How Volkswagen revolutionised Diesels, but nobody cared - the GTD.
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- There was a time when Diesel was something to be scoffed at - but when Volkswagen decided to show everybody that Diesel could be so much more, nobody listened. What would happen was a diesel revolution, the likes of which we're slowly losing.
I see these around Tenerife all the time, it seems not a single owner ever sold their GTD, which is a testament to how fun and reliable these were!
To be fair if we had one we wouldn’t either 🙈
Old VAG diesels are precious 1.9 TDI , 1.6 TD , 1.9 SDI , 1.7 SDI, bulletproof engines . In Serbia and Bosnia lots of Golf 2/3/4 diesel they still run , even if their chasis is roting from inside .
Are there any 1.9 TDI AFN Golf 3 / Passat B4? I want one for my Passat
@@Simon_r2600 Ebay is the way to go for parts
@@iosifd2409 Yeah but i would need a whole passat because of the electrical wiring
@@Simon_r2600 What kind of issues you get with wiring, breaking old insulation on wires or rotten copper? Engine wiring harness from ecu to sensors and pump is kinda cheap. Probably 1Z 90hp engine harness will also fit, because engine in fact has minor difference at injector tips and turbo, n75 valve, pistons/rods etc, but not electrical-wise. (1z from B4 as example, but not from audi 80 b4, pump wiring can differ).
@@gloff8163 Yeah, i currently drive a 1Z. I would really prefer a whole AFN Passat instead of making a mess with all the wiring by myself, but i take what i can get my hands on. Well, the 1Z works with pressure and the AFN works with Vaccum, i guess there have to be minor differences?
I have a mk2 GTD turbo diesel. Great car, runs on anything pretty much
I remember in the 1980s Golf I and then II GTDs were driven by cool guys in Italy and France. Good quality, decent pull and GTi handling.
I've had 3 VW Diesels (4 if you count the wifes). I currently have a mk1 Rabbit diesel with the 1.6L (sloooow) and a mk7 Golf 2.0L TDI. My wife drives a 2014 Beetle TDI, and I previously had a mk4 Golf TDI with the 1.9L ALH. All have been excellent cars. It's astounding how they've improved over the years. The difference between my mk1 and my mk4 is only 20 years, yet the driving experience between the two is night and day.
Here in its homeland Germany, the GTDs as well as other early Turbo Diesels sold like sliced bread. Same in France. Main factor was the diesel price - which was / is subsidized in Germany. I had a Passat with the 1.6 TD engine, for its time it was amazing. Very economic, still torquey enough to push the light cars effortless.
I daily a 1981 vw rabbit pickup
With a 1.9 mtdi swap with Land Rover 300tdi 11mm pump.
Fully ported head and manifolds.
Variable turbo.
Upgraded nozzles and a built motor with de-lipped pistons.
And all rotating mass lightened.
Corrado trans with custom gears.
Full ladder frame connectors
And all custom engine mounts
75mpg
3x as fast as when it was new. 1100miles from 14gal tank.
It’s the best daily driver ever
Im from the Balkans, the place of Golf mk2s. My dad owned a german poverty spec one for over 20 years before selling it in 2017 to buy another car, still a turbo diesel. That car made 40kw and we woule often joke how the only electrical thing was the headlights. Anyways fast foward to 2021 where I bough my own Golf 2, but this time it was a GTD. Original old type gtd with 5 doors and a sunroof but previous owner put everything from a newer gtd including intercooled 59kw td and CE2 (which surprisingly was done well). The car is currently at 430tkm and I love it, I drive it everywhere. I have 1.9tdi 66kw from mk3 ready for swap when this one eventually blows up.
How much did you buy the GTD for?
@@xoloman846 I bought it for €750 but I had to do some work to it, like whole new clutch assmebly, gearbox from sdi mk3 golf and bunch of bushings, seals and bearings.
@@neonaffliction oh, you do all that work by yourself? I wanna buy a mk2 but it's hard to find one in decent shape in Balkan that's not 3000-4000€...
I'd love to try working on my but I don't have the place or tools to do so...
@@xoloman846 I kinda got lucky finding this one but with the amount of time and effort I've put into I sometimes doubt that statement, but mostly smaller things that add up. Most of the work I do myself but sometimes I go to a mechanic to do some things for me, depends on what kind, what tools I need and if its worth my time. I work on it in my gravel driveway with basic tools, so nothing fancy going on. I see cars as a thing to drive and fix not just restore and let it sit in your garage, even tho I respect people who keep their car nice.
I love the music of GT4 - Who else loves it ? Thanks for including it - I appreciate it Edit: And the music from GTA2
A video about Irelands love for the Volkswagen Vento in the 90s would be grand.
I am glad the algorithm has brought me here. Great videos.
At 7:21 when you talk about the legendary PD engine the pic in the video is actually a distributor pump pre-PD TDI.
The early MK4 GT TDI used this engine and I have one in my 2001 Audi A3. It is peak small diesel I think, smooth and powerful but simple and reliable, happy to run on biofuels.
Ah balls, that’s what happens when you rush! Cheers for pointing it out :)
never heard about the mk4 GTTDI, in rest of europe i only knew about the Mk4 GTI TDI which came with the PD150 engine, for the mk5 you had the mk5 GT Sport, which had the 2.0 TDI170hp engine, closest we got to a GTD for that year.
the latest GTD is the perfect family hatch. 5liters fuel consumption, 250kmh top speed.
Here in Algeria the golf 7.5 was SOLELY sold in diesel, with old version of the 2.0 TDI 143 in the normal version and 177hp in the GTD and it sold like hot cakes. I do think that it’s the only country in the world where it was sold with those engines.
My daily driver is a MKII 1.6D, best car I've ever owned. Diesel is so much better than gas.
Only found your vids recently, enjoying them, much love from Tandragee
Cheers, love to see local folk tuning in!!
Nice videos man, also like the TDU music in the background on this one
Cheers!! :)
Something about the Mk4 that to me just looks perfect. Like it was carved out of a block of granite quality. I drive the Mk6. I would love a MK4, 3 door GTD tuned to 300+ belting out a plume of coal smoke at any tailgater.
Mk4 is the last honest car vw sold.
Period.
You probably don't know Peugeot: They were earlier than Volkswagen, with even better diesel engines. The Indénor from the 60s/70s and later in the 80s the refined running XUD diesels were the best. VWs were quite noisy in comparison to the XUD diesels. But they were all reliable.
We mention in the video that Peugeot was earlier to the game with the 204, and call the XUD one of the greatest engines ever made. In the 427 fleet we have about 4 309s, a 306, a 405 and a Citroen C15 - we love French stuff too!
There was an MKIII Golf GTI TDI too :)
Not something we got here I think!
1.6 jr bottom end whit a stud kit on crank.
Maxspeeding rods. (Does this job well. I know there are better ones out there. But for the price it does the job)
Stock pistons and rings.
1.9 aaz head , whit arp studs.
0.1 mil shaved off the block.
Mls gasket.
0.29 injector nozzles.
Rebuilt pump whit a larger pump head.
2x gt1241 turbo.
Custom intake and exhaust manifold.
Cyl 1-4 exhaust to turbo 1 , cyl 2 and 3 into torbo 2.
2 intercoolers. One for each turbo.
Turbo 1 feeds cyls 2 and 3 . Turbo 2 feeds cyly 1 and 4.
6 speed tranny from pd150.
At 2 bar max boost setting , and governor modded to regulate at 5.2k rpm , peak tourqe is 250nm at 2200 rpm , peak hp is 180 at 4800 rpm.
Fun ride.
Would love to see ye lads find a 306 Dturbo. All the farm lads had them when we were 17, many many headgaskets were blown from too much boost 😂
I would give one of kidneys to have a mk2 gtd intercooled here in Canada. At least we got any td engines unlike the U.S
Dad’s got a 2.0tdi cr Skoda Octavia vRS mk2 so basically a mk6 gtd but practical great car
it's not "basically" a mk6 but it's not bad!
@@pickle24 built on the same platform with the same length wheel base and both use the same engine just the Skoda has a bigger boot
@@annoymouse890 but skoda is a skoda. has numeorus parts that are lower quality, worse build, worse interior. The car is cheaper for a reason. By your logic you have octavia vrs which is basically a golf so you basically have an audi?😂 apples aren't peaches just cause they're similar bro. your car isn't bad tho just don't go calling it what it isn't
@@pickle24 you do realise how much better the Skoda is built than the mk6 that thing has so many rust problems the seats are made of sandpaper while the Skoda has alcantara and yes the Octavia is a vw golf the same way a supra a90 is a z4
@@annoymouse890 you keep telling that to yourself but the fact of the matter is it's a skoda not a vw regardless of what case you try to make for it
the pd engine was lovely engine very smooth and quiet i had seat toledo 130bhp 6 speed from new
I’ve owned many golfs including a 7.5 GTD. recently though, I started spotting a mk2 badged as GTD parking round my area. Not sure if someone has added the badge to a normal one, I’m no expert on the older models, but it was an interesting spot
9:37 Never expected to hear the GTA Liberty City Stories theme on a Volkswagen Golf video lol.
Already on GTA 2 for ps1 ;)
But still cool...😊
What are you saying? The GTA Liberty City Stories theme song, also known as "The Dark March" was never featured in GTA 2, it was exclusively made for GTA LCS. It's a remix from an original song called "March Popakov" originaly made in the 70's as part of a "Cold War Song Album" made in that decade by John Cacavas.
VW being the peoples car isn't ironic. It's a direct translation!
….yes we know
Strength through Joy.
Digging the soundtrack
How about the mk 2 1.6 TD sb or Ra engine 80 hp diesel with intercooler
Well put together video mate. You just got a sub from me. All the best for the future.
Cheers!! 😁
Whait, I'm from Portugal, over there on the mk4s we have also the gti tdi wich is the 1.9 150hp pd tdi, then on the mk5 we have the gtd wich is a 2.0 pd170.
Those mk2 GTDs with intercooler and 80hp I had one of them, the pistons are more prone to wear when compared to previous models, I put a k24 turbo from previous models in it and blew it, then I put a tdi with a mechanical pump (for inspection purposes) even with the 1.6 gtd it was an awesome car!!!! It had some overheating problems (wich was solved with tdi models).
My take on the GTD badhe is that it's a high spec car (heated seats parking sensors etc etc) if it was a cheap spec when compared to other brands why wouldn't people get it? After all it should come above other good spec cars since we are in Europe, not to mention that we are in Europe and it will be easier to get parts...
Nice job on the production quality. I love the cursing with you and MCM...don't change anything.
Cheers!!
In germany politicians try to do everything to get people away from diesels
But still many people drive diesels and if you drive ~20k km a year a Diesel is still cheaper even tho you pay double in yearly taxes and even the insurance for diesels is higher
People love Diesels so give them Diesels and just give them a Diesel replacement (there are enough fuels that could replace diesel and it's way easier to replace diesel than petrol)
In the early 90s I drove a boosted Golf II GTD around 120ps with different turbo and added an intercooler. For the 90s it was fast, reliable and cheap.
Last Golf I owned was a 2002 3 door TDi GTi with the ARL engine, BBS rims, Xenon. Made around 200ps. Nothing can compare to the smoothness of those PD engines.
My current diesel is common rail which excels in emissions which are a zillion times better, do we really want our neighborhood to smell like candle wax? 😅
My 2.0 TDI MK5 pulls hard, for all intents and purposes it is a GTD, sure it has the normal suspension but 350nm 113kw it pulls hard and is reliable.
2.0 tdi are always reliable until the flywheel fails
The intercooler shoves ice into the intake
The hpfp grenading ($8000fix)
And the dpf which needs replaced every 120,000 miles.
@@fastinradfordable Mine has no DPF, is PD injected they didn't have the intercooler or flywheel problem, 700,000k still good. Original engine and trans.
In the mk3 range you can find gtd and gt tdi models it's the only gen of golf's that you can find both
Must be a europe thing then, we didn't get them here!
On mainland europe they are quite rare. Ive been looking for a good one for a mk2 gtd.
I’m pretty sure we got a GTD in the mk5 in Australia
Mk4 "GT TDI" 150PS models (including 25th anni) are technically GTIs
So is every GTD technically 😂
The first MK4 models to wear the GT TDI badge had the 1.9 VE TDI unit with ASV engine code and were 110hp.
There are GTI TDIs, with ASV VP110 engines all the way through PD115 and upwards. GTI was a trim by then, with the GTD Trim being skipped on the mk4 and mk5, only returning on mk6s. Iirc there were both GT TDI and GTI TDI mk3s, but GTI TDIs were the rarer bunch with better interior trim and the mighty AFN VP110
The mark 4 it was a GTI TDI with a PD 150hp
The mark 3 was GT TDI with a VP 1z 90hp and then later with a VP afn 110hp
I'm from co down and own 2 diesel vw (mk2 jetta 1.6 and mk3 gold sdi) cool to find out more
I had a mk2 gtd SB motor with intercooler fitted into a 3 door gti shell sold it for £1500 back in 2015 how stupid was I
GTDs are relatively rare I'd say. See lots of GTIs, but much fewer of the diesel counterparts.
Didn't know the Golf 4 GT TDI was a thing in the UK. They should've named it GTI TDI like here in Europe. Sounds like an upbadge but it's better than GT TDI for sure.
Always enjoy your story telling
Cheers Steven!! That means so much!
what? Diesel was the greatest revolution in the past 50 years, 90% of EU cars were diesel, petrol was almost extinct at one point, and all this can be contributed to VW, who pushed the TDI.
….did you actually watch the video? Thats literally what we said.
@@427Motorsports yes I did. But I wrote the comment before I watched, because of the title...I am not sure if people didn't care about gtd in the past, in my country GTDs were a cult back in the early 90s...everybody wanted to have one.Can't find any sales figures for old GTDs od GT TDIs
TDU MUSIC❤❤❤
And GTA II❤
Think in Europe, the only real revolution, were the first GTD , in a Golf . First diesel , with a turbo and 80 hp
The only problem with the mk3 GTD/TD vs' the TDI when they were new was that VW limited the F out of the GTD/TD. Just swap the boost pin from a 1.6 and an IC on it and you are knocking at the TDI's HP figure. i Mean it makes sense from VW's point of view it wouldn't look good to sell two cars at the same power figures but at a pretty big price difference
I already knew the existance of the GTD, but never knew it was THAT Short lived, or that it had a Sueprcharged version, or that they "reinvented" the wheel with the GTTDI, lol. Cool! And then a GTD was a boom?? wow!
But I think that you dont know about the VW Golf Mk4.5, in Brazil, with its dubious facelift, (of which I quite like).
Cheers!
Hey man im looking for a small vw owned car any suggestions?
Nice vid - buy yerselves some feckin sweets or sommit.
Ah Guy thank you so much!! That means a lot to us, we really appreciate it :)
@@427Motorsports You know that RUclips is teetotal so ...um ...as you see fit... Mr Guinness !
Kako niko nije brinuo . Pa san momački je to brate moj na Balkanu.
Respect is everything hehe
Great content fella. Onwards and upwards. Pity u are merc lovers... lol. Vw all the way. Bought corrado door of you!
Cdi baby
Vw did not revolutionize diesels.
The 1.6 idi diesel was basically a 1960s tractor.
The tdi was the same block but with piston tops and injector location from the Detroit diesel.
The PD tdi was a straight up 4 stroke over head Detroit diesel
don't the irish just prefer diesels for the red/green diesel?
To be honest, even those who’ve never ran on colourful diesel in their lives over here still love it. It seems to be a part of the culture.
I have a mk3 gt tdi, they better than gtd 🙃
9:40
Liberty city stories
You got it 😎
I would disagree that VW revolutionised diesels. The title for that goes to PSA. Cars like the Citroen BX TZD Turbo, ZX Volcane TD and Peugeot 306 DTurbo were the first popular small sporty diesels.
I mean with a 306 profile pic you would say that, yes
Those may have been popular but they weren’t revolutionary.
@@427Motorsports they were revolutionary, they were the first proper nippy diesels. As far as I can make out the gtd was just a TD golf with nicer trims/paint colours.
Did you watch the video? The TDI wouldn’t come along for another 10 years after the GTD. the PSA turbo diesels 10 years too.
@@427Motorsports the XUD arrived in 1982, and I haven’t finished watching the video yet, but as I see a mk2 golf in the thumbnail, and production started in 1983 for them. I don’t know what your point is
The 1.5L diesel Golf/Rabbit was out in the late 1970’s. I may be wrong on this but I was of the understanding that Peugeot Talbot first tried the XUD in the Talbot Horizon around 1982 before it went into the Peugeot 305 and Citroen BX.
There was also the Vauxhall Astra/Bedford diesel circa 1984.
My first car was a 1983 Mk 1 1.6 diesel Golf. 50mpg everywhere but slow and noisy. Traded it in 2 years later for a 1988 Peugeot 305 GLD estate. Relatively fast in comparison to the Golf and so much more refined. Owned many Peugeot diesels from 1993 to 2007 but come 2017 I was in a 130 PD AVF Audi A4.
We lived through the best era for diesel cars, good on you for making this video 😊
gtd is golf tubo diesel not grand turismo diesel
So you think it’s called the Golf Golf? Really?
you need to Learn how.to pronounce Peugeot.
Not here in Ireland we don’t boyo