New Truck Prices Are Crazy High, So Here Are 3 Affordable Pickups, For 3 Different Budgets!
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- Опубликовано: 15 июн 2024
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0:25 Under $10K
8:06 Under $25K
16:11 Under $40K
22:52 Verdict
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Its like a breath of fresh air that you guys are reviewing older more affordable trucks that is a little more realistic for most of us. Thank you TFL.
Amen…
About time I’ve only been commenting for years saying get your head out the sand and sucking the big company’s feet and get back to us the people
@@FishinFreak21 I hope they make more similar videos!
seriously. it's funny to see them say shit like "only starting at $30,000"
It would have been nice to include electric options for trucks too. Not all of us want a gas guzzling truck 😒
I laughed when Andre made a comment how low the Titan's hood was. I distinctly remember our neighbor getting one when they were first launched and thinking what a monster it was. Just shows how big new trucks have gotten.
I feel like the dash board being so far from the windshield or being deep was funny feeling
I have issues parking my Frontier, can't imagine parking a current full size.
I currently own a ZR2 Colorado (2018) (73,000 miles) and it has been rock solid. Love the truck! It handles like a sports car, a beast off-road, and plenty of power. My sister has a 2007 Nissan Titan SV 4x4 with 156,000 miles. Amazing truck! We use it for hay, gravel, towing horses… Super good at all of these things. (We have overloaded it with hay A LOT and it’s just perfect). Rock solid trucks and are gems in the truck world.
eu tenho uma colorado (piorado) kkkkk a famosa gambiarra da chevrolet , s10 !.
I have a 310,000 2005 Colorado, solid engine, trans just gave up on 2nd and 4th, and the window doesn't like being moved, but it's still a great truck I drive almost 100 miles a day.
@@CesarMartinez-wi7wc that’s awesome! I guess it’s like a rock!
I currently have a 2015 fully loaded pro4x titan thant I bought new with now 245k. No mechanical or drivetrain issues. Fairly redid the full front end suspension once (upper, lower ball joint, outter tie rods), struts all around once, 2 front wheel bearings, AC condenser, radiator (small fitting leak), canister evap valve. Other than that, regular maintenance. It's all about that maintenance... cheers!
I absolutely agree with the titan. I would put aftermarket cats on it and manifolds. Do the rear diff breather mod. You got a solid truck
The direct injection 5.6 they put in has horrible carbon build up issues. I really like the Titan but passed on the DI newer models because of this. Catch cans aren’t solving it either. I think the cat issues was fixed years ago too. They had that problem for 10-13 years
Nissan makes fantastic durable and reliable pickups 🛻
Finally, a video thats applicable to the majority of your audience. Best one in a long time. Great job!
The 2015 to 2017 F150 with the 5.0 should be in this list as being one of the best reliable trucks on the used market!
Haha, but why?? Port injection was only added to the Coyote in 2018!! Those you speak of are all carboned up by now. 🤣
@jacquesc3166 the 5.0 only ran port injection untill 2018 and the it was both port and direct injection
They had issues with VCTs breaking but yes they are more reliable than the 2018+ model 5.0s.
The biggest issue I had when I had an F-150 with a 5.0 was the windshield washer fluid line would clog causing washer fluid to not spay out of the nozzle onto the windshield. Apparently that was a common issue on the 5.0 trucks. Never had any other major issues besides that one with the engine.
So nice to see them showing the affordable deals that are out there for good used trucks as the prices for new ones are insane. As long as get a Carfax, and have a Dealership do a prepurchase inspection before a purchase, and have a body shop do a walkaround you'll be ok.
A friend of mine has an 05 Titan with almost 200k. Solid trucks
I got a 2006 nissan titan 252 K miles runs strong
One of the best videos you could make for informational purposes. Good job, TFL team!
Thank you for the kind words.
I have a used vehicle that I paid cash for. I will avoid getting suckered in and get into a ridiculous amount of debt for something that devalues as soon as you drive it out the lot.
Remembering that you shouldn't buy a truck with fuel economy in mind, the Nissan Titan would get my vote,.... just maybe not that one with the jazzed up exhaust and air intake.
dumb comment. The only reason not to consider fuel economy is if you are purchasing a leisure vehicle.
@@davidporter7051agreed. How much it cost to drive IS absolutely important.
@@davidporter7051dumber comment. Depends on overall price and durability of the vehicle. Titan is a cheap truck that will last forever. I bought one with cash, I’d take the gas cost over a high payment on a more expensive truck.
@@Drew-fu8fc you must breathe through your mouth and don't understand the definition of consideration. I'll help you consideration=careful thought, typically over a period of time. I hazard the guess judging by your comment you meet the definition of an Emotional and you don't realize this. If one isn't considering the operation costs of purchase then one isn't making a decision on necessity it's a luxury purchase.
Most def, that vk56 never dies
I really liked my 10 Titan I got rid of it after 350,000kms. 10 years owned. Motor and transmission solid 4x4 was solid too only thing I did was coils, new sparks, tranny flush. In the last 5 years ownership rear axle seals went, exhaust manifolds cracked, power steering pump leaked, upper / lower ball joints replaced, wheel bearings all, new brakes and rotors new fuel pump, and the airbag light was flashing lol…. End of ownership came when the truck would just shut off driving down the highway 😬 sold it as is
I absolutely LOVE this review!!
If I had the cash available and a connection with your auto auction out there, I would buy that ZR2 and that Rebel right now!!
I had a 2018 ZR2 Diesel. The truck was quiet and smooth and always impressed my off-road but the fuel mileage always confused me. Bone stock it averaged 21-22 mpg. I checked mileage religiously and hit 25 mpg only once when I had a tail wind! Where it impressed me was I eventually put a 5" lift and 35 inch tires and it could still squeak out 20 mpg. So while stock it wasn't much better than the gas V6, in typical diesel form it does it's best when working harder. A gasser with 35's would get about only get about 14 mpg.
Here in Brazil we have the S10, basically the same as a Colorado, mine, a 2020, has an average of 26,5 MPH over total of 85,000 miles. On long distances it gets easily 30 MPG. My 2016 that I had before had more or less the same average with some 100,000 on the clock.
@@hanstubben a minha esta stg2 com pneus bf 285 , faz 10,5 a 11 kml , acho um motor bem eficiente , mas com certeza a chevrolet poderia melhorar um pouco mais pra trazer na proxima geraçao !
I have a 2018 zr2 and i love it. It is funny hearing them talk about it like its so old though, it still feels new to me.
Unless you KNOW that it has been done, if a Colorado with the 2.8L Duramax has more than 100K miles on it, you should immediately replace the timing belt. The 2.8L Duramax is a version of the VM Motori 2.8L CRD sold in the U.S. in the 2005-2006 Jeep Liberty. Both engines are "interference" engines--if the timing belt breaks, there can be severe engine damage. The bad news: timing belt replacement is about $1,500 if done by an auto shop. Like all MY2007+ diesels, the 2.8L Duramax is prone to emission system problems, especially if the vehicle is driven a lot in stop and go traffic or is idled a lot.
Toyota's 4.7 does not have emissions but it also relies on a timing belt that should be changed. Do not go by a Toyota by reliability alone- if a timing belt is not changed, then when it breaks , it will grenade the 4.7. Engine replacement is very expensive.
I’ve had 4 first gen titans. My dad bought one brand new in 03 and has 350k on it and barely maintains it. He has a 2017 f150 also and prefers the Titan. Still daily drives it. I don’t daily my Titan anymore but they are very under appreciated especially for the price compared to new trucks
No such thing as a Colorado ZR2 diesel for 25k... I've been watching these on the used market for a year!
@keaton2657 you probably live in a horrible state...I live in Oklahoma and I can find them all day for 20-27k
Good job TFL. Either buy used and fix it if needed or keep what you have and fix it as needed. The mfrs expect you to pay for that 40% pay raise for the UAW workers and the losses on the EVs they cannot sell. The only way to get prices down and the greedy slimy dealers to stop all the markups is to not buy from them.
You know who took the brunt of the last recession? The workers. The CEOS didn't take any pay cut, but the workers did. You are the kind of person who when the powers tell you to shut up and take your beating you say "yes master".
@@danielrn133 F$uck unions.
@@danielrn133lol, uaw pay cut? You're the kinda guy that shows up to work drunk and high and when they try and fire you hides behind the union and gets to keep your job. Then you hurt a coworker nearly killing him, while intoxicated, still keep your job, because, well, union! Union then claims company caused unsafe work conditions. Then you get a promotion because nobody wants to work with you, but they cant fire you so they move you. I can see why you like the union so much!
Own a 2011 pro4x with 250k. Love the truck. Have just done regular maintenance/wear items and the rear axle breather mod when the axle seal went. Replaced the clock spring when I got the flashing airbag light. Easy fix though. Most gen 1s have after market exhausts with the flange over the axle collecting salt and rusting the exhaust. Great trucks for the price
I had a 2004 Titan LE 4X4 and owned it for 12 years. It had it's share of First Year problems like leaking rear axle seals, underperforming brakes, etc but the 5.6L was superb. I sold it in 2016 and bought a 2017 RAM 1500 Limited 4X4 )5.7 Hemi) which I still have. Has 82K miles and has had no mechanical issues whatsoever. Except it now has the infamous exhaust manifold leak (notorious for the hemi). Other than that, it's been a superb truck. Both are good used vehicle choices.
My 2013 Nissan Titan has been a great truck.
Beware….some of these prices are SCAMS used to hook you in to get u to the dealership! Read the FINE PRINT. The dealers get u in and then ALWAYS add on at least $5,000 worth of crap (window tint, windshield protection, paint protection, ceramic coating, theft protection) that they say CANNOT be deducted. Now that great deal is $5,000-$8,000 higher!! This happened to me in at Central Houston Nissan.
Love my 2019 ZR2 Dirtymax. Be sure to get them with a lifetime warranty. However, if they’re working right; they’re working well.
Love my 2004 Titan and I bought it new and it runs like a dream still.
Money is not meant to control people, rather it is meant to be put to work producing more money for you. You cannot build wealth without putting money in its rightful place.
Could you do something like this for folks who are looking for the 2500/250 type trucks for harder work/towing? Struggling to wade through all the issues over the years.
The TFL competence team was out and about again. Thank you for the informative video. My dream truck would definitely be the ZR2. But if I were to get it in Germany at all, I would have to pay the equivalent of between 45k and 50k dollars. I'm really jealous of your prices. Best regards.
I have a 19 canyon v6 and still like it as much as I did when I drove it off the dealers lot new. They really do feel like a scaled down Silverado/ Sierra.
I just sold my 05 titan, it lasted two cross country trips (wa to sc in 2010 and sc to wa in 2017) and it had around 350k and it still had plenty of life to go. By far my favorite truck ive ever had and i honestly miss it and im thinking of selling my 2019 tacoma to get another 1st gen titan. Only thing that stops me is the taco has a standard transmission plus i got a smoking deal on it with 35k miles on it for $24k.
In many cases the hemi tick can be prevented or fixed with a melling high volume oil pump & using synthetic oil & frequent oil changes
I was very fortunate to find my new-to-me truck for the price I did. It's a 2008 Silverado 1500, and it is the quintessential grandpa truck. Totally rust free with a really nice topper and only 78k miles on it when I bought it. $16k might sound like a lot for something that old, but it is in pristine condition.
Picked up a 2010 Titan for 10K in 2020 with 68000 miles. Runs like a dream, have only had to swap out a power steering hose that cost $25.
I just love watching these vids. I wish we could get a dash shot of these trucks tho. I'd like to see how big the screens are, if they have them, and such. Great stuff tho.
I was looking at used trucks, my previous was a 2009 f250 super duty . Came across Ross a new 2023 titan xd pro4x with almost every option they took 18% off sticker, and 0% financing. They agreed to add the Miami dual exhaust ( 1800 bucks) if I paid labor. I e never owned a new truck, but compared to used prices and 6-8% interest, it became the best buy for me.
The 2011 5.3L v8 Colorado I used to have was one of my favorite vehicles.
Awesome video TFL!! Nathan, did you really just say that intakes and exhausts are not needed? If you do it right, you can actually raise your mpg by 4 to 6 mpg!!
Love the comparison! Wish you could show them in action in a comparison video, on and offroad. I bet that Titan would keep up with the other 2....except in gas mileage lol!
The Banks intake and exhaust are the first things to add to a Titan if you wanted to increase performance and they are top shelf, but I guess Nathan doesn’t like performance adders. Truck needs some maintenance for sure but good bones for someone who wants to take on a project.
Just because a truck has an aftermarket intake/exhaust doesn't mean it has been abused. After buying my 2016 Canyon in Ontario, I had to downshift to second gear to climb the steep mountain roads. Even in Alberta, I had to downshift to 4th gear to climb a steep hill on my drive to work. After replacing the stock muffler with a Cherrybomb Vortex, I only had to downshift to 5th gear to climb the same hill, and my fuel economy improved by about 2 MPG. I am hoping that a K&N intake will allow my truck to climb hills in 6th gear. Performance upgrades are necessary if you want your truck to operate at peak efficiency, and it gives you better fuel economy.
My dad had a 2005 4×4 titan . That truck was amazing. With a magna flow exhaust. With an intake. It pulled hard . And sounded amazing. What a great truck that was
Such a great Nissan generation of truck. They had a few issues, notably the radiator mixing with trans fluid. Rear axle breather clogging. Catalytic converters. Better truck than anything the Americans are putting out
Thanks for sharing
You guys should take a basic obdII scanner to these videos and pull codes just to see what the buy cost plus repair cost could be calculated.
No not a basic scanner. You definitely need a higher end one that can scan all the computers, transmission, ABS, body control, hvac, etc. Not just engine codes
@@Argedis I agree about scanning all systems. By basic I meant like not a specific manufacturer or “dealer grade” scanner. Most shops use the autel or similar scanners from Amazon which seem to be stout.
I would choose the Ram Rebel for sure here. Best value for money vehicle, excellent off road and excellent comfort + capability. Not to mention it has a proven V8 that is very reliable.
Who drives a 50 plus thousand dollar truck off road? If you’re talking a dirt road once in a while or you have a dirt driveway, l get it!
@@melvinhunt6976tons of people do including me lol.
@@melvinhunt6976 It has off road capabilities, just like the Silverado Z71 has. But it is on another level compared to the Z71 Silverado.
@melvinhunt6976 A LOT of people. When is the last time you were on a trail man?
@@sawyermartin4434 it has been a while but l rode a Dirt bike ! I couldn’t even think of taking my truck in the woods !! Dirt bikes are way cheaper and l have been with someone in a truck! Bike’s were a lot more Fun!
Would have been nice to see what these actually sold for at the auction just out of curiosity.
I go with Andrea pick with The RAM Rebel. Different tires and you have the perfect truck for under $40,000
I'm interested in the reasoning behind the suggestion of diesel powertrain when going "off grid" or overlanding. Why do you say they're better for that application? Just the extra torque? Or...
Great video guys thanks!!
Thanks for watching!
I bought an 05 Suburban Z71 4x4 for just $2300 running and driving. I also bought an 07 Yukon 4x4 for $2500 running and driving. Excellent deals on reliable classic GM vehicles that still get decent fuel economy for their size and are very capable. Suburban will be my overland vehicle and Yukon will mainly be a pavement princess Track Hawk fighter. LS power baby!!!
I am a fan of the Titans. It is a solid truck and I never understood the hate for it.
That generation of Titans suffered from rear axle issues and leaks. The cats would fail, clog, and take out the engine along with it. But I still like them…
just as an option for $25k - Ridgeline. It has roomier cabin, definitely worse mpg than diesel, but in overall - good purchase for the money (and you could find better year and/or better equipped for the same money as ZR2 Colorado)
I had a 05 Titan 267k miles. Truck was great. Ended up selling it and buying a 2018 Raptor but I still miss that old truck
267k is solid! And 2018 Raptor gang let’s go! Haha
I'd do a ton of research on that 3.5 EcoBoost and 10 speed. So many issues.
@@fireant1272That’s boomer talk afraid of technology. If you don’t service any vehicle on a regular basis, then you can have problems.
The $25k price point is a no-brainer: 2017 F150 5.0 4WD. I see both quad cab FX4 models and single cab shortbed models for that price right now. That’s the first gen of the aluminum/lightweight body, it comes with CarPlay, and it has the excellent 6R80 automatic transmission so you don’t have to deal with 10-speed gear hunting. That trans, the 4wd system, and the 5.0 are rock solid reliable, and the alumitrucks are much less susceptible to rust than anything GM and Dodge has ever made.
In November I got a 2022 Nissan Frontier SV (fully loaded) with 13k miles for $32k. Given the current market, I was happy with what I got.
I would use all 3. 1- Colorado 2- Nissan and sorry ram but you would be 3rd on the list
Thank you for thinking of us common folks on a budget 😊
It's weird the ZR2 was there. It seemed really nice...
Frankly, each one of these trucks are good to have, it just depends on you will be using them for, the titan is a good truck for you high schoolers or college kids, the rebel is a good all around truck and in great condition for being 4 years old, and the zr2 is perfect for going off-road and a daily driver for around town, as for me, because of the work that i do, i would choose the rebel, i haul parts to paint and body shops along with a few mechanics in the west texas area and sometimes i pull a trailer with average weight of 6-8k pounds once or twice a week with my 2019 ram 2wd quad cab 1500
Used to have a titan pro4x i bought for 3k and i beat the piss out of it and she took it. Not a truck on the planet that could beat it for the pricw
I just picked up an '06 F-250 regular cab long bed 4x4 with the hated 5.4 3V for $5200. Only has 124k on it and very little rust (surprising for being in the rust belt). There's zero valvetrain noise. Already had new tires, plugs and coils, brakes, and cat back exhaust. It needed exhaust manifolds (broken studs), a fuel tank (had a leak), shifter repair (shifter sloppy), and I replaced ALL of the fluids. The old fluids looked great though, I just wanted to have a baseline for my ownership records. I'm having the driver's seat refoamed and reupholstered and just picked up a tonneau cover. All in, I'm into it for under $9k, including tagging and titling. Even if the 5.4 takes a dump it's cheaper to replace the engine than to buy a new truck.
Good for you. From working in a shop the 5.4 3v can go the distance if you use a high grade synthetic oil along with a WiX oil filter. and change it very 3-5k miles. Checking it in between and topping off.
I have seen them with over 300k when that was done
When or if you do the spark plugs get the special tool for removing them. Makes the job easier.
👏👏 GREAT job guys .... Happy Friday ✌️
Happy friday to you as well.
I'm running currently a 2008.5 Titan SE Crew Cab with the extended bed, 134k miles at the time I'm typing this. Its been a solid workhorse. I was looking forward to eventually upgrading maybe to the 2nd gen body style of Titan but since Nissan declared after 2024 the Titan won't exist....I'm starting to look at Toyota for my next stop. I'm curious to see how long this Titan will keep going.
Thank you for the feedback.
My first truck is a 2005 Nissan Titan and I am loving it!
Definitely the Titan..
Have a 2007 with 185K miles..
Runs like a champ..super strong.
All original..
Keep it up. Good stuff I want to hear!!!!!
I came Very close to the buying a 2019 ZR2 Diesel. But it couldn't tow my Trailer. I went with a 2019 Silverado Trailboss , for daily life the larger truck is better. But on tight trails the ZR2 would have been better.
Thank you for doing this video. I’ve been looking at the used market, and with the exception of Toyota, you can find better deals going used instead of new.
If you don’t drive a lot get a nissan frontier, their mpg can get worse over time mines engine just exploded, but an 03 lasted me 4 years of straight service, it was in the shop a couple times when it got older but it was decently reliable
That Ram has been wrecked because the passenger fender is about 2 inches too far and the bumper and grill aren't getting along apparently. 3.5k and the Titan will be sold unless the bidding kicks off.
1995 f250 single cab normal bed solid axle front swap with coil springs 2 inch lift 5 speed manual with isuzu 4bd1t lockers 3:55 gears frame off resto all military green paint roll cage and roll bar reinforced crash bars in doors ac and heat running 33 inch tires on stock steel rims cost 11k mpg 26 city 33 highway
I,d pick the ram or chevy depending on what i need it for
Nissan Titan and frontiers are solid trucks.
Love my 09 titan!
I had the same Colorado Diesel, and it was delightful, but the transmission started to slip at 40k. I took it to the dealer, and they said that the truck was fine because no error code was found. Changed to a 4runner.
Same happened to me at 60k. Thankfully I have a lifetime warranty. I had a completely different dealer experience than yours though. You have to make them drive it. There is a part that heats up by the trans, builds pressure, then releases. So if your issue is like mine, it didn’t do it constantly but when it did, you really noticed. This part is made of the wrong material and to my knowledge, they haven’t changed the material of said part.
Yep that's how they get away with it by saying "that's normal".
Also GM is notorious to have extremely high 'tolerances' before it throws a code. (so they don't have to warranty) Like 25%+ slip for example.
You made the correct choice.
yep@@Argedis
@@LucasLeCompteMusic yep
You guys give me hope!!!👍🏁🙂there all pretty Cool truck's!!
If you're budget can afford more than $2,000 for a vehicle then your off in a class all your own.
It's frustrating when people act like everyone under a 10k truck budget are all in the same category
the 2021 F150 with the 2.7 is falling below $40k now, and even in Lariat trim, is low $40k-ish. Supposed to be a very reliable engine; not gonna have the tow/payload capabilities of larger engines, but still starting to look like a decent buy!
They do have transmission issues.
I've been reading allot on forums that the Chevy Colorado diesels have some major oil burning problems with just a few thousand miles on the motors.
One day Andre will have to admit hes never even SEEN a Ram with "Hemi tick" 😂
Most of them have a tick not because of the lifters but because of the exhaust manifolds breaking off. However, usually when the "real" hemi tick happens with the lifters, it usually is catastrophic to the engine.
Airbag light on the titan could be a clock spring
Have a lifted 2019 ram rebel with 58000km equivalent to 36k miles. Selling it for $39k usd or $52k cad at the auction
I love these segments.
My dads 2005 titan has 330,000 miles
I don't think seeing Banks parts on a truck would turn me off considering they cost more than everyone else on the market. The other parts of the Titan would make me give it more thought.
I'm not a Chevy person at all but I'd take that Chevy truck home today.
Wish they were more manual truck options
Can confirm. I had a salvage titled first gen Nissan Titan. It was a tank.
Old trucks have much better visibility. I went from a 2010 gmc Sierra to a 2022 tundra. It is really hard to tell where the hood ends. The front windshield is tiny and the rear window, too. Imma probably trade it in.
The visibility of my 2013 LT 1500 is not great. Very difficult to see.
My friend who drives an old truck, it's a 1987 said that the dashboard on my new Lightning is huge compared to his and that it makes it harder to drive. I rely on the blindspot marker indicators on my side mirror probably too much because of the blind spots in my truck and its a 2023 😂
I have a Chevy Silverado 1500 z71 3640000 miles on it 2010 been a good truck original alternator starter engine been Bullitt proof 5.3 liter been ran hard I keep the oil changed ounce a month
I had the Nissan Titan - buyer beware. Rear diff is known for blowing up every 60k miles. E-locker gets torn up and usually results in a whole new rear end...not just gears: $4k. Transmission is also prone to overheating on hills - even when not towing.
My dad picked up his brand 🆕 2007 Nissan Titan, roll up Windows manual🚪🔒 but it had the V8 & that's what he wanted for $17,000!!
The v8 in the titan is a rock🤘
Don’t touch this, don’t touch that.Ooooo icky . What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Truck guys don’t care about a little dirt, Nathan.
Great video, fellas!
Thank you for watching.
I agree with Andre on this one.
I feel like its such a mistake to get rid of V8's. Harder working turbo 4's and 6's arent going to last nearly as long so the cost to own these trucks with turbo powered smaller engines is going to go up. Replacing turbos, etc. is expensive. Back in the day the saying was "There's no replacement for displacement". I hate the direction things are going. I'll keep my GMC Sierra SLT with the 6.0 liter Vortec Max engine. So, for new trucks anyway, we're paying more for something that won't last as long. Thoughts?
New trucks are pricing themselves out of existence. Manufacturers need to step back and focus on affordability, even if it means a total rethink.
I got a f150 last month and I am happy but my perfect pickup would be the Chevy Colorado. Have loved them since they came out
Digging that ZR2
Nissan trucks in this region have all been worked to the bone. 300k miles on them, often times used as a gardeners or landscapers truck and are pretty beat up inside and out.