Prusa XL Review - My Thoughts after 1 Month of Printing!
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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I'm SOOO glad someone is actually making videos about the XL! Thank you for that!
I preordered a 1x tool head, semi-assembled kit. And it was a day 3 preorder. I hope that I might get it in June😅. I have 2 other Prusas and love them, and love what Prusa has done for the home 3D printing space. Thats why I was willing to do a pre-order. And the Cord XY, loadcell bed leveling, print size and independent heating zones are what sold me on it, and why I am keeping my pre-order. I know the Bambu is the new kid that everyone is in love with, but I want to support a company that supports the open source community and the original open source idea that home 3D printing was built around
I agree with you! I'm sure you'll love it when you get it. Thanks!
Bambu has other issues as well, without monkey rig rolls of pla don’t fit ( why are customers printing out jigs to move PLA from cardboard reels to Bambu reels? ) crazy to print out color model the uses more PLA then what you printed poop sounds right ( I got 5 airbrushes and old fashion paint brushes) I will wait for XL
When you have a chance (if you even see this) can you tell me how the assembly process is like on the semi assembled xl?
Cool you will be really hapy with XL i have 5 of them 2x signe tool and 3x 5tool and Iam more then happy with them.
I just got my single extruder xl and had very much the same feelings. I love how the bed leveling just works and is fiddle free. The size of the bed feels good. Totally worth the price tag in my opinion.
Great to hear!
You are a champion for giving us so much information on this new machine!
Thank you!
I saw someone else mention the Elegoo Neptune 3 Max, and I'd like to add the Kobra Max as another large FDM printer. Neither will be as consistent, reliable, or fast as the Prusa as bedslinging printers instead of a CoreXY motion system, but definitely good budget options for anyone who wants a large printer. Currently building a Voron 2.4 as 3D printing is much more of a hobby to me than a source of income, but am excited to experience CoreXY at home.
Good to know. Thanks!
I think I like this review better then a very technical review from someone who is going to never use it again after the review. A real world usability review, enjoyed it.
Thanks so much! I don't know all the crazy engineering mechanical info. But I know I like it!
I’ve ordered a 5 tool head version and I got my order confirmed prior to the official announcement due to the leak at Rapid. Ordered for the size and multi color capabilities that the current MMU does not possess. Namely filament swapping for a single nozzle.
Loved your video. Subscribed.
Awesome! Can't wait to see it!
That flawless first layer on such a big printer is just fantastic!!
Yes it's beautiful! Thanks!
I ordered the semi-assembled XL single tool head, mostly due to the build volume. Coming from an Ender 3 v2 as my first and only printer, I cannot WAIT for this auto first layer calibration.
You will love it! Thanks
Nice review. Input shaping support is going to be a game changer for the XL. I just hope it works well with the tool changer -- that the attachment mechanism doesn't mess up the harmonics so badly by rattles etc, that it couldn't be mitigated by the input shaping algorithms.
each tool head on the XL has its own accelerometer so they will calibrate for each tool head individually and should be able to compensate for basically anything.
XL with input shaping will be awesome
Thank you! Yes, I am looking forward to more improvements to come!
Imupt shaper works really gret with 5 tools i hav3 of them and works perfectly. I also dont use waste tower and print without it. Also combination of materials work perfrctly.
Non-soluble supports PLA on PETG and PETG on PLA are going to be a better way to go for many use cases. PVA and other soluble supports are very expensive and most cases using PLA as a support for PETG or PETG as a support for PLA works perfectly. The only case where I use PVA on IDEX printers is when the supports are internal to the structure and need to be dissolved out.
Yes that makes sense. Can't wait! Thanks!
I think the optimum would be a support interface in the other material, so that the support itself is from the same material. That way you would have less toolchanges and a shorter overall print time.
I've had my XL for about a month, and agree with everything you mentioned. I print mostly Ninjaflex Ninja and Cheetah. The 95A Cheetah is not to bad to push to the print head, the 85A Ninja, I bypass the sensor on the left side.
Use a scrap filament to keep it open, and set up a feeder on the back of the machine with it's own tube zip tied alongside the OEM tube. It works, but a better solution would be the filament holder above the machine feeding directly to the extruder,
You are correct the holder should be shorter some cad person out there I am sure will design one the ender 6 same way with long feed tube.
Interesting. Do you think having it above would make it even taller?
@@tada3dprinting Yes it has to clear the harness, but for flexible filaments it would be so much easier to load and print.
Great to get some insights as a day-to-day printer. I've got my 2-head version pre-ordered. Really hoping to see it before the end of the summer. Very interested to see how much speed they can pull out once the input shaping is released.
Thanks!
Even without input shaping when I get my XL I am going to use a v6 nozzle adapter and a 0.6 CHT to really increase the speed
My excitement for this printer goes up and down like a roller-coaster😅 but if I had the money, printing with multiple tool heads, without the Bambu-like poop shoot, would be my main game with the XL.
Things I think should come with the price: closed build volume, direct extruder, speed, different nozzles, wifi & Touchscreen. They definitely did a great job in the firmware.
Yes there are good and bad things with it. I agree more features would greatly improve it. Overall I am happy. Thanks!
it has a direct drive extruder though…? the bowden tubes are only to guide the filament lol
"I love the big print volume but I don't like that big prints take a long time" 🤣
I guess that we all share. We all want big prints, high quality and fast print-time. Unfortunately you may only select max. 2 out of 3 of those.
I completely agree with the filament loading and unloading and to add to this, the filament sensors both on the side and in the head tend to 'resist' the filament and it takes some force to push the filament through them and especially with a flexible filament that makes loading the filament more difficult.
But I love the print quality and I also love how the printer looks. The complete enclosed frame makes it so much more easy to clean than any of the other printers I own
Good to hear! Thanks!
Thank you for the review :)
I'm sure you can turn off the Z calibration. It is initiated by the Start G-Code, so you can edit that in print settings in slicer. That way it will start printing based on the last calibration as far as I understand.
I think that's possible. I'm forgetful and switch my build sheet often. So it's probably better for me to just leave it on. Thanks!
With new binary g codes , imputshaper and multitool this machine is totally gamechanger. You can combine materials with zero waste of material.
My 5 toolhead has been a huge learning curve but I think I'm getting there. Thanks!
that first layer quality is absolutely insane.
i have never seen any first layer this good out of the box except for the MK4 reviews that are online already.
Mk4 uses the exact same levelling system as the XL so it's no surprise.
Yes I am in LOVE with my first layer! Thanks!
If you print mainly with PLA don't waste your money on soluble support material. Use PETG in the second extruder with a zero z offset on supports.
Yes that will be a good alternative. Thanks!
Planning to pick up this printer and for some reason, your videos seem to answer exactly the type of questions I have. Thank you! Subscribed. I'd be really curious to see what the speed is like once the firmware with input shaping is released. Agree about a motor feeding the filament. The competition is Bambu and the X1C does use motors...
Great to hear! Thank you!
You probably get asked this comparison alot but what do you find more useful/practical: the size and multi material of xl or speed and cost of bambu?
Personally, the rationale part of my brain knows I don’t need the volume or multi material of the prusa.
But the consumer part of my brain knows Id always be yearning for that sweet sweet multi material life.
*edit* I forgot to mention that I stumbled on your channel a few weeks ago and its been really nice just hearing someone enjoy their printers and working on the models. Seems like most channels today have gone to technical specs or sponsorship. Not hating on them, just enjoy the change of your channel. Thanks for the vids!
I like having an XL for the size of multicolor. Its very time and filament efficient. But I am still fighting with mine more than I would like. I have a 3rd XL preorder that I'm not going to finalize because of the trouble I have had.
And I find myself using the X1C more. I just feel like the Bambu is fun to use.
That's nice of you to say. Thanks!
Thanks for the update. I have a multi-head on pre-order and can't wait! I recently switched to the Bambu X1C from the MK3S/MMU2S and am really loving the auto-z calibration and so glad the XL has it as well.
How easy was the Bambu to use after Prusa? Thanks!
@@tada3dprinting The Bambu is super easy to use. I've had no problems at all.
@@eburgess4 great to hear! Thanks!
Calibration before every print is mandatory if you want a perfect 1 layer. First bed mesh and a bed mesh after a longer print will be different.
With Klipper you can do the bed mesh only for space the part is cover on the bed. This speeds it up a little. But for me 20min is the min time my printer needs for first print. I print ABS mainly. The chamber has to be heated up. Even with a chamber heater that needs time.
Using cht nozzles and a hf with a 0.6 nozzle speed up things even further. I have a Voron V2.4R2 with 350mm build plate.
True. It takes time, but it's worth it. Thanks!
Your printer looks a bit wobbly when you're working on it. I highly recommend you put it on a flat, stable surface, or shim the feet so it doesn't wobble like that. This is especially important if you're going to try and speed up your print times. since this will cause more accelerations and decelerations during the print, which will increase the shaking and possibly impact your print quality. I put my printers on rubber mats, and you might consider doing the same thing? it does make a difference.... If speed is important, then you really do want that printer absolutely solid, not wobbling.
Thank you. I will look into it.
Thank you for all the Prusa XL content and reviews. Before I order one, I'm waiting to see reviews on the 5 toolhead version once people start getting those. Automatic tool changing would be a game changer for me
Yeah I can't wait for that! I'm curious to see if the 5 toolhead or additional toolheads for the single will come out first. Thank you!
The ABL time is long but worth it IMHO. I think about soooo many print restarts I have had to do over the years because I was impatient. I do an ABL before every print and my re-starts went down considerably. Great user perspective video. I like your idea of adding a second feed motor to speed the loading/unloading of the filament.
Yes I really like this new auto Z. You're right, it's still faster than restarting a print. Thanks!
not only will the input shaping be a huge change in speed but once you have multi tool and are using multiple colors, you will be printing much faster than any other printers at this time that print multi-color. The time difference in the filament change vs. the tool head swap can make the difference of hours of saved time, not to mention all the filament wasted in purging out the previous color.
Very true. I am still hoping they let us add on more heads on these single heads at some point. Thanks!
my guess is that will happen as soon as the pre-orders have been completed. I have a 5 tool preorder from 8/22 so I have a ways but I have really enjoyed your content, and appreciate you sharing your experiences. I have already learned so much about the XL, I think Ill be pretty comfortable with it from Day 1.@@tada3dprinting
Thanks so much!
Is your workshop in a container? I would like a workshop tour! 😊
It's just a metal shed that we finished out the interior walls/ceiling with metal. It's 12' x 24' so a little wider than a shipping container. I'll have to do a tour soon. Thanks!
Thanks for this. It’s good to see and hear some feedback. I may have missed but have you played with Prusa connect at all?
Not yet. I have terrible signal in my print room. But I do need to try this out. Thanks!
@@tada3dprinting thanks for the reply!
Usually the Auto Bed Leveling is initiated by a command in your start G-Code. You should be able to remove it.
If you do that, you should probably do one ABL at 60°C (if you plan to print a lot of PLA) and save it to EPROM (there's a G-Code command for that as well).
You might need to do it again, if you remove the magnetic sheet from the bed after a print.
Oh I'll look for that. Thanks!
If you're going to do the one abl a temperature, give the bed like 15 minutes at temperature before you do the abl. Right when it hits temperature there can be some fluctuations so petting it sit for a bit will be more accurate as to the surface when it's printing an object.
Anycubic Kobra Max and Elego have a larger print size. There are others.
Yeah but not Core XY.
What's the size on these? Do they have z calibration? Not the auto Z on the XL but more like the regular Prusa calibration?
@@tada3dprinting Neptune max is 42x42x50 and have 6 lvl nobs and auto bed calibration. I think i will test one out, seems good price vs area, but its a bed slinger.
Seems like many kits example tronxy3dprinter have huge print areas, but seems many users give up during calibration.
And then its looots of big core xy printers but 5k us+ so can argue they are "professional" and ur prusa is bigest core xy normal printer idk. Im looking for a big printer that would give me good quality, speed at good price with least headache, but seems hard :3 Im thinking neptune with klipper, changed extruder and cht nozzle might be ok. But Tronxy VEHO 600 2E is very tempting. Anyways will be cool to se how prusa xl with 5 extruder will be, likly very slow i think 3: Snapmaker j1 gonna realise their firmware code so maybe that printer will be workable in time(small but idex)
@Broski Snowski yeah but Vorons you gotta build yourself. They are awesome though.
@@BrainActivity1 I'm not against trying out other brands. I started with a Crealty and I couldn't get it to print consistently. I know some love them, but it didn't work for me. I switched to Prusa and love them. I don't think I could do anything without auto bed calibration. But a large size and speed sound great! Thanks!
I have the single tool partial assembled ordered. Thx for your reviews and videos, looking forward to when mine will ship.
Thanks!
Thank for for the detailed review!
Thank you for the review. I have a question though. When you were first changing the filament the was it the XL wobbling or the desk? That was a bit disconcerting.
Oh it does look like that but I actually bumped my camera stand and that was rocking back and forth a little. The XL is very sturdy. Thanks!
I like your print reviews. I have the Elegoo Neptune 3 Max and that has a 420x420x500 build volume but it’s not Core XY but Cartesian. It has a lot of good features like LED lights and best of all it was $460. But your Prusa has cool features like the tool heads.
Like the MK4 your XL will probably have input shaping and faster printer in a firmware update hopefully soon.
Yeah it will be nice to turn this into more with the toolheads etc. But an inexpensive large build size sounds great too! Thanks!
@@tada3dprinting the Neptune 3 models are sold out constantly and have really good reviews. They seem to have good quality control also but only getting one is hard. They print very nicely. The fans also shut off after printing and cooling so it’s completely silent if you don’t power them off. The led light can be controlled with gcode. I have it turn on and off after printing.
They seem like the best bang for the buck right now for a fdm bedslinger.
0:55, there are other large printers out there that are not kits but they are bed slingers:
Naptune Max is 420x420x500 but bed is actually 430.
Kobra Max 3D is 450 x 400 x 400 mm
Creality CR-M4 is 450*450*470mm
Thanks!
Great video, that first layer looks pristine! I pre ordered kit one nozzle on day of release. Don’t know where I can fit it but can’t wait til it comes, then in the future add more nozzles.
Great plan! Thanks!
So...all I'm hearing is 'wrong' is convenience things. That's fantastic. None of the issues you mentioned bother me. Thanks!!!!! I have a two head coming in and I _cannot_ wait!!!!!
Yes, the cons are just convenience things that are not deal breakers for me. I am very happy with this printer. I'm sure you will too. Thanks!
Can't wait to get my multi-hotend unit, which I got to do actual multi-material prints (as MMU2S was not cutting it...)
Me too! Thanks!
I ordered first and foremost because of the excellent Prusa quality and support. Second, I needed larger print area (was actually hoping for a 400 mm3...) I ordered with 2 heads, but I`m very close to alter that order to 5 heads when they start shipping. I have, and have had, a lot of printers, Prusa beat them all in terms of reliability.
I'm sure you'll love it! Thanks!
I have a two heads ordered. Looking a using solvable support and PLA support on PETG
Yes I can't wait! I'm curious to see if add ons for this or the 5 toolheads will come out sooner. Thanks!
You should look at a ratrig v-core.
Bigger print area than this, by a lot... And MUCH faster!
This does have the toolchanger option down the track so that's probably the only reason I would look at a Prusa XL
Does it have auto z calibration? Thanks!
@@tada3dprinting a lot of the suggestions people have said for ratrigs, vorons etc all have z calibration but are probably awful recommendations for you as they're printers you have to source and build yourself so require lots of tinkering. The prusas, elegoos and bambu labs are probably your best bet if you don't want to tinker
@@milesalexandria3862 Thats because people who want to tinker with printers build one of them as a project to tinker with.
I run them in a farm, my first Voron 2.4 just had a gantry rebuild after 12000 hours... That's the first I've had to touch it.
Yes its a big build... But the speed difference between the XL and one of these more capable DIY machines would make up for that time after a week of printing!
@@tada3dprinting it has true automatic bed levelling where the bed tilts to align to the gantry, but you just need to set your z offset. Once you get that part set then it prints perfect first layers as well.
Because it runs Klipper you can also set it to use the adaptive area mesh like the MK4 where it just probes the area of the bed that you are printing on
Looks really nice, out of my price range though. Prusa is a good brand though. 3d printing is a tinkering hobby though I have to admit they are getting better at being less tinkering machines. Bed leveling is a necessary evil. Be glad you have a auto bed leveling system rather than having to do it manually. There are ways to reduce the amount of probing though the leveling might suffer a bit on such a large bed and you would need to know how to modify firmware. Your lucky you can now buy a corexy in a mostly assembled kit now. Usually you have to put a corexy 3d printer together yourself.
One thing I don't understand is the speed. Most corexy machines are capable of incredible speeds though you would suffer quality at really high speeds and you would definitely need input shaping. This machine would probably benefit from having klipper firmware on it. I imagine Prusa will eventually modify their firmware for increased speed. I bit disappointing they did not do that right out of the box. If Bambu Labs and Creality can do it I am sure Prusa can. Still, it is a nice machine.
I think there are still improvements to come. But it's frustrating that they take sooo long to get and still aren't optimized. Thanks!
Thank you for review. Looks like very first video review.
5:40 are you sure it shows the actual printing layer? For me it looks more like it is just coloring the STL preview along with progress bar.
Yes, it's hard to see on such a small print. But it does move back and forth to which side of the print it's working on. I'll have to record this and show it on a larger sized print. Thanks!
I preordered the dual head Prusa XL for the reason that I want to use soluble supports. I got an IDEX printer to do this a while ago but the machine barely works I wouldn't recommend its use or maintenance on anybody.
If I really like it I may backorder the five head version.
Sounds like a good plan! Thanks!
Thanks for introducing me to this. Wasn't convinced of the other big printers so far and hadn't heard of this one before.
Regarding the long print times: why not use a larger nozzle size? Is it not supported yet?
The default that's shipped is a .6 nozzle. I did order some other sizes and will see how this helps. Thanks!
What is your Etsy store?
My etsy store is called MyLilVillage. www.mylilvillage.etsy.com Thanks!
Maybe you could eventually get additional tool heads and have your most common colors loaded in all the time
Yes that's true. That'll help a lot. Thanks!
thanks for making these videos showing how every day life can be with this awesome printer. I do have one question, I have my XL on preorder mainly to print many small items rather than 1 large item. How does the XL do with prints that like, full or mostly full sheets of smaller items. Does it seem to be consistent? Im hoping I can print 6 or more items on the XL that I normally can only print lets say 3 on the MK3. any thoughts would be welcome and thanks again!
The only multi print I have done so far is the ant. You can check that out in my videos. That did very well with multiple different shaped items. I did see a little ringing on the ant head. But thats not really a multi print issue. It's a layer height issue. Overall, my XL is my fastest printer by far. So not only would you be able to start a print that has more items, it will finish quicker than the MK3 too. I'm finding it to be about 1/3 faster. Hope this helps! Thanks!
How fast do you find you are typically able to print at? I have a 9 year old printer that I currently go between 50-70mm/s. I am sure this can do quite a bit faster than that?
Sorry it doesn't let me send screenshots in the messages. I am just using the default settings so far. The .32 speed default has perimeters at 70. Hope this helps!
Not really fair to knock a printer for a self inflicted mistake like changing the filament and losing time. But overall a great video.
Thank you
If you wanter larger and faster printer you will prob look into the ratrig which can support a 500mm bed. However, is completely in kit form.
Yeah idk if I have the patience for it but the size sounds great! Do you know how long they usually take to put together?
I have a single head on pre-order, but want to see the reviews on the 5 head - will probably go with that, as a few more months won't make much of a difference. I will make one comment on your review - I have two Rat Rigs - both larger print areas than the XL, one is a 500 mm cube and the other a 400 cube. The Prusa XL startup is faster then the Bambu, but for both that is what allows the "perfect" first layer.
Yes I can't wait for the 5 toolhead! Does the ratrig have z calibration like the Prusas? Thanks!
@@tada3dprinting The Rat Rig must have the Z offset manually, but then does a bed mesh. It uses 3 Z axis motors, so can use the bed probe to tram the bed. On my 500 cube I have the value set to .02mm on the 400 it is .015. The bed mesh can be saved and then used the next print - speeding up the start process. I do the tramming and bed mesh every print, it adds 3-5 minutes, but why chance it on a 5+ hour print. Rat Rigs have also developed a large community with mods and upgrades. It is a good platform to work with
Im liking your channel, keep up the great work! Give us a link to your your etsy store. Whats the main filament you print with? No need for an enclosure? Air quality?
Thank you! I mainly print PLA. I have only had slight warping on my helicopter pad and found a way around the warping without an enclosure. I would love the draft shield when it comes out tho. I haven't noticed any odd smells etc since I mainly print in PLA. Thanks!
How do you print a flat sheet like that? I need to clean my bed...
I just made a 14" square x 1/2" tall in tinkercad, pulled it in to prusalicer and adjusted the height until it was a single layer and sliced it. The XL is amazing at printing a super smooth 1st layer! Thanks!
FYI, there are plenty of printers that are the size of the XL. I won't say they are better, but they are significant cheaper.
Ender 5
Cr10 max
Etc.
I'll look into them. I had a Creality as my first printer and it was too much tinkering for me. Thanks!
Should be possible to stop the levelling for each print, by changing the start Gcode in the slicer. On my ratrig it is not necessary every print, should be possible to do the same for the xl. Just do it when you need to.
Yeah I will look into this. I am forgetful tho. I'm sure I would switch build plates and forget and ruin something. Thanks!
I am not sure if it's true, but I think I heard that on the MK4 you can turn the Auto-Z-Callibration off once it's done. Becouse you dont need it before every single print, unless you change nozzle or printsheet.
Maybe on the XL you can turn it off too ?
I'll look into it. Thanks!
yes pre-ordered 5 tool head and waiting ever so patiently waiting waiting waiting ...
Reason is simply build volume as well as brand I trust for workhorse machine that I will not have to worry about and can upgrade or source parts as needed due to open source. Five tool heads because in for a penny in for a pound and if I am dropping this much on a new machine machine I might as well go all out.
Sounds like a good idea! I ordered this one. And then ordered another 5 toolhead the same day for that reason. Might as well get in line. Thanks!
Is the RGB light in the display the only one? I thought they put RGBW lights in the top as well? That's what i remembered from the presentation video.
The default settings when I got it only have RGB along the bottom of the display screen. There are lights along the top of the printer that I show next in the video. But these only dim and brighten. I have not seen them change color. Not sure if there is a way to change that. I remember the video online showing them changing color too. I'll have to look into this.
I iordered the XL with 2 tool heads. still waiting for it to arrive. going on 2 years now
Yes I have a 5 toolhead I am waiting on. I'm sure they'll be great when we get them but the waiting is ridiculous. Thanks!
@@tada3dprinting I feel like the Squidward meme with him looking out the window blinds at SpongeBob and Patrick enjoying their bamboo's lol
I was wondering how easy it was to change the filament while I was watching the video and then you mentioned it. Seems a shame that they didn't put a filament feeder at the start of the Boden tube. I haven't placed an order yet as im waiting to see reviews of the XL with multiple extruders (i.e. multi-colour) as I want to see how small a wipe tower you can get away with.
Yeah it would just be a nice feature. There are a couple videos out there showing the 5 toolhead at some shows. Thanks!
It does take a minute to insert the filament, but I feel it is a blessing to do it manually. The more complicated you make the system the more errors and issues you will introduce. It was better to avoid complications like the MMU units have because they have a motor to load filament.
The Auto Level is just awesome.
The calibration every time is something you should get used to it.
The preheat time is pretty good for its size and also depends on print volume. It also calibrates just for the File size and not the whole print bed right? So its a very effektive time saver for this printer size.
So Prusa needs to set up input shaper and speed and there are no more arguments against it.
Still upset that this are working printers but should be clearly called beta units.
Yes it just calibrates the area that it prints, so smaller prints take less time. I noticed the XL in pictures on the website have orange details and mine has black. Makes me wonder if I do have a beta unit. Or if the beta units were orange. Overall I'm happy to have it tho. Thanks!
@@tada3dprinting they clearly not shipped the XL to Customers as beta units but since there are some major improvements coming, it should be called like that even the printer works fine. As single head unit it is (auto level and heating areas beside) a pretty expensive tool right now.
But be excited with all that comes in future. (Me too)
Prusa improves all Printers all the time and thats a big point too. Have fun :)
@@tada3dprinting Beta were orange. The production printer was also supposed to be orange, but they changed their mind and went black instead. The single toolhead has updated photos on the website - it's in black - but I see that multi toolhead versions still use old beta photos with orange.
@@shushuda ok that makes sense. Thanks!
Hello could you tell me where to find the file you print around the 7th minute of your great vidéo please ? And thank you very much for this one
Sure! Here's the link - www.printables.com/model/430012-ultralight-2gram-glider-print-in-place Thanks!
@@tada3dprinting Thanks !
Great review, glad to hear it's a good printer. I use MK3s all day long at my day job and ordered a XL, can't wait to get mine. This will "replace" my commercial grade Stratasys Dimension SST1200ES printer Ive had for over 15 years. Have you done any benchmark tests to evaluate part dimensional accuracy? After all that's what REALLY matters at the end of the day for assembly parts. Cool that you're a girl! LOL Please do take offense i just think its cool, sounds like you know your stuff.
You'll love the XL, especially the auto z calibration! I just posted a video today of some calibration cubes. Thanks for your support!
5:40 It's not highlighting the area where its print! It's just a simple animation of progress bar.
It actually does change the highlighted area where it's printing, not just a percentage. I'll need to record this better. Thanks!
@@tada3dprinting Ok, thanks for the additional information. But I still think that this is only a progress bar... because if we look at the display - so at this moment the "3D benchy" is printed vertically? .. ;) Anyway, the Prusa XL looks like a good printer, and when it has a multi tool it will be even better. I had ordered a multi tool XL printer, but changed to MK4 kit - now I'm waiting for delivery.
@@janchix03 I'm sure you'll love the MK4. Thanks!
Flying Bear Reborn 2 with Klipper and Manuel Mesh Bed is just to do once and it saves the mesh for every print.
Do you switch build plates often? Thanks!
@@tada3dprinting No, its a Glas bed. So have to wait a bit
Ahh I see the Eiffel Tower being sliced, can’t wait to see how it prints!
Yes it's printed, just gotta edit and get it scheduled. Thanks!
I have my XL from 1 month, it's good, but there are still a lot of things that need to be dealt with, printing large cube objects has lots of flaws with the default settings. that's too bad for me....
Yeah I am seeing a LOT of banding. Glad I'm not the only one! Thanks!
great video do you have a link to your etsy shop and I will purchase something to support.
My etsy store is called MyLilVillage. www.mylilvillage.etsy.com Thanks!
Thank you for your pros and cons. I'm considering this or a Voron 350mm 2.4R2 DIY, or may just get a Creality k1 max and hope it's reliable while saving some coin.
Regarding the price of the Prusa XL, I considered that a Voron 2.4r2 Bill of Materials comparable the Prusa will cost realistically about $2400 USD depending on which materials, extruder, nozzles and circuit boards, and I'd still need to invest 30 hrs minimum to research and assemble those materials, i say the Prusa XL is a decent price.
Then there is the Bambu P1P and X1C, which is 100% proprietary and requires connecting to communist Chinese government for operation. I can't even consider the Bambu for those reasons, unfortunately.
I really like how easy the Prusa XL is to use. My first printer was a Creality CRsomething and I couldn't figure it out. Bambu is definitely interesting with their speeds but their bed size is too small to replace my XL. I do understand being hesitant. I don't know anything about the Voron. But for me, being able to print right away is worth it to spend a little more too. Thanks!
have you printed any TPU by chance? I'm sure its great but just wondering how well it does as i print a lot of TPU. I ordered mine day 1 late for the toolheads and bed size. I have a Mk2 Prusa so everything else is just a bonus...lol
I have printed a small flat square with TPU and it did good. My MK3s likes to clog with TPU but the XL did good with this print. I then did a benchy and that looks terrible. What do you print with TPU?
@@tada3dprinting Drone parts mostly. I print more TPU and PETG but do print PLA.
hi thank you for the video. could this print polycarbonate. not sure if prusa would have an enclosure.
I have not printed it. But yeah you may need an enclosure. Unfortunately, Prusa hasn't made much progress with that yet.
@@tada3dprinting thank you. Appreciate the help
thank you for your videos i want to get it and i can't wait for the version with 5 printheads ps sorry for my english i am french canadian😁
I am also ready for the 5 tool head. Great to hear! Thanks!
What sort of footprint/clearance do you feel you need for this beast?
Good question! It's a large printer. Minimum size is 25" deep, if you're ok with the screen hanging off the front. And 35" tall is very important. Width depends on if you have a single or multi tool head. I made a video about all this - ruclips.net/video/HTbV_eEHI10/видео.html
Thank you!
Did you ever test a bambu lab?
I haven't. But I am getting Facebook ads for them. And the speed, price and multicolor sound great. I just need something larger. Maybe if they come out with an XL? Thanks!
I got my preorder in not real happy it going to take until end of the year for me to get one! This is a core X Y and will do lots faster printing pursa needs to take in account bambu is faster and there losing some market shares because one this is not available yet and two it is slower when printing. The bed level can be adjusted by firmware updates. Again that something pursa needs to look at the customer base and stop sitting on there hands and work on it. The BED size is why I preorder this printer like you I do not want to sit around and cut cut cut up a model I have to then putty putty putty later when putting models together. Bottom line this printer is a retirement printer when space ships will be printing faster then I can airbrush them I hope...
I'm sure they will start speeding up shipping these out. But yes lots to improve! One single print is amazing. But of course now I want even bigger! Thanks!
How's the noise level on the xl compared to the mini?
The XL is definitely louder but it also moves faster. Currently the MK4 with Input Shaping is my loudest. Thanks!
Great video - thank you. Would you have the dimensions of the box it came in, please?
I don't remember the height. But it was 24" x 29". It surprised me how small it was because the overall size is much larger. The filament holder and the toolhead are not attached. This makes it much more compact.
@@tada3dprinting Thanks for the response. I'm considering ordering one and I wasn't sure it would fit through the door.
6:42 the speed we want :)
I wish that glider printed that fast! Thanks!
Thanks for your honest review that proves the Prusa XL is total JUNK with undeveloped control software!
Amazing vid, but I wouldn't consider this a full review to people out there. With the article stating they'll add pressure advance and input shaping, you cant say it prints slow just yet. Also, with the bed leveling and pre-print calibration, they might add a similiar feature thats already on the MK4, which is leveling only in the print area. A lot have people have been saying that Prusa is behind the times, to which they are. But, these two machines they dropped (XL and MK4) could be a great step in open source 3d printing. I feel like as more firmware updates come out, the more the tech on these printers will become competitive. For example, the load cell on the Nextruder has sensors located by the extrusion system, allowing for a future firmware update that calibrates the extrusion rate. Due to there being a accelorameter in the print head, they might add a pre calibration test for input shaping before every print. I think with time, Prusa will put out amazing tech. What do you guys think?
Yes I am sure things will improve including the speed in the future. But it's hard to say when. This is what the defaults are for now. Thanks!
What type of filaments were you printing with in this video?
Everything was PLA in the video. Thanks!
Thanks a lot! Any word about printing speeds?
Everything is about 1/3 faster than the MK3s. I'll work more on speeds soon.
Since when a printer being faster is a negative point?
I guess I didn't word that well. It's nice that it's faster. But large prints take a long time. Longer than I was expecting. Thanks!
You should have gotten a bamboo x1. But prusa has the best prints.
Does it make more, less or the same amount of sound as a mk3s+
I would say the same. I have my print room in a separate structure from my house. The walls and ceiling are metal. And I use ikea furniture. Probably the worst setup for sound but since it's separate, it's not a big deal to me.
Have you watched an stuff from Teaching Tech?
I have see a couple. Need to watch more. Thanks!
that auto Z level is MONEY.. THAT is why you buy a Prusa.
Yes it's amazing! Thanks!
Whoa. That 1st layer sheet…
Yes, it's beautiful!
Whats your etsy store? 😀
My etsy store is called MyLilVillage. www.mylilvillage.etsy.com Thanks!
Prusa is really bad about releasing products that aren't finished.
I would love to have this printer, but my wallet is crying 😭
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Wait. No input shaping on this? How is that possible?
It's coming soon as a firmware update. I assume it will be released on MK4 and XL at the same time.
@@tada3dprinting It might be here earlier because I think unlike the Mk4 the XL has an accelerometer already installed. Also have you looked into your slicer pre start code to see if you can remove the G29 bed levelling line?
That looks horrifically slow. Am I reading it right that the single layer at 0.4mm (0.6 nozzle) takes OVER AN HOUR?!
The single layer in orange that I print in this video covers the entire build plate. It actually took 2 hours! Yeah it's slow. It's beautiful but it's slow. Thanks!
we have a 600x600x600
Sounds great! What is it?
I sharted
Only person to ever say the size of the build plate in inches
No where does it tell you the size in inches
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Thanks!