I swear to god when I was looking at this photo, I was like “I swear to god I fuckin know that guy from somewhere” and then I saw your comment, I felt so dumb lol
Yea you're right! This is that era when John out from rehab with this hair style on1997. And not just look like but his sound also like on the Banyan - La Sirena record...same reggae rhythm style in my opinion. ruclips.net/video/qURiTiqFb9o/видео.html What's u think?
It’s funny to imagine how the conversation and planning went after this: Flea and John: yeah, I think we’ve still gotta play a bit with the melodic lines and see what works best, and maybe switch up the beat a bit, what do you think Chad? Chad: definitely, I got some ideas to change stuff… what about you Anthony? I feel like some lyrics could be polished up a bit.. you gonna change anything? Anthony: nah, I’m good.
This is so intersesting! to hear And to think of how they perfected the final version from this demo is amazing! John and Flea created magic on this album. Going for less is more worked and it has worked ever since! Big love!
@@matiasdominguez2076 And I’m saying it’s interesting to see how they got from this to the final version. It’s easy to write music around lyrics with no melody ain’t it ‘bro’?! 😂✌🏼
I dig the demo and definitely love seeing songs transform. Willing to bet Rick Rubin had an exceptional influence on transforming this tune into what it became.
@@andersonfernandes7982 True! Rick Ruben has ‘moulded’ a lot of songs for bands and artists. He pushes them in other directions when bands /artists get stuck… (Writer’s block).👍🏼
This song has that type of cool-summery theme you hear on a lot of other Californication tracks, the finalized version has a much more dramatic sound to it.
O jonh recria melodias, vai modificando e ao fim temos um novo som, amo isso. É maravilhoso ficar tentando caprar qual foi a referência. Californication tentou ser Ramones, mas acabou se influenciando em the who
Anthony Keidis doesnt get much credit, he thought of the vocal melody for this song and it took the rest of the band a long time to understand what works with it.
So the difference between chilis back then and chilis now is right here in this demo. Last two albums are full of californication demos, pleasant enough sounding, nothing special. Old chilis found the genius magic, the genius riff/baseline/whatever that turned the demos into all time classics.
Well put, actually. When I listened to Unlimited Love, I mostly enjoyed it, but absolutely nothing stood out to me. The whole album felt like I was in a bar and there was just a band jamming in the backround. It was good music, they are all great musicians, but I also haven't revisited any song from that album since.
@@theomnitorium7476 yeah. They just don’t have it anymore. It’s like de Niro after the mid 90s compared to before. But tbh I think they were great for 20 years, can’t say that about many bands
@@RoadTripperrr Because i think their motivation now is more financial, hence John rejoining. Before I think (at least John) they were doing it for the passion and love for creating art.
@@stevenm2699 I don't believe their motivation is financial at all. They are over 60 years old. They don't need to make any new music. But they do because they love what they do.
this demo really shows importance of producer during recording seasion. if not for the rick rubin, we would never had the californication version we love today.
@@ZackMahalati sure frusciante made final arrangment (btw he was inspired by the Cure riff in his final version) but it was rick rubin that pushed him to do it. othwerwise they might have just settled with this version and move on
It’s interesting mix of Scar Tissie and BSSM. Introduce that demo was added to album like end result. It would be another song, which had another mood, aesthetic and tune.
I don't get people saying the final version is simpler, John is just fucking around with chords in this one, playing some ska stuff and Flea just following along. The final song ended bring way more complicated in terms of interplay between bass and guitar, and way more structured... But somehow I guess I prefer hearing this one. There's a bit of Wet Sand and Make You Feel Better, like that happy chordy vibe, the final Californication has this almost robotic vibe to it and a melancholic weird sound
This shows exactly why John is needed in RHCP. As great as Flea is on the bass he doesn't have the same ear for arrangements and neither did Josh Klinghoffer, and certainly not Anthony. I am absolutely certain that John was somehow involved in rearranging this song completely. Whenever John hasn't been in the band, Anthony has been allowed to get away with exactly this type of crap melodies. That's why most of the stuff with Josh is so dull. It's certainly not his playing. It's just that the band needs someone like John who can direct them musically. Josh has the skill to do that, but not the personality. And that's understandable, since he was always more of the "new guy".
they weren't satisfied with this version and by the end of recording process john was listening to carnage visitor by the cure which has chord progresion i-VI and from that he got the idea for the aragement that ended up being on the album.
@@theycallmejpj Yes, Rubin works really well with RHCP, but he doesn't have much to do with the arrangements of the songs. He's not that kind of producer, and he'd be the first to admit it. He has little knowledge about that. His approach is all about trying to help the band create a perfect creative environment and to highlight the sweet spots and that's perfect for RHCP when they have John, but Josh didn't like Rubin and other bands like Black Sabbath didn't really like him, because they wanted someone more involved with the music. Their mistake though. Should have done their homework before hiring him.
i disagree, the chilli peppers said in multiple ocations that all of them are involved in the creative process, even john talked about how flea created a lot of the songs in the by the way era like, for example, universally speaking despite of him being more interested in going in a different direction that john and anthony were going musicly at that time, plus, anthony said in multiple ocations that john wants him to find his own melody for the riffs that he brings to him, the only exception to that that im aware of is in the chorus of wet sand wich was idea of john, who also said in multiple ocations that he finds anthony very talented for melodies and lyrics, i just think youre making a lot of assumptions and underestimating the talent of the rest of the actual and previous band members like josh, who helped them to stay alive after john left the second time and helped to create im with you and the getaway, both amazing albums with great melodies and guitar parts like, dark neccesites, go robot, sick love, the longest wave, the adventures of rain dance maggie, look around, factory of faith, brendans death song, and the list goes on and on and on :p
AKA - a totally different song with the same lyrics. Sounds like they scrapped this tune and AK decided to use the vocals on a different song. What a result though!
My favorite RHCP line up: AK, Flea, Chad, John and the guy who shot Uncle Ben in the first Spider-Man
I swear to god when I was looking at this photo, I was like “I swear to god I fuckin know that guy from somewhere” and then I saw your comment, I felt so dumb lol
That's funny lol
😂😂😂😂
@@jackattack2421 But for real, isn't it the singer from Goldfinger
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 "Not my problem huh?"
sounds live their havana affair performance on slane castle
that´s right, is the flow for the ramones tribute we are a happy family
yeah it does, but sounds like johns own version of it
Agree!
💯💯💯
Sure does
I love Johns reggae approach with the guitar
Yea you're right! This is that era when John out from rehab with this hair style on1997. And not just look like but his sound also like on the Banyan - La Sirena record...same reggae rhythm style in my opinion. ruclips.net/video/qURiTiqFb9o/видео.html
What's u think?
In fact it's the first and only song I have heard from him with this approach, reggae.
@@shanecombs1993 yeah you're right, idk why I thought he was talking about the Peppers in general
@@shanecombs1993 same, he's such a great guitarist too imo
Sublime's Version
Its always exciting to hear the demo version of any hit song
You need hear Hello Demo by Oasis, really dude
@@knowledgejonah2565 niceeee. thanks dude
It’s funny to imagine how the conversation and planning went after this:
Flea and John: yeah, I think we’ve still gotta play a bit with the melodic lines and see what works best, and maybe switch up the beat a bit, what do you think Chad?
Chad: definitely, I got some ideas to change stuff… what about you Anthony? I feel like some lyrics could be polished up a bit.. you gonna change anything?
Anthony: nah, I’m good.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The lyrics were perfect from the beginning!
O instrumental foi basicamente feito para a letra, que já estava feita desde o início.
Gladly they worked on it.
vocal bothers me the most here... drums, bass and guitar are very great here still
The final song is simpler but so much better. Far more interesting melody, beautiful build, impactful chorus. Demo isn’t even in the same league.
Thanks for putting that together for us.
I think we have a genius in our hands!
0:58 - 1:01 sounds like Can't Stop
Really interesting. Kind of seems like Anthony writes the lyrics even before the music
Only for some songs, Under the bridge was a poem before the song was ever written
True in this case, but not usually
This is so intersesting! to hear And to think of how they perfected the final version from this demo is amazing! John and Flea created magic on this album. Going for less is more worked and it has worked ever since! Big love!
Bro it's just the lyrircs XD, prob anthony had the lyrics write before and they are just improving triyng to fit it
@@matiasdominguez2076 And I’m saying it’s interesting to see how they got from this to the final version. It’s easy to write music around lyrics with no melody ain’t it ‘bro’?! 😂✌🏼
I dig the demo and definitely love seeing songs transform. Willing to bet Rick Rubin had an exceptional influence on transforming this tune into what it became.
RICK RUBIN... RICK RUBIN!!!!!!
@@andersonfernandes7982 True! Rick Ruben has ‘moulded’ a lot of songs for bands and artists. He pushes them in other directions when bands /artists get stuck… (Writer’s block).👍🏼
This song has that type of cool-summery theme you hear on a lot of other Californication tracks, the finalized version has a much more dramatic sound to it.
These guys were gracious enough to come to my city and play the final version for me last weekend.
How very kind of them.
It's insane that they were going to give up on this song. I'm so glad they worked on it:) love this band
sublime vibes
O jonh recria melodias, vai modificando e ao fim temos um novo som, amo isso. É maravilhoso ficar tentando caprar qual foi a referência. Californication tentou ser Ramones, mas acabou se influenciando em the who
Disse tudo mn kkkk
Na real tem uma entrevista com o John que ele diz ter pego a melodia do californication de uma música do The Cure
This sound really interesting, but final version sounds much better
Yeah, the final version is just amazing.
これも悪くはないけど…よくここからあの印象的なアルペジオやメロディ、ギターソロまでに昇華させたな。凄過ぎだろ😮
Yeah bro
Anthony Keidis doesnt get much credit, he thought of the vocal melody for this song and it took the rest of the band a long time to understand what works with it.
I'm a producer, and i found the intro to be perfect for a beat. This isn't close to the glory of the famous one, but as part of a beat? It hits hard.
あり得ないほどかっこよすぎる。
このデモンストレーションもcalifornicationもマジで好き
It’s amazing how we not to lose a great song and lucky not to get it in that type, in which we listen here
The evolution of an idea is a beautiful thing
So the difference between chilis back then and chilis now is right here in this demo.
Last two albums are full of californication demos, pleasant enough sounding, nothing special.
Old chilis found the genius magic, the genius riff/baseline/whatever that turned the demos into all time classics.
Well put, actually. When I listened to Unlimited Love, I mostly enjoyed it, but absolutely nothing stood out to me. The whole album felt like I was in a bar and there was just a band jamming in the backround. It was good music, they are all great musicians, but I also haven't revisited any song from that album since.
@@theomnitorium7476 yeah. They just don’t have it anymore. It’s like de Niro after the mid 90s compared to before. But tbh I think they were great for 20 years, can’t say that about many bands
@@RoadTripperrr Because i think their motivation now is more financial, hence John rejoining. Before I think (at least John) they were doing it for the passion and love for creating art.
@@stevenm2699 probably true but I’ve loved them a long time and don’t want to believe it 😂
@@stevenm2699 I don't believe their motivation is financial at all. They are over 60 years old. They don't need to make any new music. But they do because they love what they do.
That's crazy that Havana Affair basically inspired Californication
this version is amazing
Californication (Not commercial edition)
Wow
I love this version better... blown away at how different it is and I love the reggae parts.
Interesting that the 2nd round of chords in the chorus is the same as black summer’s chorus.
Sounds like if Californication was on Unlimited Love or Dream Canteen
You mean without much songwriting and refinement? Because thats what you get on UL and DC.
Interessante ouvir isso. E como a versão final ficou melhor.
Sim mto louco o processo de criação e de como eles aperfeiçoaram a musica
@@travisloko2964 mas acho q essa versão ficou boa tbm...
It gives me Stadium Arcadium vibes...
Thanks God they didn't go ahead with this version
sounds like their cover of Havana Affair!!
this demo really shows importance of producer during recording seasion. if not for the rick rubin, we would never had the californication version we love today.
I think Frusciante is credited with coming up with the final arrangement, from Kiedis’ and Rubin’s accounts
@@ZackMahalati sure frusciante made final arrangment (btw he was inspired by the Cure riff in his final version) but it was rick rubin that pushed him to do it. othwerwise they might have just settled with this version and move on
It’s interesting mix of Scar Tissie and BSSM. Introduce that demo was added to album like end result. It would be another song, which had another mood, aesthetic and tune.
I don't get people saying the final version is simpler, John is just fucking around with chords in this one, playing some ska stuff and Flea just following along. The final song ended bring way more complicated in terms of interplay between bass and guitar, and way more structured... But somehow I guess I prefer hearing this one. There's a bit of Wet Sand and Make You Feel Better, like that happy chordy vibe, the final Californication has this almost robotic vibe to it and a melancholic weird sound
If they say they were clean and sober during this time they're lying lol
If Hendrix play chorus haha
2:52 i never listen to that part thats beautiful
Beautiful ❤️🌹👏👏👏👏💚💛💙🤍🙏💥🔥🌟💫✨⭐♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Sounds like a B-side from that era of course. Really interesting 🤔
Sounds like if Californication was a Stadium Arcadium song
Top version🤟🤟
Funny how some parts of Anthony's singing here reminded me of Dani California
John looks smokey hot there
Dani californication!
exactly!
sooooooo coool that reggie or ska guitar style dammn
California affair or Havarnication?
Calivanication
I like it a lot! Love it!
It has a full bside vibe! Pretty weird actually. Love the chillis 4ever
It seems a track from "I'm With You"/"The Getaway" or one of the latest albums like "Unlimited Love"
Sounds like a song that would be on stadium Arcadium
Play it at 1.25x makes it so much better
Beautiful ❤️🥰🌹💎👑👏👏👏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🌹AMO
I like the reggae feel of this version
everything sounds so beautiful but i wish they worked only on the vocals and timing because i would levitate while listening to this 😭
Californication but is in stadium arcadium
it is great that they decided to add more cowbell in the final version
John later use that "ooh" idea he does on 2:55 in his song "the first season"
This shows exactly why John is needed in RHCP. As great as Flea is on the bass he doesn't have the same ear for arrangements and neither did Josh Klinghoffer, and certainly not Anthony. I am absolutely certain that John was somehow involved in rearranging this song completely. Whenever John hasn't been in the band, Anthony has been allowed to get away with exactly this type of crap melodies. That's why most of the stuff with Josh is so dull. It's certainly not his playing. It's just that the band needs someone like John who can direct them musically. Josh has the skill to do that, but not the personality. And that's understandable, since he was always more of the "new guy".
they weren't satisfied with this version and by the end of recording process john was listening to carnage visitor by the cure which has chord progresion i-VI and from that he got the idea for the aragement that ended up being on the album.
Plus the 5th pepper - Rick Rubin
@@theycallmejpj Yes, Rubin works really well with RHCP, but he doesn't have much to do with the arrangements of the songs. He's not that kind of producer, and he'd be the first to admit it. He has little knowledge about that. His approach is all about trying to help the band create a perfect creative environment and to highlight the sweet spots and that's perfect for RHCP when they have John, but Josh didn't like Rubin and other bands like Black Sabbath didn't really like him, because they wanted someone more involved with the music. Their mistake though. Should have done their homework before hiring him.
i disagree, the chilli peppers said in multiple ocations that all of them are involved in the creative process, even john talked about how flea created a lot of the songs in the by the way era like, for example, universally speaking despite of him being more interested in going in a different direction that john and anthony were going musicly at that time, plus, anthony said in multiple ocations that john wants him to find his own melody for the riffs that he brings to him, the only exception to that that im aware of is in the chorus of wet sand wich was idea of john, who also said in multiple ocations that he finds anthony very talented for melodies and lyrics, i just think youre making a lot of assumptions and underestimating the talent of the rest of the actual and previous band members like josh, who helped them to stay alive after john left the second time and helped to create im with you and the getaway, both amazing albums with great melodies and guitar parts like, dark neccesites, go robot, sick love, the longest wave, the adventures of rain dance maggie, look around, factory of faith, brendans death song, and the list goes on and on and on :p
This comment should be on a wikipedia article
Demo version is more kind of reggae tune genre.. but the final version is such masterpiece..
I heard Dani California at this song
so the reference moved from havana affair to carnage visors
I like it
on the little thumb john looks robert smith
OBRIGADO JOHN!!!
It is Havana Affair with a touch of Freaky Styley
play this at 1.1x speed and its almost the same speed as the album version and sounds really weird
Playing at 1.25x Instant improvement!
Sings the melody of Dani California
Es una canción totalmente diferente
Red hot chili peppers and sublime?
nice
Ainda bem que alguém chegou dizendo "Ok pessoal, vamos fazer de outro jeito!"
Al principio suena como el cover de Havanna Affair :D
Black Summer 1998 )))))
Is that the guy from Goldfinger in the picture with them?
"Space may be the final frontier but it's made in a Hollywood basement"
I've found the next song I'm learning on guitar
Teatro sessions
Sounds better than the version that came up on californication album.
原曲と全然ちゃうやん
GREAT!!!!
Да, это супер версия!!!!
source of this? so cool
My Baby
John♥️
sounds a lot like havana affair
Soul to squeeze meets havana affair
AKA - a totally different song with the same lyrics. Sounds like they scrapped this tune and AK decided to use the vocals on a different song. What a result though!
It sounds like singing Californication over the random guitar melody played by your drunk boomer neighbor with the gun.
Its the other guy beetlejuce ? He looks well cocked up lol
Josh Klinghoffer is really studius guy, goodbye angels.
David lynch?
🌻🤟 🕯 ❤
Can anyone tell me who that is on the lower left?
I wanna say Mike Mcreedy
i might like this more than the original wow.
A versão final continua melhor
Where does this come from?
28歳かぁ、このとき。
ジョン若っかw
the guitar in this song is very similar to havana affair
Havana Californication Affair
its much better 1.25x
funny how they used this for havana affair