Janet Lynn. Oh, what a loss for those who yearn for the return of ice skating to art and away from muscle, effort and rotations completed on the ice. Today, If she/he is at a standstill on the ice when the jump is landed, no one cares. What ever happened to riding out an edge after the jump? Janet Lynn was the master of that.
I learned to figure skate at the same rink that Janet Lynn skated at- she was always so nice to the pesky little kids around there. Her influence has been identified by many more recent skaters. She didn't waste any time on just getting from point A to point B- she put in artistry that is timeless.
She seems to really understand the true beauty that figure skating can be!! I LOVE how she holds out every move to the fullest, and there's simply not a mediocre position or line in the entire program. A masterpiece.
Not seen in competition in 1982 and especially not today in 2017 although as a member and partner of John Curry myself....I make sure all my skaters have beautifully choreographed programs.
Beautiful to watch, and so pleasant that she has not filled it with difficult jumps. I don't have to tense up worrying that she will fall. No commentator would have to say, Ohh, she lost points there.
Such a pleasure to watch; I love how smooth and seamless she is going into and landing jumps...just flawless..and she had one of the beast lay=back spins EVER...
Oh, how she rides out those landing edges. Riding out a landing edge today is not valued because of the never ending quest for more and more revolutions per jump. Many skaters today get a big round of applause for landing a quad but the skater lands stock with no sustained landing edge and jumps out of that position to continue on to something else. We have now dropped our standards to simply landing the jump.
I think in 1982,she had 3 sons ( twins ).I saw her at a mall rink in 1976 and was too chicken to approach her for an autograph.She was like 8 months pregnant with her first son and she looked tired.She was judging a small local ice skating competition.I walked into the mall one afternoon and there she was!!! I don't think she has skated in some 20 years or more.
The commentary is very dated.... but I can overlook that with the beautiful skating Janet provided. I wish I knew who was speaking, I'm sure it was a former skater...not the 'sport commentator'.
@@barbaraforbes5394 ty so much! I like hearing commentary from actual skaters but sometimes you can hear jealousy, disdain or in his case ...imo....a certain prejudice on what /how a female skater should skate.
Yes I'm sure Dorothy emulated Janet, even her hairstyle. But she couldn't duplicate Janet's spirit and etherial quality, although Dorothy got much better, artistically, as a professional than an amateur.
This narration is dated in a very bad way. "This is how a female skater is supposed to skate." Tonya Harding, the first American woman to complete a triple axel in competition was accused of not being "graceful" enough or "feminine" enough even though she was a superior athlete and could do things that the more "feminine" skaters could not. The same with Elaine Zayak a decade before Harding. Both pushed the sport forward.
Of course the narration is dated. He said what he felt at the time in 1982. Tonya wasn't graceful enough, she would admit that herself, so you might as well too. She had a grace that was her own... but she got more points for her jumps than artistic impression. Tonya's problem was she wasn't consistent with her jumps in competition. Had she skated clean she would have won, but don't blame the judges or the commentators because she didn't complete a jump. She lost the competitions because she didn't skate her best on the day in question. Janet lost more competitions than Tonya, but she never blamed the judges.
Gee it wont' be long before all the female skaters are Amazons doing triple-quad jumps like Surya Bonaly and her ilk. Evidence suggests that time is already here. The gender equity fascists affecting everything, including sport, are winning. Their brave new world excludes the timid, the hesitant, the wonder-struck, the artistic, anything formerly considered "feminine". Btw, Zayak's super-athelic skating was not valued by all skaters and their coaches, like the talented Sandra Bezic.
Yes, the commentator was wrong in using the word "female" when he stated that "This is how a female skater is supposed to skate". However, I believe he should be forgiven because he had the good sense to recognize that Janet Lynn had something that so many male and female skaters did not have. They prepare for jumps with too much plain skating and workman-like mechanics that telegraph that a jump is coming and a jump which will take great effort. Janet Lynn does not do that. Her preparation for her jumps are artistic, fluid, effortless, relaxed and seamlessly become part of the jump. All skaters should strive for that. So, alright already, the guy botched it. All he had to do was eliminate the word "female" and it all would have made perfect sense.
@@lakedist lol...if Toller said NOTHING during Janet's whole program, we would have thought he died in the booth. Just Toller being Toller who was a great fan of Janet.
i could watch her skate forever. such a talent. her arms, her hands, always making a little
comment to the musical notes. lovely. i am a lifelong fan.
Janet Lynn. Oh, what a loss for those who yearn for the return of ice skating to art and away from muscle, effort and rotations completed on the ice. Today, If she/he is at a standstill on the ice when the jump is landed, no one cares. What ever happened to riding out an edge after the jump? Janet Lynn was the master of that.
I learned to figure skate at the same rink that Janet Lynn skated at- she was always so nice to the pesky little kids around there. Her influence has been identified by many more recent skaters. She didn't waste any time on just getting from point A to point B- she put in artistry that is timeless.
She seems to really understand the true beauty that figure skating can be!! I LOVE how she holds out every move to the fullest, and there's simply not a mediocre position or line in the entire program. A masterpiece.
she moves like the wings of an angel - i found myself holding my breath watching this. truly enchanting!
That was one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen. Entranced from the very first second.
just perfection of movement! sublime!!!
I absolutely LOVE her !!!
Not seen in competition in 1982 and especially not today in 2017 although as a member and partner of John Curry myself....I make sure all my skaters have beautifully choreographed programs.
You don't want it to end......just go on forever........I would watch! best wishes
Janet Lynn Nowicki - the world's first female $1,000,000 athlete.
Truly sublime! Thank you for posting.
She moves so fluidly, like water! If I could skate like anyone, it would be Janet Lynn. So beautiful and mesmerizing to watch! :D
Beautiful to watch, and so pleasant that she has not filled it with difficult jumps. I don't have to tense up worrying that she will fall. No commentator would have to say, Ohh, she lost points there.
Perfect Grace! 👌👏👌👏👏
Such a pleasure to watch; I love how smooth and seamless she is going into and landing jumps...just flawless..and she had one of the beast lay=back spins EVER...
You can definitely see John Currie's influence here. He was a legend too.
Janet Lynn makes each moment on the ice a precious one! Ahhhh.....
Have to agree with Toller completely
2:13 - love the spiral before the double toe and how she holds the landing
Oh, how she rides out those landing edges. Riding out a landing edge today is not valued because of the never ending quest for more and more revolutions per jump. Many skaters today get a big round of applause for landing a quad but the skater lands stock with no sustained landing edge and jumps out of that position to continue on to something else. We have now dropped our standards to simply landing the jump.
I think in 1982,she had 3 sons ( twins ).I saw her at a mall rink in 1976 and was too chicken to approach her for an autograph.She was like 8 months pregnant with her first son and she looked tired.She was judging a small local ice skating competition.I walked into the mall one afternoon and there she was!!! I don't think she has skated in some 20 years or more.
Ballerina
The commentary is very dated....
but I can overlook that with the beautiful skating Janet provided.
I wish I knew who was speaking, I'm sure it was a former skater...not the 'sport commentator'.
Toller Cranston was commentating
@@barbaraforbes5394 ty so much!
I like hearing commentary from actual skaters but sometimes you can hear jealousy, disdain or in his case ...imo....a certain prejudice on what /how a female skater should skate.
@@poorthing he loved Janet’s skating because it was both athletic and feminine. Hardly a prejudice. It’s an evaluation, and an excellent one at that!
spettacolare,danza classica sul ghiaccio
Veramente!
Essatamente. Come sempre.
She must have inspired Dorothy Hamill. I can see something of Janet's carriage and positioning in Dorothy's skating.
Dorothy's first national competition was against Janet, and Dorothy speaks in awe of Janet Lynn.
Yes! Good call! Didn't see it till you pointed it out-You could almost superimpose Dorothy's head onto Janet's body!
Yes I'm sure Dorothy emulated Janet, even her hairstyle. But she couldn't duplicate Janet's spirit and etherial quality, although Dorothy got much better, artistically, as a professional than an amateur.
Pity the guys couldn't have shut up during this great performance
You can't learn about the art of skating if the commentators don't speak.
2axel pure edge entrance straight up and exquisite exit can any ladies skater amatuer or pro match that today
What a shame Toller did not stop talking!
In several interviews, he raved about Janet. He was a great fan of hers.
“The way women are supposed to skate”......really 😂???
Будто плывёт по воздуху
who is the man speaking who is "her best fan"?
That was Toller Cranston.
@@lakedist Toller, along with John Curry in a different style, were the most artistic male figure skaters of the time.
I really wish the commentators would just shut up so I could enjoy her program...
Turn the sound off.
Can anyone identify the commentators?
One of them was Toller Cranston
Don't know who Ted is, but the other one is the late, great artist who paid for his skating by selling his paintings--Toller Cranston.
This narration is dated in a very bad way. "This is how a female skater is supposed to skate." Tonya Harding, the first American woman to complete a triple axel in competition was accused of not being "graceful" enough or "feminine" enough even though she was a superior athlete and could do things that the more "feminine" skaters could not. The same with Elaine Zayak a decade before Harding. Both pushed the sport forward.
Of course the narration is dated. He said what he felt at the time in 1982. Tonya wasn't graceful enough, she would admit that herself, so you might as well too. She had a grace that was her own... but she got more points for her jumps than artistic impression. Tonya's problem was she wasn't consistent with her jumps in competition. Had she skated clean she would have won, but don't blame the judges or the commentators because she didn't complete a jump. She lost the competitions because she didn't skate her best on the day in question. Janet lost more competitions than Tonya, but she never blamed the judges.
Gee it wont' be long before all the female skaters are Amazons doing triple-quad jumps like Surya Bonaly and her ilk. Evidence suggests that time is already here. The gender equity fascists affecting everything, including sport, are winning. Their brave new world excludes the timid, the hesitant, the wonder-struck, the artistic, anything formerly considered "feminine". Btw, Zayak's super-athelic skating was not valued by all skaters and their coaches, like the talented Sandra Bezic.
Yes, the commentator was wrong in using the word "female" when he stated that "This is how a female skater is supposed to skate". However, I believe he should be forgiven because he had the good sense to recognize that Janet Lynn had something that so many male and female skaters did not have. They prepare for jumps with too much plain skating and workman-like mechanics that telegraph that a jump is coming and a jump which will take great effort. Janet Lynn does not do that. Her preparation for her jumps are artistic, fluid, effortless, relaxed and seamlessly become part of the jump. All skaters should strive for that. So, alright already, the guy botched it. All he had to do was eliminate the word "female" and it all would have made perfect sense.
You know that was Toller Cranston, right?
@@lakedist lol...if Toller said NOTHING during Janet's whole program, we would have thought he died in the booth.
Just Toller being Toller who was a great fan of Janet.
She's no Tonya Harding, but she's not bad.
Thank goodness she is no Tonya Harding. She can complete the same jumps as Tonya Harding but with grace and fluidness.
Tonya Harding has never been the gold standard of figure skating.
Good god almighty, Tonya Harding can’t hold a candle to her. I’m gonna hope your comment was a botched effort at sarcasm.
Why can't skaters have this sort of port de bras today?
because they don't learn school figures any more and they lose the discipline of edge work
Because it’s gymnastics on ice now. They’ve ruined the sport.