Thankfully, as far as I've experienced, only one blue shell can be on the course or in your inventory at a time. But man, would blue shell frenzy be fun.
Oh no... could you imagine if they came out with a visor that could turn your phone into an AR game while you drive... "I swear, officer, I only swerved into that cyclist because there was a green shell coming right at me."
Who says they expected it to stay hidden? Just because you tell people "Don't do this thing" doesn't mean you believe it will work. But by making that part of the conditions, they have the right to do video takedowns on people who break the NDA.
They're not stupid. They know the best way to get the Internet to do something is to tell them to not do it. They wanted leaks, and videos like these to pop up to get people talking about it.
The microtransactions are NOT as heavy as people are saying. This is Nintendo, not EA. I have most of the characters and karts and you cant buy anything on a beta
@@rho-starmkl4483 Yup... I mean I like nintendo, but let's be honest, they're a large company and they want profits. They don't want to ruin their reputation, but if they can get away with it they will.
Only for a free mobile game. Not in full priced Nintendo games unlike EA, Blizzard and Activision. People complained at Mario run for not having. Cant win either way.
I think there's a way to make it okay, and that's if you can't get a character once you have them. Cuz then, once you've unlocked EVERYTHING, there's nothing else to buy, and it'll always be a unique character you get, so, for example, 24 lootboxes can unlock you everything if there's 24 unlocks, and it's just a random order. That would both be lootboxes getting some money off some people who want that one rare character, AND it would have a limit so nobody can blow $2000 on it.
The gotcha mechanic is not as bad as it seems. Yes, you will have an easier time winning if you have the right driver, kart, and glider which can be frustrating when you start the game from the beginning. However, you will eventually get every character as the pipe that you gain characters from (6:41) has a set number of each driver, kart, and glider. It never resets unless manually told to do so. If you got a duplicate item, it levels up its stats or bonuses (like if you got another Toad, then Toad is even more likely to get a mushroom from an item box). It is just a matter of earning (or buying) gems to shoot off the pipe.
I remember the days of being worried about the possibility of DLC being a thing in Mario Kart. Fortunately Nintendo handled it well in Mario Kart 8. Loot boxes on the other hand, I see no benefit to them.
Just Terex Actually the ads in the latest versions are optional to double the end of race rewards, or to skip timers on the lowbie chests. It still has plenty of phone game issues, but it’s better than the first impressions of MK Tour.
Just Terex the pay to win mechanics don’t really exist. I’ve played for a long while and from what I see most people play as who they like not who has the best stats. Most characters are balanced anyways. I gotta agree with the other guy about how it’s much better than this general impression of tour. The tracks do get pretty different later on.
Okay so I can clear up how the character and kart stuff works. Characters have rarities, but this only impacts their base score, which doesn't vary all that much on rarities. All characters have a special item that they can get but it's not common enough to matter. All characters have affinities with certain tracks. Usually each character has ++ affinity with one track and + affinity with maybe two, neutral on all others. + Multiplies your score by 2 at the end of a race, ++ is 3x. Karts and gliders also have affinities with tracks, independent of characters. Karts get speed boosts on tracks they're made for, gliders increase "item luck" which seems to affect your chance to get better items or perhaps to get your character's unique item. Also some gliders seem to have passives that may grant a specific item at race start or raise the chance to get an item from a box, while kart passives usually impact how you interact with gimmicks, like a longer boost from boost pads or drift boosts.
Not quite, if you have a character with good affinity then you get more items per item box (neutral is 1, + is 2, and ++ is 3). Higher rarity characters have more courses that they have ++ affinity for, same for higher rarity karts and gliders. One of the big problems is that "Frenzies" only occur when you get three of the same item and thus are only available to characters with good affinity. This of course also means that higher rarity characters can get frenzies on more courses. You'll have to trust me when I say that I got the ultra rare gold glider and it doesn't only have ++ affinity on one course but like 7 or 8 where I'm at. Aside from that you're pretty spot on.
@@ObserveTheCelestial Oh jeez I only have a few characters and my best is Toadette but I make do for now. Haven't logged in yet today though, I should do that. Thanks for the further details!
Not everyone has parents who buys them switches. A lot of parents think its a waste. And many aren't old enough to work, especially for 300 DOLLARS plus an extra 60 ON THE GAME
I am a player of the beta. It is not cosmetic. Different karts, gliders, and riders have advantages on certain courses. Mario will get three item slots instead of the usual one on Mario Circuit, etc. There is some amount of p2w, but I don't think the advantages you get are so severe that you can win based on that alone. I am consistently getting first place (though yes, it is definitely against CPUs) even on tracks where I have zero advantages. The stamina, so far, is quite generous, as you get all of your stamina refilled whenever you level-up, which at where I am in level (early teens) is enough to fairly consistently last me. I get five hearts from a level up and you get one heart every fifteen minutes. Five races takes me about fifteen minutes anyways, so I get in six races, at which point I'm usually really close to another levelup. Of course, this could change drastically the more levels you have. So far, the game is quite fun. It could be more p2w than I anticipate at the moment, as getting duplicates from the gacha game levels up the character you get a duplicate for, making them more powerful. But we'll see. For the past few days I have been the number one ranked player for the Koopa Troopa Cup (Cpt Minnette), and I haven't even invested a ton into getting my characters to earn more points or whatnot.
Without giving away too much let me just say from the several dozen hours I've put into the beta of mario kart tour it does not seem even remotely pay to win. I've managed to get through every cup in the the beta after pretty much nonstop play of the game and it is incredibly generous. Emeralds are given very generously, I've gotten 100s of them through normal gameplay and you only need 45 for 10 rounds at the pipe. Restoring all 5 of your hearts only takes *one* emerald, for only 2 emeralds you get 12 hearts and for 3 you get 20. I've managed to do just about everything I've wanted in the game through playtime alone. From what is in the beta, this game is one of the least pay to win mobile game I've seen to date.
Yes I've tested to. He's absolutely right. You can beat every single cup without paying for something. There's also another short mode in Mario kart tour that does use diamonds but you can still get them from the cups.
It's a mobile game, if you want a full fledged Mario kart, just play the eight entry. This is made specifically to appeal to people without dedicated systems.
@@firenze6424 You get an objectively superior experience with all content included up front without having to pray to a gachapon machine to get what you actually want. It might be free, but this sort of system requires a time investment and also having to contend with the merciless RNG gods, the only way to bypass this is by coughing up cash anyways. Sides you didn't pay 300$ specifically for MK, you paid that for a system which runs many different games.
@@-lord1754 You do realize FEH has actually been pulling back F2P rewards for a good half a year now, right? There are PLENTY of games that are WAY more generous than FEH. This is made worse by the fact that other games with lower rates don't tend to require you to sacrifice something like 5 rare units to make ONE unit playable.
To unlock characters as you play. You earn the in game currency you need to use the gacha, and never need to use real money to unlock stuff... especially because every character and cart seem identical.
@@bearglove419 Thay aren't, if you have seen any info about it you know that they each give different bonuses on certain tracks and the rarer ones are much better
I got into the beta and I've been playing a good amount. After reading what people were saying I thought, "oh it's not that bad. Sure rewards are a little slow, but I'm having a fairly easy time progressing." But then yesterday I got stuck needing 1 grand star to open the next circuit. Unfortunately I had no top tier karts for the races I had stars left to unlock, so I wasn't getting the speed boosts. So I was stuck on 1 star for 24 hours. I finally grinded it out and got the last star, only to find the next circuit had a 2 hour "build" time to unlock after being unlocked with stars. So that really sucked.
Nintendo making mobile games after the Switch release is... just nonsensical. It's a mobile system. Gatcha mechanics, however, makes me distrust Nintendo as a company.
"Nintendo making mobile games after the Switch release is... just nonsensical. It's a mobile system. " Not really. Think about it like this: the reason the 3DS did so much better than the PS Vita was because Nintendo understands the differences when it comes to designing games for console vs. designing games for handheld. The PS Vita tried to be a console on the go, which made it only really popular with hardcore players, but half of the appeal of a handheld is being able to whip it out at any time, play for a few minutes, and put it away, which games designed for console don't lend themselves well to. Apply that concept to the Switch, and you'll see why Nintendo makes mobile games. The Switch fills part of the handheld niche, but not ALL of it. It's great for playing on the go... unless you want to be able to carry it in your pocket instead of needing a carrying case. And its flagship games are fantastic for long playing sessions, but less so for playing in short bursts. Also, mobile devices provide a great opportunity for Nintendo to make games that are lower-budget and more casual than full-on Switch titles without drawing away from the sales of other games in the same series on Switch. Know what I'm saying? It lets them make another Mario Kart game without creating competition with 8 Deluxe. It let them make another Animal Crossing to tide over the fans until AC Switch while not creating _competition_ with AC Switch. Nintendo has always operated using a two-platform model. Their console games were generally in-depth and their handheld games were generally more casual. The Switch is able to do all console games, as well as the more in-depth among the handheld games, but as far as the REALLY casual games go, those are only really any good on a platform that lends itself well to casual, spontaneous, on-the-go play, and mobile is the best for that.
Switch gamers and mobile gamers are two different markets though. Remember when people were saying the rise of mobile gaming was going to render handheld gaming obsolete? After all, everyone has a phone, mobile games are free to download and there's a huge selection. Yet, handheld gaming is still around, I'm guessing because there are people out there would rather pay full price for a quality game rather than sift through shovelware. You can't say high class restaurants are going to go under because McDonalds also serves food and is much cheaper. It's the same with handheld vs mobile gaming.
@@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 Mobile gaming has absolutely devastated the handheld gaming market- that is undeniable, even if one doesn't necessarily replace the other. If mobile game companies were willing to make fully-fledged games you bet your ass handhelds would be obsolete..
@@hobosorcerer The problem is, very few mobile gamers are willing to pay anything for games so the idea of them selling "fully-fledged games" is a non-starter. I remember when the 3DS was off to a rocky start, Capcom started selling Ace Attorney games for the iPhone. Someone in the gaming media ask them if they would develop new Ace Attorneys for phones and they said "no." Because most iPhone users refused to play more than $3 for a game, they were only planning on porting over the DS games, but there was no way they could even break even developing new games.
@@MuffingDaCabage Thats fine, Nintendo wants to cover a bigger range. I go d´accord with this. And there is no disadvantage for me so... All i am sayingis, that I , personally, won´t be a customer for this product
Like you said with lootboxes, even if they are generous, the core concept is still manipulation/addiction. The same goes for the energy system; it's made to build up a habit to play the game, a manipulation tactic to create addiction. It doesn't matter if it's generous, the core concept is still there.
@@rho-starmkl4483 Mobile gaming was a race to the bottom for so long, it's basically only digital implementations of board games that can get away with charging more than $0.79 as a one off price now. I do wonder if Mario Run would have done better as a series of smaller price gates every x levels, than a singular price after four levels, though.
Beta tester here: I don't think gacha mechanics are necessarily a bad thing. Azur Lane, for example, is a gacha game but the devs are super consumer-friendly, so it can work of executed properly. MKT's main issue is that there isn't any good way of consistently earning emeralds on a day-to-day basis. The main way to earn them is by collecting stars from the cups, but those are a finite resource. Having some kind of daily emerald earning process would also negate the need for the stamina mechanic, which is just plain annoying. You get bonus stamina every time you raise your player level, which creates an illusion of getting more stamina than you actually get, but leveling up becomes harder over time so that bonus will eventually diminish. The main game mode is very obviously not designed for real-time multiplayer, so any hope they'll add it on release is false. They could add a separate mode for real time multiplayer, but since betas are usually feature freezes I would expect such a mode on initial release. But the biggest potential issue of Mario Kart Tour is the most horrible, awful thing imaginable: Blue Shell Frenzies. That shit's terrifying to behold. Overall, the game has potential, but it also has issues. We beta testers have been given surveys to fill out, and I encourage everyone else with beta access to take full advantage of the opportunity to make your voices heard.
Could you clarify when you say the Stars earned from cups are a finite resource? Does that mean you only get them by racing once, and then you can’t get them any more. Does this mean you have a limited amount of gems you can earn by playing the game?
@@jasonjungreis203 Each course in each cup has up to 5 stars that can be earned by achieving a high enough score. Stars can also be earned from challenges, but those are much harder to come by.
@@jasonjungreis203 Challenges seem to be added at a slow rate. There are currently two challenge cards, one of which is set to expire at the end of the beta and one that will unlock in a few days. The first challenge card offers 36 stars for the challenges, and gives a reward of 10 emeralds for clearing all 9 nine challenges. There is also a "regular" card that offers 50 emeralds for completing all the challenges and no stars. Every 10 stars you earn gives you 5 gems and some other bonus. 5 emeralds gives you 1 draw for a random kart, driver, or racer. You can also earn 5-10 emeralds every few days through log-in bonuses. So yeah, emeralds are pretty limited. And earning stars from some courses is hard without having the right karts or drivers, which can mostly only be earned from the gacha.
@Aethix Yea I could see how you could find an issue with that. Do you think it’s still possible to get almost the full experience without paying and waiting a LONG time for the meter? Or do you pretty much have to pay to get all the Kart parts. Because I know while fire emblem hero’s, for example, is technically a gacha game, a lot of people say they haven’t had to pay at all.
I haven't watched through the video all the way yet, but I've been invited to play it, and it definitely isn't a traditional Mario kart game, but it's definitely fun, there's a few flaws I'd say but it has potential (Leaving comments on topics below) 1. The driving is quite smooth, my only issue is that it has a transition period between turning and going straight again after you let go, which feels like your drifting a little bit in a direction you don't want to go. Other than that, the driving is just holding your finger on the screen and sliding left and right on the screen, there is still drifting like any other Mario kart game once you drift long enough. Think automatic from Wii 2. I don't have much to say about the stamina, it's just a little annoying. You use a heart to enter a race and you have 5, so each refresh of your heart's will last you about 15 mins but you get a refresh quite frequently, I don't know the exact timing on it.
Agreed, also I don't get why people complain about portrait mode, like seriously the game plays the same even if it's on landscape mode. I also don't get why people are complaining about Microtransactions, considering there aren't any in the beta
@@stormbreak7003 on portrait mode. I think it benefits the game, personally it makes it easier to whip out the game and play it in short bursts or while waiting for something.
I've been playing with a combination of swiping and the gyro controls, with manual drift on. Not only does it give tighter handling when steering, but the two actually work so well that drifting is more broken than the DS. For example, you can start a right hand drift, and then swipe left to go straight forward, and then tilt left to steer a fair amount left while still drifting right. Essentially, if you know the course well, and you know the next few turns, you can take advantage of the drifting to get an ultra turbo after the last turn. It's broken and I love it.
I'll tell you right now, currently the game is not at all pay to win. Character stats (or more like stat) go up as you race, and the stat is represented just by one number that gives you a bonus to your score when you start the race. If you play well you can earn that score back, or if you just keep racing with that character it'll level up as you play. There are also some items you can buy with coins you get from racing to do a fast level up.
I'm in the beta. It feels like pure gambling. Races are short and this induces a more random outcome; your loadout (driver, kart & glider) is hugely influential to race outcomes; if your need stars to unlock more cups, you need higher scores and thus a better loadout, obtainable only if you buy emeralds to "pull" items from the pipe (aka this game's lootbox mechanic to obtain drivers, carts & gliders). I've become unable to get more stars and unlock more cups. I'm also frustarted that I can't master certain races (aka 5 stars) because I don't have optimal loadouts. So the game is basically over for me. I won't be playing this when it goes gold.
you're missing the point. It's not about products wanting you to spend money, it's about whether that purchase is a payment that gives you ownership of what you've bought. Instead of enticing you to throw your money into the aether and hope maybe youll get something back
@@vanilla8956 The mobile game market isn't big on one-off purchases, to be fair. Most of them cost up to £3-4 at most and a lot of those are free. Mario Odyssey was a console game (or handheld, whichever works); people expected the price and were more willing to pay. I'm not saying the gacha system is good but the mobile and console markets can't really be compared with their price.
Nintendo saying they don't want to take too much money from any one consumer is hilarious PR. They keep their games at full price as long as possible. They artificially inflate demand to keep their products higher priced by limiting supply. They charge ridiculously high prices for any extra accessories. Nintendo is a business that tries to control their image, like most businesses do. It's all fluff.
No thanks. Im not trading my time with MK8 deluxe for a mobile cash in. Ill wait for MK9. And if MK8 deluxe is the last one for a long while like what I think smash bros ultimate will be, then im content with that.
Corey Mckee not a stupid excuse at all, not everyone takes there switch everywhere they go I only take my switch with me if I’m going somewhere where I know I’ll have enough free time. I take my phone with me everywhere. The idea of every mobile game is to have smaller experiences to fill in little gaps of time. They are not tying to replace any switch games.
The game feels fine for now. If it changes there could be problems. The emerald system feels generous enough, Every time you win a race you can get up to 6 grand star's per map. Every 5 grand stars you get you can get either a character, a kart and a glider(tires are with karts and not their own thing) or you can get about 5 emeralds and some coins. Now your not going to be summoning as much as in fire emblem heros or dragalia but it feels like(as of now) when you do summon you get stuff that matters and not fluff. The character teir system is also pretty interesting. There are 3 tiers, normal rare and super rare. Now each character, kart and glider has a map they work best on ( called ++) a map they work decently on(called +) and a map they dont get bonuses on. Normal characters( and in turn karts and gliders) get 1 + and 1 ++ map a rare character gets 1 ++ and 2+ maps and a super rare character gets 2 ++ and 2++ maps. That being said it's not a really big deal as even against super rare.(player bots? I cant tell what I'm racing honestly) on a normal character you can win relatively easy. The stamina system isn't much of a problem to start out with either. You get 5 hearts and it takes 1 heart to race. As you race depending on how you do, what place you in and the level(not rarity) of your character, kart and glider you get points. These points are used to determine the amount of grand stars you get and your xp. After leveling up you get 5 hearts back. Theres a max of 5 hearts you start with and that waiting will give you. But if you level up you can overflow above 5 based off how many hearts you still have. (I'm only level 10 but so far it seems to be a static rate for ever level) the coins will not be purchasable(though you can purchase limited access to a special coin course to get more) the coins are used to buy karts and gliders(theres only 3 per day and it rotates daily) and you can buy level boosters with them. The biggest problem with the game however is the maps. The games maps(along with the entire game) are based off of Mario kart 7. While Mario kart 7 is my personal favorite, basing the games maps off of it leads to the problem of repetition. You see as far as I've gotten (6ish cups in) some of the maps repeat themselves. After a while it gets harder to unlock more grandstars(you dont spend them you just need a certain amount) Though it could be that in the beta you cant unlock 200cc to add a higher point muliplier for winning. That gift box you see in the top right requiring grand stars is how you get the previously stated emeralds for every 10. That's all I can think about telling you. The general gameplay is fun but progression can get annoying(blue shells and my personal hatred for specific bounties/challenges). Thank you for reading arlo and sorry about the lack of paragraphs as I'm on mobile and for my writing habits.
Things MKT does good: - Brings back old items like the Mega, Bowser's Shell, etc... - Essentially brought back mission/competition mode - Implemented reverse tracks finally Things it does bad: - Everything else also if you want more details on actual content arlo, the mariowiki page is pretty good for that www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Kart_Tour
The game relies on you having certain characters and karts for certain maps for objectively better stats, and the more you summon a single thing and use it, the stronger it is. I never thought a Mario Kart game could be this numbers based but...they did it.
I'm not disagreeing or disrespecting your stance, but Gacha is very different from loot boxes in my personal opinion. Gachas are like toy machines where they drop similar content, with "special editions" and the like to garner interest in buying (in fact, that's exactly where the name derives from.) This usually comes with the ability to "buy out" a gacha, such as hitting guarantees or having higher rates than normal. Loot Boxes on the other hand don't give out the same level of content. You can get pretty basic things like icons or voice lines/win quotes, or things you most want like skins or emotes. Best case is that there are fail safes to get to the higher end content (like currency or a gacha like "no duplicate" system.) But this doesn't always occur. Gachas always give you something you're technically looking for, just not all of them are as good as each other. Loot Boxes give you things you aren't exactly looking for in the chase of getting things you do want. Which are different from Loot Crates as well, which are a like a combination of the two forms (always giving you things of the same content, but without the guarantees or similar things.) Gachas, imo, are much better than Loot Boxes. But _SHOULD NOT_ be used in paid games. None of them should be. If your paid game needs micro transactions, make people be able to buy them out right. You don't need to manipulate players to give you money if they already bought your game, because they're already willing to give you money for the game.
I'm in the beta myself and I will say it's not as bad as you think. The only thing I would change is the stamina meter. The mechanics are solid and I've actually had a lot of fun with it, and trust me I'm a hardcore MarioKart player if the controls sucked I would say so.
im also in the beta, if this game releases with a stamina meter, i will not be playing it. i absolutely hate stamina systems. Im hoping everything will be limited to cosmetics and the gacha mechanic, and hoping the rarer characters arent faster.
The waiting, the repeating courses, the difficulty spikes, the ridiculously low RNG (1% of an ultra rare, .3 if you want someone specific), and the boosts for specific characters, karts, and gliders per level, and did I mention the WAITING, all bring the experience down. If there's any questions from anyone, I'd be happy to answer more
"Nintendo doesn't want whales." *goes up against Aether Raids team with two +10 Summer Camillas* Wellp, with certain Fire Emblem fans, it's kinda low-hanging fruit
Clarification to Game Mechanics - Being a Beta Tester Stars Obtained per race (max 5). Points are awarded each race. If you meet point thresholds you get the allotted the amount of stars. ex. 1000 points = 1 star, 2000 points = 2 stars, etc. Star Track As you gain stars, every 10 gained will give you rewards. Types of Rewards: Emeralds: x5 or x10 Coins: x50 or x100 Characters with their karts and gliders. ex. Yoshi, Turbo Yoshi, Peach Parasol Hearts Basically energy. One heart is required per race and each heart refills every 12 minutes. As you gain experience and level up you regain 3 hearts immediately. (I was able to play more than 2 hours straight by leveling up) Coins Gained as you complete races (around 3-20 depending on how much you pick up while racing) Used to purchase karts, gliders or passes from the store. Emeralds The in game currency you purchase. Spend x5 to fire the pipe once. Spend x45 to fire 10 (gacha mechanic) Can obtain drivers, karts, gliders, or passes. Can get them every 10 stars :). Point and Skill Passes Each driver, kart and glider has Points and Skills. Add one point to the respective element. Points Add up all points for driver, kart and glider to give you your initial points. --> More points results in more stars at the end of the race. (Refer to Stars at top) Skills Driver Skills - Results in MORE POINTS or COINS when using the character on special stages. Kart Skills - Results in SPEED INCREASES on + and ++ courses. Additional points and coins can be received too. Glider Skills - Results in HIGHER LUCK on + and ++ courses to receive the item associated with that glider. Additional points and coins and be received. ex. Super Glider --> Special Skill of Super Horn --> Increased chance of getting the Super Horn if you use the Super Glider. + Signs Driver --> ++ Three Item Slots given, + Two Item Slots given, _ One Item Slot given Kart --> ++ Big Speed Boost, + Speed Boost, _ Speed Unchanged Glider --> ++ Big Item-Luck Boost, + Item-Luck Boost, _ Item Luck Unchanged. P.S. If you want any more information reply. Reply too so I can make this comment more digestible. XD
The thing that worries me about Mario Kart Tour is that it feels like a ported Mario Kart game to mobile with gotcha mechanics added. Every track and kart part so far has been seen in a previous Mario Kart and to use stamina and microtransactions to play what we can already do in MK8D is what I find worrisome.
@@TheSherriea1 A) Instead of replying with something relating to the topic at hand you just insult their icon? You must be a great person to be around... B) At least they have an icon. Come on, you're insulting somebody's icon when you don't even have one yourself? C) Your grammar is awful and that's a really weak insult. You honestly sound like a 7-year-old.
I've been grinding on the Tour Beta. Progression walls of getting stars to unlock more cups become a pain in the pipehole at a certain point. The character/kart/glider favoritism for courses is also atrocious imo. Especially the characters that a course within a cup favors; as they get 3 items while everyone else gets 2 or 1, which leaves little to no room for racking up your score. But the gameplay itself is pure fun. I personally use gyro to steer, and, while not being responsive 100% of the time, I can still perform well with it. I simply hope Nintendo and DeNA listen to feedback and fix what needs major tweaks. Despite all the slowdowns, Tour is probably the most fun I've had with a mobile game.
So I have the beta, and hopefully it helps a bit from what it does. Every character is good at certain stages and who they put an emphasis on (like the 3DS Peach castle, Toads may be the best in the Toad cup but the same stage in the peach cup may not be as advantageous). Stages repeat every few cups, but they have different requirements to be the best. 3 different buffs : Character buff (items being held)(can hold 3 items, 2 or 1) Kart and Glider have different boosts.
8:25 "The loot boxes could just have cosmetic stuff." You know what? I call B.S. on that. It's *not* OK to lock *anything* behind micro-transactions. Even if it is just cosmetic, some people actually do like that stuff and really want it. It's wrong for the rest of us who don't care about cosmetic stuff to throw them under the bus as a "compromise" to the game developer.
Super Mario Run: 10$, no microtransactions EVERYONE COMPLAINTS Mario Kart Tour: free with microtransactions EVERYONE COMPLAINTS Yeah Nintendo can't make everyone happy :/
I really hope they have live multiplayer battles. I don't see why they couldn't do it. Dragalia Lost is all live co-op and works really well. That was codeveloped by Cygames though...
As someone who's part of the beta, I find the gameplay to be genuinely fun, I just think they should tone it down with the just straight up benefits of paying, not only because duh, but also because it limits choosing stuff like characters just for self expression Edit: I should mention, how it works is that certain characters, karts and gliders will give you benefits depending on which track you're playing on. It's also often things like on a koopa-themed track, playing as koopa troopa will give you the benefits
I don’t mind gacha so long as it is at least as user friendly as Fire Emblem Heroes. I’ve spent nothing on the game and I’ve played since launch. I have plenty of orbs for whenever one of my favorite characters gets a new alternate unit.
Honestly, I'm not too worried about the "lootboxes" in a Nintendo mobile game, based on past experience. In Animal Crossing Pocket camp, you constantly get free fortune cookies and the prizes are in no way necessary to the game, nor do they give you any sort of advantage. They just give you something new to sell or put in your camp or trade to get snacks for your campers. I trust Nintendo to do these sorts of things correctly and not in a way that becomes addictive or requires constant micro-purchases with free money. I guess we'll see if they continue this good track record in MKT.
@@Tim-007 With all due respect, that is an appeal to authority fallacy. I don't recognize the Belgian government, courts, or citizens as a moral, legal, or even technical authority in any way. I can't speak to Fire Emblem, as I haven't played that in many years. I can only speak to Animal Crossing Pocket Camp, as I've played it on a nearly daily basis since the day it came out. And there is nothing in that game that you cannot acquire through normal gameplay without paying a single penny, and frankly, no compelling reason to acquire more fortune cookies at all, beyond the half-dozen or more that you are given daily for free through normal play.
@@MarsupialGamer Well apparently Nintendo does take that ruling quite seriously. So seriously in fact that instead of just fixing whatever it may be that got Belgian governor's so pissed off they decided to just pull the plug out of those games in Belgium and to not release any future mobile games in that country that might piss those governor's off.
@@Tim-007 EDIT: I reworded this response to be a bit less snarky, without changing my original meaning: Indeed. As the owner of a game development company myself, I might be tempted to do the same as Nintendo, if faced with those prospects in certain countries. I'd be very reluctant to comply if a foreign government required, for example, that I censor my original work in a way that I felt would be compromising or damaging to the product in some way.
@@MarsupialGamer Yeah cause who cares about the rules and whatever consequences not following those rules may have right? Nintendo sure doesn't which is why they're making their inability to follow the rules of a country the problem of their customers, some of whom have spent a pretty penny on the games that are now on the chopping block. Oh well guess Belgium is getting an early taste of the inevitable so that's at least something.
Beta tester here. Gyro steering is in the game. It's optional though, and disabled by default. Lootboxes are worrisome, mostly because characters, karts and gliders have advantages over others in certain tracks, and if you don't have the right combo, you'll be struggling. But yeah, the game is generous in giving you plenty of gems and coins. I don't like the fact that you don't play with others in real time. I might as well play MK8D in single player and have a similar experience. Tracks repeat. A lot. I'm sure in the full release and beyond they'll add more tracks (I fully expect all tracks from SMK to MK8 to be in Tour), but for now they only have a small smattering of them. The Stamina system is barely an issue for me. Then again, I don't play for hours on end and when I hit my lunch break or my commute I already have all 5 hearts ready to go. The game has a LOT of different trinkets to do different things. Tickets for your characters, for gliders, for items, for coins... it definitely gives the impression that they were thinking about monetization with those things. Speaking of monetization, NO ONE CAN BUY ANYTHING DURING THE BETA TEST. The option is locked out, and if someone tells you otherwise, they're lying to your face. Overall, the game is fine, but not fantastic. I think it'll do what Nintendo is seeking to do with all these games: reach an audience that will enjoy this, have them wish for a more robust experience, and sell that audience a Switch with a copy of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. EDIT: Any questions, don't hesitate to ask.
I've been playing it and it's really fun. There very clearly is a microtransation model almost in place. As for the races, I usually get around first place every time that's definitly an issue.
I am wonderful Arlo, thank you for asking. Being done with school and having nothing better to do, I’m probably going to binge your videos because you are way more funny than some of the other RUclipsrs I watch, and I’m just really really glad I found your channel. Your the best, and keep the good work!
when i first heard about it i was shocked but now i don't care about the gatcha in the game anymore because it's anyway just a singleplayer game. If they are equally generous with their gatchas like in fire emblem, then you never have to pay anything. But I agree that all free 2 play mobile games have some mean psycho tricks to make their money
I got an invite and have been checking it out. You accelerate by pressing the screen, while pressing screen you move your finger left or right to turn and there actually is power sliding so you release your finger to engage the boost. To shoot items, you tap the screen and you get three item pickups every time you hit a question mark. All in all, it is simple and fun but it’s definitely not playing online players but more like in regular Mario kart where you play “ghosts” in time trials.
One thing to note: the energy being generous is probably just because early stages of mobile games are designed to appear more generous than it actually is. Most mobile games it'll take you a few levels to ever run out of energy unless you just start losing a lot. It's all about getting you hooked and sunk cost fallacy.
After playing the Beta a little bit more than I should've, there's a couple of things to point out: 1- Gonna start with the big one, microtransactions. While not being available for purchase in the Beta, the game is going to be aimed towards them. They come in the form of "Emeralds". Emeralds are utilized towards purchasing new characters, cars, or gliders. In the Beta, you can earn Emeralds by getting better scores in tracks, which in turn gives you Shine Sprites, and each time you collect 10, you get a bonus (sometimes Emeralds, sometimes a character, these are all predetermined). You "insert" the Emeralds into a pipe (5 at a time), which has an assortment of 100 items, some rarer than other, and you're guaranteed to draw out the "Spotlight" character (Beta has Metal Mario there) before the pipe is empty. You can also utilize Emeralds to play Coin Rush, which is the best way to supply the free currency in the game, Coins. Why is it the best way? Because out of a race you get about 10 - 20 coins at a time, and you need 1,000 for the cheapest items. 2- General progression is limited. What I mean by this, is that you have to play quite a bit to be able to earn better scores, which in turn gets you more Shine Sprites (You can get up to 5 per track, 18 per cup). The way scoring works is that the CC you play in, the higher it is, the more points you earn for being first place. More than that, each character, vehicle and glider has a value, which adds up to the points accumulated during the race, and the reward points from your standings. Some characters have better chances of accumulating points during races, usually being the ones to which the track is themed after. For example, in Toad Circuit, if you play as Toad, you get 3 items per item box, making it possible to get 3 of the same, causing a spike in your score which later on becomes the only way to get the high score on a track. 3- The driving is intuitive, but ALSO very intrusive. What I mean by this, is that it's easy to play, but it also always has Auto Steering (MK8 Deluxe's fault to be honest) on, which more often than not steers you away from shortcuts, ramps, and sometimes even item boxes. The game always has auto accelerate on as well, which by itself is not a bad thing. For steering, you put your finger on the bottom of the screen, and swipe back and forth to curve to the side you swept to. You can also set gyro controls which enable other movement options such as tap and hold to drift (If you have tap and hold for drift without gyro, every time you touch to steer, you will drift.) All in all, it's not a terrible game, at least not to me, but it does have plenty of flaws that hopefully will be fixed for release.
I think saying that nintendo doesn't want to exploit people is incredibly naive. They of course don't want to ruin their reputation, but they've been testing the waters with these mobile games. If they can get away with it, there's no reason to believe that nintendo will do what is best for their bottom dollar, as any large company would.
I agree and feel the same way, I love my Nintendo systems but they are greedy just like any other major company. Otherwise they wouldn't be putting their games on mobile to begin with rather than other consoles and pc.
In Pokemon Rumble World for the 3DS, one of nintendo's free games, there was a mechanic implemented where if you spent a certain amount of money on the game, it would literally PREVENT YOU FROM GIVING THEM MORE MONEY and summon an object which gave you paid currency daily. You hit this point at like $10 or something crazy like that. Basically earned infinite goodwill from me on that one. They are not just saying that they don't want to be exploitative with this stuff, they are actively doing it.
I have the beta and I would like to say a few things from what I played, I've done about half the game so far and I don't get a pay to win feeling from this so far.you get so many characters and parts by the first few cups that you will almost always have at least a 2 star bonus on all categories. The gatcha mechanics Haven't really been the problem at all,the biggest issue is the steering and controls. I have only fallen off a track once while I was out with a blue shell over the edge, you are basically playing with 8's handicaps all on to the max,I have tried several times to go off road for short cuts but it's almost as if there is a invisible wall on the sides making it so hard to go off road that it actually makes the game harder in the later half when the ai starts actually doing well
I think it is really important that you made this video. Communication is key. If the fans can see something wrong and worrisome, then it's our responsibility to voice our criticism. In turn, its Nintendo's responsibility to listen. And we all know that Nintendo is industry leaning in this regard. You making this video is honestly a service to Nintendo and their fans. Ty again and looking forward to when you play it!
I mean, the Koopalings are ranked as "Super Common", so I don't have any problem with unlocking them. Other than them, I don't care about anyone else. I didn't play the beta, but from what I heard, it was exactly what I expected: a simplified Mario Kart 7, with 8's character roster.
I think you will care quite a bit when someone hits you with a blue shell they "earned" by cash-grinding the ability to get devastating items much faster than you! But hopefully the reaction from the Nintendo community are as loud as it seems to be so Nintendo wont implement so aggressive microtransactions with lootboxes on top kind of crap =\
It uses MKDS Missions, Double Dash/DS karts and Double Dash Items. Also returning item giant mushroom is back! They've also changed how some of the items work: fire flower surrounds your kart and can be thrown all at once, throw two bombs at once, and the boomerang spins in a big giant circle.
@@FletcherReedsRandomness Oh it will. I can picture something similar to Smash Ultimate with returning Kart drivers. At least im hoping. I dont think they will add every single course though.
After playing the beta for a dew days i have to so say that the whole hearts and gems and loot crate type of thing ks not a big deal at all. It never interfered with me personally playing. I mever ran out of hearts even playing for an hour. The gems are really easy to get making the loot actually free which i really appreciated. Some characters do have some advantages but none are "OP". Take all this for what you will
People are overhyping and exaggerating that micro transaction stuff way too much. You constantly get free emeralds, racers, karts, gliders and hearts. The gacha gives you the spotlight items guaranteed after a certain amount of pulls. And since the game is CPU based, the boosts don't matter. You also don't need the better characters or karts to win because of the racing skill required. It is definitely not pay to win.
You should be a voice actor because of your ability to drastically change your voice between videos. Really loved that British accent you made in your previous video.
That statement from Nintendo regarding mobile games was made under prior leadership. Under Iwata, they swore they won't ever make mobile games. Just something to think about.
I’m not sure what you were expecting from a mobile game in terms of loot boxes. From what I know about the game, Nintendo’s way of making it less scummy is that you can’t get the same characters and karts more than once.
@@usermcskull4713 Nintendo announced 3 days ago that their mobile games containing gacha elements, namely Animal Crossing Pocket Camp and Fire Emblem Heroes, won't be available anymore in Belgium soonish. Due to the lootbox ban. And considering Mario Kart Tour is also going to have gacha, it's safe to assume it won't be released in Belgium either. I'm sure you can find Nintendo's statement on the matter with a quick Google search.
@@jackgarcia5926 yes, the game has 30 characters, but Wario is "rare" so it might be a while before you pull him if you're not throwing a lot of money at the game. There are characters earned from gameplay but they're commons, and not all racers are balanced. Rarer they are, the better skills they have and the more points they're worth. (There is an ultra rare, so there are characters better than wario)
Oh, but if you're buying you wont get duplicates until you reset the pool. There are 100 possible things to get (racers, cars, gliders), once you get one it wont appear again until you get all 100 or you press the "reset" button. Getting the same thing again will level said thing up awarding more points for the races you use it
...Please let this micro-transaction thing for Mario Kart not fully come to pass. From somebody who plays FE: Heroes daily I can say that it has micro-transactions too--but honestly it's not a game I've minded putting a few bucks in to here and there because it feels like the developers are constantly working at making Heroes more enjoyable with a surprisingly fast growing variety of different forms of content. Also the whole 'stamina' thing they may even do away with because the game practically gives away free stamina restore items for every ant you step on, which is admittingly, hilariously satisfying. The game's main currency which you can spend real money on is also gifted to players at a considerable rate. On a few occasions they've even just given players 20$ worth of the in-game currency just for free for logging in to the game. So the air around Heroes feels more gratuitous towards its dedicated player-base, so it's payment aspects aren't terribly intrusive--mostly in part to its audience being older and knowing more about restraint... Something like Mario though, which is made to appeal to a much wider demographic--especially younger children? I do agree--It's worrisome seeing it.
Hey Arlo! I got invited to the beta, and I've been playing for the past few days. Without buying anything from the shop with in-game currency (because real money use isn't available in the beta), I've already gotten 3 karts and 4 drivers unlocked that I've been upgrading a crazy amount by only playing the game. I haven't felt the need to speed up any process, and when I run out of hearts (which let players play races, 1 heart = 1 race), the longest I've had to wait so far to get back into the action has never been more time than a quick walk around the house. It seems (though I may be wrong about this) that I've become 16th in the rankings out of all the people playing the app for the green shell cup, so far without really trying. I don't mean to brag: what I'm saying is that if I can do it, anyone can, and without paying too much to boot :) Unless they change how long it takes to get items/tickets between now and when the game's released, I think it'll be one of the kindest microtransaction/gotcha systems on phones there is. Btw, I love your content. You're truly one of the most respectful and inclusive gaming channel icons. Keep on keeping on, and I'm glad your bronchitis is going away :)
I honestly have no need for mobile games. If there’s ever a time when I’ll be portable for a good amount of time, I’ll have my 3ds or Switch. If not, I’ll watch RUclips, watch anime, work on a RUclips script, or work through my todo list. The only mobile games that I’m ever really interested in nowadays are ones that are already on other platforms, bc it kinda ensures quality. For example, I’ve played Phoenix Wright 1 and Dual Destinies on mobile. That being said, I’m probably gonna play Mario Kart Tour at least a bit, bc I’m a sucker for Mario Kart
So I was lucky enough to take part in this beta and the thing that is most interesting to me is that it's fun to play! I look forward to these short little races and it makes it easy to get a couple in while in the car or waiting for a match in Splatoon or Tetris 99. The mechanics haven't really interfered with my experience and I've been trying to gather every Grand Star that I can on each race, but I think as a long-term game, the most fun will come from competing with your friends for the best times you can get. Go Arlo!
So the drivers are based on a roll system where you have to use emeralds to unlock more (premium currency). You get the emeralds by winning cups, leveling up, gifts from leveling, and challenges (based on how much I've played. Also, your karts, characters, and accessories level up. Personally, i like the character/kart mechanic in this game and how it gives you boosts depending on what you choose per track. It adds to the difficulty. Granted opponents are CPUs atm, it still plays well and is actually a lot of fun.
Notably the CPU multiplayer may just be due to the size of the testing group
Might be like Mario Run
true
Hope it stays that way
@@Blitterbug agreed. I hate other people.
That is true, but the way some people talk about it seems like they weren't told that at the start, and they figured it out afterwards,
Nintendo: Don’t share photos!
Photos: I am inevitable
Patrick: No, this is Patrick
And I am Nintendo Ninjas
It was inevitable
Tino Of Time
photo's: I'm about to end this company's whole career
Morgz: Is this my new upload?
Arlo, you forgot about the most worrisome part that Mario Kart Tour brings to the table.
*Quintuple Blue Shells.*
Wait...you mean...5 OF THEM?!? HOW ON EARTH?!?
With a low cost of $99.99 and $120 with an inclusion of a season pass
@@Banjoisawesome
Frenzy Mode. If you get three of the same item, you get Star Power AND unlimited use of said item for a few seconds.
Thankfully, as far as I've experienced, only one blue shell can be on the course or in your inventory at a time.
But man, would blue shell frenzy be fun.
@@GmNdWtchr96 That sounds way OP!
Can’t wait for “Don’t drive and Mario Kart Tour”
Don't play Drive while Karting
First comment as a high school graduate I'm proud
Oh no... could you imagine if they came out with a visor that could turn your phone into an AR game while you drive...
"I swear, officer, I only swerved into that cyclist because there was a green shell coming right at me."
Don't drive and drive
Don't drive and drive
“I’m Really no fan of gyro tilting”
*Mario Kart Wii wants to know your location*
I think it's kinda different tilting a controller instead of the screen you're playing on
The screen and controller being the same thing kills gyro viability
I forgot that the screen is actually the controller
@@RhythmGrizz but that's how switch works in handheld. I've played Splatoon in handheld without issue.
I'm using tilt controls!
0:35 damn that green shell tho
Ikr lol
Don’t think I’ve ever successfully hit someone with a green shell.
@@tristanneal9552 It should be easier i mk8
I did, *2 times.*
How would they possibly expect a semi-public beta to operate under some sort of embargo? Vintage Nintendo.
Who says they expected it to stay hidden? Just because you tell people "Don't do this thing" doesn't mean you believe it will work. But by making that part of the conditions, they have the right to do video takedowns on people who break the NDA.
They're not stupid. They know the best way to get the Internet to do something is to tell them to not do it. They wanted leaks, and videos like these to pop up to get people talking about it.
An NDA usually works as opposed to just asking nicely.
So glad you're back and sounding better ❤️
What do you mean? He was always there, calmly judging the man that lend his voice to him xD
I liked Ahlo
They should cohost
5 pack of blue shells, only $4.99!
The microtransactions are NOT as heavy as people are saying. This is Nintendo, not EA. I have most of the characters and karts and you cant buy anything on a beta
@@coldfireball6384 Exactly. Unlocking racers in a gacha manner isn't the best choice, but it's not the extreme MindightNaomi described.
alan batres And then full game gets released and we have racers and vehicle parts that are only available for a chance to purchase for three days.
@@rho-starmkl4483 Yup... I mean I like nintendo, but let's be honest, they're a large company and they want profits. They don't want to ruin their reputation, but if they can get away with it they will.
I’ve played FEH and DL, trust me it’s a very generous gacha-based unlock system, not EA’s cluster of “pay x amount for something not quite worth it”.
Funky Kong on flame rider: _exists_
Pay to win player: I’m about to end every other players whole career
Mario Kart with loot boxes?
Now THAT is worrisome.
Only for a free mobile game. Not in full priced Nintendo games unlike EA, Blizzard and Activision. People complained at Mario run for not having. Cant win either way.
I think there's a way to make it okay, and that's if you can't get a character once you have them. Cuz then, once you've unlocked EVERYTHING, there's nothing else to buy, and it'll always be a unique character you get, so, for example, 24 lootboxes can unlock you everything if there's 24 unlocks, and it's just a random order.
That would both be lootboxes getting some money off some people who want that one rare character, AND it would have a limit so nobody can blow $2000 on it.
The gotcha mechanic is not as bad as it seems. Yes, you will have an easier time winning if you have the right driver, kart, and glider which can be frustrating when you start the game from the beginning. However, you will eventually get every character as the pipe that you gain characters from (6:41) has a set number of each driver, kart, and glider. It never resets unless manually told to do so. If you got a duplicate item, it levels up its stats or bonuses (like if you got another Toad, then Toad is even more likely to get a mushroom from an item box). It is just a matter of earning (or buying) gems to shoot off the pipe.
I’m honestly exited.
I remember the days of being worried about the possibility of DLC being a thing in Mario Kart. Fortunately Nintendo handled it well in Mario Kart 8. Loot boxes on the other hand, I see no benefit to them.
The moment when the Sonic Forces mobile racing game is better than Mario Kart.
(No stamina, play against live players)
Just Terex eh, when I played it, it was actually pretty fun and I enjoyed the game.
@@waffley9187 All of those except for the ads are in Mario Kart Tour, but Sonic Forces racing is fun.
Just Terex Actually the ads in the latest versions are optional to double the end of race rewards, or to skip timers on the lowbie chests. It still has plenty of phone game issues, but it’s better than the first impressions of MK Tour.
Just Terex the pay to win mechanics don’t really exist. I’ve played for a long while and from what I see most people play as who they like not who has the best stats. Most characters are balanced anyways. I gotta agree with the other guy about how it’s much better than this general impression of tour. The tracks do get pretty different later on.
Just Terex Oh my goodness you’re right, I've bought a pack forever ago that turned off the mandatory ads. 😬 I stand corrected on that.
The only thing that can save this is a *all new funky mode*
& Knuckles.
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Only 99.99!
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@@lastsonoftennessee9895 you know da wae.
I thought the title said “Awesome” instead of “Worrisome” and got a little bit confused.
Sometimes it’s hard to tell with that smiling face.
Nathan L I thought it said "Wholesome" and I was more confused
I thought it was a mixture of worry and awesome, but then I remembered I'm an idiot.
Yeah, I misread it as “Wholesome” and didn’t realize my mistake until halfway through the video. 😅
Hi there again Nathan
Take a shot every time Arlo says "Worrisome"
I'd forget the dozens of things simultaneously stressing me out right now
Okay so I can clear up how the character and kart stuff works.
Characters have rarities, but this only impacts their base score, which doesn't vary all that much on rarities.
All characters have a special item that they can get but it's not common enough to matter.
All characters have affinities with certain tracks. Usually each character has ++ affinity with one track and + affinity with maybe two, neutral on all others. + Multiplies your score by 2 at the end of a race, ++ is 3x.
Karts and gliders also have affinities with tracks, independent of characters. Karts get speed boosts on tracks they're made for, gliders increase "item luck" which seems to affect your chance to get better items or perhaps to get your character's unique item.
Also some gliders seem to have passives that may grant a specific item at race start or raise the chance to get an item from a box, while kart passives usually impact how you interact with gimmicks, like a longer boost from boost pads or drift boosts.
The fact it takes you a paragraph to explain everything really shows how poorly thought out this game was (at least at the time of the current beta)
Ampharosite Seems more like it was strategically planned out so you buy more gacha & micro transactions.
Not quite, if you have a character with good affinity then you get more items per item box (neutral is 1, + is 2, and ++ is 3). Higher rarity characters have more courses that they have ++ affinity for, same for higher rarity karts and gliders.
One of the big problems is that "Frenzies" only occur when you get three of the same item and thus are only available to characters with good affinity. This of course also means that higher rarity characters can get frenzies on more courses.
You'll have to trust me when I say that I got the ultra rare gold glider and it doesn't only have ++ affinity on one course but like 7 or 8 where I'm at.
Aside from that you're pretty spot on.
@@ObserveTheCelestial Oh jeez I only have a few characters and my best is Toadette but I make do for now. Haven't logged in yet today though, I should do that. Thanks for the further details!
Ampharosite: sometimes it takes a paragraph to clear up misinformation that’s being spread with a single sentence.
Honestly, just play Mario kart 8 deluxe. The switch is portable you know?
DarkforceCarl Good thing i lost my cartridge 😭
Tbh I'm scared to loose or break my switch lol
Many people have an iPhone. Many people do not have a Switch.
The switch is $300 you know?
Not everyone has parents who buys them switches. A lot of parents think its a waste. And many aren't old enough to work, especially for 300 DOLLARS plus an extra 60 ON THE GAME
I am a player of the beta.
It is not cosmetic. Different karts, gliders, and riders have advantages on certain courses. Mario will get three item slots instead of the usual one on Mario Circuit, etc. There is some amount of p2w, but I don't think the advantages you get are so severe that you can win based on that alone. I am consistently getting first place (though yes, it is definitely against CPUs) even on tracks where I have zero advantages.
The stamina, so far, is quite generous, as you get all of your stamina refilled whenever you level-up, which at where I am in level (early teens) is enough to fairly consistently last me. I get five hearts from a level up and you get one heart every fifteen minutes. Five races takes me about fifteen minutes anyways, so I get in six races, at which point I'm usually really close to another levelup. Of course, this could change drastically the more levels you have.
So far, the game is quite fun. It could be more p2w than I anticipate at the moment, as getting duplicates from the gacha game levels up the character you get a duplicate for, making them more powerful. But we'll see. For the past few days I have been the number one ranked player for the Koopa Troopa Cup (Cpt Minnette), and I haven't even invested a ton into getting my characters to earn more points or whatnot.
I'm a beta tester as well and I 100% agree!
Without giving away too much let me just say from the several dozen hours I've put into the beta of mario kart tour it does not seem even remotely pay to win.
I've managed to get through every cup in the the beta after pretty much nonstop play of the game and it is incredibly generous. Emeralds are given very generously, I've gotten 100s of them through normal gameplay and you only need 45 for 10 rounds at the pipe.
Restoring all 5 of your hearts only takes *one* emerald, for only 2 emeralds you get 12 hearts and for 3 you get 20. I've managed to do just about everything I've wanted in the game through playtime alone. From what is in the beta, this game is one of the least pay to win mobile game I've seen to date.
I really hope everything you're saying is true
As a fellow tester, I can vouch for everything said here.
Yes I've tested to. He's absolutely right. You can beat every single cup without paying for something. There's also another short mode in Mario kart tour that does use diamonds but you can still get them from the cups.
oh thank god, I didn't want it to be pay to win
@@vectorite5508 Oh trust me, that can change.
It's a mobile game, if you want a full fledged Mario kart, just play the eight entry. This is made specifically to appeal to people without dedicated systems.
That doesn't mean that it can't be a good Mario kart game on its own. Some compromises are expected, but this doesn't bode well.
They get free online though for not paying $300 for a system $60 for the game and we pay for online how is that fair?
@@notrod5341 Mario run was a quality mobile game but people cried that you had to pay for it. You cant win.
@@notrod5341 >expecting mobile games to be anything more than watered down versions of the series they are based off of
@@firenze6424 You get an objectively superior experience with all content included up front without having to pray to a gachapon machine to get what you actually want.
It might be free, but this sort of system requires a time investment and also having to contend with the merciless RNG gods, the only way to bypass this is by coughing up cash anyways.
Sides you didn't pay 300$ specifically for MK, you paid that for a system which runs many different games.
Nintendo: doesn’t want whales and they care about user experiences.
Fire Emblem Heroes: Exists
Nintendo: :)
That is made by IS tough, not Nintendo itself.
@@jackgarcia5926 it made tons more money than mario run, so nintendo decided they should take feh as a model.
FEH is incredibly generous though. I far prefer its current model over spendinG 20 bucks for fe bt watered down
I have been playing it for two years now and at no point have I even been tempted to spend any money.
@@-lord1754 You do realize FEH has actually been pulling back F2P rewards for a good half a year now, right? There are PLENTY of games that are WAY more generous than FEH. This is made worse by the fact that other games with lower rates don't tend to require you to sacrifice something like 5 rare units to make ONE unit playable.
As a feh player, i only have one thing to say to getting characters randomly.
Ah shit, here we go again.
I'm glad to see your feeling better Arlo, keep up the good work
Random gacha mechanics??? Portrait screen touch driving??? I'm really not sure....
*gacha
@@jackgarcia5926 no one cares
To unlock characters as you play. You earn the in game currency you need to use the gacha, and never need to use real money to unlock stuff... especially because every character and cart seem identical.
@@bearglove419 Thay aren't, if you have seen any info about it you know that they each give different bonuses on certain tracks and the rarer ones are much better
@@lucasdrenth4179 I'm aware, but the bonus is basically negated after playing for a few hours because you will eventually unlock them all.
4 months later, and it’s worse than we could ever imagine
Good Job Nintendo, you outdid yourself once again (just in the wrong way this time)
I got into the beta and I've been playing a good amount. After reading what people were saying I thought, "oh it's not that bad. Sure rewards are a little slow, but I'm having a fairly easy time progressing." But then yesterday I got stuck needing 1 grand star to open the next circuit. Unfortunately I had no top tier karts for the races I had stars left to unlock, so I wasn't getting the speed boosts. So I was stuck on 1 star for 24 hours. I finally grinded it out and got the last star, only to find the next circuit had a 2 hour "build" time to unlock after being unlocked with stars. So that really sucked.
Nintendo making mobile games after the Switch release is... just nonsensical. It's a mobile system.
Gatcha mechanics, however, makes me distrust Nintendo as a company.
"Nintendo making mobile games after the Switch release is... just nonsensical. It's a mobile system.
"
Not really.
Think about it like this: the reason the 3DS did so much better than the PS Vita was because Nintendo understands the differences when it comes to designing games for console vs. designing games for handheld.
The PS Vita tried to be a console on the go, which made it only really popular with hardcore players, but half of the appeal of a handheld is being able to whip it out at any time, play for a few minutes, and put it away, which games designed for console don't lend themselves well to.
Apply that concept to the Switch, and you'll see why Nintendo makes mobile games.
The Switch fills part of the handheld niche, but not ALL of it. It's great for playing on the go... unless you want to be able to carry it in your pocket instead of needing a carrying case. And its flagship games are fantastic for long playing sessions, but less so for playing in short bursts.
Also, mobile devices provide a great opportunity for Nintendo to make games that are lower-budget and more casual than full-on Switch titles without drawing away from the sales of other games in the same series on Switch.
Know what I'm saying? It lets them make another Mario Kart game without creating competition with 8 Deluxe. It let them make another Animal Crossing to tide over the fans until AC Switch while not creating _competition_ with AC Switch.
Nintendo has always operated using a two-platform model. Their console games were generally in-depth and their handheld games were generally more casual. The Switch is able to do all console games, as well as the more in-depth among the handheld games, but as far as the REALLY casual games go, those are only really any good on a platform that lends itself well to casual, spontaneous, on-the-go play, and mobile is the best for that.
Switch gamers and mobile gamers are two different markets though. Remember when people were saying the rise of mobile gaming was going to render handheld gaming obsolete? After all, everyone has a phone, mobile games are free to download and there's a huge selection. Yet, handheld gaming is still around, I'm guessing because there are people out there would rather pay full price for a quality game rather than sift through shovelware.
You can't say high class restaurants are going to go under because McDonalds also serves food and is much cheaper. It's the same with handheld vs mobile gaming.
@@kaptinbarfbeerd1317 Mobile gaming has absolutely devastated the handheld gaming market- that is undeniable, even if one doesn't necessarily replace the other.
If mobile game companies were willing to make fully-fledged games you bet your ass handhelds would be obsolete..
@@hobosorcerer The problem is, very few mobile gamers are willing to pay anything for games so the idea of them selling "fully-fledged games" is a non-starter. I remember when the 3DS was off to a rocky start, Capcom started selling Ace Attorney games for the iPhone. Someone in the gaming media ask them if they would develop new Ace Attorneys for phones and they said "no." Because most iPhone users refused to play more than $3 for a game, they were only planning on porting over the DS games, but there was no way they could even break even developing new games.
Nintendo: don’t share the game
Leakers: I..am...INEVITABLE
Hm..I´ll stick to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. Mobile is just not for me
Ditto.
Besides. I can't use the pro controller on my smartphone
Yea this is for the Pokémon go fans of Mario cart f'n casuals ruining my hard core Mario cart speed runs
@@MuffingDaCabage Thats fine, Nintendo wants to cover a bigger range. I go d´accord with this. And there is no disadvantage for me so...
All i am sayingis, that I , personally, won´t be a customer for this product
Mario kart 8 deluxe is mobile 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@samuelbibb5958 if only you would be as sharp as the knife you used to split this hair
Like you said with lootboxes, even if they are generous, the core concept is still manipulation/addiction. The same goes for the energy system; it's made to build up a habit to play the game, a manipulation tactic to create addiction. It doesn't matter if it's generous, the core concept is still there.
I'm playing the beta now.
...Your worries are justified
Yep was just gonna say this. A lot of changes need to be made.
I'm also playing the beta, and I don't get the hate.
It's fun. I haven't felt the need to spend any real money.
"Wait and see?"
Belgium has already made up their minds and they said "No more freemium games!"
And it's very notable that Dragalia Lost, built around loot boxes, didn't release in Europe, at all.
Gizensha Fox If only more people bought Super Mario Run, but $10 was apparently too expensive.
@@rho-starmkl4483 Mobile gaming was a race to the bottom for so long, it's basically only digital implementations of board games that can get away with charging more than $0.79 as a one off price now. I do wonder if Mario Run would have done better as a series of smaller price gates every x levels, than a singular price after four levels, though.
Beta tester here:
I don't think gacha mechanics are necessarily a bad thing. Azur Lane, for example, is a gacha game but the devs are super consumer-friendly, so it can work of executed properly. MKT's main issue is that there isn't any good way of consistently earning emeralds on a day-to-day basis. The main way to earn them is by collecting stars from the cups, but those are a finite resource. Having some kind of daily emerald earning process would also negate the need for the stamina mechanic, which is just plain annoying.
You get bonus stamina every time you raise your player level, which creates an illusion of getting more stamina than you actually get, but leveling up becomes harder over time so that bonus will eventually diminish.
The main game mode is very obviously not designed for real-time multiplayer, so any hope they'll add it on release is false. They could add a separate mode for real time multiplayer, but since betas are usually feature freezes I would expect such a mode on initial release.
But the biggest potential issue of Mario Kart Tour is the most horrible, awful thing imaginable: Blue Shell Frenzies. That shit's terrifying to behold.
Overall, the game has potential, but it also has issues. We beta testers have been given surveys to fill out, and I encourage everyone else with beta access to take full advantage of the opportunity to make your voices heard.
Could you clarify when you say the Stars earned from cups are a finite resource? Does that mean you only get them by racing once, and then you can’t get them any more. Does this mean you have a limited amount of gems you can earn by playing the game?
@@jasonjungreis203 Each course in each cup has up to 5 stars that can be earned by achieving a high enough score. Stars can also be earned from challenges, but those are much harder to come by.
@Aethix. Can you earn unlimited stars from challenges, or is that limited? Does this mean gems are limited?
@@jasonjungreis203 Challenges seem to be added at a slow rate. There are currently two challenge cards, one of which is set to expire at the end of the beta and one that will unlock in a few days. The first challenge card offers 36 stars for the challenges, and gives a reward of 10 emeralds for clearing all 9 nine challenges. There is also a "regular" card that offers 50 emeralds for completing all the challenges and no stars. Every 10 stars you earn gives you 5 gems and some other bonus. 5 emeralds gives you 1 draw for a random kart, driver, or racer. You can also earn 5-10 emeralds every few days through log-in bonuses.
So yeah, emeralds are pretty limited. And earning stars from some courses is hard without having the right karts or drivers, which can mostly only be earned from the gacha.
@Aethix Yea I could see how you could find an issue with that. Do you think it’s still possible to get almost the full experience without paying and waiting a LONG time for the meter? Or do you pretty much have to pay to get all the Kart parts. Because I know while fire emblem hero’s, for example, is technically a gacha game, a lot of people say they haven’t had to pay at all.
I haven't watched through the video all the way yet, but I've been invited to play it, and it definitely isn't a traditional Mario kart game, but it's definitely fun, there's a few flaws I'd say but it has potential
(Leaving comments on topics below)
1. The driving is quite smooth, my only issue is that it has a transition period between turning and going straight again after you let go, which feels like your drifting a little bit in a direction you don't want to go. Other than that, the driving is just holding your finger on the screen and sliding left and right on the screen, there is still drifting like any other Mario kart game once you drift long enough. Think automatic from Wii
2. I don't have much to say about the stamina, it's just a little annoying. You use a heart to enter a race and you have 5, so each refresh of your heart's will last you about 15 mins but you get a refresh quite frequently, I don't know the exact timing on it.
Agreed, also I don't get why people complain about portrait mode, like seriously the game plays the same even if it's on landscape mode. I also don't get why people are complaining about Microtransactions, considering there aren't any in the beta
@@stormbreak7003 on portrait mode. I think it benefits the game, personally it makes it easier to whip out the game and play it in short bursts or while waiting for something.
@@Rampage10320 yeah holding a phone horizontal in one hand would make it hard to reach the other side of the screen to turn.
I've been playing with a combination of swiping and the gyro controls, with manual drift on. Not only does it give tighter handling when steering, but the two actually work so well that drifting is more broken than the DS.
For example, you can start a right hand drift, and then swipe left to go straight forward, and then tilt left to steer a fair amount left while still drifting right. Essentially, if you know the course well, and you know the next few turns, you can take advantage of the drifting to get an ultra turbo after the last turn.
It's broken and I love it.
@@AniMariBro thanks for this, I'll have to try it out
I'll tell you right now, currently the game is not at all pay to win. Character stats (or more like stat) go up as you race, and the stat is represented just by one number that gives you a bonus to your score when you start the race. If you play well you can earn that score back, or if you just keep racing with that character it'll level up as you play. There are also some items you can buy with coins you get from racing to do a fast level up.
"There are also some items you can buy with coins you get from racing to do a fast level up" That certainly sounds like Pay To Win.
I'm in the beta. It feels like pure gambling. Races are short and this induces a more random outcome; your loadout (driver, kart & glider) is hugely influential to race outcomes; if your need stars to unlock more cups, you need higher scores and thus a better loadout, obtainable only if you buy emeralds to "pull" items from the pipe (aka this game's lootbox mechanic to obtain drivers, carts & gliders).
I've become unable to get more stars and unlock more cups. I'm also frustarted that I can't master certain races (aka 5 stars) because I don't have optimal loadouts. So the game is basically over for me. I won't be playing this when it goes gold.
"It wants you to spend and spend and spend."
Any product today.
you're missing the point. It's not about products wanting you to spend money, it's about whether that purchase is a payment that gives you ownership of what you've bought.
Instead of enticing you to throw your money into the aether and hope maybe youll get something back
Its not true. Its extremely generous, its not as heavy as people say! Not at all. Keep in mind most people complaining haven't played it. Give it time
@@vanilla8956 How does the product make money without it?
@@backup368 Without what? Microtransactions? Games like Mario odyssey are bulk purchases and it's not like that didn't make money
@@vanilla8956 The mobile game market isn't big on one-off purchases, to be fair. Most of them cost up to £3-4 at most and a lot of those are free. Mario Odyssey was a console game (or handheld, whichever works); people expected the price and were more willing to pay. I'm not saying the gacha system is good but the mobile and console markets can't really be compared with their price.
"So how bad could it be?"
*Arlo has negative thoughts on a Nintendo product*
"Sweet mother of Myamoto!" O.O
Lootboxes is Mario Kart Tour? Nice, that means I won't get to play it in Belgium. Good job nintendo!
I'm sorry for you. But...
Playing it probably won't be worth it anyway.
Nintendo saying they don't want to take too much money from any one consumer is hilarious PR.
They keep their games at full price as long as possible. They artificially inflate demand to keep their products higher priced by limiting supply. They charge ridiculously high prices for any extra accessories.
Nintendo is a business that tries to control their image, like most businesses do. It's all fluff.
No thanks. Im not trading my time with MK8 deluxe for a mobile cash in. Ill wait for MK9. And if MK8 deluxe is the last one for a long while like what I think smash bros ultimate will be, then im content with that.
The idea is having a quick race when you are just sitting around waiting with a phone, not to replace MK8
Still buying Nintendo Products anyway.
@@coldfireball6384 yeah the good shit. Not this crap.
@@Fizzy01010 thats what my switch is for. As well as my 3ds with MK7. Thats a stupid excuse lol
Corey Mckee not a stupid excuse at all, not everyone takes there switch everywhere they go
I only take my switch with me if I’m going somewhere where I know I’ll have enough free time. I take my phone with me everywhere. The idea of every mobile game is to have smaller experiences to fill in little gaps of time. They are not tying to replace any switch games.
The game feels fine for now. If it changes there could be problems. The emerald system feels generous enough, Every time you win a race you can get up to 6 grand star's per map. Every 5 grand stars you get you can get either a character, a kart and a glider(tires are with karts and not their own thing) or you can get about 5 emeralds and some coins. Now your not going to be summoning as much as in fire emblem heros or dragalia but it feels like(as of now) when you do summon you get stuff that matters and not fluff. The character teir system is also pretty interesting. There are 3 tiers, normal rare and super rare. Now each character, kart and glider has a map they work best on ( called ++) a map they work decently on(called +) and a map they dont get bonuses on. Normal characters( and in turn karts and gliders) get 1 + and 1 ++ map a rare character gets 1 ++ and 2+ maps and a super rare character gets 2 ++ and 2++ maps. That being said it's not a really big deal as even against super rare.(player bots? I cant tell what I'm racing honestly) on a normal character you can win relatively easy. The stamina system isn't much of a problem to start out with either. You get 5 hearts and it takes 1 heart to race. As you race depending on how you do, what place you in and the level(not rarity) of your character, kart and glider you get points. These points are used to determine the amount of grand stars you get and your xp. After leveling up you get 5 hearts back. Theres a max of 5 hearts you start with and that waiting will give you. But if you level up you can overflow above 5 based off how many hearts you still have. (I'm only level 10 but so far it seems to be a static rate for ever level) the coins will not be purchasable(though you can purchase limited access to a special coin course to get more) the coins are used to buy karts and gliders(theres only 3 per day and it rotates daily) and you can buy level boosters with them. The biggest problem with the game however is the maps. The games maps(along with the entire game) are based off of Mario kart 7. While Mario kart 7 is my personal favorite, basing the games maps off of it leads to the problem of repetition. You see as far as I've gotten (6ish cups in) some of the maps repeat themselves. After a while it gets harder to unlock more grandstars(you dont spend them you just need a certain amount) Though it could be that in the beta you cant unlock 200cc to add a higher point muliplier for winning. That gift box you see in the top right requiring grand stars is how you get the previously stated emeralds for every 10. That's all I can think about telling you. The general gameplay is fun but progression can get annoying(blue shells and my personal hatred for specific bounties/challenges). Thank you for reading arlo and sorry about the lack of paragraphs as I'm on mobile and for my writing habits.
Things MKT does good:
- Brings back old items like the Mega, Bowser's Shell, etc...
- Essentially brought back mission/competition mode
- Implemented reverse tracks finally
Things it does bad:
- Everything else
also if you want more details on actual content arlo, the mariowiki page is pretty good for that www.mariowiki.com/Mario_Kart_Tour
Zachruff owo
Zach
Also could potentially be a gateway for people to discover the actual GOOD Mario Kart games if it does well.
"Nintendo seems to have a.....soul" - Arlo 2019
9:30 this didn't age all too well in some aspects
The game relies on you having certain characters and karts for certain maps for objectively better stats, and the more you summon a single thing and use it, the stronger it is. I never thought a Mario Kart game could be this numbers based but...they did it.
I'm not disagreeing or disrespecting your stance, but Gacha is very different from loot boxes in my personal opinion. Gachas are like toy machines where they drop similar content, with "special editions" and the like to garner interest in buying (in fact, that's exactly where the name derives from.) This usually comes with the ability to "buy out" a gacha, such as hitting guarantees or having higher rates than normal. Loot Boxes on the other hand don't give out the same level of content. You can get pretty basic things like icons or voice lines/win quotes, or things you most want like skins or emotes. Best case is that there are fail safes to get to the higher end content (like currency or a gacha like "no duplicate" system.) But this doesn't always occur.
Gachas always give you something you're technically looking for, just not all of them are as good as each other. Loot Boxes give you things you aren't exactly looking for in the chase of getting things you do want. Which are different from Loot Crates as well, which are a like a combination of the two forms (always giving you things of the same content, but without the guarantees or similar things.) Gachas, imo, are much better than Loot Boxes. But _SHOULD NOT_ be used in paid games. None of them should be. If your paid game needs micro transactions, make people be able to buy them out right. You don't need to manipulate players to give you money if they already bought your game, because they're already willing to give you money for the game.
Arlo, will you review TEAM SONIC RACING?
Christian Lakhan I have it on my shelf but haven’t opened it yet in case it’s not worth keeping and I can still return it 😖
I'm in the beta myself and I will say it's not as bad as you think. The only thing I would change is the stamina meter. The mechanics are solid and I've actually had a lot of fun with it, and trust me I'm a hardcore MarioKart player if the controls sucked I would say so.
im also in the beta, if this game releases with a stamina meter, i will not be playing it. i absolutely hate stamina systems. Im hoping everything will be limited to cosmetics and the gacha mechanic, and hoping the rarer characters arent faster.
The waiting, the repeating courses, the difficulty spikes, the ridiculously low RNG (1% of an ultra rare, .3 if you want someone specific), and the boosts for specific characters, karts, and gliders per level, and did I mention the WAITING, all bring the experience down.
If there's any questions from anyone, I'd be happy to answer more
@KayFiOS Finish a cup? The next one's under construction.
"Nintendo doesn't want whales."
*goes up against Aether Raids team with two +10 Summer Camillas*
Wellp, with certain Fire Emblem fans, it's kinda low-hanging fruit
I still don't understand how people manage to +10 event units, I struggle just to get 1 I like.
I have a friend who met a team of legendaries, two being +10 Eirs
Clarification to Game Mechanics - Being a Beta Tester
Stars
Obtained per race (max 5). Points are awarded each race. If you meet point thresholds you get the allotted the amount of stars.
ex. 1000 points = 1 star, 2000 points = 2 stars, etc.
Star Track
As you gain stars, every 10 gained will give you rewards.
Types of Rewards:
Emeralds: x5 or x10
Coins: x50 or x100
Characters with their karts and gliders. ex. Yoshi, Turbo Yoshi, Peach Parasol
Hearts
Basically energy. One heart is required per race and each heart refills every 12 minutes.
As you gain experience and level up you regain 3 hearts immediately. (I was able to play more than 2 hours straight by leveling up)
Coins
Gained as you complete races (around 3-20 depending on how much you pick up while racing)
Used to purchase karts, gliders or passes from the store.
Emeralds
The in game currency you purchase. Spend x5 to fire the pipe once. Spend x45 to fire 10 (gacha mechanic)
Can obtain drivers, karts, gliders, or passes.
Can get them every 10 stars :).
Point and Skill Passes
Each driver, kart and glider has Points and Skills. Add one point to the respective element.
Points
Add up all points for driver, kart and glider to give you your initial points. --> More points results in more stars at the end of the race. (Refer to Stars at top)
Skills
Driver Skills - Results in MORE POINTS or COINS when using the character on special stages.
Kart Skills - Results in SPEED INCREASES on + and ++ courses. Additional points and coins can be received too.
Glider Skills - Results in HIGHER LUCK on + and ++ courses to receive the item associated with that glider. Additional points and coins and be received.
ex. Super Glider --> Special Skill of Super Horn --> Increased chance of getting the Super Horn if you use the Super Glider.
+ Signs
Driver --> ++ Three Item Slots given, + Two Item Slots given, _ One Item Slot given
Kart --> ++ Big Speed Boost, + Speed Boost, _ Speed Unchanged
Glider --> ++ Big Item-Luck Boost, + Item-Luck Boost, _ Item Luck Unchanged.
P.S. If you want any more information reply. Reply too so I can make this comment more digestible. XD
Does it need internet connection to be played. Or can it run offline?
@@rainby7633 It has to be played via internet connection :)
@@thefang9690 yikes
It's great to hear your voice again!
The thing that worries me about Mario Kart Tour is that it feels like a ported Mario Kart game to mobile with gotcha mechanics added. Every track and kart part so far has been seen in a previous Mario Kart and to use stamina and microtransactions to play what we can already do in MK8D is what I find worrisome.
I had no knowledge of this before your video also glad your better
Ewwwww Your Stupid icon.
@@TheSherriea1
A) Instead of replying with something relating to the topic at hand you just insult their icon? You must be a great person to be around...
B) At least they have an icon. Come on, you're insulting somebody's icon when you don't even have one yourself?
C) Your grammar is awful and that's a really weak insult. You honestly sound like a 7-year-old.
@@smbx-jx2zd How is my grammar horrible?
@@smbx-jx2zd thanks for standing up for me! 😃 I don't really like the icon either, so as you can see, I changed it, (not because I read the comment)
@@TheSherriea1 Why is it stupid?
I've been grinding on the Tour Beta. Progression walls of getting stars to unlock more cups become a pain in the pipehole at a certain point. The character/kart/glider favoritism for courses is also atrocious imo. Especially the characters that a course within a cup favors; as they get 3 items while everyone else gets 2 or 1, which leaves little to no room for racking up your score.
But the gameplay itself is pure fun. I personally use gyro to steer, and, while not being responsive 100% of the time, I can still perform well with it.
I simply hope Nintendo and DeNA listen to feedback and fix what needs major tweaks.
Despite all the slowdowns, Tour is probably the most fun I've had with a mobile game.
Anyone come back to watch this after the game launched and saying " wow Arlo was right"
So I have the beta, and hopefully it helps a bit from what it does.
Every character is good at certain stages and who they put an emphasis on (like the 3DS Peach castle, Toads may be the best in the Toad cup but the same stage in the peach cup may not be as advantageous). Stages repeat every few cups, but they have different requirements to be the best.
3 different buffs :
Character buff (items being held)(can hold 3 items, 2 or 1)
Kart and Glider have different boosts.
Guess who's back.
Back again?
He's back again
and about time too
and this time
he's in the mood
@@henryrichard7619 eminem
Not donkey Kong lol
8:25 "The loot boxes could just have cosmetic stuff."
You know what? I call B.S. on that. It's *not* OK to lock *anything* behind micro-transactions. Even if it is just cosmetic, some people actually do like that stuff and really want it. It's wrong for the rest of us who don't care about cosmetic stuff to throw them under the bus as a "compromise" to the game developer.
We have a real Mario Kart on Switch, so I'm not too worried.
Super Mario Run: 10$, no microtransactions
EVERYONE COMPLAINTS
Mario Kart Tour: free with microtransactions
EVERYONE COMPLAINTS
Yeah Nintendo can't make everyone happy :/
I really hope they have live multiplayer battles. I don't see why they couldn't do it. Dragalia Lost is all live co-op and works really well. That was codeveloped by Cygames though...
As someone who's part of the beta, I find the gameplay to be genuinely fun, I just think they should tone it down with the just straight up benefits of paying, not only because duh, but also because it limits choosing stuff like characters just for self expression
Edit: I should mention, how it works is that certain characters, karts and gliders will give you benefits depending on which track you're playing on. It's also often things like on a koopa-themed track, playing as koopa troopa will give you the benefits
arlo, i got one of your t-shirts and it's really nice! thanks for being a great youtuber!
I don’t mind gacha so long as it is at least as user friendly as Fire Emblem Heroes. I’ve spent nothing on the game and I’ve played since launch. I have plenty of orbs for whenever one of my favorite characters gets a new alternate unit.
Honestly, I'm not too worried about the "lootboxes" in a Nintendo mobile game, based on past experience. In Animal Crossing Pocket camp, you constantly get free fortune cookies and the prizes are in no way necessary to the game, nor do they give you any sort of advantage. They just give you something new to sell or put in your camp or trade to get snacks for your campers. I trust Nintendo to do these sorts of things correctly and not in a way that becomes addictive or requires constant micro-purchases with free money. I guess we'll see if they continue this good track record in MKT.
If they really did the whole loot boxes thing properly then Animal Crossing mobile and Fire Emblem mobile wouldn't be facing bans in Belgium.
@@Tim-007 With all due respect, that is an appeal to authority fallacy. I don't recognize the Belgian government, courts, or citizens as a moral, legal, or even technical authority in any way. I can't speak to Fire Emblem, as I haven't played that in many years. I can only speak to Animal Crossing Pocket Camp, as I've played it on a nearly daily basis since the day it came out. And there is nothing in that game that you cannot acquire through normal gameplay without paying a single penny, and frankly, no compelling reason to acquire more fortune cookies at all, beyond the half-dozen or more that you are given daily for free through normal play.
@@MarsupialGamer Well apparently Nintendo does take that ruling quite seriously. So seriously in fact that instead of just fixing whatever it may be that got Belgian governor's so pissed off they decided to just pull the plug out of those games in Belgium and to not release any future mobile games in that country that might piss those governor's off.
@@Tim-007 EDIT: I reworded this response to be a bit less snarky, without changing my original meaning:
Indeed. As the owner of a game development company myself, I might be tempted to do the same as Nintendo, if faced with those prospects in certain countries. I'd be very reluctant to comply if a foreign government required, for example, that I censor my original work in a way that I felt would be compromising or damaging to the product in some way.
@@MarsupialGamer Yeah cause who cares about the rules and whatever consequences not following those rules may have right? Nintendo sure doesn't which is why they're making their inability to follow the rules of a country the problem of their customers, some of whom have spent a pretty penny on the games that are now on the chopping block. Oh well guess Belgium is getting an early taste of the inevitable so that's at least something.
Beta tester here.
Gyro steering is in the game. It's optional though, and disabled by default.
Lootboxes are worrisome, mostly because characters, karts and gliders have advantages over others in certain tracks, and if you don't have the right combo, you'll be struggling.
But yeah, the game is generous in giving you plenty of gems and coins.
I don't like the fact that you don't play with others in real time. I might as well play MK8D in single player and have a similar experience.
Tracks repeat. A lot. I'm sure in the full release and beyond they'll add more tracks (I fully expect all tracks from SMK to MK8 to be in Tour), but for now they only have a small smattering of them.
The Stamina system is barely an issue for me. Then again, I don't play for hours on end and when I hit my lunch break or my commute I already have all 5 hearts ready to go.
The game has a LOT of different trinkets to do different things. Tickets for your characters, for gliders, for items, for coins... it definitely gives the impression that they were thinking about monetization with those things.
Speaking of monetization, NO ONE CAN BUY ANYTHING DURING THE BETA TEST. The option is locked out, and if someone tells you otherwise, they're lying to your face.
Overall, the game is fine, but not fantastic. I think it'll do what Nintendo is seeking to do with all these games: reach an audience that will enjoy this, have them wish for a more robust experience, and sell that audience a Switch with a copy of Mario Kart 8 Deluxe.
EDIT: Any questions, don't hesitate to ask.
Thank you, very cool
I've been playing it and it's really fun. There very clearly is a microtransation model almost in place. As for the races, I usually get around first place every time that's definitly an issue.
I am wonderful Arlo, thank you for asking. Being done with school and having nothing better to do, I’m probably going to binge your videos because you are way more funny than some of the other RUclipsrs I watch, and I’m just really really glad I found your channel. Your the best, and keep the good work!
when i first heard about it i was shocked but now i don't care about the gatcha in the game anymore because it's anyway just a singleplayer game.
If they are equally generous with their gatchas like in fire emblem, then you never have to pay anything.
But I agree that all free 2 play mobile games have some mean psycho tricks to make their money
I got an invite and have been checking it out. You accelerate by pressing the screen, while pressing screen you move your finger left or right to turn and there actually is power sliding so you release your finger to engage the boost. To shoot items, you tap the screen and you get three item pickups every time you hit a question mark.
All in all, it is simple and fun but it’s definitely not playing online players but more like in regular Mario kart where you play “ghosts” in time trials.
Ah. It's a mobile game. Interest in me has declined to -10. You couldn't pay me (less than $50) to play it.
One thing to note: the energy being generous is probably just because early stages of mobile games are designed to appear more generous than it actually is. Most mobile games it'll take you a few levels to ever run out of energy unless you just start losing a lot. It's all about getting you hooked and sunk cost fallacy.
0:00 - Gesundheit, Arlo.
3:00 - Clearly you’ve never played Asphalt 8.😒
After playing the Beta a little bit more than I should've, there's a couple of things to point out:
1- Gonna start with the big one, microtransactions. While not being available for purchase in the Beta, the game is going to be aimed towards them. They come in the form of "Emeralds". Emeralds are utilized towards purchasing new characters, cars, or gliders.
In the Beta, you can earn Emeralds by getting better scores in tracks, which in turn gives you Shine Sprites, and each time you collect 10, you get a bonus (sometimes Emeralds, sometimes a character, these are all predetermined).
You "insert" the Emeralds into a pipe (5 at a time), which has an assortment of 100 items, some rarer than other, and you're guaranteed to draw out the "Spotlight" character (Beta has Metal Mario there) before the pipe is empty.
You can also utilize Emeralds to play Coin Rush, which is the best way to supply the free currency in the game, Coins. Why is it the best way? Because out of a race you get about 10 - 20 coins at a time, and you need 1,000 for the cheapest items.
2- General progression is limited. What I mean by this, is that you have to play quite a bit to be able to earn better scores, which in turn gets you more Shine Sprites (You can get up to 5 per track, 18 per cup).
The way scoring works is that the CC you play in, the higher it is, the more points you earn for being first place. More than that, each character, vehicle and glider has a value, which adds up to the points accumulated during the race, and the reward points from your standings.
Some characters have better chances of accumulating points during races, usually being the ones to which the track is themed after. For example, in Toad Circuit, if you play as Toad, you get 3 items per item box, making it possible to get 3 of the same, causing a spike in your score which later on becomes the only way to get the high score on a track.
3- The driving is intuitive, but ALSO very intrusive. What I mean by this, is that it's easy to play, but it also always has Auto Steering (MK8 Deluxe's fault to be honest) on, which more often than not steers you away from shortcuts, ramps, and sometimes even item boxes.
The game always has auto accelerate on as well, which by itself is not a bad thing.
For steering, you put your finger on the bottom of the screen, and swipe back and forth to curve to the side you swept to. You can also set gyro controls which enable other movement options such as tap and hold to drift (If you have tap and hold for drift without gyro, every time you touch to steer, you will drift.)
All in all, it's not a terrible game, at least not to me, but it does have plenty of flaws that hopefully will be fixed for release.
I think saying that nintendo doesn't want to exploit people is incredibly naive. They of course don't want to ruin their reputation, but they've been testing the waters with these mobile games. If they can get away with it, there's no reason to believe that nintendo will do what is best for their bottom dollar, as any large company would.
I agree and feel the same way, I love my Nintendo systems but they are greedy just like any other major company. Otherwise they wouldn't be putting their games on mobile to begin with rather than other consoles and pc.
In Pokemon Rumble World for the 3DS, one of nintendo's free games, there was a mechanic implemented where if you spent a certain amount of money on the game, it would literally PREVENT YOU FROM GIVING THEM MORE MONEY and summon an object which gave you paid currency daily. You hit this point at like $10 or something crazy like that. Basically earned infinite goodwill from me on that one. They are not just saying that they don't want to be exploitative with this stuff, they are actively doing it.
The ACPC loot boxes are really generous because they give you Leaf Tickets really often.
Arlo: these few features are quite worrisome.
Anti-Gravity: *_Am I A Joke To You?_*
guys, quick, watch before it's gone due to nintendo cutting it down :P
I have the beta and I would like to say a few things from what I played, I've done about half the game so far and I don't get a pay to win feeling from this so far.you get so many characters and parts by the first few cups that you will almost always have at least a 2 star bonus on all categories. The gatcha mechanics Haven't really been the problem at all,the biggest issue is the steering and controls. I have only fallen off a track once while I was out with a blue shell over the edge, you are basically playing with 8's handicaps all on to the max,I have tried several times to go off road for short cuts but it's almost as if there is a invisible wall on the sides making it so hard to go off road that it actually makes the game harder in the later half when the ai starts actually doing well
Watch the video get taken down for the thumbnail and pictures which TECHNICALLY are not supposed to be up but, Were The Internet and We Don't Care! 😃🖒
I think it is really important that you made this video. Communication is key. If the fans can see something wrong and worrisome, then it's our responsibility to voice our criticism. In turn, its Nintendo's responsibility to listen. And we all know that Nintendo is industry leaning in this regard. You making this video is honestly a service to Nintendo and their fans. Ty again and looking forward to when you play it!
I mean, the Koopalings are ranked as "Super Common", so I don't have any problem with unlocking them. Other than them, I don't care about anyone else. I didn't play the beta, but from what I heard, it was exactly what I expected: a simplified Mario Kart 7, with 8's character roster.
I think you will care quite a bit when someone hits you with a blue shell they "earned" by cash-grinding the ability to get devastating items much faster than you! But hopefully the reaction from the Nintendo community are as loud as it seems to be so Nintendo wont implement so aggressive microtransactions with lootboxes on top kind of crap =\
It uses MKDS Missions, Double Dash/DS karts and Double Dash Items. Also returning item giant mushroom is back! They've also changed how some of the items work: fire flower surrounds your kart and can be thrown all at once, throw two bombs at once, and the boomerang spins in a big giant circle.
@@Daniel328DT That stuff is cool. I just wish this stuff was in a new actual Mario Kart game.
@@FletcherReedsRandomness Oh it will. I can picture something similar to Smash Ultimate with returning Kart drivers. At least im hoping. I dont think they will add every single course though.
After playing the beta for a dew days i have to so say that the whole hearts and gems and loot crate type of thing ks not a big deal at all. It never interfered with me personally playing. I mever ran out of hearts even playing for an hour. The gems are really easy to get making the loot actually free which i really appreciated. Some characters do have some advantages but none are "OP". Take all this for what you will
People are overhyping and exaggerating that micro transaction stuff way too much.
You constantly get free emeralds, racers, karts, gliders and hearts.
The gacha gives you the spotlight items guaranteed after a certain amount of pulls.
And since the game is CPU based, the boosts don't matter.
You also don't need the better characters or karts to win because of the racing skill required.
It is definitely not pay to win.
You should be a voice actor because of your ability to drastically change your voice between videos. Really loved that British accent you made in your previous video.
That statement from Nintendo regarding mobile games was made under prior leadership.
Under Iwata, they swore they won't ever make mobile games.
Just something to think about.
Didn't Iwata tell Gamefreak to make Pokemon Go though while in the hospital?
I’m not sure what you were expecting from a mobile game in terms of loot boxes. From what I know about the game, Nintendo’s way of making it less scummy is that you can’t get the same characters and karts more than once.
Not to mention that the game won't be released in Belgium due to the Gacha elements
Wait, are you serious?!? I live in Belgium and I really want to play it, is it all but hopeless for me?!
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Nintendo announced 3 days ago that their mobile games containing gacha elements, namely Animal Crossing Pocket Camp and Fire Emblem Heroes, won't be available anymore in Belgium soonish. Due to the lootbox ban. And considering Mario Kart Tour is also going to have gacha, it's safe to assume it won't be released in Belgium either. I'm sure you can find Nintendo's statement on the matter with a quick Google search.
Noo! That can't be possible :(
You can circumvent this by changing the region info on your Nintendo account IIRC
I'm in the beta, if anyone has questions feel free to ask!
Though gyro tilting IS an option. I dont use it though cuz sliding is more responsive.
I will say this, VERY pay to win
Is Wario in the game?
@@jackgarcia5926 yes, the game has 30 characters, but Wario is "rare" so it might be a while before you pull him if you're not throwing a lot of money at the game. There are characters earned from gameplay but they're commons, and not all racers are balanced. Rarer they are, the better skills they have and the more points they're worth. (There is an ultra rare, so there are characters better than wario)
Oh, but if you're buying you wont get duplicates until you reset the pool. There are 100 possible things to get (racers, cars, gliders), once you get one it wont appear again until you get all 100 or you press the "reset" button. Getting the same thing again will level said thing up awarding more points for the races you use it
...Please let this micro-transaction thing for Mario Kart not fully come to pass.
From somebody who plays FE: Heroes daily I can say that it has micro-transactions too--but honestly it's not a game I've minded putting a few bucks in to here and there because it feels like the developers are constantly working at making Heroes more enjoyable with a surprisingly fast growing variety of different forms of content.
Also the whole 'stamina' thing they may even do away with because the game practically gives away free stamina restore items for every ant you step on, which is admittingly, hilariously satisfying. The game's main currency which you can spend real money on is also gifted to players at a considerable rate. On a few occasions they've even just given players 20$ worth of the in-game currency just for free for logging in to the game.
So the air around Heroes feels more gratuitous towards its dedicated player-base, so it's payment aspects aren't terribly intrusive--mostly in part to its audience being older and knowing more about restraint... Something like Mario though, which is made to appeal to a much wider demographic--especially younger children? I do agree--It's worrisome seeing it.
Hey Arlo! I got invited to the beta, and I've been playing for the past few days. Without buying anything from the shop with in-game currency (because real money use isn't available in the beta), I've already gotten 3 karts and 4 drivers unlocked that I've been upgrading a crazy amount by only playing the game. I haven't felt the need to speed up any process, and when I run out of hearts (which let players play races, 1 heart = 1 race), the longest I've had to wait so far to get back into the action has never been more time than a quick walk around the house. It seems (though I may be wrong about this) that I've become 16th in the rankings out of all the people playing the app for the green shell cup, so far without really trying. I don't mean to brag: what I'm saying is that if I can do it, anyone can, and without paying too much to boot :)
Unless they change how long it takes to get items/tickets between now and when the game's released, I think it'll be one of the kindest microtransaction/gotcha systems on phones there is.
Btw, I love your content. You're truly one of the most respectful and inclusive gaming channel icons. Keep on keeping on, and I'm glad your bronchitis is going away :)
It was evident there would be lootboxes qnd microtransactions. How do you expect them to turn a profit?
Hey, Arlo. Nintendo revealed a Pokemon direct on June 5th. The Kings of Left Field strikes again!
I honestly have no need for mobile games. If there’s ever a time when I’ll be portable for a good amount of time, I’ll have my 3ds or Switch. If not, I’ll watch RUclips, watch anime, work on a RUclips script, or work through my todo list. The only mobile games that I’m ever really interested in nowadays are ones that are already on other platforms, bc it kinda ensures quality. For example, I’ve played Phoenix Wright 1 and Dual Destinies on mobile.
That being said, I’m probably gonna play Mario Kart Tour at least a bit, bc I’m a sucker for Mario Kart
So I was lucky enough to take part in this beta and the thing that is most interesting to me is that it's fun to play! I look forward to these short little races and it makes it easy to get a couple in while in the car or waiting for a match in Splatoon or Tetris 99. The mechanics haven't really interfered with my experience and I've been trying to gather every Grand Star that I can on each race, but I think as a long-term game, the most fun will come from competing with your friends for the best times you can get. Go Arlo!
Team Sonic Racing is out. Wondering what are your opinions on the game
wintertheAmpharos the tracks are amazing but Sega should add a 300cc for a Sonic fast mode
So the drivers are based on a roll system where you have to use emeralds to unlock more (premium currency). You get the emeralds by winning cups, leveling up, gifts from leveling, and challenges (based on how much I've played. Also, your karts, characters, and accessories level up. Personally, i like the character/kart mechanic in this game and how it gives you boosts depending on what you choose per track. It adds to the difficulty. Granted opponents are CPUs atm, it still plays well and is actually a lot of fun.