he isn't gonna say a word, dude has a wife and kids now, if anything he will silently leave the internet and live off of everything he has built so far
I hope he stays around I love Cody despite what the cancel culture thinks of him. Edit: after seeing how events have unfolded following the initial story coming out I can’t defend him, the evidence has become to damning and don’t want to support him anymore or continue replying to comments 🫶🏽 thanks to those of you who I had good mature discussions with
@@QuickMoDzHDthis is unhinged. We can all acknowledge that cancel culture has gotten out of hand in certain situations. But this situation isn’t one of those, he should 100% be held accountable for this kind of shit.
"Notice these men preying on girls aren't befriending 16 year old boys as their peers? It's almost like they actually understand 16 year olds are children." - Jess Pected
Just because someone doesn't have a favorable personality doesn't mean they are undeserving of respect. Just because someone appears to have a favorable personality doesn't mean they can run away without accountability.
@@igotthefeelsformomonot only that, but this is just an allegation, there’s no evidence of it happening. If it did, he’s a scumbag for it, for sure. But she needs to understand her role in this and how what she did is also unacceptable. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing as well. 17 is old enough to understand that hooking up with someone older than you is NOT OK. Just like if this happened, Cody is a grown man and knew full well she was underage and he decided to do it anyway and that’s wrong. They’re both wrong though. She’s not absolved of her blame if this happened. Don’t support either of them, they’re both garbage.
@@gearzofwar123 I don't understand how you can blame a literal minor for not understanding that it's wrong. the adult in that situation is 100% in the wrong
@@leona344i would say 100 percent the adult is in the wrong especially if it was rpe but if tana agreed and wasnt forced to hook up then it is also kinda her fault but adult is still in the wrong also
"17 is less than 18" that's some brave statements charles Edit: Please please please watch D'Angelo Wallace's video before asking "where's the evidence tho". Yes cody ko is a funny and likable guy on the internet while tana often appears annoying. But don't assume you know what kind of a person someone is just from their online persona. Keep an open mind y'all!
@@BobFudgeethe evidence is that she’s been saying this for YEARS without name dropping Cody, and further is that an entirely different person(gabbie), who also didn’t name drop him, YEARS ago talked about how she was at that same party, pulling an adult away from an underage girl saying she was underage and to stop going after her, and then the dude had sex with the teenager anyways. Literally the exact events, the same party, etc. Brother you are doing some mental gymnastics trying to backwards bend yourself into the ‘no evidence’ thing. You really think a 17 year old coordinated a story with gabbie 8 years ago, agree to not name drop, and specifically bring it up now? Brother you think they were planning 8 years ahead like they were masterminds??? 💀💀
@@BobFudgeei mean u want her to go back in time and record their sexual encounters ? 😭🤦 they have known each other since that age and have been in many vids together , it isn’t too far off
He asked 'Why do I need to point it out that stuff like this is bad'? Something I've been noticing was that a lot of anime have been reflecting this kind of mindset as BAD (coughcough Mushoku tensei) so they could have their cake and eat it too.. Example : The plot of the aforementioned show tries to act like it's 'the MC learned their lesson, sexualizing and taking advantage of children is bad', but in actuality it's not. It leads a lot of people to make excuses for these kind of characters, like Rudy; who straight up grooms, molests, and rapes kids as a ~45 year old grown man trying his best to portray himself as an actual child, so he had a better chance at getting away with the things that he'd done.. Only for the show to try to justify their actions as not bad, or a joke (haha funny 'wake up or ill attack you' while theyre asleep while playing silly music as theyre getting molested); or even worse.. them 'getting better' somehow, even though he has his arms wrapped around his 'wife' he deflowered at 16 (then put the blood stain from the hymen break in his ''shrine'') and in the other, his cousin; both of which he groomed, molested, and raped. It's horrifying thinking about the lengths people will do to justify his actions, not gunna lie. Another example would be a lot of the vtubers (and in general just vtubing popping off) like gura, which is legit an adult acting like a child anime girl towards a mostly adult audience. I remember recently they popped on a screen during a baseball game and sung the pledge of allegiance; only for the adults to think it was just some character from a kids cartoon... can you blame them? I fear for them if they looked them up on google, considering how much their eyebrow would raise in even their promotional art. And you'll still see people defend this kind of stuff by going 'it's fiction' or 'theyre actually 9001 years old so its fine', and those same types of people usually leak into being a big contributor of the same question you're asking now. Why is this related to real life, when it's 'fiction'? Well, I know this is surprising to hear this for some people (especially the ones who will go 'imagine comparing fiction to real life'); while you can't fully compare your opinions on fictional media (just kus you kill people doesnt mean youre gunna do it in real life) to real life, there's definitely some things you can take from someone liking or doing certain things, especially depending on the kind of media you're watching. It's not that I think that someone would become Rapist Rudy because they enjoy stuff like Mushoku Tensei; it's that watching media that sexualizes kids that are under 18, especially one that's incredibly hypocritical in the idea that it tries to act like they're 'getting better but not really because most of the characters, world and even the show itself says otherwise regardless of being one of the main plot points' really helps desensitize people towards these kind of things in the 'wrong' type of way BECAUSE it's fictional, and can use that excuse.. which definitely leaks into the real world due to how popular anime is now. I mean hell, the millitary recruiters at the con I went to legit had multiple Call of Duties to play at their booth to attract potential people to recruit. It's not about them being potential killers, it's about them being more 'desensitized' and 'attracted' towards this stuff. The fact I have to explain this to people who make excuses about it being 'fiction', hits home on the issue I'm talking about. It reminds me of the very people who would argue that it's ''fictional so noone gets hurt'; or who would call others 'tourists' whenever someone pointed out how grotesque it was that they were sexualizing some kid in an anime for the hundredth time or something.. As if that somehow makes you look any better. thank you for my tl;dr ted talk
The craziest part of gabby telling him she was underage is knowing that people are watching what you’re doing, pointing out what you’re doing is illegal/wrong, and then still doing it. How does that not deter you at all
@@purringbluzzmuffin8030the age of consent in Nigeria is eleven, does that make it moral for an 18 yr old to fuck an 11 yr old. I wouldn’t say so, even though it’s technically legal dosen’t mean it’s right and what Cody ko did wasn’t moral or legal
This woman can’t even talk about her abusive childhood because her father would sue her. Then she got dog piled for talking about being approached in an inappropriate manner when she was underage. Likeable or not, that’s really awful and it’s almost like her life has had the tone set where she just can’t come forward with any form of abuse anymore. No one should have to live like that.
True. I remember when bhad bhabie came out about the dr phil ranch that they'd send the problem kids like her to and all the abuse they suffered and alot of people online did support her but a bigger amt didn't and obviously dr Phil's diehard fans could care less. It's a shame. Bring it back even further and you got Courtney Stoddard, who was just fifteen or so when she married an older famous guy (his name's not worth remembering) and all of media and the public slut shamed her. I'm talking big names like Anderson Cooper and in the dms Christie Teagan was telling her to delete herself. This mindset hasn't died of in everyone and that's sad.
@@Vanessa-xx3yzBrooke Shields is another whom always comes to mind, she was 11-years-old during filming of Louis Malle’s ‘Pretty Baby’. Also Paris Hilton at Provo Canyon, Britney Spears…
Also was anyone else slightly thrown off by the constant scat jokes he was making? Dude might be even more perverse than we know. Every scenario he ever joked about had literal shit brought up for no reason
@@STANKGOD-420”it’s not a nothing burger that someone squeezed out of their asscheeks” literally a minute and 15 seconds in Charlie says this, come on.
The problem with "17 is basically 18" is that 18 is the MINIMUM age of consent. It is ALREADY at the limit. There is no room to shave that down; it's actually already kind of a danger zone to be sleeping with 18 year olds if you're 25. And if it really is that close, wait.
It’s a vicious cycle of deniability, as well, because 16 is also “basically” 17. And what’s basically 16? 15. 14’s not that far from 15. But 13’s “basically” 14, too. It doesn’t end; it’s a silly defense for this 💩
@@johnhenry4844 Do you have a response to the argument, though? Apart from that, why does a minor having intimacy preciously make it okay for an adult to do it with them? That’s the average age, by the way. Don’t exaggerate.
@@quesadilla9957 What’s the difference then, who cares, acting like tana was untouched and innocent at 17 is ridiculous, age of consent is 16 in my country and girls always fling themselves at older guys then cry about it at 30, pathetic take responsibility for spreading legs
@@johnhenry4844 having sex with dsomeone your age is different than having sex with someone way older than you, specially when you are this young and easy to manipulate.
@@merlin3 Cody Ko said the nword multiple times, and released an apology that was locked behind a paywall so most of his audience wouldn't see it, or hear about it.
FYI Charlie Penguinz0 is FAKE , me and my friends kept telling him to cover Tana Cody ko for month now, he even saw our insta Stories sent him All proofs & he ignored it ! He’s only speaking now after D’angelo exposed the commentary RUclipsrs for not speaking & protecting their friend Cody ko
So much of his vids would age with milk if anything like this was posted on moist, probably was always the spineless nerd tho so not very likely I guess
I mean back then he wasn't like this online sooo he definitely hasn't changed regardless of allegations, it's good he talks about shitty men online that's doesn't exactly get negated just because you suddenly conveniently hate a person, but idk since I haven watched him forever
Why the hell are some people trying to defend the creep in this situation by stating how some ages of consent are lower in different countries? Absolutely disgusting…
Shows you how people really think… and how you get Cody Kos and DrDisrespects. They live with us man, they’re people too, no matter how disgusting… always watch yourself folks.
@@shockwave826 I agree, as a non american woman in my early 20s Im finding this reaction a bit crazy idk. I mean just above this comment someone was talking ab how 17 year olds are children and i’m just thinking that there’s no way they’re being for real like yeah maybe 17 and 24/25 is kind of weird but ppl are acting like it’s a 9y/o child and a 50y/o man, it’s insane.
The fact that Gabbie Hanna intervened, told him her age, and he still went for it is mad weird. Like it'd be one thing if he genuinely didn't know, but he was straight up told and didn't care.
@@avesander Let me try to explain. She was a minor unable to give consent, she was a fan of his making the power dynamic very weird, and there is NEVER justification for a 25 year old man with his frontal lobe fully developed to be sleeping with a high school aged girl.(especially because she was below the age of consent)
@@jameslog3431 i bet YOU wouldn't bat an eye with the way u are saying that "she consented" A child legally cannot consent btw. And I'm calling it what it is, 17 years old is still a child. at 25 it's a 8 year difference, must be chronically online browsing reddit to think that that's normal
@@jameslog3431i completely agree with this. male victims are so frequently dismissed, but that doesn't mean that cody didn't fuck up BIG TIME or that we should ignore female victims too. it means we should recognise both and not let people be weird
@@forg-du5dr In 40 other states, it's perfectly legal to have sex with her in this situation. The only reason you think it's "morally wrong" is because you were raised by TV and movies, which typically adhere to California ethics. Is it weird? Sure. Should his entire career be ruined for it? Absolutely not. Calling him a predator is asinine.
Yeah, according to most of humanity billions of people 17 is an adult. But yeah, 17 is such a child in america, first if you are 17 you are automatically brain dead, and she just stopped with diapers a week before she lied her into the party with the older dudes.
17 is still a minor, but definitely not a child lol. It's funny when y'all act like 17 is a "child" in cases like this, but any other time people get upset when older teens are referred to as kids.
Ok, I think there is a distinction between a teenager and a child bc I would also say an 18 year old is still mentally a teenager but they’re allowed to consent. My thing is, you shouldn’t be sleeping with a teenager. Teenagers are still in a group that can be/is often taken advantage of, and we need to start pushing that narrative more. And the fact that he was WARNED and still proceeded to engage is already crazy enough and leaves me without a doubt he would go lower.
People are forgetting that he’s 25. He wasn’t in highschool with her and turned 18 while dating her or graduated. He was literally a working adult that’s 25 getting with a high schooler
Suppose she started working at 14 like some people actually do and was managing the house like some 14 year olds actually do and he was a 25 year old rich kid that never had real responsibilities and only parties? Who’s the more mentally mature one in that situation? I’m not saying this was the case here, but there’s more to it than just listing age when you’re thinking about who’s more mature and wise.
EXACTLY! D’Angelo basically pushed for it to happen. He literally called out the big commentary channels for saying nothing. Charlie had people asking him to make a video a year ago, and spamming his chat for the last month. If D’Angelo didn’t literally call out the community Charlie would never talk about Cody Ko, because it’s Cody Ko, not a low hanging fruit. I love Charlie but this one is on D’Angelo.
@@healthycathy9782Yes. There is a clip from a while ago of someone waiting until a quiet moment where Charlie is reading chat and then donating a TTS message asking him to talk about the Cody situation and he ignores it, even after the chat starts asking him to talk about it too.
@@healthycathy9782Yeah i fw charlie but it shouldnt have took another youtuber to call out the commentary community for him to say something, he’s arguably the largest commentary channel
Once D’Angelo did his video Cody’s official downfall was guaranteed. He was sneaking by before, but now d’angelo has made it impossible for people to ignore it without seeming suspicious
@@ThecrazyJH96 He did do this, but honestly he did not really give them what they deserved. The commentary community has practically deputized itself as the sole arbiter of this type of thing on youtube and almost salivates over getting to report this kind of story, but suddenly when it's someone in their own house and the victim isn't sympathetic to their audience? "Well I don't think we need to commentate on that specific subject." Despite it being a tale as old as time there's just something about it that is just extra disgusting in this particular case. I think it was their false moral superiority for me. I kinda feel like someone should be saying "to SHREDS you say?" about the commentary community right now. Edit: A friend pointed out to me that given Charlie's damn near shocked reaction I might be being too harsh on the commentary community and he's right. It is kind of unbelievable that over the course of multiple years, with Tana not really making any efforts to hide this event that it has somehow never made it's way back to Charlie before this. So either Charlie is telling lies, or others are, and given the track record it's probably not Charlie. So someone's keepin' secrets.
Yeah, its worrying that people with HUGE platforms didn't speak until they were called out and scared about this affecting themselfs ... not saying Charlie, moist, doesn't care, from what I know he usually DOES talk about stuff like this, but still, we need push for large creators to speak up, always, and even more important, acknowledge and talk about when and WHY they felt like they couldn't/wouldn't 😅 And I mean TALK, not just immediately accuse people ofcs, I mean just talk about what's happening in a fair way, like Wallace did
Which I mean in that case 16 is basically 15, which in that case 12 months would basically be a fetus, which is basically sperm at that point Yknow? Sorry this prolly wasn’t funny I just wanted to continue the joke
and if 17 is basically 18, then its basically 19 which is basically 20, etc... wait, it is easier to understand in reverse.... 30 is basically 15, thats how most 30 years old are, lol
I don’t know why the “17 is basically 18” argument is a thing. You don’t expect a bouncer to let you in a bar if you are 20 because your basically 21, if you are 15 you don’t expect to get a drivers license because your basically 16. These rules aren’t negotiable, you are either above or under the legal age of stuff there’s no gray area. Edit: For those saying “But the age of consent is *Blank* in this state so actually…” That’s not how the law works. If you sleep with a 16 year old in a state where the age of consent is 18 you are breaking the law. The age of consent varies from 12 to 21 years old across the world that doesn’t change the fact that if you sleep with someone under the age of consent you are breaking the law even if it’s different somewhere else.
Yeah, by that logic 16 is basically 17. If 17 is ok so 16 should be too right. It's such a gross nonsensical rule made by people who just want to take advantage of minors. And pretty much everyone of these people are in or over their mid twenties which should indicate their intentions.
Guys you do know this 18 is the limit is only in SOME parts of the world. Italy has it at 16 I think. Mexico at 14. Literally if he had sex with her at Italy he would be fine but now in America it’s pedo? lol
It’s simple. Kody saw a young girl willing to throw herself at him, desperate for attention, and took advantage of that and her naivety. She’s an adult now, she clearly regrets it now, because that’s what happens when you grow up. You regret being taken advantage of because you know better now. This isn’t a love story this is a cut and dry “Cody wanted to have sex with and take advantage of a minors willingness to want to be famous” I don’t like Tana. But I definitely understand the power balance at play. If Cody just came out about it he’d have a better chance at damage control, but censoring this for so long has done way more damage to his image and brand. Because people are upset and started digging. And discovered he’s besties with an actual rapist, and him and his wife have a history of hanging out with teenage girls, giving them vapes, etc. just weird shit! It’s 2024, don’t hang out with teenagers if you’re an adult. Simple. They are not at your level mentally even if they or you think otherwise.
she literally said she had been a fan of him since she was a kid- which is crazy to think about considering she was 17. and she was at a party drinking alcohol. she was clearly so vulnerable where she may have been willing but was clearly being taken advantage of. I wonder if Cody asked her not to tell anyone- esp if Gabbi noticed. If so- that's literally the definition of grooming. Telling a minor "hey can we keep this a secret, you wouldn't want people to cancel me for statutory would you ? 🥺" The more you think about the situation the more obviously gross it becomes.
Idk much anout Tana but from what I do know she had a rough home life growing up, and dealt with addiction/substance abuse issues. She wasn't just a teenager she was a particularly vulnerable one
I’m assuming most of the comments defending Cody are from teenagers who don’t understand why this is so disgusting because they just haven’t had the life experience to understand. As a 24 year old: please know that you will grow up SO much in the next few years. I am a completely different person from who I was at 17. You may not feel like it now, but once you get to the age Cody was when he slept with tana, 17 year olds will seem like actual babies to you. The maturity gap is insane. If you’re in your twenties or older defending this nonsense: someone needs to check your hard drive.
Yeah its kind of strange im 18 turning 19 in the next month and I grew up on youtube and the internet. So anytime I see something like this where it is with someone who is 16 plus it feels wierd because when I look at it logically it is not ok and I never defend the people who do this stuff exactly for that reason but as a 18 year old I (Wrongfully I know) feel that people near my age are capable of consent and that they can tell whats right and wrong. It also feels like there is not that much difference between me and someone in their 20s (again I logically know there is)
@@lucastobin6454 it's not wrong for you to think people 1-2 years from you in age are able to consent. because in relation to you they can. And here's how to make it easier for you to actually 'feel' instead of just rationally knowing how wrong the late teen-mid twenties age gap is: imagine your 17yo peer being interested in a 12yo. both are minors, but super fucked up, right?
I’m 25 and remember being 17. I KNOW how far from being an adult I was at that age and Cody would have too. The fact that he still did it after being told Tana’s age is what’s sickening.
When do you personally think that people are old enough? I'm curious because it is difficult for me to imagine that someone could be much different between 17 and 18 just because of a birthday, so even 18 would seem too young if 17 is. Then people seem barely more mature at 19, they even seem foolhardy and childlike at 20. It keeps going from there, so when, despite arbitrary numbers in various legal systems, do you personally think that one is truly able to consent or is mature enough to not be exploited?
@@aFoxyFox.well i’ve seen several 25 year olds saying that 17 year olds seem like children still to them in this comment section. i can’t speak from their perspective, but as a 17 year old girl, i still feel like a child compared to anyone over 21. i’ve been working the same job since i was 14, and have coworkers in their mid 20s. i feel like it’d make me highly uncomfortable even if i turned 18 and they tried anything. all that cody knew was she was underage and a fan. gabbie didn’t even say her age it seemed like the way she put it. she said she told him tana was “underage”.
@@olivesaregreener then why were u looking at videos of 17 year old Tana dressed like a "street lady" you're just as much a predator urself. If u really believe what u claim then u wouldn't even be watching her video shown here.
@ryleighleasure1538 it's def disgusting, dude is gross. But it's a bit ironic because growing up there were swaths of 16 and 17 year old girls using fake IDs to get in down town clubs, a lot of whom would be aiming to hook up. It's like as adults we have to realize there are underage teens out drinking and clubbing actively attempting to hook up with adults.
When you're 17 you feel so old and mature, but when you're 25 it's so obvious that a 17 year old is a child. It's nasty and predatory. **Editing to add** It’s wild that there are so many adult men writing lengthy replies to this comment and others ARGUING for why they should be able to date teenagers. “Why is 18 okay and not 17?”, “A 17 year old dating a person in their 20s is equally guilty”, “when I was 17 I was emotionally mature”, "17 isn't a kid", “It’s not 18 everywhere”, etc. This is.. uh.. a concerning hill to die on, fellas. There are millions of adults out there for you to date. I'm not sure why you are looking for loopholes or to rationalize why you should be able to date kids. 17 is a kid, and what's tricky is when you are 17 you don't feel that way - I certainly didn't - but in hindsight, when you're much older, that should be clearer. In fact, legality of it aside, I think it's still dicey when you see 18/19/20 year olds being pursued by people 10+ years older than them. Just developmentally / life-stages-wise, why are you looking to be with someone who is mentally so much younger and more impressionable than yourself. It’s a total waste to interact with these people, but I wanted to leave a note here to anyone reading this who has been through this type of situation that your feelings are valid, whatever they may be, and I’m sorry if what happened to you hurt you / confused you / caused damage to you.
@@tauhid9983imaging holding a fucking teenager responsible for what a 25 year old did. The lengths people go to try to protect predators is insane. Yeah man the poor little fully grown adult really isn't at fault because this highschooler went along with what they were asked to do
@@tauhid9983 17 is underage, full stop. I'm not going to argue with people online with concerning opinions about that (but you should really check yourself if you think she's in the wrong in this situation).
@@avender93 i mean unless the allegations imply… the 17 year old got physically or psychological forced into the sexual act then sure “full stop”. But I see two ppl comiting a crime. Ppl can argue left right and centre about age of Consent regardless the law says sexual acts with a minor is unlawful which ppl should accept. Doesn’t mean the other party all of a sudden do not share any responsibility. If It’s two ppl of their own free will engaged in a crime both share the blame
thankyou for making a video on this, i think a lot of young impressionable men watch your content and it’s nice to see someone like you stick up for tana who is in this horrible position, and to see you disagreeing with those who have chosen to victim blame, it’s also nice to see that you haven’t labelled it as “drama” because something as serious as this needs to stop being labelled as drama when someones wellbeing is at stake - great video
I’m sorry, if someone said I did this to them and I didn’t do it, I would come forward immediately and say this isn’t true and use my money to sue them for defamation. His silence says more than a lot.
@@kab9706 I agree, I’m just emphasizing that him not saying anything looks really bad. Any normal person who didn’t do it would come out and deny immediately
It definitely feels like Cody has been relying on the fact that Tana is seen as a controversial and unlikable figure so he knew people would jump to discredit her and defend him. If he did this to a 17 year old Emma Chamberlain, there's NO WAY this many people would've turned a blind eye and ignored this story for so long.
You know what Kelsey and Cody did to a 16 year old Emma chamberlain tho?? 😬 gave her her first juul hit on camera. She looked up to them and they did that. And now she has a nicotine addiction. So yikes (as an understatement). I recommend watching the video, it's weird
@@KhumalosWitness ok, but the fact that of all people it is Tana Mongeau who is accusing him should raise a few red flags. She is notorious for lying for money and attention so yes people should investigate, however, her story does not include any solid evidence that Cody Ko is guilty and Tana Mongeau is known for lying so you need to remember this before you start labelling Cody Ko a predator.
the way he texted tana “are we good” and “my wedding is coming up” his wedding was Feb 2023 like DAMN he still stressing ab that shit “coming out” like its not her just telling her story 😬😬
Realizing years later that what happened to you as a teen was basically r*pe must be such a weird experience. She says that she doesn't feel first hand traumatized but is aware that it could possibly be showing up on her in different ways. my heart goes out to her, unfortunately many of us women know how hard it is to cope with abuse/harassment
@@Divi77e cody was told before that she was 17 and still went through with it.. its not like tana lied about her age to sleep with him. it was a well known fact. and he KNEW she was a long time fan of his.
@@ccmiller9615 Idk where this took place I’d assume the US but in the US most states do have 17 as the age of consent. So if she consented then it was perfectly legal, however again it depends on which state it took place in.
i am almost 25 and when i am around 17-18 year olds, they come across soooo young to me. a LOT of mental development happens between 20-25. not only was she so young, she was a FAN. he was taking complete advantage of her and it is so gross and disappointing
Yes, there’s a huge difference! It’s crazy how people are defending this, acting like seventeen is a perfectly appropriate age because it’s legal in some states. Places where the age of consent is 16, mean it’s legal for 16 and 17 year olds to sleep with each other. Not a 25 year old!
I live in Japan, where legal age is 16. However, it's considered weird for someone who's, like, 25, like Cody Ko, to have sex with a 16 year old. Whether it's legal or not, it's still fucking weird.
so happy some bigger youtubers are covering this. D'Angelo is by no means small, but the impact you have on bringing this situation to light is unfathomably large, charlie. thank you so much for talking about it.
Him and swoop always go above and beyond, puts other commentary channels to shame just a bit. Like coffeezillas of internet culture and drama scene instead of fraud and finance
@@real_surreal_sir i couldn't agree more. i love swoop, she does such intricate, detailed deep dives that really bring to light deeper implications as well as the situation at hand.
If you watched D’Angelo’s video he basically pushed hard for this response from Charlie and others to finally happen. He literally called out the big commentary channels for saying nothing. And D’Angelo literally said H3 covered this, it was not “a thing that one person said on one livestream and then deleted”. Charlie had people asking him to make a video a year ago, and spamming his chat for the last month. If D’Angelo didn’t literally call out the community Charlie would never talk about Cody Ko, because it’s Cody Ko, not a low hanging fruit. Charlie literally tries to explain himself here and doesn’t show most of the video where D’Angelo talks about the “boys club” of commentary content. I love Charlie but this one is wack!
@@shscks i'm not shading charlie but d'angelo literally said why: it was swept under the rug and those who knew about it tried to hide it as much as they could. only recently has new interest for it been renewed. i've watched cody ko for years and i've never heard of this, despite being around when this happened.
Let’s not forget that Tana also mentioned she was a fan of Cody as well before this, which adds another layer to this messed up situation. I don’t personally care for Tana’s content or whatever, but people dunking on her because she’s not the perfect victim is crazy to me. Do people have to be literally angelic for others to believe they were taken advantage of? Edit: to everyone under my comment saying Cody did nothing wrong, explain why he’s heavily censoring the people speaking up in his comments and Reddit posts about this, instead of just, you know, SAYING HE DIDNT DO IT and backing it with evidence. Genuinely wouldn’t be a hard thing to do if he was innocent. Stop being degenerates and accept that your favs can be bad people. Also accept that just because a crime happens to a bad person doesn’t suddenly make it not a crime. Don’t care what your opinion on Tana is, that was a child. Period.
@@_bambi.ambie_1936 he had a r4pist at his wedding and still hangs put with him publicly. He's the same gross frat boy behind closed doors. Don't let his video persona fool you
@@_bambi.ambie_1936bro what????? he’s a monster, full stop. no one who does something heinous like this AND stays friends with an even worse person EVER changes, because he doesn’t think he should. and that’s beyond fucked.
The argument that she was 17 which is basically 18 is wild to me. I’m three years younger than Cody was at the time of the incident, and the idea of doing what he did is so wrong to me. That’s a child. Even now, I wouldn’t date anyone younger than 21, that’s weird.
This is why Dr Disrespect's victim's name was heavily protected. Because Twitch knows that victims get blamed, ridiculed, and sent death threats. The side-by-side is wild, and is exactly why you should never pressure victims with shit like "Why didn't you report it earlier"
I don't think a saw a single person ask for the name of the victim in the Dr Disrespect situation. Most people were asking about the victim's age. People were mad that Twitch never reported that information publicly and even mad jokes about the reason for the ban.
@@GexraldH they didn't ask because they don't care...this is about public executions just like what Charles is doing here...he needs to stfu about this matter unless there's obvious evidence for it and its not 1 year difference...it isn't worth risking defamation for which this is...girls lie all the time about their ages (makeup exists)
@@DecisionsAreQuestionableIt’s one of the rumors but not proven. And don’t get it twisted, no one wanted the name of the victim. They even said if they wanted to protect the identity of the victim then censor it, they just wanted those whisper messages and Twitch absolutely did not tell anyone about the victim to protect them. They did it for the same reason that they paid him his contract in full. Twitch is staying mum because it would absolutely destroy them. Remember the Twitch whispers had not even officially launched. It was still in BETA. How do you know that they did it to cover their own butts? Disrespect said that he messaged the minor and Twitch has *still* remained silent on the situation.
It's very grim to remember the many videos where Cody used to make fun of Tana during and after the Tana Con era, especially those "Insta vs Reality" videos where he made fun of her appearance... I can't imagine how it felt to her to watch it all after what happened and how he just pretended she was an absolute stranger to him...
@@SS0895 You’re comparing illegal acts with minors to acts between two consenting adults. Seek help 👍🏼 Also I’m bisexual so idk who you’re preaching to but you sound uneducated
I’m 25 rn and teach at a high school. I see 17-18 year old girls every day and when I hear about stories like this, it makes me physically sick to think that someone my age would look at these children with sexual intent
“There’s no perfect victim” I think that speaks for Tana and how people are dismissing the allegations because of her history. But everyone deserves to tell their side of the story and Cody’s lack there of just makes him look so guilty
You mean the woman whos entire career is based on stories that arnt true and is regularly caught lying......no way, cant imagine why people dont really care. Aside from the fact that in state where is happened it literally isnt a crime and the activity was consensual, so what are we even talking about. And for the record yes I do think the nationwide AOC should be 18, buts its not.
Nobody is dismissing Tana, if anything, her claims are being taken with a grain of salt. It’s a reap what you sow kind of thing. Now it’s weird as hell that a 25 to be with a 17 yo, but Tana has profited off her lies and scamming her followers and attempted character assassination. At for me, I want legit evidence, no he said she said.
There's a major difference between telling her story versus accusing someone of an actual crime. She needs to take it court. She has a past of lying for attention and causing drama for content. She lacks a credible reputation.
100% they did the same to Trisha Paytas who has been exposing creeps for 14+ years, but yea, she’s a crazy woman, a hysterical woman, so no one should believe her. The patriarchy in action.
Yea I agree and disagree. Until the further evidence I was unconvinced because she's made serious allegations that were lies in the past. There's no perfect victim sure but there's also a story we all heard about crying wolf
Usually states with lower age of consent laws those age of consent don’t apply if you’re over 21. They’re designed so a high schooler doesn’t go to jail for sleeping with their 2 years younger partner
@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 absolutely not incorrect. A lot if most states have statutes when they have age of consent under the age of 18 making it null and void to people over 21 to prevent predator pervs like the ones trying to defend Cody Ko.
Age of consent is difficult even in law when it comes to certain cases. Most of the time though, if you are age of consent, you can be with anyone else also under age of consent, no matter the age difference. However, courts would look at the case specifically and try to identify other markers of power imbalance in a relationship, IE someone being someone's boss, someone being a teacher etc. But, legally speaking, being a minor, but over age of consent doesn't matter that much in law regarding sexual conduct. In most states it's 16, another chunk is 17 and the least common is 18. People just use 18 as the overall one because it is the highest and therefore safe in every state age and considered federal age of consent. There are laws regarding people under age of consent with others also under age of consent, which might be what you were thinking of. I don't however know how it works if two people from different states with different laws work. I think most courts wouldn't care or take a case, unless there were other legal matters at play between high schoolers of whatever age ranges being with each other. Courts are aware that teens have sex and usually in 3 years or so their age range. Laws differ in different states and it's considered illegal to try to cross state lines so that the sexual relationship is "legal" in that state. Basically, you'd need to talk to a lawyer to really know or not. Easier to just assume 18. Second the law specifically pertains to sex consent. It is not illegal to date or have a relationship with someone under consent range. A 15 year old could date a 20 year old so long as sex isn't involved, say in the case of two asexuals or people waiting till marriage or similar. That said, courts would generally doubt that if the people are together that sex or sexual acts aren't involved.
@@vixxcelacea2778 of the states and US territories with consent ages under 18 years 18 of them have age restrictions in which the age of consent is only legal within a certain amount of years, compared to 23 that allow unrestricted at under 18. Of those numbers it’s pretty smart to just assume you at 25 can’t fuck a 16 year old regardless of age of consent. It’s about a 50/50 chance you get got for it.
Trisha Paytas was talking about this on her podcast two months ago. When she was pointing out how Britney Broski won’t work with Tana but will work with her abuser Cody Ko. TWO MONTHS AGO. It’s crazy how long this took to pop off
Ok let's calm down he's not her "abuser" 😂 from what I've heard it was consensual and tana has been doing what she's doing from way before that point out of her own volition as well. No abusing took place
i’m 20 and even now i look back on my 17 year old self and feel so disconnected from that person. you mature so much in those few years. the fact he was 25 is so crazy to me
It’s true, hell even if you’re 18 you’re still just a kid developing your brain and decision making skills. I just turned 26 but when I was 25 I was nowhere around any 18 year olds because to me even they are still minors and what business do I have around them??
@@Silly1336with that logic you should never hang out with someome 10+ years older than you either. And an 80 year pld should nevee talk or be around a 50 year old because of the huge age gap
I think the weird part is the age gap, 17 is like being a junior-senior in high school, 25 is like having a masters in college, the brain development and life experience is the biggest issue here
@@Yumiko-je1towhy doesn’t it make sense ? I’ve had five different part time jobs trying to make ends meet since 18 to now 22 . WhT are you SAYING that’s a slither of experience in the real world . A 17 year old has NOTHINF . Poor tana . She needed protection … she’s a real victim . I am in college and see freshmen at 18 and some try get w me and I literally turn away because my god they’re so young and babyish to me. I can’t do it.
putting an apology behind a paywall is nuts, like "hey, people, I'll only say sorry if you pay me, only those who pay are worthy of hearing me apologize"
Yall are dumb lmfao he put it behind a paywall so it wouldn’t get seen by most of his fans that didn’t already know about the controversy. It’s not that complicated
i feel like he also put the apology behind a paywall because there is an inherent bias in his favor because they are paying for his content, therefore may be less likely to respond negatively? which is foul regardless and it just seems as a way to deflect accountability lol
I feel like D’Angelo is taking revenge because Cody said N word long time ago foolishly. D’Angelo does not care abt Tanna that much, D’Angelo just want revenge.
The craziest thing is the fact he was stopped and told she was a minor after kissing her and said “thank you for telling me!” and went on to do it with her that night…
i remember being 16 at my first job and hearing how my 24 year old manager would talk about my body and tell others what he’d do to me if it were legal. he’d randomly touch me on the shoulder or neck or act really gross. at the time i was so insanely flattered and naive i took it as a compliment. i’m 22 now and the thought of speaking like that or acting that way towards anyone 20 or under actually makes my skin crawl. do better.
I think these anecdotes are important to share because it can be hard to understand the impact of these types of crimes until you’re the age of the people committing the crimes
Thank you for sharing this, went through something similar at my first job and at the time I thought nothing of it due to my naïveté. I’m 20 now and have matured ALOT, looking back on it makes me feel genuinely sick as to how a 30 year old man behaved towards me when I was 17.
Ignore the weirdos trying to make you sound like you're oversharing or talking about something off-topic. It's absolutely on-topic. This is bigger than just Cody, and Tana has said that herself.
PSA: 18 being the law for age of consent sets a MINIMUM. Because we have to draw a line somewhere. But 25 yr olds dating 18 yr olds is also fucking weird and maybe go hang out with people your age??? Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s moral. Get a grip.
Again, most of humanity, billions of people, whole regions and countries, would scratch their heads at this "drama" and ask ".. but why?". Are most of humanity wrong and p33dos? Are billions of men p3ddos? This is the the mcdonalds of youtube, trash shiat content.
Exactly. On average, your brain isn't fully developed until you're around 25 (I usually allow some room for that, so maybe 23-27) from what I recall, and the fact that so many of the internet offenders are in that age range and are just kinda like "yeah I can get away with it if I do this" is fucking crazy. It's a law because you cannot make a properly well thought out decision until your brain develops enough. There's a reason people used to live with their parents 'til they were like 30, AND THE OLDER PEOPLE KNOW THAT SO THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE YOUNG PERSON WHO THINKS THEY'RE AWARE ENOUGH TO BE FINE BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING CONSCIOUSLY AWARE IT'S ABOUT YOUR O R G A N S G E T T I N G B E E F I E R 😭😭😭😭😭
It's not only the age gap, but the power imbalance of the situation. Tana straight up said she "grew up watching him", he was already a big creator when she was a child. How does that not make the situation an automatic "nope"?
So she knew who he was and how old he was? At 17 you're legally a minor but youre not a moron. She knew what she was doing. She hasn't stated he forced her into anything. Mind you, I have never heard of this man before this scandal (I think maybe one other time in a podcast I listen to). And I actually kinda like Tana, all her bs aside. I used to watch her often when I was younger. And I remember being 17, I knew right from wrong. I knew what was legal and what wasn't. I will fully support her if she comes out and states he forced himself onto her. But it takes two to stand in a corner making out at a party. Tana may be dumb, but she's not stupid.
The age of consent is 16 in the majority of states in America. 31 out of 50. In most of Europe its also around 16, in my home country Australia its 16 in almost every states and 17 in south Australia.
@@yuppieshrink9837But does that mean it's morally correct in those countries? NO, even 18 year olds are still children in my eyes. Instead of having relations with someone that is way below your age (and BELOW the age of consent), have relations with someone that is like idk... the same age as you????
I felt sane hearing Charlie say that he can’t be cool with people who have done some awful things. I have blood family who have done some awful things and people around me choose to ignore it, but I cut them out of my life. It’s crazy how we don’t shun people for shit nowadays and just ignore it.
I completely agree with you on the fact that people should not associate with others who have done deplorable and unforgivable things. Where I do disagree tho is saying in today’s world we “don’t shun people and ignore it”. That’s quite literally the opposite of what the current state of the world is in my opinion. Cancel culture and jumping onto exposing the latest celebrity is more popular than ever. I think the reality is moreso that today’s world with social media reveals more of those people than it used to. Now we actually have to constantly either make that choice to accept people’s mistakes and still try to support them, or be forced to ostracize and remove those people from our lives. To me I doubt this stuff happened less often, or was more harshly criticized in previous times. In fact quite the opposite is what’s considered the truth. People used to actually just get away with doing this stuff before and it would just be swept under the rug or never get enough publicity. Hell 30-40 years ago it was still considered normal to be messing around with high school age girls as a grown man. The reason it seems more prevalent than ever before, is that people actually have a platform which they can use to speak out against these offenders on. More people get exposed for their horrific actions than ever before. It’s really a double edged sword though. Even tho now we have a truer idea than ever of how common grooming, trafficking, pedophilia, and basically all forms of sexual misconduct are (especially amongst the famous/social elites), it also sucks when you were a fan of someone and have to no longer support them because you realize what they’ve done behind the scenes. Especially because of how common it actually is. Glad we get to see who the true nasty people of this world really are, but doesn’t make it easier than the time of the world where this stuff was socially accepted, or didn’t ever have a place to be broadcasted publicly. Could only imagine how much worse things used to be before the current era of social media tho… scary that the world has legitamitely improved sm yet can still be such a bad place.
Don't shun people? Haha what? There are literally thousands of girls on Twitter currently looking for someone to cancel. What do you think cancel culture is?
I think you should try to help those people realize what they did was wrong and to change. And if they continue they’ve consciously made the wrong decisions and it’s okay if you don’t wanna be around them.
Im from new zealand were the legal age is 16 for sexual consent and i can honestly say if your 25 and still going for high school girls that are 17 something is seriously wrong in general.
People don't like admitting that age of consent laws are flawed lol. For example in the Uk it's also 16, but why can't they consent to sex work? It's also about consent isnt' it? Why is it only legal if it's behind closed doors? And why is it illegal for a police officer or teacher to sleep with a 16 year old, but any other person is fine? Also they're still referred to as "children aged 16 and under" medically. They are kids.
most humans on this planet wouldnt care, billions of people. why do you even care about two adults fakking eachother 10 years ago? So silly like who careees
THISSS I think about it all the time, I'm literally 19, and the thought of being with a 17 year old deters *me* 😅 They're living w/ their parents, doing homework, and probably still don't clean the lint trap in the dryer after doing laundry! I'm good, I'll go to a coffee shop or something instead of hanging out in the car pickup line 🤭🫡
i saw the video by D’angelo yesterday, and it’s absolutely horrifying that it took until then for me as a longtime cody ko fan to find out about this. this should have been openly and widely discussed a long long time ago
Always loved Cody Ko. Probably going to unsub after he addresses it or if his next video on his main channel doesn't address it. For now, I think there are better things to watch.
I also hate the whole “17 is basically 18” excuse. Just because you’re freshly 18 does not mean your mind automatically switches onto adult mode and you’re ready to make adult decisions willy nilly. Your mind and psyche are still developing and anyone who preys, yes preys, on a fresh 18 year old is just as disgusting. Especially someone who is years older. There’s a reason why so many things are restricted to 21+. Because you’re basically still a child when you turn 18. So 17 and 364 days or 18 and 1 day is basically the same thing. Disgusting either way.
So why dont we take a look at what the victim has to say 9 years later? Oh wait she said it was consensual, and they are still cool. And the thing thing she hated the most was people not believing her, which is exatly what is happening right now.
@@dertassolast time i checked, a minor cannot consent to sex to an adult. that’s why there are laws against sex with minors, because their minds aren’t developed fully to consent to anything.
Yeah, people don’t seem to understand that 18 is the bare minimum because the line has to be drawn somewhere. Yes, 17 and 364 days is not much different from 18. That doesn’t mean it’s ok for a full grown adult to get with a 17 year old. It just also means it’s weird for a full grown adult to get with an 18 year old.
literally americans who dont understand concepts like love and standards in the comment section: if it is 1 second before turning 18 it is the most evil thing in the world, if that second passes and you do a move then, its ok
@@eliyarrows2456 except she was 18 you wanna be fortune teller, my turn to play the guessing game "i know she is a run over old ass 3rd rate option, but we are in love! and somehow i feel super bitter when i see people with younger and prettier women so... i ll call them creeps to feel better!" -you you probably think a woman can do porn when she is of age but god forbid she does this porn with someone who isnt the age that you personaly dont feel comfy with! god forbid that dudes are having sex with hotter women than you can pull!
In most states like where tana is from and most countries in the world like where cody is from the age of consent is less than 18. Bro is still a weirdo but it really is a relative crime
I'm doing to do exactly what Charlie mentioned, and be the one to say the '18yr old age of consent' is only for 12 states. 38 of 50 states are 16 or 17. It appears that no one gives a fuck that 50 year old Leonardo DiCaprio has religiously dated 20 and 21 year old women, but Kodyko with the 8 year age gap is simply too much to handle.
@@G82Jessea lot of people think Leonardo is weird too. I see jokes anytime I see anything about him that are making fun of him for dating 20 year olds and then leaving when they are 25. People think he’s weird and I’ve never seen anyone congratulate him for dating young girls. But there is also a big difference, every where in the world 20 and 21 are legal adults, they are 2-3 years older than the legal adult age, Tana in this situation was 17, and he knew that. Cody could have been 4 or 3 years older than her and people would be mad. It’s not the age gap it’s the fact that he was a legal adult, knows the law, was told he was with a high school 17 year old, and still committed a crime. If Tana was 20 and he was 50 none of this would be happening, because they are adults, it’s weird to most, but not illegal.
Appreciate and respect you (and many other popular youtubers) using your platform to talk about this. Us talking about these gross people is the only thing that takes away their power. We need to call out people no matter how famous they are
when you’re a teenager it’s “cool” and when you look back on what happened you realize you were taken advantage of. i feel for her, esp with all the “what was she wearing” type responses
@@cigritgoinShe’s 17, of course she would go ahead and do it. At 12-14 years old I was groomed online, did I know at the time it was wrong? Absolutely not because I was a teenager. Teenagers cannot consent. If something like that happens to you at 17 with a 25 year old, you don’t understand until you hit 25 years old and realize: Wow, 17 year olds are literal children to me.
@@cigritgoinOf course she’d go ahead with it, you don’t understand that shit at 17. When you get older you’ll realize how little understanding you had when you were a minor
@@cigritgoinvictim blaming a minor who didn’t know better is crazy. she’s talked about how her other trauma in her life forced her to grow up fast and being online and in a scene like LA made her feel more mature and independent as so she didn’t see anything wrong with being with someone older until afterwards.
Something that also bothered me about this situation was how Tana’s experience is discredited or brushed off initially since not only is she not well liked but seen as sexual. This just perpetuates that in order to be a victim you have to be the “perfect victim”.
When I was 15, a 22 year old dude started showing me lots of attention. He looked very young for his age and he was super sweet and also creepy. Of course at the time I didn’t think he was creepy bc I was “mature” for my age. Went on to date this dude for a year. He suddenly died and I was devastated. His friends got me hooked on pain pills during that time bc they knew I was struggling with depression. I developed a severe addiction that severely affected my life for many years to come. If only I had realized what a creep this guy was. I almost ruined my life grieving over this man that took advantage of me. Absolutely disgusting now to think back on as an adult.
The was a survey conducted a while back and they asked men if age of consent didn’t exist how young would they date, the average age was 12. So yes some men are just scared to go to jail.
@@favray I'm sorry but the legal system is a joke. It serves those in power. A lot of legal things are definitely not okay. Considering that our brains finish developing at 25, you're still a child at 17. But since we're talking about legality in this specific case, what Cody Ko did is _illegal_ since the age of consent in CA and FL is 18.
@@favrayYeah, and it was a LAW in 1940’s Germany to turn in Jewish people. Would you do that, too, just because it was “the law”? The law is black and white and has no room for actual morality, dude. And it’s WILD to say that the court system doesn’t care about feelings when the entire point is to give victims a sense of justice, you know, a FEELING. Emotions rule more of society than most would like to believe.
the worst part is that he knows what happening and chooses to ignore it and ban/delete comments about this on youtube. And the call out about his friend was also shocking because you DO CHOOSE ur friends.
@@Slyslug this whole video is talking about how it hasn't already been discussed, and how it needs to be discussed now because he's been ignoring it forever. That trick isn't gonna work anymore because it's what he's been doing and now the charade is falling apart.
If you read the details about the case with Colby, its absolutely disgusting. He's the child of two well respected Duke professor and alumna. Assault coverups happen far too often in fraternities, and it's written that Colby even showed the video to his friends in the fraternity. Cody, was in the same fraternity. Not trying to allege anything but how and why those guys didn't speak up? It certainly runs in the culture they're in.
Well crafted is inserting a clip that doesn't mention him by name and then also adding that he's racist and some other guy committed a crime so that must mean that he did?
@@frequentrage3806 What are you talking about? Each situation provides insight into his character, which isn't stellar. Character (or lack thereof) reflects a person's actions, and someone with a track record of bad decisions and apathy is more than likely to continue that sort of behavior.
@@jellybeanchloe6953 you can find a few shitty things that anyone has done in there life, especially someone who’s been in the public eye for over a decade. That isn’t proof of a crime. Just because you cheated on your fourth grade math test doesn’t mean I can lock you up for murder.
@@jellybeanchloe6953 Great insight, that distinction about how we perceive "character" especially matters when you have a public role, let alone your job depends on that level of "influence."
He obviously is, but i keep wondering how do people expect him to address it honestly. He can't do that - that'd be admitting to statuatory r*pe??? Im not on his side i fully believe that he did it but there is no right way to handle it except going to jail LOL
@@llamaczech uuhhhhh and the point of commenting that was??? No duh, but his silence is a big indicator of his guilt. I didn’t say that was the only sign of guilt 🤣
@@mackenzie0802 the point is his silence quite literally isn't an indicator of his guilt. The other stuff that indicates guilt, that stuff indicates guilt. The only way his silence indicates guilt is if you start inserting conjecture about HOW it means guilt, which you can also do for it meaning he's innocent (which I think you'd agree is bs).
cody ko when he sees this video is 17 minutes
almost 18 though....
17 min ago
@@freakyneurolink This comment was 17min ago…
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OH WHO CARES! IT WAS ONLY 7 SECONDS AWAY FROM BEING 18!
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he isn't gonna say a word, dude has a wife and kids now, if anything he will silently leave the internet and live off of everything he has built so far
I hope he stays around I love Cody despite what the cancel culture thinks of him.
Edit: after seeing how events have unfolded following the initial story coming out I can’t defend him, the evidence has become to damning and don’t want to support him anymore or continue replying to comments 🫶🏽 thanks to those of you who I had good mature discussions with
@@QuickMoDzHD what....
@@QuickMoDzHDsame I used to love ‘em too but a 17 year old is so young, forget the law, that’s just messed up man
@@QuickMoDzHDwhat an insane response. I hope you are trolling
@@QuickMoDzHDthis is unhinged. We can all acknowledge that cancel culture has gotten out of hand in certain situations. But this situation isn’t one of those, he should 100% be held accountable for this kind of shit.
"Notice these men preying on girls aren't befriending 16 year old boys as their peers? It's almost like they actually understand 16 year olds are children." - Jess Pected
Or maybe men are naturally attracted to younger women with no romantic experience and vice versa. Children aren't legally able to drive by the way.
try to tell that to a priest lol
@@bekeckettyou missed the point
16 year olds are young adults not children though but true
@@bekeckettHuh?
Just because someone doesn't have a favorable personality doesn't mean they are undeserving of respect. Just because someone appears to have a favorable personality doesn't mean they can run away without accountability.
@@teongbinjari unless theyre a pathological liar like tana
@@igotthefeelsformomonot only that, but this is just an allegation, there’s no evidence of it happening. If it did, he’s a scumbag for it, for sure. But she needs to understand her role in this and how what she did is also unacceptable. She knew EXACTLY what she was doing as well. 17 is old enough to understand that hooking up with someone older than you is NOT OK. Just like if this happened, Cody is a grown man and knew full well she was underage and he decided to do it anyway and that’s wrong. They’re both wrong though. She’s not absolved of her blame if this happened. Don’t support either of them, they’re both garbage.
@@gearzofwar123 I don't understand how you can blame a literal minor for not understanding that it's wrong. the adult in that situation is 100% in the wrong
@@gearzofwar123 sure, blame the child for getting r*ped, what and interesting take.
@@leona344i would say 100 percent the adult is in the wrong especially if it was rpe but if tana agreed and wasnt forced to hook up then it is also kinda her fault but adult is still in the wrong also
Every week a RUclipsr is revealed to be a predator.
This is a totally different thing
Not quite. many have been falsely accused. There's only one I'm aware was actually guilty is drdisrepsect.
Allegations.
Why is 17 yrs old and 364 days not fine but 18 yrs old is suddenly fine? Is 18 a magical number? 25 and 18 yrs old is STILL CREEPY
60 seconds in Africa a minute passes
"17 is less than 18" that's some brave statements charles
Edit: Please please please watch D'Angelo Wallace's video before asking "where's the evidence tho". Yes cody ko is a funny and likable guy on the internet while tana often appears annoying. But don't assume you know what kind of a person someone is just from their online persona. Keep an open mind y'all!
I did the math it checks out
17 is less than 20 he should have said
im so proud of him for sharing such a controversial oppinion
1 year difference isn't a big deal
well, 17 _is_ less than 18
Ukulele sales are going off the charts this year
Only real ones get the reference
Yeah, everyone's aware of Miranda.
Looool the ukulele apology i completely forgot about that!
@@aniotakuYT29 def not
And cupcakes
The defense of "I don't like this person so crimes against them are okay" is absolutely fucking insane
i mean she also has no evidence this is just assumptions and hear say
@@BobFudgeethe evidence is that she’s been saying this for YEARS without name dropping Cody, and further is that an entirely different person(gabbie), who also didn’t name drop him, YEARS ago talked about how she was at that same party, pulling an adult away from an underage girl saying she was underage and to stop going after her, and then the dude had sex with the teenager anyways. Literally the exact events, the same party, etc.
Brother you are doing some mental gymnastics trying to backwards bend yourself into the ‘no evidence’ thing. You really think a 17 year old coordinated a story with gabbie 8 years ago, agree to not name drop, and specifically bring it up now? Brother you think they were planning 8 years ahead like they were masterminds??? 💀💀
@@BobFudgee I mean, there is a ton of evidence and this is just a bs to protect a pred because he is male.
@@BobFudgeei mean u want her to go back in time and record their sexual encounters ? 😭🤦 they have known each other since that age and have been in many vids together , it isn’t too far off
@@BobFudgee neither does he so stfu
Why tf is it so difficult for people to NOT have sxual relations with someone under 18?
He asked 'Why do I need to point it out that stuff like this is bad'?
Something I've been noticing was that a lot of anime have been reflecting this kind of mindset as BAD (coughcough Mushoku tensei) so they could have their cake and eat it too..
Example : The plot of the aforementioned show tries to act like it's 'the MC learned their lesson, sexualizing and taking advantage of children is bad', but in actuality it's not. It leads a lot of people to make excuses for these kind of characters, like Rudy; who straight up grooms, molests, and rapes kids as a ~45 year old grown man trying his best to portray himself as an actual child, so he had a better chance at getting away with the things that he'd done.. Only for the show to try to justify their actions as not bad, or a joke (haha funny 'wake up or ill attack you' while theyre asleep while playing silly music as theyre getting molested); or even worse.. them 'getting better' somehow, even though he has his arms wrapped around his 'wife' he deflowered at 16 (then put the blood stain from the hymen break in his ''shrine'') and in the other, his cousin; both of which he groomed, molested, and raped.
It's horrifying thinking about the lengths people will do to justify his actions, not gunna lie.
Another example would be a lot of the vtubers (and in general just vtubing popping off) like gura, which is legit an adult acting like a child anime girl towards a mostly adult audience. I remember recently they popped on a screen during a baseball game and sung the pledge of allegiance; only for the adults to think it was just some character from a kids cartoon... can you blame them? I fear for them if they looked them up on google, considering how much their eyebrow would raise in even their promotional art. And you'll still see people defend this kind of stuff by going 'it's fiction' or 'theyre actually 9001 years old so its fine', and those same types of people usually leak into being a big contributor of the same question you're asking now.
Why is this related to real life, when it's 'fiction'? Well, I know this is surprising to hear this for some people (especially the ones who will go 'imagine comparing fiction to real life'); while you can't fully compare your opinions on fictional media (just kus you kill people doesnt mean youre gunna do it in real life) to real life, there's definitely some things you can take from someone liking or doing certain things, especially depending on the kind of media you're watching. It's not that I think that someone would become Rapist Rudy because they enjoy stuff like Mushoku Tensei; it's that watching media that sexualizes kids that are under 18, especially one that's incredibly hypocritical in the idea that it tries to act like they're 'getting better but not really because most of the characters, world and even the show itself says otherwise regardless of being one of the main plot points' really helps desensitize people towards these kind of things in the 'wrong' type of way BECAUSE it's fictional, and can use that excuse.. which definitely leaks into the real world due to how popular anime is now.
I mean hell, the millitary recruiters at the con I went to legit had multiple Call of Duties to play at their booth to attract potential people to recruit. It's not about them being potential killers, it's about them being more 'desensitized' and 'attracted' towards this stuff.
The fact I have to explain this to people who make excuses about it being 'fiction', hits home on the issue I'm talking about. It reminds me of the very people who would argue that it's ''fictional so noone gets hurt'; or who would call others 'tourists' whenever someone pointed out how grotesque it was that they were sexualizing some kid in an anime for the hundredth time or something.. As if that somehow makes you look any better.
thank you for my tl;dr ted talk
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@DevilMan88men and women are not biologically wired to be be creeps, that's major cope from creeps
MT hate aside, being confused between fiction and reality is also a kind of mental disorder itself.
@@ZachkTVI don’t remember ordering a yappachino
The craziest part of gabby telling him she was underage is knowing that people are watching what you’re doing, pointing out what you’re doing is illegal/wrong, and then still doing it. How does that not deter you at all
@@amicuscureye bc she was tight
@@FrankYammyand you’re small
@@vallyzs I’m 7 inches tho
@@FrankYammy7 inches of peer disappointment
@@FrankYammy nobody believes you, dude. I don’t even think you believe yourself….
Kendrick really wrote a theme song for 2024 💀💀
Nah ain't no way 💀💀💀
He wrote 2 songs for 2024 😂
A minooorrrrr
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Kendrick was trying to warn us. Everybody tryna get the kids this year
The fact people try to justify 17 just because “it’s close enough to 18” implies that if it was legal you’d go for way lower
It *is* legal most places.
@@purringbluzzmuffin8030the age of consent in Nigeria is eleven, does that make it moral for an 18 yr old to fuck an 11 yr old. I wouldn’t say so, even though it’s technically legal dosen’t mean it’s right and what Cody ko did wasn’t moral or legal
@@ZarbiDW so you're saying all Nigerians are pedos
@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 doesnt make it ok
@@jakemealer9545basically
This woman can’t even talk about her abusive childhood because her father would sue her. Then she got dog piled for talking about being approached in an inappropriate manner when she was underage. Likeable or not, that’s really awful and it’s almost like her life has had the tone set where she just can’t come forward with any form of abuse anymore. No one should have to live like that.
True. I remember when bhad bhabie came out about the dr phil ranch that they'd send the problem kids like her to and all the abuse they suffered and alot of people online did support her but a bigger amt didn't and obviously dr Phil's diehard fans could care less. It's a shame. Bring it back even further and you got Courtney Stoddard, who was just fifteen or so when she married an older famous guy (his name's not worth remembering) and all of media and the public slut shamed her. I'm talking big names like Anderson Cooper and in the dms Christie Teagan was telling her to delete herself. This mindset hasn't died of in everyone and that's sad.
It's almost as if everything she does is in service of that lifestyle.
@@Vanessa-xx3yzBrooke Shields is another whom always comes to mind, she was 11-years-old during filming of Louis Malle’s ‘Pretty Baby’. Also Paris Hilton at Provo Canyon, Britney Spears…
@@MatthewNope GTFO here with that victim blaming shit
@@miseendriste6337 hhaahahahah
"Hey, maybe you should have worn a seatbelt"
OMG victim blaming!
Have some moral/ethical integrity please.
Why can’t RUclipsrs just be normal and not be weirdos?
Ego
It's so fucking aggravating. Why is it that so many of them turn out to be awful people. Fucking sick of it
@OfficerMAPPrideOfficial and jail is just a room
Markiplier: 🗿
It's in their nature. The prospect of fame attracts many different predators.
something I realized after years of watching Cody is that he actually IS that frat boy character he plays
He was a D1 athlete who was also a frat boy. Of course he’s not putting up a front lol
Also was anyone else slightly thrown off by the constant scat jokes he was making? Dude might be even more perverse than we know. Every scenario he ever joked about had literal shit brought up for no reason
@@thaloblueyou could say the same thing about cr1tikal
@@stxcxv it’s such different comedy styles tho, you really can’t.
@@STANKGOD-420”it’s not a nothing burger that someone squeezed out of their asscheeks” literally a minute and 15 seconds in Charlie says this, come on.
The problem with "17 is basically 18" is that 18 is the MINIMUM age of consent. It is ALREADY at the limit. There is no room to shave that down; it's actually already kind of a danger zone to be sleeping with 18 year olds if you're 25. And if it really is that close, wait.
It’s a vicious cycle of deniability, as well, because 16 is also “basically” 17. And what’s basically 16? 15. 14’s not that far from 15. But 13’s “basically” 14, too. It doesn’t end; it’s a silly defense for this 💩
@@quesadilla9957
Bruh every American girl lost there v by 17, this is ridiculous
@@johnhenry4844 Do you have a response to the argument, though?
Apart from that, why does a minor having intimacy preciously make it okay for an adult to do it with them? That’s the average age, by the way. Don’t exaggerate.
@@quesadilla9957
What’s the difference then, who cares, acting like tana was untouched and innocent at 17 is ridiculous, age of consent is 16 in my country and girls always fling themselves at older guys then cry about it at 30, pathetic take responsibility for spreading legs
@@johnhenry4844 having sex with dsomeone your age is different than having sex with someone way older than you, specially when you are this young and easy to manipulate.
the "oh shit thanks for telling me" to "has sex with a minor anyway" combo is actually insane
"oh shit thanks for telling me she's a minor, it''s gonna be way hotter now" ~ Cody Ko
@@askariyawYou did NOT have to write that “~” bro 😭
@@askariyaw not the "~"😭
;0 ~~
This comment section is fucking weird.
The apology behind a paywall is CRAZY.
Somehow worse than a $50 paywall fake wedding
Nah it’s genius
@@thebenchwarmer23exactly, crazy genius
What are you talking about?
@@merlin3 Cody Ko said the nword multiple times, and released an apology that was locked behind a paywall so most of his audience wouldn't see it, or hear about it.
The biggest irony is how much he talks about shitty men on his channel just to be one himself. He literally proved, "It takes one to know one"
Soft boy stereotype is undefeatable
FYI Charlie Penguinz0 is FAKE , me and my friends kept telling him to cover Tana Cody ko for month now, he even saw our insta Stories sent him All proofs & he ignored it ! He’s only speaking now after D’angelo exposed the commentary RUclipsrs for not speaking & protecting their friend Cody ko
So much of his vids would age with milk if anything like this was posted on moist, probably was always the spineless nerd tho so not very likely I guess
I mean back then he wasn't like this online sooo he definitely hasn't changed regardless of allegations, it's good he talks about shitty men online that's doesn't exactly get negated just because you suddenly conveniently hate a person, but idk since I haven watched him forever
you got it the other way around, he was shitty then and trying to compensate now.
Why the hell are some people trying to defend the creep in this situation by stating how some ages of consent are lower in different countries? Absolutely disgusting…
FOR REAL!!! Just because those countries have those laws doesn’t even make it okay. We need to call it out until the laws are changed.
Shows you how people really think… and how you get Cody Kos and DrDisrespects. They live with us man, they’re people too, no matter how disgusting… always watch yourself folks.
if you check the newest uploaded comments so many creeps r tryna justify it
It's just kind of weird to some of us foreign people because where I live for example it's 16. Same with most of the world
@@shockwave826 I agree, as a non american woman in my early 20s Im finding this reaction a bit crazy idk. I mean just above this comment someone was talking ab how 17 year olds are children and i’m just thinking that there’s no way they’re being for real like yeah maybe 17 and 24/25 is kind of weird but ppl are acting like it’s a 9y/o child and a 50y/o man, it’s insane.
The fact that Gabbie Hanna intervened, told him her age, and he still went for it is mad weird. Like it'd be one thing if he genuinely didn't know, but he was straight up told and didn't care.
thats the grossest part about all of this
@@mixedpeterparker9357nice you beat the bots
@OfficerMAPPrideOfficial 0/10 rage bait
@@avesander Let me try to explain. She was a minor unable to give consent, she was a fan of his making the power dynamic very weird, and there is NEVER justification for a 25 year old man with his frontal lobe fully developed to be sleeping with a high school aged girl.(especially because she was below the age of consent)
@@mixedpeterparker9357the fact that people have to explain why it's wrong is insane to me
Also it’s SO HYPOCRITICAL the way cody built his platform on making fun of creeps and being a “nice guy” while having this going on… ugh it’s so gross
Yes fr!! And not just hooking up with a minor but also being close friends with such a monster
if it was a 17 year old guy hook up with 25 year old girl no one would bat an eye
@@jameslog3431 i bet YOU wouldn't bat an eye with the way u are saying that "she consented" A child legally cannot consent btw. And I'm calling it what it is, 17 years old is still a child. at 25 it's a 8 year difference, must be chronically online browsing reddit to think that that's normal
@@jameslog3431i completely agree with this. male victims are so frequently dismissed, but that doesn't mean that cody didn't fuck up BIG TIME or that we should ignore female victims too. it means we should recognise both and not let people be weird
@@forg-du5dr In 40 other states, it's perfectly legal to have sex with her in this situation. The only reason you think it's "morally wrong" is because you were raised by TV and movies, which typically adhere to California ethics.
Is it weird? Sure. Should his entire career be ruined for it? Absolutely not. Calling him a predator is asinine.
17 minutes cuz you know cody ko aint watching anything over 18
AH HELL NAW 😂😂
This is criminal 😭😭😭
WILD
omg
AYO
Cody was a grown man at 25. 17 is a child; there's absolutely no room for argument. Disgusting
Yeah, according to most of humanity billions of people 17 is an adult. But yeah, 17 is such a child in america, first if you are 17 you are automatically brain dead, and she just stopped with diapers a week before she lied her into the party with the older dudes.
@@blaaa22awwwf Check this guy’s computer asap
17 is still a minor, but definitely not a child lol. It's funny when y'all act like 17 is a "child" in cases like this, but any other time people get upset when older teens are referred to as kids.
@@ville666sora Ngl this comment is weird. I'm not about to differentiate between a minor and a child
Ok, I think there is a distinction between a teenager and a child bc I would also say an 18 year old is still mentally a teenager but they’re allowed to consent. My thing is, you shouldn’t be sleeping with a teenager. Teenagers are still in a group that can be/is often taken advantage of, and we need to start pushing that narrative more. And the fact that he was WARNED and still proceeded to engage is already crazy enough and leaves me without a doubt he would go lower.
People are forgetting that he’s 25. He wasn’t in highschool with her and turned 18 while dating her or graduated. He was literally a working adult that’s 25 getting with a high schooler
fr, it wouldn't be okay even if she was 18. an eight year age gap is straight up predatory and not to mention she was a fan of his
Suppose she started working at 14 like some people actually do and was managing the house like some 14 year olds actually do and he was a 25 year old rich kid that never had real responsibilities and only parties? Who’s the more mentally mature one in that situation?
I’m not saying this was the case here, but there’s more to it than just listing age when you’re thinking about who’s more mature and wise.
why was she in a party with adults then?
@@MissingYouserPedo comment!
@@MissingYouser if you have to come up with imaginary scenarios to justify hooking up with minors you seriously need professional help man
Another celebrity fails the “Don’t touch a minor any % speedrun”
Celebrity is a stretch here.
More like officer butthole@OfficerMAPPrideOfficial
sooooo glad meatcanyon distanced himself
@@michaelcortez1716 who gives a fuck, thats literally not the point
(impossible)
Really bad for Cody that Gabbi Hanna doesn't name drop in the clip, but does break into a perfect Cody Ko impression
I was thinking that too
YEAH I WAS THINKING THAT
she’s demented asf but i gained some respects for her honestly
Seriously the "oh.. my gad" was literally right on the nose. He still acts and talks like that
How is that an impression? She doesn’t name drop anyone and the “impression” is a second long. Y’all are grasping at nothing
Colleen Ballinger is looking like a proud mother passing the Ukele to Cody Ko 😂
I regret reading this, i hate that I'm laughing. 😂
D’Angelo: “Besides H3, I’m the only big youtuber talking about this”
Charlie: “shit”
EXACTLY! D’Angelo basically pushed for it to happen. He literally called out the big commentary channels for saying nothing. Charlie had people asking him to make a video a year ago, and spamming his chat for the last month. If D’Angelo didn’t literally call out the community Charlie would never talk about Cody Ko, because it’s Cody Ko, not a low hanging fruit. I love Charlie but this one is on D’Angelo.
Literally
@@healthycathy9782Yes. There is a clip from a while ago of someone waiting until a quiet moment where Charlie is reading chat and then donating a TTS message asking him to talk about the Cody situation and he ignores it, even after the chat starts asking him to talk about it too.
@@healthycathy9782Yeah i fw charlie but it shouldnt have took another youtuber to call out the commentary community for him to say something, he’s arguably the largest commentary channel
D’Angelo said Charlie’s name without saying Charlie’s name. I KNEW after I watched D’Angelo yesterday that this would follow today.
Once D’Angelo did his video Cody’s official downfall was guaranteed. He was sneaking by before, but now d’angelo has made it impossible for people to ignore it without seeming suspicious
Especially since he called out all commentary RUclipsrs, like critikal for not talking about it
@@ThecrazyJH96 He did do this, but honestly he did not really give them what they deserved. The commentary community has practically deputized itself as the sole arbiter of this type of thing on youtube and almost salivates over getting to report this kind of story, but suddenly when it's someone in their own house and the victim isn't sympathetic to their audience? "Well I don't think we need to commentate on that specific subject." Despite it being a tale as old as time there's just something about it that is just extra disgusting in this particular case. I think it was their false moral superiority for me. I kinda feel like someone should be saying "to SHREDS you say?" about the commentary community right now.
Edit: A friend pointed out to me that given Charlie's damn near shocked reaction I might be being too harsh on the commentary community and he's right. It is kind of unbelievable that over the course of multiple years, with Tana not really making any efforts to hide this event that it has somehow never made it's way back to Charlie before this. So either Charlie is telling lies, or others are, and given the track record it's probably not Charlie. So someone's keepin' secrets.
The main reason why I love D'Angelo Wallace. He is large enough to bring things into light, and he's just genuinely deserves his fame
@@ThecrazyJH96 im surprised atozy didnt make a video about it
Yeah, its worrying that people with HUGE platforms didn't speak until they were called out and scared about this affecting themselfs ... not saying Charlie, moist, doesn't care, from what I know he usually DOES talk about stuff like this, but still, we need push for large creators to speak up, always, and even more important, acknowledge and talk about when and WHY they felt like they couldn't/wouldn't 😅
And I mean TALK, not just immediately accuse people ofcs, I mean just talk about what's happening in a fair way, like Wallace did
D'Angelo continously "talking" to Cody through his video - constantly using "you" - is so unsettling and important. I'm glad he spoke about this.
Why is 17 yrs old and 364 days not fine but 18 yrs old is suddenly fine? Is 18 a magical number? 25 and 18 yrs old is STILL CREEPY
@@davedave3520100%
@@narginabarnett614 absolutely
Meet the Grahams style of speaking. Absolutely awesome.
Btw ignore the bots
The fact that this video is almost 18 minutes long is diabolical
You can take the bro out of the frat house but you can’t take the frat out of the bro
It is also seemingly impossible to take bro out the 17 y/o
💀😭 bro
Lmao ok that was funny
@@astralflick 50% his fault, 50% her fault. Takes two to tango. She's guilty as well
@@-Verycardhockagain, u cant consent as a 17 yr so is 100% his fault. He should've known better and not come onto her as a 25 yr old man.
If 17 is basically 18 then 17 is also basically 16……..
Which I mean in that case 16 is basically 15, which in that case 12 months would basically be a fetus, which is basically sperm at that point Yknow?
Sorry this prolly wasn’t funny I just wanted to continue the joke
and if 17 is basically 18, then its basically 19 which is basically 20, etc... wait, it is easier to understand in reverse.... 30 is basically 15, thats how most 30 years old are, lol
Time doesn’t move backwards buddy
@SacredLover21 lmfao what did you wish to gain with this statement.
@@Youknow6969able that time move forwards and not backwards!
I don’t know why the “17 is basically 18” argument is a thing. You don’t expect a bouncer to let you in a bar if you are 20 because your basically 21, if you are 15 you don’t expect to get a drivers license because your basically 16.
These rules aren’t negotiable, you are either above or under the legal age of stuff there’s no gray area.
Edit: For those saying “But the age of consent is *Blank* in this state so actually…” That’s not how the law works. If you sleep with a 16 year old in a state where the age of consent is 18 you are breaking the law. The age of consent varies from 12 to 21 years old across the world that doesn’t change the fact that if you sleep with someone under the age of consent you are breaking the law even if it’s different somewhere else.
Yeah, by that logic 16 is basically 17. If 17 is ok so 16 should be too right.
It's such a gross nonsensical rule made by people who just want to take advantage of minors.
And pretty much everyone of these people are in or over their mid twenties which should indicate their intentions.
@@RandomPersonProbably In most states the law is 16, so.
Guys you do know this 18 is the limit is only in SOME parts of the world. Italy has it at 16 I think. Mexico at 14. Literally if he had sex with her at Italy he would be fine but now in America it’s pedo? lol
@@GasStationMan 15 is essentially 16
@@remenkameOkay but if 16 is legal then 15 is basically 16.
It’s simple. Kody saw a young girl willing to throw herself at him, desperate for attention, and took advantage of that and her naivety. She’s an adult now, she clearly regrets it now, because that’s what happens when you grow up. You regret being taken advantage of because you know better now. This isn’t a love story this is a cut and dry “Cody wanted to have sex with and take advantage of a minors willingness to want to be famous”
I don’t like Tana. But I definitely understand the power balance at play. If Cody just came out about it he’d have a better chance at damage control, but censoring this for so long has done way more damage to his image and brand. Because people are upset and started digging. And discovered he’s besties with an actual rapist, and him and his wife have a history of hanging out with teenage girls, giving them vapes, etc. just weird shit! It’s 2024, don’t hang out with teenagers if you’re an adult. Simple. They are not at your level mentally even if they or you think otherwise.
she literally said she had been a fan of him since she was a kid- which is crazy to think about considering she was 17. and she was at a party drinking alcohol. she was clearly so vulnerable where she may have been willing but was clearly being taken advantage of. I wonder if Cody asked her not to tell anyone- esp if Gabbi noticed. If so- that's literally the definition of grooming. Telling a minor "hey can we keep this a secret, you wouldn't want people to cancel me for statutory would you ? 🥺" The more you think about the situation the more obviously gross it becomes.
Idk much anout Tana but from what I do know she had a rough home life growing up, and dealt with addiction/substance abuse issues. She wasn't just a teenager she was a particularly vulnerable one
I’m assuming most of the comments defending Cody are from teenagers who don’t understand why this is so disgusting because they just haven’t had the life experience to understand. As a 24 year old: please know that you will grow up SO much in the next few years. I am a completely different person from who I was at 17. You may not feel like it now, but once you get to the age Cody was when he slept with tana, 17 year olds will seem like actual babies to you. The maturity gap is insane. If you’re in your twenties or older defending this nonsense: someone needs to check your hard drive.
real shit
Yeah its kind of strange im 18 turning 19 in the next month and I grew up on youtube and the internet. So anytime I see something like this where it is with someone who is 16 plus it feels wierd because when I look at it logically it is not ok and I never defend the people who do this stuff exactly for that reason but as a 18 year old I (Wrongfully I know) feel that people near my age are capable of consent and that they can tell whats right and wrong. It also feels like there is not that much difference between me and someone in their 20s (again I logically know there is)
Spot on. I would’ve sworn I was already mature enough at 17. Now I’m 26 and can immediately tell when meeting someone under 21, they are like children
Dude thinking he is the big bro here
@@lucastobin6454 it's not wrong for you to think people 1-2 years from you in age are able to consent. because in relation to you they can.
And here's how to make it easier for you to actually 'feel' instead of just rationally knowing how wrong the late teen-mid twenties age gap is: imagine your 17yo peer being interested in a 12yo. both are minors, but super fucked up, right?
I’m 25 and remember being 17. I KNOW how far from being an adult I was at that age and Cody would have too. The fact that he still did it after being told Tana’s age is what’s sickening.
When do you personally think that people are old enough? I'm curious because it is difficult for me to imagine that someone could be much different between 17 and 18 just because of a birthday, so even 18 would seem too young if 17 is. Then people seem barely more mature at 19, they even seem foolhardy and childlike at 20. It keeps going from there, so when, despite arbitrary numbers in various legal systems, do you personally think that one is truly able to consent or is mature enough to not be exploited?
@@aFoxyFox.well i’ve seen several 25 year olds saying that 17 year olds seem like children still to them in this comment section. i can’t speak from their perspective, but as a 17 year old girl, i still feel like a child compared to anyone over 21. i’ve been working the same job since i was 14, and have coworkers in their mid 20s. i feel like it’d make me highly uncomfortable even if i turned 18 and they tried anything. all that cody knew was she was underage and a fan. gabbie didn’t even say her age it seemed like the way she put it. she said she told him tana was “underage”.
@@olivesaregreener then why were u looking at videos of 17 year old Tana dressed like a "street lady" you're just as much a predator urself. If u really believe what u claim then u wouldn't even be watching her video shown here.
@ryleighleasure1538 it's def disgusting, dude is gross. But it's a bit ironic because growing up there were swaths of 16 and 17 year old girls using fake IDs to get in down town clubs, a lot of whom would be aiming to hook up. It's like as adults we have to realize there are underage teens out drinking and clubbing actively attempting to hook up with adults.
and then there are 17 year olds far more intelligent and mature than you will ever be
When you're 17 you feel so old and mature, but when you're 25 it's so obvious that a 17 year old is a child. It's nasty and predatory.
**Editing to add**
It’s wild that there are so many adult men writing lengthy replies to this comment and others ARGUING for why they should be able to date teenagers. “Why is 18 okay and not 17?”, “A 17 year old dating a person in their 20s is equally guilty”, “when I was 17 I was emotionally mature”, "17 isn't a kid", “It’s not 18 everywhere”, etc. This is.. uh.. a concerning hill to die on, fellas. There are millions of adults out there for you to date. I'm not sure why you are looking for loopholes or to rationalize why you should be able to date kids. 17 is a kid, and what's tricky is when you are 17 you don't feel that way - I certainly didn't - but in hindsight, when you're much older, that should be clearer. In fact, legality of it aside, I think it's still dicey when you see 18/19/20 year olds being pursued by people 10+ years older than them. Just developmentally / life-stages-wise, why are you looking to be with someone who is mentally so much younger and more impressionable than yourself.
It’s a total waste to interact with these people, but I wanted to leave a note here to anyone reading this who has been through this type of situation that your feelings are valid, whatever they may be, and I’m sorry if what happened to you hurt you / confused you / caused damage to you.
@@tauhid9983 im sorry (im not, at all) but wtf are u trying to say here
@@tauhid9983imaging holding a fucking teenager responsible for what a 25 year old did. The lengths people go to try to protect predators is insane. Yeah man the poor little fully grown adult really isn't at fault because this highschooler went along with what they were asked to do
@@tauhid9983 wow its almost like minors cant consent
@@tauhid9983 17 is underage, full stop. I'm not going to argue with people online with concerning opinions about that (but you should really check yourself if you think she's in the wrong in this situation).
@@avender93 i mean unless the allegations imply… the 17 year old got physically or psychological forced into the sexual act then sure “full stop”. But I see two ppl comiting a crime. Ppl can argue left right and centre about age of Consent regardless the law says sexual acts with a minor is unlawful which ppl should accept. Doesn’t mean the other party all of a sudden do not share any responsibility.
If It’s two ppl of their own free will engaged in a crime both share the blame
thankyou for making a video on this, i think a lot of young impressionable men watch your content and it’s nice to see someone like you stick up for tana who is in this horrible position, and to see you disagreeing with those who have chosen to victim blame, it’s also nice to see that you haven’t labelled it as “drama” because something as serious as this needs to stop being labelled as drama when someones wellbeing is at stake - great video
I’m sorry, if someone said I did this to them and I didn’t do it, I would come forward immediately and say this isn’t true and use my money to sue them for defamation. His silence says more than a lot.
Can't successfully sue if it's true.
Why are you sorry?
@@simplesimon8255 figure of speech. I guess to emphasize how him not coming out and denying looks really bad.
@@kab9706 I agree, I’m just emphasizing that him not saying anything looks really bad. Any normal person who didn’t do it would come out and deny immediately
@@jordanhickey9785 don’t be sorry
It definitely feels like Cody has been relying on the fact that Tana is seen as a controversial and unlikable figure so he knew people would jump to discredit her and defend him. If he did this to a 17 year old Emma Chamberlain, there's NO WAY this many people would've turned a blind eye and ignored this story for so long.
You know what Kelsey and Cody did to a 16 year old Emma chamberlain tho?? 😬 gave her her first juul hit on camera. She looked up to them and they did that. And now she has a nicotine addiction. So yikes (as an understatement). I recommend watching the video, it's weird
@@cherryrose34526oh
My
@@KhumalosWitness ok, but the fact that of all people it is Tana Mongeau who is accusing him should raise a few red flags. She is notorious for lying for money and attention so yes people should investigate, however, her story does not include any solid evidence that Cody Ko is guilty and Tana Mongeau is known for lying so you need to remember this before you start labelling Cody Ko a predator.
@@cherryrose34526I had no idea about that, that is so fxcked up omg??! I wonder how many young people they took advantage of??
@@loz5001-dl1ymdid u even watch the video 😮
At this point, the list of RUclipsrs turned predators is SO LONG, it's starting to look like a CVS receipt
it's starting to look like being a predator is a trend among youtubers now 💀
i think it’s more like predator turned youtuber
@@amatullah4819 😳
Well Cody Ko apparently bought a cupcake.
Another unsuccessful female trying to be relevant on the back of a man. This whole cancel culture is a clown fiesta.
the gabbie hanna clip being called “ancient artifact” SENT ME
the way he texted tana “are we good” and “my wedding is coming up” his wedding was Feb 2023 like DAMN he still stressing ab that shit “coming out” like its not her just telling her story 😬😬
Feels manipulative as fuck to say that too, like “don’t you dare try and ruin my happiness because of something I did to you”
bro just by you uploading this you brought this info to millions more, big props
Fuck
Realizing years later that what happened to you as a teen was basically r*pe must be such a weird experience. She says that she doesn't feel first hand traumatized but is aware that it could possibly be showing up on her in different ways. my heart goes out to her, unfortunately many of us women know how hard it is to cope with abuse/harassment
this!!
Well and I had few female friends that were willingly hooking up with older guys with fake I'd just bcs. World is a weird place i guess
@@Divi77e cody was told before that she was 17 and still went through with it.. its not like tana lied about her age to sleep with him. it was a well known fact. and he KNEW she was a long time fan of his.
@@ccmiller9615 Idk where this took place I’d assume the US but in the US most states do have 17 as the age of consent. So if she consented then it was perfectly legal, however again it depends on which state it took place in.
@@Yumiko-je1to I’m pretty sure the age of consent is doesn’t apply when it’s a grown man hooking up with a child, at least I hope not.
Glad to see you talking about it and i always enjoy how directly you creddit people for everything you reference
Dude being 25 and hitting on someone less than 20 is weird enough. 17 is gross
That’s what I’m saying !!!!!
Just like Drake and Taylor Swift. Dating 17 year olds in their 20s.
Moist has spoken, Ko cannot hide no mo.
im only 20 and 17 year olds look young to me. tana at 17 looks young to me.
@@oatsey1345you need your brain examined smh PDF file spotted
the fact that gabbie hanna even warned him that she was underage and STILL did it speaks volumes. fucking disgusting.
Tbf, Gabbie is schizophrenic
@OfficerMAPPrideUTTPur backkkk!!!
That’s not actually a fact, it doesn’t make a fact because you just heard something and you want to believe it
To be fair have you seen gabbie hanna, she is not an easy person to take seriously
@@anthony310hthe heavily substantiated allegation
i am almost 25 and when i am around 17-18 year olds, they come across soooo young to me. a LOT of mental development happens between 20-25. not only was she so young, she was a FAN. he was taking complete advantage of her and it is so gross and disappointing
Ikr regardless of legality it's weird for a 25 year old to sleep with anyone under 20
They’re both FANs lol
Yes, there’s a huge difference! It’s crazy how people are defending this, acting like seventeen is a perfectly appropriate age because it’s legal in some states. Places where the age of consent is 16, mean it’s legal for 16 and 17 year olds to sleep with each other. Not a 25 year old!
@@dancinganimals. To be fair Megan da stallion looked the same way she did at 25 when she was 18
@@caranookwhy would they make a rule for it to be legal for a 16 and 17 year old to sleep together?
I live in Japan, where legal age is 16. However, it's considered weird for someone who's, like, 25, like Cody Ko, to have sex with a 16 year old. Whether it's legal or not, it's still fucking weird.
In Germany it’s 14 and i really have struggles seeing the problem here 😂 17 and 25 seems alright but guess culture differs
@@checkcommentsfirst3335 yuck that's insane. German men literally like sleeping with children?
In my country it is 16
so happy some bigger youtubers are covering this. D'Angelo is by no means small, but the impact you have on bringing this situation to light is unfathomably large, charlie. thank you so much for talking about it.
Him and swoop always go above and beyond, puts other commentary channels to shame just a bit. Like coffeezillas of internet culture and drama scene instead of fraud and finance
@@real_surreal_sir i couldn't agree more. i love swoop, she does such intricate, detailed deep dives that really bring to light deeper implications as well as the situation at hand.
If you watched D’Angelo’s video he basically pushed hard for this response from Charlie and others to finally happen. He literally called out the big commentary channels for saying nothing. And D’Angelo literally said H3 covered this, it was not “a thing that one person said on one livestream and then deleted”. Charlie had people asking him to make a video a year ago, and spamming his chat for the last month. If D’Angelo didn’t literally call out the community Charlie would never talk about Cody Ko, because it’s Cody Ko, not a low hanging fruit. Charlie literally tries to explain himself here and doesn’t show most of the video where D’Angelo talks about the “boys club” of commentary content. I love Charlie but this one is wack!
Yeah once I saw that Charlie was covering this I was just like "oh boy Cody's done for"
@@shscks i'm not shading charlie but d'angelo literally said why: it was swept under the rug and those who knew about it tried to hide it as much as they could. only recently has new interest for it been renewed. i've watched cody ko for years and i've never heard of this, despite being around when this happened.
Gabbi Hanna might not have said his name but she is mimicking Cody's voice when telling the story
right! knowing that its cody now the speech style is immediately recognisable
Let’s not forget that Tana also mentioned she was a fan of Cody as well before this, which adds another layer to this messed up situation. I don’t personally care for Tana’s content or whatever, but people dunking on her because she’s not the perfect victim is crazy to me. Do people have to be literally angelic for others to believe they were taken advantage of?
Edit: to everyone under my comment saying Cody did nothing wrong, explain why he’s heavily censoring the people speaking up in his comments and Reddit posts about this, instead of just, you know, SAYING HE DIDNT DO IT and backing it with evidence. Genuinely wouldn’t be a hard thing to do if he was innocent. Stop being degenerates and accept that your favs can be bad people. Also accept that just because a crime happens to a bad person doesn’t suddenly make it not a crime. Don’t care what your opinion on Tana is, that was a child. Period.
Yes. And even then, people will invent reasons not to trust victims. Hence why "victim blaming" is prominent enough to warrant a term.
he literally has a wife and a baby. Obviously he's not the same man anymore
@@kermitsortalikesyou Except she wasn't taken advantage of and there is no victim.
@@_bambi.ambie_1936 he had a r4pist at his wedding and still hangs put with him publicly. He's the same gross frat boy behind closed doors. Don't let his video persona fool you
@@_bambi.ambie_1936bro what????? he’s a monster, full stop. no one who does something heinous like this AND stays friends with an even worse person EVER changes, because he doesn’t think he should. and that’s beyond fucked.
The argument that she was 17 which is basically 18 is wild to me. I’m three years younger than Cody was at the time of the incident, and the idea of doing what he did is so wrong to me. That’s a child. Even now, I wouldn’t date anyone younger than 21, that’s weird.
Teenager*
This is why Dr Disrespect's victim's name was heavily protected. Because Twitch knows that victims get blamed, ridiculed, and sent death threats. The side-by-side is wild, and is exactly why you should never pressure victims with shit like "Why didn't you report it earlier"
I don't think a saw a single person ask for the name of the victim in the Dr Disrespect situation. Most people were asking about the victim's age.
People were mad that Twitch never reported that information publicly and even mad jokes about the reason for the ban.
@@GexraldH they didn't ask because they don't care...this is about public executions just like what Charles is doing here...he needs to stfu about this matter unless there's obvious evidence for it and its not 1 year difference...it isn't worth risking defamation for which this is...girls lie all the time about their ages (makeup exists)
@@felinetrillionaire where did you get that idea
@@Dylamn Yes facts
@@DecisionsAreQuestionableIt’s one of the rumors but not proven.
And don’t get it twisted, no one wanted the name of the victim. They even said if they wanted to protect the identity of the victim then censor it, they just wanted those whisper messages and Twitch absolutely did not tell anyone about the victim to protect them. They did it for the same reason that they paid him his contract in full. Twitch is staying mum because it would absolutely destroy them. Remember the Twitch whispers had not even officially launched. It was still in BETA.
How do you know that they did it to cover their own butts? Disrespect said that he messaged the minor and Twitch has *still* remained silent on the situation.
It's very grim to remember the many videos where Cody used to make fun of Tana during and after the Tana Con era, especially those "Insta vs Reality" videos where he made fun of her appearance... I can't imagine how it felt to her to watch it all after what happened and how he just pretended she was an absolute stranger to him...
Having one sexual encounter at the party doesn’t make you close “friends” with anyone. She’s still a stranger
@@veenshy6243 and he's still her abuser who took advantage of her when she was 17
@@veenshy6243 wild take
@@veenshy6243they recorded multiple videos together before and after they slept together, they were not strangers.
grosssss
I hate how people are excusing his behaviour because they don't like Tana, that's not an excuse to pardon a literal predator
Idk where this took place I’d assume the US but in the US most states have 17 as the age of consent. So if she consented then it was perfectly legal.
@@Yumiko-je1to took place in florida. age of consent in florida is 18. it was a crime.
@@Yumiko-je1to don’t bother talking if you only have dumb irrelevant shit to say
@@Yumiko-je1tosomething being legal doesn’t make it morally okay
@@Yumiko-je1towould you think it’s ok to cheat? It’s not illegal. But still morally wrong. Use ur brain
The amount of people bringing up the age of consent in other states/countries is so concerning. Hard drives need to be checked asap
Keep that same energy with homosexuality. Just because it’s legal here doesn’t mean it’s not disgusting and wrong
@@SS0895 You’re comparing illegal acts with minors to acts between two consenting adults. Seek help 👍🏼 Also I’m bisexual so idk who you’re preaching to but you sound uneducated
“Adults should not diddle kids”
“You’re hypocritical because gays”
😂😂😂
@@SS0895 you might need to be put down :(
@@SS0895 What a weird thing to say
being an avid watcher of both cody and moist, seeing this vid on my home page was mortifying. never thought i’d see the day.
i know it’s making me so sad
He’s the last person I’d expect to do something like this
Absolutely loved his That's Cringe series with Noel. What a waste.
Bro same and when I saw the title of this video I was like oh no and it turned out to be so bad
RIGHT 😭
I’m 25 rn and teach at a high school. I see 17-18 year old girls every day and when I hear about stories like this, it makes me physically sick to think that someone my age would look at these children with sexual intent
das crazy bro
17 years isn't a child 😂
wtf is wrong with you?
@@KiuLang sorry to offend you but yes, at 17 you are a child
@@KiuLangyes it is
@@KiuLangyes they are?
“There’s no perfect victim” I think that speaks for Tana and how people are dismissing the allegations because of her history. But everyone deserves to tell their side of the story and Cody’s lack there of just makes him look so guilty
You mean the woman whos entire career is based on stories that arnt true and is regularly caught lying......no way, cant imagine why people dont really care. Aside from the fact that in state where is happened it literally isnt a crime and the activity was consensual, so what are we even talking about.
And for the record yes I do think the nationwide AOC should be 18, buts its not.
Nobody is dismissing Tana, if anything, her claims are being taken with a grain of salt. It’s a reap what you sow kind of thing. Now it’s weird as hell that a 25 to be with a 17 yo, but Tana has profited off her lies and scamming her followers and attempted character assassination. At for me, I want legit evidence, no he said she said.
There's a major difference between telling her story versus accusing someone of an actual crime. She needs to take it court. She has a past of lying for attention and causing drama for content. She lacks a credible reputation.
100% they did the same to Trisha Paytas who has been exposing creeps for 14+ years, but yea, she’s a crazy woman, a hysterical woman, so no one should believe her. The patriarchy in action.
Yea I agree and disagree. Until the further evidence I was unconvinced because she's made serious allegations that were lies in the past. There's no perfect victim sure but there's also a story we all heard about crying wolf
Usually states with lower age of consent laws those age of consent don’t apply if you’re over 21. They’re designed so a high schooler doesn’t go to jail for sleeping with their 2 years younger partner
Absolutely incorrect.
@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 absolutely not incorrect. A lot if most states have statutes when they have age of consent under the age of 18 making it null and void to people over 21 to prevent predator pervs like the ones trying to defend Cody Ko.
Age of consent is difficult even in law when it comes to certain cases. Most of the time though, if you are age of consent, you can be with anyone else also under age of consent, no matter the age difference.
However, courts would look at the case specifically and try to identify other markers of power imbalance in a relationship, IE someone being someone's boss, someone being a teacher etc.
But, legally speaking, being a minor, but over age of consent doesn't matter that much in law regarding sexual conduct.
In most states it's 16, another chunk is 17 and the least common is 18. People just use 18 as the overall one because it is the highest and therefore safe in every state age and considered federal age of consent.
There are laws regarding people under age of consent with others also under age of consent, which might be what you were thinking of.
I don't however know how it works if two people from different states with different laws work. I think most courts wouldn't care or take a case, unless there were other legal matters at play between high schoolers of whatever age ranges being with each other. Courts are aware that teens have sex and usually in 3 years or so their age range.
Laws differ in different states and it's considered illegal to try to cross state lines so that the sexual relationship is "legal" in that state. Basically, you'd need to talk to a lawyer to really know or not. Easier to just assume 18.
Second the law specifically pertains to sex consent. It is not illegal to date or have a relationship with someone under consent range. A 15 year old could date a 20 year old so long as sex isn't involved, say in the case of two asexuals or people waiting till marriage or similar. That said, courts would generally doubt that if the people are together that sex or sexual acts aren't involved.
@@vixxcelacea2778 of the states and US territories with consent ages under 18 years 18 of them have age restrictions in which the age of consent is only legal within a certain amount of years, compared to 23 that allow unrestricted at under 18. Of those numbers it’s pretty smart to just assume you at 25 can’t fuck a 16 year old regardless of age of consent. It’s about a 50/50 chance you get got for it.
@@purringbluzzmuffin8030 it is in fact correct, it's called the romeo and juliet law
Trisha Paytas was talking about this on her podcast two months ago. When she was pointing out how Britney Broski won’t work with Tana but will work with her abuser Cody Ko. TWO MONTHS AGO. It’s crazy how long this took to pop off
WOW, yikes brittany
@@buttershy_ classic broski moment :/
Ok let's calm down he's not her "abuser" 😂 from what I've heard it was consensual and tana has been doing what she's doing from way before that point out of her own volition as well. No abusing took place
@@buttershy_ I don't think Brittany knew tho.
@@buttershy_she made a statement on her instagram last night saying she’s disgusted and disappointed
i’m 20 and even now i look back on my 17 year old self and feel so disconnected from that person. you mature so much in those few years. the fact he was 25 is so crazy to me
It’s true, hell even if you’re 18 you’re still just a kid developing your brain and decision making skills. I just turned 26 but when I was 25 I was nowhere around any 18 year olds because to me even they are still minors and what business do I have around them??
I hooked up with a 17 year old when I was 29. Oh, Canada!
@@Silly1336with that logic you should never hang out with someome 10+ years older than you either. And an 80 year pld should nevee talk or be around a 50 year old because of the huge age gap
@@Valchrist1313oh!
@@Valchrist1313 huuuuhh
I think the weird part is the age gap, 17 is like being a junior-senior in high school, 25 is like having a masters in college, the brain development and life experience is the biggest issue here
Why do people always bring up “life experience” because it actually makes no sense.
@@Yumiko-je1toit actually does make sense but it’s okay to not understand everything.
@@Yumiko-je1towhy doesn’t it make sense ? I’ve had five different part time jobs trying to make ends meet since 18 to now 22 . WhT are you SAYING that’s a slither of experience in the real world . A 17 year old has NOTHINF . Poor tana . She needed protection … she’s a real victim . I am in college and see freshmen at 18 and some try get w me and I literally turn away because my god they’re so young and babyish to me. I can’t do it.
Just like Drake and Taylor Swift. Dating 17 year olds in their 20s.
The law doesn't care about what you think.
“Cody Ko is a RUclipsr who probably needs no introduction,” I literally have no fucking idea who that is.
Frr
I had no idea who he was until recently lol
Fr tho 😂
Huh? How?
@@ancarugescu4877 because when you’ve never come across, heard, or seen someone in your life, it’s hard to know who they are.
putting an apology behind a paywall is nuts, like "hey, people, I'll only say sorry if you pay me, only those who pay are worthy of hearing me apologize"
@ANGRYASRIELISTHYLORD-w1uself delete
Yall are dumb lmfao he put it behind a paywall so it wouldn’t get seen by most of his fans that didn’t already know about the controversy. It’s not that complicated
@OfficerMAPPrideOfficialyou’re soooo edgy !!
i feel like he also put the apology behind a paywall because there is an inherent bias in his favor because they are paying for his content, therefore may be less likely to respond negatively? which is foul regardless and it just seems as a way to deflect accountability lol
Well he did it with the n word apology so it's not a new venue for him
this was NOT on my 2024 Bingo Prediction
😂😂
The saddest thing is that it has been out since like 2021 and no one cared back then
I feel like D’Angelo is taking revenge because Cody said N word long time ago foolishly. D’Angelo does not care abt Tanna that much, D’Angelo just want revenge.
Predatorction?
I mean this has been a known thing for years…
I'm so glad you're speaking up about this as your platform is huge. Only you and DeAngelo have the ballz of steel to do it.
The craziest thing is the fact he was stopped and told she was a minor after kissing her and said “thank you for telling me!” and went on to do it with her that night…
THIS!!!! SO RIDICULOUS
He's like, "oh thank God, now I'm really down!"
bro had to make sure🤢
yea this is absolutely wild
Allegedly
As a 25 year old, thinking about sleeping with a 17 year old makes me physically ill.
Exactly!!!!
i’m 19 and i wouldn’t sleep with a 17 year old!!
Finally 🎉❤
Crazy how in Germany this would be normal. Age of consent is 14
@@stillpillow that’s disgusting
i remember being 16 at my first job and hearing how my 24 year old manager would talk about my body and tell others what he’d do to me if it were legal. he’d randomly touch me on the shoulder or neck or act really gross. at the time i was so insanely flattered and naive i took it as a compliment. i’m 22 now and the thought of speaking like that or acting that way towards anyone 20 or under actually makes my skin crawl. do better.
I think these anecdotes are important to share because it can be hard to understand the impact of these types of crimes until you’re the age of the people committing the crimes
Thank you for sharing this, went through something similar at my first job and at the time I thought nothing of it due to my naïveté. I’m 20 now and have matured ALOT, looking back on it makes me feel genuinely sick as to how a 30 year old man behaved towards me when I was 17.
Ignore the weirdos trying to make you sound like you're oversharing or talking about something off-topic. It's absolutely on-topic. This is bigger than just Cody, and Tana has said that herself.
Same bro. 15 year old me was flattered when dudes over 30 would compliment me. Now, at 27, It makes me gag
@@danc8458 get a grip
PSA: 18 being the law for age of consent sets a MINIMUM. Because we have to draw a line somewhere. But 25 yr olds dating 18 yr olds is also fucking weird and maybe go hang out with people your age??? Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s moral. Get a grip.
Again, most of humanity, billions of people, whole regions and countries, would scratch their heads at this "drama" and ask ".. but why?". Are most of humanity wrong and p33dos? Are billions of men p3ddos?
This is the the mcdonalds of youtube, trash shiat content.
@@blaaa22awwwf yeah I think it normalized to take advantage of younger people. So yeah. Why do you think we pick the bear .
Exactly. On average, your brain isn't fully developed until you're around 25 (I usually allow some room for that, so maybe 23-27) from what I recall, and the fact that so many of the internet offenders are in that age range and are just kinda like "yeah I can get away with it if I do this" is fucking crazy. It's a law because you cannot make a properly well thought out decision until your brain develops enough. There's a reason people used to live with their parents 'til they were like 30, AND THE OLDER PEOPLE KNOW THAT
SO THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE YOUNG PERSON
WHO THINKS THEY'RE AWARE ENOUGH TO BE FINE
BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT BEING CONSCIOUSLY AWARE
IT'S ABOUT YOUR O R G A N S G E T T I N G B E E F I E R
😭😭😭😭😭
@@LiaRomanova yap alert
16 is the age of consent in most states
It's not only the age gap, but the power imbalance of the situation. Tana straight up said she "grew up watching him", he was already a big creator when she was a child. How does that not make the situation an automatic "nope"?
She had waaaay more subscribers than him at the time lol, if anything she graped him.
@@pamelapamper you can make a counter argument without running in the complete opposite direction
@@pamelapamperso are you stupid?
@@pamelapamper2/10 ragebait, confused me for a few seconds but it's still below mid. I'd put this in a high F tier.
So she knew who he was and how old he was? At 17 you're legally a minor but youre not a moron. She knew what she was doing. She hasn't stated he forced her into anything. Mind you, I have never heard of this man before this scandal (I think maybe one other time in a podcast I listen to). And I actually kinda like Tana, all her bs aside. I used to watch her often when I was younger. And I remember being 17, I knew right from wrong. I knew what was legal and what wasn't.
I will fully support her if she comes out and states he forced himself onto her. But it takes two to stand in a corner making out at a party. Tana may be dumb, but she's not stupid.
you can 100% tell Gabbie is talking about Cody by the way she impersonates his voice LOL
I didn't even realize it until I rewatched
LMAO true
5:40
holy shit you’re right lmfao
The law doesn't say 17 is close enough, it says 18 or older
It’s very cut and dry
YEP. Otherwise, the age of consent would just be 17!
The age of consent is 16 in the majority of states in America. 31 out of 50. In most of Europe its also around 16, in my home country Australia its 16 in almost every states and 17 in south Australia.
@@yuppieshrink9837But does that mean it's morally correct in those countries? NO, even 18 year olds are still children in my eyes. Instead of having relations with someone that is way below your age (and BELOW the age of consent), have relations with someone that is like idk... the same age as you????
@@Mike-atronwhat about in Texas where the age of consent is apparently 17?
"Kody ko needs no introduction"
Please... Please... I have no idea who this man is...
Diddy, Drake, Dr. Disrespect, Zach Justice, and now Cody Ko 💀 2024 exposing every predator
edit: not even 3 days later…Ava Kris Tyson.
ZACH HUH what did he do???
What happened to Zach justice
@@lionelmessisburner7393so apparently he first met Indiana when she was 14 and he was 21. 😭 brooo
@@alt_ronnieyea but they met because he was hired by her family, and supposedly they only started dating after she was 18
@@God._._._.yeah but it could be considered grooming since he met her when she was 14 and waited until she’s 18
I felt sane hearing Charlie say that he can’t be cool with people who have done some awful things. I have blood family who have done some awful things and people around me choose to ignore it, but I cut them out of my life. It’s crazy how we don’t shun people for shit nowadays and just ignore it.
I've stopped talking to some family members too and it gives your life peace ❤
I completely agree with you on the fact that people should not associate with others who have done deplorable and unforgivable things. Where I do disagree tho is saying in today’s world we “don’t shun people and ignore it”. That’s quite literally the opposite of what the current state of the world is in my opinion. Cancel culture and jumping onto exposing the latest celebrity is more popular than ever.
I think the reality is moreso that today’s world with social media reveals more of those people than it used to. Now we actually have to constantly either make that choice to accept people’s mistakes and still try to support them, or be forced to ostracize and remove those people from our lives.
To me I doubt this stuff happened less often, or was more harshly criticized in previous times. In fact quite the opposite is what’s considered the truth. People used to actually just get away with doing this stuff before and it would just be swept under the rug or never get enough publicity. Hell 30-40 years ago it was still considered normal to be messing around with high school age girls as a grown man.
The reason it seems more prevalent than ever before, is that people actually have a platform which they can use to speak out against these offenders on. More people get exposed for their horrific actions than ever before. It’s really a double edged sword though. Even tho now we have a truer idea than ever of how common grooming, trafficking, pedophilia, and basically all forms of sexual misconduct are (especially amongst the famous/social elites), it also sucks when you were a fan of someone and have to no longer support them because you realize what they’ve done behind the scenes. Especially because of how common it actually is. Glad we get to see who the true nasty people of this world really are, but doesn’t make it easier than the time of the world where this stuff was socially accepted, or didn’t ever have a place to be broadcasted publicly. Could only imagine how much worse things used to be before the current era of social media tho… scary that the world has legitamitely improved sm yet can still be such a bad place.
Don't shun people? Haha what? There are literally thousands of girls on Twitter currently looking for someone to cancel. What do you think cancel culture is?
I think you should try to help those people realize what they did was wrong and to change. And if they continue they’ve consciously made the wrong decisions and it’s okay if you don’t wanna be around them.
@@bruderschweigen6889 Shunning is not the same thing as "canceling", lmfao. Someone getting "Cancelled" literally is a boost to them, lmao.
Im from new zealand were the legal age is 16 for sexual consent and i can honestly say if your 25 and still going for high school girls that are 17 something is seriously wrong in general.
Also now how age of consent works lmao
People don't like admitting that age of consent laws are flawed lol. For example in the Uk it's also 16, but why can't they consent to sex work? It's also about consent isnt' it? Why is it only legal if it's behind closed doors? And why is it illegal for a police officer or teacher to sleep with a 16 year old, but any other person is fine?
Also they're still referred to as "children aged 16 and under" medically. They are kids.
@@HusnaArtz2 Whats the age of consent for gender change surgery in the UK?
@@edwardp7725 Granpa, this is youtube, not google!!!
yup, it’s actually vile if you’re 25 and are attracted to a kid in highschool 🤢
Even at 23 I CAN NOT think of what I could possibly have in common with a 17 year old let alone find them attractive 🤢
most humans on this planet wouldnt care, billions of people. why do you even care about two adults fakking eachother 10 years ago? So silly like who careees
THISSS I think about it all the time, I'm literally 19, and the thought of being with a 17 year old deters *me* 😅
They're living w/ their parents, doing homework, and probably still don't clean the lint trap in the dryer after doing laundry! I'm good, I'll go to a coffee shop or something instead of hanging out in the car pickup line 🤭🫡
@@LiaRomanovaThe internet has really poisoned you brain if the thought of being with a 17 year old at 19 deters you
i saw the video by D’angelo yesterday, and it’s absolutely horrifying that it took until then for me as a longtime cody ko fan to find out about this. this should have been openly and widely discussed a long long time ago
same man. i just unsubbed from all of his related channels
Same, this is disappointing...@@babosanders5223
likewise!! even if it's just allegations, all the censorship of the subreddit and harassment Tana is receiving is enough for me to unsub
Always loved Cody Ko. Probably going to unsub after he addresses it or if his next video on his main channel doesn't address it. For now, I think there are better things to watch.
@@writer5790his content is lazy anyway
D'angelo is such a real one like he's the definition of using your platform the right way
Shut up
he’s always at the front of these issues and isn’t afraid to use his platform to stand up to larger creators
Except he’s using it support a pathological liar named Tana mojo
@@igotthefeelsformomo get a life bro
Love D’Angelo so much
I also hate the whole “17 is basically 18” excuse. Just because you’re freshly 18 does not mean your mind automatically switches onto adult mode and you’re ready to make adult decisions willy nilly. Your mind and psyche are still developing and anyone who preys, yes preys, on a fresh 18 year old is just as disgusting. Especially someone who is years older. There’s a reason why so many things are restricted to 21+. Because you’re basically still a child when you turn 18. So 17 and 364 days or 18 and 1 day is basically the same thing. Disgusting either way.
So why dont we take a look at what the victim has to say 9 years later? Oh wait she said it was consensual, and they are still cool. And the thing thing she hated the most was people not believing her, which is exatly what is happening right now.
@@dertassolast time i checked, a minor cannot consent to sex to an adult. that’s why there are laws against sex with minors, because their minds aren’t developed fully to consent to anything.
@@user-mb7bt How is it then that a European minor can consent? Are we just that much smarter than you Americans?
You’re saying the age of consent should be higher?
Yeah, people don’t seem to understand that 18 is the bare minimum because the line has to be drawn somewhere. Yes, 17 and 364 days is not much different from 18. That doesn’t mean it’s ok for a full grown adult to get with a 17 year old. It just also means it’s weird for a full grown adult to get with an 18 year old.
Everyone's channeling Chris Hansen this year
doesnt matter if 17 is close to 18, he was messing with a high schooler
That’s what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
@@honkhonk5181 ?..
literally americans who dont understand concepts like love and standards in the comment section: if it is 1 second before turning 18 it is the most evil thing in the world, if that second passes and you do a move then, its ok
@@Gnsd45”I know she’s only 14, but we’re in love!” -you
@@eliyarrows2456 except she was 18 you wanna be fortune teller, my turn to play the guessing game "i know she is a run over old ass 3rd rate option, but we are in love! and somehow i feel super bitter when i see people with younger and prettier women so... i ll call them creeps to feel better!" -you
you probably think a woman can do porn when she is of age but god forbid she does this porn with someone who isnt the age that you personaly dont feel comfy with! god forbid that dudes are having sex with hotter women than you can pull!
“We copy cody ko”
NO DANNY, NO DREW.
my sister said that 😂
OH NOOOOO
I WAS THINKING THAT TOOOO I was looking for this comment
😭 😭
Bro can’t comprehend that they all do commentary content
Laws are laws for a reason. Hard cut at 18. And people who line up waiting for girls to turn 18 like a lot of celebrities do is just as fucked up imo
In most states like where tana is from and most countries in the world like where cody is from the age of consent is less than 18. Bro is still a weirdo but it really is a relative crime
I'm doing to do exactly what Charlie mentioned, and be the one to say the '18yr old age of consent' is only for 12 states. 38 of 50 states are 16 or 17. It appears that no one gives a fuck that 50 year old Leonardo DiCaprio has religiously dated 20 and 21 year old women, but Kodyko with the 8 year age gap is simply too much to handle.
@@G82Jessea lot of people think Leonardo is weird too. I see jokes anytime I see anything about him that are making fun of him for dating 20 year olds and then leaving when they are 25. People think he’s weird and I’ve never seen anyone congratulate him for dating young girls. But there is also a big difference, every where in the world 20 and 21 are legal adults, they are 2-3 years older than the legal adult age, Tana in this situation was 17, and he knew that. Cody could have been 4 or 3 years older than her and people would be mad. It’s not the age gap it’s the fact that he was a legal adult, knows the law, was told he was with a high school 17 year old, and still committed a crime. If Tana was 20 and he was 50 none of this would be happening, because they are adults, it’s weird to most, but not illegal.
@@G82Jessebased…
@@3dsfan5the state they were in has 18 as the age of consent
Appreciate and respect you (and many other popular youtubers) using your platform to talk about this. Us talking about these gross people is the only thing that takes away their power. We need to call out people no matter how famous they are
when you’re a teenager it’s “cool” and when you look back on what happened you realize you were taken advantage of. i feel for her, esp with all the “what was she wearing” type responses
but like she still went ahead and did it and she doesn’t even sound like it matters to her. both of them gotta get off the internet
@@cigritgoinShe’s 17, of course she would go ahead and do it. At 12-14 years old I was groomed online, did I know at the time it was wrong? Absolutely not because I was a teenager. Teenagers cannot consent. If something like that happens to you at 17 with a 25 year old, you don’t understand until you hit 25 years old and realize: Wow, 17 year olds are literal children to me.
@@cigritgoinOf course she’d go ahead with it, you don’t understand that shit at 17. When you get older you’ll realize how little understanding you had when you were a minor
@@cigritgoinvictim blaming a minor who didn’t know better is crazy. she’s talked about how her other trauma in her life forced her to grow up fast and being online and in a scene like LA made her feel more mature and independent as so she didn’t see anything wrong with being with someone older until afterwards.
@@vxx3576Legal in the UK, so obviously one of the oldest institutions believes they can.
“She was barely illegal” as a defence is crazy and also exactly the same defence people gave for drake
People who say that are just as sick as everything about that little weasel Drake.
Pretty bad that cody and drake are both Canadian
@reedtheroom9580 so every Canadian is a grapist pdf file now huh?
People make excuses for celebrities, musicians, or content creators they enjoy.
Isn't that barely LEGAL in Canada?
Something that also bothered me about this situation was how Tana’s experience is discredited or brushed off initially since not only is she not well liked but seen as sexual. This just perpetuates that in order to be a victim you have to be the “perfect victim”.
Totally agree, just because shes seen sexual doesn't mean she can't be a victim
@kiamckenz Absolutely. Hypersexuality, particularly at younger than typically average ages, is sometimes a sign of s*x abuse/trauma.
@kiamckenzthis!! I wish people would realize this bc it was sad for me to see her be faulted for it as if her age wasn’t enough.
I think it has more to do with how her entire brand revolves around and only exists because of her most well known trait being a liar lol
@@snowrios8084 Yep, I agree. It doesn't mean she can't be a victim, but her credibility is (rightfully so) practically nonexistent.
When I was 15, a 22 year old dude started showing me lots of attention. He looked very young for his age and he was super sweet and also creepy. Of course at the time I didn’t think he was creepy bc I was “mature” for my age. Went on to date this dude for a year. He suddenly died and I was devastated. His friends got me hooked on pain pills during that time bc they knew I was struggling with depression. I developed a severe addiction that severely affected my life for many years to come. If only I had realized what a creep this guy was. I almost ruined my life grieving over this man that took advantage of me. Absolutely disgusting now to think back on as an adult.
mah you just dumb like why you talking to a 22 year old ?
Someone commented in another video that men turning to “legality” just shows that they would pursue minors if it was legal.
I mean it’s pretty important to talk about what is legal and what is illegal. Courts don’t prosecute based on whether u feel it’s okay or not
The was a survey conducted a while back and they asked men if age of consent didn’t exist how young would they date, the average age was 12. So yes some men are just scared to go to jail.
@@favray I'm sorry but the legal system is a joke. It serves those in power. A lot of legal things are definitely not okay. Considering that our brains finish developing at 25, you're still a child at 17. But since we're talking about legality in this specific case, what Cody Ko did is _illegal_ since the age of consent in CA and FL is 18.
@@servingcant Ugh, my stomach just turned. Basically outing themselves as predators and p*dos.
@@favrayYeah, and it was a LAW in 1940’s Germany to turn in Jewish people. Would you do that, too, just because it was “the law”? The law is black and white and has no room for actual morality, dude. And it’s WILD to say that the court system doesn’t care about feelings when the entire point is to give victims a sense of justice, you know, a FEELING.
Emotions rule more of society than most would like to believe.
the worst part is that he knows what happening and chooses to ignore it and ban/delete comments about this on youtube. And the call out about his friend was also shocking because you DO CHOOSE ur friends.
I mean, the best thing to do is not acknowledge it, especially if it's old news and already bean discussed. It'll stop eventually if you ignore it.
@@Slyslug this whole video is talking about how it hasn't already been discussed, and how it needs to be discussed now because he's been ignoring it forever. That trick isn't gonna work anymore because it's what he's been doing and now the charade is falling apart.
If you read the details about the case with Colby, its absolutely disgusting. He's the child of two well respected Duke professor and alumna. Assault coverups happen far too often in fraternities, and it's written that Colby even showed the video to his friends in the fraternity. Cody, was in the same fraternity. Not trying to allege anything but how and why those guys didn't speak up? It certainly runs in the culture they're in.
And now the comments are being pushed over to his wife’s videos it’s terrible he need own up
You really think he's an active mod if his subreddit? Lol
Huge props to D'Angelo, such a well-crafted, founded and serious approach to this topic. So valuable for victims of all kinds in these areas.
Well crafted is inserting a clip that doesn't mention him by name and then also adding that he's racist and some other guy committed a crime so that must mean that he did?
@@frequentrage3806 What are you talking about? Each situation provides insight into his character, which isn't stellar. Character (or lack thereof) reflects a person's actions, and someone with a track record of bad decisions and apathy is more than likely to continue that sort of behavior.
@@jellybeanchloe6953 you can find a few shitty things that anyone has done in there life, especially someone who’s been in the public eye for over a decade. That isn’t proof of a crime. Just because you cheated on your fourth grade math test doesn’t mean I can lock you up for murder.
@@frequentrage3806Some other guy RAPED a girl and he invited this some other guy as a groomsman to his wedding.
@@jellybeanchloe6953 Great insight, that distinction about how we perceive "character" especially matters when you have a public role, let alone your job depends on that level of "influence."
His silence just says he’s guilty
He obviously is, but i keep wondering how do people expect him to address it honestly. He can't do that - that'd be admitting to statuatory r*pe??? Im not on his side i fully believe that he did it but there is no right way to handle it except going to jail LOL
I mean, it doesn't.
Its the everything else about the situation that all corroborates each other that says he's guilty.
@@llamaczech uuhhhhh and the point of commenting that was??? No duh, but his silence is a big indicator of his guilt. I didn’t say that was the only sign of guilt 🤣
@@mackenzie0802 the point is his silence quite literally isn't an indicator of his guilt. The other stuff that indicates guilt, that stuff indicates guilt.
The only way his silence indicates guilt is if you start inserting conjecture about HOW it means guilt, which you can also do for it meaning he's innocent (which I think you'd agree is bs).
him letting his wife take the heat for his own actions is a new level of disgusting
I looked at the comments on her last video this morning and it's 60% comments about him addressing this.
WHAT?
@@amberevoloh wtf
Wow
Letting his wife take the heat? How can he control comments? You think they will stop if he says something?