ATTENTION LOW HORSEPOWER TRACTOR OWNERS! CHIPPER VS SHREDDER
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2021
- Trying to decide if you need a chipper or chipper/shredder? We've got a pile of brush that needs eradicating. And we've got the tools to do it with the Wallenstein BX36s and the BXM32. The former is a chipper and the latter is a chipper/shredder combo. We haven't used a shredder until today, and we're a little unsure of it's purpose. So we looked into it and tested both, and we'll explain what we found!
These chippers are the right size for subcompact and small compact tractors and you'll see it tested on my John Deere 1025r tractor today.
Products in video:
Wallenstein Chipper/Shredder: bit.ly/3i6UDyd
Wallenstein Chipper: bit.ly/3x8uhQS
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Want more info on the chipper and shredder shown in the video? Check out the links below!
Wallenstein Chipper/Shredder: bit.ly/3i6UDyd
Wallenstein Chipper: bit.ly/3x8uhQS
I have the Wallenstein chipper/shredder for my Johnnie 2032R and it is an incredibly well built piece of machinery. I have used it for brush, leaves and tree branches and while I don't use it all the time, when needed it is well worth the price. And thanks to GWT for advancing our tractor education!
Glad it's working well for you, and appreciate you letting others reading know it.
Nice video. I have a Silky saw. It is very nice, high quality, cuts great, and seems durable. Sharp enough when new to do some rough cutting of 2x4s even. We’ll see how it ages.
We bought a pull behind Leaf collector attachment [it has it's own motor] for our garden tractor with a small chipper on the side, the chipper clogs all the time so we don't use it. Sometimes it's better to buy separate pieces.
Love the on site equipment demos..
Thanks Raymond!
Awesome great demonstration on the wood chipper thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
I had a Woods 5000 chipper/shredder for several years. Ran it behind a Deere 790 and a 4400. Reckon I owned it for 5-7 years
The Woods machine could chip a bit more than the Wallenstein...5" versus 3.0-3.5"
Nice implement...and if one need more light brush shredded, a chipper/shredder is the way to go. I probably used the shredder more than the chipper at the time
Both the Wallenstein and the Woods are virtually identical in design. The blower was an option on the Woods and a pretty expensive one at that. The chips fell underneath which required lifting the unit and raking them out.
I own a chipper now which takes up to 7-8 inches. Don't have the need for a shredder in my present circumstances...but a residential user with plenty of brush might be better served by a chipper/shredder
We run a WoodMaxx with hydraulic reverse - occasionally it is good to reverse and clear a wedged limb or trunk.
The shredder is great for turning huge piles if autumn leaves into a compact mulch pile. You can shred paper in it too. Just don't put in whole magazines and remember to remove staples for your safety while handling the mulch. No manufacturer I have contacted says cardboard is okay unless it is in smaller pieces (gets wound around the blade axle).
Nice, thanks for sharing!
Nicely done.
I love my Silky pole saw. I actually bought an extra blade and hardware to use as a handsaw.
We like it when the boss man is breaking a sweat !
Good job Court ...demos are great !
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Ha. Chris here: no doubt Courtney's putting in more hours every week than most guys I know. Though, yes, a lot of it is air conditioned.
My cheap Ryobi recip saw and a good quality pruning blades is a killer combo for cutting limbs and small trees.
I bought the Wallenstein BX52R chipper aproximatly four years ago . The quality and performance has been outstanding . Being a power feed chipper it eats anything and I have learned many things about chipping different varieties of wood etc . It will chip leftovers like bark and small chunks leftover from the splitter also and make nice mulch . Variable speed feed is nice controling the end product . My friend has the one with shredder . There great also . One needs too determine what there needs will be over time . For small property and people doing a lot of gardening etc . The shredder chipper is sweet and usally all you ever need . Wallenstein has many choices too pick from too cover all bases . There blades and parts are top quality also . I had a small issue when I bought it . Contacted them and they where right on it and corrected it immediately . They will always get my business . I have never seen a company stand behide there product like they do . Well worth the money 👍
We appreciate the insights for our continued education and for everyone reading also!
The Wallenstein site has a tool that allows you to plug in your tractor information and it will display compatible chippers. Based on my input (Branson 2400H) it recommended the BX36S or BX52S. I was already looking at the BX52S at my dealer. Based on the information from Wallenstein and my dealer (who in their defense got their information from Wallenstein) I purchased the BX52S. Paired with my tractor, which had 19 HP at the PTO, I could at most chip 3 inches. Anything larger than that would stall the tractor. I ended buying a larger tractor (40 HP at the PTO) in order to be able to chip at the capacity I needed. I contacted Wallenstein and told them of my experience. They need to revamp their chipper selector to realistically reflect actual chipping capacity vs PTO HP.
Great video and I love the shirt. I'm in Norther michigan.
I have never had any success with the shredder , the best addition I have found to be.the Flail mower .
Enjoy your videos, on the chippers, it’s a lot of work compared to having a small hot fire if your able to, i know maybe it’s not environmentally friendly.
The Chipper Shedder is what I prefer. When shedding it take lots of stuff to dull to hammer, When clipping hardwoods the knifes dull quickly and I plug up the shut lot quicker with small stuff. chipper has little bite larger chips than a shedder output chip is almost like saw shaving.
Thanks for your insight John!
Shredders are great for anything that won't slice nicely into chips. Handfuls of weeds, saplings vines and small things that are more leafy than woody, and things that are rotting. We throw old pumpkins into our shredder, but ours empties out of the bottom instead of through a chute. The shredder also beats the wood chips from the chipper into smaller pieces (if your shredder has a grate). It is not worth your time to try to put your fall leaf piles through a shredder (mow those and/or use a leaf collector).
Please show more video of use of the chipper model.
Thank you for the video
Very welcome!
i have the BX36 as well and the only issues i have with it is when i chip evergreens. The shoot will sometimes clog and you have to shut down the tractor and open up the unit and clean the shoot. Still love it though and great for around the homestead!!
Sounds like maybe a shredder would be better?
When your *_shoot_* clogs up, just take out you gun and *_chute_* it!
=O)
Got that bx36s myself. Maybe have 3-4 hours on it. Love it.
Real glad to hear that!
The self feed on gravity feed models is a real point of difference. You can see how often some branch crotches gets stuck. That gets pretty old after a while.
The chipper most often cloggs up the chute when it pulls in thin bendy twigs. That and easier feeding are good reasons to spend more and get a self feeding one.
Man , I love the video of you all working on your new place , but good grief you guys are working just too hard , skid steer and mulching head are a must , 5e 6r or 4 sieries tractor with a 12 or 15 ft cutter next weapon of choice , keep up the great work 👍
Ha. Little by little we'll get there.
Rule #1, never wear long sleeve shirts or jackets when doing this...if a limb catches the cuff, its easy for your hand/arm to get sucked in.
Hello, what was the hand saw you mentioned at the end of the video?
A Silky: sherrilltree.com/silky-saws/
Did you show the green one working or did I miss it? I was wondering if I could tell the difference in the two.
We didn't. The green one (BX36S) is a chipper only, and the black one (BXM32) has a chipper just like the green one (except for a 1/2" diameter material input difference). So watching the chipper on the black one is like watching the green one at work.
Hey Brotha.. Save those chips and sale for Mulch for flower beds and gardens.
Always wear gloves. The machine can grab the branch & snap it through your hands. This hurts.
AND don't reach into the chute to clear a jam. Unless you like being called "Stumpy."
Try the Milwaukee 2527-20 M12 FUEL HATCHET 6" Pruning Saw. Easy to use one handed. Small, light, and can cut everything you were doing.
I bought that for my wife to use, now she has none and i have one. Ill have to buy her another
Yeah, that shredder really sucks 'em down in sometimes.
The John Deere 3E series WILL work with off seat PTO!
The chipper is simpler to maintain and less to fix and costs less. For most uses, the chipper will work great. If you do need a shredder, you can always buy/rent a separate gas or electric shredder for quite a lot less money. the other challenge with the shredder is that you do not always want to shred into the same pile you are chipping. For me, I chip material to use the woodchips for our garden beds. I also shred leaves and small materials but that goes to a separate pile for use in the fall to use as an overwinter covering. A long-winded way to say, figure out what you intend to do with the materials first and then pick the equipment that suits your workflow and the area you have.
Chippers that take less than 5 or 6 inches are a waste of money. You ran across the same problem with the 3 inch chippers that we all do. You get branches with crotches that exceed the throat of your smaller chippers , you fish them out and then what do you do with them? Get a larger chipper, even for a smaller tractor, and limit the size and feed to make it work.
They're available from Wallenstein, but you end up spending a lot more money. We're confident though that they'll perform as indicated in the specs and if we get one to the shop we'll happily demonstrate in video. However, like you, we think you're project is always going to demand bigger than what you have, so if possible, buy bigger up front.
I've been looking for chippers for my 1025R. Thinking hard about the Woodland Mills WC-46.
Hydraulic feed with safety bar, chips up to 4", & has 3 year warranty.
Don't like the idea of trying to hand feed one without a hydraulic feed.
I have a woodland mills wc68 I think that's the number but anyway I love it best purchase I've done the quality of them is great and the hydraulic feeder is fool proof I'd say get the woodland mills chipper
@@duaneadams3786 thank you very much
I also purchased the Woodmax tm86h for my 1025r. Works like a charm and did a lot of clean up with it. Now I have a 2038R and it still works well. Even better with the extra HP.
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What tractor are you powering your WC-68? PTO HP?
I have a ford 5000 diesel about 68 horsepower I think it is I also have a farmall M that I'm going to put a 3 point on to power it soon I hope the ford doesn't even know it back there
Chippers don’t like grapevines. I bet that shredder would do a good job on grapevines.
I prefer a chipper with powered in feed rollers. I have a Woodland Mills WC88 on my JD 4320 and it works awesome. But it doesn’t like grapevines!
Hello,
Grapevines are one of those very fibery woods and dry. Chippers are mostly useless.
Even a schredder has some problems with vines.
I mix grass or leaves with my vines to help compact them in the schredder, that helps a lot.
I'm thinking of buying a WC88 to put on the back of my Kubota MX5200. How do you rate it? If we get one it would be chipping tree branches with leaves still attached, mostly.
If you have no use for the wood chips, why not buy a packet of matches?
I agree. It's a demonstration showing how the equipment works. That's what I do on this channel 🤪
Once you figure out how great the chips are for landscaping the uses are endless! 🙂
Burn bans, whether due to fire danger or municipal rules, all across the country is one reason. Not everyone can burn.
You may be in an area that does not allow burning or the brush is too green to burn and don't want to wait for it to dry out.
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But no one at Bora Responded. Just left me hanging.
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Definitely will. About to add a new canopy, the added weight will surely affect the side to side balance especially on uneven terrain. Definitely want the increased stability.
Both look they would be handy as a pocket on a shirt. For $1k...that would be a BIG pocket!
I believe I will just stay with the burn pit concept. Takes care of anything including stumps
That'll do!
I can start the PTO on my 3025E if I'm off the tractor, but if I start the PTO from the seat it will shut off if I exit the tractor.
Just trick the seat sensor
I have the same experience with mine.
That is indeed the way they work.
This is a way to have the automatic safety feature and at the same time the ability to use it intensionally without being in the seat.
I good feature from J.D. unfortunately they not only forgot to mention it in the manual but also to sales personnel.
Just bought a 1026R
Nice! Project time!
@@GoodWorksTractors I have .9 acres. Not alot of room for alot of projects
The shredder is only for little stuff one inch or so, and it uses a hammer mill like a garbage disposal. The hammer mill should pulverize the wood, making it much finer than the chipper will. The only real use for a shredder that I can think of is some kind of composting, such as Hugel Culture Composting. the finer material composts faster.
I Love Orange
Haha, which shade?
I have Dr chipper with a 5in cutting diameter
Their video demonstrating it cutting a branch in the 4" dia realm shows it bogging down the machine. How has your experience with it been?
@@GoodWorksTractors I didn't use it much I only put about a 3in branch through it
I have to apologize: in my haste to look up the DR yesterday, I must have clicked on an ad and ended up watching a video for a Power King 5" chipper. Then I doubled down in my haste and I didn't have to estimate the size of the log they were chipping, because they labeled it: 6". So they were testing a log bigger than the rating and it was bogging down the machine. Just wanted to amend what I said in my haste.
I dont want to have to trim stuff when I want it chipped
Would never get one without auto feed.
Golly, over 3k each. Is there a cheaper option.
Yeah a match.
Boy, you've really got a problem with chippers. Perhaps a bad experience with a beaver in your past?
Not aware of a cheap chipper unless you go Chinese.
@@GoodWorksTractors I try to do my best not to bank roll our enemies. I guess I need to tuck a little more away each paycheck then.
On a side note, I really appreciate you and your channel. I recently bought a farm but being from Cleveland I have no clue about any of this stuff. I only know heavy machinery that I've used in the military, so you have helped me a ton understand about compact tractors and attachments. Thanks a million.
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But just wait. In six months I'll be whining about the cold weather and complaining about one inch of snow. 🤣🤣🤣
Yep, same how I feel when northerners complain about “heat”. I’m in Houston and work outside doing utility locating... 10 minutes and my shirt is wetter than a wet t shirt contestants shirt. 30 minutes I’ve sweat through my pants.
@@jordandaniels5132 I'm in middle of NC, spent some time in Dallas and Houston and there isn't much difference. El Paso was simply an oven on high. Nobody from Michigan could survive any of that. 🤣
Hey guys.. Maybe yall don't know this, but it gets hot up north too. Just thought yall would like to know.
I've seen triple digits from friends in the PNW this summer. Nobody cares about the Texas heat too btw
You all should try being under ground in Death Valley. 15 degrees hotter than the surface.
@@johndaviau8237 I got to ask. Why are you under ground in Death Valley?
1st on Tuesday
Leave it to Texans to come onto a thread talking about "mehh that isnt hot you should...."
NOBODY CARES
Haha!