What happens after the tentative offer? Pre-employment Requirements Examples
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
- This video explains what happens after you receive a tentative offer for your federal government job. After the TJO, you will have the opportunity to negotiate and complete pre-employment requirements. Once complete you receive your firm job offer. Watch the whole video to learn what to expect after the TJO.
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You did an excellent job explaining the process between the tentative and the final offer. I just subscribed. Thank you!!!
Thank you!!
Good video and I appreciate it.
Thank you!!
Excellent information!!!! Just got my TJO, had no clue as what to do next. This video is 100% pure gold!
That's awesome! Congratulations! Really appreciate the feedback
Great 👍 ❤
@@Epicrider24 thank you!
Your videos are necessary
Thank you!!
Thank you for these videos! So informative, but I sure wish I'd known about them sooner. I submitted my application for an entry level admin position (not sensitive, low risk) in early April for the Office of the Chief Counsel, have gone through the process and received and accepted a formal offer last week. Subsequently, I gave my notice but this blurb in my formal offer letter REALLY gives me pause. "Your retention in the position described above is conditional based upon favorable background investigation. The investigation will address the employment suitability factors such as personal character, financial conflict of interest, the compliance with Federal Income Tax requirements. With respect to the latter, please note that your three most recent Federal Income Tax returns may be subject to audit. If the results of the investigation are unfavorable, it may be necessary to remove you from this position." My sponsor advised that my pre-employment requirements were satisfied, including fingerprints, and my tax check was done. What on earth is next and what are they looking for that I could now be terminated? Thank you!
It looks like they are starting you before everything is completed with your background which is common. It's just a blanket statement that says if somehow you fail the background check then you'd be terminated.
Casey,
This is exactly what is happening now with me.
Nice! Congratulations on the tentative offer!
I know received my Official Job offer yesterday.
@@geraldwilson1504 that's awesome! Congratulations!!
Thanks I received a TJO will need a template for salary negotiations.
Send me an email.
Negotiate salary or student loans?
Amazing videos - thank you! so much. I just got scheduled for the drug screening before I even complete the EQIP, is that normal? and does that mean that my background check has begun? Thanks for your answering.
You're welcome! All requirements can be scheduled at the same time. There isn't any connection between drug test and background check.
Very thorough, informative videos - thank you! I wish I would have known about these at the start of my hiring process. I relocated after receiving my TJO w/o knowing that the onboarding process would be this long. Any tips in the book for getting help with relocation expenses before/after receiving your FJO?
For relocation expenses or incentives it would have had to be in the announcement as an option. If it was it may not be too late, just might delay your start date while they approve everything. Just have to ask HR real fast.
Thank you - I really appreciate you taking the time out to answer. Looking forward to more videos!
@@TammiSparks you're welcome!
@@federalhiringadvice1385 I actually have another question, if that’s OK - my ‘Complete New Hire Questionnaire’ was updated ‘Benefits Information.’ I am being asked for the name of my new FEHB plan and for the enrollment code. Should I contact HR, or will they provide this information for me at a later date via email?
@@TammiSparks you'll actually go over benefits and sign up for them in orientation. Shouldn't have to complete those forms now.
Hello. Thank you for all the amazing content that you share.
Question: I have done all of my TJO 3-day paperwork requirements, including the Cyber Security Training, but my certificate for some reason did not save. Would I need to repeat the security training again, or is there something HR can do to retrieve it and/or, can they see that I have already completed it? Due to this, I am unable to "save, date, and upload" it. Please help, it is due tomorrow. Thank you!
You're welcome! If it's a TMS training you can go to your learning history to pull your certificate. If that doesn't work let HR know tomorrow. They won't automatically rescind your offer just for being a day late.
I am in the process of pre-employment stuff right now for an upcoming job I recently accepted a tentative job offer for. HR had me do another E-QIP though i'm already in the system, i'm doing basically a similar job I do now, however, I am changing from a Wage Grade position, to a GS position, and I"ll be moving to another state/base once I receive the Firm job offer with a start date for the upcoming job.
Congratulations on the TJO! If you're an internal employee staying in the same agency you shouldn't be redoing eqip. Unless your original investigation never got completed.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 Thank you, and I am going to be with the same agency just a different position and I'll be moving to a different state, I've been in the system for 4 years, I had hit my 4 year mark at my current job this past Sunday the 13th of November. I think the reason I had to do another E-QIP because It was confirmed from HR when they called me the other day to clarify something on some paperwork, the new position I will be starting, is going to require me to get a secret security clearance or something, that is my guess why I had to do it again and or update it etc.
@@ChrisLyon567 you're welcome! That makes sense then. If you need a higher clearance then you would do eqip again. Cool part is it should have saved everything from before.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 fortunately the E-QIP did save what I had done before, I just had to make some small updates and tweaks to it. Nothing too crazy.
First, thank you so much for the informative video. Just a question, I have an injury (and stiches) on one of my fingers, do you know if I'd fail my fingerprint? Thanks
You're welcome! No that wouldn't cause you to fail your fingerprints. They capture all your fingers through different poses so it'll be fine.
@@federalhiringadvice1385👍Thank you!
@@VHoang-py6om you're welcome!
The HR specialist said I don’t need to submit another SF-86. I already completed one.
That's awesome!
Thanks for the video. Recently i accepted TJO. I was told a week later that they are pending security check from HR via email but I have not submitted SF86, etc. Do you know what that is?
You're welcome! I'm not sure specifically in your case. Pending security check would normally mean 306, fingerprints, and eqip.
I have never had a GS job, and when I was applying, I threw a bunch of darts to see what would stick. During this process, I accepted a TJO for a GS9. Later I got invited to participate in an interview for a GS13 position. Prior to the interview for the GS13, I accepted the FJO for the GS9. I really want the GS13 job. What are my options here? What happens if I start the GS9 position and I get the TJO for the GS13?
So you can ask to delay your start date on the GS-9 position to buy some time. I would never recommend declining a job without having a backup. You could still start with the 9 and if you get a TJO for the 13 just transfer to it because you applied as an external candidate.
Hell and thanks for the informative video. I have received and accepted a TJO, I have completed fingerprints, submitted the background investigation, and my current employer received a letter from the DOD yesterday to confirm my employment with a few other questions. I have been told by the HR Specialist that they are waiting on a "waiver" to come through and she see's movement in the system and that she should get it any time. They have already told me they would like for me to start this month on the 29th, but they can't confirm anything until this waiver comes through. What exactly is a waiver? The way she explained it is, it's to go ahead and allow me to start before the entire background investigation is complete because she said in some cases it can take up to a year. I guess I'm confused because what if someones background comes back with negative things and they have already started working? Personally, I do not have anything to worry about, but I'm just thinking in general. Do they only do this in certain circumstances? Thanks
Sorry, that was supposed to be "hello"!
I'm not familiar with needing a waiver for pending suitability. Generally it wouldn't even be an option if there was a suspicion the person may not pass. If someone did start pending and there were major issues they would be terminated.
How did it turn out?
How about reinstate? Do I need to do background check and drug test and fingerprint again? I have a year gap after my last fed job.
You'll have to do fingerprints for sure. Drug test and physical also if the position requires it. Eqip may still be good but that will be up to HR.
I've received a TJO for a position that lists both PCS *and* a relocation incentive. The job announcement states, "Permanent Change of Station (PCS) allowances may be authorized, subject to the provisions of the Joint Travel Regulations and an agency determination that a PCS move is in the Government Interest," and "Relocation Incentive may be authorized if in the best interest of the government." These are two separate things, correct? And if so, do I need to have the PCS authorized?
Yes, these are 2 separate things but you could get both. Just have to let your HR POC know you are interested in them and they should help you through the process.
Recently recieved my TJO for a GS-11 position. Will I be able to negotiate my Step # using my combined military retirement pension and VA disability? Recently retired 21 yr vet here. Thank you for any advice.
You can always try. Don't think you'll be able to use those incomes to negotiate though because you get to keep drawing both while working full time.
This was a very informative video. Thank you. Just wondering, do agencies offer tentative/conditional job offers only via phone or through emails too? Just wondering. Thanks.
Thank you! It should be through email with an acceptance link. Ideally they will call first though.
After completing Equip, do they reach out to your current employer? I would like to prepare for any awkward conversations in future.
Also, the position I have been selected for does not require a security clearance and shows non sensitive/low risk? Does this potentially make the process move a tiny bit faster? Thank you so much for your videos!
Yep! After eqip is submitted they will start sending out those bubble sheets. Low risk is the basic investigation. It's still a process but they don't dig as deep as the higher level clearances.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 what exactly do they send out and how far back to they go? I have a former employer that no longer exists, which i noted on equip
@@jyllyndsey it's just everything you put in eqip. They take that and send to your previous employers to verify what you entered.
Hello, I have been waiting almost a month after TJO, I did background check fingerprints and labs is more then 30 days normal to wait for permanent offer?
My mortgage was late in the past now on my credit report. Will this effect my background check? FYI this is not for any security clearance. Just fed govt
Just have to disclose it and see. If it's current it shouldn't be a deal breaker.
Thank you so much for all the informational videos. I received my TJO today, I will accept it. Should I do negotiations later? The offered salary is around 2% higher than my current salary which is ok, but my current employer also contributes 8% of my salary to my retirement account. Federal government only contributes 1% from what I read. What will be the best approach for negotiation?
You're welcome! You can try to negotiate anytime after you accept the TJO. They only contribute 1% automatically but match up to 5% on TSP. You also have a pension and social security contributions. You can start just by asking your HR POC. If you don't know what to say I have a template that could help. Just email me for it.
Thank you so much, sending you email now.
@@saritabswar5965 you're welcome!
@@federalhiringadvice1385 email sent.
@@saritabswar5965 sounds good!
I was asked this question on the TJO onboarding link. “Are you delinquent on any Federal debt? (Includes delinquencies arising from Federal taxes, loans, over-payment of benefits, and other debts to the U.S. Government, plus defaults of Federally guaranteed or insured loans such as student or home mortgage loans.)” I have 2 federal student loans in default, I owe social security and the federal income tax. Will I get disqualified due to having so much debt?
It's possible. If you have repayment plans for them you could be ok.
@@federalhiringadvice1385what if you didn’t file taxes past 2-3 years or something went wrong with tax filing? Do you get disqualified?
@@4dosti you won't automatically be disqualified but you will have to explain and then work to make it right.
I received a tjo last Tuesday but thru Direct Hire. Is the tjo/fjo process the same?
It will be the same. Direct hire just helps get selections quicker.
What does a quality review from SROC consist of after a favorable background check? How long does this step typically take?
That's a new one on me. Unless it's just a review of the overall onboarding tasks to give a firm offer.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 Maybe! I’ve asked everyone I could think of but this one has them stumped 🤣! Hopefully an FJO comes soon!
@@jakial5082 haha fingers crossed!
Who does your performance review so that you are able to get your step increase?
Your supervisor
Okay quick question, I’m trying to go back to the questionnaire and edit my B date but it is locked and won’t let me edit. What should I do?
Once you complete the questionnaire it locks down. You HR POC will have to unlock and return it to you.
can agencies use any or all background, physical, fingerprint if you are going for several jobs. So if I did a physical with the VA, it can be used for HHS? Can they see each other's backgrounds, physicals and fingerprints?
They can typically use the background investigation across agencies but the physical would be position specific.
4 months later still waiting on background heck Smdh ready to give up on this
Hate to hear that
Hi Kasey, so the government sends out letters to your past or current employers or both? The reason that I am asking is that the document I received it states to not terminate your employment. What if I don't want my current employer to know that I am looking for a new position?
It is both. You'll have to put your current employer on your eqip. You may have to give them a heads up. Did they do your reference check before the TJO?
@@federalhiringadvice1385 They did not send out a reference check that I know of , not even to the people I listed as a reference. I received the tentative selection email and I accepted it.
@@ms.kalico4489 That's interesting! I don't know how to advise on the background check reference. If you don't give your employee a heads up they will be surprised when they get the check form in.
Hey looking to tranfer to another federal agency.was askes for references before the interis that a good sign.
That is a good sign! Usually references are checked on candidates they are interested in.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 thanks...hope it a great sign this will be a promotion within the federal government.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 the job that I see says gs 6 with promotion potential 6. What does that mean
Hi, I accepted the TJO. I did all my pre-employment requirements, and also HR notified me with a clearance. So I requested HR for a higher step in GS pay. Was it a good idea to ask for a higher step after completing the pre-employment requirements? This is my first job position at the VA just to let you know. Thank you!!!
You can make the request anytime but because it can take time for approval there is a chance for it to delay your start date. There's no risk of losing an offer just for asking about higher steps.
How does gs step works. Do step increase automatically come on pay check after 1 year probationary period.
Steps automatically increase after a certain time if you have a fully successful performance rating. Steps 2-4 are 1 year wait. Steps 4-7 are 2 year wait. Step 7-10 are 3 year wait.
What if I have been a stay at home mom the past 5 years. Do I click unemployment of the form? I haven't received unemployment . I've just been home with our children. And it says to list someone who knew you were unemployed my spouse and my parents basically are the only people who know that that I know 🤷🏻♀️ this whole process has been extremely confusing
Yes ma'am! You can't have any gaps so you would need to put unemployed. The reference can be anyone. So friends or neighbors if you can think of someone.
I received a TJO for a TSO position. Will they contact my previous employers using the email/number I listed on the form, or do they send out a mail to the company?
It'll probably be through mail based on the address you list on your eqip or eapp.
Is a TJO the same as the interviewer forwarding your resume and interview results to HR/OPM? And how long is the process following a successful interview result?
A TJO is an actual offer from HR. Until you get an offer letter it's not a TJO. An offer should be made within a few days after all interviews are completed.
I received a tenative offer pending a drug test and a background investigatoon. It's been 5 weeks and i still haven"t heard back. I'm currently already a federal employee. Should i call them? I don't want to bother them, lol.
It wouldn't hurt to call. If nothing else it could remind them to check on the missing pieces.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 thank you, i did my 3 day onboarding stuff and my drug test, but i found it weird i haven't received an eqip yet.
@@sammydog86 you're welcome! If you are already a federal employee you may not get eqip. If it's the same level of investigation they will just verify and clear that part.
If you self-assess as unqualified for a GS-level, for example GS-7, but meet the minimum qualification for a level below (i.e. GS-6); and then find a more recent posting for the same position within the same agency, but at a different location, whose minimum qualification for the higher level is the same as the minimum for the lower level under the job you applied for; is that a strong argument to start the job you're being offerer at the higher grade level?
If you rate yourself ineligible for a grade you can't be offered that grade on that announcement. You also can't use another announcement as leverage because they are all independent.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 Good to know, thanks!
I did my eqip and put my 2 previous employers from the last 5 years but I don’t even know if one of the employers even exists at that company anymore. What if for some reason the employers don’t respond or something gets lost in translation? The position is low risk.
The employer not responding should not have a negative impact on your investigation. Especially for a low risk position.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 I’m going on 3 weeks since doing my eQIP. How long does this typically take? It’s a low risk position, but this whole process is incredibly long.
@@mariaabdullahi3555 for the background investigation to be completely finished it takes months. If there doesn't look like there are any issues some agencies will let you start before it's finished. If it's been a while you'll want to contact HR to see what's needed before FJO.
Can I have accept two tentative offers at the same time and do two onboarding processes via USA staffing?
You can! Then can withdraw from the one you don't end up wanting.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 my anxiety talking. Just to be clear. So it want mess me up at all with both jobs that gave me TJOs?
Curious which job did you take & how's it going @@chestman1776
Hello,
I received a TJO with the VA and I accepted the job offer, also sent them the requested documents to the HR representative. It has been almost 2 weeks/7 business days and I have not heard anything from them. Should I follow up with the HR representative to ask for a status on the final offer? I am worried because I got a previous government job rescinded from me when I was negotiating the start date.
How long does it usually take for a final offer letter email?
You should follow up with them. There will be pre-employment requirements to complete before final offer.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 i followed up today asked for a tentative start date. I have not heard anything for pre employment processes for fingerprint.
Could it be a reason for them to rescind the offer because I asked to negotiate the GS level?
@@federalhiringadvice1385 how long should i wait to follow up if the HR representative doesn’t reply?
@@federalhiringadvice1385 I have completed the fingerprint portion and it has been two weeks. They said they are completing background check but still have not received a final offer from the originally tentative offer which was 5 weeks ago.
Also is it automatic for the agency to match my current GS level or at least to match the salary i am making now at a higher step??
If you requested to be contacted, those that affect your acceptance chance?
No, that is one of the options on the TJO/FJO. HR should contact you if you make that selection.
What do we do when HR just never replies? Seems to be the most common scenario.
They should be responding after a TJO. Their job is to get applicants through the onboarding process.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 Unfortunately, they don't seem to for most people. There are tons of similar stories on Reddit. In my case, I have to go through my hiring manager who is constantly messaging them even though I think he isn't supposed to.
I have received TJO and all the paperwork. I received an email that said my LQA was submitted. How long before i receice FJO?
It'll depend on what requirements you have to complete.
I received at TJO last month. I have completed all pre-requirements. They ask me about onboarding date of Oct 11th. I said yes. I have yet to get the firm offer. When should I expect the firm offer if they said my onboarding is the 11th?
Should be anytime. May want to follow-up with them on it. Generally the letter is same day or next day after the verbal FJO.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 it has been 10 days now. HR said the offer may not come immediately but the on boarding date is the 11th. It will not change. Should I expect the FJO next week? Thank you for all your help
@@tyrasinclair9570 that's a little strange. You won't report on duty without a firm offer letter so the 11th may change.
Are gs step increases guaranteed or depends on your agency?
They are automatic as long as your performance is fully successful or better.
Received my tjo on the 14th of June completed all the tasks except background check( waiting on nbis emails) what’s the normal turnaround?
Depending on the position it could take 2-6 weeks or longer to complete all the requirements.
Is there any way to reach out to you directly for a question?
I do one on one consultations. Www.federalhiringadvice.com/consultation
Can you negotiate salary if position is "inside a bargaining unit positon"?
You can only request negotiation if it is your first appointment or you've had an extended break in service. Doesn't matter if the position is bargaining or not.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 Yes its first appointment.
@@mrwoody45 should be good to try then.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 Thanks!
@@mrwoody45 you're welcome!
If I accept multiple TJOs will I have to do physicals, background checks, etc for each position? They’re both at the same location just different departments.
If they are the same job then probably won't have to do physical or anything twice. If they are different or have different requirements then you would.
What does gs 6 with potential promotion 6 mean thanks
It just means 6 is the highest grade of the position.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 hey again, when transferring agencies will annual leave, sick leave and insurance tranfer as well.
I was asked to resubmit my OF306. how do I upload it to my eqip?
You can't upload it, you'll have to send to HR for them to upload.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 someone keeps emailing me telling me to upload it and I don't see where to upload it. She not asking me to sign it and send it to her. She asking me to attach it as a PDF to my eqip
@@angelaeasley7189 maybe if they have returned your eqip you can attach it at the end. Otherwise you should be able to upload to your onboarding profile.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 they reset my eqip (new request) and asked me to attach my OF304. I Can't get in contact with anyone and today the last day to submit it 😕
@@angelaeasley7189 it's possible to pass up the due date as long as you are communicating with them. You don't automatically lose your offer. Mondays and Fridays are common days for people to be out because of compressed schedules so I wouldn't be too worried.
Does this apply to seasonal hiring?
Yes, even temporary appointments have the same requirements.
How long will credentialing take?
That all depends on a couple factors. How long it takes for you to complete Vetpro, how fast the credentialing department contacts your references and verifies your credentials, and how fast it takes for your references to respond. On average usually 1-2 months.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 thanks. This seems to be the longest process for me. Everything else is complete.
@@ceuser3555 its one of the longest processes in onboarding.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 I see, that is good to know.
Can they legally change your tentative offer without your knowledge?
The tentative offer is just tentative so everything can be updated. It's the firm offer that is final.
Thank you
@@charelleberry7798 you're welcome!
That's my question as well. After submitting all the documents usastaffing, is it possible they can still cancel this job because I heard that, even after accepting tentative offer and uploading documents, they can still cancel that job position to which I applied for. Is that true?
Can the VA find out if I was terminated from previous jobs?
It could come out in your reference checks and also your background investigation.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 I thought previous employers only provide dates of employment. How does the federal obtain these details. The position I applied for is Scheduler. (GS-6)
@@ehmbee1412 the information sheet sent out asks if there was discipline or if you are eligible for rehire.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 does the VA get my reason for termination from the unemployment agency? How do they find out if I’ve ever been fired. (Im sorry for asking again. I didnt inderstand your last response.)
@@ehmbee1412 during your background investigation they send your listed employers an information page to fill out and return. That's where your employer could say if you were terminated or if you are eligible to be rehired.
So you can negiotate a salary with the government? I thought that was a no no
You can try on your initial appointment. It requires approval for anything above the step 1.
Does tentative offers include locality pay?
@@gilmamartinez8313 you have to check the locality chart which translates to the fee in your area based on your grade
Sucks they make you get the jab. How do I upload something stating I will get vaxxed? During the onboarding. They say they want documentation, but I'm not vaccinated. What should I upload to suffice this requirement?
You'll work with your POC on the vaccination requirements. You'll either have to get vaccinated before the FJO or request an exemption.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 Ok TY! I'll be honest 've gone 3 plus years and have not gotten COVID....I really never planned on getting the vaxx....or if I did it was way further down the line. Bummer.
@@keanuwick8485 I can understand that! The restrictions have been getting lighter so the exemption could be a good option depending on your position. Can be based on religious or medical reasons.
@@federalhiringadvice1385 Actually HR just emailed me and said vaxx requirements were lifted...she said the powers that be are just late to the game changing the verbiage and removing it from the onboarding process.