Best Type of Cows Milk For Cheese Making

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  • @jasonyem8505
    @jasonyem8505 7 лет назад +11

    PS loved the colored water comment - had me in stiches

  • @jtb9544
    @jtb9544 2 года назад +11

    “I hate two things: liars and skim milk, which is just water lying about being milk.”

  • @L0j1k
    @L0j1k 7 лет назад +2

    Perfect!! I've been waiting for a video like this. Seems like unhomogenized, pasteurized milk with ~4% fat is the ideal. And no additives like gelatin, or milk that's had cream added to bring its fat content up, and homogenized is okay if you can't find unhomogenized. That's good, because where I live I can only get homogenized milk, but otherwise it sounds good. Thanks Gavin!

  • @ireyonmoya
    @ireyonmoya 6 лет назад +3

    Many many thanks!
    I have started to do many things myself again, which I've hardly remembered how to do.
    So many helpful tips and ideas in your videos.
    You've made my family, myself and the organic farmer (5 min. to walk) happy, cause now I buy so much fresh raw milk.
    Greetings from Switzerland

  • @SeanInAlaska
    @SeanInAlaska 5 лет назад +6

    Just saw this and wanted to say thanks! Living in America I was a bit confused by your milk terms until now hahahhaha.....

  • @christait6636
    @christait6636 7 лет назад +1

    Great video to clarify a few things for me. I live in New Zealand and use A2 raw, unhomogenised, unpasteurised milk that I can purchase from a vending machine on the farm. Most recipes mention unhomogenised, pasteurised and I had wondered if my raw milk needed pasteurisation. I'm confident with my supplier's processes so am happy to continue what I've been doing after watching your video. Thanks.

  • @jakoba4272
    @jakoba4272 3 года назад +2

    This man could tell me litteraly anything to me about cheese making and have me interested

  • @duds9814
    @duds9814 3 месяца назад +2

    So bloody useful haveing an Aussie explain this thanks mate 👍

  • @smokenjoe4022
    @smokenjoe4022 2 года назад +4

    Well I’m looking forward to my first attempt at cheese making! Here in Idaho raw milk is legal and I can pick it up close by fresh! Very cool

  • @akosuaokraku8142
    @akosuaokraku8142 4 года назад +5

    So that's why I ended up getting cream cheese from the UHT milk I used. My first time trying to make mozzarella cheese (or cheese of any kind) and I was so disappointed with the outcome. Thanks for the education.

  • @richardbidinger2577
    @richardbidinger2577 5 лет назад +2

    Incredibly helpful video. Since I live in the US, I didn't know how our milk compared to milk in Australia. Our food police can be a little odd here at times, and don't always think we have a functional brain that we can use to think for ourselves. I've never seen any milk sold here above the fat content of whole milk (your alright pick for useable milk), but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, just that I've never seen it. I'll have to look for it now, maybe my local farmers market will carry it. Thank you for all that information, it was a great help.

  • @AvecGracey
    @AvecGracey 4 года назад +5

    Glad I found this video. Thinking of making my own mozzarella while we are on lockdown here in Malaysia but difficult to get my hands on milk other than UHT 😅 at the moment.

    • @supercooled
      @supercooled 4 года назад

      If you can buy milk you can buy cheese. Why complicate things?

    • @AvecGracey
      @AvecGracey 4 года назад +1

      @@supercooled simple reason: I want to learn how to do it myself.

    • @supercooled
      @supercooled 4 года назад

      Avec Gracey I. Add butter once because I was also curious. The yield wasnot that great.

    • @acapyolo8487
      @acapyolo8487 Год назад

      hi from malaysia also 😃👋 glad to see u in comment

  • @fugenturkoglu
    @fugenturkoglu 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for explaining the variety of milk. For me, especially 5th one, Gold, was an eye-opener.

  • @jemmadale4227
    @jemmadale4227 2 месяца назад

    Thank you so much. That was super helpful as I look to make my first cheese. I did look at the farmers own but I also considered the farm house gold. I also have raw milk to use so I’ve learnt a lot just from this video 😊

  • @Linden531
    @Linden531 6 лет назад +1

    You are the authority of cheese...THE HEAD CHEESE. Your channel is a YT gem...love you bro and keep it up!!

  • @beebop9808
    @beebop9808 2 года назад +2

    Don't know about every place in the US and California is likely wacker doodle but here in the southeast, whole milk has always and still is labeled as 4% fat min.

  • @anonynomnomnom
    @anonynomnomnom 7 лет назад +6

    Any chance we could get a tour of the cheese cave? I'd love to see all the cheeses snug in their boxes.

  • @ShawnScaggs
    @ShawnScaggs 7 лет назад +2

    One thumbs down are you serious! Disagree with what he's teaching or what? Everything he said was spot on!
    Excellent video sir!

    • @GavinWebber
      @GavinWebber  7 лет назад

      +Shawn Scaggs thank you. I often wonder why people leave a thumbs down. It make no sense to me.

    • @amyp8162
      @amyp8162 6 лет назад

      Gavin Webber sometimes I thumbs down videos so they stop showing up in my recommended..like those animal cruelty videos with disturbing thumbnails

  • @petersatzer3010
    @petersatzer3010 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks very much Gavin for your excellent instruction videos. I will give cheese making a try in the next couple of weeks, just because of your videos. I love trying out new crafts, and your enthusiasm for cheese is quite contagious. I'm also getting the impression that living near the alps (Austria) and close to a rural area will have it's benefits for cheese making. Standard whole milk in Austria is 3.5% fat (so it should work for most cheeses as far as I understood your videos), and just recently a farmer in my area opened up a 24/7 raw organic milk dispenser with self service (people in Austria like to have organic and fresh food, and that idea seem to sell quite well).
    I most certainly will give some of the easier beginner cheeses you mentioned in another video a try, and who knows, maybe install a cheese cave in the future.
    Many thanks for your nice videos.

    • @GavinWebber
      @GavinWebber  6 лет назад

      It sounds like you will have the best quality milk for your new hobby!

  • @joannesimpson4125
    @joannesimpson4125 4 года назад +3

    Well I am thinking about having a go at cheese making. Great to find an Aussie :-) I will look at your other clips. Thank you

  • @AnthonyFelixCano
    @AnthonyFelixCano 3 года назад +1

    Finally a useful video about milk and cheese! Much thanks good sir

  • @christinamcnellee8786
    @christinamcnellee8786 6 лет назад +2

    Hi There Gavin, I live on the tablelands in Far North Qld, Mugali Creek Milk is also perfect for cheese making.

  • @kyliemark8952
    @kyliemark8952 2 года назад +3

    Very informative and interesting. Also my partner and I had a laugh at your description of skim milk.

  • @Evelynngce88
    @Evelynngce88 4 года назад +2

    I'm starting my cheese making "career" here 😂. First order of the day is to know my milks!
    Next is the culture and rennet and their roles!

  • @bearsbeetsbsgalactica
    @bearsbeetsbsgalactica 7 лет назад +1

    You are brilliant! Thank you for this tutorial, always a treat to watch your videos. Much love from the Philippines x

  • @andyking957
    @andyking957 3 года назад +4

    Raw milk can have some nasty germs like tuberculosis. So here in germany it is only sold directly from farm and the farmer must advertise to pasteurize it. But buying always from the same organic farmer with a quite small herd of ~5 cows i do not care heat treating. Taste is better anyways. And if i need lower fat content, simply let it stand around 1 day, skim the cream and make butter. Then you do not want Industrial butter anymore too.

  • @rainskitchenandgarden
    @rainskitchenandgarden 4 года назад +1

    Thanks Gavin, this video is priceless. I can only get 3.25 "whole" here in Canada, and all of the "creams" I've seen at the grocery store so far have cellulose thickener in them. It really sucks that I can't get pure milk and pure cream! I need to find a farmer and make friends or get my own cow!!! :) I had left you a comment on your Raclette video asking why you think my cheese wasn't melting, well, after seeing this video and doing a lot of research on milk products here in Canada, I think I know it's due to lack of fat and also due to pasteurization and homogenization that kills both the protein structure and destroys the fat in the milk products.

  • @MrFancyFingers
    @MrFancyFingers 4 года назад +1

    Thank you! I’ve had this question on my mind for a year now.

  • @aquino75
    @aquino75 7 лет назад +1

    Very informative video Cheeseman. Definitely one of the first videos an aspiring home cheesemaker should watch. Greetings from sunny Puerto Rico.

  • @graemeross4859
    @graemeross4859 7 лет назад +1

    Brilliant Gavin! I have been following you for some time and am going to start making cheese next year. Had I not seen this video I would have used the Farmhouse Gold so you have saved me from that!! I'll visit your website and stock up on supplies before I get started. Thanks for all your helpful advice.

    • @GavinWebber
      @GavinWebber  7 лет назад +1

      Thanks, Graeme. Glad to be of help.

  • @davidfalk5842
    @davidfalk5842 4 года назад +3

    I made a mozzarella once using skim milk. I did get a good break, but it created a cheese so hard that it broke the food processor when I tried to shred it. Never again. :D

  • @xzavior21
    @xzavior21 7 лет назад +1

    Great video. Love your channel. I have used your mozzarella recipe and instructions many times. This video adds to my knowledge perfectly!

  • @SVENmachine
    @SVENmachine 2 года назад +1

    I don't have the extra money for a cheese making kit...but I love educational videos of useful skills. I would love to see a chart of this information.

  • @jordancave6987
    @jordancave6987 7 лет назад +1

    Coloured water 😂😂😂😂 That was Gold!

  • @lorandoane118
    @lorandoane118 2 года назад

    This was very educational, especially learning about the problems with using UHT milk products.

  • @Neador20
    @Neador20 3 года назад +2

    Great explanation, thanks!

  • @voxchop6175
    @voxchop6175 5 лет назад +4

    The right milk is all about the ratio of Fat to Protein around .80 is good (as your Choice is at .81) As a cheese marker I never see fat at less than 4.3 % and can get up too as high as 6% my advice for any one getting in to to this is to use the Pearson Square to work out your ratio for whole milk, cream, water. www.cheesescience.org/ is a great website to learn more about cheese making.

  • @SewWhatMaryborough800plus
    @SewWhatMaryborough800plus 6 лет назад

    Thank you Gavin. Haven't made much cheese over winter and now that I am back into wanting to make some we discovered that we now can't get unhomogenised milk at our local Woolies or even our Coles, IGA, or Aldi stores :(
    Wayne and I have been looking at what we can now use and this video helps a lot.

  • @albertvalencia4968
    @albertvalencia4968 7 лет назад +1

    Another great tutorial! Thanks Gavin.

  • @rftott
    @rftott 7 лет назад

    Hi, Gavin. I'm a huge fan of your channel. About skimmed milk, all processed milk are first skimmed, and then homogenized with the fat (cream). As it is very difficult to find unhomogenized milk, and homogenized milk produces a cheese that tastes buttery, I'm now using skimmed milk and cream to make my cheeses, and with great results.

    • @GavinWebber
      @GavinWebber  7 лет назад

      Great tip Rogerio. How many mls of cream are you adding per litre of skimmed milk? I would like to try it.

    • @rftott
      @rftott 7 лет назад

      Hi, Gavin. It varies. I Have done some tests. First, i did a camembert using 3 Liters of skimmed milk and 500 mililiters of cream (35% fat). It was great. Then I did another batch using 4 liters os skimmed milk to a liter of cream (35%). Also very good, and very soft. Now i'm thinking about doing some queso fresco using 5 L of skimmed milk and 500 ml of cream (35%).

  • @justinread4381
    @justinread4381 5 лет назад

    Ok Gavin are you now reading my mind ? Lately I have been thinking of giving cheese making a go and I have wondered what milk is best. Keep up the fantastic work. You are the king of the Curd nerds lol.

  • @gregcossey545
    @gregcossey545 6 лет назад

    Great video. Very informative so that I could relate it to our dairy levels here in Canada.

  • @gigracer
    @gigracer 4 года назад

    There’s a local milk producer in Beaudesert, Qld who built his own dairy and is stocked quite widely in southeast Qld. It’s non-homogenised, pasteurised milk and delicious. Great for cheese making. The brand is 4Real milk. They also make cream and cheese.

  • @1tinac
    @1tinac 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for sharing. I am doing research for making here in the U.S.

  • @KironVB
    @KironVB 6 лет назад +2

    Tilba Jersey Cow milk. you can get it from IGA. Absolutely God tier milk.

  • @Charliechorizo
    @Charliechorizo 3 года назад +3

    Norma full cream milk has significantly higher fat content than typical dairy farmers milk. I simply assume,the more fat, the tastier the cheese.

  • @PeterEmery
    @PeterEmery 7 месяцев назад

    Since this video came out, the Farmers' Own brand has been discontinued. There has however been a proliferation of Jersey milk producers, and as Jersey milk is very high in milk solids, the light version has around 2g of fat per 100 ml while having similar milk other solid content as full cream milk.

  • @victoriasophiaysabelleelis3489
    @victoriasophiaysabelleelis3489 6 лет назад

    Thank you gavin for sharing your and teach us to make cheese thank you. God bless your heart gavin.

  • @ciliann
    @ciliann 4 года назад +1

    For a camembert recipe - I wanted to know what yield (final product) would I expect from using 2 Gallons of milk if
    1. Using store-bought pasteurized (not ultra or homogenized) full fat (3.25-3.4%)
    2. Using Raw Milk that I pasteurize myself (slow, 145 Fahrenheit half-hour, then cooled)
    There is a big difference in price (where I live) and I wanted to know if it's worth it from a price standpoint.
    Whether it is worth it from a price point - How different is the final product taste (could make it worth it even if the yield difference doesn't cover the cost difference)?
    Thank you for these great videos.

  • @HydroponicBackyardGiantsWA
    @HydroponicBackyardGiantsWA 7 лет назад

    Luckily I stumbled onto farmers own at woolies! Good video to see! I'll use that cream for my next Brie

  • @Artisan855
    @Artisan855 Год назад +5

    Here in the US, it can be difficult to find real cream that is not Ultra Pasteurized. When I go to Sam's Club or Costco, all that they have is Ultra Pasteruized, so I have to go to smaller grocery stores to try and find thick whipping cream. Can you use cream that has been frozen and then thaw it to use in cheesemaking?

    • @GavinWebber
      @GavinWebber  Год назад +2

      Not sure, never tried that.

    • @warrenhawk223
      @warrenhawk223 7 месяцев назад

      Absolutely not. Cream falls apart and separates if you freeze it. It’s not terrible if you’re cooking it anyway but not useful as raw cream.

  • @firefighter1797
    @firefighter1797 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks so much for this Gavin! The U.S. does not commonly label milk like you have shown they do in Austrailia. I was never really sure where to start when dealing with U.S. milk. Thanks so much for a fantastic tutorial.

  • @cynsini9211
    @cynsini9211 4 года назад +2

    I am grateful for this, it is educational as - is, but I would dearly like to see this done for North American markets. Even though you have different markets and brands, the customary measures and milkfats are recognizable, and since our "whole" is less fatty than oz's, and in the US we rarely double pasteurize, I'd love to know store bought types I could try for cheese making. Thanks in any case for all the shared wisdom!

  • @marcuspi999
    @marcuspi999 3 года назад +2

    I'm lucky where I live (Camano Island, WA, USA). We have a dairy farmer who sells raw Guernsey milk. Raw meaning no homogenization and no pasteurization. Plus, Guernsey cows have super high protein content and fat content.

    • @acapyolo8487
      @acapyolo8487 Год назад

      does raw milk can use to make cheese?

    • @marcuspi999
      @marcuspi999 Год назад

      @@acapyolo8487 Of course. Raw milk makes the best cheese. Cheese predates pasteurization and homogenization by nearly 8000 years.

    • @acapyolo8487
      @acapyolo8487 Год назад

      @@marcuspi999 ouh tq for the info, by the way hw to get raw milk in good quality ? does the cow play a role?

    • @marcuspi999
      @marcuspi999 Год назад

      @@acapyolo8487 It certainly does. Where are you located? I only know information in the Pacific NW of USA and the west coast. But if you don't have anything in your local store, I would look up a dairy and go ask them. Really small dairies will probably give you the best information. Also, raw milk is illegal some places in the USA, I know, but not sure in other countries.

    • @acapyolo8487
      @acapyolo8487 Год назад

      @@marcuspi999 ouh tq bruh for the info, im located in malaysia. i just want to make a research about cheese for my assignment . Bruh why not we discuss to the next step more bout cheese if u dont mind :)

  • @robk8552
    @robk8552 2 года назад

    Very interesting and helpful for a beginner, many thanks ,Bob

  • @jpnc1196
    @jpnc1196 6 лет назад

    whew... I was about to buy any milk from the grocer. Luckily you provided that milk info. Thanks

  • @terranceriggs578
    @terranceriggs578 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the info from Texas

  • @helloshiny8475
    @helloshiny8475 3 года назад

    Thanks Gavin, interesting, curious about storing raw milk now. New stuff to investigate. Ta.

  • @Lance-Stroll
    @Lance-Stroll 7 лет назад +3

    I live around Amish and we can get raw milk, pretty readily. Great for cheese. Like drinking paint tho 😂😂

  • @PeterEmery
    @PeterEmery 7 месяцев назад

    I can get two brands of unhomogenised milk locally with a fat content of 4.3 g/100ml. Another goes as high as 4.5. One of the 4.3g brands uses milk from a mixed herd of Jersey, Friesan and Illawarra cows.

  • @CeramicQuill
    @CeramicQuill 4 года назад +2

    2:45 Swanson would be proud of you

  • @lisabooker6405
    @lisabooker6405 7 лет назад

    Excellent tutorial! Thank you!

  • @brendamarshall-lewis5093
    @brendamarshall-lewis5093 2 года назад +1

    I am just learning about cheese making, I was given a cheese making kit and am finding that for the most part is almost useless with low minimal amount of milk level, 900 milk so less yield. But what I wanted to know is I love Babybel cheese is it possible to make that at home, parmesan, feta and a few other types of cheese that is the extent of my knowledge, you know love melted cheese sandwiches etc., As I have said I am ignorant about cheese though I’ve always dreamt of making my own. I of course do not have a cheese cave and apart from what is in the kit have no equipment

  • @fluffystarburst818
    @fluffystarburst818 6 лет назад +1

    All of the Woolworths in England close down about 15 years ago I loved going as a child you could get alsorts I still have a baby’s Toy that’s 19 years old and still look new even thou about 6 littlens have used it and a dog

  • @gorgana5
    @gorgana5 4 года назад +1

    Very informative and answered many of my questions thank you. Can you also do that with the cultures you use and the amount please again thank you. We are in prep learning how to make cheese . I would like to attempt to make swiss cheese as it is one of my fav. What is cc in measurements?

  • @phyllisdenton8771
    @phyllisdenton8771 6 лет назад

    Love watching you make cheese.

  • @brega6286
    @brega6286 2 года назад

    GoldenGuernsey cow whole milk.(USA) ..was so wonderful. Have not seen it in many years. In Africa my Dad made cheese (sort of a mozarella.) when we only had that lousy boxed milk and I cannot...he must have been adding something !

  • @XarryKlynn
    @XarryKlynn 4 года назад +2

    Nice presentation my friend. I used to work in a dairy factory in Greece, most of the cartons of milk have at the bottom numbers from 1-5 if a number is missing the number that is missing is how many times the milk has been processed, there is also a same pattern with five different colors. I always check the milk that I buy to be 1 or 2 times processed.

  • @triadwarfare
    @triadwarfare 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the video. It's just sad that it's very difficult to get a hold of non-UHT milk in my country, but I will try to make my own cheese. I'll start with Ricotta/cottage cheese as it's the most simplest one and I need it for Lasagna.
    Time to say goodbye to Processed cheese. You won't be missed.

    • @ShootMyMonkey
      @ShootMyMonkey 6 лет назад

      You can also make Paneer with UHT milk. Main thing whether it's Paneer or Ricotta is that you're relying on an external source of acid be it vinegar or lemon juice. Here in the U.S., UHT is the default mode of pasteurization AFAIK because it's cheap to do and is very energy efficient (when done in high volume, that is), and milk is generally not labeled whether it uses one type of pasteurization or another (though cream generally is). As a result, the best milks for cheese-making are the specialty brands (similar in spirit to that Farmhouse Gold) that cost so much that you don't ultimately save any money by making your own cheese unless you're making some very specific/unique variety that is extra expensive.

  • @bradsummers8916
    @bradsummers8916 5 лет назад

    Really helpful video. I've been interested in making my own cheese but unsure the milk to use for it. The only milk I've seen in my area so far that might work is just basic homogenized milk. Their might be something else in the organic section I didn't see but I hope the homogenized milk will work.

  • @krankywitch
    @krankywitch 7 лет назад

    Interesting that you say Farmer's Own is #1 for cheesemaking. I've never had a success with it - never had a curd set over at least 10 batches. I've suspected it is because it is standardised milk with cream added back. Perhaps Farmer's Own is processed differently in NSW? Anyway, I use Tilba Unhomogenised Jersey Milk - it is from an independent dairy, pasturised, but at the lowest legal/safe temperature of 62c (the closest I can get to legal raw milk), which makes it ideal for curds and cultures as the proteins have not been killed off and it still has all the calcium, and it's 4.5% fat. You're right about Gippsland Dairy Double Cream being very difficult to blend back into the milk - I have been using it to make icecream and it takes forever to get it well blended for the custard. I'll try out that Bulla Pure for the next batch. Love your work, keep it up please :D

    • @Matt_H_26
      @Matt_H_26 7 лет назад +1

      krankywitch That's really interesting, I've never had an issue with Farmers Own. The last batch of cheese I made had an amazing amount of curd. I do use the Victorian milk so I wonder if you're right about it being produced differently?

    • @krankywitch
      @krankywitch 7 лет назад +1

      Perhaps it's processed differently? I'm sure with the volumes they produce, FO must have more than one facility. I persisted for a while as I'm aware that there are seasonal differences in milk. Autumn and Winter milk is never as good as late Spring and Summer milk because the pasture changes - Summer grasses are much richer and more nutritious, which is why many dairies have to supplement feed through the colder months. I really notice that when frothing milk for my coffee - I get a much better 'head' in summer. This morning I've whipped up a batch of Quick Mozzarella for pizza tonight - I used Tilba milk and it has come out great, but not as fantastic as is does through summer. I put it down to being winter, plus the NSW South Coast has been drier than usual this season, therefore the feed is different and the milk will be different. For any curd nerds within range of the Tilba supply, it is a real cheese makers milk as the dairy produces it with cheese making in mind. They make a great range of cheeses and run classes at their dairy.

  • @BBWboobie
    @BBWboobie 6 лет назад

    lol my ex used to work for Bulla in their NSW outlet ..my fridge used to be so full of cream that to get rid of it we either froze it or made butter from it , mostly it was the first bulla cream u picked up the one with the red label

  • @janorgoddard1861
    @janorgoddard1861 6 лет назад

    Cheers Gavin very informative and my choice of milk for my coffee, looking at making mozzarella so I'll be checking out your vids.

  • @Krillekris
    @Krillekris 4 года назад

    Nice guide. It answered my questions.

  • @reemalnaji2280
    @reemalnaji2280 6 лет назад

    Thank you Gavin, i like the video it's the most informative video i ever watch

  • @cyndiharrington1751
    @cyndiharrington1751 3 года назад

    Thanks for the heads up INFO...

  • @thatonedog819
    @thatonedog819 6 лет назад

    It's worth mentioning that different breeds of cow give different fat contents of milk. Most milk is from Holsteins which has a pretty low fat content. But brown Swiss has a fat content of 4.6% on average (which is where that second to last milk may have come from). They are the second most popular breed of dairy cow here in the US as well! So if you know what cow your milk is coming from....

    • @danielturner9832
      @danielturner9832 6 лет назад

      The cattle I plan to milk can give a 4.5% butterfat content. I read they get it from the Angus side of the cross. The Angus/Holstein calves I bought are not kept by the dairy farmers.

  • @RoflmayoMan
    @RoflmayoMan 7 лет назад +1

    Very helpful video as always Gavin, I always wondered which milks to use. Just put in a couple Camembert into my cheese fridge today, they looked very official. A nice change after my Gouda failed. Quick question, what would cause a slight bitterness in a semi-hard cheese? Would it be over-acidification or something else? Cheers

    • @GavinWebber
      @GavinWebber  7 лет назад

      Usually, bitterness is caused by either too much whey in the curds, or using too much rennet to set the curd.

  • @FooodConfusion
    @FooodConfusion 3 года назад +1

    Lovely explanation, that means UHT kills goods bacteria and culture that reacts with citric to make curds please correct me?

  • @AnimeOtakuDrew
    @AnimeOtakuDrew 2 года назад +2

    Very informative, but it leaves me wondering a bit with some thing here in the US. Some is rather obvious, like skim milk being a non-starter, and in place of your "Lite Milk" we have 1% milk, which would clearly not work well because of the low fat content. However, in between our 1% milk and what we call "Whole Milk" over here (presumably equal to what you are calling "Full Cream Milk"), we have 2% milk. And it's a little deceptive when looking at your videos. The lid and label colors have pretty much become standardized across brands here so the light blue (similar to your lite milk) is 1%, but the darker blue (same blue as your full cream milk) is 2%, and red is whole milk. Because of the standardized colors for the different milk types here, I was actually thinking you usually used 2% milk until watching this video because it's the same color as our 2% here. Then there are heavy cream and whipping cream (or "Heavy Whipping Cream"), which I'm not sure whether they truly fall into the cream category with your "Pure Cream" or if they are somewhere between milk and cream (I know they are actually liquid, and tend to be only slightly thicker than milk). So, because you don't have (or at least didn't mention) equivalents to some of these, I have to wonder about their utility in cheese making. With the milks, as I'm sure you can guess, 1% milk contains 1% milk fat, 2% milk contains 2% milk fat, whole milk contains the whole amount of fat naturally found in the milk. Nice and simple. Obviously whole milk would be better since none of the fat is removed, but it should (in theory) have twice the yield of 1% milk, so would it be viable to use in cheese making? I ask because 2% is the milk we generally buy in my household. Additionally, the whipping cream is generally sold in pint or quart cartons rather than small tubs like the varieties you're showing, which leads me to believe they are something different than what you're referring to. This makes me wonder whether the heavy cream, whipping cream, or heavy whipping cream would be a suitable additive for the cheeses you spoke of that require additional fat, or if they would actually be suitable to use as a base instead of milk. Like I said, your video is very informative, but it leaves me wondering about items that are readily available to me but which have no apparent parallel in what you've discussed. I hope yo might be willing to address those at some point.
    EDIT: Clearly the milk in Australia is packaged by intelligent people who use a reasonable baseline of 100 mL to convey the amount of nutrients it contains. Here in the US food products are packaged by idiots who have decided to use arbitrary and variable "serving" amounts and give the values per serving, not by conveying what percentage of the product each item comprises, but rather by what percentage of the recommended daily consumption of that item the amount in one serving of the product contains. Confusing, I know. For example, on a one quart carton of heavy whipping cream, it says that a "serving" is one tablespoon or 15mL, and that the fat content per serving is five grams or 6% of the daily recommended value (it also lists ingredients as "heavy cream, skim milk, contains less than 1% of: mono and diglycerides, polysorbate 80, carrageenan"). For comparison, a gallon of whole milk shows a serving size of one cup or 236 mL and says the amount of fat per serving is 8 grams or 10% of the daily recommended value. These arbitrary and inconsistent serving sizes, along with the fact that values are given as percentage of recommended intake rather than percentage of the whole product, makes it extremely difficult to determine how one product compares to another of a different name. I'm convinced that it is intentionally designed to be convoluted and hard to understand, but hopefully the explanation and examples given will help you figure out what is what and which items would be suitable for use in cheese making. At least the naming of the milk varieties make things clear for them!

  • @lynbar08
    @lynbar08 6 лет назад +1

    Jersey milk can often be up to 6% or above naturally without human intervention.

  • @paulcarrier2424
    @paulcarrier2424 3 года назад +3

    Great vid thanks mate! I'm in Canada so all these kinds are different. If I get you, the crucial thing is no or low heat pasteurization? and then fat content? Cheers!

    • @GavinWebber
      @GavinWebber  3 года назад

      Yes, correct

    • @paulcarrier2424
      @paulcarrier2424 3 года назад

      @@GavinWebber went to the store in the meantime and they all say pasteurized, no indication of high or low temp. I may try to find a small producer. Will be getting some rennet when I get to the city. Thanks for all the info!

  • @paynesm2
    @paynesm2 3 года назад +2

    This has probably been answered but In the USA many of our standard (not ultra) pasteurized "whole milk" has vitamin D added. Is that a problem for cheese making?

  • @ot0m0t0
    @ot0m0t0 7 лет назад

    This should be the video with most views.

  • @BarrySuridge
    @BarrySuridge 6 лет назад

    I think you'll find the labelling laws require the description as per Farmhouse Gold. It reminds me of the milk I used to get at school many moons ago. I'd hazard a guess that it is Jersey milk.

  • @Raul28153
    @Raul28153 4 года назад +1

    I don't believe they use Gelatin to thicken cream here in the USA. I haven't seen it.
    I was interesting in adding cream to milk so Thanks for that Mate.

    • @buckbuckleyson2259
      @buckbuckleyson2259 4 года назад +1

      they sometimes use starch from plants, like corn starch, cheaper than gelatin

  • @markmcnair5864
    @markmcnair5864 6 лет назад +1

    Super informative!

  • @MysticKnight38
    @MysticKnight38 7 лет назад +1

    I grew up on raw milk. It is one of the perks to being a farm kid. That being said you will never get raw milk in a store. No, it is not some government mind control thing. It is basic math however. When I was a kid the milk came from the cow, stained through a cloth, and into the fridge. The path of store milk..... At any point from the time it leaves the cow to the time it hits your lips it can be concatenated. The longer it takes the bigger the risk, it is that simple. As Gavin said if you want raw milk find a farmer you can trust and go from there it may take a bit of leg work, but the option is there. lol I think it would be funny watching someone hand milk a cow that has never done it before.

    • @MysticKnight38
      @MysticKnight38 7 лет назад

      Ya, I just threw that in there to stir up the conspiracy types. Some peeps thing strange thoughts that go well beyond skeptical. Back before pasteurization it was not rare for people to get sick from contaminated milk. It is very bad for business to make your customers sick and they stop being your customer when you do.

    • @quirty864
      @quirty864 7 лет назад

      Drivel

  • @JenSpice
    @JenSpice 5 лет назад

    So much great information! ❤️ Jen

  • @buckeyeone
    @buckeyeone 7 лет назад

    Hi Gavin. I enjoy your videos. Have you made Délice de Bourgogne? I would love to see a video on this...one of my favorites. Thanks.

  • @dherman0001
    @dherman0001 2 года назад +1

    NIDO, the most globally available dry whole milk is the only milk readily available in some Island nations and remote communities. I take it camping. It tastes like rich whole milk.
    I wonder how it would perform with cheese?

    • @XiangnuKhaan
      @XiangnuKhaan 2 года назад

      I wonder how it would taste for making ice cream

  • @garrymcgaw4745
    @garrymcgaw4745 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for those tips Gavin, I'm just starting to make my own mozzarella, where can I get calcium chloride from and why do I need it?. Cheers mate from Adelaide :). By the way. I love your vids so keep up the good work.

  • @salom1470
    @salom1470 4 года назад +1

    great content. thanks.

  • @mazzloked
    @mazzloked 7 лет назад

    Hey Gav, thanks for the video! Just a heads up though that Coles and Woolies full cream milk can sometimes struggle to set a curd even with calcium chloride. After speaking with some others in the cheese community on the north east coast we found that the big 2 supermarkets sometimes mix left-over UHT milk with the regular full cream milk.
    Depending on your woolies or Coles Norco, and Dairy Farmers are the best budget choices at around $1.50/L

    • @GavinWebber
      @GavinWebber  7 лет назад +2

      Thanks for the recommendations. I wasn't aware that they were sneaky like that.

  • @nabriss
    @nabriss 6 лет назад

    Thanks gavin for this very useful video, I have learned too much from you tutorial, but I still have a question, about making cheese from powdered milk.

  • @kx4532
    @kx4532 Год назад +1

    USA has the finest careeganen sauces. We call it Cream.

  • @thebetterbob
    @thebetterbob 6 лет назад

    Thanks Gavin!

  • @warrenhawk223
    @warrenhawk223 7 месяцев назад +1

    Would using skim or partly skim plus heavy whipping cream to get the correct fat content be better than homogenized milk?

  • @ehguacho2008
    @ehguacho2008 6 лет назад

    hello from argentina mr! in first im pleased to say that im amazed about your vast knowledge about cheese, im just starting to craft and you have been a brigth light. now that being said, i would like to know if adding cream to a UHT homegeneized milk would turn it into a decent milk to make cheese. thanks in advance and keep up these superb videos you upload! (:

    • @joshharris3040
      @joshharris3040 4 года назад

      You may have already found this out by now, but I'm pretty sure that would not work. Once a milk has been ultra-pasteurized, it can't be recovered for cheese-making. The denatured proteins aren't going to go back to their original state.

  • @michaelhay260
    @michaelhay260 2 года назад +1

    Hi Gavin, So if making Parmesan, you say 14 litres of 2% milk, can you use 10 litres of lower fat and add 4 litres of high fat? to roughly equate to the 2%, what would be the +/- tolerances.
    Best Wishes from Scotland.