Any way of knowing which vacuum performs best going up and down between level changes and is least likely to get stuck?
Not really. Some channels test this, but honestly their tests are in a lab and do not really represent all the different shapes and aspects of the thresholds. Robots all have fairly common ground clearance since they need to be close to the flor for the vacuum to be effective. Buying a robot like Roborock that can navigate well around your home might be your best chance since it will attempt over and over to get past it in the most effective way.
Hello great review!! I have buy the Dreame L10S ultra and I am very happy but I have a house with many floors and the Dreame has a problem to save my maps, I have try many times to save a ny maps but the robot can't finish the task is just ride around, I find a solution and I bring the robot and the box to second floor and then i can save a new map for the second floor. I hope tha dreame can fix this issue 👍
TY for the review! The biggest dealbreaker on the dreamebot, IMO, is the lack of removable water tank that is in the robot itself. Unless there’s some way to clean it with soap and hot water, it’s inevitable that it will get moldy and gross and be spreading that onto our floors.
The X1 also has the same issue. If you mop with it frequently it should not be an issue as the tank is so small it will flush often. It is only 80ml or 2.7oz.
I think it's quite unlikely to grow mould as the tank is constantly refilled with water and detergent. The tank seems air tight too (with a valve/onboard pump) so that will help 👍🏻
Hi Jamie, thank you for your review :) which of the Dream l10s or Roborock 7 Max Ultra robots will be better able to handle the floor service (approx. 30m2) along with its mopping? Unfortunately, they don't go up the stairs yet ;) and I'm afraid what will happen when the water runs out or the tank fills up? I especially think if l10s can wash such a surface with such a small water tank? And which of them will be better with returns from the upper floor...?
The S7 Max has more than twice the size internal water tank so it will last longer if you have a big second story. Both function the same with multi floor setup requiring you to move them between floors.
GREAT detailed review and thank you for all the hard-work ... For mopping I would rate RoboRock to be a winner because the cleaning result it has provided are the best ones ... Typically people run those robots either when they are not at home in the day or during nights and are least bothered about the time it takes to get it cleaned.. What matters are the results and roborock did the best job here from quality perspective at 4:26
Thanks and I appreciate the feedback. The S7 MaxV is a great mop for sure. I do wish it had a drying system out of the box though. They have fixed that with the S8 Pro Ultra.
Hi man, I can't decide between the following models: Ecovacs Deebot X1 Turbo ( 800 euros) Ecovacs Deebot X1 Plus (700 euros) Roborock S7+ (645 euros) Roborock S7 MaxV Plus (790 euros) Dreame Z10Pro (400 euros) Ecovacs Deebot T10+ (700 euros) ECOVACS DEEBOT T10 TURBO (700 euros) I don't have any carpets or pets at home. It's just hardwood Floor. What would you recommend? My budget is unfortunately not enough for Omni or Ultra (800 is really the max I can go for) thanks a lot in advance :) Keep up the good work!
@@jamie.andrews I finally go to S7 MaxV Ultra + drying pad for my second robot vacuum, after reviewing all your videos relates to S7 MaxV Ultra. As I had Roborock g10 at home already, so thinking that would be better for me as these two can share accessories like mopping pad and ect. Roborock after sale service seems very reliable in my country. Thanks! again for the very useful reviews :) your have done. Really help me with my choice.
Great review however, from someone who has one of these, take note that the mopping feature is great if you only have one floor to do. Since the robot goes back to its station to clean the mop and then continue its session (I think it does this after 15min) you will not be able to do that on another floor unless you have another station. So basically you have to bring the robot back to the floor where you have the station for it to clean the mops. Then you have to get the robot to exit the station and bring it back to the floor it was on and resume cleaning. Only problem is it wont remember where it was so it will do areas it already did. It’s not like when the there is a low battery and it goes to charge and then resume where it left off. Something to consider.
Great point. I only have a single story home and I am not able to test for these things. I will make sure to mention this in the future. Which one do you have?
@@jamie.andrews I Have the Omni X1. Another point is the 3D mapping is a real joke. It’s very difficult to place furniture on on an app. Would be great if they had a PC based version which would make it easier. I also have difficulty splitting rooms can’t seem to get it.
Finally someone sheds light on this topic. I have the dreametech L10 ultra coming and could not find any info of easiest ways to care for multiple floors without taking the station up and down stairs.
I read that when the L10s runs out of water in the robot's internal container, it will not go to the base to refill it, but will continue to "mop". The robot does not have a float sensor and if I do not adjust its configuration well and, for example, exceed about 25 meters in a wet configuration, the robot will probably run out of water, it will continue to mop without water (i.e. not mop), and this is not good. Does the Roborock S7 Max Ultra also have this, i.e. that it does not go alone to fill the water when it runs out? Do you know any robot that knows it's out of water and will come back to refill it?
Nice comparison. The ranked scoring does not take into consideration what will be deal breakers for many if not most. The Ecovacs will not autonomously switch between vacuuming and moping, it takes human interaction to remove/add the mop pads. Is this the does for the BreamBOT? Disappointed this wasn‘t talked about in the comparison. The Ecovacs not cleaning the mop well enough is a dealbreaker for those who plan to mop routinely.
Thanks, I attempted to point out potential deal breakers, but what might be a deal breaker for some may not be for other people. It is pretty subjective. I scored the Ecovacs X1 OMNI in 3rd place in the Hardware category 01:28 and mentioned it was in 3rd place because it does not have the lifting mopping pad system, but you are right one extra thing that makes it bad is you have to remove the mopping pads before you vacuum. You do not have to remove the mopping pads for the DreameBOT. I think you meant the DreameBOT not cleaning the mopping pads would be a deal breaker for some. This is why it scored at 08:02 the DreameBOT in 3rd place is because it did not do well cleaning the mopping pads. To be a bit fair here not of them will clean them each and every time perfectly. Occasionally you will need to remove and hand wash each mopping pads by hand. The docks do not have a way to ring out the old dirty water which is important. Once final note there are more in-depth reviews for each robot where I go into full pros and cons for each. The links are in the description.
Hello Jamie, good evening. I would like to ask a question. You who did several tests with the roborock s7 and s7 maxv, could you kindly tell me which one would you choose? Does the cleaning efficiency of both have a difference? Does the 5100pa of the maxv make a difference in cleaning? Thank you very much in advance for the feedback!
That is a great idea for a future video! Get the MaxV if you value object avoidance and / or the ability to use the Ultra dock aka Empty Wash Fill Dock. Otherwise get the S7.
Hey Jamie do you think the roborock is better than the ecovacs even though I would have to remove the mops on both because my carpets are too high? I noticed the ecovacs is much quieter vs the roborock in their max modes and the object avoidance seems to be a little better on the ecovacs especially with stretched out cables which I wish the roborock did better with. Plus I think the ecovacs looks a lot nicer aesthetically speaking. Is the roborock still a lot better in your opinion with high pile carpets assuming they're about the same price?
Hey Travis! The bonus with the Roborock is you can vacuum carpet with the dry mop attached and then mop and vacuum your floors which allows you to keep the pad on the robot at all times. Unfortunately, on the Ecovacs you must remove the pads to vacuum on carpet. There is really no way around that since they don't lift at all you can't cross carpet with them unless they are wet. Object avoidance is a bit better on Ecovacs. Mopping performance on Roborock is better. Looks is really subjective. Heck most of this stuff I talk about is subjective. Keep me posted as to what you do and if you need more help just reply.
@@jamie.andrews thanks for the reply! So my carpet is too high for the roborock so for either model I'm going to have to remove the mops to vacuum my carpets so that's not a deciding factor for me. I have noticed that the ecovacs app and navigation is buggier than the roborock but just as you stated the ecovacs avoids cables which is really nice for me. I like both and it's a tough decision as I like both but being that the mop has to be removed on both for me would you still recommend the roborock over the ecovacs? I thought about trying the dreametech as well but it turned me off about the mop pad center not being totally cleaned.
@Travis May I am not sure if I understand why you would need to remove the mopping pad on the Roborock with thick carpet? It can drag a dry pad over thick carpet which is what I do on my thick carpets. I have your same issue btw and I always leave my Roborock and Dreame L10S pads on. You can choose vaccum only with the L10s and the S7 and the pads stay dry. You only get vacuum only mode on the X10 when you physically remove the pads. The Ecovacs navigation is buggy at times, but I am not sure I would consider it a deal breaker. I continue to use the Roborock and the Dreame in my home. The Ecovacs has been decommissioned to allow for future robort reviews. I can really recommend all 3 robots and what is my favorite is not always the favorite of others so I try not to sway people one way or the other and just provide some end user experience. I would also not discount Dreame so fast. Sure that is a flaw with the pads, however I recommend hand washing them on all of these robots every so often. CES is also right around the corner, and I can tell you some awesome vacuums are hitting the market soon. Might wanna wait some if you can. The perfect one may be around the corner.
@@jamie.andrews thanks again for the reply and thank you for reviewing these units I don't mind if you try to sway my decision as I'm sure you have more experience with these units than I do. While I don't mind removing the pads on the x1 omni I didn't realize that it was normal to leave the mop pad on the s7 maxv with medium to high pile carpet. I figured it wasn't sanitary to leave the mop dragging on the carpet during the vacuum cycle and not sure if I was just being weird or too anal about it. If that's what people usually do then that is a game changer. I just figured most people that left the mop on 24/7 had low pile carpets. I did also consider just returning and waiting to see what new products roborock and ecovacs come out with since it is getting close. Have you heard any rumors about new robots coming soon?
Welcome! That is one test I do not perform. It relies entirely on the side brush and is not effective at all for carpets since the brush roller is inboard a few inches. My answer is always that these are maintenance robots and you should still fully mop and vacuum (with upright etc) and use the robots in between. For hard floors the Dyad makes easy work of edge cleaning.
As far as mopping is concerned, I heard the x1 has a special mopping mode where it passes close to the wall with the side where the pads extend past its housing, so that there's little to no unwashed floor left. But this doesn't appear to be a deal-maker for me
Does the smaller onboard water tank of the L10s limit how much it can mop on an outing compared to the S7 MaxV? I have a 2000sqft house that is about 60% hardwood, 40% low pile carpet. Would like to regularly have the hardwood mopped. Thanks! Great video
Thanks! You can set it to go back to the dock as soon as every 10 minutes to have the pads washed and water tank refilled. That is plenty and has not been an issue for me.
Great video Which is the best at climbing transitions please? I have a 2mm transition from the living room hard floor to the kitchen tiles and my old LG Roboking can't handle climbing it I'm still holding out for the LS10 Ultra to be released in Australia but no response from Dreametech yet Apparently it was released before the Ecovacs and Roborock in China and the L10S Ultra can even can be connected to a mains water tap
@@jamie.andrews thanks for the fast response Yes I meant 2cm not 2mm🤭 I want to take advantage of the Black Friday sales as prices are so expensive in Australia Ecovacs has knocked aud$1k off so now it costs aud$2k Not sure if I should wait for the L10S Ultra or not My old discontinued LG Roboking's battery is on its last legs
@@jamie.andrews Dreamtech finally released the L10S Ultra in Australia, however its cost is AUD$2599 which is a lot more than I expected. (Australian prices are usually double US prices, so I expected the cost to be AUD$2000. The X1 Omni is currently reduced to AUD$2499 and the S7 MaxV Ultra is AUD$2999 with the optional mop heater included.) I'm waiting for a sale or for the price to drop.
The L10s Ultra is on sale these days for ~1000, and I like the ability to dry the mopping pads, and their cleaning solution.. solution! Have you tried using your own in the cartridge after it was empty? SO close to pulling the trigger, and upgrade from my S5 Max! :) Cheers
I have compared the Q Revo to the L10s which is similar to the S7 Max Ultra, but honestly a better robot to direct compare to the L10s based on price and features. Take a look ruclips.net/video/iPtqfMa7bz4/видео.html
Thank you for the review, that went quick 👍🏽 But now I'm even more confused on which one to choose 😁 Roborocks or Dreame. The app is to buggy on ecovacs. I really liked the Roborocks software/app and navigation. But the vibrating and lifting feature seems like a week link, something that might break to early.
Lol glad I could help confuse you! I run the Roborock Reddit and have not seen people having issues with the mopping system. It is the same one on the original S7 which appears to still be going strong.
@Zeb Zeb Dont't you know L10s Ultra also can lift its mop pad? The only additional moving part from Roborock compared to Dreame is on the self washing mop pad.
From what I've seen on the reviews, while the dreame leaves centers of mop pads dirty, s7 has a similar problem with dirt left along the long side of the pad. Also, their cleaning system on the dock is harder to manually clean, and I would assume more prone to malfunction with time.
Lo tengo hace unas semanas y me encanta ,navega limpia y friega muy muy bien ,tuve el problema de carga de agua en el depósito interno al principio haciendo la auto reparación se solucionó ,hace una semana empezó a fallar en la subida a la base una rueda resbalaba ,debido al calor de las mopas la rampa se ha dilatado 2milimetros y eso hace que resbale poniendo cinta en el suelo para que la rueda no resbale está resuelto pero por lo demás 😂va muy muy bien supongo que es muy nueva ,aún tienen que pulir muchos fallos ,ya me contarás si con el paso de los días también te pasa lo de la rampa ya que no soi el único que le ha pasado por lo que veo quizás sea general el problema
Thanks for the review. I was a surprised about the lack of cable avoidance, since several reviewers have stated it does very well going around cords. I wonder if it has anything to do with which app you choose to use or if there are firmware updates that were missing. This is a big deal for me, but I am glad some other reviews show this working. Weird. Thanks again!!! :)
A lot of other reviewers use a cord in a bundle when testing. They do this to make the robot look good. I don't need it to avoid bundles of cords I need it to avoid stray cords. The X1 Omni avoids it in my test so I would be suspicious about other reviewers. The firmware is up to date on the robot and is 4.3.3_1125. I do plan to test with the Dreame app, but I doubt it will make it avoid cords as the firmware is what controls that and not the app software. I really appreciate the info and I will definitely continue to test and keep everyone posted if it improves!
@@jamie.andrews Thanks for the reply and again for the video. Good point. If I do end up getting one, I will definitely be testing this. Obstacle avoidance is very high on my priority list, so I am a bit nervous about the L10S now. sigh.
I did a video on the better pads you may want to look at. The link to buy the pads is in the description of that video and there are 2 choices. ruclips.net/video/Owk05qp5xrs/видео.html
@@jamie.andrews I bought and checked over the weekend - both make similar noise. White slightly less and better at avoiding obstacles in the dark (I'm very surprised). I choose Dreame. Regards.
If I recall it is 2200 square feet, but keep in mind you can send it back to the dock as soon as every 10 minutes to have the mopping pads cleaned as well.
Sweet! Maybe you should get cheaper robots with these all-in-one docks, like the Roidmi EVA for less than 1000 dollars, but missing Obstacle Avoidance. When is the combo j7 review coming?
The problem with the offbrand cheaper ones is they don't really get many views. It will be before Christmas. I am taking some time with the family and on vacation all this week. Take care my friend!
Just returned my bot (L10s ultra) and got a new one. Still the same problem. No water coming out of the tank. Neither to the robot or the base station for cleaning. Water tank filled to max. Don't get it 🤷🏼♂️
Something is not right for sure. Does it attempt to start washing the mopping pads at the beginning? It should say it is washing the mopping pads prior to going out for a mopping. Also can you confirm the Cleaning Mode is set to Sweeping and Mopping? Also make sure you do not have No Mop Zones setup.
@@jamie.andrews Yep, all set as supposed to. Even if not, water should be filled on the bottom plate of the base when long press the home button. Anyway, now it seems to work. Seems like it had problems sucking upp water from the tank due to air in the pipes. After couple of atemps it started to spit out water on the bottom of the base. So now the robot mops.
@@Sailor_Zeb Glad it is working. I have seen that happen before, but it did not happen to my L10s. I figured you had to know what you are doing since you had other Ultra robot vacuums. I am glad you got it sorted out!
@@Sailor_Zeb In these cases, I think you can hold a button on the dock/base that should spill out water to the dock's cleaning area. Press it a few times until water appears.
@@jamie.andrews Then I have to clean dirty water tank.But if u guys pls request robot company to introduce full auto system so that we have no need to tatch except swise on.
In your revies of Roborock S7 and DreamBOT L10s the first one got 125 and the second one only 119 grams out of whole 130grams of cat litter, here the S7 did much worse? Why is that? Maybe because DremBOT isbrand new and Roborock more than a year older? I think that would be not fair
i feel like the L10 S is the better machine, but i just cant decide if Roborocks software and remote control function is worth it to go with S7, i like the security features
The L10s is suppose to have the remote viewing feature although it is not there in the MI Home app. It might be only for the Dreamehome app. I have never had an issue with the Dreame software although you get more options and features with Roborock.
@@Jacksonzole57 I prefer some things over the Dreame, but it is hard to argue with the excellent cleaning ability of the L10s and I am a huge fan of the premix solution, but others might not. I really try not to recommend a particular product on my channel, but instead show the strengths and weaknesses and let the viewers decide. What I might like others may not care about.
Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra owner. I personally think it's the ultimate when it comes to hands off cleaning. I definitely think it's not the best looking of the 3. But the fact you can just leave the mop on and it can lift the mop and vacuum without you having to take the mop off or on its a huge plus. I havent had to touch my vacuum or mop since I got it ruclips.net/video/2J4cULRBFMg/видео.html
The s7 with dryer is $3000 in Australia. That’s nearly 2k US. I’ve had my heart set on it. However the dreame ticks all the boxes…. I’m worried the support for dreame is much less. It seems much harder to find and buy here.
@@jamie.andrews thanks. Your videos have been invaluable in trying to make a decision. I think the dreame would be best value for money by far. But it looks impossible to get in Australia without importing of some kind…. My original Neato with LiDAR was bought this way. But it leaves you high and dry when things don’t work. The max v ultra with dryer is currently on sale for $2600 Au. But that’s an incredibly hard pill to swallow. Considering the deebot N8 are on sale 60% off - going for $400. I could have 5 of them for the price of one max V… sure - not the same features but. $2200 less.
I've been waiting for the Dreametech L10S Ultra to be released in Australia for months No response from Dreametech yet Unfortunately shipping and "Australia tax" means double the price for most items
Unfortunately Dreametech Australia has just released the W10 so it could be a bit of a wait until they release the L10S Ultra in Australia (if they release it ever) I'm kinda sick of waiting tbh
The Ecovac x1 Omni does have cleaning solution available it was released this week so a few days after this video came out. Also seems like you on your value comparison and dock comparison you keep forgetting the fact that the dryer on s7 max is more money. In both cases to match the others it costs more and is an attachment it should make the s7 max drop to third in those cases. Also seems that the navigation category should consider obstacle avoidance. The Ecovac likely does the patterns you don't like because of what it is seeing and avoid. The other two have avoidance issues which is why their navigation may appear more direct.
Good to know about the cleaning solution finally being released. I still wish they along with RR would include some in the box though. The value category is based on what you get for the money spent (MSRP.) The reason I scored the S7 MaxV is in second place is because you have to spend more than the L10s ($1399) to get cleaning solution and the dryer attachment. The reason the S7 MaxV is not third is because the Ecovacs does not have a lifting mopping system and it requires you to remove the mopping pads by hand if you only want to vacuum plus according to my calculations it does retail for more than the other 2. You see if you buy the S7 MaxV Ultra with the dock dryer module you would spend right at $1500 retail ($1399 + $99) and the retail of the Ecovacs X1 OMNI is still more at $1549.99. Neither the S7 MaxV or the X1 OMNI include cleaning solution in the box. Since I have a category dedicated to obstacle avoidance 05:35 I did not include it in navigation category even though they could be considered similar I kept them separate since some people disable obstacle avoidance due to privacy concerns with the cameras. This way we can only judge their ability to navigate via lidar. I have tested the Ecovacs with and without object avoidance enabled (I do this with all robots that have the feature) and the navigations is still a bit inefficient. None of these have horrible navigation though, but Roborock is consistently top notch.
@@chellealexander8633 No, I have not heard of insurance for a robot vacuum. Is that in case it were to get accidentally damaged? I have seen where you can buy an extended warranty though.
I bought both the X1 Omni and the S7 MaxV Ultra at launch, and have exclusively used the Roborock since receiving it. I got a refund for my X1, but didn't have to send it back so I've still got it, too lol. It sits in the corner, neglected as it deserves to be. The X1 mopping performance was atrocious out of the box. Got replacement plates from Ecovacs, which made it at least functional, but RR was still better. My other major complaint is, as you mentioned, the Ecovacs app is hot garbage. RR has always just worked. Thanks for the reviews & comparisons. I'm really interested to see this tech continue to improve, and another competitor on the market will only help drive innovation.
Yea Zack I am getting ready to decommission the X1 OMNI in my house. I turned the voice assistant off because it would randomly respond to the TV or us talking (but hardly ever when I really needed it to) and even after turning it off it appears it still listens as it will now tell me that the assistant is off and please turn it on if I want to use it. How dumb is this? The lack of lifting mopping plates is the major reason it is not going to continue to be used in my home. I too love the tech and am eager to see what CES has to offer this year. Have a good one Zack!
Made the mistake of getting the X1 Omni. Returning it now in place of the S7. The app is truly awful. Obstacle avoidance is great and it cleans well but the app makes it unusable.
I'd personally go with two separate units, which would run you around the same price or even less. The X1 is useless because you have to remove the pads, and I think the lifting pads are a gimmick. They both rub against the carpet. Something like the Q5 plus and the Yeedi mop station would be good. Also Dreame's are known for the motor getting stuck.
Lifting mopping pads are not perfect especially if you have thicker carpet, but they are helpful since they do not drag wet pads across already clean floors and the do clear my rugs. I mop with them and vacuum my rugs all the time with them on and my carpets do not get wet enough to be concerned. I do not do that with my carpet in my bedrooms, but I still do not have to remove the mopping pads, just make sure they are dry. This is the first I have heard about a motor issue with Dreame. Which motor are you referring to?
@@richardsmith1161 The S7 MaxV Ultra does not dry it out of the box. You have to purchase the add on dryer module which is another 100 bucks in the US and they have been sold out.
@@richardsmith1161 seriously you are comparing Yeedi robot to Roborock? they are in a different league in terms of mopping efficiency, app support and updates and reliability. Roborock has been leading the market for years while Yeedi showed up "yesterday"
@@xeon2k8 Yes. I'm seriously comparing the Yeedi as a mop. I've had it for 6 months and it's been great with 4 large dogs constantly tracking dirt in. No problem with navigation. Yeedi is owned by Ecovacs, that has been around a long time. Personally I don't trust that self cleaning mop mechanism, a lot of parts to go wrong. At least if you have two units and one breaks it's a lot cheaper to replace.
I love my roborock s7maxv ultra. I do wish it was better on carpet. Coming from a irobot s9+. The s9 was a beast on the carpet and had dirt detection. So if it thought It was dirty. It would go back and forth a few times in that spot then continue it's job. Also if the bin got full during a run. It would go to the dock and empty. Then go back to finishing up the job. The roborock doesn't do that unfortunately.
Both of those features are not found on any other robot because iRobot has a design patent on those functions! Kinda sucks as a bunch of people ask about that.
Seriously you could not do a worst job of showing you have some sort of interest in DreamBOT L10s Ultra. The video is showing that it's doing a horrible job in mopping, and you still say it is the winner?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! They give better commission. don't they?!
I am not sure what you mean by the L10s doing a worse job mopping. It did a better job mopping than the other 2. and you can see that in the comparison video, maybe you need to look again. I do not get paid any commissions from any company. Most robots I buy myself with my own money. The only money I make is from RUclips which is hardly anything. I do these reviews to help people and many hours go into making these videos.
@@FatCatHash No robot can get the hot sauce out of the tile grout. That was my mistake putting it in the grout as I usually do not. I am only judging it coming off the tile and in the begining of the other videos you will notice I do not put it in the grout.
@@FatCatHash Please be more respectful to @jamie.andrews: He does a great job here, and is most certainly not being paid to recommend one or the other. If you look at some of the "Top" RoboVaccum "Testers" you will find out that almost none of them do as in-depth, factual and unbiased tests as Jamie here - that's why I often find reviews from smaller testers much more reliable than big "youtubers" who get their review units, plus whatnot, from the manufacturers. So please consider the channel subs, video views and the review procedure and documentation before making some out of the air accusations - I think an apology would be a nice reaction.
I gotta say I feel like this channel has potential to beat vacuum wars. Loving the content, this was very helpful.
Wow, thank you! I get a bunch of inspiration from his channel.
Thank you for your review and I really appreciate the effort you put in to help understand the differences between these robots. It is the best review I have seen and will really help me in my choice.
Thanks for your kind words Elizabeth! Glad I can help!
Your review videos are "stellar" - I knew very little about vacuuming / mopping robots until I discovered one of your videos and ultimately this channel. Previously I only had heard of Roomba's but had no idea about the sheer amount of other brands in this category. After watching your reviews and videos from others, I settled on the roborock S7 MaxV over the their newer roborock S8 model. Memorial weekend deal for $539.99 and I also opted for with additional 3 year extended warranty ($60.99) offered through Amazon, because of the 1 star reviews and malfunction complaints on pretty much all brands. Thanks for doing such an awesome job on vacuum robots; it saved me a ton of time conducting my own research. Keep it going...
Thanks so much for your support and kind words. I enjoy helping share knowledge with others and I have a passion for robots, tech and of course clean floors! Enjoy that S7 MaxV!
Update to my previous note. I did update to the Roborock S7 ultra and so glad I did. This was based on the DreameBOT L10s being too new, no data on the company, no reviews from users, no info on customer support. Even if the robot tests great, these other things matter to me. Roborock has frequent updating with new features, superior customer service, navigation to beat everyone else and I was familiar with the company because of owning the S6 Max V. The S6 robot is being sent to my daughter in another state. And have you seen the Robot kiss? If you have more than 1 robot you can go to the Ultra Settings: Pin n Go and click on the heart in the upper right. There is a hilarious paragraph explaining "the Cupid Mode". When the ultra sees another robot it comes up like a lost lover, bumps it and gives it a big kiss (with sound). Funniest thing I have ever seen!
Congrat on the S7 Ultra! I can't argue your points at all. The cupid mode is neat.
Great review! I went with the S7 MaxV Ultra a month ago and love how much it can do. The app is flawless, navigation is perfect, and it was easy to get into a routine to avoid odors in the rinse water and mop. I choose to vacuum the house first, without the mop head attached. If you have wooden floors, low pile carpet and have throw rugs on top of the carpet (as we do in our family room), it navigates the different levels easily. I then mop the whole house after adding the mop head, empty the rinse water, and toss the mop in the washer. Since most of the house is wooden floors, it does a beautiful job. There are several other good choices out there, as you have shown, and it all depends on your needs and your budget. And, by the way, you have the MOST pleasant speaking voice ever.
Glad you are pleased with the S7 Maxv Ultra. It is a great unit. I will have a new video out tomorrow comparing it to the new S8 Pro Ultra. Stop back by and check it out. You won't want to miss it!
Thanks for your kind words and support!
Hi Tony, I also have timber floors with low pile carpet runners; why do you have to do a separate mopping run? Does the S7 not detect when it's on carpet and stop mopping?
@@doubledark2 There are places in my family room where there is a very close transition from wooden floor, low pile carpet and thicker Persian throw rugs. Having three transitions in such a small place really gave the vacuum a hard time and it got stuck between the transitions. Without the mop attachment on the back, it works perfectly.
@@Dagot1948 thanks for the explanation. cheers
Dreame x10/x20 have magnetically attached pads that the robots can leave on the base when doing vacuum only runs. Unfortunately, the drive have a global version, and overcoming region lock is a big hassle.
I love Roborock S7. It’s my first Robo vacuum and mop. Doesn’t bother me to clean mop and dust bin after each use. That way I know how well it’s cleaning. I like your reviews.
I still use my original S7 daily. It is a great vacuum! Thanks for your kind words!
Thanks so much, Jamie, for getting this video out so fast! Just in time for Black Friday! I have Roborock S6 Max V which works like a charm, but have my heart set on the S7 ultra. At 85 years old, I need all the help I can get! For many years I had iRobot machines (with multiple problems) and was amazed when I got the Roborock S6. The navigation is totally amazing - not missing a spot and never getting lost. I love your comparison video and have decided to stick with Roborock and upgrade to S7 ultra - but wonder if the company has a program to return the current model and receive some type of credit toward the new model? If not, where do you offer your prior model for sale? J Cappola
Hey June! First thanks for your support! This video was in high demand and since I had all of the videos in my archive it was fairly easy to put out.
I am not aware of a trade in program with Roborock. I would sell or give to a family member (they make a great Christmas gift) or sell on Facebook Marketplace of Ebay. You will love the S7 MaxV Ultra. Big upgrade from the S6MaxV because of the dock and the lifting mopping plate.
Hope you got the ultra - I love mine it’s simply the best. My floors stay pristine even with my two dogs. Maintenance is a breeze too.
Thanks for the video, I’ve been between the ecovacs and roborock for a couple months but decided to pull the trigger on the Dreame due to the Black Friday sale. I like the spinning raising mops which I with ecovacs had and the look of the dock over the huge roborock dock. Hopefully they can fix some of the problem obstacle avoidance issues with firmware.
Also I thought I was going to have to buy all 3 to compare so thanks for saving me from doing that.
Glad I could help you sort it out. Ecovacs not having lifting mopping pads is a big deal imo. Not only can it not clear carpets, bur if you want to vacuum only you must first remove the pads. Not ideal.
@@jamie.andrews roborock has issues with pet hairs and cables, the L10s has same issues?
@@coprilettodelnapoli5466 Not as bad with pet hair pickup since it still uses bristles for the roller bush. The drawback is hair gets wrapped around that roller. The L10s can also have issues with cables. Only iRobot and Ecovacs treat cables like something it should avoid. Cables are tricky.
@Jamie Andrews I thought the dreambot had a similar brush style as the roborock and no bristles. I just ordered one so haven't had it in my hand.
@@joshainsw It does. That changed with the L10s.
Great stuff. I quite specifically searched just for that comparo.
Thank you very much for this review.... I had my heart set on the Deebot X1 Omni.... After watching this..... Im buying the L10s... Thanks for saving me £300!
Glad to help you out!
Great and thorough comparison: I might just add, based on other videos, in the "Dock" Category, that the Dreame's internal washing stations seems to be easier to clean (no mechanical small parts, just a plastic board to take out and clean up ) than the Roborock S7.
Great point! Thanks for watching!
Just picked up a refurb L10s Ultra for $409 USD off eBay last week. I don’t mind not having the latest and greatest for a steep discount. Plus, it’s already had all the necessary firmware updates to perfect its operation. I’ll probably upgrade in a year or two and grab up another refurbed end of year model and sell this one on Facebook. Seems the best method for getting the best value 😏
Love that robot. For that price it is hard to go wrong.
Roborock fan, but the Dreame balanced features and price will be the one I'll buy
Hi Jamie, great comparisons. Well packed and straight to the point. One point you've missed is the convenience of removing the mop plate in order to remove the mop cloth for changing or washing it in the laundry without having to remove the robot from the dock or flip it over, since the robot docking itself with its rear facing outward.
Some people but not me also concern about this due to privacy matter, because the camera facing outward and exposed at all times.
Indeed Roborock's dock design isn't as sleek as the other two, it looks like a printer with all the ink catridges.
For the dock design I'll give it to Dreame, hands down. It isn't as wide as the other two and just as sleek and neat as the Ecovacs' one, they are easily to wipe clean from dust compared to Roborock's as they have flat surfaces on each sides of their docks.
Good points. I appreciate you sharing these points!
@@jamie.andrews U're most welcome.
Thanks for a great review of the three moppimg robots that I'm looking at. I was leaning towards the DreameBot and after your review you sealed the deal for me.
You are very welcome! Use code L10SULTRAJA for a discount!
Thank you for the comparison!!!! Gonna buy our 1st robot vacuum this tax return 😍
Hope you enjoy it!
I would very much like to know what is the best in terms of level of cleanliness and suction, who gives the best ones on the market today?
That depends on a ton of factors like floor surface, number of pets, etc. All 3 of these are top when it comes to floor cleaning. The results in the comparison tests help highlight their differences. Some are better on carpet and others are better on hard floor surfaces.
@@jamie.andrews Who is really better at cleaning hard floors and dry stains?
@@jamie.andrews I mean all the robots on the market not just the one in the video
@@rivkamalka6791 Roborock S7 and S8 series so far.
Great comparison. I was thinking of getting the L10s but I recently saw the Dreame X10 and will be waiting for that unit since it can auto-remove the mopping pads.
The X10 does look impressive for sure! I don't blame you for wanting to wait. Thanks for the support!
I noticed the X10 as well, but I'm wondering though if it makes much of a difference, if the L10S still can do vacuum only even with the mops attached.
@@tom9380 Yes it can. So can the S7.
@@jamie.andrews Let me clarify: Do you think it makes much sense waiting for X10's mop detaching, when it really doesn't make much difference whether the mops are attached all the time or not.
@Tom I am not certain what else the X10 will do. I am likely the wrong person to ask because I have always said the mop pads need to either be removed by machine or lifted inside the belly. I normally send mine out to do carpets and then send it to mop. The pads on the L10s will drag medium pile carpet.
Now with that said that only matters when they are wet and dirty.
Great review. I have some elevated floor mats in the house on top of the hardwood... Any way of knowing which vacuum performs best going up and down between level changes and is least likely to get stuck?
Not really. Some channels test this, but honestly their tests are in a lab and do not really represent all the different shapes and aspects of the thresholds. Robots all have fairly common ground clearance since they need to be close to the flor for the vacuum to be effective. Buying a robot like Roborock that can navigate well around your home might be your best chance since it will attempt over and over to get past it in the most effective way.
Bought s7 max ultra. My goodness I’m in love
hay, One important category left out is waste disposal and maintenance . otherwisy good review .
Those are good suggestions, Thanks!
Thank you for your thorough review. I received the Roborock S7 ultra max6. And it’s perfect for my needs
Great to hear!
Hello great review!! I have buy the Dreame L10S ultra and I am very happy but I have a house with many floors and the Dreame has a problem to save my maps, I have try many times to save a ny maps but the robot can't finish the task is just ride around, I find a solution and I bring the robot and the box to second floor and then i can save a new map for the second floor. I hope tha dreame can fix this issue 👍
Hello bro may I know how is the product working right now ? Did you face any issues ?
my S7 MaxV has been amazing i've had it for a month. Just looking for a black friday deal on the Plus dock now
I have not head of the docks going on sale, but they could. Roborock's Black Friday sale is live now!
Thank you for the review! It is very helpful!
Ty!
TY for the review! The biggest dealbreaker on the dreamebot, IMO, is the lack of removable water tank that is in the robot itself. Unless there’s some way to clean it with soap and hot water, it’s inevitable that it will get moldy and gross and be spreading that onto our floors.
The X1 also has the same issue. If you mop with it frequently it should not be an issue as the tank is so small it will flush often. It is only 80ml or 2.7oz.
@@jamie.andrews thanks! Is the intake valve big enough to fit a bottle brush in them to at least scrub it that way, if necessary?
@@steve4195 No.
I think it's quite unlikely to grow mould as the tank is constantly refilled with water and detergent. The tank seems air tight too (with a valve/onboard pump) so that will help 👍🏻
@@jamie.andrews I thought it was a typo on the site and its actually 180ml on the dreame l10s ultra?
Hi Jamie! I tried to buy the Dreame L10s Ultra, does the coupon indicated in the description still work?
It looks like it stopped working. I removed it from the description until I can reach out to Dreame.
Hi Jamie, thank you for your review :) which of the Dream l10s or Roborock 7 Max Ultra robots will be better able to handle the floor service (approx. 30m2) along with its mopping? Unfortunately, they don't go up the stairs yet ;) and I'm afraid what will happen when the water runs out or the tank fills up? I especially think if l10s can wash such a surface with such a small water tank? And which of them will be better with returns from the upper floor...?
The S7 Max has more than twice the size internal water tank so it will last longer if you have a big second story. Both function the same with multi floor setup requiring you to move them between floors.
Thank you for the review, for the L10 do you have any issues with the door saddles thresholds.
Not at all.
Nice review...it would be great if you could compare Roborock S8 Ultra vs Dreame L20 Ultra vs Ecovacs Deebot X2
I plan on it!
Thanks, Jamie! I’ve been waiting for these L10s reviews. I really wanted the S7 MaxV but the ugliness was a dealbreaker. L10s it is!
Thanks! I suspect some people love or hate the S7MaxV Ultra design.
Hi Jamie. You dont have any issues with L10S Ultra that the mopping pad has been dried super quickly while it mops?
No not at all. I actually have to reduce the water output some.
GREAT detailed review and thank you for all the hard-work ... For mopping I would rate RoboRock to be a winner because the cleaning result it has provided are the best ones ... Typically people run those robots either when they are not at home in the day or during nights and are least bothered about the time it takes to get it cleaned.. What matters are the results and roborock did the best job here from quality perspective at 4:26
Thanks and I appreciate the feedback. The S7 MaxV is a great mop for sure. I do wish it had a drying system out of the box though. They have fixed that with the S8 Pro Ultra.
Love the video, very thorough. Do you have any pets?
Thanks! Yes 3 short hair cats.
Tres bon comparatif, merci
Hi man, I can't decide between the following models:
Ecovacs Deebot X1 Turbo ( 800 euros)
Ecovacs Deebot X1 Plus (700 euros)
Roborock S7+ (645 euros)
Roborock S7 MaxV Plus (790 euros)
Dreame Z10Pro (400 euros)
Ecovacs Deebot T10+ (700 euros)
ECOVACS DEEBOT T10 TURBO (700 euros)
I don't have any carpets or pets at home. It's just hardwood Floor.
What would you recommend? My budget is unfortunately not enough for Omni or Ultra (800 is really the max I can go for)
thanks a lot in advance :)
Keep up the good work!
The S7 Plus should do just fine.
Great review dude!
Hi Jamie, which one do you think is better: Roborock S7 Pro Ultra or Dreame L10 Ultra ?
Unfortunately we don't get the S7 Pro Ultra here in the states so I have not had a chance to review it.
Thank you for your video and I really appreciate, from Thailand.
My pleasure!
@@jamie.andrews I finally go to S7 MaxV Ultra + drying pad for my second robot vacuum, after reviewing all your videos relates to S7 MaxV Ultra. As I had Roborock g10 at home already, so thinking that would be better for me as these two can share accessories like mopping pad and ect. Roborock after sale service seems very reliable in my country. Thanks! again for the very useful reviews :) your have done. Really help me with my choice.
@@KhunnaiSomjeed Glad I could help!
Great review however, from someone who has one of these, take note that the mopping feature is great if you only have one floor to do. Since the robot goes back to its station to clean the mop and then continue its session (I think it does this after 15min) you will not be able to do that on another floor unless you have another station. So basically you have to bring the robot back to the floor where you have the station for it to clean the mops. Then you have to get the robot to exit the station and bring it back to the floor it was on and resume cleaning. Only problem is it wont remember where it was so it will do areas it already did. It’s not like when the there is a low battery and it goes to charge and then resume where it left off. Something to consider.
Great point. I only have a single story home and I am not able to test for these things. I will make sure to mention this in the future. Which one do you have?
@@jamie.andrews I Have the Omni X1. Another point is the 3D mapping is a real joke. It’s very difficult to place furniture on on an app. Would be great if they had a PC based version which would make it easier. I also have difficulty splitting rooms can’t seem to get it.
@@caciocavalloster 3d maps are a marketing gimmick.
Finally someone sheds light on this topic. I have the dreametech L10 ultra coming and could not find any info of easiest ways to care for multiple floors without taking the station up and down stairs.
@@TuttleCreative glad my review helped.
I read that when the L10s runs out of water in the robot's internal container, it will not go to the base to refill it, but will continue to "mop". The robot does not have a float sensor and if I do not adjust its configuration well and, for example, exceed about 25 meters in a wet configuration, the robot will probably run out of water, it will continue to mop without water (i.e. not mop), and this is not good. Does the Roborock S7 Max Ultra also have this, i.e. that it does not go alone to fill the water when it runs out? Do you know any robot that knows it's out of water and will come back to refill it?
None of the robots you mention have a sensor. You would need to have it go back to the dock more frequently to have the tank topped off.
Nice comparison. The ranked scoring does not take into consideration what will be deal breakers for many if not most.
The Ecovacs will not autonomously switch between vacuuming and moping, it takes human interaction to remove/add the mop pads. Is this the does for the BreamBOT? Disappointed this wasn‘t talked about in the comparison.
The Ecovacs not cleaning the mop well enough is a dealbreaker for those who plan to mop routinely.
Thanks, I attempted to point out potential deal breakers, but what might be a deal breaker for some may not be for other people. It is pretty subjective.
I scored the Ecovacs X1 OMNI in 3rd place in the Hardware category 01:28 and mentioned it was in 3rd place because it does not have the lifting mopping pad system, but you are right one extra thing that makes it bad is you have to remove the mopping pads before you vacuum. You do not have to remove the mopping pads for the DreameBOT.
I think you meant the DreameBOT not cleaning the mopping pads would be a deal breaker for some. This is why it scored at 08:02 the DreameBOT in 3rd place is because it did not do well cleaning the mopping pads. To be a bit fair here not of them will clean them each and every time perfectly. Occasionally you will need to remove and hand wash each mopping pads by hand. The docks do not have a way to ring out the old dirty water which is important.
Once final note there are more in-depth reviews for each robot where I go into full pros and cons for each. The links are in the description.
Hello Jamie, good evening. I would like to ask a question. You who did several tests with the roborock s7 and s7 maxv, could you kindly tell me which one would you choose? Does the cleaning efficiency of both have a difference? Does the 5100pa of the maxv make a difference in cleaning? Thank you very much in advance for the feedback!
That is a great idea for a future video! Get the MaxV if you value object avoidance and / or the ability to use the Ultra dock aka Empty Wash Fill Dock. Otherwise get the S7.
@@jamie.andrews Thanks a lot for the feedback. A video of you talking about this would be great. I will wait anxiously
Hey Jamie do you think the roborock is better than the ecovacs even though I would have to remove the mops on both because my carpets are too high? I noticed the ecovacs is much quieter vs the roborock in their max modes and the object avoidance seems to be a little better on the ecovacs especially with stretched out cables which I wish the roborock did better with.
Plus I think the ecovacs looks a lot nicer aesthetically speaking.
Is the roborock still a lot better in your opinion with high pile carpets assuming they're about the same price?
Hey Travis!
The bonus with the Roborock is you can vacuum carpet with the dry mop attached and then mop and vacuum your floors which allows you to keep the pad on the robot at all times. Unfortunately, on the Ecovacs you must remove the pads to vacuum on carpet. There is really no way around that since they don't lift at all you can't cross carpet with them unless they are wet.
Object avoidance is a bit better on Ecovacs.
Mopping performance on Roborock is better.
Looks is really subjective. Heck most of this stuff I talk about is subjective.
Keep me posted as to what you do and if you need more help just reply.
@@jamie.andrews thanks for the reply!
So my carpet is too high for the roborock so for either model I'm going to have to remove the mops to vacuum my carpets so that's not a deciding factor for me.
I have noticed that the ecovacs app and navigation is buggier than the roborock but just as you stated the ecovacs avoids cables which is really nice for me.
I like both and it's a tough decision as I like both but being that the mop has to be removed on both for me would you still recommend the roborock over the ecovacs?
I thought about trying the dreametech as well but it turned me off about the mop pad center not being totally cleaned.
@Travis May I am not sure if I understand why you would need to remove the mopping pad on the Roborock with thick carpet? It can drag a dry pad over thick carpet which is what I do on my thick carpets. I have your same issue btw and I always leave my Roborock and Dreame L10S pads on. You can choose vaccum only with the L10s and the S7 and the pads stay dry. You only get vacuum only mode on the X10 when you physically remove the pads.
The Ecovacs navigation is buggy at times, but I am not sure I would consider it a deal breaker.
I continue to use the Roborock and the Dreame in my home. The Ecovacs has been decommissioned to allow for future robort reviews.
I can really recommend all 3 robots and what is my favorite is not always the favorite of others so I try not to sway people one way or the other and just provide some end user experience.
I would also not discount Dreame so fast. Sure that is a flaw with the pads, however I recommend hand washing them on all of these robots every so often.
CES is also right around the corner, and I can tell you some awesome vacuums are hitting the market soon. Might wanna wait some if you can. The perfect one may be around the corner.
@@jamie.andrews thanks again for the reply and thank you for reviewing these units I don't mind if you try to sway my decision as I'm sure you have more experience with these units than I do.
While I don't mind removing the pads on the x1 omni I didn't realize that it was normal to leave the mop pad on the s7 maxv with medium to high pile carpet. I figured it wasn't sanitary to leave the mop dragging on the carpet during the vacuum cycle and not sure if I was just being weird or too anal about it. If that's what people usually do then that is a game changer. I just figured most people that left the mop on 24/7 had low pile carpets.
I did also consider just returning and waiting to see what new products roborock and ecovacs come out with since it is getting close.
Have you heard any rumors about new robots coming soon?
Thanks for review. One question - how does corner and edge cleaning compare?
Welcome! That is one test I do not perform. It relies entirely on the side brush and is not effective at all for carpets since the brush roller is inboard a few inches. My answer is always that these are maintenance robots and you should still fully mop and vacuum (with upright etc) and use the robots in between. For hard floors the Dyad makes easy work of edge cleaning.
As far as mopping is concerned, I heard the x1 has a special mopping mode where it passes close to the wall with the side where the pads extend past its housing, so that there's little to no unwashed floor left. But this doesn't appear to be a deal-maker for me
Excellent comparison Jamie! Thank you! :^)
Thanks Sarge! This was requested many times!
Does the smaller onboard water tank of the L10s limit how much it can mop on an outing compared to the S7 MaxV? I have a 2000sqft house that is about 60% hardwood, 40% low pile carpet. Would like to regularly have the hardwood mopped. Thanks! Great video
Thanks! You can set it to go back to the dock as soon as every 10 minutes to have the pads washed and water tank refilled. That is plenty and has not been an issue for me.
@@jamie.andrews great info, thanks! Ordered the L10s. Excited!
Great video
Which is the best at climbing transitions please?
I have a 2mm transition from the living room hard floor to the kitchen tiles and my old LG Roboking can't handle climbing it
I'm still holding out for the LS10 Ultra to be released in Australia but no response from Dreametech yet
Apparently it was released before the Ecovacs and Roborock in China and the L10S Ultra can even can be connected to a mains water tap
Thanks!
Both the S7 MaxV and the L10s are listed at 2cm and the X1 is listed at 1.8cm.
@@jamie.andrews thanks for the fast response
Yes I meant 2cm not 2mm🤭
I want to take advantage of the Black Friday sales as prices are so expensive in Australia
Ecovacs has knocked aud$1k off so now it costs aud$2k
Not sure if I should wait for the L10S Ultra or not
My old discontinued LG Roboking's battery is on its last legs
@@jamie.andrews Dreamtech finally released the L10S Ultra in Australia, however its cost is AUD$2599 which is a lot more than I expected.
(Australian prices are usually double US prices, so I expected the cost to be AUD$2000. The X1 Omni is currently reduced to AUD$2499 and the S7 MaxV Ultra is AUD$2999 with the optional mop heater included.)
I'm waiting for a sale or for the price to drop.
Hold out for the S8 Pro Ultra too. Mine arrives Friday. Video out soon!
The L10s Ultra is on sale these days for ~1000, and I like the ability to dry the mopping pads, and their cleaning solution.. solution! Have you tried using your own in the cartridge after it was empty? SO close to pulling the trigger, and upgrade from my S5 Max! :) Cheers
I have not tried using my own yet. I will though and hopefully release an update video. I did already order a 3 pack of the solution.
Can you please compare Roborock s7 max ultra new one and Dreame L10S ultra
I have compared the Q Revo to the L10s which is similar to the S7 Max Ultra, but honestly a better robot to direct compare to the L10s based on price and features.
Take a look ruclips.net/video/iPtqfMa7bz4/видео.html
Thank you for the review, that went quick 👍🏽 But now I'm even more confused on which one to choose 😁 Roborocks or Dreame. The app is to buggy on ecovacs. I really liked the Roborocks software/app and navigation. But the vibrating and lifting feature seems like a week link, something that might break to early.
Lol glad I could help confuse you! I run the Roborock Reddit and have not seen people having issues with the mopping system. It is the same one on the original S7 which appears to still be going strong.
@Zeb Zeb
Dont't you know L10s Ultra also can lift its mop pad?
The only additional moving part from Roborock compared to Dreame is on the self washing mop pad.
@@jonnylee8538 yes I know. But they have different solutions on the mechanics.
From what I've seen on the reviews, while the dreame leaves centers of mop pads dirty, s7 has a similar problem with dirt left along the long side of the pad. Also, their cleaning system on the dock is harder to manually clean, and I would assume more prone to malfunction with time.
Have you noticed the mop pads on Roborock s7 maxv dry out after 10 minutes or so and causing dry streaks? Do you see this issue as well on l10s ultra?
No I have not noticed that with the S7 or the L10s
Lo tengo hace unas semanas y me encanta ,navega limpia y friega muy muy bien ,tuve el problema de carga de agua en el depósito interno al principio haciendo la auto reparación se solucionó ,hace una semana empezó a fallar en la subida a la base una rueda resbalaba ,debido al calor de las mopas la rampa se ha dilatado 2milimetros y eso hace que resbale poniendo cinta en el suelo para que la rueda no resbale está resuelto pero por lo demás 😂va muy muy bien supongo que es muy nueva ,aún tienen que pulir muchos fallos ,ya me contarás si con el paso de los días también te pasa lo de la rampa ya que no soi el único que le ha pasado por lo que veo quizás sea general el problema
I have not had the problem with the ramp, but I have read where several users have had the problem with water not coming out.
Does the Dreambot raise it’s mopping pads over carpet like the Roborock?
Yes it does.See my full review of the L10s Ultra here ruclips.net/video/seywdUiGS_s/видео.html
Your voice makes it more interesting
Thanks for the review. I was a surprised about the lack of cable avoidance, since several reviewers have stated it does very well going around cords. I wonder if it has anything to do with which app you choose to use or if there are firmware updates that were missing. This is a big deal for me, but I am glad some other reviews show this working. Weird. Thanks again!!! :)
A lot of other reviewers use a cord in a bundle when testing. They do this to make the robot look good. I don't need it to avoid bundles of cords I need it to avoid stray cords. The X1 Omni avoids it in my test so I would be suspicious about other reviewers. The firmware is up to date on the robot and is 4.3.3_1125.
I do plan to test with the Dreame app, but I doubt it will make it avoid cords as the firmware is what controls that and not the app software. I really appreciate the info and I will definitely continue to test and keep everyone posted if it improves!
@@jamie.andrews Thanks for the reply and again for the video. Good point. If I do end up getting one, I will definitely be testing this. Obstacle avoidance is very high on my priority list, so I am a bit nervous about the L10S now. sigh.
@@jamie.andrews any updated on chord avoidance with newer firmware as of April 2023
@@TuttleCreative which robot?
@@jamie.andrews L10s ultra
Hello where Are the better plads for reebot buy?
I did a video on the better pads you may want to look at. The link to buy the pads is in the description of that video and there are 2 choices.
ruclips.net/video/Owk05qp5xrs/видео.html
Hi, which is better at night and less noisy?
They all have a "do not disturb" mode, but I do not actually have an answer as I do not test for the lowest sound. Maybe I should!
@@jamie.andrews I bought and checked over the weekend - both make similar noise. White slightly less and better at avoiding obstacles in the dark (I'm very surprised). I choose Dreame. Regards.
@@krzysztof4051 Thanks for sharing!
cant decide what one to get my parents for charismas. only what the best if you could only have one what one would it be .. need help
If it were for my parents maybe the S7 MaxV Ultra because it is so easy to use.
Where do you find the replacement pads
Amazon.com
How much area does the dreame L10s mop with one full water tank?
If I recall it is 2200 square feet, but keep in mind you can send it back to the dock as soon as every 10 minutes to have the mopping pads cleaned as well.
@@jamie.andrews thank you for your suggestion.
90% of cat litter picked up is terrible! Good job on the Dreame vs the other 2
Nice, thanks!
Great review. I've ordered the L10 thanks to this review!
Thanks!
I’m about to order now 😊
Could you share your experience with the product please
Excellent video
Thank you very much!
Sweet! Maybe you should get cheaper robots with these all-in-one docks, like the Roidmi EVA for less than 1000 dollars, but missing Obstacle Avoidance. When is the combo j7 review coming?
The problem with the offbrand cheaper ones is they don't really get many views.
It will be before Christmas. I am taking some time with the family and on vacation all this week.
Take care my friend!
@@jamie.andrews I see.
You too! Happy Thanksgiving!
If it does not suck everything out of the dust bin, try doing the emptying cycle again.
Just returned my bot (L10s ultra) and got a new one. Still the same problem. No water coming out of the tank. Neither to the robot or the base station for cleaning. Water tank filled to max. Don't get it 🤷🏼♂️
Something is not right for sure. Does it attempt to start washing the mopping pads at the beginning? It should say it is washing the mopping pads prior to going out for a mopping. Also can you confirm the Cleaning Mode is set to Sweeping and Mopping? Also make sure you do not have No Mop Zones setup.
@@jamie.andrews Yep, all set as supposed to. Even if not, water should be filled on the bottom plate of the base when long press the home button.
Anyway, now it seems to work. Seems like it had problems sucking upp water from the tank due to air in the pipes. After couple of atemps it started to spit out water on the bottom of the base. So now the robot mops.
@@Sailor_Zeb Glad it is working. I have seen that happen before, but it did not happen to my L10s. I figured you had to know what you are doing since you had other Ultra robot vacuums. I am glad you got it sorted out!
@@Sailor_Zeb In these cases, I think you can hold a button on the dock/base that should spill out water to the dock's cleaning area. Press it a few times until water appears.
Where did you see a drier for the Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra?
Do you mean where you buy it? Direct from Roborock. Take a look at my review here ruclips.net/video/NcRQJTsnh1s/видео.html
@@jamie.andrews Unfortunately, it's out of stock.
@@vernearase3044 sadly it usually is.
Hi Jamie, can s7max v drain dirty water also?
It drains it into the dirty water tank.
@@jamie.andrews Then I have to clean dirty water tank.But if u guys pls request robot company to introduce full auto system so that we have no need to tatch except swise on.
@@jamie.andrews Means dishwasher type system
@@fahmidaafrose2525 Are you referring to a system that hooks up to your plumbing in you home?
@@jamie.andrews Yes Exactly, fully auto,like dishwash machine
In your revies of Roborock S7 and DreamBOT L10s the first one got 125 and the second one only 119 grams out of whole 130grams of cat litter, here the S7 did much worse? Why is that? Maybe because DremBOT isbrand new and Roborock more than a year older? I think that would be not fair
The Dreame has more suction in the vacuum motor than the other 2 which h is likely what helped it. The L10s is the newest to market.
How did you find Samsung robot?
I have not tested that one yet.
THANK YOU
u r the best
i feel like the L10 S is the better machine, but i just cant decide if Roborocks software and remote control function is worth it to go with S7, i like the security features
The L10s is suppose to have the remote viewing feature although it is not there in the MI Home app. It might be only for the Dreamehome app. I have never had an issue with the Dreame software although you get more options and features with Roborock.
@@jamie.andrews it sounds like you prefer the Roborock?
@@Jacksonzole57 I prefer some things over the Dreame, but it is hard to argue with the excellent cleaning ability of the L10s and I am a huge fan of the premix solution, but others might not. I really try not to recommend a particular product on my channel, but instead show the strengths and weaknesses and let the viewers decide. What I might like others may not care about.
@@jamie.andrews I wanna know what u like better, which one will u use the most
@@Jacksonzole57 he wont answer your question because he wants to stay neutral so im going to do it instead, I am going to buy the Dreame vacuum.
Would get the dreamebot if it were bagless. Going for s7 maxv
Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra owner. I personally think it's the ultimate when it comes to hands off cleaning. I definitely think it's not the best looking of the 3. But the fact you can just leave the mop on and it can lift the mop and vacuum without you having to take the mop off or on its a huge plus. I havent had to touch my vacuum or mop since I got it
ruclips.net/video/2J4cULRBFMg/видео.html
Yea the X1 Omni not having a lifting mopping is a big disadvantage against the other 2 for sure.
The s7 with dryer is $3000 in Australia. That’s nearly 2k US. I’ve had my heart set on it. However the dreame ticks all the boxes…. I’m worried the support for dreame is much less. It seems much harder to find and buy here.
2k is a bit nuts! I have used Dreame support before and it was fine, but that was also a different market too.
@@jamie.andrews thanks. Your videos have been invaluable in trying to make a decision. I think the dreame would be best value for money by far. But it looks impossible to get in Australia without importing of some kind…. My original Neato with LiDAR was bought this way. But it leaves you high and dry when things don’t work.
The max v ultra with dryer is currently on sale for $2600 Au. But that’s an incredibly hard pill to swallow.
Considering the deebot N8 are on sale 60% off - going for $400. I could have 5 of them for the price of one max V… sure - not the same features but. $2200 less.
@@ibsn87 I am glad to hear that my videos have helped you. Ecovacs are not horrible by any means. They are very popular here in the US. Cheers!
I've been waiting for the Dreametech L10S Ultra to be released in Australia for months
No response from Dreametech yet
Unfortunately shipping and "Australia tax" means double the price for most items
Unfortunately Dreametech Australia has just released the W10 so it could be a bit of a wait until they release the L10S Ultra in Australia (if they release it ever)
I'm kinda sick of waiting tbh
The Ecovac x1 Omni does have cleaning solution available it was released this week so a few days after this video came out. Also seems like you on your value comparison and dock comparison you keep forgetting the fact that the dryer on s7 max is more money. In both cases to match the others it costs more and is an attachment it should make the s7 max drop to third in those cases. Also seems that the navigation category should consider obstacle avoidance. The Ecovac likely does the patterns you don't like because of what it is seeing and avoid. The other two have avoidance issues which is why their navigation may appear more direct.
Good to know about the cleaning solution finally being released. I still wish they along with RR would include some in the box though.
The value category is based on what you get for the money spent (MSRP.) The reason I scored the S7 MaxV is in second place is because you have to spend more than the L10s ($1399) to get cleaning solution and the dryer attachment. The reason the S7 MaxV is not third is because the Ecovacs does not have a lifting mopping system and it requires you to remove the mopping pads by hand if you only want to vacuum plus according to my calculations it does retail for more than the other 2. You see if you buy the S7 MaxV Ultra with the dock dryer module you would spend right at $1500 retail ($1399 + $99) and the retail of the Ecovacs X1 OMNI is still more at $1549.99. Neither the S7 MaxV or the X1 OMNI include cleaning solution in the box.
Since I have a category dedicated to obstacle avoidance 05:35 I did not include it in navigation category even though they could be considered similar I kept them separate since some people disable obstacle avoidance due to privacy concerns with the cameras. This way we can only judge their ability to navigate via lidar.
I have tested the Ecovacs with and without object avoidance enabled (I do this with all robots that have the feature) and the navigations is still a bit inefficient. None of these have horrible navigation though, but Roborock is consistently top notch.
its easy to decide for me..u know
in my country
S7maxVultra 900 US
Dreamebot new release 1160 US😆
In some countries the Dreame is more expensive.
I will choose Roborock😊
Which one do you use all the time in your home
Prior to the L10s it was the S7 MaxV. Now I am using the L10s. Great question!
Did u get insurance
@@chellealexander8633 Not sure what you mean by insurance? Insurance for a robot vacuum?
Yes
@@chellealexander8633 No, I have not heard of insurance for a robot vacuum. Is that in case it were to get accidentally damaged? I have seen where you can buy an extended warranty though.
You looks like Jurgen Klopp😂
I bought both the X1 Omni and the S7 MaxV Ultra at launch, and have exclusively used the Roborock since receiving it. I got a refund for my X1, but didn't have to send it back so I've still got it, too lol. It sits in the corner, neglected as it deserves to be.
The X1 mopping performance was atrocious out of the box. Got replacement plates from Ecovacs, which made it at least functional, but RR was still better.
My other major complaint is, as you mentioned, the Ecovacs app is hot garbage. RR has always just worked.
Thanks for the reviews & comparisons. I'm really interested to see this tech continue to improve, and another competitor on the market will only help drive innovation.
lol best summary about these 2 robots i have read in a while
Yea Zack I am getting ready to decommission the X1 OMNI in my house. I turned the voice assistant off because it would randomly respond to the TV or us talking (but hardly ever when I really needed it to) and even after turning it off it appears it still listens as it will now tell me that the assistant is off and please turn it on if I want to use it. How dumb is this? The lack of lifting mopping plates is the major reason it is not going to continue to be used in my home.
I too love the tech and am eager to see what CES has to offer this year. Have a good one Zack!
Dreame l10s ultra just arrived today... :)
Time to start mapping!
Made the mistake of getting the X1 Omni. Returning it now in place of the S7. The app is truly awful. Obstacle avoidance is great and it cleans well but the app makes it unusable.
Yea I hope they improve the app soon!
I'd personally go with two separate units, which would run you around the same price or even less. The X1 is useless because you have to remove the pads, and I think the lifting pads are a gimmick. They both rub against the carpet. Something like the Q5 plus and the Yeedi mop station would be good. Also Dreame's are known for the motor getting stuck.
Lifting mopping pads are not perfect especially if you have thicker carpet, but they are helpful since they do not drag wet pads across already clean floors and the do clear my rugs. I mop with them and vacuum my rugs all the time with them on and my carpets do not get wet enough to be concerned. I do not do that with my carpet in my bedrooms, but I still do not have to remove the mopping pads, just make sure they are dry.
This is the first I have heard about a motor issue with Dreame. Which motor are you referring to?
@@jamie.andrews Does the Roborock dry the pads also (should be on sale for $1049 tomorrow)? It's the vacuum more on the z10 that gets stuck?
@@richardsmith1161 The S7 MaxV Ultra does not dry it out of the box. You have to purchase the add on dryer module which is another 100 bucks in the US and they have been sold out.
@@richardsmith1161 seriously you are comparing Yeedi robot to Roborock? they are in a different league in terms of mopping efficiency, app support and updates and reliability. Roborock has been leading the market for years while Yeedi showed up "yesterday"
@@xeon2k8 Yes. I'm seriously comparing the Yeedi as a mop. I've had it for 6 months and it's been great with 4 large dogs constantly tracking dirt in. No problem with navigation. Yeedi is owned by Ecovacs, that has been around a long time. Personally I don't trust that self cleaning mop mechanism, a lot of parts to go wrong. At least if you have two units and one breaks it's a lot cheaper to replace.
Ecovacs girl all the way.
🚀🚀🦅🦅🚀🚀
So the S7 lost due to appearance? Loool
No
I love my roborock s7maxv ultra. I do wish it was better on carpet. Coming from a irobot s9+. The s9 was a beast on the carpet and had dirt detection. So if it thought It was dirty. It would go back and forth a few times in that spot then continue it's job. Also if the bin got full during a run. It would go to the dock and empty. Then go back to finishing up the job. The roborock doesn't do that unfortunately.
Both of those features are not found on any other robot because iRobot has a design patent on those functions! Kinda sucks as a bunch of people ask about that.
You sound like Tim Cook
I hear that often!
Sounds more like Jim Gaffigan
@Dylan Fox LOL I have heard that before too!
What do we really care if it looks like a trash can, you know it’s not!
Some people see it differently.
Seriously you could not do a worst job of showing you have some sort of interest in DreamBOT L10s Ultra. The video is showing that it's doing a horrible job in mopping, and you still say it is the winner?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! They give better commission. don't they?!
I am not sure what you mean by the L10s doing a worse job mopping. It did a better job mopping than the other 2. and you can see that in the comparison video, maybe you need to look again.
I do not get paid any commissions from any company.
Most robots I buy myself with my own money. The only money I make is from RUclips which is hardly anything.
I do these reviews to help people and many hours go into making these videos.
Lol the photo of the mopped floor that the S7 did even had some hot sauce left in the crevasses. You must have vision issues.
@@FatCatHash No robot can get the hot sauce out of the tile grout. That was my mistake putting it in the grout as I usually do not. I am only judging it coming off the tile and in the begining of the other videos you will notice I do not put it in the grout.
@@FatCatHash Please be more respectful to @jamie.andrews: He does a great job here, and is most certainly not being paid to recommend one or the other. If you look at some of the "Top" RoboVaccum "Testers" you will find out that almost none of them do as in-depth, factual and unbiased tests as Jamie here - that's why I often find reviews from smaller testers much more reliable than big "youtubers" who get their review units, plus whatnot, from the manufacturers. So please consider the channel subs, video views and the review procedure and documentation before making some out of the air accusations - I think an apology would be a nice reaction.
@@tom9380 my comment was directed at the original comment (shibaak) and not at jamie.