Korean Q&A - If you can’t say 당신, how do you say YOU in Korean?
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- We posted a lesson before on our website where we explained that you can’t use the word 당신 because it can sound inappropriate in most situations. So you might already know that you can use the other person’s name, but what if you want to say “YOU” but still don’t know their name? Find out how to express this in natural Korean in this video lesson with Hyunwoo.
Level 4 Lesson 5 - 당신 and its proper usage
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How to say you in Korean :
Don't.
The beauty of highly contextual languages, if you're not sure about something of how to say it, just skirt around it and hope the other person gets your meaning 😂 works too if you're trying not to answer a specific question.
We?
@@paulcollante1223 nah doesn't really work in formal situations
Korean language is really hard to learn 😢
lmao
One time last year, I was at a fan meeting for my favourite Kpop idol. At the fan-meeting I met one of my idol's friends which I got talking to (in Korean) and we chattered throughout the event. However, throughout the whole time, she refused to tell me her name (she maintained that she was a fan, although the veil was very thin since she was clearly joking). So through the whole time, I simply left the subject out in conversation, but there was one particular thing I wanted to say in which I felt like I had to say "you", so I said 당신 (and I notice now I also did the hand gesture thing lol). I remember the lovely TTMIK lesson from Level 4 to not to use 당신, but also that it could be used if you *had* to use it in place of something, and since she was the one that refused to let me know her name, I didn't feel bad about using it ㅋㅋ. She was fine with it, because she knew I was a foreigner. I left the event that day not finding out her name, but I later discovered that she was a former member of the same Kpop group from years before, and that she didn't tell me her name because she didn't want to take the lime light off from her friend, which was kind of her :) Ah, good times.
Stellar Twinkles whattt,that's awesome, which group is it?
zim zim The group is called Stellar, but it was technically an individual fan-meeting for Gayoung Kim (former leader of Stellar) which happened after a public broadcast of her radio show that she did with fans called ("Radio in Gayoung"). She does this broadcast fairly regularly on V-live 😊 If you search for 김가영, you can watch her videos on V-live too (some with English subs by yours truly ☺).
Aww! You must be sad that Stellar broke up now. :(
Thanks Nedeli ☺ Actually, you'd think so, but I'm not so much. I was sad when my two favourite members (Gayoung and Yoori) "graduated" from the group late last year, but I'm rather overjoyed that the group is finally disbanded, particularly because the members themselves were very vocal themselves about the issues with their company. Some Kpop fans think that the worst thing that can happen to a group is for them to disband - it's not. A worse thing that can happen is being trapped in a 7 year contract (colloqually referred to in the industry as a "slave contract") and continuously mistreated and forced to do things that are against your values/morals, by a company that doesn't have any respect for you or your opinions. Throughout the years, the girls cried a lot, more than anyone ever should have to. So with this disband, Twinkles (Stellar's fans) are actually overjoyed. Read any of the comments on any of the articles, and you'll realise that fans that really followed Stellar, share the same sentiments too 😊 In any case, the members love each other very much and want to regroup sometime in the future to perform together on stage again, so I (and I'm sure other fans) are waiting around for that day to occur as well 😊
Stellar Twinkles I actually just discovered stellar and idk where they’ve been all my life. And then I found out they broke up and was kinda sad about it. But they were great👌🏽 and that was a nice experience!!!
Really liked that white board . Feels like sitting in a real class room in somewhere in Korea..Can you use it every grammer lesson videos? Thank you for detailed explanation
and is more easy to edit the video kk
Yasssss !! That's what I say to myself! It's feel like i am in real class in korea !! I can be more serious when I watching this!!
Agreed
yes!
4:09 When you realize you are asking "strange things" to a student and avoid translating them hahahahaha. That part made me laugh so hard.
Is there any other language where you have to spend this much time learning how to avoid saying you lol
steven gao As far as I know, no language except for Korean. Even Japanese is free from such problem.
Idk......it's basically like English. Those words have different meanings behind them that wouldn't apply to every situation.
If I was talking to just one person, I wouldn't say you all/y'all. Nor would I yell "hey you" or "hey kid" at just some random person or say it in a casual conversation. The transliteration to "you" is very loose here as not all of those words literally translate to you.
Besides every language is different and can be difficult to learn. And English is no exception. Especially when we use the same word to mean different things or same sounding word to mean different things (they're/there/their, red/read, tear/tear, etc).
steven gao In Spanish there are 3 ways to say “you” depending on the country or Age. In my country we use all three depending in both 😂
😂😂😂😂
There's Vietnamese, the word "you" translates to be "bạn", but the literal meaning of it is friend, so the word "bạn" is only used in formal occasions: 1)formal writings/speeches like books or presentation/videos, or 2)when you want to formally address someone. Same for the word "I or me", it means "tôi" but also only used in formal occasions.
Close friends sometimes talk to each other using "mày" to mean you and "tao" to mean I or me, but "mày-tao" would be consider very rude if used in other situations.
In general, you address the person using their names (if the person is younger than you) or their honorific/social titles, similar to Korean. If someone appears to be in the same generation as you, you use "anh" (older brother), "chị" (older sister), or "em" (younger brother/sister), and refer to yourself as "em" if you're younger, "anh/chị" (depend on your gender) if you're older. If they appear to be one generation older than you, use "cô/dì" (aunty), or "chú/bác" (uncle), and refer to yourself as "con/cháu". If they appear two generations older than you, then address them as "ông" (grandpa) or "bà" (grandma), and refer to yourself as "con/cháu". You address a teacher as "cô" (female teacher) or "thầy" (male teacher), and refer to yourself as "em" if you are a student, or the formal word "tôi" if you are not a student. There's more but those are some common ways to address someone in a conversation.
In japanese tanoshii means fun! Which rhymes with your name Heono shi!! I guess you were just born with a fun personality!
hyunwoo*
bakabakashii also rhymes.
@Lance Alcantara no they're not
@Lance Alcantara i know that it's hyeonwoo but korean people write it as hyunwoo!
But the pronunciation of "heono" is different (허노)
@Lance Alcantara this is a 3 year old comment
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This was an immensely helpful lesson. I love the whiteboard and example dialogues!
This was great. I found it helps to think that the reflexive way we use "you" all the time in English is just part of the construction, and sometimes you don't even mean a literal second person, it's almost a placeholder subject (like the "you" in the previous sentence). Sentences like "What school do you attend?" need "you" because verbs like "attend" need a subject to be grammatical. But I can say "어느 학교에 다니세요?" and there's just no need for it grammatically.
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Haha I just realised that I know 여러분 😂 I couldn’t remember from where at first but HEEY Wasn’t it on Bangtan’s Twitter all the time? 우리 아미 여러분. 💓
Omg the translators could not translate this with any sense. 😆THANK YOU
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The first time the word 당신 really caught my attention was in the kdrama entitled "Nine:Times Travel" wherein the heroine called the hero (who was older her) 당신 and the hero got mad at her for doing so. It really made me wonder why he got made when all she said was "you". I forgot about it but when i saw this video I was reminded of it. Now I know why. Thank you for this.
Thank you for your detailed explanation. I was confuse using this word before.
I love the white board! ^^
And I had the same doubt a few days ago~ so great you made a video about it
Thank you so much for this video! I don't know how many times I asked about when to use 당신!
Great video. You guys are awesome!
someone much older than you - 선생님은요? (this 선생님 mean sir or Mr. not a teacher)
someone age around you - 그쪽은요?
someone really younger than you - 너는?
보통 잘모르는 사람 만나면 이렇게 세가지만 써요.
우와~ 스크린보드가 너무 좋아요! 앞으로도 계속 사용하실 거죠~ 좋은 레슨 정말 감사합니다 선생님 ^^
I really love the way you teaching ♥ it's really understandable
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very useful, love TTMIK 😚
thank you so much! you're such a great teacher
🤓 Ok, understood and annotated. Thanks a lot!!!
Great practical advice! Thanks!
가르쳐서 고맙습니다!! 😄😄 재미있었어요!
Clear explanation!
Thank you ♥️ so much TTMIK
I like the whiteboard! These videos are always informative, too.
Such a great teacher!
this was very helpful. Thank You for making this clear :)
Great teaching! Keep it up!
This was really helpful. Thanks!
This was very helpful! Thank you!
woahhhh looking like a real uni teacher hahahaha. so helpful, thanks!!!!
thank you 선생님!
very helpful, thank you so much!!!
You guys are the best,your videos help me a lot
This was very helpful...thank you🙏🙏
Thank you. 감사합니다.
Great video!! Thank you so much!
super helpful! thank you!
Ohhhh. Now I get it. I knew about 너(희) but I was a bit confused about 당신 and the others. Thanks☺️❤️
very informative thank you so much
I heard that 너 can also be rude in certain situations.
From a European perspective it’s very interesting with formalities and such in other languages, especially Asian languages. Where I’m from we address the person with “you” regardless of social status and/or age (ex. to a stranger in public). Though, it makes learning other languages, even Spanish with its six or so abbreviations, harder. But it’s always fun with a bit of a challenge!
Yep, one of the cultural things that you must keep in mind as soon as you start to lean this language, because using in a wrong way these words or calling somebody older by their name can sound very impolite and some people really get angry about this (although, most of them are comprehensive if you're a foreigner, of course).One thing I've not learnt enough is the use of 님, if it is mostly used in written language or the main uses of them.
강의처럼 가르쳐주니까 집중이 더 잘 되는 것 같네요. 감사합니다! :)
아 그리고 정말 오래 궁굼해왔던 건데 이 영상 올린거 보니까 너무 좋네요. 근데 '그쪽은요?' 이 질문도 많이 들었는데 이것도 맞나요? 아니면 부자연스러운건가요? 감사합니다!!
그쪽은요? sounds like more softer(?) for native speaker
엄청 감사합니다 선생님.
Would people be offended if you used the wrong title, such as calling someone '학생' if they weren't one. Also, at roughly what age would you call someone '아저씨/아줌마'? And thank you for explaining things so well (as you always do), looking forward to your next video!
Thank you so much""
I'm sorry that we cant send u a supportive reply for each video
its jus we focus at the video
great work guys
Once in Korea, in a bank, my friend (who is ethnic Korean but doesn’t speak Korean as a native language, she is still learning it) named a bank office worker ‘you’. She said he was furious, but he didn’t wear any sign with his name and/or status/position. In russian we have two types of “you”: formal and informal, they are different. There are many ethnic Koreans in Russia and they really struggle with that “you” thing...
These videos are just so helpful!!! 👀
Thank you so much!!!
In a way, I am so glad I started watching k-dramas in my early teen years and only started thinking about actually learning the language in my early twenties because now all those little pesky "things" in the language that have to do with the culture, sound normal to me. As for 당신, I always remember a scene in a drama where the mother stopped by her daughter's apartment and hides when she hears her daughter come in with someone, a man, only to jump out, asking "당신 ? !" in a "wtf" kind of way after her daughter used it to address the guy 😂 That's when I learned that 당신 was not to be used with just anyone, although I didn't really understand the specifics of that form of "you" and when it should be used.
thank you
선현우 선생님 안녕하세요. The white board is very effective. =)
Very helpful :)
Thank u for th video 😄Pleas can you teach as how to make phrases i mean the general rules to make phrases in korean thank you
One day I asked the same question to a friend that know he told me that I should say "오빠는" instead of "너"&"당신" It was a little bit confusing but now it makes sense 👏🏻👏🏻THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH TEACHER ~~~ ❤️
He just wants you to call him 오빠 :)
I needed this lol.
So, I wanna make sure the same rule applies in these situations too- If someone asks, "What's your name?" "When is your birthday?" "How old are you?"
And I want to say, "And what about you/yours?" Do I just repeat the same sentence back to them using the "시" conjugation?
When is your birthday?
생일이 언제야?
생신이 언제세요?
How old are you?
나이가 어떻게 되세요?
몇살이야? (When listener looks like definitely kid only)
How about you?
그쪽은요? (or XX씨는 요?)
어떻게 생각하세요? (mostly use this)
너는 (어때 usually omit)?
@@user-cv2fb8br4w 어! 진짜 *감사합니다!!! 🤗🥰
@@KelahCash 한국어 어려운데 공부에 도움이 됐길 바랍니다~😊
@@user-cv2fb8br4w 네! 도움이 됐습니다! 🥰 전 고맙습니다!
thank yooou
Next lesson onwards little slowly please 😊
Wonderful
OBRIGADA!! 💜💜💜💜💜💜
안녕하세요 선생님! Thank you so much for this video... I was wondering if maybe you could help me understand the use of 사동사. Does it mean the use of passive verbs? I'd really appreciate your explanation. Thank you :)
Hi. Thank (U) very much. This was quite helpful. Still struggling with some sentences though. For instance, how to say : "Is this yours?" when you don't know the other person's name...
I'm a beginner.... And I get really confused as to when to use 은/는 & 이/가 for a subject...
Can you please help with that?
Thank you :)
Same problem
Same
Same :c
@@honeyb.3799 same lool
If there is 받침(the ending sound?)
use 는 or 이
No 받침 :
Use 은 or 가
Hahaha.. classic Hyonwoo trying to show off his new tech!
🤣 🤣🤣🤣 'Great sentence!!!... Just forget about this half of it... No, thinking it better, forget about all of it'. You are so funny.
You can also use '저기요' instead of '당신' or '너'. If you want to ask someone at restaurant or street. Almost korean say '저기요'
Interesting format. What about 이 분 or 이 쪽? Wondering why you omitted that though
Good..... 💪💪💪
"저기" is super go to word. "실례지만" is also good.
I use 동지 or 동무 a lot of the time, super easy, you don't need to know people's titles or status or name.
Thank you for the lesson. My partner has an acquaintance who is Korean and he says 당신 to me all the time. Both on the phone and face to face. He is very polite otherwise, and speaks really slowly so that I can understand.
Also, how about all the other ''you''s, like 자네, 그대 etc. It would be nice if you could gather *all* of them in one place, because it feels as if, no matter how many years one spends studying Korean, there are always some new ways of saying ''you'' to be discovered along the way.
Maybe he assumed the more contextualized side of Korean would've been tougher for you and used it to make it more precise
I got a TTMIK ad before this video
Thank you for getting me out of the dark 😭
What's the difference between using 좋아하세요 and 좋아애요? Is 좋아하세요 used regarding the person I am talking to? Would I use 좋아해요 only with regards to me?
You can use them but use them in the right way
to all korean teacher please come to algeria because we don't have .almost no one .we have center and colleges to learn languages like japaneese and chineese but korean languages no infortunitly. so if you are korean teacher please come and teach here in Algeria thank you.
I used to have a really difficult time remembering Korean names when I first came to Korea, until I started using phonetic tricks. But it only works if you know a bit of korean.
At dinner yesterday with my YWAM worship group I met a new friend named 창현, which was similar to 찬양 (praise). Then I met a girl named 하나, which was similar to 하나님 (God)
I used to hate when people called me Justin Bieber, but now I suggest it as a phonetic memory tool when I meet someone. Even if they don't like him, no one forgets my name, and we have a good laugh that breaks the awkwardness of meeting someone new.
Be light hearted and roll with it. Leave your offense at the door when coming to Korea, or get rid of it, and you'll have a much better life :D
Awesome tip
4:10 so if I’m the same age as the student, do I still call them 학생?
OMG!! 정말 감사합니다 선생님 ... 방금 우리 한국 친구한테 물어봤지만 그는 못해요 ㅎㅎ
... And it's resolve my problem 😂
오빠 감사합니다 ..
안녕하세요? 선생님, 제가 이/가하고 은/는 배웠는데 확실히 사용 못 하니까 저에게 확실히 어떻게 이용한 지 확실히 설명해 주세요.
What's the difference between 근데 and the other "BUTs" in Korean???
And how to use it?
There are some words for one's self, for instance 자기/자신 or 스스로 or words like that. Is it possible to use those kinds of words in a similar context? Like "자기는/스스로 어떻게 생각하세요?" (How do /you think about this topic?)
Is that too rude/incorrect?
I'm curious about this too! I hope TTMIK makes a follow up video on these words
dongwoo kim 그렇군요! 좋은 설명 해주셔서 감사합니다 😊