Lucioball Is Broken
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- Опубликовано: 2 янв 2025
- For years this game mode has been broken, even worse with the release in Overwatch 2. Why? I'll tell you everything, and ways you can work around it; even though there isn't much.
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I have such a love hate relationship with this game mode. I grinded the hell out of it, peaked at around top 20 mostly solo queue as a striker, aiming to go for number 1, but then 2020 came and shut that down completely. I still really like this game mode, but it's just unplayable.
Summer Games 2023. I didn't plan to make any type of video, I was working on other projects. After a day or two, I decided to play one game of Lucioball. Dear god, I got so unbelievably frustrated. I kept getting spawned in goal and I just could not do a single thing, nobody really understands this as much as I do; Sure, I can tell them: "I got 70 ping, I can't do anything" but in no way they will understand, why would they? To them, I'm just blaming lag, and that's kinda silly. I still won the game, but I left it really unhappy. Silently frustrated for about a day, I said screw it, I'm gonna make a video about it. Made out of spite, I still think it came out pretty good. Massive improvement from making a video in 7 months, this one took me less than 7 days!
Now with that out of the way, I can only hope you enjoy the video! :)
good video and a genius solution!
my theory regarding the stationary ball at 0:25 is once the ball becomes motionless, it falls asleep and stops simulating physics (ordinary props in other maps exhibit this behavior -- you can even make props fall asleep in mid-air). conceptually, there's nothing wrong with this system. the problem is that soundwave seemingly does not send an impulse to re-awaken the ball, so the only way to make the ball move is with a melee attack or a physical touch.
Glad you enjoyed! :D
Makes sense, I haven't messed around with props in the normal game so that's good to know. Melee usually doesn't awaken the ball either though, you mostly had to walk into it to make it work again. There's also rare moments where it doesn't work for a few hits but then suddenly starts working even if you don't bump into it. It's odd.
OH MY GOD, YES, THANK YOU, This happens ALL THE TIME
Hopefully it gave you some insight ^^
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The phantom ball thing makes so much sense omg
I miss the phantom ball, it is really offsynced these days lol
5:14 This is me thinking about all my life choices and decisions I have made and what brought me to this point
damn
2:10 while me playing at a consistent +80(150on average) i kinda mentally realized this but hearing it feels different
Now you know!
He is back, the legend, the myth, the Carrier!
Carrier has arrived.
IVE LITERALLY BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS ITS BROKEN AND DOESNT WORK AND ALL I GET IS "GIT GUD" ILYSM FOR MAKING THIS!!!
One too many times it has happened to me, which led to this haha
I remember the first year working great.
But then the no-regs began, even when I was down to around 23 ping.
It's basically the reason I gave up on that mode. I really don't like inconsistencies like that, when it has such a big impact on the games win/loss.
Even in the case of just having to delay your shot, if your ping fluctuates a lot or sometimes spike you basically have to guess when to boop.
Playing as a goalie it can be especially frustrating as you are very often dealing with fast-moving balls coming straight at you and missing will cost you a point to the opponent team.
I think my sulution at the time was to both boop and punch with a slight delay in between, to increase the odds of it actually registering the hit, but it was still annoying and wouldn't always work.
As I never played the mode since the first few years, It's hard for me to imagine how bad it feels now.
I remember year 1; I really liked to play Goalie, it was my best position; extremely rarely I would let through any shots. As time went on I moved on to being a Striker cause I wasn't as good anymore. Back then, I had no idea, but these days I know - for some reason back then I had 50~ ping or less, upcoming years I averaged like 90 for some reason.
Everything went more or less great until 2020 when it just completely broke. My friend has around 35~ ping and the ball sometimes no-regs, but for me it just never hits at all.
I could still solo trickshot as a Striker and stuff and sometimes make it work but anything requiring interceptions like being a Goalie and/or trying to counter-boop at any point just doesn't work at all; which for high level play is basically 100% required. I completely gave up trying to play competitively, when back then even if I had a disadvantage I could still overpower everyone in theory, but these days the handicap is so large that even if I play like a top 1 player I'll probably get beaten by diamonds or something. It's not fun anymore, just pure annoyance.
The punch after booping used to be a common strategy(probably still is, its just boop cooldown is so tiny now), especially for those needed to counter-boop or something like that. If they counter your counter, you have another chance. It also can definitely be used just in case you miss(or no-reg) your boop, just to be safe, but yeah, it didn't always work.
It's pretty bad these days. My friend reports the boops not registering more often this year, his latency is more or less the same. I climbed to around top 20 somewhat casually with him being the goalie back then, so I'm positive he's right. It's unfortunate, really.
lucio: *gets hog'd*
lucio 2: lmao
hog: *not so fast*
Equivalent exchange.
I definitely noticed this last time I played, made it super unfun. Also the joke at 3:54 was amazing lmao
Yeah, it has ruined the gamemode for a lot of people unfortunately. Glad you enjoyed though! :D
i know this video is a year old now but FINALLY SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THIS! I felt like one day I suddenly just couldn't hit the ball and now I really know it's not just me
Sorry for the late response. It took one too many times of people not believing me about this problem, that I made this video out of spite lmao
Since this is my first time playing summer games I thought that boop not working was what was supposed to happen even though it made no sense. Now I know I should be able to boop. thank you
It really shouldn't be like this. You may have noticed that you might even hear an "impact" sound effect when you boop/punch, signaling that you hit it, but it doesn't do anything. Something is definitely not working properly.
Another banger video carrier, I can only imagine how long this took
This one didn't actually take that long, about a week or so. Although I spent nearly 10~ hours per day on average I think, so I'm pretty tired now lol
Great video!
I felt like something was off when I was playing lucioball with a few friends. I wonder if this is the same for Winstons beach volleyball?
From what little I've seen, it is very similar and I wouldn't be surprised if it has the same exact problem. The ball is mostly slower in Volleyball though, so it's not that apparent. I can confirm that if the ball is very fast I have not been able to hit it, even if you hear the hit sound effect; just like in Lucioball.
Great vid as always
Thanks :D
I remember the time when I was on the ending of your 24-hour stream, which you deleted for some reason. You spent so much time on this game just for it to betray you. I already knew that OW2 would be a disaster for me. I wrote a post on the OW2 beta feedback forum(still is the most liked post of the thread), criticising basically everything in the beta. For me the death of the game was the release of 5v5 and everything with it, the cancellation of PvE was just a Requiem for something already dead. But for you this scam is the death and the requiem at the same time.
I left OW and got back to chess. Keeping playing OW is disrespectful for me, and much more for you.
I never deleted the streams, there is a thing/problem with RUclips that if a stream is longer than 12 hours it wont be archived, which I did not know at the time. I don't know if it's still a thing but that's why it shows up as unavailable, it was like that ever since the end of the stream.
Yeah, OW2 is just a disaster. I'm putting out the things that I wanted and/or have been bothering me for a long time just to get it over with, to at least not waste everything completely. Sure, I'll check out the PvE that is coming, but I definitely wont stick around for nearly as long as I did. Not after everything.
Best of luck with your future endeavours, friend!
nice vid friend :3 fr tho they gotta fix this we gotta get top 20 again
Real talk. Not top 20 though, top 1 and 2!
@@CarrierArcnightTHE LEGEND HAS RETURNED!!!!!
Bro your workshop Edit is so cool how do you even do this
Thanks! It's a lot of trial and error. I position a camera that is mostly always static, then I just make a series of actions that control dummy bots and other things, then just refine and add until it looks good enough. It takes a while to get it to look decent, but it works!
may your soul be at peace when we can figure out how on earth lucio ball works on a fundamental level
My soul will most likely never be at peace with that condition lmao
Fantastic video! Shame that my friends are NA and I'm EU, so I can never have lower than 100 ping if we want to play this God forsaken gamemode lol
Pain. Thank you ^^
thanks. very interesting. broken fun game.
I still hope they'll fix it one day.
Man i knew something was wrong lol i was literally booping the ball right infront of me and it just misses despite it being next to me, i did my challenges and never touched the summer game modes again
It's extremely likely that you weren't the one at fault, it's really inconsistent even with good ping.
Yay, I just hate this mode, but now have good excuse.
Great video
Hehe. Thanks :D
I knew i wasn't that shit. This makes sense as to why t500 lucioball was easy for some people because anyone with 50+ ping can't play
I rarely have had moments when I have 50 ping, and still like 80%+ (if not all) of the shots still didn't register that was shot by another player. My friend has just below 40 and he's sometimes getting noregs. It's crazy.
The coding spaghetti with blizzard games is unparalleled.
It really is.
This solution is genius, would it be possible to make a workshop gamemode that uses it for people to test in the next event that allows lb in customs? The lucioball community is still active (despite its dwindling population) and we've been running makeshift copa ladders using a bot to queue and give SR ratings in the top 500 discords for both NA and EU (and maybe asia?)
A workshop mode that allows people to actually play the game might breathe some more life into the community until either blizzard decides its worth giving some TLC or we all grow too old to play.
I love this game too much to just watch it die 💔
I could try to optimize it a bit for next time. The way it works right now is the dummy bot falls behind depending on your ping. So for example, if you have 100ms, if you're moving straight ahead, the dummy bot will be 100ms worth of distance/time behind you. Also, if you boop, it takes 100ms for him to boop. I don't think it's possible to fix this but I could try. But again, like I mentioned, it's better than having nothing work at all.
a little late here but, bro how are you still playing this game. At this point, I feel like it'd be more interesting to see how much you can break this already broken game
I don't play the game anymore, I'm only shedding what I've wanted to make for the longest time, it would be a waste to not make/talk about what has been on my mind for years.
I'm making something else but it's another decently big project so its gonna take a bit. The idea of breaking the game sounds interesting, might try something one day.
@@CarrierArcnight ah yea understandable. That makes sense. On another note, I'm quite interested in what this big project is. Hmmmmm, I wonda what it is. Can't wait to see what it is
Yep. If I get an east server I will most likely just quit the game. I have around 80 ping and the game is impossible to play, especially in goal. I was in a similar situation as you, trying to grind for top 10 again, but since 80% of people in top 100 are east, it's basically impossible. I stopped playing.
It's truly unfortunate.
i wish blizzard cared about lucioball as much as the dedicated lucio ball players do, not having Copa last year absolutely ruined the gamemode even when the hit register bug got fixed. me and 2 of my friends were all top 500 lucio ball during copa and we got matched against teams that were playing the gamemode for the first time because quickplay lucio ball just simply doesnt have skill based match making, which made for extremely boring games for both teams.
I wish blizzard cared more about a lot of things ;-;
Was it actually fixed though? I'm pretty sure I recall playing a match and still was unable to play properly, but I could be wrong.
I know exactly what you mean with quickplay lucioball. I was a top striker and I queued with a top goalie, these games were completely one-sided like 99% of the time lol
@@CarrierArcnight For me hit reg was completely fixed late into lucio ball's run last year but i also play on 7ms instead of the 70+ you have
@@LeonOwO Can't speak for low ping players but for me the hit reg was always good, I could play with 400 ping and it would work, I just had to imagine a 400ms delay so I'd have to play in the future lmao.
Times it would seem there was no registration was just a mistake of some kind. The way it is now, there's basically nothing I can do, it will just not work whatever time I boop.
Low ping always kept working as much as I saw. The year it broke (forgot which it was) it simply made it as your ping increases, it started getting less likely your boop would work. 40 seemed to roughly be the break point, though my friend still had very obvious no regs.
CARRIEDA !!
Hello!
What is the workshop code?
I don't have a fully functioning code at the moment, the version I have was made specifically for the video.
@@CarrierArcnight Sounds good, i know the event is gone now... but the t500 community would love to try to implement something like that into games to make the gaming experience much better. If it comes out in October for anniversary lets make a working code!
Any update on a workshop code? Would love to play more lucioball and even 1v1s@@Jag23j
Vídeo muito legal.
Thank you!
K.
J.
New Marblr lol
Maybe.
God loves and cares about you and will always be there for you no matter what✝️❤️
L+ratio imagine having bad ping (jk)
damn
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You too, friend!