The problem with fuji is that their AF "updates" are always lack-luster or minimal improvement at best. They still always seem to be three steps behind everyone else, there is always some settings gymnastics you gotta do to get a decent results. How Fuji can never get this right is astounding to me, heck even Nikon quickly surpassed fuji's AF in less time.
For studio portraits, the Fuji system is great. Single point and single frame photos, work great. The continuous auto focus is plain trash. The worst part is the false positive and occasional pulsing.
I updated to 4.0 and the AF for photos has been been so bad. Just not acceptable. Can I reset to factory settings. Will it take me back to the original firmware which was better ?
I'm using X-T5 for weddings and event and have never had any issues with focus. Maybe because i don't know how quick and on spot other cams like Sony are when it comes to focus but for me, my X-T5 and my prime lenses works good and keep my clients smiling.
@@ChillHopChimp I'm saying that real photographers don't have time to look for scenarios where the autofocus isn't 100 percent accurate. I took photos when cameras didn't even have autofocus and oh surprise, even then the photos were mostly sharp. It is more important to understand how a camera works and to use this knowledge for good results than to create clickbait on RUclips.
I had the XH2s on release, liked the camera and the fuji ecosystem. I sold it and went GFX 100S. I just recently sold my GFX and started shooting with an Canon R3. I love the autofocus out of the canon, the system is just HUGE (when RF glass is added). I have been debating going back to the XH2s. Do you feel that the autofocus has gotten worse since the release of the XH2s?
The AF of the previous firmware was an exception. Yes it did make things worse but it does not mean that it keeps getting worse. There are definitely improvements that I notice while shooting more with it
Even with it's not-so=perfect AFC tracking, I still would keep my Fujifilm X-T5. Fujifilm still has the best colours, ergonomics, film sims, and they're cameras that I just enjoy using. I hardly use AFC tracking mode as most of my photos are street or landscape, but when I have (for taking pictures of my family or cars), I've had very pleasing results. I'd estimate that 95% of my pictures using subject tracking (cars) have been in correct focus, with maybe 90% using eyeAF for kids running around in correct focus. I should add that I've only had my camera for 2 months now so I cannot speak for how good/bad the AF was before. I understand that some would jump ship to Nikon or Sony because they need that reliability for their professional work etc, but for me personally, this is not enough for me to get to that stage. The X-T5 is still a great camera that I have a FUN time using, whereas when I had my Nikon DSLR I just wasn't as inspired to go out an shoot. For me, photography is way more than just this AFC issue.
I typically use spot focus, but how does it compare against v1 firmware? Pal2tech seemed to agree with quick testing that the autofocus has improved vs v1.
After the firmware 4.00, in video mode im having pulsing issue with both fuji 35mm f2 and 23mm f2 lenses. With area af, in af-c... the focus goes in-out and sometimes completely out of focus. In video af is not reliable.
I really wish there were not so much brand bashing on RUclips comments. It's is such a waste of time. Fuji's AF needs work. We know this. I appreciate your report Thierry on how it works for you on your X-T5. Thanks for your hard work on this channel and thanks to those who post productive comments. Life's short. You get what you put out there.
Indeed… also because some of these “reviewers” are totally clueless as to how Fuji af works, in conjunction with subject detection, and setting the camera on full manual… potentially (likely) choking it on trying to expose for the detected eye/face, because they are ablivious to the fact, stated very clearly in the Fuji manuals, that exposure on face and eye detection is set to expose the subject correctly…
@@JJARCHIEthis has nothing to do with fuji per-se or “doing AF properly”… it has to do with the fact that many youtubers with videos about how bad fuji autofocus is: 1. Are exaggerating, 2. Haven’t even done due diligence as how to setup and use Fujis AF…! Could it be different? surely. could it be simpler ? Most likely - OMD just simplified their much more cumbersome AF settings in theory newest flagship OMD camera, Fuji could follow suit - but at the cost of flexibility? Maybe, not necessarily- who knows…
@@Mortenthorpe-DK never seen anyone complain how "simple" the sony af system is. You know why ? BECAUSE IT WORKS. How the hell did an xs20 with the 33 1.4 LM lost out against my old old a5100
If someone really is in need of a perfect AF, do not pic Fujifilm. Nevertheless I like my XT-5 because I do not need a perfect AF and I see no alternative on the camera market which I could afford.
These cameras should never have come to market without having been fixed. It's disgusting that Fujifilm continues to release half baked products for its users to beta test. All that said, yes, I still use 2 fuji cameras in my workflow but I am definitely looking for other options given the attitude of the company. The really embarrassing part is that the Sony A73 (from 2018) has less false positives than the XH2s, my bad for assuming it would be the other way around given a 5 year difference in age.
@@ThierryGibralta My comment is on my shoots after the firmware update. It seems they still have a bunch of work to get to a point where they can match their competition's 5/6 year old cameras. I just want them to be doing better in that respect because I enjoy shooting with their products. Make sure to check your results on the 33mm as well, the firmware struggles much more which makes sense because it's tighter. In the end it's about the results, I still get them but would probably have more deliverables with better autofocus in general (or better yet, I'd be able to use continuous).
@@ThierryGibralta Dont pamper Fuji with your takes......it is not enough until they came up with a revulotionary autofocus capability to their cameras. Previously, we were making this same statements that they are fine, and guess what, here we are.
Great video thanks for testing and bringing out the issues - i think that is a very good thing to speak out as a creator and shwo wich problems are we facing with some FWU.
Interesting to read these comments. I shoot headshots multiple times a month with XH2 on AF-C and my hit rate is high. Maybe 3 out of 600 shots are out of focus. And I alternate between 56mm and 33mm.
I am also surprised by the comments 😮 Did not make this to hate on the system but it seems like a lot of people do. I still can do good work with Fuji in my portrait sessions as well, definitely not as high hit rates as I shoot outside but not as bad as what I read.
@@ThierryGibralta Most of the people who seem to be haters are not. In fact they don’t want to switch to any other system. This is about Fuji ignorance and silence about evident issues with their AFC. This is not acceptable at all and that makes people sometimes overreacting but Fuji deserves it.
Same for the X-H2S, I returned mine to B&H, I just think for the price it should auto focus better. Keeping my X-T2, and X-E1 because I really enjoy the colors, but I'm disappointed because I should birds and wildlife and the X-H2s was mediocre. Now I see all of these RUclips creators are doing a hack to go back to old firmware on the X-H2S, this is crazy, Fuji get your act together!
I got rid of my XS20 solely bc of the auto focus. If it wasn't for that it would have been one of my favorite cameras. I considered the XH2 because of the bigger body and more buttons, but I can expect the AF to be just as bad. Unfortunately it looks like we're going to have to wait for a complete new generation of Fuji cameras to fix this. These FW updates aren't doing a thing to improve it. Now that I'm shooting the A6700 I have not had 1 issue with AF. Images are also sharper, that is well known about Sony. Colors aren't as good and neither is stabilization, but I'm okay with that. It's just a tiny bit more work in post.
Not even close to a A6400 🤦🏾 Single point focus is your best friend on Fujifilm and if that's ok with you then you'll be fine. And if that's the way you're going arguably it's best to buy one of the older bodies and spend your money on glass. It isn't worth buying the newer bodies until Fujifilm has sorted their continuous autofocus, you would just be buying half the functionality of a device at full price.
I recently tried to put the XF 150-600 through its paces by shooting some vultures (almost 3 meters wide, not exactly small targets), I think the AF hit rate was below 10%. At this point you really wonder why they even bother selling wildlife lenses. It was before the firmware update though. I’ll give it another try soon, but it really made me consider switching to another brand.
i am planning a holiday in tanzania and Zanzibar in september. i need reliable autofocus by then. if Fuji doesn't give us a fix til then, i will also downgrade my firmware. what good is reala ace if the fotos are put of focus? shame on fuji, its just frustrating and tiring. again and again.
The two disastrous updates were an embarrassment. Like most, I experienced the problems as described here, alongside a major bug… basically, the camera (X-T5) would freeze, forcing me to eject the battery and place it back in a few seconds later… unacceptable! The next day the update that was supposed to fix the problems with the previous updates, seemingly made thinks worse. Not on the AF issues and camera freeze, but shutting down the camera altogether. Re-signed to the fact that I was likely going to have to ship it off to Fuji (out of warranty) and pay whatever outrageous price for the repairs, I took it to my camera store where I purchased it some two years ago, and to my amazement, they re-updated the update so-to-speak and viola, she is performing as new. The big takeaway for me anyway, buy your rigs, and lenses from an actual store, not Amazon or the like, yeah you might save a few $$, but a store whom you trust and have been doing business with (for me, 30 years) is invaluable. I potentially saved $300+ and being without my workhorse camera for weeks, all it cost was $60.00 plush a cleaning and check.
5 tips 1 pick one eye ..it works better 2 choose sensitivity 3 3 choose right lenses ..linear motor lenses 4 use shutter speeds that are slightly higher than normal 5 make sure your sensor and lenses are clean I've tested it extensively.And I've shot weddings with it.And I get a better 90%.Hit riate and i'm pretty happy with that.
If a camera allows you to use certain features, those features should work as intended. If they don’t, it’s the camera’s problem, not the user. Stop blaming the user.
I went to an arboretum the other day to photograph flowers. I had the X-T5 in AF-S mode since I didn’t have a moving subject. The camera would not focus properly within the AF box. What the heck, the latest firmware update now has compromised shooting of still photography. It’s the first time I’ve had a problem with the X-T5 having focusing issues in AF-S mode. These weren’t even “false positives” images. The camera’s autofocus wouldn’t even give me a green box AF confirmation when focusing on a single, subject flower. I noticed that my focusing box was placed directly on the flower while the camera focused on the background space. Recomposing the scene and half pressing the focusing/shutter release button did not help.
Negative. I was well within the minimum focusing distance. It felt like the camera wasn’t even trying to acquire focus from the green focusing box. Soon after, my camera completely froze with a black out screen. I took out the battery to reset camera. Focusing seemed OK after that. I suspecting bugs in the new update.
Good news! I just took my camera to Venice Beach and did some street photography using the X-T5 in continuous auto focus mode at the skateboard park. The camera worked flawlessly with the tracking of the moving subject and acquiring focus quickly. I was impressed with the speed of the camera to re-acquire my subject even after the skateboarder left my field of view at the bottom of a pool and reappearing into the field of view back at the top of the pool lip. I need to examine the sharpness of focus within Capture One. I believe 1/1,800 of a second will be ample enough to handle the motion blur. I was highly impressed! I generally do more single shot auto focus with recomposing my scene with using focus lock.
They will never fix very bad afc. What is funny, they tried with previous and many other fws in past, but it brought a lot of issues, so they just rolled it back and that’s it. It is broken from beginning!
I watched a video from @Iamtongue where he testet the FWU 1.0 to 2.01 for the X-T5 and the FWU 3.0 to 5.01 on the X-H2s it look pretty pretty nice to me equal to some Canons/Sonys/Nikons. At some point they brought in some issues wich they need to fix and they will do that. This update fixed some issues for sure... but they have to do more.
The real tests are those that are done in the real world under normal circumstances and not contrived or trying to do something you wouldn’t normally photograph. For me most of my stuff is single focus and zone focus street photography and most of the time I have no issues. But you do have to use the new linear motors and the newer lenses to get this kind of quality. Or you have to use limit focus, like I do on the 56 1.2 when upgrading to the newer version, which surprisingly gives me much better accuracy Overall. I’m not doing sports or fashion photography so I don’t really use the continuous focus.
Forgot to mention that I used the 18mm for this test. I haven’t checked with the 56 yet but will do. The only issue is that it is hard to reproduce non “controlled” tests. I agree with you, that is what matters most though. Cheers!
totally agree, I use the camera in this way myself. I don't have any issues, but I don't use cf very often. Pal2tech did a test just after the release, and he said it was OK, but I'm sure it's going to be use case specific. It also shows ai is not always perfect.
why would you buy a new fuji knowing that they have never ever got the autofocus sorted. this pipe dream of firmware fixes belies how their false marketing and reliance of our fondness of their color science is effective in convincing people a fix is just around the corner. fuji - your camera bodies, build quality and colors are great but your autofocus is the worst of any major camera manufacturer and you should give everyone back their money. just blatant lying and untrustworthy utube reviews. testing one in a camera store means nothing - all the tracking and hits are mostly false so unless you checkout your memory card at home DONT get sucked in
I've come to the conclusion that a lot of commenters are probably the same camera users who disparrage those who shoot in AUTO, but still expect the camera to do everything for them: Maybe a spell using a film SLR would make them realise just how much of the old skills have been lost, and how much easier it's all going to be as AI takes over.
I do product photography with Fuji cameras and it certainly does that easier than street photography where autofocus needs to be more quick and precise usually.
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I have a Fuji X-T5 updated to firmware 4.0. I have no problems, none. Autofocus works fine.
For your use case. Excellent!
I fixed my XT5 AFC problem by picking up a Nikon ZF.
Ahah one way to do it
😂
Lol I was thinking of doing the same
Pov: ur rich af 😢
Good choice
I noticed while you are talking, the af was pulsing especially when you move your hands, are you using x-t5 to film youself?
I filmed myself with the XH2S. I will make a video about video AF soon as well with the XH2S
The problem with fuji is that their AF "updates" are always lack-luster or minimal improvement at best. They still always seem to be three steps behind everyone else, there is always some settings gymnastics you gotta do to get a decent results. How Fuji can never get this right is astounding to me, heck even Nikon quickly surpassed fuji's AF in less time.
For studio portraits, the Fuji system is great. Single point and single frame photos, work great. The continuous auto focus is plain trash. The worst part is the false positive and occasional pulsing.
Yeah AF-S works fine but a shame that false positives happen
I updated to 4.0 and the AF for photos has been been so bad. Just not acceptable. Can I reset to factory settings. Will it take me back to the original firmware which was better ?
I am no expert, but a shutter speed of 125 would seem too slow to not blur if someone is walking. Also, 1.4 is a tiny DOF to expect for face focus.
Agree the shutter speed needs to be closer to 500 for subject walking towards camera.
1.4 is low only for Fuji that's the point. Others brands will catch it.
its now shallow enough for my a6400 and a5100 , i can still track f1.4 the same
I'm using X-T5 for weddings and event and have never had any issues with focus. Maybe because i don't know how quick and on spot other cams like Sony are when it comes to focus but for me, my X-T5 and my prime lenses works good and keep my clients smiling.
This is the difference between real photographers and RUclips photographers
Are you saying RUclips photographers aren’t real photographers and that’s why it’s an issue?
@@ChillHopChimp I'm saying that real photographers don't have time to look for scenarios where the autofocus isn't 100 percent accurate. I took photos when cameras didn't even have autofocus and oh surprise, even then the photos were mostly sharp. It is more important to understand how a camera works and to use this knowledge for good results than to create clickbait on RUclips.
I had the XH2s on release, liked the camera and the fuji ecosystem. I sold it and went GFX 100S. I just recently sold my GFX and started shooting with an Canon R3. I love the autofocus out of the canon, the system is just HUGE (when RF glass is added). I have been debating going back to the XH2s. Do you feel that the autofocus has gotten worse since the release of the XH2s?
The AF of the previous firmware was an exception. Yes it did make things worse but it does not mean that it keeps getting worse. There are definitely improvements that I notice while shooting more with it
Even with it's not-so=perfect AFC tracking, I still would keep my Fujifilm X-T5. Fujifilm still has the best colours, ergonomics, film sims, and they're cameras that I just enjoy using.
I hardly use AFC tracking mode as most of my photos are street or landscape, but when I have (for taking pictures of my family or cars), I've had very pleasing results. I'd estimate that 95% of my pictures using subject tracking (cars) have been in correct focus, with maybe 90% using eyeAF for kids running around in correct focus. I should add that I've only had my camera for 2 months now so I cannot speak for how good/bad the AF was before.
I understand that some would jump ship to Nikon or Sony because they need that reliability for their professional work etc, but for me personally, this is not enough for me to get to that stage.
The X-T5 is still a great camera that I have a FUN time using, whereas when I had my Nikon DSLR I just wasn't as inspired to go out an shoot.
For me, photography is way more than just this AFC issue.
I enjoy using it too. But this is getting worse and worse, Fuji needs to get their AF fixed. It’s been a problem for way too long
I typically use spot focus, but how does it compare against v1 firmware? Pal2tech seemed to agree with quick testing that the autofocus has improved vs v1.
After the firmware 4.00, in video mode im having pulsing issue with both fuji 35mm f2 and 23mm f2 lenses. With area af, in af-c... the focus goes in-out and sometimes completely out of focus. In video af is not reliable.
In the next video I will test out more the video aspect
I really wish there were not so much brand bashing on RUclips comments. It's is such a waste of time. Fuji's AF needs work. We know this. I appreciate your report Thierry on how it works for you on your X-T5. Thanks for your hard work on this channel and thanks to those who post productive comments. Life's short. You get what you put out there.
Thank you 🙏
Indeed… also because some of these “reviewers” are totally clueless as to how Fuji af works, in conjunction with subject detection, and setting the camera on full manual… potentially (likely) choking it on trying to expose for the detected eye/face, because they are ablivious to the fact, stated very clearly in the Fuji manuals, that exposure on face and eye detection is set to expose the subject correctly…
@@mortenthorpe fuji doesnt get special treatment when ALL other brands does af properly even in their entry level 800$ camera from 2018
@@JJARCHIEthis has nothing to do with fuji per-se or “doing AF properly”… it has to do with the fact that many youtubers with videos about how bad fuji autofocus is: 1. Are exaggerating, 2. Haven’t even done due diligence as how to setup and use Fujis AF…! Could it be different? surely. could it be simpler ? Most likely - OMD just simplified their much more cumbersome AF settings in theory newest flagship OMD camera, Fuji could follow suit - but at the cost of flexibility? Maybe, not necessarily- who knows…
@@Mortenthorpe-DK never seen anyone complain how "simple" the sony af system is. You know why ? BECAUSE IT WORKS.
How the hell did an xs20 with the 33 1.4 LM lost out against my old old a5100
If someone really is in need of a perfect AF, do not pic Fujifilm. Nevertheless I like my XT-5 because I do not need a perfect AF and I see no alternative on the camera market which I could afford.
Oh Fujifilm is enough for my needs, but the previous firmware did introduce some issues that made it a BIG problem. Now it is back to good enough 👍
You make a good point - Yes, there are better-focussing cameras out there, but they are substantially more expensive than the fuji x series.
I didn't notice any improvement between last and new update. That's really bad
These cameras should never have come to market without having been fixed. It's disgusting that Fujifilm continues to release half baked products for its users to beta test. All that said, yes, I still use 2 fuji cameras in my workflow but I am definitely looking for other options given the attitude of the company. The really embarrassing part is that the Sony A73 (from 2018) has less false positives than the XH2s, my bad for assuming it would be the other way around given a 5 year difference in age.
The previous firmware was the issue, the cameras themselves are good IMO but yeah the se issues were very apparent recently
6 years...
@@ThierryGibralta My comment is on my shoots after the firmware update. It seems they still have a bunch of work to get to a point where they can match their competition's 5/6 year old cameras. I just want them to be doing better in that respect because I enjoy shooting with their products. Make sure to check your results on the 33mm as well, the firmware struggles much more which makes sense because it's tighter. In the end it's about the results, I still get them but would probably have more deliverables with better autofocus in general (or better yet, I'd be able to use continuous).
@@ThierryGibralta Dont pamper Fuji with your takes......it is not enough until they came up with a revulotionary autofocus capability to their cameras. Previously, we were making this same statements that they are fine, and guess what, here we are.
The Sony A6000 from 2014 had way less focus misses in continuous mode. So disappointed in the X-T5, even after the 4.0 update. Returning the camera.
Great video thanks for testing and bringing out the issues - i think that is a very good thing to speak out as a creator and shwo wich problems are we facing with some FWU.
Interesting to read these comments. I shoot headshots multiple times a month with XH2 on AF-C and my hit rate is high. Maybe 3 out of 600 shots are out of focus. And I alternate between 56mm and 33mm.
I am also surprised by the comments 😮
Did not make this to hate on the system but it seems like a lot of people do. I still can do good work with Fuji in my portrait sessions as well, definitely not as high hit rates as I shoot outside but not as bad as what I read.
@@ThierryGibralta Most of the people who seem to be haters are not. In fact they don’t want to switch to any other system. This is about Fuji ignorance and silence about evident issues with their AFC. This is not acceptable at all and that makes people sometimes overreacting but Fuji deserves it.
I also think that a lot of comments come from people who don’t own a Fuji either 🤔
Same for the X-H2S, I returned mine to B&H, I just think for the price it should auto focus better. Keeping my X-T2, and X-E1 because I really enjoy the colors, but I'm disappointed because I should birds and wildlife and the X-H2s was mediocre. Now I see all of these RUclips creators are doing a hack to go back to old firmware on the X-H2S, this is crazy, Fuji get your act together!
I didn't upgrade since 2.10 and still fine with the AF except AF-S for wide angle lenses
I got rid of my XS20 solely bc of the auto focus. If it wasn't for that it would have been one of my favorite cameras. I considered the XH2 because of the bigger body and more buttons, but I can expect the AF to be just as bad. Unfortunately it looks like we're going to have to wait for a complete new generation of Fuji cameras to fix this. These FW updates aren't doing a thing to improve it. Now that I'm shooting the A6700 I have not had 1 issue with AF. Images are also sharper, that is well known about Sony. Colors aren't as good and neither is stabilization, but I'm okay with that. It's just a tiny bit more work in post.
Fujifilm said :
With this version we are not aware of any further problems.
Everybody had to complain by Fujifilm
How does it compare with Sony A6700 and ZVE10?
I eon’t have those at the moment but from my experience shooting with them before, they still have better AF
@@ThierryGibralta 😀thanks!
Not even close to a A6400 🤦🏾 Single point focus is your best friend on Fujifilm and if that's ok with you then you'll be fine. And if that's the way you're going arguably it's best to buy one of the older bodies and spend your money on glass. It isn't worth buying the newer bodies until Fujifilm has sorted their continuous autofocus, you would just be buying half the functionality of a device at full price.
It's like comparing Carola to Tesla.
I recently tried to put the XF 150-600 through its paces by shooting some vultures (almost 3 meters wide, not exactly small targets), I think the AF hit rate was below 10%. At this point you really wonder why they even bother selling wildlife lenses. It was before the firmware update though. I’ll give it another try soon, but it really made me consider switching to another brand.
Thank you for your effort and time!
I fixed it by getting the R6MII. Too bad i needed reliable tracking for action, otherwise love Fuji.
Thanks for testing man! I can confirm that the false positives are also present in bird tracking, although I have not tested the latest firmware.
Thanks for the info! Good to know.
i am planning a holiday in tanzania and Zanzibar in september. i need reliable autofocus by then.
if Fuji doesn't give us a fix til then, i will also downgrade my firmware. what good is reala ace if the fotos are put of focus?
shame on fuji, its just frustrating and tiring. again and again.
Tnx for the vid 👍🏼
You should have tested V2.10 vs. V4.00 not a bad version vs. a slightly different one. I have better results on V2.10 compared to V4
I mean…most people upgraded to v3 and the video was meant to check if those problems were fixed.
The two disastrous updates were an embarrassment. Like most, I experienced the problems as described here, alongside a major bug… basically, the camera (X-T5) would freeze, forcing me to eject the battery and place it back in a few seconds later… unacceptable! The next day the update that was supposed to fix the problems with the previous updates, seemingly made thinks worse. Not on the AF issues and camera freeze, but shutting down the camera altogether. Re-signed to the fact that I was likely going to have to ship it off to Fuji (out of warranty) and pay whatever outrageous price for the repairs, I took it to my camera store where I purchased it some two years ago, and to my amazement, they re-updated the update so-to-speak and viola, she is performing as new. The big takeaway for me anyway, buy your rigs, and lenses from an actual store, not Amazon or the like, yeah you might save a few $$, but a store whom you trust and have been doing business with (for me, 30 years) is invaluable. I potentially saved $300+ and being without my workhorse camera for weeks, all it cost was $60.00 plush a cleaning and check.
So I’m confused. Did they reinstall the current firmware or the old firmware?
5 tips
1 pick one eye ..it works better
2 choose sensitivity 3
3 choose right lenses ..linear motor lenses
4 use shutter speeds that are slightly higher than normal
5 make sure your sensor and lenses are clean
I've tested it extensively.And I've shot weddings with it.And I get a better 90%.Hit riate and i'm pretty happy with that.
I would not say 90% but yeah I still can work with it. The previous firmware though did include some issues
@@ThierryGibralta pick 1 eye 👁... That way , it's not jumping and looking for another eye
If a camera allows you to use certain features, those features should work as intended. If they don’t, it’s the camera’s problem, not the user. Stop blaming the user.
@@RandumbTech Two things can be true at the same time: AFC sucks but you can improve or mitigate the issues through picking better settings.
6 swich to manual focus
Fujifilm have everything, what they need is autofocus..................cant they see. It marvels me. I am even shocked.
I went to an arboretum the other day to photograph flowers. I had the X-T5 in AF-S mode since I didn’t have a moving subject. The camera would not focus properly within the AF box. What the heck, the latest firmware update now has compromised shooting of still photography. It’s the first time I’ve had a problem with the X-T5 having focusing issues in AF-S mode. These weren’t even “false positives” images. The camera’s autofocus wouldn’t even give me a green box AF confirmation when focusing on a single, subject flower. I noticed that my focusing box was placed directly on the flower while the camera focused on the background space. Recomposing the scene and half pressing the focusing/shutter release button did not help.
not within minimum focus distance maybe?
Negative. I was well within the minimum focusing distance. It felt like the camera wasn’t even trying to acquire focus from the green focusing box. Soon after, my camera completely froze with a black out screen. I took out the battery to reset camera. Focusing seemed OK after that. I suspecting bugs in the new update.
Good news! I just took my camera to Venice Beach and did some street photography using the X-T5 in continuous auto focus mode at the skateboard park. The camera worked flawlessly with the tracking of the moving subject and acquiring focus quickly. I was impressed with the speed of the camera to re-acquire my subject even after the skateboarder left my field of view at the bottom of a pool and reappearing into the field of view back at the top of the pool lip. I need to examine the sharpness of focus within Capture One. I believe 1/1,800 of a second will be ample enough to handle the motion blur. I was highly impressed! I generally do more single shot auto focus with recomposing my scene with using focus lock.
They will never fix very bad afc. What is funny, they tried with previous and many other fws in past, but it brought a lot of issues, so they just rolled it back and that’s it. It is broken from beginning!
I watched a video from @Iamtongue where he testet the FWU 1.0 to 2.01 for the X-T5 and the FWU 3.0 to 5.01 on the X-H2s it look pretty pretty nice to me equal to some Canons/Sonys/Nikons. At some point they brought in some issues wich they need to fix and they will do that. This update fixed some issues for sure... but they have to do more.
I'll save everyone 8 minutes. The answer is no.
Keep watching for details.
Don’t need to watch this ! The answer is no. Fuji are clueless with respect to AF ! Which is very frustrating as a Fuji owner
I downgraded xh2s to q
1.03 per @advard and Fuji is on the clock for firmware 8.0 cause this "new" update still sucks
I do love Fujifilm camera but I hate thieir autofocus
The firmware 4.1 will give a better af 🤭😉
Imagine if Fuji would let us downgrade…
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Today I send an email to Fujifilm and they are not aware of this issue
Everybody has to send emails to fujifilm, hope this will help
The real tests are those that are done in the real world under normal circumstances and not contrived or trying to do something you wouldn’t normally photograph.
For me most of my stuff is single focus and zone focus street photography and most of the time I have no issues.
But you do have to use the new linear motors and the newer lenses to get this kind of quality. Or you have to use limit focus, like I do on the 56 1.2 when upgrading to the newer version, which surprisingly gives me much better accuracy Overall.
I’m not doing sports or fashion photography so I don’t really use the continuous focus.
Forgot to mention that I used the 18mm for this test. I haven’t checked with the 56 yet but will do. The only issue is that it is hard to reproduce non “controlled” tests. I agree with you, that is what matters most though.
Cheers!
totally agree, I use the camera in this way myself. I don't have any issues, but I don't use cf very often. Pal2tech did a test just after the release, and he said it was OK, but I'm sure it's going to be use case specific. It also shows ai is not always perfect.
Why after all these years can’t they just copy Sony’s system?
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why would you buy a new fuji knowing that they have never ever got the autofocus sorted. this pipe dream of firmware fixes belies how their false marketing and reliance of our fondness of their color science is effective in convincing people a fix is just around the corner. fuji - your camera bodies, build quality and colors are great but your autofocus is the worst of any major camera manufacturer and you should give everyone back their money. just blatant lying and untrustworthy utube reviews. testing one in a camera store means nothing - all the tracking and hits are mostly false so unless you checkout your memory card at home DONT get sucked in
I've come to the conclusion that a lot of commenters are probably the same camera users who disparrage those who shoot in AUTO, but still expect the camera to do everything for them:
Maybe a spell using a film SLR would make them realise just how much of the old skills have been lost, and how much easier it's all going to be as AI takes over.
Fujifilm should give themselves a year and fix their autofcus and also stop releasing newer cameras. FUJIFILM, WHAT A JOKE OF A COMPANY.
Fujifilm are just ok for street photography and that’s it
I do product photography with Fuji cameras and it certainly does that easier than street photography where autofocus needs to be more quick and precise usually.
I fixed my Fujifilm issues by getting a Leica Q3
On a Leica Q3 the AFC is even worse😂
It is great AF if you take the pictures of ded people.
no, you can easily get false positives even in that scenario. or the AF will latch onto something obscure in the background and not budge from it...
The autofocus is better than your spelling.