lowered yaw rates --- sub 300 --- have proven to reduce the amount of yaw tumble. Its center of gravity and weak motors make it unable to perform hard yaw snaps.
Had a very similar issue a few weeks back, but was able to hit the panic button before impact and it saved the drone before impact. Curious to see how this turns out for you. Just subbed, hopefully it goes well dude 🤟
@@rossmandrone im happy for u u could save it😊 , in my case i was to low i think. And bad luck there was water. Somehow i dont trust the avata anymore now. Never had this😮 thanks for the sub❤
I just lost my avata on the river of my city. I'm so sad. It lost control by himself using the motion controller. I'm so upset that can't even post the video on RUclips.😢
It's a known issue, though I wouldn't necessarily label it a bug-it's more a matter of physics. The drone is top-heavy, so when you perform a yaw motion at high speed while pitching down, it's prone to tumbling
100% tumble from my eye sight. If you love free style. I think 3.5 upgrade kit from Axis is your right choice. But... this kit will broke your all warranty from DJI support. I'm using the 3.5 kit and from my perspective it's better than original in everyday. Except a little bit shorter battery life
@@totyrain Personally I'm not that hardcore freestyle fans that's why I choose avata to be my first quad. And the freestyle quad is not that friendly for beginners like me. That's avata came in. BTW Avata itself has tumble issues. So for the middle line like me who wants the easy to use quad but it can do some freestyle either Avata 3.5 is the perfectly fit for what I want 🌞
There was an update at least 8 or 9 months ago which should’ve fixed the issue. This is really the first time this calendar year I’ve seen somebody bring this up.
@@jamestravis21 afaik the issue has been reduced, but not eliminated. The only people who have reported the problem going away entirely are the people who have changed to the axisflying mod for the avata. Surprised you haven't heard it being brought up again. If you have been closely following the issue the past year, you'd know that many others have reported the issue still exists even after update and the consensus was that virtually no amount of tuning would fix it. As an (bad) analogy, it's like fixing a car that is not aerodynamic with a software update to fix the aerodynamics. Ok so it's a bad analogy, but forgive me haha.
I can get my Mini 3 drone to drop the same way. 0:24 that swift turn where the drone must slow-down sideways seems to drop the inner-front propeller where sometimes the tilt is large enough to have the drone shut off the propellers. Literally I can repeat that crash every 3 seconds if I had a mini 3 to repeatedly crash for science. You can fix the problem with different flying techniques but I'm no flight instructor, I assume there will eventually be a firmware update that can better prevent the flips.
@@tetto3226 Yes, when you are in S mode at high speed & if you slow down too fast sideways then the drone dips/falls. It will catch itself most of the time but you can force it to accidentally turn off the props due to the tilt angle being too high.
I got mine just for altitide hold for occasional smooth property filming i have quads for most situations. But its not right people have paid so much for this drone from a highly profitable company for it to sketch out on a yaw spin. The amount of avatas destroyed and property damaged from this defect with no real care from dji is rubbish. They will just bring out another one for everyone to spend on and forget the avata.
That's a normal bug, had it twice now and it makes the avata so unsafe for flying above water or trees. DJI doesn't seem to have a chance to fix it, what's the reason why i think it will stay.
The reason is most likely the prop guards blocking the air, and or the weight. I think it would be hard to fix it in a update, the main thing they could do is just reduce the rates so it turns way slow
Good thing is, DJI now has fixed this bug. Now the drone wil just flip itself over again and hover in normal mode (basically automatic emergency brake) when this happens
@eminstinct4114 there is a yaw twitch issue with alot of ducted drones on dives. But yea shouldn't flip over and crash. I have one that like either twitch on yaw or twitch up on pitch .
DJI has fails with Avata. It has a lot of problems. Many bugs on FC they don't want to admit nor resolve (some of them really dangerous). Bad aerodynamic design. If you lose HD signal, automatically you lose RC signal as well. For the same price, there are better choice on the market.
Thats an error made by dji´s BAD aerodynamic design of the avata. u will get that problems forever. they cant fix it by patching, because its a mechanical thing. the only thing the can do, and did is, to airbrake and switch to normal, if the avata senses this crash moment. happy flying, stay safe - but u never loose that issue on your overpriced and bad designed product ^^
its more of a feature than a bug (less power, but more battery time), its not acrobatic drone, you cant do such high speed yaw turns with negative roll
@@fellpower well ducted fans have some advantages too, like efficiency (more thrust, battery lasts longer, capable of taking off with more weight), safety, durability, not saying avata is perfect, but there are some compromises in the design that swing both ways.. but if the tumble happens even in normal / sport mode with motion controller, that is something they should adress
You can not make such tight turns with the avata. It has to be slow, wide turns. Stop doing tricks with it. Thats how you destroy it. Get a real FPV quad if you want to do that
Nice flight till boom i think everyone misses the mark that this really isn't a "freestyle type " drone its part cinewoop and a smidge of freestyle. Ithink it does both for the average flyer yes a little pricey but very reliable dont havento worry about batteries / esc smoking/ and the list goes on it is what it is a way to soar like a bird enjoy the world from a different perspective i friggin love mine yes there are issues as with anything tell me something that has been built in the last 60 years that hasn't had any issues/ updates you name EVERYTHING DOES ANYWAY QUIT READING THIS CRAP AND GO F. L. Y . ✌️🤙🤙
Emax Babyhawk 2 GepRC Mark 5 Iflight Chimera 5 Cinbot 30 & 35 Iflight Bob57 Mob 6 Aos anything You get the picture brother 😅 LOVE that last sentence 😃👍🤝
Use real CineWhoops instead of this autodrone. This is mechanical issue, they won't fix it - DJI show the "longest finger" in human hand to Avata pilots
lowered yaw rates --- sub 300 --- have proven to reduce the amount of yaw tumble. Its center of gravity and weak motors make it unable to perform hard yaw snaps.
the issues with the Avata are unacceptable :(
I think it's amazing if used properly like any tool 😅
what issues for example?
ITS NOT A FREESTYLE DRONE ppl should stop to think that way it is terribly wrong
The same thing happened to me and it was unreachable, and lost it completely /:
I installed the Axisflying upgraded frame kit for Avata, and now I can 100% guarantee there is no tumble.
I installed only the axisflying engines and new rotors, its mutch better now, but not gone completely. But Im not afraid anymore to crash the drone :D
@@danielp948so upgrade motor is the solution?
lol that’s not true, washout afflicts all little quads, it’s physic, science not a DJI issue.
great video sorry about your loss you got my sub
thanks:) ye shit happens:(
Hello, there. We are sorry about the crash. May we know if you have submitted a repair case?
Is this real dji support?
@@CinematixNL Yes. May we have your case number so that we can ask the relevant team to follow your problem asap? Thanks in advance.
I dont have any case right know. I checked the website and cant find the option to make one.
Had a very similar issue a few weeks back, but was able to hit the panic button before impact and it saved the drone before impact. Curious to see how this turns out for you. Just subbed, hopefully it goes well dude 🤟
@@rossmandrone im happy for u u could save it😊 , in my case i was to low i think. And bad luck there was water. Somehow i dont trust the avata anymore now. Never had this😮 thanks for the sub❤
The same thing happened to me! So frustrating
Do you have video before impact?
I just lost my avata on the river of my city. I'm so sad. It lost control by himself using the motion controller. I'm so upset that can't even post the video on RUclips.😢
Damn, thats rough
It's a known issue, though I wouldn't necessarily label it a bug-it's more a matter of physics. The drone is top-heavy, so when you perform a yaw motion at high speed while pitching down, it's prone to tumbling
yes same issue got for me also crashed
100% tumble from my eye sight. If you love free style. I think 3.5 upgrade kit from Axis is your right choice.
But... this kit will broke your all warranty from DJI support. I'm using the 3.5 kit and from my perspective it's better than original in everyday. Except a little bit shorter battery life
lol, if you "love freestyle" you don do anything with de avata. Just skeep it and get a freestyle kwad.
@@totyrain Personally I'm not that hardcore freestyle fans that's why I choose avata to be my first quad.
And the freestyle quad is not that friendly for beginners like me. That's avata came in. BTW Avata itself has tumble issues. So for the middle line like me who wants the easy to use quad but it can do some freestyle either Avata 3.5 is the perfectly fit for what I want 🌞
Seriously? DJI has not fixed the I-term windup problem yet? 😆
Bummer. Sorry. Have lost a few in my time.
Avata doesnt like fast turns it crashes. It's overweight. Simply use it for cineshots and bought cinwbot 35 or 30 instead
Vortex ring state.
Why ? 😂
Maybe you should use Avata as a Cinewhoop; has a lot of problem when you push hard it.
He wasn’t pushing that hard at all…
@@Dah_J not until the fast 180 snap
Yeah that sharp yaw turn got you good, shame about the drone.
Yes :D , im scared to use the dji avata again. never above water atleast. :(
I fly over water all the time with it, just got to understand the drones limitations. Best of luck with the next one
@@CinematixNL have you tried the guards upgrade from axisfly, apparently fixes this issue plus the motors
@@hombredelfuturo_888no i didnt😢
Not a freestyle drone my friend ,😅
This bug left my avita to drop out the sky and dent my brand new car 😞
My Avata works 100. %. Excellent ,……..never lost signal perfect gadget with me for almost 2 years
Do you did flying like video above and its ok?
My condolences
Can't believe DJI is still selling the Avata with this very serious/dangerous issue. Should be recalled smh.
There was an update at least 8 or 9 months ago which should’ve fixed the issue. This is really the first time this calendar year I’ve seen somebody bring this up.
@@jamestravis21 afaik the issue has been reduced, but not eliminated. The only people who have reported the problem going away entirely are the people who have changed to the axisflying mod for the avata. Surprised you haven't heard it being brought up again. If you have been closely following the issue the past year, you'd know that many others have reported the issue still exists even after update and the consensus was that virtually no amount of tuning would fix it. As an (bad) analogy, it's like fixing a car that is not aerodynamic with a software update to fix the aerodynamics. Ok so it's a bad analogy, but forgive me haha.
I can get my Mini 3 drone to drop the same way. 0:24 that swift turn where the drone must slow-down sideways seems to drop the inner-front propeller where sometimes the tilt is large enough to have the drone shut off the propellers. Literally I can repeat that crash every 3 seconds if I had a mini 3 to repeatedly crash for science. You can fix the problem with different flying techniques but I'm no flight instructor, I assume there will eventually be a firmware update that can better prevent the flips.
Estás diciendo que mi mini 3 pro puede fallar en el aire? Me lo explicas mejor porfavor si no es molestia? I Hope RUclips translator helps
@@tetto3226 Yes, when you are in S mode at high speed & if you slow down too fast sideways then the drone dips/falls. It will catch itself most of the time but you can force it to accidentally turn off the props due to the tilt angle being too high.
Gracias por la explicación, no puedo permitirme perderlo, cada vez que lo vuele recordaré tu comentario, gracias@@SlackerU
shame dji dont know how to fix it for 2 drone AVATA 1 and 2
I got mine just for altitide hold for occasional smooth property filming i have quads for most situations. But its not right people have paid so much for this drone from a highly profitable company for it to sketch out on a yaw spin. The amount of avatas destroyed and property damaged from this defect with no real care from dji is rubbish. They will just bring out another one for everyone to spend on and forget the avata.
That's a normal bug, had it twice now and it makes the avata so unsafe for flying above water or trees. DJI doesn't seem to have a chance to fix it, what's the reason why i think it will stay.
The reason is most likely the prop guards blocking the air, and or the weight. I think it would be hard to fix it in a update, the main thing they could do is just reduce the rates so it turns way slow
The axisfly upgrade aparently fixes this issue they say
@@hombredelfuturo_888 nope it doesnt
@@PitsFlyingEye 😅
@@PitsFlyingEye why is that
You're freestyling a top heavy underpowered cinewhoop. There is your problem.
Good thing is, DJI now has fixed this bug. Now the drone wil just flip itself over again and hover in normal mode (basically automatic emergency brake) when this happens
most of the time, not always
This happened to me the first time I tried manual mode. I tried to roll into a dive and the drone said not today.
it's a workaround. not a fix. also it does not brake every time
oh yeah that's a real "fix" ....
Yaw washout
That’s a washout nothing strange
Luckly it was above grass, not water.... 😅
It fell in the water in between the grass. It did not survive 😪
@@CinematixNL noooooooooo way.... Really????? :( Sad for you, bro....
The Avata was designed to be a whoop style drone. Not a freestyle drone, that maneuver you attempted Is done with a free style drone. Not a cinewhoop.
people do feeestyle with cinewhoops all the time just fine why would this be an different
@eminstinct4114 there is a yaw twitch issue with alot of ducted drones on dives. But yea shouldn't flip over and crash. I have one that like either twitch on yaw or twitch up on pitch .
DJI has fails with Avata. It has a lot of problems. Many bugs on FC they don't want to admit nor resolve (some of them really dangerous). Bad aerodynamic design. If you lose HD signal, automatically you lose RC signal as well. For the same price, there are better choice on the market.
Dead Roll
Yaw Bug so for real
Thats an error made by dji´s BAD aerodynamic design of the avata. u will get that problems forever. they cant fix it by patching, because its a mechanical thing. the only thing the can do, and did is, to airbrake and switch to normal, if the avata senses this crash moment.
happy flying, stay safe - but u never loose that issue on your overpriced and bad designed product ^^
ye its sad:(.. thanks for your reply!
its more of a feature than a bug (less power, but more battery time), its not acrobatic drone, you cant do such high speed yaw turns with negative roll
@@dnch nope, its bad design. check the priciple of a ducted fans - and u understand, what happens ^^
@@fellpower well ducted fans have some advantages too, like efficiency (more thrust, battery lasts longer, capable of taking off with more weight), safety, durability, not saying avata is perfect, but there are some compromises in the design that swing both ways.. but if the tumble happens even in normal / sport mode with motion controller, that is something they should adress
Get a real fpv 😂
You can not make such tight turns with the avata. It has to be slow, wide turns. Stop doing tricks with it. Thats how you destroy it. Get a real FPV quad if you want to do that
Nice flight till boom i think everyone misses the mark that this really isn't a "freestyle type " drone its part cinewoop and a smidge of freestyle. Ithink it does both for the average flyer yes a little pricey but very reliable dont havento worry about batteries / esc smoking/ and the list goes on it is what it is a way to soar like a bird enjoy the world from a different perspective i friggin love mine yes there are issues as with anything tell me something that has been built in the last 60 years that hasn't had any issues/ updates you name EVERYTHING DOES ANYWAY QUIT READING THIS CRAP AND GO F. L. Y . ✌️🤙🤙
Emax Babyhawk 2
GepRC Mark 5
Iflight Chimera 5
Cinbot 30 & 35
Iflight Bob57
Mob 6
Aos anything
You get the picture brother 😅
LOVE that last sentence 😃👍🤝
Avata is a POS. I got a Cinebot30 and it's a quantum leap over the avata.
Use real CineWhoops instead of this autodrone. This is mechanical issue, they won't fix it - DJI show the "longest finger" in human hand to Avata pilots
That's expected to happen in manual mode! You are not a good pilot.
why is this expected to happen in manual mode? the point is, this shouldnt happen in manual mode.
Buy real FPV quad that you can fix your self for a few dollars. DJI fpv quads are basically not even acknowledged by the FPV community.
the fpv community is also pretty snobby about it which kinda sucks. stop being gatekeepy
Renaming “arco” to whatever they call it too is just weird