What The Lightning Just Did To Stamkos Was DISGUSTING...
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- How many of you remember the 2008 marketing campaign called Seen Stamkos? How time flies! 16 years, 555 goals, and 2 Stanley Cups later, it is hard to believe that Steven Stamkos' time with the Tampa Bay Lightning has come to an end. I have no issue with him leaving, but I do have an issue with how Julien Brisebois and the Lightning handled it, and that is the topic of today's video.
*NOTE*
In post, I realized "The worst period in franchise history" was a bit hyperbolic. OK Hockey LLC's ownership was tumultuous, but not as crazy as when the Lightning were allegedly owned by the Yakuza in the 1990s.
stop supporting overpaid athletes & this garbage league. Watching grown men play games is lame af anyway
@@JackieBillyTom lol... They are underpaid for current support. I do sympathise with sports ball lame, can't deny it entertains.
And to rub it in, Nashville even has tampa's 1st and 2nd round draft pick next draft
They leveraged off Tanner & Ryan. Both wins on their end, the Tanner trade was the worst trade in the 21st century.
Guentzel will be really good playing with Kuch and Point. Bolts might end up winning the cup.
@@Baleygrryour more delusional than a maple leaf fan 😂😂
@@brianterlecki7106 Your team?
How much more will JBB feed Nashville?
Didn’t the lightning treat Vinny Lecavalier and Martin St. Louis like moldy old bread after they were done with them too?
Yeah, they bought out Vinny and Yzerman left St.Louis off the Olympic team, even though he just lead the league in points.
@@TheBluelineHockey They did, that makes it OK!
I think you're Yzerman timeline is off. He didn't retire till 06 and Martin lead in like 03 .
I wish Steven all the best in nashville
💉= blood clots
Blood clots from 💉
@@TOCC50 rip stamkos
*Never trust management*. I would agree on that
Calgary fans were super mad when Gaudreau left and Calgary got nothing in return. Now TB just lets Stamkos go for nothing. If I was a TB fan, I wouldn't be anymore. LOL.
Sounds like you might be a flames fan? Does your stated sentiment about TB fans, also hold for you because the flames lost Johnny for nothing?
Calgary sucks!!
These new corporations buying clubs is turning the league into crap.
So are the jabs 💉
It already is a national hotdog league...
I am "old enough", to remember Gretzky's rookie campaign. This Stammer situation is preposterous. The Preds are going to be a force to be reckoned with, this season.
This has sealed my opinion on Tampa. I’ve been a casual fan since the St Louis and LeCavelier era, but they did those two dirty too. This was disgusting. Certainly never trust Tampa management. Loyalty doesn’t mean shit to them. I hope their core talent, and future league talent, sees this and stays clear. Tampa doesn’t deserve player of this caliber that have the willingness to give a “hometown” deal.
Brisebois is loyal to one person......Himself. He treated Stammer with a disrespect so terrible, every single Tampa fan that liked him (trust me it wasn't that many to begin with) hates him now.
this
please speak only for yourself
I still love him again u all think with only emotion (which I can understand he was my favorite player), but this decision was the right one, just not morally right
tampa offering $3m/year is incredibly insulting. Avs, Wings, found a way to keep Yzerman and Sakic. Stamkos is on that level and you find a way to keep him while he is producing WHICH HE IS! He isn't 38 and only put up 30 pots last year....duded is a PPG player who put up 40 goals last year.
Additionally, he scored 5 goals in 5 games in the first round loss vs. FL.
And yet, we get these self-anointed "cerebral" and "impartial" and "unemotional" internet contrarians lauding this move in how and why it was made.
Laughable.
Did you know, DID YOU KNOW that it is highly unlikely to keep winning cups and it's _ok_ to not win every year? Sometimes it's better to just be happy with what you've got.
Nope, whore city.
Stammer and Marchie, good for the Preds.
Great Video Post !!! Thank You !!💯👍🎯
The players will eventually get it and then they will have no more team!
The team that’s known for releasing star players
Vegas did the same with Johnathan Marchessault
Not the same, Vegas is still a young team in terms of how long they have been in the league. But hear what you’re saying.
I agree they used him up and let him go. It’s the same as business do the same thing to everyone in America! What have you done for me today not what you’ve done in the past. Period
As a Penz fan I get why moved on. You want to see your favorite players with your favorite organization, but there's a catch when their price tag drags down the team because they can't produce like they used to.
*Pens
@@bobabooey4537 I'm a Keystoner who doesn't spell the king'z english...
You spelled it just fine, N@ 👍😄
I wish Malkin would go somewhere for another cup. His days were over years ago. He only gave effort the last few weeks as usual for the salary hit we take on his contract.
i dont really have sympathy for guys making millions a year to play a kids game. who cares.
He has a better chance of getting another cup in Nashville. TB will be lucky to make the playoffs next year.
They had enough money to pay Guentzel but they didn’t have enough money to give Stamkos what he wanted! Pretty disgusting
Sign Guentzel for 9 mil the day before, play poverty franchise with Stammer with your insulting 3 mil per (he's getting old ya know) then extend Hedman (10 months younger) the VERY NEXT DAY for 8 mil per over 4 years - same exact deal Stammer got with Nashville (when he was willing to take less to stay in Tampa).
Some great fucking logic there. Not even getting into what he means emotionally to both the locker room and the fans.
Disgusting. Insulting to both Stammer and fans.
@@jfayiii well at least they aren’t the Leafs
its not that he left that is rough for fans as you said, its how he left i mean i personally understand if they wanted to move on but what i don't get is why didn't they just say that? Why did they disrespect him so much by offering a slap in the face 8 year $3 million deal then walk away knowing he wouldn't take it cause of the lengthy term and too low salary instead of either make more of an effort by giving out other ideas like 3-4 years for $4.5-5 million or simply say we are going in a different direction? Those options would've fared much better for JBB if any had been said
Let him walk just to give guenztel 9mill per. I’d rather have Stammer at his pred cap hit
guentzel is better 5vs5
Absolutely nothing disgusting there.
TB paid him handsomely for his services,they made him extremely rich for the rest of his life.
TB owes him nothing/Stamkos
owes them nothing.
Life goes on
Succinct summation of my feelings. I will be heartbroken to see Stammer in another sweater, but JBB's job is to put a winning team on the ice. Take this from someone who's only missed maybe 20 games of Stammer's career, this team's present and future got better this summer.
@@underpant I agree, this is wonderful. What a wonderful way to treat Stamkos. It's excellent. We are all just overjoyed to dump this bum. Nothing is owed. Toss out the jerseys now. Fuck him and his banner. Succinctly.
well they wouldn't have been relevant if it wasn't for him reviving them and the deal they offered was a huge slap in the face. If they wanted to move on they could've just said that
This is a business where players make big money. Nobody has to say thanks. They should, but if they don’t, so be it. I remember when Messier came to the Canucks. He was terrible and people were booing him. People said that was disrespectful. Nope. It’s a business.
If the bruins did this to bergy there would of been a riots in the streets of Boston
Exactly.
I lost all respect for lighting management, they handled it all wrong showed no class.
They committed long term cap friendly deals to Cernak, Paul, Cirelli and Hagel, and those add up. It. Is hard now to get under cap especially with Hedman coming up next year
They don't owe him anything. He was paid handsomely. It's a two way street. Ever heard of the word, "compromise"?😂
Love 91 and you are right-total disrespect.
91>jbb
he collected his pay cheques. what's the problem. blankies for everyone
Franchise prosperity > player's outrageous demands
NHL team owner gets 50% of all the money! Players get 50% of all tickets and jersey sales! 23 players get the Same money as one owner! Who is greedy?
LOL Stamkos' salary minimum (around 5 mil) was 'outrageous'.
Excellent run down of the biggest blunder in FL hockey history. I’m now excited to see how he does in Nashville.
I hope he wins the cup, Hart, and Conn Smythe. I also hope he never turns up for the banner.
This is so sad, after all Stamkos has done and given for Tampa 😏😒
Better yet, "never trust management" and be done with it.
they got a bunch of over the hill old guys. IF it doesnt work they are basically in trouble for the next 4-5 years
Who are these old guys you speak of? 😂
How much is a Stamkos contract?
$32 million...and you are feeling sorry for him!!
well no its how he left that we feel sorry for cause their was lots of optimism and being ignored the way he was was just mind boggling and disrespectful. Either make more of an effort to keep him or simply say we want to move on rather than give a low ball 8 year $3 million deal i mean that is a joke of an offer knowing he resurrected the bolts and 8 years being too long of a term and $3 million too low of a salary. More respectable options would be maybe 3-4 years for $4-5 million or simply saying we want to go in a different direction
Huck tuah girl lmao
I'm sure Tampa will be all over him when he retires and pretend nothing happened. Oh, it's "just" business. Maybe he'll surprise them when he goes to the HOF?
It's a buisness. Get over it.
I think Stamkos was great, but there were some championships where they didn't need him. Players like Vas, Point and Hedman are way more impactful.
It’s the tax hit ..it’s the same as there former teams. I knew he would end up with cali Florida Dallas Vegas or Nashville.
Im switching teams from the ligntning to the Panthers because of this.
Wow and just after Florida won a cup, what a coincidence!
Thats pathetic and sucky lol.
Nashville got that HAWK TUAH
Come on. Stop with that
@@robgranberg7854Y
@@robgranberg7854 ya it was funny for a bit now its beyond cringe.
$3 million over 8 years?! Ummm... I think that was meant to be $8 Mil over 3 years. Somebody transposed the numbers on what they heard was an 8 X 3 offer. 😂
You really don’t get it at all but that’s cool.
Business over feelings. Team over player.
Money over ethics.
@@IusedtohaveausernameIliked where does ethics fit in? Keeping Stammer for the feels is not good business
@@that_guy0_0 In a civilized world there is always room for ethics in every endeavor. Making it about "feelings' is missing the point on purpose.
@@IusedtohaveausernameIliked help me understand how ethics fits in this situation
@@IusedtohaveausernameIliked are you saying not signing him was unethical? If so, how?
that cant be true they offered only 3m.
Tampa should be in shame, Dumping Stamkos like they did , Disgusting ,
Today's NHLer's are greedy AF. Guys who get that big 8 year deal don't realized that there is only so much money in the well due to the salary cap and that there are up and coming players waiting to get their big 8 year deal. Once their contract is up, they still think they deserve a big chunk of change. You played and you got paid. If you're not willing to take a hometown discount when the big contract is up, move on. Teams want to stay fresh to compete. Don't blame Tampa one bit. You'll see this again next year when Crosby's contract expires. Same boat as Stamkos. Multiple Cup winner and face of the franchise.
Every single one of these players are over paid! It’s why I don’t support any major leagues at all. Three million dollars a year should be plenty for anyone!
who freaking cares? the money is coming out of ownerships pocket, not yours. i say let them get paid. they work harder than some suit and his 50m/yr "performance bonus"
@@Cheapshot420420I guess you never buy tickets to games. Ignorance is amazing in this one!
Even Gretzky got traded, it is business with a stupid Cap that they have to manage.
if there is no cap it ends up like european soccer when only the team led by the richest people can buy all the best players and win almost every season
@@Alexis_R21 , Bettman wants a lot of US exposure, therefore he has saturated the league with teams that cannot support themselves without the finically successful teams chipping in to keep them above water , I say 6 less teams would make the NHL better
If she don’t wanna hawk tuah I don’t wanna talk to her.
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When a team does it it's awful and when a player does it he only gets praise. Hockey is a business not only for players but for everyone.
I still got that sticker son
Ps this is the 2nd time tampa just dumped the face of the franchise. So looks like im a 1 year nashiville fan jst like inwas a 1 year philly fan. Stammer has proven so much there tbis on3 actually stinks
Brisball has to go.He needs to be released stamcoast outscored.Gunsel, that's a terrible move
Are you 12 or just an asshole?
The team owns a player it's their choice
That’s the business.
The 8x3 was offered as far as we know, he just wanted more AAV. I can't blame him, but at the same time this is a business. Stamkos' totals from the year paint a picture of him that isn't necessarily accurate either, given how poor his 5v5 play was for most of the year. It would've been prudent for the front office to reach out to him and let him know they were interested in keeping him, but only if the dollars made sense. As things stand it seems like Brisebois was ready to move on before the year had even started.
I just got the sense that Tampa never truly valued him which sucks. I remember in 2016 that Tampa's offer which Stamkos would eventually sign was significantly lower than other teams. Yzerman basically said to Stamkos that if he loved being a Lightning, he will have to accept the contract even if it was less than his market value which he accepted because he truly did love being a Lightning. I don't blame him for wanting to get fair value for once in his career considering other teammates got fair market value for their extensions.
Why would you sign a 34 year old to a 8 year contract? Who the hell plays until their 40 now a days. LOL.
why didn't he say that then rather than offer a slap in the face 8 year $3 million deal knowing that he wont take it cause 8 years is too long and $3 million is too low of a salary? Either make more of an effort by throwing more ideas for a salary and term out or simply say we are going in a different direction
They paid him million and million, poor little hockey player... he's(like all others) just a mercenary, he won't cry for his next 24 million.
So sad
Dumb take, they made him millions and provided a team to win the cup. That's not disgusting. Back to reality plz.
Nah this ain't it, we can tell you've never played organized sports
@CosmicRx7 You make no sense, of course I have and if you think your organization cares about you then I wish you all the best.
KUCHEROV FOR “C”❤
Theres no loyalty from players to their teams, or from teams to their players...Its about money, imo
good ol hawk tua!
Who cares chit happens
stamkos is no ordinary player
Hawk Tuah
IYKYK
Its a business dude , this is no worse than no trade clauses that give players complete control. He got paid very very well for playing in Tampa. I hope the Leafs do the same with Tavares.
its part of being a player they know this is part of the business
I thought that as well, but the 8x4 is a crazy contract. He's probably got 2 good seasons left where the 8 mil looks reasonable. Even Alex the great at 38 this season looked slow and out of his league. His production 5v5 has already fallen off a cliff, he's made up points by becoming a PP specialist but that won't work as well in Nashville. He's probably a 50-60pt guy in the 3rd year, 40-50 in the 4th . A million or two extra a year for the good feels is one thing, but Stamkos basically is getting twice his likely value over the contract.
Time will tell of course but he could also be productive all 4 of those years to, with today’s advances in physical conditioning and nutrition, much more possible than ever before. It’s a risk, but one Nashville was willing to take, and I’m definitely wearing a new Predator Stamkos sweater to my first game!
He got paid.
Its part of the business
The players get obscene amount of money to play
Get treated like royalty
Get into bidding wars with other teams when contracts are up
And yes. One day it all comes to an end
Stamkos is playing his last few yrs
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Lol. Are we supposed to be sad when a multi million dollar athlete's career starts to wind down ? I'll save my tears for the guy on my street who gets laid off at the warehouse
They paid him
They don’t owe Stamkos anything. They must have seen decline in his game and knew it would be bad business if they resigned him. And what you call sacrifices most ppl call injury prone. Also if he didn’t take less he wouldn’t have all those cups, stop being so soft and worrying about the millionaire who just got paid 32 million to play a game the next 4 years somewhere else.