I totally agree the in-person interaction allows for sharing ideas and perspectives. Furthermore, in-person experience allows for building a connection with peers and a network to support your career development as well.
I agree but I am finding I get more interaction in Zoom than sitting in a noisy lecture hall and only the professor talking. I feel like both options have plus and minuses.
I love the honesty ❤ I had to get with it but in reverse. I took all my nursing prerequisites on line and was in for a full shock when I had to go back into the classroom 😂 Perspective is everything.
I feel like human interaction within the school is very important. The most durable friendships I’ve made are with people I met in school… When embarking on a new journey finding your peeps who are going the same way helps you to be grounded..
Glad I found your channel. I enjoy your videos and perspectives on the profession. I totally know what you mean, I felt this way about in person courses my entire life. Going to a campus was so dreadful for me and this is how I felt in college. So imagine the depression k-12 caused me during childhood but couldn’t escape it because it was the way things were done.
I love listening to you. I wish I had found you a few years back. I have stopped working. You are what these new nurses need. You appear to care about what you are doing and you keep it real . Maybe there is still help for nursing.
I love virtual learning. Theoretically its teaching yourself & Id rather that🤷🏽♀️….😂 just make sure its not only regionally accredited but Nationally…!
You got this! And thanks for the transparency! It’s comforting to know that there’s others with their own strengths and weaknesses, especially while I’m a student nurse. 🙏🙏
I feel the same as you. Online learning isn't for me. I can do virtual learning where we meet on zoom and there is a meeting happening. Strictly online learning feels as though you yourself is teaching yourself. That just doesn't sit right with me. Props to those that can do that but it isn't for everyone. p.s. I love your RUclips content.
Hey Viktor! Education is so much more than a curriculum that’s placed online. The classroom setting allows for true interaction and networking. I appreciate your support ❤️
The system is working against your talent. Reformation of healthcare is needed today. You are so articulate and speak to the relevance of healthcare. Please stay strong and share! I really enjoy your videos and believe that your videos should be part of policy.
They don’t teach in NP school at all!!! I got overwhelmed by the online stuff too and if I asked a professor I was told to look it up. There were no lectures. Just pressure to have stuff in on time
Good video. Education requires an honest self-assessment of one's assets and liabilities. I've completed graduate programs in brick & mortar (BM) and online. I graduated with very high GPAs in both. I enjoyed the BM experience more but found online to be more challenging. Each of us have to discover the best goodness‐of-fit.
I was apprehensive about online NP school as well but decided to try. I went to Frontier and it was a good experience. Out of all my classes, I only had one instructor who didn’t teach, didn’t hold online live classes. I had to hustle to find clinicals for Midwifery but they had connections for the FNP program. All the best.
You are not alone... While I was in IT for 30 years prior to becoming a nurse, I found on-line learning much harder than on-site. I appreciate your honesty and direct nature that takes into account compassion and empathy.
@@dominiqueharris7823 I was top of the field in a very niche area of e-commerce security on Linux. It was a very competitive area on an international level where consumers were often looking for the least expensive price it would not take into account wisdom. I still remember a case of a California customer reporting that they had an IBM consultant that they were paying $1000 a day and after two weeks but still not resolved the problem. While I was on the phone with them I had them run a few commands based on what they were Sharing what was the nature of the problem. I was able to fix their problem in 15 minutes give or take and the company for whom I worked only charged $100 an hour with a minimum of one hour. So here this company that paid roughly $10,000 over two weeks to not get the problem fixed it all wanted to fight $100 bill change that they should've been only charged in Quarter hour increments. They were not grateful that the problem was solved and they were not interested it was solved in 15 minutes versus two weeks. It was nitpicking like that and my wife asking if I could see myself doing that over the next several years and it made me question the area that I was in. So after a battery vocational casting that included a personality test I never heard of, the Myers Briggs personality test, they recommended anything in healthcare, anything in public education or anything in counseling. Change the time we were trying to encourage our daughter to go in the healthcare and I feel that it's best to lead by example I was determined to become a registered nurse because the register nurse teaches, councils And is in healthcare. That was the start of my journey at the age of 50. It's no a little over nine years later and I have not looked back cents. It was among the best decisions that I ever made in my life and I am so glad God called me to become a hospice nurse.
God bless and with all do respect. Read your story was a pleasure. Right know I'm in a debate and/or career change. I'm applying to a CNA program to follow became a LPN. Your story was God's answer to prayers. I'm 46 and i thought it's to late for me.
It’s such an injustice to have online schools taking money and not actually helping students succeed- degree mills. The accrediting boards also need to be held accountable. Plus u get zero networking skills. The teachers aren’t teaching-the tests are 3rd party & papers graded by another 3rd party. Sadly, these models are not producing competent clinicians. If Med school was online-nope. Hybrid ok but these schools also do not allow any academic freedom and under pay faculty.
It really is a shame and never made sense to me. I value education and think that the online only format is a disservice to clinicians and the public. Let’s not talk about the finding your own clinical site, a huge disaster. This new school seems promising, it’s a state university.
I agree with you. I searched hard for a school that found my sites for me. I do mostly online but the instructors do optional live zooms that we can attend if we want.
Guess what? Even that school to which you referred to as a factory, you still have to post 2 peer discussions along with two journal articles for each postings. That's just the way NP schools operates. Simmons may assist you in finding preceptors. It's challenging to complete the clinical rotations if you have to work more than two days out of the week.
discussion boards are stupid. students just post coz it's required. there is no thought provoking discussions when students just post coz it's just required. some put no effort at all and therefore there is no learning taking place. I dropped coz there was no hands on when it came to health assessment class. I don't mind online school but I prefer the program to be a hybrid program. and also I need someone to secure preceptors for me coz it's a headache trying to find one on your own.
That for profit school gave me what I needed. School is what you make it and making sure you are prepared to take care of your pt safely. passed my cert exam got a job out school. Currently at a "better school" for my DNP online....all the same.
The discussion boards are the worst. I have to have in person classes as well. And the school I went to for my NP, I didn't make it past the first semester. I have to have interaction. I refuse to pay 10x more than in state to have to teach myself. That's literally what I pay you for!!! They had no virtual lectures at all. I couldn't deal.
Absolutely! It was mind boggling to me as well. Do people actually learn like this? Education is so much more than a curriculum that you throw online as a self guide/self study. I completely get you.
This is a major reason why MDs ridicule NP schools Our training needs to be more intense and physical. Provider role shouldn't ever be an online school. I love NP but our training needs to be better regulated
I am in such COMPLETE agreement about on-line school. I am very glad for those who can do on-line programs but I am someone who needs in-person programs.
Kendra, after I did my topic for the discussion in that school 😂 and researched at least three papers-within the last three years and considered scholar like papers with numerous authentic sources in the bibliography. The students would wait until the ninth hour before they would respond to your posts and then they would use your papers that you took the time to read to respond in the personal discussions. So basically I did all the work and they just use my own papers to answer me. I did make friends on the discussion boards because you can tell by the way someone writes that they would be receptive if you had a question and you could actually send messages directly to them in the school portal without anyone else seeing it. I even had a friend in Guyana who I was helping her with a computerized math assignment at 3 AM in the morning using my iPhone and my iPad so she could look at how I work things out. Unfortunately I had to drop the course and that was a MPH. That would’ve been very useful in this Medical climate that we are in now.
Everyone is unique and that includes their style/way of learning! EDIT: The interaction and support of a classroom with their peers is invaluable as it adds valuable learning experiences and support! Not everything can be learned in books imho!
I have never passed an online class, no matter how easy. My thoughts are that I will never take another class online. I don’t know if it’s my ADHD. But this is a horrible learning method for me! If I can not show up, I do not want take the course. It’s a complete waste of my time and money.
When people have online courses, they just do the bare minimum, which isn't a lot because the point of it being online is for it to be flexible, so there's always a bunch of resources that people who aren't serious about learning never even glance at. In my online classes, I always just pick random people to respond to and never read anything anyone else says. In an actual, in-person discussion, even if you weren't participating, you're still exposed to hearing the other people talk about whatever the discussion is. You get to see if anyone makes a really uncomfortable face/has uncomfortable body language in reaction to someone saying something, etc. It's less flexible, but I definitely think the benefits outweigh the downsides because there is the comradery and healthy competition that comes with a community, especially one geared towards learning difficult, important material
I made it 4 weeks and quit cuz it was writing discussion posts every single day mon-fri. Plus 2 big research papers. And this was part time. 1 class at a time and I went per diem at work. It was still too much!!! And the instructions with due dates were often contradictory to the class calendar. And yes, the stress about finding my own preceptors was over the top.
Lol Oh yes!! That school called me for about two years straight before giving up! It just seemed like for me, I could waste a lot of time/money if I wasn’t reallly on it.
Kendra don't beat yourself up about the school you choose pray about it and let god choose the school for you don't quit it just not you time. Do your homework first before you attempt to enroll.
I love online classes. However I think the approach on teaching varies depending on the school. The online classes that i had for nursing school includes recorded lectures that the professor made themselves. It was very good cause I can go back and forth with the lectures plus they provide other studying materials that supports the lectures. They are also very good on answering emails for other additional questions.
That's why I don't want to do my MSN. I tried and dropped. All of the programs are online. I can't do online learning. My RN to BSN program was hybrid at the time. Which was doable although I had to find my own clinical site for the last semester and do a community health project.
All the more reason why I am planning to apply to PA school instead. I also work better when everything is in person and can get a lot of hands on practice.
@@KendraRN No. I’m already enrolled in the community college near my apartment here in El Paso TX. I’m just BARELY starting my nursing journey. At the moment I’m CNA, but do homecare. It’s a NIGHTMARE here. In LA, I was making GREAT money! Here , it’s a dead end job with no future. At least in LA, I had clients that could utilize my personal shopper/ stylist skillz . Not HERE😂 No Bergdorf’s sadly. I’m applying the LVN & RN program, but for now.. I’m taking my core classes this summer. I start next month. One English class online, then math in the fall. I’m taking an online class because the “in person” is MAD far and being the consummate New Yorker.. I don’t drive. (Yet) Just passed my written test 😂
Thanks for the perspective. Are you still in school? I'm prepping myself to enter a MSN program for midwifery. Most programs are completely online now. My bet friend now a PsyNP, struggled finding preceptor during her time in school as well. She was very stressed.
For a while I thought I was just incapable of competing the programs. My self esteem took a hit but then I had to be honest with myself. Online learning isn’t for me. I hope to have a MBA one day. You’re awesome.
@@KendraRN NO, you are not alone. You echo my exact sentiments. I’m trying to hard to finish this BSN(online) only 7 classes but much like you I’ve attempted 3 times!!! And I agree with everything you said, I have to be in the classroom which is why I excelled in my ADN program.Another thing is… I’m a traveler now and I just honestly don’t see the benefit so it’s hard. I’m soo glad you make these videos!!!
@@MrGQRN Don't give up. I'm a traveler and am finishing up my BSN now. I'm going 2 do the MSN n Education online as well. The goal is 2 save, so I don't have 2 work as much. I can do some school, take a break, then work again.
@@MrGQRN Anytime! 💪🏿 Sometimes we have 2 do what is inconvenient & unconventional 2 get 2 the next level. Healthcare is changing. Nursing is not exempt. It will strengthen u when big unexpected changes arise. There will not b comfort n everything that we do. That's what creates warriors. God will give u everything u need 2 b successful. Ur dedication will grant u favor.
I'll say this much. I've preceptor about 5 NP students at this point, and let me tell you, ya'll need to rise up and get your schools to act right. Without fail, EVERY student I have preceptor had to jump through hoops to find a site. As a med student, part of my school fee included all placements and rotations. Can you imagine paying all that money for medical school, then having to hustle to find where you're going to do your Paediatric or Surgery rotation? Many of these NP students, after getting into these schools, are left on their own to find where they can get this hands on training. They find preceptors by word of mouth. The school should at least keep a list of potential preceptors, and contact them on the student's behalf. And then add to that, they send the student, with NO curriculum. What am I supposed to do with you when you're here? I end up doing the same things I would with a medical student, but they still end up getting the short end of the stick, because the med student comes from an institution that has a contract with the hospital, so they can get access to the EMR, see a patient with supervision etc. The NP student doesn't have that, so they end up just shadowing for the most part. And how you're allowed to do while you shadow will be highly preceptor dependent. I happen to like to teach, so I'll allow them to do more than most, but some really are done a disservice in my opinion. And these students are paying THOUSANDS of dollars to these schools. I think it's unconscionable.
Thank you for your honest experience. I personally will not enroll in any NP program that does not include a Preceptor. The fact that many programs do not is outrageous to me. How does the school know if you are covering the learning that you need to complete in order to be qualified to practice once you do graduate? The answer is that they don’t and that is outrageous to me!!
@@KendraRN thank you Kendra . You are such an inspiration. I am all the way down in Africa zambia . Just passed my US RN and finding your voice content super helpful
I totally agree the in-person interaction allows for sharing ideas and perspectives. Furthermore, in-person experience allows for building a connection with peers and a network to support your career development as well.
The networking that occurs in the classroom is priceless. A discussion board cannot replace human interaction. Thanks for chiming in Will ❤️
I agree but I am finding I get more interaction in Zoom than sitting in a noisy lecture hall and only the professor talking. I feel like both options have plus and minuses.
You can do this . I just found you and i’m rooting for you hardcore. We need you, sis.
💯
I love the honesty ❤ I had to get with it but in reverse. I took all my nursing prerequisites on line and was in for a full shock when I had to go back into the classroom 😂 Perspective is everything.
I feel like human interaction within the school is very important. The most durable friendships I’ve made are with people I met in school… When embarking on a new journey finding your peeps who are going the same way helps you to be grounded..
Exactly! Online learning never felt right to me. Education involves so much more.
You are one of a kind. In a good way.
I’ll take it! Thank you 🤗🤗
I agree! It’s not for everybody! Keep going honey you will get it. Your season is coming!!❤️
Thank you for the encouragement!
Glad I found your channel. I enjoy your videos and perspectives on the profession.
I totally know what you mean, I felt this way about in person courses my entire life. Going to a campus was so dreadful for me and this is how I felt in college. So imagine the depression k-12 caused me during childhood but couldn’t escape it because it was the way things were done.
I love listening to you. I wish I had found you a few years back. I have stopped working. You are what these new nurses need. You appear to care about what you are doing and you keep it real . Maybe there is still help for nursing.
Just completed my NP program. Feel your pain!!! But you can do it!!
You are going to be an excellent NP Kendra.
When you say: "it's like a factory..." I was laughing like...🥰🥰🥰
You have to go where you feel you get what you need and be your best.
Online & in class is very different.
Oh yes! I’m an extrovert and I do my best learning in a classroom setting amongst other learners. I don’t have the discipline for online learning.
I love virtual learning. Theoretically its teaching yourself & Id rather that🤷🏽♀️….😂 just make sure its not only regionally accredited but Nationally…!
You got this! And thanks for the transparency! It’s comforting to know that there’s others with their own strengths and weaknesses, especially while I’m a student nurse. 🙏🙏
I feel the same as you. Online learning isn't for me. I can do virtual learning where we meet on zoom and there is a meeting happening. Strictly online learning feels as though you yourself is teaching yourself. That just doesn't sit right with me. Props to those that can do that but it isn't for everyone. p.s. I love your RUclips content.
Hey Viktor! Education is so much more than a curriculum that’s placed online. The classroom setting allows for true interaction and networking. I appreciate your support ❤️
The system is working against your talent. Reformation of healthcare is needed today. You are so articulate and speak to the relevance of healthcare. Please stay strong and share! I really enjoy your videos and believe that your videos should be part of policy.
They don’t teach in NP school at all!!! I got overwhelmed by the online stuff too and if I asked a professor I was told to look it up. There were no lectures. Just pressure to have stuff in on time
Good video. Education requires an honest self-assessment of one's assets and liabilities. I've completed graduate programs in brick & mortar (BM) and online. I graduated with very high GPAs in both. I enjoyed the BM experience more but found online to be more challenging. Each of us have to discover the best goodness‐of-fit.
I was apprehensive about online NP school as well but decided to try. I went to Frontier and it was a good experience. Out of all my classes, I only had one instructor who didn’t teach, didn’t hold online live classes. I had to hustle to find clinicals for Midwifery but they had connections for the FNP program. All the best.
You are not alone... While I was in IT for 30 years prior to becoming a nurse, I found on-line learning much harder than on-site. I appreciate your honesty and direct nature that takes into account compassion and empathy.
So you went from IT to nursing while I am going from nursing to IT. Wow!
@@ramseyabsessien8990 Yes, close to 30 years with last 18 in IT web hosting and security, then to nursing school at the age of 50.
What made you decide to go into nursing? I'm trying to do IT now.
@@dominiqueharris7823 I was top of the field in a very niche area of e-commerce security on Linux. It was a very competitive area on an international level where consumers were often looking for the least expensive price it would not take into account wisdom. I still remember a case of a California customer reporting that they had an IBM consultant that they were paying $1000 a day and after two weeks but still not resolved the problem. While I was on the phone with them I had them run a few commands based on what they were Sharing what was the nature of the problem. I was able to fix their problem in 15 minutes give or take and the company for whom I worked only charged $100 an hour with a minimum of one hour. So here this company that paid roughly $10,000 over two weeks to not get the problem fixed it all wanted to fight $100 bill change that they should've been only charged in Quarter hour increments. They were not grateful that the problem was solved and they were not interested it was solved in 15 minutes versus two weeks. It was nitpicking like that and my wife asking if I could see myself doing that over the next several years and it made me question the area that I was in. So after a battery vocational casting that included a personality test I never heard of, the Myers Briggs personality test, they recommended anything in healthcare, anything in public education or anything in counseling. Change the time we were trying to encourage our daughter to go in the healthcare and I feel that it's best to lead by example I was determined to become a registered nurse because the register nurse teaches, councils And is in healthcare. That was the start of my journey at the age of 50. It's no a little over nine years later and I have not looked back cents. It was among the best decisions that I ever made in my life and I am so glad God called me to become a hospice nurse.
God bless and with all do respect. Read your story was a pleasure. Right know I'm in a debate and/or career change. I'm applying to a CNA program to follow became a LPN. Your story was God's answer to prayers. I'm 46 and i thought it's to late for me.
Good for you! Best of luck with your studies. You will be a fabulous NP....welcome to the club 😊
Best wishes! Remember, persistence wins!!
Definitely! I will be pushing through.
Finding a preceptor is the absolute worst 🤦🏾♀️
Who are you telling and the cost of paying for one, absurd.
Girl. You smart as heaven. I know u could do it!!! and your absolutely positively right. Training for Advanced career belongs in the classroom.
I appreciate that. I’m trying, it’s rough though.
I completely understand where you are coming from. Online school is challenging….I went to a brick and mortar school for my NP degree.
It’s such an injustice to have online schools taking money and not actually helping students succeed- degree mills. The accrediting boards also need to be held accountable. Plus u get zero networking skills. The teachers aren’t teaching-the tests are 3rd party & papers graded by another 3rd party. Sadly, these models are not producing competent clinicians. If Med school was online-nope. Hybrid ok but these schools also do not allow any academic freedom and under pay faculty.
It really is a shame and never made sense to me. I value education and think that the online only format is a disservice to clinicians and the public. Let’s not talk about the finding your own clinical site, a huge disaster. This new school seems promising, it’s a state university.
I agree with you. I searched hard for a school that found my sites for me. I do mostly online but the instructors do optional live zooms that we can attend if we want.
Guess what? Even that school to which you referred to as a factory, you still have to post 2 peer discussions along with two journal articles for each postings. That's just the way NP schools operates. Simmons may assist you in finding preceptors. It's challenging to complete the clinical rotations if you have to work more than two days out of the week.
discussion boards are stupid. students just post coz it's required. there is no thought provoking discussions when students just post coz it's just required. some put no effort at all and therefore there is no learning taking place. I dropped coz there was no hands on when it came to health assessment class. I don't mind online school but I prefer the program to be a hybrid program. and also I need someone to secure preceptors for me coz it's a headache trying to find one on your own.
Facts from a Cna of 37 years 😢I seen it all also
That for profit school gave me what I needed. School is what you make it and making sure you are prepared to take care of your pt safely. passed my cert exam got a job out school. Currently at a "better school" for my DNP online....all the same.
That is awesome. Keep pushing ❤️
The discussion boards are the worst. I have to have in person classes as well. And the school I went to for my NP, I didn't make it past the first semester. I have to have interaction. I refuse to pay 10x more than in state to have to teach myself. That's literally what I pay you for!!! They had no virtual lectures at all. I couldn't deal.
Absolutely! It was mind boggling to me as well. Do people actually learn like this? Education is so much more than a curriculum that you throw online as a self guide/self study. I completely get you.
This is a major reason why MDs ridicule NP schools
Our training needs to be more intense and physical. Provider role shouldn't ever be an online school. I love NP but our training needs to be better regulated
I am in such COMPLETE agreement about on-line school.
I am very glad for those who can do on-line programs but I am someone who needs in-person programs.
Kendra, after I did my topic for the discussion in that school 😂 and researched at least three papers-within the last three years and considered scholar like papers with numerous authentic sources in the bibliography.
The students would wait until the ninth hour before they would respond to your posts and then they would use your papers that you took the time to read to respond in the personal discussions. So basically I did all the work and they just use my own papers to answer me. I did make friends on the discussion boards because you can tell by the way someone writes that they would be receptive if you had a question and you could actually send messages directly to them in the school portal without anyone else seeing it. I even had a friend in Guyana who I was helping her with a computerized math assignment at 3 AM in the morning using my iPhone and my iPad so she could look at how I work things out. Unfortunately I had to drop the course and that was a MPH. That would’ve been very useful in this Medical climate that we are in now.
Everyone is unique and that includes their style/way of learning! EDIT: The interaction and support of a classroom with their peers is invaluable as it adds valuable learning experiences and support! Not everything can be learned in books imho!
I’m in undergrad right now and I feel you on the discussion boards, you know how many points I lost because I forgot to respond to 2 other classmates😂
I could not keep up!!!
I have never passed an online class, no matter how easy. My thoughts are that I will never take another class online. I don’t know if it’s my ADHD. But this is a horrible learning method for me! If I can not show up, I do not want take the course. It’s a complete waste of my time and money.
When people have online courses, they just do the bare minimum, which isn't a lot because the point of it being online is for it to be flexible, so there's always a bunch of resources that people who aren't serious about learning never even glance at.
In my online classes, I always just pick random people to respond to and never read anything anyone else says. In an actual, in-person discussion, even if you weren't participating, you're still exposed to hearing the other people talk about whatever the discussion is. You get to see if anyone makes a really uncomfortable face/has uncomfortable body language in reaction to someone saying something, etc. It's less flexible, but I definitely think the benefits outweigh the downsides because there is the comradery and healthy competition that comes with a community, especially one geared towards learning difficult, important material
How do you all fit in this master's on top of a nursing workload? And a child! U r amazing
The 2nd school sounds like the university of the firey bird.
I made it 4 weeks and quit cuz it was writing discussion posts every single day mon-fri. Plus 2 big research papers. And this was part time. 1 class at a time and I went per diem at work. It was still too much!!! And the instructions with due dates were often contradictory to the class calendar. And yes, the stress about finding my own preceptors was over the top.
Lol Oh yes!! That school called me for about two years straight before giving up! It just seemed like for me, I could waste a lot of time/money if I wasn’t reallly on it.
Kendra don't beat yourself up about the school you choose pray about it and let god choose the school for you don't quit it just not you time. Do your homework first before you attempt to enroll.
I commend you for trying and trying. 👍👍👍
I love online classes. However I think the approach on teaching varies depending on the school. The online classes that i had for nursing school includes recorded lectures that the professor made themselves. It was very good cause I can go back and forth with the lectures plus they provide other studying materials that supports the lectures. They are also very good on answering emails for other additional questions.
That's why I don't want to do my MSN. I tried and dropped. All of the programs are online. I can't do online learning. My RN to BSN program was hybrid at the time. Which was doable although I had to find my own clinical site for the last semester and do a community health project.
Online learning anything is difficult!!! I NEED HUMAN INTERACTION AS WELL!!!
I knew it wasn’t only me.
Wising you best sis!!
All the more reason why I am planning to apply to PA school instead. I also work better when everything is in person and can get a lot of hands on practice.
Oooooo!!!
ME TOO!!!
I need a human being in my vicinity for HELP PLEASE🤚🏽
Are you planning on enrolling?
@@KendraRN No.
I’m already enrolled in the community college near my apartment here in El Paso TX.
I’m just BARELY starting my nursing journey. At the moment I’m CNA, but do homecare. It’s a NIGHTMARE here.
In LA, I was making GREAT money! Here , it’s a dead end job with no future. At least in LA, I had clients that could utilize my personal shopper/ stylist skillz . Not HERE😂
No Bergdorf’s sadly.
I’m applying the LVN & RN program, but for now.. I’m taking my core classes this summer. I start next month.
One English class online, then math in the fall. I’m taking an online class because the “in person” is MAD far and being the consummate New Yorker.. I don’t drive. (Yet)
Just passed my written test 😂
I hear ya! I only did online bc I had to with covid changes...
It ain’t for me.
@@KendraRN me either had to do it tho, good thing we made a group text and pulled each other through...
I know, I’m struggling at the moment
The professor didnt know the which assignment you were referring to . lawd
Thanks for the perspective. Are you still in school? I'm prepping myself to enter a MSN program for midwifery. Most programs are completely online now. My bet friend now a PsyNP, struggled finding preceptor during her time in school as well. She was very stressed.
It’s hard for me too- I struggled through my MBA
For a while I thought I was just incapable of competing the programs. My self esteem took a hit but then I had to be honest with myself. Online learning isn’t for me. I hope to have a MBA one day. You’re awesome.
I bet you that's Walden 🙊🙈😂
My exact thought!
🙈🙉🙊
🤫🤑😉
She made the letter “W”, so you already know 😂
Same❤😢
Kendra same!!! I am not friends with online 🤣
I’m not alone huh?! I can’t do it, lol
@@KendraRN
NO, you are not alone. You echo my exact sentiments. I’m trying to hard to finish this BSN(online) only 7 classes but much like you I’ve attempted 3 times!!! And I agree with everything you said, I have to be in the classroom which is why I excelled in my ADN program.Another thing is… I’m a traveler now and I just honestly don’t see the benefit so it’s hard. I’m soo glad you make these videos!!!
@@MrGQRN Don't give up. I'm a traveler and am finishing up my BSN now. I'm going 2 do the MSN n Education online as well. The goal is 2 save, so I don't have 2 work as much. I can do some school, take a break, then work again.
@@mistermilkman thank you!!
@@MrGQRN Anytime! 💪🏿
Sometimes we have 2 do what is inconvenient & unconventional 2 get 2 the next level. Healthcare is changing. Nursing is not exempt. It will strengthen u when big unexpected changes arise. There will not b comfort n everything that we do. That's what creates warriors. God will give u everything u need 2 b successful. Ur dedication will grant u favor.
Don’t hate on Walden 😂 It works for some of us.
I know. I’m always impressed by those who made it out successfully. I’m not built for it 🤣🤣
I'll say this much. I've preceptor about 5 NP students at this point, and let me tell you, ya'll need to rise up and get your schools to act right.
Without fail, EVERY student I have preceptor had to jump through hoops to find a site.
As a med student, part of my school fee included all placements and rotations.
Can you imagine paying all that money for medical school, then having to hustle to find where you're going to do your Paediatric or Surgery rotation?
Many of these NP students, after getting into these schools, are left on their own to find where they can get this hands on training. They find preceptors by word of mouth.
The school should at least keep a list of potential preceptors, and contact them on the student's behalf.
And then add to that, they send the student, with NO curriculum.
What am I supposed to do with you when you're here?
I end up doing the same things I would with a medical student, but they still end up getting the short end of the stick, because the med student comes from an institution that has a contract with the hospital, so they can get access to the EMR, see a patient with supervision etc.
The NP student doesn't have that, so they end up just shadowing for the most part. And how you're allowed to do while you shadow will be highly preceptor dependent.
I happen to like to teach, so I'll allow them to do more than most, but some really are done a disservice in my opinion.
And these students are paying THOUSANDS of dollars to these schools.
I think it's unconscionable.
Thank you for your honest experience.
I personally will not enroll in any NP program that does not include a Preceptor.
The fact that many programs do not is outrageous to me. How does the school know if you are covering the learning that you need to complete in order to be qualified to practice once you do graduate? The answer is that they don’t and that is outrageous to me!!
Did my MSN online it was difficult
If you could change time, what would you have done differently to avoid 4 enrollments and 3 closures?
I would’ve gone to an in person school from the start. I know myself but I was trying to go with what everyone else was doing.
I am going through the same thing…
Chamberlain is the second one?
No! I didn’t attempt going there. I’ve gotten mixed reviews on them.
I wish you could DM me the name of the school. I am in the process of researching hybrid schools. is there anyway you can dm me??
She gave a cue
What school are you attending ??
Bowie State University.
@@KendraRN thank you Kendra . You are such an inspiration. I am all the way down in Africa zambia . Just passed my US RN and finding your voice content super helpful
How much money did you lose enrolling
3 times and dropping the course/program.
Close to $4000. Poor decisions do cost.
What state are you in?
MD
What school was this?
Big W
It's Walden university
🤐🤐🤐hahaha! Aren’t you clever.
Walden lol