8K VR Headset from China - BS marketing, very cool experience…
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2017
- Wait... you can get an 8K VR HEADSET!? Well... sorta...
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It should have had one lens in 7K and another 1K
1080p vr
Daddy chill
1k?
Do you know how things work?
Gabbers it’s a joke.
Poor Linus. Had to go into work on Sunday to play games in 4k x 2 VR.
lmao i know right
Seems like you think this is all fun and games. It's not as fun as you think it is. There is legit boring work that goes into Therese videos. Fuck off
runninggames771 Like any job, there are plenty of frustrating things you have to put up with, but while you do have to produce video, I wouldn't necessarily call that boring, and I would happily take his job at any time.
youre a fucking idiot.
get a job kid.
The term 4k itself is misleading. If they continued the same naming conventions as previous resolutions, it would be called 2160p. It's kinda infuriating.
Yeah 4K is actually over 8 million pixels, closer to 9m, so it's annoying they use it to mean Horizontal resolution, which I can see why they call it "8k" disregarding the vertical. But it's a very stupid naming scheme. 2K, or 1440p, shouldve been 4k and 4k shouldve been 8k. But marketing. HD is not even the right standard at 3840, 4K is by definition 4096.
Well I mean 3800 is pretty much you know
@@sakazu2576 goddamit stop capitalizing every single word
Sonny12681 well it’s also how America does things.
@@sakazu2576 bullshit, the human focal width is tiny compared to a computer display
Legend has it that some people who ordered when this video was posted are still waiting for their order even though they paid back then
Are you the bf1 God?
Should call it the hammer head
lol just posted that XD...hammer head shark
IT would look cool if the VR headset looked like Dead Space helmet.
thought the same lol
Was going to say that but you said it first :)
George Robles yeh haha
They need to rebrand it as HammerHeadVR
XD
I would be down with that name. But only if it includes Shark simulator.
nt1220
That would actually be genius.
How about shark tank simulator where you sit as a judge on Shark Tank and judge other players shitty ideas
Very funny kermit
5:34 "Scent Enabling Module" u WOT m8
kinda stinky
Lmao
You got a loicence for that comment
Why did they make the headset Genji's mask
It’s a hammerhead shark tho not anything else
@@akmcg you dont play overwatch
GS Felix cool
GS Felix I'm saying the headset looks like a Hammerhead shark when it's on
GS Felix and you play fortnite yikes
“Someone” dropped them
IcicleShank yes
IcicleShank and that someone is linus
@Meme Police what why?
That's why the controllers are so light they probably don't have batteries, as it is wired
Those are not the controllers,the controllers will be Valve knuckles based in design.
darker seventy he's saying the reason why those controllers were so light is because that specific prototype doesn't have batteries.
Fair enough,interesting development over at Pimax forums,they made a suggestion if you wanted pads on the controllers or sticks,now it seems you can chose either option if you ordered the controllers.
Pimax are going all out with the community it's like the Star Citizen of VR :)
Maybe there's nokia battery in it
I really love how you bring your sponsors in yours videos! It might be the only ones I watch AND listen.
LINUS! You guys should review Pimax 5k and 8k again! A lot has changed on software and hardware side!
they should call it the hammerhead!
Nyda That would actually be a great name for this thing.
It needs a dope name cause I think it looks pretty cool...better than the other competitors even...
Pimax sounds like some bullshit... but pimax HAMMERHEAD! sounds dope af
It looks like if Genji got the Taunka treatment. Taunka = Tauren with their face crashed against a wall. XD
The name immediatly reminded me of top gear's Hammerhead Eagle I-Thrust :D
Yeah and I call my 20/20 vision 40....
Richard Lynch 👆🏽this comment
Looool
Should call it 1. lol 20/20=1
You too?
20/20 actually means you have similar vision at 20 feet as the average person has at 20 feet
I'd love to see a 2019 review of this product.
There will be the Pimax 8kx released soon, can´t wait for it! :)
How about 2020
Or 2020
Or 2021
linus: calling it 8k is a bit misleading
also linus: *puts 8k in the title*
To be fair, because they sent it to him to review, I'm pretty sure he's bound to call it by what they call it. Even though he said the name was questionable and misleading.
If you can't read, he also said BS marketing in title, because the company is marketing it as 8k
It literally says "BS marketing...."
@@alecsanchez9755 does it really?
@@hayden7520 are you blind or what?
at 2:55 linus transforms into Genji.
he requires healing
Noah George Running in sandals must be painful
No I'm real genji
He also kinda looks like Cyclops from X-Men.
What a gayji
not a bad cosplay there
Some more accurate info:
- Won't run at 90hz, only around 85hz is confirmed
- The controllers have changed, now more like Valve Knuckles using capsense sensors, though not 100% locked down
- Controllers now optional for backers to get thumbsticks and/or pads
- The cooling fan module isn't only "trippy", it keeps you cool and helps to reduce motion sickness
- Linus is spot on about oled vs lcd though lcd panels have had recent jumps in the tech making them a decent quality option for VR (maybe only option here as never seen a 4k OLED)
- CLPL (screens) stands for 'Customized Low Persistence Liquid' display. This could just be a marketing term also, won't know until we see them
F4CEpa1m x_0 sounds like ur the dev
M Dunbar yeah that's right, I'm currently living in China developing the Pimax headset.. Totally
听起来挺棒的:D
"Only" 85 Hz...
considering 90 hz used to be the standard with crt monitors, yeah, only 85 hz
8K is too pixely, I want 16K
instagram.com/skholinn
Wait 3 years.. or longer. We'll see.
Kholin Saveliy still to pixel, they need 32K
I imagine foveated rendering.
Nah bro 128k is where its at
5000 subs with no video challenge still little. 256K is where it’s at
2 times 4K is 8K reminds some time ago when I was shopping new TV for a dad and he asked the seller what 4K means and he said "its 4 times better than what you have at home" :D
Gabriel Divine
1080p (typical HD) is 4x worse than 4K, 8K is 4x better than 4K and what Linus was saying is that 2x 4K is misleading because it’s not true 8K, do the seller was correct.
Gabriel Divine You fucking idiot, 1920 times 1080 is about 2 million pixels, 4K (3840 times 2160) equals around 8 million pixels, so actually you go back to school, learn to use a calculator then go home and research your shit.
@@Saltoulious so much hate in you, no wonder your ex left you
Lmao Gabriel deleted the reply because he realized how stupid he sounded.
The other guy was right about 4k being 4x 8k, but that's not why "8k" in the title is misleading. A headset with two 4k screens is just a 4k headset. It doesn't make sense to add the resolutions together.
Claimed as 8k, feels like 4k, actually 1440p
except at the start of the video he says that it takes a 1440p input and its "upscaled" to 4k
Still a lot more than all the shitty 720p and 1200p VR headsets...
Ok so for the people who do not understand. It has two 4K screens wich gives you a combined resolution of 8K. It renders 1440 PER screen which gives you a combined resolution of approx. 4K. So the 2 screens combined render at 4K upscaled to 8K. They sell true 8K headsets but almost noone would be able to run it without 2x 1080TI's. It's upscaled to 8K to so you have almost no screendoor effect! And with the added eye tracking, that's now freely added in the KS, it will hopefully be possible to do foveated rendering in the future.
Delta Novum No, 8K would be 4 (2^2, because 8/4 = 2 and it's in 2 dimensions) times a 4K screen. This would more accurately be called 2160p in 32:9 aspect ratio.
The normal version is still upscaled from 1440p, though I don't know whether it's scaled from 16:9 or 32:9, but I sure as hell hope the latter.
I did some research and you are correct. It's very confusing with the naming conventions they use. For the people who want to know the difference in pixels. 8K= around 33M pixel, 4K= around 8,3M pixels. The Pimax 8k Renders around 7,4M pixels and it's output is around 16,6M pixels. So it renders at around 4K but the output is around half of that of 8K. Which to me is still very impressive.
I can't wait until Oculus or HTC come out with their 2nd gen headsets. I think this will pressure them into working on them sooner, rather than sitting on the current gen for awhile. I think wide fov and higher resolution will be widely available from one or both before 2020.
You were wrong 😁
Just received mine today and it performs really well! Thanks for this video it actually helped alot.
i actually bought an IFixIt pro tech tool kit because of you guys, and it really helped me building my first computer, thank you :)
FINALLY. I've been seeing this 8K VR Headset going around on youtube for a while and no one actually has pointed out that 2 4k screens don't make an 8k screen. Thank you Linus
Murathan Şimşek 2 upscaled screens
shadowreaver752 upscaled or native depending on your purchase.
I agree, several reviewers including 'Tested' have failed to call it out, however Facepalm from Grid VR has pointed it out as early as Sept 15th here:
ruclips.net/video/S30YRo-UJVs/видео.html
Nothing to do with amount of screens used since you can use multiple panels aligned seamlessly for display creation.
The reason why its not 8K is because its resolution is 7680×2160 instead of being 7680×4320
Thank you captain obvious, don't know what I would do without you. Read the comment again it says " 2 4K screens " when dealing with 4K screens you need at least 4 screens to achieve 8K. That's what i meant
*he drops it*
Wouldn't be surprised
dedication, working on the weekend. Linus knows success!
Love your videos Linus. Very informative.
You can tell Linus is trying to be nice since the rep is probably standing right there
David Koenig or it’s a cool idea and he has faith the devs can pull this off.
How do you kno the chinas rep is there
Optic500
He said they flew out to bring him the stuff, implying they are there.
He just states the pros and cons. What he likes about it and what he doesn't like/needs more work.
Rep is not there. He tries his best when sponsors provide their equipment via overseas. Why risk Linus critiquing the sponsored products? It's free publicity, especially for early prototypes.
That new Genji skin looks lit af
Thanks
LTT af
Has anyone here even used VR? Everyone hating doesn’t even understand how awesome this is.. who care what resolution, it’s just ten steps beyond what oculus has. Fov and 4K wow... the immersion is what matters..
The res is a key factor in immersive experience. Also this headset is to ahead of itself. I mean look at how the controllers dont pair, they need to fix things like this
Wittit ? They did fix it. I haven’t had any friends complain. They just say it’s a beast and you have issues running high res with lower end cards. 2080ti is needed at the least for maximum pixels
Pimax = Chinese-branded vr headset
@@waqidj at the least? Why? What do you recommend better than that?
All I know is I bought a galaxy gear for my galaxy S9 and I watched vr porn for the first time.....omg I feel like I actually cheated on my wife....it's insane! Well that's my experience.
I've been using a pimax 2k for a long time now, since shortly after they came out - and it's preferred for some games by far. For example Elite Dangerous, the difference in pixel density makes text readable and the game look so, so much better - it's virtually unplayable on my vive. It didn't support motion controls at the start, so I use a vive for games like superhot or others that require motion controls still, but the Pimax has been great for ED and I did deal with their customer support once, to which I mailed them the device and they mailed me back a new one right away - pretty awesome imo. I'm looking forward to their 8K release, but I'll probably buy the 5k model - glad they've pushed up the release date to nail down the few remaining bugs.
RGB does REALLY improve performance! My NVIDIA GeForce GTX1080 with RGB runs games way better than my old AMD R9 290X without it!
lols
oh thats why my rx480 sucks, it only got white LEDs....
My RX480 has RGB... Does that make it go faster?
KuraIthys Yes, it does. The indicated cortex memory index will adjust the power settings for the LEDs, also thus improving the power output of the MssD pins.
only if you are drunk
Yay 8K.... :|
The tape on the center strap was mine lol
First layer of blue painters tape followed with some black electrical tape on top
no you didn't, I did.....
boop
Actually I did it not you...
Nope nope you’re all wrong, I did it.
Yup Patrick Star did it
Thanks for including the unwatchable space pirates gameplay 😂
April 2020, 8kX is close to production, they realy didnt rush it and i cant wait to get one! :)
"Somebody" drop LOL
LinusTunnelbearTips
I know it's prototype v2, and they'll have up to protoype v4, but it's a great proof of concept, and have compatibility with other hardware is the way to go to keep initial cost down. I'm excited to see where this goes
I have a Pimax 5k plus and it is great. They are now sold on Amazon and have a USA office. Can take a second look and talk about how it works comparing it to other VR headsets on the market.
Well, as flight sim guy (DCS, etc... ) this thing is huge in flight sim community with steam compatibility as with current gen VR you couldn't differentiate cockpit instruments or if that dot in distance is a tree or a tank :D, so I do not care about room scale, justgive me pixels and FOV and I am in! Actually own much older PIMAX 4k and it is better for me than Vive/Rift (owned Vive until returned and had experienced Rift at friend's house).
As a Sim racer, i would say exactly the same thing! I tried the Oculus once and while it was awesome, it could be better (higher FOV).
Yep, sim racer and IL-2 and ED player here. We want resolution badly. We're willing to pay whatever it costs. I'm looking more at the Samsung Odyssey right now.
I think this is what a ton of channels miss out, they play these crappy roomscale games that can run off a cell phone. This headset should be great for cockpit VR.
Yeah. Flight gamer here. I'm building a small simulator and I REALLY want VR for looking around the cockpit, but I cant justify it until we get some goddamn pixel density. Will work for image clarity.
I'm sure many people fly their spitfire in VR.... and the extra resolution will help... with the general effort.
4K + 4K doesn't equal 8K lol
4k x 4k = 8k logic
but this is 2 x 4k so its not 8k
4k + 4k = weird-k xD
Shut the fuck up
Chinese logic. - o -
Wow that is so cool , can't wait until I try it.
We need another review of this thing with eyes and hand tracking, what looks at the first moment awesome
@CNLohr: You and a few others in the Open Source area reverse engineered the HTC Vive which resulted in this: github.com/cnlohr/libsurvive Now Chinese companies are using the tech to build follow-up products. I am not saying this is bad and I am not saying this is good. Just letting you guys know, that actually RUclipsrs did the hard work of reverse engineering this, not the guys from that Chinese company.
Lol the first PC I bought was advertised at PC World as having a 7.4 GHz processor (it was a 3.2 GHz dual core) and 2 GB of RAM (it had 1 GB of DDR2 RAM)...
That reminds me of a cheapo electronics show I went to. This is back when mp3 players were all the rage. Every where you'd see them advertised as mp4, mp5, mp6, etc players. I guess they thought people would think the higher number meant it was better. Sadly, some probably did.
+Roland K wow sounds like one hell of a scam lol.
"get the mp3 player for 99$, or upgrade to mp6 for only 149,99$!!"
"sounds like an amazing deal! give me the mp6!!"
I cant be the only one that realizes... 3.2+3.2=/= 7.4 lol ... Even if it worked that way it would be 6.4ghz
Jess Castro Sssshhh. We all know PC World uses *magic software* that makes your pc ten times better
lmao
Linus calls going to his huge office to play vr and tell jokes “work”
Well it is his primary source of income, and he has todo that to get views and therefore money, so it is work
Danitron I’m just saying a lot of people would kill to do that
That's why I wanna get a job there
Managing a business, he isn't just the host even then of course it's work? He comes into work puts himself infront of millions which is mentally draining, managing tons of employees, getting sponsors, writing scripts which he still does a lot of even now, making sure all the tech is working which there is always problems to be solved and people to be called and more stuff I don't even know about, he's the fucking boss, entire livelihoods are decided by how well he does his job, he has tons of employes. It just is work. so shitty to just say this ain't work man, just put some thought into it, on this day he didn't just come in play some VR then go home.
@@Anipixelz exactly
Hey Linus, Nice to see your still with us! Interesting review, how trusting can you be to buy from Pimax? I hear there is no customer service if something goes wrong.
You should totally do a video on the windows headsets would love to see what ya think of em!
I am waiting for a lot of other companies to join vr market to speed up development and to decrease the price a bit so I can keep both of my kindneys
Well thanks to MS, you will be seeing low-end VR headsets ("MR"). Samsung, HP, Lenova, Acer, and Dell are releasing HMDs soon.
www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/collections/vrandmixedrealityheadsets
They have a high price point, for now, but I don't doubt once everyone sees how far inferior they are to the Rift/Vive, they will go down in price to around the $200 range.
Crazy! Can you say "Ready Player One" I can't wait for this!
My first time watching one of your videos. Very articulate. Very well done. Two thumbs up. Can you do a review of the LUCI IMMERS? Wondering if it's the real deal...
You look like Genji with that
Granzu™ -_ GFX _- lul
I need healing
Mada mada
Gay
_Oof_
Despite the issues, he still recommends sweating it out for further development on higher resolution VR.
I think that speaks volumes.
Me in 2020: wow VR has come such a long way since then.
Also me watching this video: I think Google Cardboard is better.
do you have brain cancer?
@@matsgilon7075 possibly
mad, great gift idea at the end got me, its 11th December lol
i like how he says "your wife or your boyfriend", he knows he ain't marryin' yo' ass
Gray Dog he's married
This is so hard core
That my wallet won't be able to handle it
N00B EXPLOITS LOL
but you don't have a wallet
But Roblox isn't in VR, judging by your profile
you can play roblox in VR, its just the controlling is wacky
N00B EXPLOITS haha
I can't wait for this to come out, I hope I can get decent framerates with a 1080ti, hopefully the pimax x will be playable
This does seem amazing tbh I can handle a cord and motion sickness but I recommend a longer cord because of fast paced combat such as Pavlov you might be able to trick it to think it’s oculus to play echo vr to not break your laptop
2 videos today?
yes
Dobble upload
the other one was sponsered
yea boii
my thoughts exactly, and I loved both lol
Hope Sony is taking notes. We want wider FOV and higher pixel density! Oh yeah, and the hardware to run it! lol
You will probaly need way more pwer to backthat up
PS5
@@nowonmetube yer around 2020 the PS5 comes out, also new psvr too. for what i've herd
and we want the headset to look like a cool pair of sunglasses
instead of making us look like we got the Phoenix lights UFO strapped to our head
Build a pc. Vive can run on a Nvidia 1060, but you can get a 1070 much cheaper than a year ago
Yes finally somebody who doesn't watch movies, I find my self in my own heard and branching off from the script. Are you super creative as well?
I like my Oculus for now but am excited to upgrade to the next gen in the future because VR is just awesome!
bye bye real life. we had fun times
m ・ ́ω・ I say that every time a great new game comes in the mail, then about 2-3 weeks pass and I'm like where tf am I ?
screw real life, nothing but disappointment. I'll see you guys in the virtual world
see you guys in the Wired
oops still gotta pay the electric bills
Looks like the Payday 2 VR headset.
What are you talking about? Payday 2 VR trailer has a Vive...........
I thought the same thing
That one is called StarVR
@EVOLICIOUS He didnt mention the trailer. He said the Payday 2 VR headset. The one in the game.
Yeah, there is literally an in-game mask thats a VR Headset.
Showing results for Pimax
*Did you mean Paymax???*
ha
XD
baymax
[]-)
*gaymax*
*Awesome* as always
Nobody agrees with the title, but it's been a well known marketing ploy to anyone who knows VR and has half an ounce of sense. Still very cool stuff. Yay, the fuuuuuuuuuuuuture!
Most people agree with the title. Its the name of the item followed by bs marketing. what else do you want
I want a cookie. No nuts. Blah.
He kinda looks like he's wearing Genji's Sentai skin XD
More like carbon fiber...
Decidueye Main this is why hats are better
yes! Future VR headsets are gonna make us look like Pyramid-head guy from Silent Hill...
I don't speak virgin, English pls
Hentai suit
Since I’m not much of a techie (yet), it’s kinda mind boggling. And I must say it’s SCARY COOL, but I’d be excited to have or use one!
Any moment they will start shipping to the backers, they improved the headsets a LOT. Watch SweViver’s Pimax videos
I feel like a freaking... you know... I don't know...
i dont know
if you dont know, i dont know, you know.
Genjo main
NSYNC-bye bye bye
Parody
Marionette
Play KARTONG - Death By Cardboard! on this :D Can't wait to hear how it looks with that much FOV
surprised not to see any comments on the fact those lighthouses are obviously rehoused HTC lighthouses, the front plastic still even has the rounded edges
I'll take that when you're done with it. Thanks Linus
4+4 is 8-4 that's 4-quick maffs
Take man Twix by force
No steam, no steam sales
NO it's 2+2 is 4-1 that's 3 quick maffts
Dead meme
Dude its 9+10
The VR headset looks like it came *from Deadspace.
Thanks for sharing. Greetings from James J in Limerick city Ireland
Well, vive pro is coming soon. I’ll wait for that(i can’t wait for the vive pro!)
Did Culton mess up again so there were 2 video's
its a feature
just kidding it was intentional
I' think his name is Colton :D
I never said I was an English major
Its a free DLC
5:00 Damn. I thought it was going to drop, i had like 2 mini heart attack.
I have tried fixing my phones before and only been semi-successful once. I appreciate Ifixit and their kits. $60 is a hefty amount of money for stuff that comes with most kits for free. Next gen of VR will be cool for those enthusiastic enough to get it. I doubt I will get into it.
Absolutely fantastic
Turns you into Lissandra from League of Legends
bobmakki1 haha lol
program lisandra
Tibor Varga noone cares
Leander Jac no need for that
you got room for another person in that headset?
Kinda wish you were given this headset to review earlier because I can't even contribute to this kickstarter since its finished
hummbug72 It is probably a good thing because now you can buy the finished project, if - and only if - they fix the current flaws.
there have been videos about this headset for i think about a year. if you want to be up on the latest vr news you have to look for some better sources than linus tech tips
The correct unit to measure the resolution of the VR headgears is PPI. Eye has a PPI of around 2200. HTC vive pro, which is the best available on the market at this moment is 615. Google is working on a 1443 one.
re text: If it has a mode that shows 1:1 pixels by using just the center of the larger resolution panel (getting rid of peripheral vision) then it will look like a nice large desktop monitor. That would be handy.
Can you see the rgb pixels? I can see them in the vive and oculus
im pretty sure the screendoor refers to that. so probably not
Remember this is from 2017, they improved alot!
I'm considering buying pimax 5k+
8k is not possible for pc.
To much demanding with the high end Gpu
Considering SLI or NVLINK? it's barely working on games...
And how many people are buying a high end pc that begins at minimum $1500+
lol you would need 2x 2080ti to run modern games at 90+ fps at 8k. Since it isnt real 8k, it'll probably work but ypu're looking at 2500 just for the video cards.
@@LouSaydus nah dude have you seen it struggle playing games like Minecraft in 8k so I don't think you can play on 8k
*3090 enters the chat*
I love the intro!
I have an 8K X (had an oculus rift S before) and it's amazing. But needs a lot of performance
Yeah, 8k but...
Where are the RGBs?
Behind the front slit window. And yes, they're considering adding Cylon/KITT-style swinging lights in there.
The RGB is shot directly into your eyes.
I can finally watch the 8k vr porn I've sold my soul for
josh Subet Complete with ziplock bag so you can suffocate yourself when the guilt becomes too much.
I'd love to see an updated review of the 8K X paired with the RTX 3080/3090 !
It is time for a follow up ! or another cheap ( and good ) VR set !
Because i want to buy a VR set soon ;-)
7:00 thats why we have VR treadmills
Linus: you need a beast to run 2:43
The pc at 5:32 wow what kind of a beast
He was saying you need an insane computer for the 8k X, which is not the one he reviewed here.
I think this is going to kick ass when its finished.
I like that he keeps his sponsors short