Comparing The Oldest vs Newest Toyota Tacoma!
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They skipped the first 2 generations of Tacomas. Gen 1 started in 95. Gen 2 in 2005. 😮
How do you go through the history of Tacomas and have the first Tacoma you show be a 2015?? I did appreciate the look back at the old pickups though...
TFL, you're forgiven.
I was about to say the same. Skipped straight from 1995 to 2015 🤔
They missed the best generations
@mattandshelleymccool4753 they even got the year wrong. The 3rg gens weren't until 2016 not 2015.
@@Wolfsden_Gaming they are just stupid
This 1980s truck brought back so many memories! I had one in silver and loved it! Cost me 12,500 or 13,000!
Wow, gave me flashbacks to my then new '87 4Runner! The early to mid-eighties Toyota trucks were really pretty special when I look back now.
Crazy thing the truck white truck (and red truck both) sit so high, yet you can still easily reach into the bed.
Toss that '89 (red truck) sunroof panel my way. Black forward brackets just wore out on mine.
1984 was the first year of the XtraCab.
Yes, they said the first XtraCab was an '86 in the video. To see otherwise all you have to do is watch Back to the Future for Marty's '85 or my garage for my '85 XtraCab
What about the first and second gen tacoma?
1st Gen for me. ....with that lovely size and stick.
I wouldn't have showcased the T-100, that was more a prelude to the Tundra like the "pickup" was to the Tacoma. Also saying the 3.0 was the engine to have... I would rather have the 22re over that. Skip that 3.slow to the 3.4 and 4.0. Luckily the 3.4 bolts up real nice in the trucks originally with 3.0s.
Had an 85 and an 88. I knew WAY TOO MUCH about the 22RE. mine were not very reliable, water pump, starter, never idled when it was cold, head gaskets, warped exhaust manifold, leaking valve cover gaskets, new five speed trans. Leaking rear end. Swore I would never drive another Toyota. Fast forward 27 years through numerous even less reliable Dodges and Chryslers, we now a 16 Tundra, 16 Highlander, 10 Camry and an 08 RAV4, moral of the story, never say never😊
I would honestly like the older one better more reliable easy to fix
Are you joking? How can you say so many improvements? I don’t see much improvement at all. 4 cylinder turbos. I’ll take a v 6 any day. The last one before the Tacoma was my favorite. Wish I had kept mine. I went to a 4Runner now. It is a much better vehicle the power train is much more reliable. They will probably mess it up in 25. Just my opinion.
What happened with the first two generations of the Tacoma? It wasn't the best review coming from a Toyota nut. I've owned 3 first gens, 2 trucks and a 4 runner. My first truck was a 94 with the V6. That engine is a dog and guzzles gas. The boat anchor or Toyota engines. I love my current 02 taco, 260k miles and running strong.
I have a 83 toyota with the 22 r and it is a 4x4 high lux with the short bed .why didn't you go back farther.
can they remake the 91 as a heritage
Still miss the 'small' pickups; when they went midsize, they lost something (unless you needed the size). Now the midsized trucks are the size of the legacy full sized trucks.
Frontier is the only midsize that's still midsize
Regulations really ruin the small trucks and safety on the streets for mall cars/pedestrian
The worse thing is that full size trucks are generally shrinking. Too many are getting short bed 3/4 ton/1 ton trucks and its harder and harder to find long bed trucks.
I actually think my dad’s Colorado ZR2 might be bigger (meaning wider and bulkier) than the ‘98 Sierra 1500 I used to have.
@@Hybris51129well the bed is shrinking. The cab and overall size is getting longer and wider. They're now full SUVs with a bed that might get used.
That little cream 100hp 40+ year old Toyota has a higher payload than a new HD power wagon lmao. Let that sink in.
Load them both up to max payload and then go try and merge onto I-40 in Flagstaff, AZ (7,000') at 75 mph. 🤣
@@donleamon8653 In 1983 it wouldn't be an issue. Everything was underpowered.
I’m 56. When I was in high school I feel in love with the Toyota pickup. The short bed 4x4 with a 4” lift and 33” tires was an amazing tough and capable little truck. Girls loved “how cute” they were so they were popular.
Best part about them was they were indestructible and affordable.
Only problem around here was that the bed rusted off in about two years. I do wish they made something like this today.
I’m your age too. I think we all wanted the Back to the Future pickup. Great looking and fun trucks. As others have said, too bad they don’t make ’em like that anymore.
I had an 1983 4 cylinder, 4 wd, standard shift, Toyota pick up. Loved that truck and how it looked, Black. The girls like it. It was LIGHT WEIGHT.
Put a cap over the back and rigged a couple storage boxes in the back rear.
Towed a pop up camper and went camping/vacation all over with two Dalmatians in the back. Even camped in Vegas. Went down the coast.
Parallel parked (with the pop-up in tow) on a steep slope near down town San Francisco. Met a lot of fun people..... So many stories.
Kept a journal along the trip. Fun to read it again so many years later.......
Lot of fun
Even went 4 wheeling in the back country. Bought a gold panning kit and went prospecting. Late night parties at the camp grounds drinking Yellow Stone whiskey. So many stories....
@@bobcoats2708I’ve sure wanted one since then.
Test drove a couple, but they were always out of my price range and then with my family they were too small to fit everyone.
Hoping to get a gently used (v6) one next spring, so my kids can drive our ‘13 Rav4.
I only hope it will be better than I imagine and worth the 39 year wait. Lol 😅
Not to sound stupid, but the Japanese are absolute MASTERS at combining colors together. Look at their kimonos and historical clothing, they are just very good at seeing color combinations.
Not stupid at all. I think you’re spot on.
You’re absolutely right
Low reach access beds are the best thing about older trucks. Non-existent in any modern truck.
I never use the tailgte in my 1st gen Tacoma unless I'm loading something heavy.
Most modern trucks you gotta climb the tire or climb on the bed just to grab stuff
Frontiers still are. At least my 2018 sv is low reach. Don't know about the new generation
The 1979 through 1983 body style was awesome also. Btw you said that the '89 model was the 1st year of the extra cab, they were available in the '84-'88 as well.
I agree. I had an 83 back in 1989 and I love the looks of the front of those trucks. It had no power but it was bulletproof and was great for offroading.
Yes! I had a tan ‘81 4x4 long bed. Still miss that little guy.
I had a grey 82 SR5 long bed 4x4 with a matching Brahma shell. Blew the engine in '99 and replaced it with my current y2k Taco TRD 5spd 4x4.
@@foxtrotwolf6081 Very cool. I had a shell too - with a carpet kit. Very handy for securing my stuff and for camping
I’ve got a 1985 xtra cab so I kinda cringed when he said that lol
Missing a first gen pickup. The 4wd from 79-83. The very best of the Toyota pickups.
My girlfriend has 1996 Tacoma SR5 4x4 extra cab, V6 manual, 200 miles away from 100k, and it such an awesome vehicle. It’s a truck. It’s simple and reliable. I absolutely hate the direction of modern trucks with big screens; I never ever wish the Tacoma had a screen. It has switches, and they work. I don’t have to search around s screen to adjust the heat, AC, etc. - it’s just a quick simple switch adjustment. And, if the switch breaks, it doesn’t affect the function of other switches, and it’s easy to fix. If a screen goes out, it affects so many functions, and it’s ka-Ching to replace it. I know someone whose Prius screen went out, and it was something like $6k to fix.
I digress. The simplicity of the older Tacomas is a breath of fresh air and makes me pine for the good ol’ days when things were simpler and easier to fix.
They need to recreate the small pickup just like those 80’s trucks with no flash and all function I would buy one.
Time to repeal CAFE laws that force trucks to become larger and larger.
Amen! I miss my S10 I had years ago and my Ranger before that. Small, simple, easy to park and they had a bigger box than a full size truck does today.
Those older pickups were the best. Not only reliability but off road as well. Excellent ground clearance compared to the newer ones.
Toyota use to offer the Hilux in the US until they called it the Tacoma which is a much weaker truck ( C channel frame vs Fully boxed).
Actually there’s a very good reason for that. Rust proofing. See overseas the Hilux has far less chance to be exposed to road chemicals that cause rust. By going to the C-channel with boxed sections as needed the water is not trapped in the frame. Salty water in a frame can and will accelerate the corrosion. C-channel also leaves more drainage and more opportunities to get in there and blow it out. Commercial class 8 semi trucks use a C-channel. Besides the Tacomas don’t seem to have frame rotting issues now and are capable of doing whatever you need. A fully boxed frame vs a C-channel is a non starter. If you need a truck to haul a giant boat I think you need to setup up to a tundra. A Tacoma is just fine for most folks who buy trucks these days
My 2nd Gen Tacoma was a darn good truck.
Yeap. Still built in Fremont CA. Reliable as Hell
My Uncle had a Tacoma with a bed cap and he kept a mattress in there for camping. Literally drove it from Seattle to Tacoma to Spokane WA and camped in my Grandpa’s yard for a summer. It was a neat truck.
I have an 86 and a 90. I absolutely love them. But if I had to pick which is my favorite. I'll have to say my 90. I grew up in them as a child. Just something about the looks of a 89-95 pickup. They are aggressive looking but gentle. They make me feel fuzzy. My 86 is a blast also. I love driving it for that classic feel.
I have to agree with you, I had a 1990 Xtracab 4cyl and 3 1993 over the years. For the last 15 years, I've been driving a 1993 SR5 that has a lot of mileage now but it's still fairly clean and every power option works (including the a/c and power antenna!). It has every option available then except for the automatic transmission. In the last few years, I've been getting a lot of comments about it everywhere I go, people of all ages walk around it in parking lots and ask if it's for sale! I was used to having curious people with my older cars from the 1960s and 1970s but it's happening even more often with my newer daily driver now!
Most of the ‘modernization’ happened during the 2nd Gen. but they skipped that. Shrinking bed size, expanding cab space… also worth mentioning after all that talk of ‘agricultural’ ride quality and leaf springs that you can finally get coil spring rear suspension in 2024. The evolution away from a
Truck being for work is nearly complete.
Informative. What happened to first and second generation Tacomas? Had a 2000, V6, TRD w/manual. It was a great off-road truck. Have moved to a Tundra Crewmax for more room, power and towing. However, looking forward to 3rd generation TRD Off-Road, Double Cab for daily driver.
In 1990 I've traded he wore out Honda big red three wheeler for a 1984 Toyota pick up. I still have that truck today although there's probably not a street body panel on it and the bed finally rotted off from caring feet in the back and I put a little flatbed on it, but it still runs today, I think the odometer has flipped at least twice
My parents bought a 1980 Toyota truck when we first moved up to the Sierras, hauled a lot of firewood in that thing growing up. That truck was super reliable, and I beat the crap out of it my senior year of hs. I miss the smaller pickups, most of them these days are just too big for me.
That Red SR5 is absolutely immaculate !
I'll take the older truck 10 out of 10 times. 😜
The oldest Tacoma (‘95-‘04) isn’t anywhere in this video.
The old Tacoma proved it's worth multiple times I hope Toyota dosent ruin the Tacoma name
They already did that with the 2015-2023. It has a terrible seating position, the engines feel anemic, and the automatic is a dumpster fire with constant gear hunting when cruising, even on flat roads.
@@palebeachbum ...and even the newest one doesn't look as good as the first 2 gens. And so big. I MUCH rather have the 1st and 2nd gen. After that I'm not interested.
@@palebeachbumsales would say otherwise 🤷🏻♂️
@@Kevin257 sales are coasting on old reputation and the high resale value created by the old reputation, not because Tacoma is superior compared to its competition. It's an archaic design and certainly not the most attractive.
Where is my beloved 2nd gen 😢
I’m still driving my 1995 Tacoma 4X4 V6 standard shift. My plan is to give it to my daughter. We plan to drive up to Alaska next year to visit my younger brother 3k miles one way. Several times a year someone offers to buy it so it is still amazing popular.
Marty Mcfly's back to the future Toyota pickup was an Xtra cab. Also the S10 had an extra cab in 1983
I miss the simplicity of trucks, these days there’s just so much tech even under the hood that doesn’t feel right
The orange peel at 15:58 though. I’m convinced Toyotas quality standards are slipping.
i take the oldest one
Man, that new tacoma has horrible orange peel for the paint job! No way I'd be willing to pay that much for such a vrappy paint Job. Between this and the new Tundra I swear Toyota is shooting themselves in the foot, or they have a saboteur in their design department. For the first time Toyota is off of my list for my next new truck.
I;ve had Toy trucks since 1975 and have had several versions of each generation. Loved them all!
👏👏👏😊 GREAT JOB TOMMY AND KASE ....
Except they don't have all the facts correct.
@@ranger8901 Make your own "perfect" facts video and post links here for them. 😉
No wheel time in the new truck was disappointing! Hoping you'll get a chance soon.
I heard tons of complaints on the 3rd gen with autos but the manual eliminates the hunt (obviously) and I think more importantly has shorter gears (3.909 autos vs 4.30 manuals).
I had a red 1989 just like that red one, but it was the 2 wheel drive version.
Sold it cheap for $1,000 in 2012 to get to the 5K I needed to buy a nice looking Ford Ranger, and let's just say I should have kept the Toyota.
This is why i will never get rid of mine
Still have my 2003 tacoma 3.4l prerunner double cab with 221000 miles original engine and transmission
Reminded me of Back To The Future!
I never met a Tacoma I didn’t like.
That 89 absolutely has my vote
My first truck was a 1990 Toyota with the V6 and a 5 speed. Great truck!! Fun off road and great as a daily driver, well except for the gas mileage. It was a guzzler. Still miss that truck.
I drive a 1985 Sr5 pickup daily... It's my little nugget of gold
I currently have a 2009 single cab base. It's got a 5 speed manual tows around 3500 which is enough for me for now. 4X4 and a 6 foot bed. I love it. Only downside is I miss the auto windows and lpcks but I need a truck and being 22 it's all I need right now
The 2TR and 5 speed is a good combo. Isn’t super quick but you can hammer it all day and it’ll just go and go. There’s a reason that engine is still being made in overseas Toyota models like the new Land Cruiser. 5 speed is way preferable to the 4 speed auto too. I had a 2wd ‘13 with that combo and it towed and drove well (especially once I threw in a 3.73 rear end from a 4x4 model).
@ALMX5DP yeah I absolutely love it. It hauls my 4 wheeler great and I can use a 1k pou d trailer with 2k pound of soil pretty good. If I could afford to do a small bump in power just for towing wise so im not constantly in 3rd going up certain hills would be nice but I love it regardless
@@jasonc7503 yeah I did the pre filter mod and the removed the fender elbow piece. Not sure if it made a difference but certainly couldn’t hurt if not done so yet. I was also about to pull the trigger on a header but got rid of the truck before that happened. I did like the Magnaflow 11225 I had welded in though. Gave it a throaty sound without being obnoxious. Think I have a video from a number of years ago just with a cold start.
@@ALMX5DP that sounds interesting
13 single cab base 5sp here. Love it.
The 3.5L with the 6 speed is fantastic for my use - mostly driven here on the flat roads of Alaska. No hunting of gears and plenty of power. But I am also not driving at 6000 feet and definitely not hot rodding it.
Every one says the new ones “dwarf” the old ones but it’s really not much bigger in single cab form
Miss my 1980 and 1983 Toyota pick ups. Stick shift, no a/c as simple as simple gets. Changed out my first clutch on my 1980 4x4 - easy peezy...
I really like the early white toyota but they are all great .
I wish Toyota would make an 85 style truck with the solid from axle her in the US! I had an 89 truck and 4Runner and now own a 2019 TRD 4x4 !
Favorite line: Nummi built one of the most reliable vehicles and now Tesla builds vehicles of questionable quality at that plant.
I think the Tacoma was a great truck, but peaked in the 90s and has gotten a little bit worse with each redesign. It's like every time the engineers try to improve them, they just make them a little bit more complicated and a bit more problematic. The powertrain in the 2015-2023 is just...not good. Anemic engines paired to an atrociously behaved 6-spd auto. There is more to ownership experience than resale value.
Still daily driving my 1999 loaded V6 5 speed TRD off road Tacoma. That’s a proper first generation Tacoma. Tacoma started as a half year offering in 1995.
9:10 The curb weight for a 1989 SR5 4WD was 3765, so they may have been looking at the GVWR
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Never had a Tacoma, but we did have a 88 Nissan Hardbody King cab, it had about 288k miles on it when we traded it in.
Bought a 1990 base model 4x4, loved it! Bought a 2010 4x4, hated it. Look at the (lack of) ground clearance in the front of the 2024. Yikes!
I like how the title is Oldest to Newest Tacomas, but they skipped the 1st 2 gens of Tacomas and instead talked about more non Tacoma Toyota trucks.
1st Gen=Best Gen
The 2nd gen Toyota "pickups", and the 1st gen Tacomas are the absolute best. No bells & whistles, no luxury items that could complicate things later on....just plain-old, simple work horses!
In Australia these are the Toyota Hilux ute and the Toyota Hilux is the biggest selling vehicle in Australia and l own a 1997 Toyota Hilux single cab rear wheel drive with an aluminum drop side tray and l still can buy a new Toyota Hilux in the same configuration but there double cabs 2X4 and 4X4 not every Hilux is 4X4 by the way Australia is a 4 cylinder country l have my self owned both comercial vehicles and cars with four cylinder engines ranging from 1.2 litre up to 2.6litres l own a 1997 Toyota Hilux with the 22R engine and l have done 100mph in it by the way the speedometer only goes up to 160 kph which is about 100mph which is good for an engine with 433000 kms aprox 250000 miles we did get the 4 Runner in Australia and l have only seen one very rare and in 1997 there were no Hilux 4X4 they came in in the mid 2000 and the dash board of the second Toyota ute is the same but configured for right hand drive in my Hilux didn't have the Tacometer because it isn't 4X4 and the aluminum tray my Hilux performs resonably well it is very simple no computers or modules the only thing in it that is electronic is the radio cassette player and l have owned it for about 4 years and l use it on a daily basis we have a hatchback also wiith a 1.4 litre 4 cylinder engine but my wife doesn't like riding in the Hilux because it is very rough it is built to carry loads of over 1000kgs but in its 26 years it hasn't carried to many heavy loads because the rear leaf springs look brand new and they haven't been changed either has the carburetor yes it has a carburetor and no cat converter in 1997 cars had efi cat converters but comercial vehicles were exempt from emission laws the next generation of Hilux had the 2.7 litre engine with efi and a cat converter there are still a couple of 1997 Hiluxes around l know of at least three in the area were l live and they are work utes still going along
4:30 I bought a 1994 brand new. While the sales brochures and television ads back then referred to it as The Toyota Truck, the window sticker actually called this model The Toyota Hilux. I still have the window sticker.
If trucks were sold in this size category they would be a hot settler no doubt. People are tired of the massive and stupidly expensive vehicles.
Um.... I realize tommy probably wasn't an 80's baby. Those back seats and jump seats in trucks were for kids. not adults. Child seats weren't a thing. We were too short to need head rests. You were just supposed to climb back there and shut up. haha.
Bring back the made in Fremont Tacoma and the T100 with an 8 foot bed!!!🤩🤩
My daily is a 2023 TRD Pro with a 6-speed manual, but I also have a 2004 extended cab with a 2.7 and 5-speed. I think the old truck is the most purpose built vehicle I’ve ever owned. If I had to keep just one of my 5 vehicles, I’d keep the old Tacoma.
That's a really cool combo you've got there man! Nice to see someone who can appreciate both the classics & the more modern versions.
My daily is a '17 TRD Sport Ext cab V6 auto. I hate the new look of the '24 interior and the tiny engine. I'll end up keeping my Taco till it dies and knowing Toyota, it'll be a while.
I paid $7999 for my new 86 4x4. 😄
the first gen Tacoma 1995 1/2-2004 were pretty good too they had the 2rz, 3rz and 5vz engines.
Wait what?! You totally left out the 2nd Gen Tacoma. The 2nd Gen was probably the most iconic and significant for the industry as it not only was a major redesign for Toyota but helped define the mid-sized truck market. Not to mention setting the standard for offroad worthiness that the industry tried to catch ever since its intro. Bigger engine, overall bigger vehicle and double-cab people comfort that previous generations did not offer. Shame shame TFL.
Agreed.
Why y'all sleeping on the 2nd gen? It's a phenomenal truck, and the first proper mid-sized in the Tacoma lineup
Awesome bullet proof pickup
The main reason you have to rev out the engine is that it makes its HP around 3500 RPM thanks to the direct injection. It allowed it to make more power than outgoing engine, but at the expense of where the power band was located. Once you got used to the RPM band though, it didn't ever feel like it was revving too high around then. I've done a few trips through the Colorado mountains with mine now. Always a blast to get to CO.
Exactly. High revs isn’t necessarily bad; example, Porsche 911. 😉
I thought direct injection gave you torque down low like a diesel (by design always direct injection).
@@foxtrotwolf6081 no, turbos do that.
The new iForce Max has peak torque (465) at 1700rpm. The 3.5 had 265 @ 4,600rpm. So the new one will get the job done much more effortlessly.
Push the ECT PWR button if you want more. It will get you the power you seek
my family first vehicle was 1985 toyota xtra cab pickup SR5, family love it and then traded it on the first toyota camry
I had an 84 reg cab SB with the 22r 4" suspension lift & 3" body lift. Stock 4 10 gears and 35" tires.. Had a 87 extra cab LB with 22re 8" suspension & 3" body with 38s & 89 extended cab SB with the v6 3" body and torsion bars cranked up with 35s. These truck rode great with the bigger tires. All 3 had Stock 4 10 gears in the axels. They got with Stock tires 14-16 mpg. With the 35s, 25-27 mpg. The 38s got around 18-22 but were a bit much for the 22re. They would go anywhere. They were extremely tough. I even played the Fall Guy several times. The Tacoma's are no where near what those trucks were. Unfortunately I had to go to bigger trucks with Diesels for what I do now.
Miss the smaller trucks. Also that chin-spoiler needs to go bye-bye, what a hideous look.
I bought a 87 brand new on the title it said Toyota hi lux got almost four hundred thousand out of it best truck I ever owned
How the hell doesnt Toyota at least have the 1st gen Tacoma represented? Pretty sure that's still most people's fav gen.
My first truck was a white 1995 extended cab T100 and it was a great daily driver I felt like that was kinda like the step brother to the 1980’s Tacoma
Miss the first gen 😢
I bought a new 1983, ride quality would rearrange your internal organs but it was AMAZING off road!!!
I want a small 4wd truck like that older Toyota truck.
You forgot to mention the second gen Tacoma with the 4.0 liter.
The LOOK of 80s interiors.. ❤.. the gauge faces, the fabric on the seats. And available TURBO. 😋
You forgot the second gen!
The old one please. If someone remade this, they'd sell a ton!
The 80s through early 2000s were the Golden era of Toyota pick ups
Love this kinda video!
Why have they stopped making small trucks like these ? We now call the Maverick and Santa Cruz small trucks, which they are not. I guess we can't go back, too bad.
The 3VZE engine was very prone to blowing head gaskets...near left rear cylinder, where the exhaust crosses over from right to left cylinders, very hot exhaust in that area.
When the T-100 came out dealers were selling them for $5000. off msrp.
My unce bought new the last of the 80s gen Toyota. 2wd, automatic, EFI. absolutely loved that truck
First vehicle i ever bought was a 1994 Toyota pickup. Loved the truck but wasn't very comfortable on long drives. Had to get out and manually lock the hubs
I just got a 1993 Toyota pickup with 306k miles from my Uncle for $500. It's a manual so I'm still learning to drive it but I love it. I've always wanted one of those pickups that had the huge "TOYOTA" decal on the tailgate.
Missed my 88 Toyota and when mini trucks was big in the late 80's early 90's. Had the Japan version. I thought the bed looked better than the American version.