Also they need to do so many things, being fast with changing wheels wont make a difference when the drivers need to be swapped, fuel needs to be filled etc etc
They can't work on the car while they are refueling which takes long as hell. I didn't see anyone checking if the ball joints were worn. They used to take fuel in F1 and the stop was much longer. And the single lap much faster.
@@JakubBielawny it does. And it does for a good reason and that reason being that teams tried to optimize refueling times too much, which led to explosions. They thus introduced a mandatory pit stop time in WEC and banned refueling from F1 entirely.
@@under-your-bed_ In a league LM24H we had at least 3min, also to accomodate driver swaps through the server. Praga Cup had like 20sec I thought as well.
The two sports are identical in the sense that their cars are different per team. The main difference is F1 is built for performance and Endurance racing is for durability.
The problem is because of the inaccessibility of WEC. It has no mainstream TV coverage, and the YT highlights are usualy weeks late from the event, and shockingly bad.
After 2023 it's like on fire tho Especially knowing names like Valentino Rossi joins 2024, who's arguably comparable to John Surtees in terms of performance in both 2 and 4 wheels
@@TheGravyMonsterin Europe all races are streamed fully and live at Eurosport which is a very acessible channel (no premium or pay per view) much more acessable than F1 that in most countries is on premium channels
I think they work in shifts, generally. Not sure tbh. Also, a little correction: le mans MOST LIKELY included, cuz tbh I'm sure the WEC has this kind of rule, but I'm not 100% sure with le mans. @@zinddy
@@NerAEus96there's no minimum stop time in Lemans or WEC and only 4 mechanics can work at the car at same time and only 2 guns to change the wheels, by regulations.
Hahaha just noticed it, damn your right! That's funny as hell, imagining those pit folks listening to "Bad" in their helmets be like "I'm gonna moonwalk the shit out of this pit, heeeeheeee!" 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
F1: change tyres 3 times at max in 2 hours Le Mans: the same mechanics team has to change tyres and refuel minimum 15-20 times in 24 hours Now it's clear why they are fast or slow
@@not_even_me5035 they do, to prevent cars from blowing up due to too much optimization when refueling. They also banned refueling in F1 for exactly the same reason.
@@gruphius They don't use a time limit for that. They made the fuel hoses a spec part that's provided by the fia, and not by teams. A pit stop can take as little time as possible, the only restriction is that the fuel can only flow so fast into the car.
F1 race: about 2 hours, fuel tank is smaller, and tyres are soft 24h Le Mans: 24 hours, fuel tank is bigger, tyres are more reliable => pit stops are less frequent but longer.
In case u are wondering about WEC/LM pitstop rules: Only 4 pit crews can works simultaneously, u cannot refuel and change tires at the same time, u can only change two tires simultaneously.
It's because f1 is a sprint layout where it's about positions and who will be ahead of everyone on the lap and le mans is an endurance layout where the team with the most laps win the race and not the fastest to do the lap wins
@@gruphius except there is no mandatory pit stop time. This is for GT and smaller endurance series to help the smaller and newer teams get accustomed to pit stops
@@mintgoldheart6126 no, you're wrong there. There is a mandatory pit stop time and while I wasn't able to find a rule about that in the official FIA rules I was able to find an article talking about it online. And I can even tell you why exactly there's a mandatory pit time: Because cars did tend to blow up across multiple racing series due to the teams trying too much to be as efficient as possible with refueling. For the same reason refueling was banned in F1.
@@gruphius tell me where it says in this there is a mandatory time? www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.fia.com/sites/default/files/wec_2023_d0022_all_pit_stop_position_08022023.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwig7vjC792DAxVwXaQEHec1DWcQFnoECA0QBg&usg=AOvVaw1pw1Nggw_XF9jCczudW_ZP
That's a pointless clarification. While it is true that in WEC, you win by completing the most laps - doing so requires you to be the fastest car on the race. Also, in F1, if you are missing laps when the winner crosses the finish line, you are not allowed to complete any more laps than your current one. In practice this means that both definitions are practically the same (only difference being when you decide the first place has won). The real difference comes from... Everywhere else.
Alot of people don't understand that in endurance races there's something called a "minimum mandatory pit time" which basically states that once a car comes in to pit, no matter what they're coming in to pit for whether it be of just fuel and or tire or a full driver change. The car has to stay in the pitbox for a minimum amount of time before it's allowed to go back out again. The car is on a timer counting down, and the team will be penalized if they leave before that time reaches zero.
@@IgnitionPin this hypothetical, the FIA would probably require that each driver do half of the laps in the race or like at least 40%, so teams are forced to change drivers
WEC has a mandatory minimum pit stop time, so they don't have to rush. they only need to do it relatively quickly so they have time to spare if something goes wrong, but its not a race to see who can finish their pitstop the fastest. in fact, its safer if they take their time since they are less likely to make a mistake and run over the minimum required pit stop time this is unlike F1 where, in addition to having nothing to check, no driver swap, no refueling, they only have to change the tires, and there is no minimum time so they have to get it done as fast as possible.
F1’s pitstops nowadays will forever be some of the most impressive things in motor racing. I fully understand that there are few things directly comparable to this and for example LeMans, Indy and even F2 but the fact that you can change 4 tyres, adjust a front wing, clean some bodywork and all the other small detailes in under 2 seconds is absolutely bonkers.
Also that the rules in wec in order to give same chances of win between a big team and a small one stipulate that only 2 crewmate can work on the car at the same time ...
This for sure its the most impressive 3D animation that I've seen, no idea how many hours to render it, im sure that was alot hahaha! Really impressive 👏🏻
Well, there are like 18 crewmembers on F1 and 4 for LM. Not just that but it looked like F1 didnt refuel. Also the LM needs much more fuel, on top of switching the driver. This is apples to oranges.
Competitive pit stops in wec would be really cool to see, the reason they take so long is because there's a required amount of time you have to stay in the pit stall so nobody gains an advantage while in the pits like f1 and NASCAR
Estou acompanhando e aprendendo sobre o WEC, nesses últimos anos, e tem sido uma experiência incrível. Eu era conhecido por ser um fã de Fórmula 1, e agora um fã de automobilismo. Até Indycar e NASCAR estou curtindo agora.
The Le Mans pit stop here is actually slower than you'd normally see. Since the car can't leave until all four mechanics are back across the line, they usually time it so that that inside tires are the last ones changed, meaning that the driver doesn't have to wait long to be released.
Also 24 hours of Lemans has 3 to 4 cars with 3 or 4 pilots each for the duration, plus the tank must be filled for more duration of the race. That means, that tank has to at least had 5 hours of duration through the course, and on top the driver must had fuel efficiency. On top tire efficiency must be something since they determinate how much pit stop they had to do for change them. On other hand F1 cars has a small tank of fuel + tires get worn out even faster than a lemans car.
What don't know is that LeMans, or all endurance racing for that matter, has a minimum stop length. And as you can see, during refuelling only tasks like Driver change and cleaning windows/lights can be done, nothing else, only then you can change the tyres or do some small repairs, meaning, while refuelling no work can be done on the car. Speaking of brakes, during a 24hr race they use up several sets of brakes, not pads or rotors, entire assemblies. during most 24Hr races they also use up kilometres worth of duct tape, the manta team actually used to have Duct tape in the colours of the car. Meaning, the difference is regulations and then race type.
F1 driver: hurrry up! I'm late to school. It's my exam day. Le Mans driver: yeah, I'm going to toilet. Call me if you finish. I'm waiting in kitchen enjoy my life.
The difference is in one race, the car is made to be destroyed eventually. In lemans, it gets destroyed over the course of the entire race, since it isn't just pushing speed limits.
F1: only 40 more minutes to go, dont have to check everything
Le Mans: this car must last atleast 10 more hours, make sure everything runs smoothly
F1 is when I drive now and Le Mans is when I first started driving 😂
Also they need to do so many things, being fast with changing wheels wont make a difference when the drivers need to be swapped, fuel needs to be filled etc etc
Yrepp
They can't work on the car while they are refueling which takes long as hell.
I didn't see anyone checking if the ball joints were worn.
They used to take fuel in F1 and the stop was much longer.
And the single lap much faster.
@@Ozem_Israel until the fire max's father was in while refueling
Le Mans pitstop be like: two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda
Gta reference
It's criminal to not read this without hearing his voice
This Made my day😂
Meanwhile F1 pit stops: just the soda please
Good one bro
F1 races= almost 2 hours LeMans=24 hours
WEC also has a mandatory pit time
F1 race is 1.5 hour
Some races
the duration limit for F1 races is 2 hours, with up to one extra hour if the race is red flagged
Ok I'll change it apologize about I'm wrong
F1: No window to clean, no refueling, no driver switching, no limit on how many tires can be replaced at the same time.
No mandatory pit time
@@gruphius good God someone remembered the minimum pit time rule
@@rns_nickitoloko_psn5775 maximum
Minimum not exist
@@JakubBielawny it does. And it does for a good reason and that reason being that teams tried to optimize refueling times too much, which led to explosions. They thus introduced a mandatory pit stop time in WEC and banned refueling from F1 entirely.
The pitstops have huge differences, but also huge difference between stints and race distance, race category and world championship.
No vabbè, non l’avrei mai detto
F1: 🗣this one needs to be under 2 seconds!
Le Mans: 🗣 chill, relax, we have a lot of time…
Literally a whole day
Is there a minimum pitstop time in WEC? If so, what is that?
I'd be highly surprised if there wasn't.
@@Litl_Skitl I don't think there is. I have seen some manufactures taking at least 2-3 minutes. But l'm mot sure if there is a minimum
@@Litl_Skitl Best Pitstop time in Wec last year was 10.01 seconds by Peugeot (only tyre change)
@@under-your-bed_ In a league LM24H we had at least 3min, also to accomodate driver swaps through the server. Praga Cup had like 20sec I thought as well.
went to my first F1 race this year at COTA and going to my first WEC race in 2024 at COTA. Pumped to see the difference
Bro just called me poor in motorsportlanguage😢
How much is a decent ticket to cota?
@@hypershrimp_I believe the three day weekend is +/-$1500. Sunday is a couple of hundred.
I also went to COTA F1 this year as my first race. What turn were you at?
@@blacklightning98for really good grandstand seats yea but on average around 800
Wec is so underrated
The two sports are identical in the sense that their cars are different per team. The main difference is F1 is built for performance and Endurance racing is for durability.
The problem is because of the inaccessibility of WEC. It has no mainstream TV coverage, and the YT highlights are usualy weeks late from the event, and shockingly bad.
@@TheGravyMonsteryeah but you pay a small price for the whole season or just for LeMans for like £5 which isn’t a lot
After 2023 it's like on fire tho
Especially knowing names like Valentino Rossi joins 2024, who's arguably comparable to John Surtees in terms of performance in both 2 and 4 wheels
@@TheGravyMonsterin Europe all races are streamed fully and live at Eurosport which is a very acessible channel (no premium or pay per view) much more acessable than F1 that in most countries is on premium channels
For context: endurance races in general (le mans included) have a MANDATORY pit stop time and pilots cannot re-enter the racetrack before that time.
Isnt there also limited mechanics working on the car?
I think they work in shifts, generally. Not sure tbh. Also, a little correction: le mans MOST LIKELY included, cuz tbh I'm sure the WEC has this kind of rule, but I'm not 100% sure with le mans. @@zinddy
@@NerAEus96there's no minimum stop time in Lemans or WEC and only 4 mechanics can work at the car at same time and only 2 guns to change the wheels, by regulations.
@@ruifeupthere is a mandatory pit time
@@gruphius No there is not. Checked again the WEC regulations, on their website (131 pages) and there is no mandatory pit stop time.
This is unrealistic. F1 crew didnt fuck it up
You meant Ferrari crew
@@GeorgeVenturi spot on !
@@GeorgeVenturi well, now it's Stake Kick Sauber F1
That is Redbull crew just change outfit
Bottom pit crew moving around like Michael Jackson haha
Don't you mean "heehee"
@@feryuae Sorry, it should've been shamone 😂
@@LuminalSpoonno u mean "ooowwww"
Hahaha just noticed it, damn your right! That's funny as hell, imagining those pit folks listening to "Bad" in their helmets be like "I'm gonna moonwalk the shit out of this pit, heeeeheeee!" 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
F1 : focus on fastest speed
WEC : focus on team coordination to complete longest distance
I need more WEC content
F1: change tyres 3 times at max in 2 hours
Le Mans: the same mechanics team has to change tyres and refuel minimum 15-20 times in 24 hours
Now it's clear why they are fast or slow
WEC has a mandatory pit time
Only 20?😅. Didn't look that much. That doesn't sound that high intensive
@@gruphius they do not...
@@not_even_me5035 they do, to prevent cars from blowing up due to too much optimization when refueling. They also banned refueling in F1 for exactly the same reason.
@@gruphius They don't use a time limit for that. They made the fuel hoses a spec part that's provided by the fia, and not by teams. A pit stop can take as little time as possible, the only restriction is that the fuel can only flow so fast into the car.
WRC crew: change the whole rear axle in less than 30 mins
Diffrence between a 2 hour race and a 24hour race 😊
F1 race: about 2 hours, fuel tank is smaller, and tyres are soft
24h Le Mans: 24 hours, fuel tank is bigger, tyres are more reliable => pit stops are less frequent but longer.
Yeah but I’m guessing F1 fuel tank is larger since it lasts the whole race and sportscars need to refuel roughly every hour.
In case u are wondering about WEC/LM pitstop rules: Only 4 pit crews can works simultaneously, u cannot refuel and change tires at the same time, u can only change two tires simultaneously.
This explains a lot, thank you!
It's almost as if endurance racing needs a lot more work to make sure the drivers and car remain at peak performance for longer periods of time
Except in reality, Ferrari's F1 pit stop would last longer than the Le Mans pit stop. 😂
We re not in 2022
Same with Mercedes, remember Bottas?
Nah Mercedes Monaco one more like 😂
More like Haas
@@Formulaaaaaaaa5 Yeah, we're past the 2023 season and Ferrari strategists still managed to fuck things up.
It's because f1 is a sprint layout where it's about positions and who will be ahead of everyone on the lap and le mans is an endurance layout where the team with the most laps win the race and not the fastest to do the lap wins
The driver doing the most laps is the driver who drives said laps the fastest. No, the reason is because WEC has a mandatory pit time.
@@gruphius except there is no mandatory pit stop time. This is for GT and smaller endurance series to help the smaller and newer teams get accustomed to pit stops
@@mintgoldheart6126 no, you're wrong there. There is a mandatory pit stop time and while I wasn't able to find a rule about that in the official FIA rules I was able to find an article talking about it online. And I can even tell you why exactly there's a mandatory pit time: Because cars did tend to blow up across multiple racing series due to the teams trying too much to be as efficient as possible with refueling. For the same reason refueling was banned in F1.
@@gruphius tell me where it says in this there is a mandatory time?
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.fia.com/sites/default/files/wec_2023_d0022_all_pit_stop_position_08022023.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwig7vjC792DAxVwXaQEHec1DWcQFnoECA0QBg&usg=AOvVaw1pw1Nggw_XF9jCczudW_ZP
That's a pointless clarification. While it is true that in WEC, you win by completing the most laps - doing so requires you to be the fastest car on the race. Also, in F1, if you are missing laps when the winner crosses the finish line, you are not allowed to complete any more laps than your current one.
In practice this means that both definitions are practically the same (only difference being when you decide the first place has won). The real difference comes from... Everywhere else.
F1: How my boss wants me to work
Le Mans: How I actually work
I love the guy climbing on the car
I love the animation too. 😅
Alot of people don't understand that in endurance races there's something called a "minimum mandatory pit time" which basically states that once a car comes in to pit, no matter what they're coming in to pit for whether it be of just fuel and or tire or a full driver change. The car has to stay in the pitbox for a minimum amount of time before it's allowed to go back out again. The car is on a timer counting down, and the team will be penalized if they leave before that time reaches zero.
WEC and IMSA actually don't have minimum pit stop times, teams can do the stops as fast as possible.
They also refuel first and you can't change tyres while refuelling so it's just as competitive in the pits as F1 is
Imagine how intense f1 would be if they had 2 drivers, 1 car combo. If f1 actually was a team sport for the drivers
Probably faster to not change drivers
This comment was dumb
@@IgnitionPin this hypothetical, the FIA would probably require that each driver do half of the laps in the race or like at least 40%, so teams are forced to change drivers
Why when F1 is just a 2-hour race?
Reading the 3 out of the 4 comments on this thread really causes me to lose hope of the vast majority of the population to think progressively
Max could have the length of a Le mans pit stop and still win by 30 seconds
Underrated comment
..and mercedes/hamilton would still find a way to complain
@@nerdius8204 true, and then get disqualified for the rule they pushed for
Nope
WEC has a mandatory minimum pit stop time, so they don't have to rush. they only need to do it relatively quickly so they have time to spare if something goes wrong, but its not a race to see who can finish their pitstop the fastest.
in fact, its safer if they take their time since they are less likely to make a mistake and run over the minimum required pit stop time
this is unlike F1 where, in addition to having nothing to check, no driver swap, no refueling, they only have to change the tires, and there is no minimum time so they have to get it done as fast as possible.
Why does nobody sees the fact that F1 pitstop crew do not move? That's what I call: pure talent 🤝
tire change vs full car maintenance
But in Le Mans they do pit stop 4 times in 24h, but in f1 they do it like every 30min
At Le Mans they have to refuel like once an hour
4 pit stops in 24h barely covers the driver changes. Let alone the fucking tires!
F1’s pitstops nowadays will forever be some of the most impressive things in motor racing. I fully understand that there are few things directly comparable to this and for example LeMans, Indy and even F2 but the fact that you can change 4 tyres, adjust a front wing, clean some bodywork and all the other small detailes in under 2 seconds is absolutely bonkers.
Takin their sweet precious time
F1: We need to do it in less than 1.8 sec 😫
LeMans: Take our time, we still need to go for the tires 🗿
Mate this video was tense asf
That stop felt like an eternity.
No, not the tires, just the gasoline...
- Lightning Mcqueen 2006
F1 don’t refueling , Just that
And crew number
@@IgnitionP and driver change which also means a seat change, and cleaning the windscreen, and potential body repairs
Also that the rules in wec in order to give same chances of win between a big team and a small one stipulate that only 2 crewmate can work on the car at the same time ...
2019 Porsche #92: change the entire exhaust
@@dhupee Audi changed the whole rear of a car once.
Wec is the hardest auto sport
Thats why the rejects go there 😂
This for sure its the most impressive 3D animation that I've seen, no idea how many hours to render it, im sure that was alot hahaha! Really impressive 👏🏻
You forgot the mention that one of the races takes 1,5 hours and the other takes 24 hours
Well, there are like 18 crewmembers on F1 and 4 for LM. Not just that but it looked like F1 didnt refuel. Also the LM needs much more fuel, on top of switching the driver.
This is apples to oranges.
Red bull could have done like 10 stops in dat time
*That LeMans pitstop took 5 business days*
Competitive pit stops in wec would be really cool to see, the reason they take so long is because there's a required amount of time you have to stay in the pit stall so nobody gains an advantage while in the pits like f1 and NASCAR
Wec pit stop Is more satisfing
F1 watchers be like: its been 69 years
Differences between a 2-4hour race and a 24 hour race
Blud literally did a McDonald's order in the middle of a pitstop💀
Pit stop❌
Pit stopped forever ✅
Estou acompanhando e aprendendo sobre o WEC, nesses últimos anos, e tem sido uma experiência incrível. Eu era conhecido por ser um fã de Fórmula 1, e agora um fã de automobilismo. Até Indycar e NASCAR estou curtindo agora.
The key difference is that the le mans crew appears out of thin air while the f1's crew is already standing there
But to be fair there's no reason to be in a hurry at a 24h race
F1:3 seconds
Lemans: 1 minute
could have shown above how many pitstops are being done in f1. but can be imagined. so great
Probably in Le Mans, people go out to buy groceries. 😂
F1 is meant for speed but Le Mans is an endurance race
The Le Mans pit stop here is actually slower than you'd normally see. Since the car can't leave until all four mechanics are back across the line, they usually time it so that that inside tires are the last ones changed, meaning that the driver doesn't have to wait long to be released.
You do have to admire the excellent posture of the LeMan’s crew.
"Hol' on, gotta pitstop the driver"
Le mans: chill out. More hours to go.
F1 Pitstop Time:- 1.80s
Le Mans PitStop Time :- Much Slower
Last guy on the left did a moonwalk😭
It's like comparing sprints vs marathon
I actually love how slow LM pit stops are
2 hours vs 24 hours
i like how the le mans car jacked itself up without a jack or a airjack compressor
Le man: Let’s put in our vacation and return to work
Also 24 hours of Lemans has 3 to 4 cars with 3 or 4 pilots each for the duration, plus the tank must be filled for more duration of the race. That means, that tank has to at least had 5 hours of duration through the course, and on top the driver must had fuel efficiency. On top tire efficiency must be something since they determinate how much pit stop they had to do for change them.
On other hand F1 cars has a small tank of fuel + tires get worn out even faster than a lemans car.
Me waiting for the F1 to finish a lap and comeback:
'cmon'
'cmon'
'cmon'
'bruh'
What don't know is that LeMans, or all endurance racing for that matter, has a minimum stop length.
And as you can see, during refuelling only tasks like Driver change and cleaning windows/lights can be done, nothing else, only then you can change the tyres or do some small repairs, meaning, while refuelling no work can be done on the car.
Speaking of brakes, during a 24hr race they use up several sets of brakes, not pads or rotors, entire assemblies.
during most 24Hr races they also use up kilometres worth of duct tape, the manta team actually used to have Duct tape in the colours of the car.
Meaning, the difference is regulations and then race type.
Bro violated the hood💀
I really like Wec pit stops, F1 is nice and quick but I like the way the guy jumps on the wind shield to clean it
Biggest difference other than the time, is that even the driver gets changed
Le Mans: Relax, we have all day
Remember.....changing to your secondary car is faster than reloading
Bro that aint a pit stop thats a whole skincare routine
F1 driver: hurrry up! I'm late to school. It's my exam day.
Le Mans driver: yeah, I'm going to toilet. Call me if you finish. I'm waiting in kitchen enjoy my life.
F1 - Time I need to get ready
Le Mans - Time she needs to get ready
I don't think Ferrari Pitstops have ever been that fast
F1: release the tire and done
Le mans: ok guy we have a lot of time so don't worry
They race more distance in one race than the whole f1 season
I wanna be the guy who climbs on the hood and just kneels there haha
I think he's cleaning the windshield, can you imagine racing with one car for 24 hours at that speed?
Pit stops looking power rangers from different universes
The difference is in one race, the car is made to be destroyed eventually.
In lemans, it gets destroyed over the course of the entire race, since it isn't just pushing speed limits.
Still faster then our dealerships
As a kid who knew fuck all about cars, but seeing the pit crew knock shit out like sonic hit spikes going to fast always amazed me.
The fact that there are more mechanics in F1 than in Lemans
At lemans they even change the whole brakes out if needed. goes very fast though.
The crew from the top were so nice to wait for the le mans guys
F1: máxima performance
WEC: máxima duração
To put in simple words. One place Banana is getting peeled and other place pomegranate getting peeled. 😂😂
Bro gave a whole lap dances too😮
climbing up the hood while cleaning the windshield prolly gonna be the zestiest thing i could possibly imagine
an endurance race vs a sprint
Lemans is 24 hours where each team cycles through 3 drivers.
F1: "GO GO GO HURRY UP"
Le mans: " how's your day bro"
POV: Valtteri Bottas at Bahrain:
The difference is that endurance races are actually good
bro istg i have never seen ferarri techs this fast
le mans pitstop: has an extra guy to give the car pats and positive affirmation ❤
(i know its the windscreen tab peeler and cleaner)