@@mrthelwulf4566 Yeah I hear that. More like impossible. Whenever I hear about people going to MM for the first time, the first thing I tell them is to plan for more than one day if they want to get everything done. I don't care if you get there when the park opens and you stay until closing and you skip all meals. One day will not work. The park is too big, too busy, and has too many rides for one day. I made the mistake once of going in mid-August (never again), which is probably one of the busiest times of the year for them and it took 1.5 hours just to get on Riddler's Revenge!
@@soccerty1214 I remember me and my friends went there on a day when there was practically no one there. We got there as soon as it opened and left until it closed, and we were able to get on most rides, except Apocalypse. Honestly idk how we did it, we ran all over the place and managed to beat a few lines before they got packed. Safe to say alot of screaming and rushing went on that day
I visited for the first time ever in 2019, December. I lucked out, all the main thrill rides were operating, even WCR was open to Diamond members. I think this is the best park in the six flags chain. Yes 2020 and corona have torpedoed my park visits for sure.
@@Clay3613 X2, TC, and Tatsu are all top-tier coasters, and a lot of the others are really good. There are a couple really bad ones, but most of that is personal preference.
@cruddy coaster content This. So far 2016 was the only year they added only a single Coaster (Formula), every other year was 2 or 3. And that is in addition to Flatrides, improvements on Theming throughout the Park and expansions on their Water Park. They simply don't seem to stop building. I have seen pictures of Mine Train track already being on site, and that's the known 2021 Coaster, so who knows what else they already decided to build or at least considering.
@@ween6301 Thank you for the laugh of the day. Energylandia has a very well rounded Lineup. Yes, they have more Kiddie Coasters than most Parks, but they have more Coasters than most Parks too. They currently have 3 High Thrills Coasters (Hyperion, Zadra, Mayan) with2 being borderline Family / High Thrills (Speed, Formula). They have 5 Coasters that I would put as Kiddie Coasters and 5 Family Coasters. By the looks of it Abyssus is going to be more of a Higher Thrill Coaster with another Family Coaster planned to open this year and a Mine Train already confirmed for next year. Like it or not, Energylandia is a Park for the whole Family and that Shows in their Coaster Lineup. And you have to keep in mind that Poland is still pretty new to the whole Theme Park concept. Prior to Energylandia they pretty much only had what is now known as Legendia and a handful of Luna Parks and Family Entertainment Centers. We are talking about a country where in 2015 a SLC opened as the Countries highest Coaster, beating their back then Record Holder by 13.3 Meters.
That'd be crazy if Energylandia makes 5 more coasters before Magic Mountain makes 1 lol but if anybody is gonna do it it'd definitely be Energylandia haha (yes yes I know they're supposed to have 18 by 2021 but with Covid here that can always change)
@@notffrenchy Yeah so in Reality Magic Mountain being the first to hit 20 will be worth it for real 16 adult/family coasters, and 4 very different kiddie coasters :D
I used to do that at six flags great America. After school I’d literally walk to six flags, my school was a 15 minute walk from great America. I’d leave my stuff in my locker and just take my cup.
@@XGaming1 Just out of curiosity, where'd you go to school? (I went to St. Lawrence for awhile...) Of course, I'm old enough to remember Great America when it first opened, long before Six Flags took it over. In some ways, it was a lot more fun back then. Not as tacky or overcrowded (or expensive.)
Apocalypse, Twisted Colossus, and Riddlers Revenges we’re all down the only time I’ve been there. I’d love a page on their websites to show close times!
@@tommycoaster1911 I have to disagree. Although coasters are the main reason I go to theme parks, I much prefer the Universal Orlando parks because they have enough thrills and great employees, and some of the best theming in the world. Also, parks like Magic Mountain and Great Adventure are tricky because you need two days to do all of the coasters, but they aren't really resorts and for travelers, staying a night is strange.
Airtime thrills: it’s great cause they have two freestyle machine locations Cedar point: this year we’re also adding 7 more, giving is a total of 30 stations
So Cedar Point has 3 stand alone Freestyle Buildings, one by Gatekeeper, one in the Gemini Midway and the last is over by Maverick. All 3 have 6 Freestyle Machines. So there’s 18 right there, and they have at least 2 in every dine in Restaurant, and then more scattered throughout their other food stands. So it would be safe to say Cedar Point has at least 50 Freestyle Machines
Magic mountain has both quantity and quality. Went for the first time December 19’ and wished we had another day!! We got two ‘perfect duels’ on both the green and blue side of colossus and freaking loved it!
Awesome pros and cons video! A few other cons I thought of -Lack of shade and Rain Cover -Some outdated areas still with the entrance and Samurai Summit
As far as shade goes, I think theyre actually really good about it. Cedar Point is WAY worse with this. I actually cant think of any rides that lack shade in the queue.
Airtime Thrills I myself have never had much of an issue with shade but I’ve heard a lot of complaints about it but yeah CP is an oof good thing I went in early June when it was less hot with a fast lane.
I think theming should have made the Cons list. SFMM has always been generic when it comes to theming since my first visit in 1990. It's so plain. Great rides, but no reason to draw you in. Also, last time I bought a season pass was in 2014. To my surprise, the Skytower was open way more than usual that year, complete with museum style historical items on display on the deck. It was amazing, I need to look for the pics. It had been 15 years since I'd been up there at the time. I miss it being open.
TommySawtooth agreed! As impressive as the rides were I was pretty dumbfounded by how bare and unthemed the park was on my first visit. I grew up with Astroworld (RIP) with way weaker rides but the overall experience was so much more magical (pun intended).
I visited LA for the first time last year, we planned a visit to the park on the last day and I was so hyped for it. X2 had been a bucket list coaster ever since I first saw it in the old rollercoaster tycoon games. When we arrived we found out it was closed for the entire day. The park being 9000km from where I live stings pretty hard
As someone who also grew up with this park, you present so many perspectives I've never thought about. Mainly, I always thought walking so much was a completely normal experience in all parks. Honestly now that I think about it, I mentally rank literally every other park I've been to lower because of the lack of walking? Walking so much makes Magic Mountain feel absolutely massive! I'm also super familiar, so when loops are quicker at other parks it makes me feel instantly familiar with the park and that's just boring. Growing up, spending a day at magic mountain was always a test for good shoes. Either I broke them in or I left with blisters (looking at you, converse).
Same I Went there about 2 months ago as a Ms field trip and that was the first ride I got on I was shocked at the drop but rode the ride and it was my all time favorite
I like the drive to Magic Mountain. Its so pretty and it would be nice if they had another entrance. Because walking to the park entrance is such a long walk
I'm a hiker, so I personally don't mind the lack of transportation rides. My top con would be the lack of a ride closure schedule. I almost missed out on TwCol because of that in 2018. The year round schedule makes it easy for me to plan my vacation here on school days and take advantage of having no lines. That makes it my top pro, but it also goes hand in hand with your top 2 pros. The amazing coaster collection and the elite top 2 are why I want to be here on days with no lines. It's now also my # 5 favorite park that I've ever been to.
I got lucky the last time I was there (2013) and was able to go up the observation tower. I had been going there since 2000 and that was the only time I'd been up there or seen it open
This is my favorite Six Flags park and I actually like it even more than Cedar Point because of their bigger and more diverse coaster collection. This was one of five parks I visited while there in 2014 (the other 4 being the two Disney parks, SeaWorld San Diego and Knott's Berry Farm). We did however have to drive almost 90 minutes from Anaheim to visit the park but it was completely 100% worth it.
Six flags great America is my home park. I didn’t realize how good our collection of coasters was till I started traveling around a few years ago. Magic mountain and cedar point rival our collection but very few American parks beat it. Also great America has 3 kiddie coaster, and 3 less intense rides. So kids have tiers to work up to the intense rides.
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Con: the lack of public transportation options to the park. Pro: the nice landscape.
I haven't been there in a LONG time, but the last time I was there, I remember being frustrated with the layout- things seemed scattered chaotically. Even with a map, getting from attraction A to attraction B could be a headache.
If everyone could answer the park surveys and complain about the long uphill walks that would be great. Maybe Six Flags will add a transportation ride, granted it probably would be closed half the time, still would be nice.
Turkey legs are the BEST option for food at Six Flags Magic Mountain, (unless you consider the turkey's feelings.) It's wonderful to discover how you don't get stapled on Twisted Colossus; I suppose that at least the restraints aren't too tight due to the fact that they're trying to be better than Cedar Point. I also got more rides on T.C. than I did on S.V. and and felt more comfortable requesting ride where I wasn't stapled. Let Cedar Point learn the lesson of not stapling its riders on SV. Thanks for this wonderful video!
2:39 ahh yes the firsy kitty ride they had me operate i also was an attendant at Goliath, Drop of Doom, and Full Throttle. once they mad me work as grouper and headset duty at The New Revolution. it was lame lol the lead was kinda mean too
I live in Utah and have been a Six Flags season pass holder for 5 of the past 10 years. I must say that your assessment of the pros and cons at Magic Mountain were spot on. The coaster collection is the reason my family makes multiple trips to Valencia on years that we have a season pass. The price and value of the season pass is also a huge pro for us. The best coasted park we have been to, however, is Cedar Point.
Do this exact video but for Great America, also if American eagle gets RMCd do you think it will be better than Twisted colossus because they're both dueling coasters?
Last time I visited Magic Mountain was back in the '70s, 1978 I think. What I remember most vividly about visiting it in the Summer was (a) the heat and (b) the altitude. If the one didn't get you, the other did..
I worked at SFMM from 98 to 2000. I guess you can call it nostalgia but with exception of twisted colossus I haven’t been on any ride that came in after Goliath, that was the big new coaster when I left. I recently watched a POV of scream and couldn’t help but to laugh at the epic levels of no fucks given to theme the ride area. I really got a kick out of the fact that scream literally dives at what was my favorite parking spot back in 2000 with parking lines visible and all. Can’t they al least throw down some gravel or something🤷🏽♂️
It’s like they weren’t expecting it and just needed to shove the thing somewhere. Hey boss were you expecting a floorless B&M? No Well one just showed up...where you want it? Shit! Uh....uh...just stick it in the employee credit union parking lot
This is a great list!! I too am a local and have been going to this amazing park for 20+ years, also worked there for 4, I’d say the biggest plus that was left off this list is FRIGHT FEST! Six flags magic mountain is the only park that gives you access to all of the rides and scare zones in the whole la oc area. Someone on a budget can go and enjoy the scare zones and stay till 1 am with no extra cost.
Me and my son’s only visit was right when they went 365, we went mid week in a January and, other than Superman and Goliath being down for maintenance, it was amazing not dealing with lines.
Great list. Biggest con is no transportation rides besides Helpful Honda. They knew they needed it when the park was SMALLER than it is today!! Really wish they had a sky bucket or monorail type ride or both again. Or at least another funicular on the riddler side. Sometimes for whatever reason you have to go from back to the front or visa versa for your locker or lunch or whatever, currently itsthe only thing I super don’t like. Besides the sky tower being closed!! I love Scream and Goliath btw...so for me the collection is definitely awesome. Some more trees in some areas would be good, log hammer area now full throttle used to be SO much nicer.
lmao the parking! I go like 2 or 3 times a year but the walk to the park from the lot is pretty much part of the experience at this point. You get used to it 😂
I agree with you on needing a second entrance. The walk to either Magic Mountain or Hurricane Harbor is fine once you get there but it is a long, tiring walk when you leave. They also need another transportation system at least on west side of the park. Walking up that hill by Goldrusher just to get to Ninja and Superman is murder.
If I were in charge and we’re able to, I’d build a parking garage for the park close by and replace the current parking lot with a lake, like in the Step By Step intro.
I went to magic mountain for my high school grad night last year, I’m weak at rollercoasters (only really going to Knotts) but twisted colossus was amazing 😔👌 a long, enjoyable and not too scary ride that a ghost rider lover like me enjoyed immensely!
Great Adventure is 2.5 miles off a major interstate, and the park is right off a 3 lane road with only 2 or 3 traffic lights before you get to the park. By the time you get to parking at Magic Mountain (not preferred parking, cause I always forget to book it), it takes just as long to park at both parks.
Great video. We are a small coaster group of 6 people that frequent the mountain every other week. California Coaster Enthusiasts on Facebook. Your perspective seems right along with ours in your pros and cons. You should join us someday. Great video.
I live about 2 minute drive away, just on the other side of the 5. For me a big pro that goes hand in hand with the amount of coasters, is the scaling. I'm very new to coasters. I was terrified of them for years. My bro got a pass to Magic Mountain and started taking me, and it's been VERY easy to climb up, of course starting with the smaller ones like Revolution and Ninja, then being forced onto Twisted Colossus - which is now my favorite ride!! I'm still working up to the really big ones, and doubt that I'll ever make it to X2, but their selection is perfect for people trying to introduce themselves to "bigger" rides as so many are just like, one step up from the last. I really appreciate that part Edit: I do miss the log flume though!! I get sad when those go away for coasters, they're great rides in their own rite
Mr Coller Roaster how about if you thought your home Park was getting a Zamperla Family Gravity but ended up getting your Chance Big Dipper relocated and rethemed.
Six Flags has become such a cheap park. There is a few good looking Six Flags parks, but most look terrible. But hey I guess Cedar Fair does the same with parks like Michigans Adventure so it is what it is
Yeah SFMM is an amazing park. I agree they need to invest on the 2 main cons, get the observation tower working again and invest in some transport. I did hear alot of rumors about the observation tower during the summer simply because of the high winds, or someone purposefully trying to jump off from the more open lower level, or could have some metal fatigue. Even a simple funicular that replaced the Dragon (the station is still there), and connected the top of the mountain would help. I remember my knees and my legs killing me after a day at the park due to the walking. When the monorail worked, it was a rarity. With the observation tower, personally they should tear it down and then build a Stratosphere-esque type of tower where you put a revolving restaurant at the top and then add either the Fish-hook roller coaster Arrow was designing or put a drop tower on top of it.
You make great points, and I agree with all of them. I will say the one think I wish SFMM doesn't do is include their kiddy coaster as one of the 19. Not bashing kiddy coasters, that's where I got my start. But as someone who is too old for them and doesn't have a kid, I would like to boast that I've been on all their coasters.
Energylandia has 15 coasters and is going to grow 5 times it's current size with more coasters, a hotel and even a karp museum... Right now they are building 2 coasters and a Disc O and there is already track in stock for a tilt coaster or a mine train coaster...
When I worked at Magic Mountain recently, they said they went 365 because of advertising. California gets a lot of tourists from Asia and it’s easier to advertise to them if you’re open every day for some reason.
Six Flags Great Adventure: I'm so far off the highway, you have to drive through a forest Alton Towers: Hold my beer That park is so far off the motorway, you end up driving through fields, past the JCB headquarters (and almost passing TPW) and through an entire village to get there.
Cje3097 _ I had a ride op on Superman who saw me scoot back right as the train was about to dispatch and he actually walked back over to push my lap bar down before giving the all clear, and I already was in a position where it was super tight on my legs to begin with
I'm glad Canada's Wonderland doesn't have lockers for their major rides. Leviathan, Behemoth, and Yukon Striker all have bins on the ride platform, and Yukon Striker's is amazing, since your bins are locked on to the train that you are on, so it's convenient for you at the end. The only ride where you do need a locker is Wonder Mountain's Guardian. And that's pretty much it for lockers at Canada's Wonderland for rides. The only other set I know is at the water park and at the front of the park, and that's about it. I'm glad Canada's Wonderland has many of their rides with bins on the platforms. In terms of stapling at Canada's Wonderland, I don't complain, since I'm not that strict with getting that much airtime, and since I don't have stuff in my pockets, I'm alright, but I see where you're coming from. They do staple you, but I still feel weightless somehow and some of the rides I get.
I live in europe and when I had the chance to visit six flag magic Mountain in june 2009 my experience sadly wasn't that great. I only managed to ride 4 rides which was mainly due to slow one train operations on a busy friday. I stood 3.5 hours in line for Terminator salvation (I think now its called apocalypse), 3 hours for x2 and another 3 hours for tatsu the last ride the old colossus was the only ride we were able to almost walk on. So we rode it twice. In the end all rides were great and I will never forget how awesome X2 and Tatsu were. But in the end what really disappointed me were the length of the ride. I was used to German parks with coasters having usually pretty long ridetimes. Even if I was standing in line vor 2.5-3 hours for the most hyped coasters I would get ridetimes 90-120 sec out of them. Both X2 and Tatsu disappointed me in that regard, the rides were great but both times when I hit the break run I was like, wait thats it. I waited this long for auch a short ride?
I’ve wanted to go since I heard about the real ease of “X” all those years ago, but sadly I’ve only been to California once and there wasn’t time to do a theme park during our visit 😔 One day though, MM and Cedar Point are on my “must visit” list
Top Five Roller Coaster Collections 1: Cedar Point (No-Brainer. Millennium Force, Steel Vengeance, Maverick, Top Thrill Dragster, and Magnum XL-200 all in one park? Instanity.) 2: Six Flags Magic Mountain (Having the most coasters in the world will put you in the top five. If it wasn't for the sheer quality of the coasters at Cedar Point, this would probably be number one.) 3: Hersheypark (The addition of Candymonium gives them a really well rounded collection. They never cared about records. They always focused on building high quality roller coasters and their lineup is elite because of it.) 4: Six Flags Great Adventure (A homer pick, but the El Toro/Nitro combo is one of the best top two of any park, really only bested by Cedar Point and maybe Carowinds. Kingda Ka is a blast, Bizarro is criminally underrated, and Green Lantern is one of the better stand up roller coasters out there. Jersey Devil could potentially push this park into the top three when it opens.) 5: Six Flags Great America (This park really gained some momentum this past decade. The additions of X-Flight, Goliath, and Maxx Force have taken Great America from a great Six Flags park to one of the best parks in the country.)
My prob with six flags magic mountain is all of the coasters. I love when a park has a lot of coasters but I prefer quality over quantity Edit: Cedar fair has less but better Six Flags has more but worse, not bad but lesser that cedar fair
Also, about Knott's: it actually does have good freeway access, you're just taking the wrong one there: instead of going down the I-5 there, take the I-405 south to the CA-91 east, and get off at Beach Blvd. Then you can just drive straight down the road to the park.
Hellacia actually he'd have to take the 5 to the 605 to the 91to Beach Blvd. The 91 ends @ the 110 and turns into Artesia Blvd when it gets to the 405. Either way, those are the longer routes than actually staying on the 5 to Beach Blvd.
I think I figured out why they don't have scheduled maintnance for their rides. In typical Six Flags fashion, they are trying to make the most money and squeze every dollar out of you. They likely assume that they will have lower attendance on days where popular ride is closed. In your case, Tatsu, Twisted Colossus, X2, Full throttle, and Goliath(for the GP) . Also, I f someone who is traveling visits the park when a ride is closed, it is likely that they will feel the need to come back and Six Flags would make money off of their second visit to the park.
Magic Mountain has ONE entrance? damn. My home park is Phantasialand, which, if you don't know that park, is pretty fucking small, and we have 3 entrances (one in the front were the busses go and two in the back, one for each parking lot).
Pro: Too many coasters
Con: Too many coasters
Pac Evoez ye because it’s hard to get on all 20 of them in one day
Accurate
@@mrthelwulf4566 It's Time for Magic Mountain to build a resort as a better alternative to the Hilton Garden Inn.
@@mrthelwulf4566 Yeah I hear that. More like impossible. Whenever I hear about people going to MM for the first time, the first thing I tell them is to plan for more than one day if they want to get everything done. I don't care if you get there when the park opens and you stay until closing and you skip all meals. One day will not work. The park is too big, too busy, and has too many rides for one day. I made the mistake once of going in mid-August (never again), which is probably one of the busiest times of the year for them and it took 1.5 hours just to get on Riddler's Revenge!
@@soccerty1214 I remember me and my friends went there on a day when there was practically no one there. We got there as soon as it opened and left until it closed, and we were able to get on most rides, except Apocalypse. Honestly idk how we did it, we ran all over the place and managed to beat a few lines before they got packed. Safe to say alot of screaming and rushing went on that day
Pros: It’s awesome.
Cons: The year is currently 2020.
Thatsmallcessna honestly 🙄 i was planning to go so many times this year to use up my season pass but noooo corona wanted to come
@@44nt I had a season pass for Cedar Point
This’ll never pass...
Y4123 when the days are closed over at six flags the days aren’t being used up i’ll get extra days in 2021
I visited for the first time ever in 2019, December. I lucked out, all the main thrill rides were operating, even WCR was open to Diamond members. I think this is the best park in the six flags chain. Yes 2020 and corona have torpedoed my park visits for sure.
Pro: Has the most coasters out of any theme park!
Con: You can’t ride any of them currently.
Man, thanks for the likes!
Con: Quantity over quality.
@@Clay3613 X2, TC, and Tatsu are all top-tier coasters, and a lot of the others are really good. There are a couple really bad ones, but most of that is personal preference.
he he (sighs in depression)
Kurt E. Clothier Tatsu is my second favorite ride at the park.
Magic Mountain: Has the most Coasters in the World.
Energylandia: Hold my Vodka, I'm gonna ruin this parks whole career.
Well possibly in 2025
@cruddy coaster content This. So far 2016 was the only year they added only a single Coaster (Formula), every other year was 2 or 3. And that is in addition to Flatrides, improvements on Theming throughout the Park and expansions on their Water Park. They simply don't seem to stop building. I have seen pictures of Mine Train track already being on site, and that's the known 2021 Coaster, so who knows what else they already decided to build or at least considering.
@@ween6301 Thank you for the laugh of the day. Energylandia has a very well rounded Lineup. Yes, they have more Kiddie Coasters than most Parks, but they have more Coasters than most Parks too. They currently have 3 High Thrills Coasters (Hyperion, Zadra, Mayan) with2 being borderline Family / High Thrills (Speed, Formula). They have 5 Coasters that I would put as Kiddie Coasters and 5 Family Coasters. By the looks of it Abyssus is going to be more of a Higher Thrill Coaster with another Family Coaster planned to open this year and a Mine Train already confirmed for next year.
Like it or not, Energylandia is a Park for the whole Family and that Shows in their Coaster Lineup. And you have to keep in mind that Poland is still pretty new to the whole Theme Park concept. Prior to Energylandia they pretty much only had what is now known as Legendia and a handful of Luna Parks and Family Entertainment Centers. We are talking about a country where in 2015 a SLC opened as the Countries highest Coaster, beating their back then Record Holder by 13.3 Meters.
Not quite yet
@@ween6301 Which Means Magic Mountain is still a true coaster park, Europe thinks thy can outdo America.
“I have waited a long time for this moment”
My little green friend
@@gabrielalvarado3348 your faith in your new apprentice, misplaced may be
Airtime Thrills: SFMM will soon be the first park to have 20 coasters
Energylandia: Hold my beer
That'd be crazy if Energylandia makes 5 more coasters before Magic Mountain makes 1 lol but if anybody is gonna do it it'd definitely be Energylandia haha (yes yes I know they're supposed to have 18 by 2021 but with Covid here that can always change)
They have so much filler. 8 kiddie/family coasters
Haha energylandia will be the 2nd but most likely the first with 21. Zadra and Hyperion are top tier coasters tho that I wish were at SFMM .
@@notffrenchy Yeah so in Reality Magic Mountain being the first to hit 20 will be worth it for real 16 adult/family coasters, and 4 very different kiddie coasters :D
Secret: If you live near Magic Mountain, and go to school near there, go on Tuesdays in the afternoons. Everything is no more than a station wait.
Ry Gar!
I used to do that at six flags great America. After school I’d literally walk to six flags, my school was a 15 minute walk from great America. I’d leave my stuff in my locker and just take my cup.
@@XGaming1 Just out of curiosity, where'd you go to school? (I went to St. Lawrence for awhile...)
Of course, I'm old enough to remember Great America when it first opened, long before Six Flags took it over. In some ways, it was a lot more fun back then. Not as tacky or overcrowded (or expensive.)
Dont give away the secret!
I do that lol
The biggest pros of the park are X2 and Twisted Colossus.
The biggest con of this park was Green Lantern.
Toxin of meeenes Well Green Lantern is gone now and men are no longer losing their ability to have children from that nut buster.
@Salvador Luna as a guy, riddler's is perfectly fine if you know how to set the restraints
Legomaster1289 Riddler hurts a tad, but if you leave yourself some slack you are ok. I just hate the front row on Riddler for some reason.
Chris: I go the Magic Mountain at least once a week
COVID-19: Hello there
Apocalypse, Twisted Colossus, and Riddlers Revenges we’re all down the only time I’ve been there. I’d love a page on their websites to show close times!
Are we not counting the parking lot tram as a transportation ride?
well it has to be in the park but ig??
I wouldn't expect to see you here
Pro: it has the most coasters
Con: it’s owned by Six Flags
Yeah with Six Flags parks you go for the coasters and absolutely nothing else
Y4123 thats all we need
Tommy Coaster 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@tommycoaster1911 agreed
@@tommycoaster1911 I have to disagree. Although coasters are the main reason I go to theme parks, I much prefer the Universal Orlando parks because they have enough thrills and great employees, and some of the best theming in the world. Also, parks like Magic Mountain and Great Adventure are tricky because you need two days to do all of the coasters, but they aren't really resorts and for travelers, staying a night is strange.
Airtime thrills: it’s great cause they have two freestyle machine locations
Cedar point: this year we’re also adding 7 more, giving is a total of 30 stations
Wow really?
I don’t know but there’s a lot
There’s one by most coasters and almost every restaurant
So Cedar Point has 3 stand alone Freestyle Buildings, one by Gatekeeper, one in the Gemini Midway and the last is over by Maverick. All 3 have 6 Freestyle Machines. So there’s 18 right there, and they have at least 2 in every dine in Restaurant, and then more scattered throughout their other food stands. So it would be safe to say Cedar Point has at least 50 Freestyle Machines
@@tmb2163 well now we know where the extra money we pay for tickets goes
“One entrance.”
Not even, destroy the regular entrance and make the entrance by Scream.
Thh yeah because you won’t hear that much screaming unless they are scared.
An excuse to not do homework 😂
Magic mountain has both quantity and quality. Went for the first time December 19’ and wished we had another day!! We got two ‘perfect duels’ on both the green and blue side of colossus and freaking loved it!
Awesome pros and cons video!
A few other cons I thought of
-Lack of shade and Rain Cover
-Some outdated areas still with the entrance and Samurai Summit
As far as shade goes, I think theyre actually really good about it. Cedar Point is WAY worse with this. I actually cant think of any rides that lack shade in the queue.
Airtime Thrills I myself have never had much of an issue with shade but I’ve heard a lot of complaints about it but yeah CP is an oof good thing I went in early June when it was less hot with a fast lane.
There's so many trees there that it isn't a huge issue even when walking around
I think theming should have made the Cons list. SFMM has always been generic when it comes to theming since my first visit in 1990. It's so plain. Great rides, but no reason to draw you in.
Also, last time I bought a season pass was in 2014. To my surprise, the Skytower was open way more than usual that year, complete with museum style historical items on display on the deck. It was amazing, I need to look for the pics. It had been 15 years since I'd been up there at the time. I miss it being open.
TommySawtooth agreed! As impressive as the rides were I was pretty dumbfounded by how bare and unthemed the park was on my first visit. I grew up with Astroworld (RIP) with way weaker rides but the overall experience was so much more magical (pun intended).
I visited LA for the first time last year, we planned a visit to the park on the last day and I was so hyped for it. X2 had been a bucket list coaster ever since I first saw it in the old rollercoaster tycoon games. When we arrived we found out it was closed for the entire day.
The park being 9000km from where I live stings pretty hard
Same thing happened with me, but with Twisted Colossus
I wish I could pop over to a park ON FOOT whenever I desire. How fun!!!
As someone who also grew up with this park, you present so many perspectives I've never thought about. Mainly, I always thought walking so much was a completely normal experience in all parks. Honestly now that I think about it, I mentally rank literally every other park I've been to lower because of the lack of walking? Walking so much makes Magic Mountain feel absolutely massive! I'm also super familiar, so when loops are quicker at other parks it makes me feel instantly familiar with the park and that's just boring.
Growing up, spending a day at magic mountain was always a test for good shoes. Either I broke them in or I left with blisters (looking at you, converse).
Con: SIX FLAGS IS TOO CHEAP TO GIVE US A GIGA OR A DECENT HYPER
Concept_nothing 818 unfortunately
Pros : So many coasters.
Cons : Couldn't re-ride any coaster on my only short week day in october...
Pro : most coasters in the world.
*Energylandia looks through the blinds sneakily...
I personally loved Goliath. It was my first coaster I rode at the park and I thought the first drop was great.
I agree with you
Christian Stathopoulos i do as well and Titan at six flags Texas
Same I Went there about 2 months ago as a Ms field trip and that was the first ride I got on I was shocked at the drop but rode the ride and it was my all time favorite
Adding a second entrance between scream and TC is such a good idea!
I like the drive to Magic Mountain. Its so pretty and it would be nice if they had another entrance. Because walking to the park entrance is such a long walk
I'm a hiker, so I personally don't mind the lack of transportation rides. My top con would be the lack of a ride closure schedule. I almost missed out on TwCol because of that in 2018.
The year round schedule makes it easy for me to plan my vacation here on school days and take advantage of having no lines. That makes it my top pro, but it also goes hand in hand with your top 2 pros. The amazing coaster collection and the elite top 2 are why I want to be here on days with no lines. It's now also my # 5 favorite park that I've ever been to.
I got lucky the last time I was there (2013) and was able to go up the observation tower. I had been going there since 2000 and that was the only time I'd been up there or seen it open
Literally I live by SFMM. On weekdays when the park closes at 6 and I get there at 5 I still ride more coasters than I would on a weekend at the park.
I bet coaster collection is first.
Edit: I was right.
This is my favorite Six Flags park and I actually like it even more than Cedar Point because of their bigger and more diverse coaster collection. This was one of five parks I visited while there in 2014 (the other 4 being the two Disney parks, SeaWorld San Diego and Knott's Berry Farm). We did however have to drive almost 90 minutes from Anaheim to visit the park but it was completely 100% worth it.
Six flags great America is my home park. I didn’t realize how good our collection of coasters was till I started traveling around a few years ago. Magic mountain and cedar point rival our collection but very few American parks beat it. Also great America has 3 kiddie coaster, and 3 less intense rides. So kids have tiers to work up to the intense rides.
Con: the lack of public transportation options to the park. Pro: the nice landscape.
I haven't been there in a LONG time, but the last time I was there, I remember being frustrated with the layout- things seemed scattered chaotically. Even with a map, getting from attraction A to attraction B could be a headache.
The park is a circle but there are offshoots that could be confusing
I cant believe that Six Flags named a transportation ride 'Helpful Honda Express' 😂
Luca 2512 sponsorship.
It’s sponsored by Honda. In fact, all the coasters are sponsored by brands. Twix: X2. Chick-Fil-A: Full Throttle.
August Macias now if only if they could have a certain retired skateboarder sponsor Pandemonium.
🤑🤑🤑
@@DoswarePictures Yea, I still refer to Pandemonium at SFOT as 'Tony Hawk'/'Tony Hawk's Big Spin' because we rode it when it was still very new.
If everyone could answer the park surveys and complain about the long uphill walks that would be great. Maybe Six Flags will add a transportation ride, granted it probably would be closed half the time, still would be nice.
I personally think the best six flags park is great America. It’s very well rounded.
I like sfmm better but i agree sfgam is very well rounded
Turkey legs are the BEST option for food at Six Flags Magic Mountain, (unless you consider the turkey's feelings.) It's wonderful to discover how you don't get stapled on Twisted Colossus; I suppose that at least the restraints aren't too tight due to the fact that they're trying to be better than Cedar Point. I also got more rides on T.C. than I did on S.V. and and felt more comfortable requesting ride where I wasn't stapled. Let Cedar Point learn the lesson of not stapling its riders on SV. Thanks for this wonderful video!
You should do a pros & cons video for Outlaw Run
2:39 ahh yes the firsy kitty ride they had me operate i also was an attendant at Goliath, Drop of Doom, and Full Throttle. once they mad me work as grouper and headset duty at The New Revolution. it was lame lol the lead was kinda mean too
I live in Utah and have been a Six Flags season pass holder for 5 of the past 10 years. I must say that your assessment of the pros and cons at Magic Mountain were spot on. The coaster collection is the reason my family makes multiple trips to Valencia on years that we have a season pass. The price and value of the season pass is also a huge pro for us. The best coasted park we have been to, however, is Cedar Point.
Needs a Giga and personally I really want something like time traveler.
Salvador Luna THAT PART!!
*B&M?, INTAMIN?, ARE YOU READING THIS?!!!!*
Do this exact video but for Great America, also if American eagle gets RMCd do you think it will be better than Twisted colossus because they're both dueling coasters?
Jared Alba unless it gets the Storm Chaser/Iron Gwazi treatment.
I have never been to magic mountain or knotts and they are definitely my two biggest bucket list parks
Last time I visited Magic Mountain was back in the '70s, 1978 I think. What I remember most vividly about visiting it in the Summer was (a) the heat and (b) the altitude. If the one didn't get you, the other did..
I worked at SFMM from 98 to 2000. I guess you can call it nostalgia but with exception of twisted colossus I haven’t been on any ride that came in after Goliath, that was the big new coaster when I left.
I recently watched a POV of scream and couldn’t help but to laugh at the epic levels of no fucks given to theme the ride area. I really got a kick out of the fact that scream literally dives at what was my favorite parking spot back in 2000 with parking lines visible and all. Can’t they al least throw down some gravel or something🤷🏽♂️
They could have at least taken the parking lines off
It’s like they weren’t expecting it and just needed to shove the thing somewhere.
Hey boss were you expecting a floorless B&M?
No
Well one just showed up...where you want it?
Shit! Uh....uh...just stick it in the employee credit union parking lot
This is a great list!! I too am a local and have been going to this amazing park for 20+ years, also worked there for 4, I’d say the biggest plus that was left off this list is FRIGHT FEST! Six flags magic mountain is the only park that gives you access to all of the rides and scare zones in the whole la oc area. Someone on a budget can go and enjoy the scare zones and stay till 1 am with no extra cost.
Me and my son’s only visit was right when they went 365, we went mid week in a January and, other than Superman and Goliath being down for maintenance, it was amazing not dealing with lines.
I also live a couple miles from magic, I'd love to meet up and ride a couple rides once this covid crisis is less of a concern!
Great list. Biggest con is no transportation rides besides Helpful Honda. They knew they needed it when the park was SMALLER than it is today!! Really wish they had a sky bucket or monorail type ride or both again. Or at least another funicular on the riddler side. Sometimes for whatever reason you have to go from back to the front or visa versa for your locker or lunch or whatever, currently itsthe only thing I super don’t like. Besides the sky tower being closed!! I love Scream and Goliath btw...so for me the collection is definitely awesome. Some more trees in some areas would be good, log hammer area now full throttle used to be SO much nicer.
Knotts is right next to the 91 though :) still easy! But I feel you
Yeah I'm not complaining, just saying how SFMM is litetally sitting on the 5
I would love to see more Pros and Cons videos about parks!!
lmao the parking! I go like 2 or 3 times a year but the walk to the park from the lot is pretty much part of the experience at this point. You get used to it 😂
I agree with you on needing a second entrance. The walk to either Magic Mountain or Hurricane Harbor is fine once you get there but it is a long, tiring walk when you leave.
They also need another transportation system at least on west side of the park. Walking up that hill by Goldrusher just to get to Ninja and Superman is murder.
I'm not sure if you have done this or not, but you should do a strategy video of where to go in the park at what time to avoid lines and such
Twisted, X2 and Goliath are my favorite rides 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
If I were in charge and we’re able to, I’d build a parking garage for the park close by and replace the current parking lot with a lake, like in the Step By Step intro.
That was the supposed to be the ocean I believe judging by the waves.
Troy Visser (HBHS) actually it’s supposed to be Lake Michigan, it takes place in Wisconsin.
Or a giga but you know
Airtime Thrills Bruh they need a B&M airtime machine because Gio-Vanilla just isn’t working for me
Airtime Thrills *NOW YOU'RE TALKIN'!!!!*
Keep up the good work and stay safe everyone! ❤️🎢
Chris is better than ElToroRyan and Coaster Studios . Pin this if you agree Chris.
I want to go here so bad. Saving my Trump check to go
Trent Wilson now that’s a way to spend it!
@@DoswarePictures yessir
“People will come from out of town to see that X2 is down.”
My first day here in a nutshell
I went to magic mountain for my high school grad night last year, I’m weak at rollercoasters (only really going to Knotts) but twisted colossus was amazing 😔👌 a long, enjoyable and not too scary ride that a ghost rider lover like me enjoyed immensely!
when Dude Perfect and Airtime Thrills post at the same time and I don't know what to watch
Ejector Air Coasters easy choice no 🧢
Easy Airtime Thrills and it happened to me too
lol i picked airtime
Same
@@beau_thielen IDK if people say they're over, I love DP... almost as much as I love Airtime Thrills. I also picked this lol
It sucks that you got stapler at wonderland because it’s my home park and I don’t normally get stapled. That is unlucky
Could have been the ride ops that day
I remember driving past this park a few years ago and not being able to go because I had no idea it exited, lol
Interesting that Justice League requires you to ride with your cup. Both SFOG’s and SFGADV’s have cup holders off to the side.
Same with SFSTL
Great Adventure is 2.5 miles off a major interstate, and the park is right off a 3 lane road with only 2 or 3 traffic lights before you get to the park. By the time you get to parking at Magic Mountain (not preferred parking, cause I always forget to book it), it takes just as long to park at both parks.
Biggest Con: NO GIGA COASTER
Eternal Depression Biggest con: NO GIGA
*EVEN BIGGER CON: DON'T HAVE THREE GIGAS!!!!*
It sucks that 2/3 of the parks you mentioned for stapling are my home parks. Texas has a major stapling problem that must be fixed
Great video. We are a small coaster group of 6 people that frequent the mountain every other week. California Coaster Enthusiasts on Facebook. Your perspective seems right along with ours in your pros and cons. You should join us someday. Great video.
hey airtime thrills if they RMC Boss at st louis will you be back out there to check it out
I'll be back regardless
I live about 2 minute drive away, just on the other side of the 5. For me a big pro that goes hand in hand with the amount of coasters, is the scaling. I'm very new to coasters. I was terrified of them for years. My bro got a pass to Magic Mountain and started taking me, and it's been VERY easy to climb up, of course starting with the smaller ones like Revolution and Ninja, then being forced onto Twisted Colossus - which is now my favorite ride!!
I'm still working up to the really big ones, and doubt that I'll ever make it to X2, but their selection is perfect for people trying to introduce themselves to "bigger" rides as so many are just like, one step up from the last. I really appreciate that part
Edit: I do miss the log flume though!! I get sad when those go away for coasters, they're great rides in their own rite
had no idea you were local, that's cool! i've lived in scv my whole life and only been there once! i wanna go more once covid slows down
Pin this comment if you hate vekoma SLCs and zamperla volares!
Mr Coller Roaster how about if you thought your home Park was getting a Zamperla Family Gravity but ended up getting your Chance Big Dipper relocated and rethemed.
Six Flags has become such a cheap park. There is a few good looking Six Flags parks, but most look terrible. But hey I guess Cedar Fair does the same with parks like Michigans Adventure so it is what it is
Yeah SFMM is an amazing park. I agree they need to invest on the 2 main cons, get the observation tower working again and invest in some transport. I did hear alot of rumors about the observation tower during the summer simply because of the high winds, or someone purposefully trying to jump off from the more open lower level, or could have some metal fatigue. Even a simple funicular that replaced the Dragon (the station is still there), and connected the top of the mountain would help. I remember my knees and my legs killing me after a day at the park due to the walking. When the monorail worked, it was a rarity. With the observation tower, personally they should tear it down and then build a Stratosphere-esque type of tower where you put a revolving restaurant at the top and then add either the Fish-hook roller coaster Arrow was designing or put a drop tower on top of it.
Fun fact: in the South, the fast food chicken restaurant Zaxby’s have Coke Freestyle also, normally two of them.
You make great points, and I agree with all of them. I will say the one think I wish SFMM doesn't do is include their kiddy coaster as one of the 19. Not bashing kiddy coasters, that's where I got my start. But as someone who is too old for them and doesn't have a kid, I would like to boast that I've been on all their coasters.
Energylandia has 15 coasters and is going to grow 5 times it's current size with more coasters, a hotel and even a karp museum... Right now they are building 2 coasters and a Disc O and there is already track in stock for a tilt coaster or a mine train coaster...
I had like 3" of room on Full Throttle and it was actually pretty crazy hanging on the loop. The ride ops scored points with me on that one!
When I worked at Magic Mountain recently, they said they went 365 because of advertising. California gets a lot of tourists from Asia and it’s easier to advertise to them if you’re open every day for some reason.
Six Flags Great Adventure: I'm so far off the highway, you have to drive through a forest
Alton Towers: Hold my beer
That park is so far off the motorway, you end up driving through fields, past the JCB headquarters (and almost passing TPW) and through an entire village to get there.
Great Adventure isn’t even that far from 195 tho
The New England ops are staple happy as well... So RIP my shins (wicked cyclone) and my hopes and dreams (getting u brick stapled on Superman)
Cje3097 _ I had a ride op on Superman who saw me scoot back right as the train was about to dispatch and he actually walked back over to push my lap bar down before giving the all clear, and I already was in a position where it was super tight on my legs to begin with
In 2015 this happened to me at SFNE. But 2018 they were better
Do cedar point next
After my next visit
I live 15 minutes away and go with my friends but nobody shares my views lol, good to hear at least someone does
do u live in granada?
I'm glad Canada's Wonderland doesn't have lockers for their major rides. Leviathan, Behemoth, and Yukon Striker all have bins on the ride platform, and Yukon Striker's is amazing, since your bins are locked on to the train that you are on, so it's convenient for you at the end. The only ride where you do need a locker is Wonder Mountain's Guardian. And that's pretty much it for lockers at Canada's Wonderland for rides. The only other set I know is at the water park and at the front of the park, and that's about it. I'm glad Canada's Wonderland has many of their rides with bins on the platforms. In terms of stapling at Canada's Wonderland, I don't complain, since I'm not that strict with getting that much airtime, and since I don't have stuff in my pockets, I'm alright, but I see where you're coming from. They do staple you, but I still feel weightless somehow and some of the rides I get.
Nobody:
Six flags magic mountain when out of quarantine: 3:04
15:10 energylandia will go crazy and add like 5 kiddie coasters next year to beat SFMM
I live in europe and when I had the chance to visit six flag magic Mountain in june 2009 my experience sadly wasn't that great. I only managed to ride 4 rides which was mainly due to slow one train operations on a busy friday. I stood 3.5 hours in line for Terminator salvation (I think now its called apocalypse), 3 hours for x2 and another 3 hours for tatsu the last ride the old colossus was the only ride we were able to almost walk on. So we rode it twice. In the end all rides were great and I will never forget how awesome X2 and Tatsu were. But in the end what really disappointed me were the length of the ride. I was used to German parks with coasters having usually pretty long ridetimes. Even if I was standing in line vor 2.5-3 hours for the most hyped coasters I would get ridetimes 90-120 sec out of them. Both X2 and Tatsu disappointed me in that regard, the rides were great but both times when I hit the break run I was like, wait thats it. I waited this long for auch a short ride?
0:52 Alton towers: this battle will be legendary
only cons I had when visiting the park: weak theming and not very clean (toilets, restaurants, walkways etc)
else its still heaven on earth for me
Kind of funny how the most chill part of the country has the most chill ride ops
I’ve wanted to go since I heard about the real ease of “X” all those years ago, but sadly I’ve only been to California once and there wasn’t time to do a theme park during our visit 😔
One day though, MM and Cedar Point are on my “must visit” list
Top Five Roller Coaster Collections
1: Cedar Point (No-Brainer. Millennium Force, Steel Vengeance, Maverick, Top Thrill Dragster, and Magnum XL-200 all in one park? Instanity.)
2: Six Flags Magic Mountain (Having the most coasters in the world will put you in the top five. If it wasn't for the sheer quality of the coasters at Cedar Point, this would probably be number one.)
3: Hersheypark (The addition of Candymonium gives them a really well rounded collection. They never cared about records. They always focused on building high quality roller coasters and their lineup is elite because of it.)
4: Six Flags Great Adventure (A homer pick, but the El Toro/Nitro combo is one of the best top two of any park, really only bested by Cedar Point and maybe Carowinds. Kingda Ka is a blast, Bizarro is criminally underrated, and Green Lantern is one of the better stand up roller coasters out there. Jersey Devil could potentially push this park into the top three when it opens.)
5: Six Flags Great America (This park really gained some momentum this past decade. The additions of X-Flight, Goliath, and Maxx Force have taken Great America from a great Six Flags park to one of the best parks in the country.)
love fiesta texas, the wait times in line are never very long.
My prob with six flags magic mountain is all of the coasters. I love when a park has a lot of coasters but I prefer quality over quantity
Edit: Cedar fair has less but better
Six Flags has more but worse, not bad but lesser that cedar fair
the rides at six flags aren't horrible. i bet if they weren't poor they could have better quality rides
Also, about Knott's: it actually does have good freeway access, you're just taking the wrong one there: instead of going down the I-5 there, take the I-405 south to the CA-91 east, and get off at Beach Blvd. Then you can just drive straight down the road to the park.
Hellacia actually he'd have to take the 5 to the 605 to the 91to Beach Blvd.
The 91 ends @ the 110 and turns into Artesia Blvd when it gets to the 405.
Either way, those are the longer routes than actually staying on the 5 to Beach Blvd.
I think I figured out why they don't have scheduled maintnance for their rides. In typical Six Flags fashion, they are trying to make the most money and squeze every dollar out of you. They likely assume that they will have lower attendance on days where popular ride is closed. In your case, Tatsu, Twisted Colossus, X2, Full throttle, and Goliath(for the GP) . Also, I f someone who is traveling visits the park when a ride is closed, it is likely that they will feel the need to come back and Six Flags would make money off of their second visit to the park.
Magic Mountain has ONE entrance? damn. My home park is Phantasialand, which, if you don't know that park, is pretty fucking small, and we have 3 entrances (one in the front were the busses go and two in the back, one for each parking lot).