Rebuilding My Catamaran’s Rotten Interior | Wildling Sailing
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😀Love you boat, and se you work, you er brilliant, Denmark
NICE TO SEE OTHER BOATS. YOURS IS IN BETTER HANDS AND GETTING THE TLC IT NEEDS TO SAIL.
Really good work Mark. I think at this point you are skilled and/or have reasonable skills in many areas. The chain plate repairs look solid. I would still put a solid wood vertical member, reasonably wide, on the inside.
I'm glad you're going to spend some money on 4 stroke motors. I know it'll reassure you and your folks more, as it will for those who follow you, especially crossing oceans.
I'm again so impressed with the the condition of Mahi despite sitting in weather the mud for, what, 12 years.
I know there are issues, many repaired, more to come, but Mahi was so well build and remarkably preserved that the deeper you go the more convinced I am it was a great buy.
And you get the boat of your dreams.
Cheers from Vancouver, Canada
WBP ply (exterior grade) in the UK uses the same glues as the stuff that’s stamped BS1088 marine ply. Historically the only difference was the quality of the individual veneers & of course, the vastly different price tags!! If building to Lloyds 100A1 standards you’d have to use the BS1088, which in most cases is a bit OTT. If memory serves, Pete & Annie Hill (of Voyaging on a small income fame) built ‘Badger’ entirely from sheathed exterior ply & put many thousands of miles under her keel.
Keep up the great work & keep living the dream!!!
Just keep in mind the Polynesian seas as you dig out the rot. We believe in you Mark 😊
I believe the only difference between a 9.9 and a 15 is exhaust and carburetor. There's no weight penalty for ten extra horsepower over the pair. Two electric start outboards with alternators are a must.
Great vid
Nice, good video
Why not buy a humidity tester like surveyors use? I think it would save you a lot of time and give you peace of mind.
They only touch the surface so no damage. I had to redo my entire hull so I can confirm those things are accurate.
you need a heavier grit stont for taking out the chips
Just keep the outboards for a couple of years. Get the rest sorted first.
Hi Mark, well done so far. Changing your outboards for Yamaha would be the way forward. The ones to go for are the high thrust version FT9.9LEL or LEX(long or extra long shaft) much less thirsty than the 2 stroke and awesome motors. Nothing compares to them! I am on my second pair for my 30 year old Woods design 35ft cat. I tried mercury 9.9 with suposedly hi thrust props and they barely moved the boat!
I'm so impressed with your persistence, I love your accent it's just easy to listen to you.
I lived on a 53ft trimaran with two kids and a narcissist for a partner, he was all promises but no effort and I finally realised I'd have to give up my dream of boat life to escape him. So I do appreciate the effort you put in. Keep going you'll love that life alone or with the right person.
Sadie found the same out about the tyrant Trudeau. You made the right choice.
It's best not to discuss religion, politics, and shrpening in polite company.
2 mins in and i already see a problem. You need a low angle block plane for plywood edge grain. Jack plane blade needs to be taken well back so it is just kissing, the cutting angle is all wrong. I know you are doing the best you can with what you got..... good job on the bogging and patching.
appreciate the advice, mate
Yeah always wind the blade way back and lower the blade onto the wood edge as you push. The poster is correct though, you want a lower angled blade for ply edge.
Yup we call them thumb planes and are really small and smart for plywood planing... cheap too. Maybe $8 +/-
Hi Mark. Nice work! I would not sell those 2-strokes short! Those are simple and durable engines. And the Japanese 2-strokes were beautifully engineered. Long lasting and easy to work on.
From what I read, new 2-strokes are illegal but older ones are ''grandfathered'' in.
@@DWilliams-ce8nbthe cost of fuel for the 2 stroke motors may exceed 4x that of the 4... I think you are right to buy new or low hour yamahas... they sip fuel and are quite easy to find parts because mercury is the same motor!
@@saylaveenadmearedead Maybe if pre-mixed? But I've always used regular gas, then I pour in a measured amount of oil. Negligible difference in fuel cost in my experience. And a pair of new Yamaha 9.9's is easily in the 6 to 7 thousand dollar range. The one's he has cost ZERO
why not electric?
Port in - Port out use of outboards is the main use anyway…
It’s years since I sharpened a chisel or plain but from what I remember it’s important to turn the blade over and place it flat on the block move in circular motion (use oil) to get a sharp edge. If you just do the bevel you can get a lip on the other side. Like shortening a kitchen knife you need to do both sides. You should be able to cut a bit of paper easily. Could be remembering wrong but thought it worth a mention.
spot on, your memory is correct.
Each tool has two angles the taper and the cutting edge.... Chisels and planes
may have different angles for both.
The other thing with tools like planes is the foot or bed of the plane needs to be smooth to allow it to slide over the wood ...
You tend to plain with the grain if possible to reduce lifting and jamming of the blade.
Plywood being wood at 90deg angles each layer needs to be good quality dry and held tight..the plane has to be seriously sharp.
A belt sander is sometimes the only way to smooth rough cut plywood edges Mark. 🧙♂️🇬🇧
Things are looking good. Little by little you are getting projects completed. Great work. 😁
Glad to see you’re sticking with your attention to detail mate. You are getting there even if it seems to you it’s taking forever. Not too far off now, wish I could help as waterproofing is my thing. Soon be watching you tacking down the coast of Greece.
Some glass fiber over your inner skin inserts would give a bit of tensile strength to your repairs. Im guessing both inner and outer skins are structural i.e. they give strength in tension as well as compression.
Seems like a good plan. Extra tabbing to that bulkhead as well?
Love watching your progress especially as we have kept a boat in the Netherlands for the last three years. Would you please tell me how you have overcome the 90 day rule to stay in the Netherlands? We keep a boat in Sneek and would love to stay longer but don't know how?
I recall that he became a French citizen last year... hence different visas
Look at Tohatsu 4 stroke long shaft. They do a 25" shaft length that may be good for you. Good reputation and economical.
Dear Wildling Sailing.
👍👌👏 All the repairs you did are looking really, really sturdy. Congratulations, 🎉 well done. I'm pretty sure that you will never ever have problems with the chain plates. I'm eagerly looking forward to watch how the outboard motors will be put on. I'm also looking forward to see your parents again. They're great boat people and very supportive. Congrats for having such parents. By the way: The boating community is really, really awesome. Nearly everyone is supportive and friendly. Congrats again for being a member of this community. 2) The multi tools with cords are much shorter, lighter and easier to handle. There is also a tool existing called electric scraper/chisel (not oscillating!). Something like this would be very useful/helpful.
3) The Mahi in almost the same colour than your cat, was really sad to see. This boat seems rotten to death, it's a shame.
Thanks a lot for making explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards, luck and especially health to all involved people.
Best series every week, here on the Tube.
Chisel sharpening…
You need to flatten the back as well sorry if you are doing that but it didn’t show in video
Happy honing dude!
I used a vacuum cleaner to pressurize my boat and soapy water on the decks and hatches and fittings to find leaks hose outside cleaner inside it increases the pressure enough to blow bubbles.
Yup. Works really well for a lot of things. On a roof for example, you rent a large blower (usually used for venting spaces) cover the whole bottom and walls of the attic/crawl space in plastic which you tape as best you can and then let it loose and you go about with a smoke machine inside. You can see all the pin holes, leak holes and everything. Just have to make sure you vent all that smoke gradually so the neighbors don't call the firemen on you. :))
I said that, I said that putting a few layers of gloves on when working and you can remove one without stopping work to have a clean set…
Look mum I’m famous 😂😂
ahaha :D
Reliable motors are key, but they come at a price. I would not cut corners. Think of all the headache you had on the other boat rebuilding the motor.
Perch make good eating. That big one would be a nice meal. They are from the Bass family.
Excellent work Mark! I love seeing all the people you meet along the way. Also, I'm very happy your folks are coming, love them to pieces!
Take a look At tally ho Leo did a video on sharpening you will also see some of the best craftsmanship in the world! Working on a boat you want to sail around the world it’s important that the repairs you do are best practice as your life may depend on them !
Keep Grinding away Mark, next spring you will be killing it with sailing Vlogs! Use this time to get it done right, or close to right! I know brother it’s hard on a tight budget! I did a lot of what you’re doing as a young guy with a tight budget and a old monohaul boat! It is what it is as long as it will get you there safely!!!! ✌️✌️✌️
Hoi Mark, you do need a permit to fish in our country! Be careful you dont get caught 😅
The deck of my own boat is plywood core, and I had some rot. I did what you are doing for the major parts, but if you drill through for a new fitting, the problem can come back; this is what I did. Buy a step drill; a step drill is a cone-shaped drill; step drill each hole from both sides so there is a wider flared hole with a flare from both sides, then mix epoxy and add cabasil thickener; wear a dust mask when handling Cabisil is silica and it can damage your lungs, fill the holes with the mixed cabasil and epoxy, you will have to put tape over the fill because it will run and fall out.
When it goes off the sand surface, you may have to refill, and then you redrill the hole for the fitting. Get a big counter sink drill bit and put an aflare to the hole from the outside; this is very important for two reasons: it creates a well for the sealant around the bolt, and it will stop work hardening and cracking of the bolt when the bolt comes under load, do not use other fillers they are not strong enough some people also add cut up chop strand I would avoid that because chop strand has styrene added to make bind and styrene is not compatible with epoxies.do this, and you will have a very dry boat
Keep it up !!
Fibreglass over your new chainplate strengthening into that bulkhead that is in between the chainplates, this will help distribute the rig loads. The final small bevel on your chisel is achieved by having less blade protruding from the jig.
Yes, you learn that by reading the instructions that come with the jig.
hahahahahaha@@loloaqici82qb4ipp
Will be nice to see your mom and dad. They are as good as gold.
That abandoned Wharram boat gave me the sadness, poor thing!
Still, puts Mahi into context, onwards and upwards!
Good effort Mark boat is looking great!
I have taken some more footage of the catamaran on the Vilaine. I'll put it on RUclips and will put the link in a comment.
Hey Mark. Looks like you are getting there. My tip for the old, rough chisels you are not too worried about, sharpen them with a belt sander. It is very fast and easy and makes them very sharp. You can touch them up on a stone then if you feel the need, but I don't bother and they work great. Cheers.
use proper tools...you have the massive power bank.
i think you should look at acorn to arabellaes shourds systems with dynemma straps.. shame you can take the pods for the rotten warham
just so you know, when using a wetstone like that to sharpen anything, its best to try to use the entire surface somewhat evenly, as well as only sharpening the edge in one direction. The easiest way to do that is to keep it on the stone like you do, but only apply pressure when moving away from the blades edge.
Also, try to use all the surface area of the stone or you will wear a groove in the middle and then it becomes useless.
And when you sharpen the new one only sharpen the beveled edge on the end
Actually, there has been a lot of tests and surveys about whether to go one way or both when sharpening, filing, etc
The trials tell us - it doesn’t make any difference to the results 🤷🏽♂️
Only sharpen the bevel and use the whole sharpener surface, only apply pressure on the away stroke. Your resident Chef advisor (retired) 😂 your doing a grand job ✊🏻🏴
@@MiQBohlin isn't it well documented that filing (like sawing) on the return side of the tooth dulls the tooth quicker, which is the reason for releasing pressure on the return stroke? (Sorry it's not directly relevant to sharpening on a wet stone)
For your "bash it out" chisels, best thing is to get a piece of glass and some wet/dry sand paper of about 400 grit and just do the flat side of the chisel. This will keep it in good condition for rough work without worrying about keeping the bevel angle correct (and save your wet stone for the fine chisel).
Wet stone because oil or water for the lubricant... I use simple green even on my diamond sharpening stones.... they last longer and congratulations on your new chisel set! There are true craftsmen in that country and beautiful tools are a lifetime treasure but of course your dad has taught you that too...
You know your fish mark ..! 😜But the second perch was a nice size .. spinning always good fun .. sail around the UK would be a good tester and only after a few single days just to check water tightness and everything secure .. is it what you call " SHIP SHAPE "..looking forward to your next vlog and make sure mom cracks a bottle of fizz..! Too drink that is.. not to wet the boat yet 🥂✌️🙏🇬🇧
If Dan has a channel I'll look forward to watching any vids of repairs he posts.
Hi Mark, as always good to watch your videos, for what it worth XPS (extruded polystyrene) performs much better than PIR (polyisocyanurate) especially in moist environments, less than 1% absorption compared to about 3% for PIR. that is if you are replacing any of the foam.
Due to the differing ply directions and adhesive quality, a belt sander works much easier on plywood edges.......
Good idea about the motors…..good job so far….
Hi Mark! Just wanna let you know I enjoy the process as you're restoring the boat! One thing popped into my mind as an earlier safety delegate; when working in small compact places with limited ventilation, make sure to use a face mask that has a filter rated/designed to protect against the chemical evaporat. The different products have data sheets available online with recommended mask filter & p.p.e.. With the correct filter you should not smell the chemicals, at short term one might feel unwell but at long term one could develop chronical illness.
Keep up the good work
Regards, Ole 🙂
Oh, I forgot, you asked about the right way to sharpen a chisel...??? Your beautiful Bahco chisels have it right. There is the primary bevel, and then the cutting bevel which is more steep, and only on the 1.5 to 2.0mm of the very edge of the blade.
Using the 'blade guide' you have been using is a good way to control the bevels, but you should be aware that you will soon develop a hollow in the centre of the stone. It's best to build a 'box' to contain the stone which is **exactly** the same size as the stone, so the top edge of the sides of the box are flush with the stone, then your guide can roll past the edge of the stone, and widen the area of the stone you are actually using.
Making this box used to be one of an apprentice carpenter's first test jobs. I still have mine, made over 50 years ago as a First Year Apprentice carpenter.
Another point to make is that leaving the chips in the edge, as you showed in the video, is not good for the blade, but is sort of 'okay' on 'bashing' chisels.
It's good to have two sets. One for bashing, and one for fine joinery. NEVER use the Bahco chisels on hard epoxy.
The general rule of thumb is that chisels with straight side edges are for bashing, and those with the factory bevel on three sides (i.e. what's called a 'bevelled edge chisel") are for fine joinery, and only light hitting with a wooden mallet.
What we used to do with the chisels once damaged (chips, gouges in edge) was to grind the edge till we got rid of them. Like literally just push the edge of the chisel straight into the grinding wheel on a rotary grinder. Then flip the chisel and use the grinder to back off the main bevel, and only use the sharpening stone for the final bevel. This provides for a very slight 'hollow' in the primary bevel, which aids the peeling off of the shavings, making them curl more readily. be very carefuyl not to do too much pressure onthe grinder, and always dip it in a can of water every few seconds to dissipate the heat. If you get 'blueing' on the chisel blade it means you've likely lost the 'temper' built into the steel and so it won't hold an edge very well.
From memory the bevels were 25deg and 30deg respectively, but don't quote me. These days I just do it by eye.
The other trick is that what you are doing while sharpening is building up (creating) a 'burr' on the back face of the blade edge. It is removing this 'burr' that 'sharpens' the edge.
The trick to removing the burr is to push the chisel dead flat on its back along the stone **sideways** - so the blade is at 90 deg to the stone, so the sharp edge is running north-south along the longitudinal length of the stone.
It's tricky to keep the back of the blade flat while doing this, takes some practice, but this is the correct way to sharpen a chisel or plane blade.
Also, while on the subject of planes, you were struggling with the hand plane to plane the edge of a piece of 6mm ply...???
Either the plane was too blunt, OR you had too much of the iron poking out, OR the ply was wobbling around too much making life too difficult. Or probably a combination of the above.
Often, with fine edges like ply, it's better to clamp a piece of 2 x 1 to the edge to give the base of the plane something to slide along, and provides you with a clear idea of how much you need to plane off. And as it's easy to see what's left, you don't tend to plane off too much in one spot.
It's also a good idea to use a couple of short pieces of scrap either side of the sheet clamped together to stop that 'bucking', and ideally to clamp the job to something solid so you can use the plane in a standard horizontal fashion, not on it's side as you were which is VERY difficult to control and keep the edge straight and square.
Hope that helps!!
Cheers
Mark in Oz
IMPORTANT: To see that you are gluing with the right amount of glue, Drill small holes in what you are Gluing and the glue should come out of these small hole as you push on the piece, it also helps the keying for more strength.
Hi Mark, some years back I got a small portable vice, it has clamps to attach it to tables etc., I’ve had a quick look on the web and there still seems to be a variety of these around and not too expensive. I’m sure one for use inside on rainy days might make things a little safer and easier when you get the plane out now and into the future 😀
Only sharpening rule you need when it comes to chisels or old plate irons to start: sharpening is better than not sharpening. Leave all the technique and finesse for when youre regularly doing fine finish work. Fantastic work all around. Always look forward to seeing a new post.
Love what you're doing, I just have a slight request or advice. When you were talking about the Bermuda rig at 20:20, it would have been nice for you to show a photo of Bermuda rigged sailboat so we can have a visual example. Don't get me wrong I love your channel but adding little extras like that make a big difference I know editing is a pain in the ass so I understand
As fellow adventurers, we're thrilled to follow your exciting journey and wish you well with the completion of your cat. Here's to new horizons!
Hello! I'd like to know how you intend to deal with the water trapped in the foam? Since water follows gravity, how do you intend to remove the humidity that has fallen down in the foam you cannot reach?
Good morning from Christchurch New Zealand 🇳🇿!
...well at least this is fun to see and think - its not me.... low budget young people that learn the hard way is nice to see - but I knew from the start that boat was soaked...and the other the look at here - and talk positive of - even worse.... its a reason its lying there like that... 99% will understand it not worth anything - just a big job and lots of money needed. One q. do you use the 1:8 joint when you have constructive elements? I had one plywood cat - good design fast but hell to keep - the foam trimaran - so much better to keep.
Your editing with the over use of "jump cut" is annoying, a high percentage of people don't like it, just saying 🤔
thank you for sharing! the Mahi is looking fantastic!
advice:do not use your fancy stones for cheap chisels , use wet-dry sand paper on a piece of glass, use the whole surface of the stones to reduce need for honning, unle$$ you are loaded and do not give a $hoot.
THUMB UP people
Have you discovered that vinegar breaks down uncured epoxy? It makes dealing with sticky epoxy easier.
I try to keep epoxy off my skin. I use vinegar for cleaning all my hand tools and after contact with the vinegar, I give the tools a wipe with whatever I have like WD40, PB Blaster, or light oil.
Works for cleaning your gloved hands so I use the disposable gloves longer reducing my waste.
Good move to get new engines. I'd be worried about the old 2 stroke ones.
If they work and start fine keep them they are much easier to repair anywhere in the world and much lighter than 4 stroke which is critical on any multihull but also to pull up to the bridge deck.
You may have a point with the weight but those things only just ran even after being shipped back to the UK and gone over. The age alone might become an issue. I know for sure what I'd rather have.. a couple of 15hp 4 stoke outboards that 2 80s version 2 strokes. Keep in mind .. he's going to be offshore. Jus a thought. @@lebellep
Keep going Mark
Enjoy your channel
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The hinged motor mount is a good idea but you might want to try using 4 bars that would lower the engines level and raise them up level. Little bit of engineering.
I agree, much stouter and will have much less drag
I'm so glad you didn't buy that boat in costa Rica, everyday would have been such a struggle. The Netherlands is where you were meant to be and so easy for your folks to come visit. Week by week you are making good progress
Looking good mate! I like what you did with the music in this video. Chill vibes all over! See you next week!
Dry your underpants where you cut your fibreglass…. Brave man.
Funny thingies you talk about fish this is story this woman was so fed up with her hustbond was always out fishing so we put a big pond in the back garden filled it with fish so she's now where to find him😂😂😂,that fish will look good on a plate
4 strokes would be so much easier to operate. It's looking good!
the way you tilt your outboards 4 stokes might not work , the oil might migrate into the cylinders and that's why they use 2 strokes ! I think 35 degrees max !
For the next video more Caribbean music - try Merengue from Dominican Republic. Pronounced Mer Eng Gay.
Please buy proper mask when doing that shit, you only have 1 life….
Starting to come together mark. I agree the chain plates should have some reinforcement
Great work Mark if you ever come to Edgbaston Reservoir I have a free mooring for you.
Yeah the bevel is there so you can quickly sharpen the chisel. (less material to remove). After a while, you sharpen the blade fully and reinstate the bevel. It's as important to flatten the bottom of your blades and chisels before working on the main edge. There's plenty of guides out there.
Even your new bahco chisels should be flattened on the bottom (just to check) and honed a little, they don't come out that sharp from new.
Always enjoy watching you now, it's great to see you doing the grind. One job at a time.
Great progress Mark. The Pahi 42 you saw, the stays with the lashings at the stern will be running back stays. You only have the windward one tensioned to help tension the forestay and stop sag of the forestay. The other running back stay goes forward behind the boom and mainsail. Have to careful not to crash gybe which could cause the boom to hit the windward runner and bring the mast down. I would say the rig on the Pahi is not highly loaded, you have a very wide aground base so I think what you are doing with the chain plates looks good. Keep at it and look forward to next week as it’s always good to see your parents helping out. Andy UK
Wow your skills just keep improving Mark. She's really coming together now
Cool editing and music.
You are doing great work. I've seen so called self proclaimed carpenters do worse . Keep the videos coming
Make sure and sail out to Trinidad … home of calypso!!!!
3:38 Please don't use a chisel with your hand in front of it! You can only be warned once!
So this boat never had chain plates - and I assume never had a mast or rigging either?
Thanks v much for another fascinating episode. I really appreciate how you fit in filming and editing when you are so busy with things that matter. Mind you, if you've got time to fish!...... Re the engines - when you did your one and only open water passage, the engines seemed to be pretty gutless - you were doing two amd a half knots with the wind behind you as I recall. Once you have a seaworthy boat, I think you might want a decent donk!
I hope your dad sees that video showing the lifting frame for your two outboards. that was slick. just need to come up with a little electric winch to lift and lower them...
Keep up the good work.
"It's raining outside..." Q: Where else would it be raining?
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That catamaran could use a nice custom on the main deck.. Good JOB
Dang good filling job , sorted ! All that paste :-)
good plan to search some newer more powerful motors....each week I'm more and more impressed with the quality of your work ( you have grown immensely in the last few years) , when it is all done you will be an expert, Cheers.
Hi!
I will continue to watch all your coverage.
What you are doing is great. You create value.
Your ship is more and more alive, and its sister ship is more and more dying.
Your thinking is also in place.
You compacted the chain plate bases nicely.
On the other hand, fasten the chain plates to the cross-supporting bulkhead, very firmly. Keep it up. I listen and praise you.
Instead of making holes, why don’t you get a humidity meter, to check for water in the walls, they are very inexpensive
You don’t want chipped blades on your chissels and planes, even those for the rough work should be sharp. If you’ve got nothing else, use your angle grinder to bring the cutting edge back to straight and 90°. Use water to cool the blade, otherwise it will lose it hardness. Coarse to fine sandpaper on a flat surface can then be used for the bevel. Good enough for most applications. And last your stone to get it really sharp for the fine work.
And I appreciate how interesting you make your videos for us. Crack on my friend.🎉😊
You could do with a grinding wheel for those chisels, to get the notches out.
I'm pleased your looking for new engine's. I think them old 2 engine's would eventually cause you problems. You will be always working on them. Your boat is starting to look fantastic. Can't wait until next Friday for your next video. Keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to you sailing again.
Winches on Wharrams? Sacrilege!
Flatten the backside of those chisels first on the stone, then the bevel! Look up Paul Sellers guide on how to do it.
cheers mate
When you're using epoxy and screws, it can help to dry-fit the screws before you apply the glue. That way you're not trying to make holes when the ply is sliding around on wet glue. Also you can put screws part-way through the plywood and use them to help align the plywood into their holes.