@Luna R i think he talked about how arthur development character was really incomplete and how camelots dungeons are the worst, i dont remember what interview was sorry
Yeah for one, morgana wouldn't have had that tragedy of a personality change... I always disliked just HOW evil she became. And so fast. For relatively shit reasons if im renembering correctly
I love that you can tell that the actors were all avoiding giving a straight answer because they didn't want to get in trouble but then at that last commentary julien was like "you know what? fuck it. they're in love" and katie was like "oh good so i can say that now?"
I thought they just didn’t say that cause Bradley and Colin were uncomfortable with the idea. No proof of that, that’s just how it always seemed to me. Kind of like with “Larry” Louis and Harry from one direction
@@laurenmichael3472 you mean Collin, Bradley seemed all for it. Louie and Harry weren't uncomfortable with Larry until their bosses kept intervening otherwise they always through nods at it and joked about it
It seems Colin was the one who was uncomfortable with it and in denial, no? Every time Bradley is asked, he gives a full and honest response. Colin seems to react and remain unresponsive. I WONDER WHY!!!!
My FAVORITE part was In the context in which he said there is no homoerotic undertone, it was immediately followed by him being called out for not being genuine and being sarcastic lol
I'm sorry but is no one talking about Tom's reaction to finding out about the other ships? I'm sorry but him saying "Perwaine" made me laugh so damn hard.
No one can understand the Merthur shippers better than katie , oh god she is such a sweetheart, and thank you admin for uploading this, just simply loved it.
I can't believe I'm hearing the words "I love you, Merlin" from Bradley's mouth. 🙀😭 I'm screaming and this video is perfect in every possible way. Just...thank you. ❤️
no surprise for me. the way Bradley makes his character look at Merlin all the time. maybe it's not Arthur who has the look of love on his face when watching Merlin, maybe it is Bradley genuinely happy to have the privilege of working with Colin all day long. Colin probably is the source of constant joy to have around, his strange humour (from Bradley's p.o.v.), seeing his talents at work, his dedication etc. is there anyone who didn't instantly fall in love with Colin once you met him?
There are some actors when their character is shipped with another same-sex character that don't handle it too well. It's understandable to a point as it can become quite uncomfortable when fans make a huge deal about it, but this cast handles it so respectfully, they state clearly that they're friends, but aren't unwilling to listen to fans perspectives on it and to understand their position, i really appreciate it. A lot better than the supernatural cast, that's for sure.
The Supernatural cast certainly has the two extremes. Jensen is very uncomfortable and tries to avoid it, and Misha feeds the fandom and regularly spouted how in love Cas was
I was thinking the same thing, the Merlin cast were more willing to listen to fans opinions and perspectives. And I agree with @Tiffany Marie, the actors (Jensen and Misha) are quite polar opposites in the way they deal with it.
The question is this: If Merlin or Arthur had been female, would Merthur have been canon? The answer is yes. So that means that regardless of gender, it should be seen as a romance
@@hadrianuscaesare4918 again, I didn’t say anything about friendship. I asked if Merlin or Arthur were female, would they have had a romantic relationship? If everything stayed the same, except it would have been hetero. Would it have been canon if it wasn’t gay?
@@hadrianuscaesare4918 Lol its clear That They Didn't End up Together Because its A Bromance BUT If is a Straight romance They would have been together That's what they are saying WHICH IS UNFAIR The Series says All they love each other beyond friendship if it weren't for Gender boundaries Cause You know HOMOPHOBIC People still exist.
The answer would absolutely be yes! Especially if you take into account the insane amount of on-screen chemistry Merlin and Arthur have, and apply that to the scenario of 'if either of them were female' as well.
Bradley definitely seems way more comfortable with Merthur than Colin does. Which I understand but Merlin’s endless devotion and dedication to Arthur is what drives 70% of the buzz. It’s just counter intuitive. And probed that they’re great actors. Bradley is more quick to say that Arthur loved Merlin even though Arthur would self combust from the thought of sharing his emotions
Arthur certainly is emotionally stunted. the whole show revolves around Merlin constantly saving Arthur from the threat of the week, often deadly. Bradley certainly is not Arthur and can freely share his views of the relationship. poor Colin can't give in to fan sentiments of _Merthur_ no matter how devoted his character is to his prince/king. even the showrunner was made to backtrack from his DVD commentary three weeks later when the show was already wrapped up, imagine Colin had said anything of the sort during filming
@@UnBesoDeCristal well, it all happened 10yrs ago. the show was wrapped up and one of the showrunners and Kathy McGrath were commenting the final two-parter for its DvD release. on it, Julian (I believe) was responding to Kathy's banter about _Merthur_ and he admitted they (the writers) viewed it [by now] as two men in love. not in the DvD commentary, but Bradley somewhere said his character's final line was dubbed in post-production. if you look closely, instead of 'Thank you' his lips could have said something akin to 'I love you'. anyway, three weeks later the showrunner had to retract his comment. it still got pressed on DvD though.
Yeah I noticed that Colin seemed a lot more quite when it came to the whole shipping aspect of Merlin and Arthur, and I was surprised because I would’ve thought it to be the other way around.
@@PhysicallyAwake to be fair Collin is a lot more introverted than the rest of the cast.... Which is kinda ironic considering he's an actor... 🤔... But Collin doesn't really do social work unless he has to and irl trys to avoid attention.
I love hoe the interviewer said: "what would you choose the romans with gwen or the bromance with merlin" and that Bradley said: romance with Merlin not even bromance he knew what he was saying
They are both two very captivating actors..like magic they made everyone fall in love with them.. especially Colin..he will always be the once and future MERLIN..
Someone suuurely has used the soundbite of Bradley saying “I love you Merlin” in a fan made video, editing it so Arthur actually looks like he says it to merlin. Surely!
the bastards (writers/producers) never even gave us a kiss on the forehead. for 5 seasons Merlin was giving his all to save Arthur from who knows what; there would have been countless opportunities for Arthur to show his gratitude in an affectionate way. but no, nothing. _one hug_ in five seasons and Merlin didin't even remember this one, because the _formorrah_ was possessing him.
Down with toxic masculinity! A hug and a kiss in affection, especially whilst dying is completely more than far to show between these two! In old literature noone batted an eye at that stuff!
Yeah Katie is just so refreshing to listen to when talking about queer readings of shows (that she's in) because she always supports it, gives the fans the power to read it that way, and doesn't make them (us, lol) feel stupid for it. Of course, she can't outright say anything big because she's under contract and stuff, but with how much she's allowed to say she always always makes me feel validated/supported. She's on our side, or at least makes us feel that way.
I think they're not allowed to state certain things publicly about the characters and also, sadly, they can't participate in the story-writing. But Katie said once that her dream is to become a writer, and hell yeah, she should. About Supergirl, I'm pretty sure the actors/actresses weren't allowed to say a word about Supercorp; I even read Katie and Melissa were asked by the producers to not do anything in public that could be interpreted as gay (no stares, no holding hands, no touching, no whispering in the ear). Maybe we have to wait for another ten years until they confirm the obvious. I would like to know why they said no to supercorp. I still don't get it. So many lgbt++ characters in the CW except for the only one everyone was asking for.
she was asked during an interview what career she would pursue if she wasn't an actress, and she answered that, as she likes writing and reading, she would have been a journalist. Later on, when asked if she would direct someday, she said that she would prefer to be a screenwriter. Don't remember which interview it was, but you'll find it for sure
Julian: It's totally hetero Julian: there are NO metaphors here Julian:.... Julian: also they love each other and cradle each other and it's a love story and yea
the way colin dismisses merthur so quickly cus its so awkward for him is hilarious hes like “yeah laugh at me and my MATE being caring FRIENDS. KATIE.”
Colin was probably aware of the view among BBC execs and knew he was going to work with them many times in the future. however, compared to Bradley, Colin very courageously took on challenging roles in films like _The Happy Prince_ or _Benjamin_ and kissed quite a few guys on camera.
@@embreis2257 yeah but these were all canon roles so he didnt mind talking about them but merthur was probably just different to him since he and bradley are just friends and werent told to do anything romantic
@@breadmayhem that's one way of looking at his reaction. the other is: Colin got this title role of a _Matter of Britain_ character for a BBC family show at the age of 22, just after finishing drama school and 2 theatre gigs and this Christmas special for BBC Northern Ireland or his guest role on _Dr Who_ . he probably didn't want to stir up any trouble. and adding more gratuitous Merthur stuff into his acting or even talking about 'Merthur' in public like confirming anything intentional is bound to cause a stir. maybe Colin was warned by colleagues to tread carefully, maybe he did it on his own (him being a Catholic Irish boy with a thick accent who knows he has to work with the BBC quite a lot in future). anyway, he was dead right. Julian, one of the showrunners, who pitched the show to the BBC and wrote many scripts for Merlin, did the DVD audio commentary for the final two-parter together with Katie. his admission during those final scenes about 'Merthur' caused him trouble even right after wrapping up the show and he had to retract his remarks a few weeks later. a showrunner! imagine what could have happened if Colin had dared anything like it. the BBC sold the show to around 180 countries, most of them frightfully bigoted. but even many parents in the UK would have written angry letters to the BBC if Merlin and Arthur had shown anything 'romantic' between them.
1:54 I was curious who said this part. Allegedly, according to an online post, it went like this: Question asker: you could be gay icons then? Johnny Capps: they're already gay icons!
🚨Disclaimer! Please read below ⬇️ In the video Julian is talking to Katie about Morgana & Morgause’s “lesbian undertones”. For RELATED half sisters to be written in that way is VERY WRONG and comes off as f3tishizing. I didn’t realize to later putting the clip in that it could be potentially took the wrong way (as it to be funny or a good thing) or people would just overlook it. Julian has said even more things about it in that commentary that I didn’t put in the video that are more graphic.
In many old arthuruan tales morgana and morgause are often arthurs galf sisters and mordred is the son he conceives with one of his half sisters. Those are more disturbing than lesbisn undertones of 2 half sisters whom we are not even sure are half sisters.
I didn’t know the name of morgause’s actor so I assumed that she meant scenes with Gwen’s actor. Also it just figures that he’d be much more graphic and detailed and open about lesbian undertones in a relationship where those undertones should not have existed than the beautiful gay couple right in front of him!
I think there should be room for people to interpret it how they like. If you see two best friends, great. If you see a couple in the making that awkwardly keeps dancing around the subject, also great. Anything in between, go for it! I personally enjoy both perspectives. I've come across some really interesting fanfiction on both sides of that spectrum. 😆
I had no idea there was a merlin fandom. I am 16 now but it was my favourite show EVER when I was younger I was totally obsessed it's one of very few things I can remember vividly from that time. I totally forgot about it though until my friend told me I should watch it I was shocked😭. Rewatching it now and seeing the gay (over)tone to the whole thing makes it SO MUCH BETTER I AM SO HAPPY
It honestly makes me really sad that there was no canon acknowledgement of the romance between Merlin and Arthur. What I wouldn't give to see this show remade now, with justice done to the intense romantic chemistry between the two. If Merlin or Arthur were a woman in the show, we absolutely would have seen something different. Breaks my heart that it never happened, because I think the show (especially the finale) would have been so much more impactful if it were explored or at the very least acknowledged. The "just hold me" was the nail in the coffin. The showrunners absolutely knew what they were doing at that point - even if it wasn't intentional in the beginning - and to me, it really just reads like queerbaiting. I still love the show for what it is, but so many shows just like this really just damaged me emotionally as a queer person. I really didn't realize how bad this sort of thing messed me up until I watched "Our Flag Means Death" recently. I would recommend the absolute hell out of that show to anyone, queer or straight. SPOILERS: I spent the entire show believing nothing was going to come of Stede and Edward, and I genuinely cried happy tears when it did, because we (queer folks) have been so conditioned not to expect any fulfillment or honest representation in protagonists in mainstream media. A lot of other people who watched Our Flag Means Death commented on the same thing. The show is just incredibly healing, and it's made me realize just how many times we've been let down by other shows. Merlin, as much as I love it, was one of them. And I can only hope that OFMD is just the beginning. It's so cruel to lead queer audiences on, to insert so much subtext, to drag out the audience's expectations by compounding on it in order to capitalize on queer people's hopes and desires to be represented, just to gaslight the community and say "maybe that's what /you/ saw", or "ah, people just like to read into something that's not really there". Or to say after the fact that it was always there, when there was obviously no intention of following through. Anyway, that was a whole essay. Sorry.
all thanks to 500+yrs of religious bs, compounded by Victorian lawmakers. even today, the BBC is in the grip of this bs when they want to sell their 'family shows' around the world
Ofmd really was like First 8 episodes: Ooh pirates that seem gay, maybe they'll kiss The 9th: OMG FINALLY I CANT BELIEVE ITS NOT QUEERBAIT The last ep: oh shit, wtf, no, NO, NOOOOO! WTAF
What makes 'The Adventures of Merlin' so good is the comedy, Merlin's dry humor & sarcasm & Arthur growing out of being so arrogant & becoming more humble & wise - mostly thanks to Merlin. Keep doing the bloopers, so fun, informative & reminds us these characters are actors.
This is absolutely brilliant! Angel and Katie's comments during episode are my fav. I wanted to awwww every time arthur and merlin were on screen too)) Even the creator says there's love between them. Also in the interview with bradley and colin why do i feel like colin iz holding back a laugh😄while bradley talks about the strong "friendship" between arthur and merlin. Thank u so much for your work🤗
ofc there is _love_ between the two main characters. for 5 seasons (roughly 10yrs or so) Merlin was Arthur's constant companion both in life and death situations and daily routine stuff. Arthur clearly loves Merlin and Merlin dedicated his whole life to Arthur. the question is: is anyone _in love_ with the other? friends love each other. but is there more to it here?
I saw this come up in my recomendations, and I have NEVER been so thankful to the youtube algorythm. That half of this was Katie McGrath talking to one of the screenwriters / Co-Creators, about how gay the show is, just made my day. 😂
This Guys should bring back a season 6 of Merlin. I personally feel the story line had more to be exploited, and could possibly give a season 6 and even 7
the episode commentaries for this show are outstanding for this kind of stuff. i think they were made during that perfect period of time where no one really paid attention to dvd extras so there wasn't so much pr restriction on the stuff said in them.
U know I think it would be awsome if they continued it again but with older merlin and I think he should find a way to travel back to the past that would be cool if it happened though most likely not this is still my favorite series to watch and I will forever keep re watching it.
Me: this could not get funnier. This line: "Merdred sounds like murder. Yeah I like merdred" Me: oh my fucking god. Me: on the floor dying of laughter.
Katie has always been supporting gay coupling, she also wanted to be a part of what would’ve been an iconic couple of Kara and Lena in supergirl. Give our girl her gay romance!
Proof that Katie should’ve written at least half the show
And bradley he always pointed the loop holes on arthurs charcter
@Luna R i think he talked about how arthur development character was really incomplete and how camelots dungeons are the worst, i dont remember what interview was sorry
omg i got so into it when she started saying that part. It was like i was listening to an audio book and got sucked right into the storyline
@@antoniacofre6281 Bradley loved Arthur's character so much, he always advocated for his development but for some reason he just kept being reset
Yeah for one, morgana wouldn't have had that tragedy of a personality change... I always disliked just HOW evil she became. And so fast. For relatively shit reasons if im renembering correctly
I love that you can tell that the actors were all avoiding giving a straight answer because they didn't want to get in trouble but then at that last commentary julien was like "you know what? fuck it. they're in love" and katie was like "oh good so i can say that now?"
“Avoiding giving a straight answer”
I’ll say
@@cozybones4644 lmaoo okay maybe I should have said gay answer
I thought they just didn’t say that cause Bradley and Colin were uncomfortable with the idea. No proof of that, that’s just how it always seemed to me. Kind of like with “Larry” Louis and Harry from one direction
@@laurenmichael3472 you mean Collin, Bradley seemed all for it. Louie and Harry weren't uncomfortable with Larry until their bosses kept intervening otherwise they always through nods at it and joked about it
Pun intended?
The way Bradley did not hesitate for a SECOND picking Merlin over Gwen for Arthur
I mean, Arthur and Merlin are the main characters :))
He know what's going on
Friendships are more interesting than romantic relationships to be fair.
@@Iamasmartass You are right 😊
You can't tell me that Katie's vision for when Arthur is dying and Merlin tells him he has magic wouldn't have just been PERFECT.
Soooo true
IT WOULD'VE BEEN SO MUCH DAMN BETTER
It would have made the ending so much more satisfying even without resolving the plot of the whole series 😭😭😭
@@jadecampbell3965 EXACTLY!
That is like a confession of Merlin's love to Arthur
“I don’t know if Colin and Bradley feel that way”
*Narrator:* Bradley did indeed, feel that way
everyone who spent 5mins with Colin is probably madly in love with him. poor Bradley had no chance of escape
I often wonder how Bradley endured five years of smouldering looks from Colin as Merlin and managed to remain a straight man by the end of it.
It seems Colin was the one who was uncomfortable with it and in denial, no? Every time Bradley is asked, he gives a full and honest response. Colin seems to react and remain unresponsive.
I WONDER WHY!!!!
I love how Katie is the voice of the fandom, and Bradley encourages her shipping and feeds into it while Collin is just like "come on guys not again😅"
Colin is there just dying of embarassement and i love him for it
They absolutely knew what they're doing, not only the directors but the actors ABSOLUTELY knew what they were doing lmao
"l have magic"
" I know" - she knows what we need. The ending that we deserved!!!
Okokok I came here for the Merthur but I just LOST it at Tom's "PErWaINe????!!!!"
smae🤣
“MeRdREd? Sounds like MURDER!”
I love that the judgement is not the ship in itself but the names XF
ok but imagine if it were Gwercival 💀💀
@@aspiring.creative.person6092 I literally cackled at this.
"There is no homoerotic undertone"
"We thought this chapter as the love story between two men"
Took him a bit of time to admit it 😂😂😂😂
My FAVORITE part was In the context in which he said there is no homoerotic undertone, it was immediately followed by him being called out for not being genuine and being sarcastic lol
Julian was rlly about to say "the last vestiges of his heterosexuality" 💀
Edit: damn I really got popular-
i died
Julian absolutely slipped up there hahahaha
I'm sorry but is no one talking about Tom's reaction to finding out about the other ships? I'm sorry but him saying "Perwaine" made me laugh so damn hard.
Katie McGrath absolutely ships it.
Also I love when the actor that played Percival was like “PeRwAinE?? “ “merdred? Sounds like MURDER”
IM LITERALY CRYING OVER HOW KATIE WAS BASICALY WRITING A MERLIN FANFIC 💀
“There are no homoerotic undertones”
Five seconds later
“There are lesbian undertones”
No one can understand the Merthur shippers better than katie , oh god she is such a sweetheart, and thank you admin for uploading this, just simply loved it.
I can't believe I'm hearing the words "I love you, Merlin" from Bradley's mouth. 🙀😭 I'm screaming and this video is perfect in every possible way. Just...thank you. ❤️
Thank you!! 💕
Saaame
Yesss i had never heard it before
no surprise for me. the way Bradley makes his character look at Merlin all the time. maybe it's not Arthur who has the look of love on his face when watching Merlin, maybe it is Bradley genuinely happy to have the privilege of working with Colin all day long. Colin probably is the source of constant joy to have around, his strange humour (from Bradley's p.o.v.), seeing his talents at work, his dedication etc. is there anyone who didn't instantly fall in love with Colin once you met him?
When did he say that?
There are some actors when their character is shipped with another same-sex character that don't handle it too well. It's understandable to a point as it can become quite uncomfortable when fans make a huge deal about it, but this cast handles it so respectfully, they state clearly that they're friends, but aren't unwilling to listen to fans perspectives on it and to understand their position, i really appreciate it.
A lot better than the supernatural cast, that's for sure.
The Supernatural cast certainly has the two extremes. Jensen is very uncomfortable and tries to avoid it, and Misha feeds the fandom and regularly spouted how in love Cas was
Stop being creeps
@@shwenty1734 'kay
@@shwenty1734 creeps for being comfortable with homosexuality?
I was thinking the same thing, the Merlin cast were more willing to listen to fans opinions and perspectives.
And I agree with @Tiffany Marie, the actors (Jensen and Misha) are quite polar opposites in the way they deal with it.
"That's the last vestige of his heterosexua... I mean, his marriage" - Julian Murphy... If that's not canon then what the F is!?
The question is this: If Merlin or Arthur had been female, would Merthur have been canon? The answer is yes. So that means that regardless of gender, it should be seen as a romance
YES
U clearly don't know what male friendship is
@@hadrianuscaesare4918 again, I didn’t say anything about friendship. I asked if Merlin or Arthur were female, would they have had a romantic relationship? If everything stayed the same, except it would have been hetero. Would it have been canon if it wasn’t gay?
@@hadrianuscaesare4918 Lol its clear That They Didn't End up Together Because its A Bromance BUT If is a Straight romance They would have been together That's what they are saying WHICH IS UNFAIR The Series says All they love each other beyond friendship if it weren't for Gender boundaries Cause You know HOMOPHOBIC People still exist.
The answer would absolutely be yes! Especially if you take into account the insane amount of on-screen chemistry Merlin and Arthur have, and apply that to the scenario of 'if either of them were female' as well.
2:06 “They are, you know, friends…” I swear to God it looks (and sounds) like she almost threw in air quotes there
There are no "homosexual undertones". Because it's in no way an undertone. I love how much of a Merthur stan Katie is.
I love the sound of the cast quietly losing it with laughter when someone says "Brokeback Merlin". It was pretty hilarious
Bradley definitely seems way more comfortable with Merthur than Colin does. Which I understand but Merlin’s endless devotion and dedication to Arthur is what drives 70% of the buzz. It’s just counter intuitive. And probed that they’re great actors. Bradley is more quick to say that Arthur loved Merlin even though Arthur would self combust from the thought of sharing his emotions
Arthur certainly is emotionally stunted. the whole show revolves around Merlin constantly saving Arthur from the threat of the week, often deadly. Bradley certainly is not Arthur and can freely share his views of the relationship. poor Colin can't give in to fan sentiments of _Merthur_ no matter how devoted his character is to his prince/king. even the showrunner was made to backtrack from his DVD commentary three weeks later when the show was already wrapped up, imagine Colin had said anything of the sort during filming
@@embreis2257 wait what do you mean they made the showrunner backtrack? on what? that sounds awful
@@UnBesoDeCristal well, it all happened 10yrs ago. the show was wrapped up and one of the showrunners and Kathy McGrath were commenting the final two-parter for its DvD release. on it, Julian (I believe) was responding to Kathy's banter about _Merthur_ and he admitted they (the writers) viewed it [by now] as two men in love. not in the DvD commentary, but Bradley somewhere said his character's final line was dubbed in post-production. if you look closely, instead of 'Thank you' his lips could have said something akin to 'I love you'. anyway, three weeks later the showrunner had to retract his comment. it still got pressed on DvD though.
Yeah I noticed that Colin seemed a lot more quite when it came to the whole shipping aspect of Merlin and Arthur, and I was surprised because I would’ve thought it to be the other way around.
@@PhysicallyAwake to be fair Collin is a lot more introverted than the rest of the cast.... Which is kinda ironic considering he's an actor... 🤔... But Collin doesn't really do social work unless he has to and irl trys to avoid attention.
I love hoe the interviewer said: "what would you choose the romans with gwen or the bromance with merlin" and that Bradley said: romance with Merlin not even bromance he knew what he was saying
he actually did say bromance if you watch closely
I can hear both in it so I dont really know wich one he said
@@femkebraak661 train you ear better^^
He clearly said, "bromance."
he did say bromance i believe but the subtitles recorded it as romance.
They are both two very captivating actors..like magic they made everyone fall in love with them.. especially Colin..he will always be the once and future MERLIN..
oh my god Katie and Julian’s commentary 😂😂
The fact that this fandom is still active is amazing!
ikr? the sheer will of every single fan fueling the content is beautiful
This show will forever have my heart, it’s the ultimate comfort show❤
Merlin is Immortal, and so is this fandom 😌💗💗💗
God I love Katie she’s such an icon
Someone suuurely has used the soundbite of Bradley saying “I love you Merlin” in a fan made video, editing it so Arthur actually looks like he says it to merlin. Surely!
the bastards (writers/producers) never even gave us a kiss on the forehead. for 5 seasons Merlin was giving his all to save Arthur from who knows what; there would have been countless opportunities for Arthur to show his gratitude in an affectionate way. but no, nothing. _one hug_ in five seasons and Merlin didin't even remember this one, because the _formorrah_ was possessing him.
Down with toxic masculinity! A hug and a kiss in affection, especially whilst dying is completely more than far to show between these two! In old literature noone batted an eye at that stuff!
Katie is awesome!!! She's so refreshing to watch, and her support for merther is absolutely iconic. She is a QUEEEN.
Yeah Katie is just so refreshing to listen to when talking about queer readings of shows (that she's in) because she always supports it, gives the fans the power to read it that way, and doesn't make them (us, lol) feel stupid for it.
Of course, she can't outright say anything big because she's under contract and stuff, but with how much she's allowed to say she always always makes me feel validated/supported. She's on our side, or at least makes us feel that way.
Bradley: I love you Merlin.
Merthur Fandom: SOMEBODY CUT THAT! WE CAN USE IT!
wait i have a idea now 🤭
@@Your_fav_cheese87 DO IT FOR THE FANDOM!
Katie spent her years on that set acting, yes, but she also shadowed Bradley and Colin and then did what they were doing on Supergirl.
I think they're not allowed to state certain things publicly about the characters and also, sadly, they can't participate in the story-writing. But Katie said once that her dream is to become a writer, and hell yeah, she should. About Supergirl, I'm pretty sure the actors/actresses weren't allowed to say a word about Supercorp; I even read Katie and Melissa were asked by the producers to not do anything in public that could be interpreted as gay (no stares, no holding hands, no touching, no whispering in the ear). Maybe we have to wait for another ten years until they confirm the obvious. I would like to know why they said no to supercorp. I still don't get it. So many lgbt++ characters in the CW except for the only one everyone was asking for.
@@imnoandroid4501 didn't Melissa and Katie kiss (non canon).
@@imnoandroid4501 when did Katie say she wanted to be a writer?
she was asked during an interview what career she would pursue if she wasn't an actress, and she answered that, as she likes writing and reading, she would have been a journalist. Later on, when asked if she would direct someday, she said that she would prefer to be a screenwriter. Don't remember which interview it was, but you'll find it for sure
Katie and Alex Vlahos will defend Merthur till their dying breaths and I respect that a lot
Alex is willing to die for it ngl
I'm convinced Katie actually started the entire Merthur Fandom.
this should be re-titled katie shipping merthur for 7 mins (and some others)😂
Katie is everything I ever needed in my life. She's an icon, she's a legend and she IS the moment.
Julian: It's totally hetero
Julian: there are NO metaphors here
Julian:....
Julian: also they love each other and cradle each other and it's a love story and yea
I think if Merlin were played by a woman then their real canon carnal relationship would have started mid first season. So yeah they definitely gay
the way colin dismisses merthur so quickly cus its so awkward for him is hilarious hes like “yeah laugh at me and my MATE being caring FRIENDS. KATIE.”
Colin was probably aware of the view among BBC execs and knew he was going to work with them many times in the future. however, compared to Bradley, Colin very courageously took on challenging roles in films like _The Happy Prince_ or _Benjamin_ and kissed quite a few guys on camera.
@@embreis2257 yeah but these were all canon roles so he didnt mind talking about them but merthur was probably just different to him since he and bradley are just friends and werent told to do anything romantic
@@breadmayhem that's one way of looking at his reaction. the other is: Colin got this title role of a _Matter of Britain_ character for a BBC family show at the age of 22, just after finishing drama school and 2 theatre gigs and this Christmas special for BBC Northern Ireland or his guest role on _Dr Who_ . he probably didn't want to stir up any trouble. and adding more gratuitous Merthur stuff into his acting or even talking about 'Merthur' in public like confirming anything intentional is bound to cause a stir. maybe Colin was warned by colleagues to tread carefully, maybe he did it on his own (him being a Catholic Irish boy with a thick accent who knows he has to work with the BBC quite a lot in future).
anyway, he was dead right. Julian, one of the showrunners, who pitched the show to the BBC and wrote many scripts for Merlin, did the DVD audio commentary for the final two-parter together with Katie. his admission during those final scenes about 'Merthur' caused him trouble even right after wrapping up the show and he had to retract his remarks a few weeks later. a showrunner! imagine what could have happened if Colin had dared anything like it.
the BBC sold the show to around 180 countries, most of them frightfully bigoted. but even many parents in the UK would have written angry letters to the BBC if Merlin and Arthur had shown anything 'romantic' between them.
1:54 I was curious who said this part. Allegedly, according to an online post, it went like this:
Question asker: you could be gay icons then?
Johnny Capps: they're already gay icons!
Ah okay, thanks! Yeah I had a hard time trying to figure out who was who in that interview
“The cast”coughs” Katie..” I’m screaming 😭KATIE fan number one of gay romance on any show
7:02 this is genuinely the most iconic thing I've ever seen
Morgana both denies the canon ship but then states "Give the fans what they want!" And then full on ships them herself. Love it.
He should have made them kiss, EVERYONE WOULD HAVE LOVED IT. YOU KNOW WHAT, they should film it again with an ending kiss
in the final ep when Merlin realises Arthur is dead, their foreheads briefly touch. he could have kissed Arthur's forehead instead.
Omg the subtitles 💕 thank you so much!!! The production value is *chef's kiss*
My pleasure! 😇
This is so good! Yesterday marks the year I finished this amazing show. I’m never going to stop loving their relationship ❤️
Thanks! Aww Happy belated one year 💜
@@merlinsimpclub Thank you!
I DID NOT KNOW ANY OF THESE INTERVIEWS/COMMENTARIES EXISTED OH MY GOSH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING THESE TOGETHER AND SHARING THEM!! BLESS!!
🚨Disclaimer! Please read below ⬇️
In the video Julian is talking to Katie about Morgana & Morgause’s “lesbian undertones”. For RELATED half sisters to be written in that way is VERY WRONG and comes off as f3tishizing. I didn’t realize to later putting the clip in that it could be potentially took the wrong way (as it to be funny or a good thing) or people would just overlook it. Julian has said even more things about it in that commentary that I didn’t put in the video that are more graphic.
In many old arthuruan tales morgana and morgause are often arthurs galf sisters and mordred is the son he conceives with one of his half sisters. Those are more disturbing than lesbisn undertones of 2 half sisters whom we are not even sure are half sisters.
I didn’t know the name of morgause’s actor so I assumed that she meant scenes with Gwen’s actor. Also it just figures that he’d be much more graphic and detailed and open about lesbian undertones in a relationship where those undertones should not have existed than the beautiful gay couple right in front of him!
... Considering some of the original Arthurian tales, I think that's the least disturbing of the source material. Chill out, it's not real. 😂
The fact that the creators confirmed that the show is a love story between them...
I think there should be room for people to interpret it how they like.
If you see two best friends, great. If you see a couple in the making that awkwardly keeps dancing around the subject, also great. Anything in between, go for it!
I personally enjoy both perspectives. I've come across some really interesting fanfiction on both sides of that spectrum. 😆
This is my first time hearing about Katie McGrath and I already think she's awesome.
You even dug up Tom Holland's tweet from 2012. Great job! I love that this fandom still lives
the way katie goes "i love you :D" is so adorable
"The last vestige of his hetro-"
LMAOO!!!!
Percival’s actor finding out about ship names is the funniest fucking thing I can’t even
Oh my God... I'm not even a Merthur shipper, but don't think I need to be one to say WHY WEREN'T WE GIVEN THE ENDING KATIE CAME UP WITH!!! 😭😭😭
2:51
PFFT I DIDN'T EXPECT COLIN TO POP OUT OF NOWHERE LIKE THAT XDD
s a m e 👁👄👁
I love the conversation between Katie and Julian. That was amazing.
Im so happy this fandom is still alive I was just missing it and i found this and it made me very happy
also yeah merthur is canon lmao
It will never die :D it’s magical
"Which bond is stronger? Athur's romance with gwen or Athur's bromance with Merlin"
Bradley :- "Athur's ROMANCE with Merlin"
Love how we are still talking about this in 2022
Katie is so fucking sweet, we love her ❤
I had no idea there was a merlin fandom. I am 16 now but it was my favourite show EVER when I was younger I was totally obsessed it's one of very few things I can remember vividly from that time. I totally forgot about it though until my friend told me I should watch it I was shocked😭. Rewatching it now and seeing the gay (over)tone to the whole thing makes it SO MUCH BETTER I AM SO HAPPY
I used to watch it with my dad which makes it even better bc he is definitely a bit spicy LMAO
so your dad would have been cool with the whole _Merthur_ notion?
Audience “merthur?” Cast: “wait I thought it was canon”
It honestly makes me really sad that there was no canon acknowledgement of the romance between Merlin and Arthur. What I wouldn't give to see this show remade now, with justice done to the intense romantic chemistry between the two. If Merlin or Arthur were a woman in the show, we absolutely would have seen something different. Breaks my heart that it never happened, because I think the show (especially the finale) would have been so much more impactful if it were explored or at the very least acknowledged. The "just hold me" was the nail in the coffin. The showrunners absolutely knew what they were doing at that point - even if it wasn't intentional in the beginning - and to me, it really just reads like queerbaiting. I still love the show for what it is, but so many shows just like this really just damaged me emotionally as a queer person. I really didn't realize how bad this sort of thing messed me up until I watched "Our Flag Means Death" recently. I would recommend the absolute hell out of that show to anyone, queer or straight.
SPOILERS: I spent the entire show believing nothing was going to come of Stede and Edward, and I genuinely cried happy tears when it did, because we (queer folks) have been so conditioned not to expect any fulfillment or honest representation in protagonists in mainstream media. A lot of other people who watched Our Flag Means Death commented on the same thing. The show is just incredibly healing, and it's made me realize just how many times we've been let down by other shows. Merlin, as much as I love it, was one of them. And I can only hope that OFMD is just the beginning. It's so cruel to lead queer audiences on, to insert so much subtext, to drag out the audience's expectations by compounding on it in order to capitalize on queer people's hopes and desires to be represented, just to gaslight the community and say "maybe that's what /you/ saw", or "ah, people just like to read into something that's not really there". Or to say after the fact that it was always there, when there was obviously no intention of following through.
Anyway, that was a whole essay. Sorry.
all thanks to 500+yrs of religious bs, compounded by Victorian lawmakers. even today, the BBC is in the grip of this bs when they want to sell their 'family shows' around the world
Ofmd really was like
First 8 episodes: Ooh pirates that seem gay, maybe they'll kiss
The 9th: OMG FINALLY I CANT BELIEVE ITS NOT QUEERBAIT
The last ep: oh shit, wtf, no, NO, NOOOOO! WTAF
Kate is officially the president of the Merthur fanclub. I'm obviously vice president 🤭
the merlin fandom will NEVER DIE. WE WILL ONLY GET STRONGER !!
What makes 'The Adventures of Merlin' so good is the comedy, Merlin's dry humor & sarcasm & Arthur growing out of being so arrogant & becoming more humble & wise - mostly thanks to Merlin. Keep doing the bloopers, so fun, informative & reminds us these characters are actors.
This is absolutely brilliant! Angel and Katie's comments during episode are my fav. I wanted to awwww every time arthur and merlin were on screen too))
Even the creator says there's love between them.
Also in the interview with bradley and colin why do i feel like colin iz holding back a laugh😄while bradley talks about the strong "friendship" between arthur and merlin.
Thank u so much for your work🤗
ofc there is _love_ between the two main characters. for 5 seasons (roughly 10yrs or so) Merlin was Arthur's constant companion both in life and death situations and daily routine stuff. Arthur clearly loves Merlin and Merlin dedicated his whole life to Arthur. the question is: is anyone _in love_ with the other? friends love each other. but is there more to it here?
I am a simple girl.
I saw Katie.
I clicked.
We think the same way
Katie out here writing the fanfiction for us 👑 Queen!
Merlin fandom still going strong I see, well done everyone!!
“That’s not what I meant and you know it” HELP HAHAHAHAHAHH I LOVE HIM
I didnt expect tom holland in the end 💀
Katie must be protected at all costs
3:36 THE SARCASM dripping down I’m crying
I saw this come up in my recomendations, and I have NEVER been so thankful to the youtube algorythm. That half of this was Katie McGrath talking to one of the screenwriters / Co-Creators, about how gay the show is, just made my day. 😂
"You could be gay icons then"
"They're already gay icons!" 🤣
Dude I almost spit out my coffee half way through the video XD
that’s cool that toms favorite show is merlin
This is probably my favorite video on youtube, ever. 😭 You're doing Gods work here 🙏
Okay I loved Morgana while watching the show and now I also love Katie McGrath just for the person she is. Wonderful 😂😂😂
Katie being an absolute fujoshi fan girl through the whole thing is ✨✨✨✨
This Guys should bring back a season 6 of Merlin. I personally feel the story line had more to be exploited, and could possibly give a season 6 and even 7
the episode commentaries for this show are outstanding for this kind of stuff. i think they were made during that perfect period of time where no one really paid attention to dvd extras so there wasn't so much pr restriction on the stuff said in them.
Woah I hadn't heard most of that commentary in other edits! I'm really surprised nobody has used Bradley saying ily merlin lol
Bradley seems so sweet around fans. Bless him 😂😂😂
this is perfect!!! I just come here every year to rewatch
Tom is everything in this
and don't even get me started on Alex my Merthur shipper #1
OMG I CANT BELIEVE THIS TOM HOLLAND LOVES MERLIN TOO? WE NEED TO HAVE A GEEKY CRYING SESSION TOGETHER ABOUT SERIES 5 EPISODE 13
History books: aNd tHeY wErE RoOmAteS 💀✋
Merlin:
katie's got no filter at this point 😭
I'm rewatching the series and seeing relatively recent comments here is so heartwarming. I love this fandom
U know I think it would be awsome if they continued it again but with older merlin and I think he should find a way to travel back to the past that would be cool if it happened though most likely not this is still my favorite series to watch and I will forever keep re watching it.
Katie McGrath take my soul
Me: this could not get funnier.
This line: "Merdred sounds like murder. Yeah I like merdred"
Me: oh my fucking god.
Me: on the floor dying of laughter.
I can’t help but smile❤️❤️❤️even now it’s 2022.🥺
They are a perfect couple. Hands down. Katie should have wrote the show
Katie has always been supporting gay coupling, she also wanted to be a part of what would’ve been an iconic couple of Kara and Lena in supergirl. Give our girl her gay romance!