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Great demonstration on how to rig for releasable. Love your teaching style, plus you mention the need of soft skills to talk the client through. So many of the outdoor guides I worked with don’t remember how scary the first time is. They have the technical rope skills but are sorely lacking in the soft skills department. keep it up 😊
Leaving the long loop is a great tip. I learned at a scout leader training, once you've tied off the safety, whelst stood on the end where the rope will run, depending on if the climber is able to sort the issue. you can lift the tight safety rope to lift them a bit and get a strap or finger out, obviously they can't weigh too much, but kids don't tend to, It's much easier if your people can understand the issue and need just enough slack to sort it. Obviously you don't wanna drop them again, but worth considering
I'd be very surprised to hear of anyone you've instructed failing assessments. Your way of communicating, addressing, and presenting information isn't like an instructor/pupil way, it's more a mate showing a mate type of process. That makes everyone feel more comfortable, confident, and at ease.
I’ve had an abseiler with their hair stuck in the fig 8. Releasable abseil came into its own. They didn’t appreciate the suggestion that we used a pair of scissors. 😂
Abseiler stuck on a ledge. 1) Talk them into continuing; 2) have them climb back up with the Italian Hitch belay; or 3) Counter-balance abseil down to them and involuntarily bring them down to the bottom.
Jez, whenever I click these “retrievable / releasable” abseils videos, I always expect something along the lines of “how to abseil without loosing gear / makeshift abseil anchor setups” - here’s a video suggestion 🙏
A retrievable absseil is a compleatly different thing to a releasable abseil. this is a great vid on releasable abseil which is used for groups but check out his vid on retrievable abseils which is used for long abs in trad and sport climbing.
@@stevebower1393 Thanks for the clarification. As an old-timer, my idea of a 'releasable' abseil was when I abseiled off from under the roof of Dwm (Castell Cidwm) in a thunder/hail storm using the rope threaded through a rusty piton! ;-)
Hey mate - your videos are excellent - really help a lot and much appreciated - they must take a lot of time to put together. Quick question - what is the name of your adjustable orange Petzyl lanyard?
re 15:45 Usually 2 directions to go: down or up; 1) You can use the yellow midpoint for a short rap, or fix the yellow end for a long rap, picking them off for a ride down. (gear recovery will be a pain.) 2) You are almost rigged for a crevasse rescue haul. re 17:20 I always make a point of "first time, without exposure" (so they can focus on the body sensation of being unable to 'fall' or to make the belay or rap system fail).
I don't like the "slippery hitch", I think the munter mule overhand is cleaner and easier to tie when the munter hitch is under load. Another clean method: You can clip carabiner from the back up rop in the big eye of the figure of eight. And if the back up rope is exactly the length of the abseil you don't have to pull up the rope for the next person, just tie and figure of eight in both ends and of you go. I'm sure you all know this stuff, just telling for other people ;)
@@petrpacas The difference is that you twist the loose rope so there is a loop in it, then you put the bight through the loop, that way it's actually a better hitch it stays better in place. If you search for munter mule you will see the difference.
How do you back up a 8 rappel device with a prusick? I have never seen a rappel with an 8 extended, so not sure how you could avoid possible contact of 8 with prusick
Two options are: 1. Extend the fig 8, works fine, prusik on belay loop. 2. Put prusik on leg loop, keep the prusik short. I’d prefer option 1, but wouldn’t really use a fig 8 on anything but a taster session.
My brother encountered a guide on the Hornli ridge of the Matterhorn whose client didn't want to climb down one of the fixed ropes, so the guide pushed him off the ledge and lowered him to the next easy ground.🤦♂️ Not so easy if the client/student isn't on the same ledge as you of course, and not recommended if you want to keep them interested in mountaineering or rock climbing, or giving you a five star rating.
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Great demonstration on how to rig for releasable.
Love your teaching style, plus you mention the need of soft skills to talk the client through.
So many of the outdoor guides I worked with don’t remember how scary the first time is.
They have the technical rope skills but are sorely lacking in the soft skills department.
keep it up 😊
Thanks for the kind words!
Dude just found your channel! Love it bro great info! I'm deep diving in older videos. Thanks brother 🙏
Leaving the long loop is a great tip. I learned at a scout leader training, once you've tied off the safety, whelst stood on the end where the rope will run, depending on if the climber is able to sort the issue. you can lift the tight safety rope to lift them a bit and get a strap or finger out, obviously they can't weigh too much, but kids don't tend to, It's much easier if your people can understand the issue and need just enough slack to sort it. Obviously you don't wanna drop them again, but worth considering
Good tip with the smaller ones, certainly a nice quick way to sort a problem out :)
I'd be very surprised to hear of anyone you've instructed failing assessments. Your way of communicating, addressing, and presenting information isn't like an instructor/pupil way, it's more a mate showing a mate type of process. That makes everyone feel more comfortable, confident, and at ease.
Thanks for the kind words :)
I’ve had an abseiler with their hair stuck in the fig 8. Releasable abseil came into its own. They didn’t appreciate the suggestion that we used a pair of scissors. 😂
When I used to run a lot of taster sessions I'd say "Tie your hair back, or you'll get a free haircut!"
Abseiler stuck on a ledge. 1) Talk them into continuing; 2) have them climb back up with the Italian Hitch belay; or 3) Counter-balance abseil down to them and involuntarily bring them down to the bottom.
Haha kicking and screaming. I love it.
Thank you!
Jez, whenever I click these “retrievable / releasable” abseils videos, I always expect something along the lines of “how to abseil without loosing gear / makeshift abseil anchor setups” - here’s a video suggestion 🙏
I'll give that one some thought :)
A retrievable absseil is a compleatly different thing to a releasable abseil. this is a great vid on releasable abseil which is used for groups but check out his vid on retrievable abseils which is used for long abs in trad and sport climbing.
@@stevebower1393 Thanks for the clarification. As an old-timer, my idea of a 'releasable' abseil was when I abseiled off from under the roof of Dwm (Castell Cidwm) in a thunder/hail storm using the rope threaded through a rusty piton! ;-)
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Ledges - try to avoid setting an abseil in that place. If you can’t avoid it, is it about the brief you give the client?
Hey mate - your videos are excellent - really help a lot and much appreciated - they must take a lot of time to put together.
Quick question - what is the name of your adjustable orange Petzyl lanyard?
It’s a Connect Adjust...available single or double.
Glad you like 'em :)
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re 15:45 Usually 2 directions to go: down or up;
1) You can use the yellow midpoint for a short rap, or fix the yellow end for a long rap, picking them off for a ride down. (gear recovery will be a pain.)
2) You are almost rigged for a crevasse rescue haul.
re 17:20 I always make a point of "first time, without exposure" (so they can focus on the body sensation of being unable to 'fall' or to make the belay or rap system fail).
I don't like the "slippery hitch", I think the munter mule overhand is cleaner and easier to tie when the munter hitch is under load. Another clean method: You can clip carabiner from the back up rop in the big eye of the figure of eight. And if the back up rope is exactly the length of the abseil you don't have to pull up the rope for the next person, just tie and figure of eight in both ends and of you go. I'm sure you all know this stuff, just telling for other people ;)
Isn’t it the same thing? Slippery ~~ Mule
@@petrpacas The difference is that you twist the loose rope so there is a loop in it, then you put the bight through the loop, that way it's actually a better hitch it stays better in place. If you search for munter mule you will see the difference.
How do you back up a 8 rappel device with a prusick? I have never seen a rappel with an 8 extended, so not sure how you could avoid possible contact of 8 with prusick
Two options are:
1. Extend the fig 8, works fine, prusik on belay loop.
2. Put prusik on leg loop, keep the prusik short.
I’d prefer option 1, but wouldn’t really use a fig 8 on anything but a taster session.
My brother encountered a guide on the Hornli ridge of the Matterhorn whose client didn't want to climb down one of the fixed ropes, so the guide pushed him off the ledge and lowered him to the next easy ground.🤦♂️ Not so easy if the client/student isn't on the same ledge as you of course, and not recommended if you want to keep them interested in mountaineering or rock climbing, or giving you a five star rating.
Well it works... but like you say, not likely to get much repeat business!
How can you extended the belay so you are closer to the cliff and see the abseiler
Simple, just tie the master point where you want it
What length of rope do you use for a rigging rope?
Depends on location really. 30m would normally do for most rigging situations though.
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