I love that, yes, we're on a journey watching Doctor Who with Shayla but also figuring out what's her outro, it's like that one sidequest you never do but you keep seeing it on your quest list.
Clara: "So you were pretending to be heartless". The Doctor: "Would you like to think that about me? Would that make it easier? I didn’t know if I could save her. I couldn’t save Quell, I couldn’t save Moorhouse. There was a good chance that she’d die too. Sometimes the only choices you have are bad ones. But you still have to choose".
wow i love that every motoe reactor has this commented.... at least the women ones. i'm glad this is here! i love this fact, everyone must know it lmao
I find s8 gets a lot better with every rewatch as you notice all the subtle character development for every character. It's dark and it's messy but it's super complex and I love it
Fun fact! Frank Skinner (who is a famous comedian in the UK) who plays Perkins the Train Engineer is actually a massive fan of the show and he said in an interview the hardest part about filming this was having to turn down an opportunity to travel with the Doctor at the end. He really wanted to say yes!
Honestly the whole thing with 12 not seeming to care about people dying is a bit misunderstood. It's not that he doesn't care, it's that he knows if he got distracted by his feelings or the stressfulness of the situation, he wouldn't be able to protect the people who were still alive and prevent them from dying too. So it seems heartless, but in reality, he's just not good with emotions and wants to stop any more people from dying. 12 is very emotionally guarded after how much emotional turmoil he went through as 11, so he can come off as cold. When actually he's just the same emotional bumbling mess that 11 is, he just doesn't like to show it jksdhfasj also when the Doctor is like "Can I talk about the planets now" it's not that he doesn't like emotion, it's just that what Clara is saying is making him well up and get really emotional, which he doesn't know how to deal with.
The writing on the 12th doctor's run was hit and miss(much like the others), but he had a lot more misses. However when he was a hit he was a really big hit.
"He cares so much, I don't know why he's so dismissive and moves on so quickly when other people die..." Oh yeah! Wonder if we'll ever find out why.... **pulls over some popcorn to watch current reaction**
The chemistry between Capaldi & Coleman is both complicated and magic, both dark and reaffirming. I think Many disliked this season because they could not Forgive either character for their darker impulses. But I think this is what gave them complexity, made them human and ultimately redeemable.
Dude...I am SO glad you like Peter!!!! I am ashamed to say that I was worried you wouldn't "get" him. He is my favorite of the new doctors, and I'm so stoked to watch you experience this awesome adventure in the tardis with grumpy #12 :)
One thing I've noticed is that a Doctor's incarnation is heavily influenced by the last scenes and monologue the previous incarnation had before their death. When Matt's Doctor died he was kind in an old, crotchety headspace and that's how Peter's starts.
You're absolutely right. The Doctor is an asshole in Series 8. He's shaped by his recent experiences, returning to the Time War in Day of the Doctor and being stuck on Trenzalore in Time of the Doctor. That's what makes his journey into peak Doctor-hood so great!
Asshole is a lil harsh isn't it? I guess it's just me but I never saw him that way. Yea it was a curmudgeon (can't believe I spelled that right on the first go lol) I just don't know if I'd go so far as to say asshole. All that to ask what was it that made it assholeish behavior?
I look at his series 8 personality in the same way. As the 11th, the Doctor was hunted down, assassinated and then went to war for hundreds of hears all because of who he was. That probably does make one a bit of a grouch for a while!
One of the interesting things about series 8 for me is that it makes us (well, me anyway ;) ask the question "What is an arsehole ?". Is 12 one because he doesn't lie and sugarcoat his responses ? Honesty's a good quality though right (or maybe only when we're being told what we want to hear) ? Are we arseholes when we read some horrendous story about people dying around the world from one cause or another, then just breeze past it and get on with our day ?
I'm with you about Danny. I never saw the attraction between the two. Yea, I know, just actors but they don't have the right chemistry. I'm also with you one Peter - at first I was hoping he would be as good a choice as I hoped and over time, he just became my favorite. He's a heck of an actor and I loved watching him. And this is definitely one of my top 5 episodes. It really gives you an idea of what makes the 12th Doctor. He does care about each life but he must do what needs to be done to save the rest. He has a hard job, maybe Matts Doctor made his choices seem easier. But Peter's Doctor is just so complex and so is his relationship with Clara.
Twelve and Clara’s relationship is so great and honestly, to me, Twelve is Clara’s Doctor - Eleven and her were great together but he had Amy and Rory. Twelve started his regeneration off with her, so I think their chemistry is really solid. Clara’s character arc really blossoms with Twelve and I love it.
The way Steven Moffat put it is that 12 is less "user-friendly" than 10 & 11. In fact, there was a rumour going around that the idea behind the scenes is that he *is* the Doctor. Shakespeare talked about the 10th Doctor's "constant performance", and the Dream Lord" had a dig about how false 11's "tawdry quirks" were. 12, if the rumour is true, is supposed to be the actual person, stripped of all the pretending he does to make himself more palatable to the humans around him. 10 & 11 were the Time Lord playing the role of "the Doctor". 12 *is* just the Time Lord, not playing any kind of role.
The way I look at this episode is the Doctor isn't actually heartless. He had to act and talk that way, so Gus wouldn't realize what he was doing and try to stop him. He actually does care about what happens to everyone.
Also, he only had 66 seconds to play with. Maybe Five would spend half of that agonizing over the latest victim, but Twelve ain't got time for that shit. I love that they didn't back away from that.
You who so love soundtracks: that majestic music playing in the final scene between the Doctor and Clara is Twelve's theme, "A Good Man". It's absolutely fantastic and I've had it stuck in my head for the past year or two
"Sometimes all you have are bad choices. But you still have to choose. " Such a simple statement that says so VERY much about life. It's one of my favorite Doctor quotes.
You hit on a big part of why I find series 8-9 so satisfying: the complexity. The way the characters are written, in terms of their psychology and how it drives their actions and conflicts between each other and within themselves, is just next-level in comparison to what we normally see on this show. We're actually seeing real drama, with something like a literary ambition, in a show that normally settles for melodrama. And for some people, it's just... not what they're there to see. They want people to act in a mechanical way that makes plots move forward. But I'm here for the psychology and the subtext and the deeper discussion about life. And boy howdy, I find this particular run of episodes an inspiration-especially after the fairly minimal psychology of the first half of Moffat's era, which was largely about performative cleverness. Here, a lot of that is stamped down. The show is often still very clever, sometimes ostentatiously so, but it's usually in aid of saying something more. And, it just feels like Steven Moffat found his real steam here as a mature artist, less intent on showing off than in exploring things that meant something to him, personally. And man, it's so sincere and vulnerable as a result. It's imperfect, but it tries. It's got something it's motivated to talk about. Again, not what everyone wants from a show, particularly a show that's been going on for over 50 years and has never much done this before. But it does it for me. (As I think I said in an earlier comment, his new writing team really really helps here too. Best regular stable the show's ever had, so far I'm concerned.)
Yeah, all this except I don't discount Moff's earlier stuff for Matt Smith. Plenty of complexity there, but none of the messiness we get to wallow in here. Not better or worse but very different, I say. Now..... contrast this with Jodie Whittaker's first season. I love Jodie and the gang to bits, but the sudden simplicity in the plotting and characterization gave me whiplash after this stuff. I don't hate the new stuff at all, but I find I can do other things while watching the latest season and not miss anything whereas I needed to pin my eyelids open to catch everything in a typical Moff episode. Shame Chibnall has downshifted like this, I think his cast can deal with stuff as challenging as this but I guess we're not going to get it. :(
According to Jenna Coleman, in her mind, when doing the final scene, and delivering the lines on the phone, when she said, "I love you," if you notice she's looking straight at the Doctor, because in her mind she wasn't saying it to Danny on the phone, she was saying it to the Doctor. That's how she chose to play it.
@David Blyth for the doctor yes I'd say he is a dark character not really caring about humans is quite dark for the doctor, to me series 10 is when most of that aspect is gone
This Doctor is more pragmatic on the surface which makes him come across as cold and distant even though he does care deep down but you’ll definitely see him change which will allow more of the kindness of the character to come to the surface . His relationship with Clara is complex and messy ..it affects her in a more negative manner then other companions which I find interesting and you will see as you watch more . Anyway , this is one of my favorite episodes of a season I consider to be the weakest of 12’s run.
I’m so glad you’re digging the character development too. Clara mostly gets flack for her flaws but that’s what makes her relationship with 12 so compelling, that they bring out the best and worst in each other. It’s a risky move for a companion because all the others (whom I love) were kind of designed to be universally likeable. I get that it backfires for some and they don’t like Clara but I think it’s so great
The Caretaker episode is the most messy, wonderful, awkward episode in the messy, wonderful, awkward season that is Series 8. :) And thanks for the recap on the non-reacting episodes!
Classic series related notes for this episode: The old lady who dies in the beginning (Mrs. Pitt) was played by Janet Henfrey who last appeared in Doctor Who back in the final season of the original series in 1989, playing "Mrs. Hardaker" in the wonderful 7th Doctor story "The Curse of Fenric". Both this story and Fenric involve creatures based on classic Monster movie villians. A Mummy here and Vampiric "Haemovores" in Fenric. The other thing I wanted to note is that the 12th Doctor is wearing a 1st Doctor style tie in this episode, which I think is a nice throwback.
The word you are looking for Doctor 12 is "distant". He does care, but as this episode and the Dalek one shows he does not bother with being nice about those about to die. He does want your death to count and to be remembered.
I really liked your reaction to the "are you my mummy?" line. :D I totally get what you meant at the end when you called this a normal episode. That's what's so surprising about this and the next episode; they're the usual "monster-of-the-week" Doctor Who episodes but it feels like there's more happening in them than usual (at least in my opinion). They're clever and creative. I am 100% on board with "peace out, girl scouts" coming back and it made me smile to hear it again. :) I'd vote for it to be the new permanent outro if I didn't enjoy seeing you come up with different ones each time.
11 is the lost little boy who ran away, who you occasionally see the weight of the ancient soul inside. 12 is the ancient soul carrying the weight of all he's lost, who you occasionally see the lost little boy inside.
Very fun fact: Jenna Coleman (clara) confirmed in a con panel or interview or something (don't remember the source sorry,) that when she says "I love you" over the phone she looks directly at the Doctor while she says it love that
i have a tumblr version (if you don't mind) - silenceofheaven.tumblr.com/post/183968571855/throughyourblindness-me! also this is really cute - silenceofheaven.tumblr.com/post/183968602285/x. (there is no spoilers)
Fantastic episode. This episode finally shows why the twelfth Doctor is the way he is. You're in the majority with Danny. Also, while Rose is a divisive character, she isn't actually THAT divisive. She mostly gets a lot of hate from sections of the hardcore fandom. On the other hand, Rose is the most popular companion with the casual/mainstream audience alongside Sarah Jane. Clara is by far the most divisive companion you've met at this point.
@@tomitankengine Donna is the most popular with the hardcore fandom. I'm talking about the wider, more casual/mainstream audience. Although, Donna is certainly up there too.
@@SuperSanity1 I thought Rose's coming of age story was very interesting, especially as they didn't shy away from showing the other side of it with how her decisions affected her loved ones. I also liked the love story between Rose and the Doctor because it questioned whether or not it's a good idea for the Doctor to get that close to a human. You can dislike Rose all you want, but she was anything, but uinteresting.
@@Mrazmatmahmood She was interesting to you. That doesn't mean she was interesting to me. I'm not trying to convince you she isn't, so don't try to convince me she is. It won't work.
I always hated how she lied about Danny's involvement in her decision. "It was his idea we stopped." Um... no. That was hers; he just supported whatever decision she chose.
Electroshock Therapy for the Soul that’s the beginning of Clara’s downfall. It’s a great character beat. She succumbs to the first rule of being the Doctor - you lie.
I liked it personally. Clara isn't presented as some cookie-cutter paragon of virtue, she's a rounded human being with flaws. Much more interesting IMO.
Yeah. NewWho companions have always been written as sympathetic and fun. Clara was allowed to be difficult and morally questionable. She was even allowed to be unlikeable sometimes. That's brave of Doctor Who, and a huge step forward.
@@anonymes2884 I agree. I like her okay enough with Eleven, but I actually began to get invested in her character because she started revealing her (many) faults to Twelve. Still, putting the blame on someone else was really cheap.
You know this already by now because you're into Season 9, but the Doctor is having a crisis of confidence all the way through Season 8. He doesn't know whether he's a good man, and he's scarred from a thousand years on Trenzalore. I think the first time we see his settled character is Last Christmas.
Did you happen to catch the "Are you my mummy?" phrase the Doctor said? A bit of a nod to season 1's The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances 2 parter. The 10th Doctor also said it when he was wearing a gas mask in season 4's The Sontaran Stratagem/The Poison Sky
This episode explained a lot. Clara only saw the outward appearance of 11 with 12 she slowly is seeing the doctor. The beach scene is an important moment because it shows he is about saving people but sometimes their are only hard choices but he still needs to choose.
A vulcan would say the needs of the many out way the needs of the few or the one. The Doctor seems to think the same thing ... he just has no patience for fools when lives are on the line.
I always felt that the 12th Doctor is the most emotional doctor out of them all. He's like an exposed nerve; the depth of his care doesn't change what changes is what he allows you to see; it is the doctor after being trapped for 1000 years on Trenzalore, It is him after having to convince his Clara who has been with him since the start of his journey through time and space to stay with him because he is so scared right from the get-go in Deep Breath. 12 just lets you see beyond all the human antics that the previous incarnations had put on to disguise the Doctor's trauma after the time war and straight into the Doctor's dark and alien nature.
If you rewatch the Time Heist episode, there is a moment after he dismissed one of the gang who accused him of being detached. A look appeared on his face while his back was turned. A moment of vulnerability before focusing on the task at hand. The Doctor does care, more than he is willing to admit. But there are times he feels he has to put up a cold front to get the job done. Like in this episode. I like Danny. Not as much as Rory. But he's a good character and an effective way to keep Clara tied to life outside of space-time traveling. There hasn't been much of that since Amy and Rory left the show.
It's not that he doesn't care, but once someone has died, they're dead, they can't undo that, so what matters then is saving the people that are left. It's not a dismiss of human life, it's an attempt to save everyone who still has a chance
I loved this episode! Are you my mummy? Great reaction; well done. I've watched Dr Who since I was a kid living in England. Lacking human social skills is a common thread in all the Doctors, but I've loved them all.
I agree about how the Doctor seems rather heartless at first, but he does become more compassionate as time goes on. As Peter becomes more familiar and comfortable with the character, you will see this.
He reminds you of 9? I wonder why? 9 came off the back of a life spent fighting a war for hundreds of years. 12 has just done the same. I think there may be a connection. :)
Lol your opening statement is literally the understatement of the year, and it's my favorite thing about him xD lolol. He's loved the caretaker concept. I generally love when the doctor tries to blend in with humanity really badly. - time heist is one of my favorite episodes, so I'm a bit sad to miss that one.
I cant believe you cut your reaction to that beautiful and important character moment between 12 and clara on the beach :( i think thats the first time i have seen a reaction to this episode without that scene included
Same, that's what I waiting for, especially how she reacted to the Doctor being seemingly so dismissive and even callous. How he asks her if him being heartless would make it easier and how he explains he has to keep on track and not get distracted by his emotions so that more people can survive
lagnok I edited this one a while back so I can’t remember exactly why I cut it. 99% of the time it’s because I am trying to keep my reactions under 10 minutes. That is a very good possibility of why the scene got cut. I do try to get every “reactiony” moment that I have in each video. Don’t worry tho, a lot of fun upcoming stuff in my reactions with Clara and the Doctor.
Me too :(. Especially because that scene was almost like a direct response to her opening musings about the doctor, about how he seems dismissive etc. He essentially explains himself in that scene, because Clara had those same questions/thoughts! It's so odd to me that it was skipped and not discussed, when it would have been a continuation of the intro discussion...I'm bummed but at the same time I'm really happy she appreciates 12 and Clara's complex relationship. So many hate on Clara (or, to put it better, a loud minority on the internet hate on Clara) because they don't even try to understand her perspective or her dynamic with 12, they think it's unforgivable for a companion to call out the Doctor on his behavior (refuse point blank to think he is in the wrong ever), to have her own thoughts, etc., which is just utter bs. Those things are what make 12 and Clara so interesting and fascinating as individuals/characters, and it's why their relationship is so compelling, why they clash and spark but also come together in important ways.
I love hearing your thoughts on shows so good and I argee with a lot of what you said here and to see why he is this way and also your outros are some of my favorite on RUclips
up until this point we know the doctor does care, but he has a hard way of showing it. i thinks it’s in ‘flatline’ where the doctor sees himself through clara that makes him realise how cold he can be, and from then on he does start to change in a very good way also, really loving these reactions! i feel like i’m watching myself react to episodes when they first aired
Clara has an addiction just like the doctor. She wants to do what he does cause deep down they're really alike :) You could say they're almost...equals.
I love this Doctor's disconnect from people's feelings he's far more realistic in how he doesn't give false promises that everyone is going to survive he tells you straight on "Your probably going to die."
I think what you enjoyed about that final scene is what people hated about Clara. I think lots of people hated the distrust and character personality changes.
As I said before, a fast Regeneration cause problems for the Doctor. His honesty is a good example. for instance he could say you will be dead in 10 minutes. He misses out Unless I can save you. This Episode was a good example. In the beginning the Doctor thought there were lots of People on the Train. Just one Person was being killed so asked them for Information on what they could see so he could come up with the answer and save the rest. The reason he was saying the bad things was told at the end which you missed out. He knew they were being watched so he had to appear that way so as not to give the game away. I thought you would have mentioned the Queen song, 'Don't stop me now', being sung on the Train.
12:54 The moment he's talking about when he says " he even phone called in.the tardis " is right after rory's and amy's wedding at the end of season 5. The " are you my mummy " is also a reference to the empty child episodein season 1 ( with captain jack 🙂 ) Btw this episode did the job since you kinda reacted just like expected about the Doctor's detached behavior and the reasons why he acts like this 🤗
Tom Baker was the 4th doctor who and what made him so legendary was the fact he was dr who for 7 whole years because he had love for dr who like no other and because his viewers would tune in every Saturday morning just to see Tom Baker shayla you should definitely do CLASSIC WHO REACTIONS!
I’d like to point out to you, what you said about Capaldi’s Doctor and his attitude. Is that his Doctor harkens back to more of the “classic Doctor Who” Doctors. As someone who is watching a lot of classic Who right now. I can tell you, the Doctor used to be a lot sharper around the edges while still being the hero The Doctor is.
my favourite lines in this episode were with that beach scene: CLARA: Blew up the train? DOCTOR: Blew up the train. But we got away. Then I dropped everyone off at the nearest civilised planet, which happened to be here. DOCTOR: You seemed happy asleep so I just left you. CLARA: So you saved everyone. DOCTOR: No, I just saved you and I let everyone else suffocate. Ha, ha, ha. CLARA: Hmm. DOCTOR: Yeah, this is just my cover story.
It took the 12th Doctor for me to truly warm up to Clara. I've always thought that the actress was brilliant, but I didn't care for her storyline with 11, and their relationship just didn't work for me. But Clara and 12... oh man, I love them so much. Their relationship is so complicated and interesting and the actors have the best chemistry. And they just get better and better together. They're truly one of my favorite parts of Doctor Who as a whole, period. You're in for some great stuff! And amazing reaction as always, you're a joy to rewatch this wonderful show with!
There are so many episodes that I would recommend to watch in Series 9, but my personal favourites are 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,10,11 and 12(for reaction purposes) it would be great to see reactions to them, even if it meant spreading out the time it takes you to watch the show, but I understand completely if you would prefer to get through the season at your own pace and without the pressure of making reactions to all of them. Be kind to yourself :-)
@@JustSoShayla Make sure that you look after yourself first and foremost!!😀 Plus i hope that you like episodes 3 and 4 as they are my faves after 10 and 11
Little info after the ep BIG BANG with Amy and Rory wedding then the doctor got the call to go one invite, remember, Egyptian princess and mummy on the orien express, and did u pick up the line from the doctor dances ARE YOU MY MUMMY!! = gas mask zombies
You’re right about Danny, in fact whilst listening to this I also went “Ehhhh” as you did. The issue isn’t that he’s a bad character, the writers have just treated more like a plot device to advance Clara’s character instead of his own personality.
Can't really talk about Danny fully yet. Spoilers, etc. I don't think he was written badly. Moff didn't want to repeat Rory, he did something different with Danny that hadn't been done with a companion's significant other before.
I don't quite know how her current system will work with series 9 since most stories are two parters. Honestly, as much as I don't like that series (it's really only because of the finale in retrospect), she probably should react to every episode. Except for one. You know, THAT one.
Season 9 is one of my most favorite seasons too, but I don't think every episode is react-worthy! Always just 1 of the two parters imo, although nothing beats heaven sent of course...
@@Mrazmatmahmood give hell bent another chance! I beg you, seriously! As long as you KNOW, what is going to happen, and ignore what you WISHED, would have happened instead, this episode is just absolutely beautiful. And for what it does for the Doctor and Clara plus its beautiful cinematography, score and poetic dialogue, it will always have a special place in my heart. ...
@@chanceneck8072 I've tried to like Hell Bent, but what it does to the character of the Doctor is unforgivable. There's many other things I don't like, but if I went in to detail we'd be getting into spoiler territory. I'll post my thoughts on the episode, when Shayla gets there.
@@Mrazmatmahmood "what it does to the character of the Doctor is unforgivable" ****[SPOILERS FOR S9 AHEAD. Please don't read if you haven't watched!]**** It's almost like the Doctor didn't go through a physically, emotionally and psychologically traumatic experience that lasted billions of years, with only the thought of saving Clara getting him through it. You think, coming out of THAT, that anything would stop him from saving Clara, even going against his own moral code? Wow, to think you like your heroes THAT predictable, no flaws or raw impulses. How boring, how uninteresting and anticlimactic, after thousands upon thousands of lifetimes in hell, would it have been if it became just another "he would never" typical Doctor moment. "Do you really think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?" It's the same powerful emotion, the same devotion and love ("love is a promise") that made him punch a wall for eternity, and forced him to go against his own morals. It's ridiculous that any one who truly understood that would find his actions "unforgivable" and utterly against his character. If anything, it makes the Doctor more compelling than ever.
I hope you saw my comment from the last video. But what I said is that the 12th Doctor is afraid to care this time around because every time he cares he loses people. He’s tired of losing people and he’s afraid that it’s all his fault that people die. So he is the Doctor now reflecting on everything he’s done and everything he’s lost... so he’s not being a jerk to be a jerk, he’s pretending to be a jerk to not face the fear within him that he’s “not a good man”... ironically his fear is causing him to be what he’s afraid of... I mean he did lose a lot... you skipped the conversation in the reaction but When he says “sometimes you only have bad choices but you still have to choose.“ That’s him clarifying to Clara and to us the audience that He isn’t trying to be careless. It isn’t that he doesn’t care about their lives. Sometimes It’s just that it’s easier to pretend, especially when all the choices are bad... he’s saying he’d rather not have lost ANYONE. But he had to keep going to make sure he didn’t lose EVERYONE... so he cares a lot 💜 he just doesn’t want to show it because he’s afraid he’ll lose if he does. Ps, Remember the second episode he asked “Am I a good man?” If you don’t care about the answer you wouldn’t ask. He DOES care. It’s just hard after losing So many people. He said it in his first episode “I’ve made many mistakes...” he has a lot of guilt for all the people lost because of him... 👍
Yeah, one of the most interesting things with any Doctor is seeing how far they'll push the fact that sometimes, being an alien doesn't just mean that they're a funny Space Gandalf(TM) with lots of fancy whizz-bang gadgets, but that they're also someone with centuries - nay, millennia! - of life experience, whose sort of larger - dare I say 'cosmic'? perspective on morality doesn't always mesh all that well with the usual expectations of human sentimentality...then again, you also get those 'twinkle' moments when the Doctor's more human than any human, so I guess it tends to balance out in the long run, yes? (Or, to put it another way; just like the TARDIS herself, maybe the Doctor may not always take you where you want to go in human terms, but he'll almost always take you where you need to go, right...???).
Hi Shayla "thay are going to be fine..." and yes the 12th is so focused on fixing the problem that he disregards "the Bloging" as 10th would call it the polite boring time wasting of people he will most likely never meet again, there are lives to save and every second counts, if he is to win he must not waste time. even when any of them could have been behind the train trap, saving them is a side bonus to saving himself and Clara. him upseting a few human feelings in order to save him self... wile also maby even saveing them as a side effect. (this Alien who looks human just changed my destiny how dare he. He also did what? OMG he must be stoped)
Fun Fact: Back in Classic "Who" the Seventh Doctor was mistaken for a man coming for a caretaker position at Coal Hill! He also wore a fez while holding a mop in that Episode, so do with that as you will... Fauxes' version of "Don't Stop Me Now" hits me EVERY TIME! "Are you my Mummy?" God bless! You cannot know how glad I was that Twelve just doesn't give a fuck. The simple fact that he's just "If you don't listen to me, you die!" screams Classic "Who" and I love it! I LOVE "Flatline"! Can't wait! -"Ren".
I love that, yes, we're on a journey watching Doctor Who with Shayla but also figuring out what's her outro, it's like that one sidequest you never do but you keep seeing it on your quest list.
HAHAHA.
Clara: "So you were pretending to be heartless".
The Doctor: "Would you like to think that about me? Would that make it easier? I didn’t know if I could save her. I couldn’t save Quell, I couldn’t save Moorhouse. There was a good chance that she’d die too. Sometimes the only choices you have are bad ones. But you still have to choose".
One of the best quotes from 12.
Series 5 Ep 13 'The Big Bang'
Doctor:"I know, I get it. An Egyptian Goddess, loose on the Oreient Express."😄
12:57 "He even phoned the TARDIS"
"No that can't be right, I was at the prayer meeting!"
omg all the feels are back! amy, rory, river, eleven ahhhhhh my faves
You know, Clara's "I love you" is for The Doctor. Jenna and Moffat have said that more than once.
lola Campos Gamez MY HEART OW OMG LOVE.
wow i love that every motoe reactor has this commented.... at least the women ones. i'm glad this is here! i love this fact, everyone must know it lmao
I find s8 gets a lot better with every rewatch as you notice all the subtle character development for every character. It's dark and it's messy but it's super complex and I love it
I definitely think Capaldi's run gets better with time
Fun fact! Frank Skinner (who is a famous comedian in the UK) who plays Perkins the Train Engineer is actually a massive fan of the show and he said in an interview the hardest part about filming this was having to turn down an opportunity to travel with the Doctor at the end. He really wanted to say yes!
Glad he didn't, he can't act.
@@Muckylittleme I feel like he would be great on Sherlock.
@@Jimmy_Jones Go on, I'll bite, what part?
@@Muckylittleme Someone Sherlock would go to to get random information. An inside man to something.
I loved the offer from 12 to get him on as a companion. So natural.
Honestly the whole thing with 12 not seeming to care about people dying is a bit misunderstood. It's not that he doesn't care, it's that he knows if he got distracted by his feelings or the stressfulness of the situation, he wouldn't be able to protect the people who were still alive and prevent them from dying too. So it seems heartless, but in reality, he's just not good with emotions and wants to stop any more people from dying.
12 is very emotionally guarded after how much emotional turmoil he went through as 11, so he can come off as cold. When actually he's just the same emotional bumbling mess that 11 is, he just doesn't like to show it jksdhfasj
also when the Doctor is like "Can I talk about the planets now" it's not that he doesn't like emotion, it's just that what Clara is saying is making him well up and get really emotional, which he doesn't know how to deal with.
"Are you my mummy?" (The Empty Child)
Also the Tenth Doctor while wearing a gas mask in "The Poison Sky".
Yes
In the pre-episode discussion on Reddit, someone had the prediction that he would say that. I was embarrassed that I didn't think of it.
Nymeria108 YESSS!
This is one of my favorite episodes of this series. Heck, What am I talking about? I love the entire Capaldi run! :)
The writing on the 12th doctor's run was hit and miss(much like the others), but he had a lot more misses.
However when he was a hit he was a really big hit.
"He cares so much, I don't know why he's so dismissive and moves on so quickly when other people die..."
Oh yeah! Wonder if we'll ever find out why....
**pulls over some popcorn to watch current reaction**
And then she skips over the relevant bit and never mentions anything about it.
@@Carabas72 that part was my favorite, so sad not to see that ):
Yeah, pity that moment didn't make the edit. For me that's when 12 fully crystalised.
Watching Her intro, and this is my exact anticipation XD
The chemistry between Capaldi & Coleman is both complicated and magic, both dark and reaffirming.
I think Many disliked this season because they could not Forgive either character for their darker impulses. But I think this is what gave them complexity, made them human and ultimately redeemable.
Dude...I am SO glad you like Peter!!!! I am ashamed to say that I was worried you wouldn't "get" him. He is my favorite of the new doctors, and I'm so stoked to watch you experience this awesome adventure in the tardis with grumpy #12 :)
Joshua Thompson Get ready, my next reactions will send my love through the roof.
@@JustSoShayla Can. Not. Wait!!! AHHH! He's definitely the kind of doctor you warm up to more and more with each episode :)
One thing I've noticed is that a Doctor's incarnation is heavily influenced by the last scenes and monologue the previous incarnation had before their death. When Matt's Doctor died he was kind in an old, crotchety headspace and that's how Peter's starts.
Then why wasn't Matt Smith continually crying like a little girl with a skinned knee? :P
You're absolutely right. The Doctor is an asshole in Series 8. He's shaped by his recent experiences, returning to the Time War in Day of the Doctor and being stuck on Trenzalore in Time of the Doctor. That's what makes his journey into peak Doctor-hood so great!
Asshole is a lil harsh isn't it? I guess it's just me but I never saw him that way. Yea it was a curmudgeon (can't believe I spelled that right on the first go lol) I just don't know if I'd go so far as to say asshole. All that to ask what was it that made it assholeish behavior?
The doctor IS an asshole and that is why his speech at his generation is................
I didn't mind it what annoyed me what the over use of Clara and doctor who turning into damn Clara who
I look at his series 8 personality in the same way. As the 11th, the Doctor was hunted down, assassinated and then went to war for hundreds of hears all because of who he was. That probably does make one a bit of a grouch for a while!
One of the interesting things about series 8 for me is that it makes us (well, me anyway ;) ask the question "What is an arsehole ?". Is 12 one because he doesn't lie and sugarcoat his responses ? Honesty's a good quality though right (or maybe only when we're being told what we want to hear) ? Are we arseholes when we read some horrendous story about people dying around the world from one cause or another, then just breeze past it and get on with our day ?
I'm with you about Danny. I never saw the attraction between the two. Yea, I know, just actors but they don't have the right chemistry. I'm also with you one Peter - at first I was hoping he would be as good a choice as I hoped and over time, he just became my favorite. He's a heck of an actor and I loved watching him.
And this is definitely one of my top 5 episodes. It really gives you an idea of what makes the 12th Doctor. He does care about each life but he must do what needs to be done to save the rest. He has a hard job, maybe Matts Doctor made his choices seem easier. But Peter's Doctor is just so complex and so is his relationship with Clara.
Twelve and Clara’s relationship is so great and honestly, to me, Twelve is Clara’s Doctor - Eleven and her were great together but he had Amy and Rory. Twelve started his regeneration off with her, so I think their chemistry is really solid.
Clara’s character arc really blossoms with Twelve and I love it.
One of the greatest episodes of all time (and space)
I think this is the first episode where we hear the 12'th Doctor's theme in full, which is awesome! Murray Gold did great work here.
The way Steven Moffat put it is that 12 is less "user-friendly" than 10 & 11.
In fact, there was a rumour going around that the idea behind the scenes is that he *is* the Doctor. Shakespeare talked about the 10th Doctor's "constant performance", and the Dream Lord" had a dig about how false 11's "tawdry quirks" were. 12, if the rumour is true, is supposed to be the actual person, stripped of all the pretending he does to make himself more palatable to the humans around him. 10 & 11 were the Time Lord playing the role of "the Doctor". 12 *is* just the Time Lord, not playing any kind of role.
Perfectly put.
The original, you might say...
Arguably similar to the actions of the 6th Doctor maybe?
I think Colin Baker himself said that they do manage to get it right every six Doctors or so. LMAO!!
@@abstractnonsense3253 not this one
The way I look at this episode is the Doctor isn't actually heartless. He had to act and talk that way, so Gus wouldn't realize what he was doing and try to stop him. He actually does care about what happens to everyone.
Also, he only had 66 seconds to play with. Maybe Five would spend half of that agonizing over the latest victim, but Twelve ain't got time for that shit. I love that they didn't back away from that.
Shayla's Normal Outro:
"What's my outro???"
Umar Saddique Truth.
You who so love soundtracks: that majestic music playing in the final scene between the Doctor and Clara is Twelve's theme, "A Good Man". It's absolutely fantastic and I've had it stuck in my head for the past year or two
I hope that you're reacting to Flatline. That's one of my favorites from this season!
She confirmed that she is. Twice. In this very video.
I think thats the episode where the 12th Doctor actually finds himself, knows who he is and his place in the universe.
Dang, wish you would have kept the beach scene for the reaction. Best part of the episode.
Exactly! I sooo wanted to see it
Pay for Patreon then ;)
"Sometimes all you have are bad choices. But you still have to choose. "
Such a simple statement that says so VERY much about life. It's one of my favorite Doctor quotes.
You hit on a big part of why I find series 8-9 so satisfying: the complexity. The way the characters are written, in terms of their psychology and how it drives their actions and conflicts between each other and within themselves, is just next-level in comparison to what we normally see on this show. We're actually seeing real drama, with something like a literary ambition, in a show that normally settles for melodrama. And for some people, it's just... not what they're there to see. They want people to act in a mechanical way that makes plots move forward. But I'm here for the psychology and the subtext and the deeper discussion about life. And boy howdy, I find this particular run of episodes an inspiration-especially after the fairly minimal psychology of the first half of Moffat's era, which was largely about performative cleverness. Here, a lot of that is stamped down. The show is often still very clever, sometimes ostentatiously so, but it's usually in aid of saying something more. And, it just feels like Steven Moffat found his real steam here as a mature artist, less intent on showing off than in exploring things that meant something to him, personally. And man, it's so sincere and vulnerable as a result. It's imperfect, but it tries. It's got something it's motivated to talk about.
Again, not what everyone wants from a show, particularly a show that's been going on for over 50 years and has never much done this before. But it does it for me.
(As I think I said in an earlier comment, his new writing team really really helps here too. Best regular stable the show's ever had, so far I'm concerned.)
Yeah, all this except I don't discount Moff's earlier stuff for Matt Smith. Plenty of complexity there, but none of the messiness we get to wallow in here. Not better or worse but very different, I say.
Now..... contrast this with Jodie Whittaker's first season. I love Jodie and the gang to bits, but the sudden simplicity in the plotting and characterization gave me whiplash after this stuff. I don't hate the new stuff at all, but I find I can do other things while watching the latest season and not miss anything whereas I needed to pin my eyelids open to catch everything in a typical Moff episode. Shame Chibnall has downshifted like this, I think his cast can deal with stuff as challenging as this but I guess we're not going to get it. :(
Aww shame you didnt post the beach scene between the Doctor and Clara.
That was a great scene.
"Sometime the only choices you have are bad ones, but you still have to choose".
@@amfe52 Such a simple sentence, but it explains so much about who the Doctor is.
When you open your eyes wide they look like Clara's. Peter Capaldi kills it....
It's like they inflate !
According to Jenna Coleman, in her mind, when doing the final scene, and delivering the lines on the phone, when she said, "I love you," if you notice she's looking straight at the Doctor, because in her mind she wasn't saying it to Danny on the phone, she was saying it to the Doctor. That's how she chose to play it.
ShadowCat That’s how I took it, so it came off quite spectacularly.
Really like this one too!
Edit: man if you like a dark character then 12 will be the doctor for you!
@David Blyth for the doctor yes I'd say he is a dark character not really caring about humans is quite dark for the doctor, to me series 10 is when most of that aspect is gone
i think because it feel more like a real relationship with its ups and downs this my favorite companion doctor relationship
This Doctor is more pragmatic on the surface which makes him come across as cold and distant even though he does care deep down but you’ll definitely see him change which will allow more of the kindness of the character to come to the surface .
His relationship with Clara is complex and messy ..it affects her in a more negative manner then other companions which I find interesting and you will see as you watch more .
Anyway , this is one of my favorite episodes of a season I consider to be the weakest of 12’s run.
My favourite episode from this season. :-)
This is one of my top 10 favourite Doctor Who episodes (and that includes the classic series).
I’m so glad you’re digging the character development too. Clara mostly gets flack for her flaws but that’s what makes her relationship with 12 so compelling, that they bring out the best and worst in each other. It’s a risky move for a companion because all the others (whom I love) were kind of designed to be universally likeable. I get that it backfires for some and they don’t like Clara but I think it’s so great
David Blyth nah I’m all set interacting with you lol still didn’t ask
Loved this episode.
Shayla vs 'Next Time' continues
The Caretaker episode is the most messy, wonderful, awkward episode in the messy, wonderful, awkward season that is Series 8. :)
And thanks for the recap on the non-reacting episodes!
What about in the forest of the night?
Utter garbage trashy thing
Blue Shark shhhhh..... no one mentions that one.......shhhhh
@@MaDmOnStErQr forest of the shite
David Blyth “local man thinks people want to argue on the internet, shares opinion angrily”
@David Blyth flatline was good, so was mummy on the Orient express, time heist and into the dalek were decent, rest were garbage
Classic series related notes for this episode: The old lady who dies in the beginning (Mrs. Pitt) was played by Janet Henfrey who last appeared in Doctor Who back in the final season of the original series in 1989, playing "Mrs. Hardaker" in the wonderful 7th Doctor story "The Curse of Fenric". Both this story and Fenric involve creatures based on classic Monster movie villians. A Mummy here and Vampiric "Haemovores" in Fenric. The other thing I wanted to note is that the 12th Doctor is wearing a 1st Doctor style tie in this episode, which I think is a nice throwback.
The word you are looking for Doctor 12 is "distant". He does care, but as this episode and the Dalek one shows he does not bother with being nice about those about to die. He does want your death to count and to be remembered.
I really liked your reaction to the "are you my mummy?" line. :D I totally get what you meant at the end when you called this a normal episode. That's what's so surprising about this and the next episode; they're the usual "monster-of-the-week" Doctor Who episodes but it feels like there's more happening in them than usual (at least in my opinion). They're clever and creative.
I am 100% on board with "peace out, girl scouts" coming back and it made me smile to hear it again. :) I'd vote for it to be the new permanent outro if I didn't enjoy seeing you come up with different ones each time.
;)
11 is the lost little boy who ran away, who you occasionally see the weight of the ancient soul inside.
12 is the ancient soul carrying the weight of all he's lost, who you occasionally see the lost little boy inside.
Very fun fact: Jenna Coleman (clara) confirmed in a con panel or interview or something (don't remember the source sorry,) that when she says "I love you" over the phone she looks directly at the Doctor while she says it
love that
i have a tumblr version (if you don't mind) - silenceofheaven.tumblr.com/post/183968571855/throughyourblindness-me!
also this is really cute - silenceofheaven.tumblr.com/post/183968602285/x.
(there is no spoilers)
YES! Loveeeee that.
Fantastic episode. This episode finally shows why the twelfth Doctor is the way he is. You're in the majority with Danny. Also, while Rose is a divisive character, she isn't actually THAT divisive. She mostly gets a lot of hate from sections of the hardcore fandom. On the other hand, Rose is the most popular companion with the casual/mainstream audience alongside Sarah Jane. Clara is by far the most divisive companion you've met at this point.
I'd say Donna is the most popular companion, not Rose
@@tomitankengine Donna is the most popular with the hardcore fandom. I'm talking about the wider, more casual/mainstream audience. Although, Donna is certainly up there too.
I honestly think Rose was used too much for a character who was so uninteresting. But, I won't begrudge people for liking her.
@@SuperSanity1 I thought Rose's coming of age story was very interesting, especially as they didn't shy away from showing the other side of it with how her decisions affected her loved ones. I also liked the love story between Rose and the Doctor because it questioned whether or not it's a good idea for the Doctor to get that close to a human. You can dislike Rose all you want, but she was anything, but uinteresting.
@@Mrazmatmahmood She was interesting to you. That doesn't mean she was interesting to me. I'm not trying to convince you she isn't, so don't try to convince me she is. It won't work.
The next Christmas special really should be seen as an integral part of this season. Normally they are stand alone, but not in this case.
One of my favourite episode's, it's written by Jamie Mathison who in my opinion wrote Twelfths best stories
Jamie Mathieson is who I wanted to take over when Moffat left. It seems like not many people want the showrunner gig though.
perfect episode choices and awesome reactions... glad you're enjoying Capaldi's quintessential Doctor
I always hated how she lied about Danny's involvement in her decision. "It was his idea we stopped." Um... no. That was hers; he just supported whatever decision she chose.
Electroshock Therapy for the Soul that’s the beginning of Clara’s downfall. It’s a great character beat. She succumbs to the first rule of being the Doctor - you lie.
I liked it personally. Clara isn't presented as some cookie-cutter paragon of virtue, she's a rounded human being with flaws. Much more interesting IMO.
Yeah. NewWho companions have always been written as sympathetic and fun. Clara was allowed to be difficult and morally questionable. She was even allowed to be unlikeable sometimes. That's brave of Doctor Who, and a huge step forward.
@@anonymes2884 I agree. I like her okay enough with Eleven, but I actually began to get invested in her character because she started revealing her (many) faults to Twelve. Still, putting the blame on someone else was really cheap.
You know this already by now because you're into Season 9, but the Doctor is having a crisis of confidence all the way through Season 8. He doesn't know whether he's a good man, and he's scarred from a thousand years on Trenzalore. I think the first time we see his settled character is Last Christmas.
I'm so happy u reacted to this episode I loved it!!!
Did you happen to catch the "Are you my mummy?" phrase the Doctor said? A bit of a nod to season 1's The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances 2 parter. The 10th Doctor also said it when he was wearing a gas mask in season 4's The Sontaran Stratagem/The Poison Sky
This episode explained a lot. Clara only saw the outward appearance of 11 with 12 she slowly is seeing the doctor. The beach scene is an important moment because it shows he is about saving people but sometimes their are only hard choices but he still needs to choose.
Lessons for all on seeing through the appearance to the person beneath.
Clara is very young the Doctor not so, she had much to learn.
" sometimes the only choices you have are bad ones but you still have to choose" one of my favorite Capaldi quotes
A vulcan would say the needs of the many out way the needs of the few or the one. The Doctor seems to think the same thing ... he just has no patience for fools when lives are on the line.
One of the best things about this episode was that Don't Stop Me Now cover. So good.
I always felt that the 12th Doctor is the most emotional doctor out of them all. He's like an exposed nerve; the depth of his care doesn't change what changes is what he allows you to see; it is the doctor after being trapped for 1000 years on Trenzalore, It is him after having to convince his Clara who has been with him since the start of his journey through time and space to stay with him because he is so scared right from the get-go in Deep Breath. 12 just lets you see beyond all the human antics that the previous incarnations had put on to disguise the Doctor's trauma after the time war and straight into the Doctor's dark and alien nature.
If you rewatch the Time Heist episode, there is a moment after he dismissed one of the gang who accused him of being detached. A look appeared on his face while his back was turned. A moment of vulnerability before focusing on the task at hand. The Doctor does care, more than he is willing to admit. But there are times he feels he has to put up a cold front to get the job done. Like in this episode.
I like Danny. Not as much as Rory. But he's a good character and an effective way to keep Clara tied to life outside of space-time traveling. There hasn't been much of that since Amy and Rory left the show.
It's not that he doesn't care, but once someone has died, they're dead, they can't undo that, so what matters then is saving the people that are left. It's not a dismiss of human life, it's an attempt to save everyone who still has a chance
When you thought the Doctor was being crazy, Capaldi was actually doing a surprisingly good job of channeling the Fourth Doctor.
12 is my absolute favourite. I hope you really grow to love him as I did.
I loved this episode! Are you my mummy? Great reaction; well done. I've watched Dr Who since I was a kid living in England. Lacking human social skills is a common thread in all the Doctors, but I've loved them all.
I agree about how the Doctor seems rather heartless at first, but he does become more compassionate as time goes on. As Peter becomes more familiar and comfortable with the character, you will see this.
He reminds you of 9? I wonder why? 9 came off the back of a life spent fighting a war for hundreds of years. 12 has just done the same. I think there may be a connection. :)
Lol your opening statement is literally the understatement of the year, and it's my favorite thing about him xD lolol. He's loved the caretaker concept. I generally love when the doctor tries to blend in with humanity really badly. - time heist is one of my favorite episodes, so I'm a bit sad to miss that one.
I cant believe you cut your reaction to that beautiful and important character moment between 12 and clara on the beach :( i think thats the first time i have seen a reaction to this episode without that scene included
Same, that's what I waiting for, especially how she reacted to the Doctor being seemingly so dismissive and even callous. How he asks her if him being heartless would make it easier and how he explains he has to keep on track and not get distracted by his emotions so that more people can survive
lagnok I edited this one a while back so I can’t remember exactly why I cut it. 99% of the time it’s because I am trying to keep my reactions under 10 minutes. That is a very good possibility of why the scene got cut. I do try to get every “reactiony” moment that I have in each video. Don’t worry tho, a lot of fun upcoming stuff in my reactions with Clara and the Doctor.
Me too :(. Especially because that scene was almost like a direct response to her opening musings about the doctor, about how he seems dismissive etc. He essentially explains himself in that scene, because Clara had those same questions/thoughts! It's so odd to me that it was skipped and not discussed, when it would have been a continuation of the intro discussion...I'm bummed but at the same time I'm really happy she appreciates 12 and Clara's complex relationship. So many hate on Clara (or, to put it better, a loud minority on the internet hate on Clara) because they don't even try to understand her perspective or her dynamic with 12, they think it's unforgivable for a companion to call out the Doctor on his behavior (refuse point blank to think he is in the wrong ever), to have her own thoughts, etc., which is just utter bs. Those things are what make 12 and Clara so interesting and fascinating as individuals/characters, and it's why their relationship is so compelling, why they clash and spark but also come together in important ways.
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Edited for reasons I can't fathom...
@@Carabas72 could you please edit your comment
S8 is one of my favourite series, I LOVE the dynamic between the doctor and Clara.
I love hearing your thoughts on shows so good and I argee with a lot of what you said here and to see why he is this way and also your outros are some of my favorite on RUclips
up until this point we know the doctor does care, but he has a hard way of showing it. i thinks it’s in ‘flatline’ where the doctor sees himself through clara that makes him realise how cold he can be, and from then on he does start to change in a very good way
also, really loving these reactions! i feel like i’m watching myself react to episodes when they first aired
Shayla needs the official welcome package
Love your outros! ;) :D
Clara has an addiction just like the doctor. She wants to do what he does cause deep down they're really alike :)
You could say they're almost...equals.
"Are you my mummy?" I see what you did there, Doctor!
I love this Doctor's disconnect from people's feelings he's far more realistic in how he doesn't give false promises that everyone is going to survive he tells you straight on "Your probably going to die."
I think what you enjoyed about that final scene is what people hated about Clara. I think lots of people hated the distrust and character personality changes.
Incredible performance by Capaldi. I could always see he is a great actor, but this really cemented his role as the doctor for me.
As I said before, a fast Regeneration cause problems for the Doctor. His honesty is a good example. for instance he could say you will be dead in 10 minutes. He misses out Unless I can save you. This Episode was a good example. In the beginning the Doctor thought there were lots of People on the Train. Just one Person was being killed so asked them for Information on what they could see so he could come up with the answer and save the rest. The reason he was saying the bad things was told at the end which you missed out. He knew they were being watched so he had to appear that way so as not to give the game away. I thought you would have mentioned the Queen song, 'Don't stop me now', being sung on the Train.
12:54 The moment he's talking about when he says " he even phone called in.the tardis " is right after rory's and amy's wedding at the end of season 5.
The " are you my mummy " is also a reference to the empty child episodein season 1 ( with captain jack 🙂 )
Btw this episode did the job since you kinda reacted just like expected about the Doctor's detached behavior and the reasons why he acts like this 🤗
Tom Baker was the 4th doctor who and what made him so legendary was the fact he was dr who for 7 whole years because he had love for dr who like no other and because his viewers would tune in every Saturday morning just to see Tom Baker shayla you should definitely do CLASSIC WHO REACTIONS!
that rendition of don't stop me now is
I’d like to point out to you, what you said about Capaldi’s Doctor and his attitude. Is that his Doctor harkens back to more of the “classic Doctor Who” Doctors. As someone who is watching a lot of classic Who right now. I can tell you, the Doctor used to be a lot sharper around the edges while still being the hero The Doctor is.
I just pictured Shayla with such a haircut, Clara has in this episode... And I think it would just look fabulous and awesome.....
my favourite lines in this episode were with that beach scene:
CLARA: Blew up the train?
DOCTOR: Blew up the train. But we got away. Then I dropped everyone off at the nearest civilised planet, which happened to be here.
DOCTOR: You seemed happy asleep so I just left you.
CLARA: So you saved everyone.
DOCTOR: No, I just saved you and I let everyone else suffocate. Ha, ha, ha.
CLARA: Hmm.
DOCTOR: Yeah, this is just my cover story.
You probably don’t see my comments anymore but I love that your liking the 12th doctor
The lady who died at the very start was in The Curse of Fenric!!!
It took the 12th Doctor for me to truly warm up to Clara. I've always thought that the actress was brilliant, but I didn't care for her storyline with 11, and their relationship just didn't work for me. But Clara and 12... oh man, I love them so much. Their relationship is so complicated and interesting and the actors have the best chemistry. And they just get better and better together. They're truly one of my favorite parts of Doctor Who as a whole, period. You're in for some great stuff! And amazing reaction as always, you're a joy to rewatch this wonderful show with!
It's OK to not like Danny or his relationship with Clara. You would be in good company.
There are so many episodes that I would recommend to watch in Series 9, but my personal favourites are 1,2,3,4,5,7,8,10,11 and 12(for reaction purposes) it would be great to see reactions to them, even if it meant spreading out the time it takes you to watch the show, but I understand completely if you would prefer to get through the season at your own pace and without the pressure of making reactions to all of them. Be kind to yourself :-)
Jack Lees I am doing every episode of season 9 except 3, 4, and 9.
@@JustSoShayla Make sure that you look after yourself first and foremost!!😀 Plus i hope that you like episodes 3 and 4 as they are my faves after 10 and 11
Little info after the ep BIG BANG with Amy and Rory wedding then the doctor got the call to go one invite, remember, Egyptian princess and mummy on the orien express, and did u pick up the line from the doctor dances ARE YOU MY MUMMY!! = gas mask zombies
The 9th doctor was remorseful where as the 12th Doctor is the most doctorish out of all of the doctors
Bro, I just rewatched your final performance together with Goku against Jiren! Just so epic and awesome!! Also hyped for this summer?....
You’re right about Danny, in fact whilst listening to this I also went “Ehhhh” as you did.
The issue isn’t that he’s a bad character, the writers have just treated more like a plot device to advance Clara’s character instead of his own personality.
Can't really talk about Danny fully yet. Spoilers, etc. I don't think he was written badly. Moff didn't want to repeat Rory, he did something different with Danny that hadn't been done with a companion's significant other before.
Starting with season 9, could we maybe get a reaction to every episode? It's okay if it's on your own time, it's just, it would be really nice.
I don't quite know how her current system will work with series 9 since most stories are two parters. Honestly, as much as I don't like that series (it's really only because of the finale in retrospect), she probably should react to every episode. Except for one. You know, THAT one.
Season 9 is one of my most favorite seasons too, but I don't think every episode is react-worthy! Always just 1 of the two parters imo, although nothing beats heaven sent of course...
@@Mrazmatmahmood give hell bent another chance! I beg you, seriously! As long as you KNOW, what is going to happen, and ignore what you WISHED, would have happened instead, this episode is just absolutely beautiful. And for what it does for the Doctor and Clara plus its beautiful cinematography, score and poetic dialogue, it will always have a special place in my heart.
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@@chanceneck8072 I've tried to like Hell Bent, but what it does to the character of the Doctor is unforgivable. There's many other things I don't like, but if I went in to detail we'd be getting into spoiler territory. I'll post my thoughts on the episode, when Shayla gets there.
@@Mrazmatmahmood "what it does to the character of the Doctor is unforgivable" ****[SPOILERS FOR S9 AHEAD. Please don't read if you haven't watched!]**** It's almost like the Doctor didn't go through a physically, emotionally and psychologically traumatic experience that lasted billions of years, with only the thought of saving Clara getting him through it. You think, coming out of THAT, that anything would stop him from saving Clara, even going against his own moral code? Wow, to think you like your heroes THAT predictable, no flaws or raw impulses. How boring, how uninteresting and anticlimactic, after thousands upon thousands of lifetimes in hell, would it have been if it became just another "he would never" typical Doctor moment. "Do you really think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?" It's the same powerful emotion, the same devotion and love ("love is a promise") that made him punch a wall for eternity, and forced him to go against his own morals. It's ridiculous that any one who truly understood that would find his actions "unforgivable" and utterly against his character. If anything, it makes the Doctor more compelling than ever.
I hope you saw my comment from the last video. But what I said is that the 12th Doctor is afraid to care this time around because every time he cares he loses people. He’s tired of losing people and he’s afraid that it’s all his fault that people die. So he is the Doctor now reflecting on everything he’s done and everything he’s lost... so he’s not being a jerk to be a jerk, he’s pretending to be a jerk to not face the fear within him that he’s “not a good man”... ironically his fear is causing him to be what he’s afraid of... I mean he did lose a lot... you skipped the conversation in the reaction but When he says “sometimes you only have bad choices but you still have to choose.“
That’s him clarifying to Clara and to us the audience that He isn’t trying to be careless. It isn’t that he doesn’t care about their lives. Sometimes It’s just that it’s easier to pretend, especially when all the choices are bad... he’s saying he’d rather not have lost ANYONE. But he had to keep going to make sure he didn’t lose EVERYONE... so he cares a lot 💜 he just doesn’t want to show it because he’s afraid he’ll lose if he does.
Ps, Remember the second episode he asked “Am I a good man?” If you don’t care about the answer you wouldn’t ask. He DOES care. It’s just hard after losing So many people. He said it in his first episode “I’ve made many mistakes...” he has a lot of guilt for all the people lost because of him... 👍
It's a really good definition. I think the same.
You're NOT the only one that feels this way towards Danny
Brilliant reaction! Hope you had included the beach scene. That was amazing!
Anyone notice the sexual subtext when Clara and the Doctor are talking at the end? ahaha
Yeah, one of the most interesting things with any Doctor is seeing how far they'll push the fact that sometimes, being an alien doesn't just mean that they're a funny Space Gandalf(TM) with lots of fancy whizz-bang gadgets, but that they're also someone with centuries - nay, millennia! - of life experience, whose sort of larger - dare I say 'cosmic'? perspective on morality doesn't always mesh all that well with the usual expectations of human sentimentality...then again, you also get those 'twinkle' moments when the Doctor's more human than any human, so I guess it tends to balance out in the long run, yes?
(Or, to put it another way; just like the TARDIS herself, maybe the Doctor may not always take you where you want to go in human terms, but he'll almost always take you where you need to go, right...???).
Kill the Moon was a weird episode (sci-fi wise): where were the atmospheric consequences of what just occurred.
Hi Shayla "thay are going to be fine..." and yes the 12th is so focused on fixing the problem that he disregards "the Bloging" as 10th would call it the polite boring time wasting of people he will most likely never meet again, there are lives to save and every second counts, if he is to win he must not waste time. even when any of them could have been behind the train trap, saving them is a side bonus to saving himself and Clara. him upseting a few human feelings in order to save him self... wile also maby even saveing them as a side effect. (this Alien who looks human just changed my destiny how dare he. He also did what? OMG he must be stoped)
Great reaction Shayla!
Fun Fact: Back in Classic "Who" the Seventh Doctor was mistaken for a man coming for a caretaker position at Coal Hill! He also wore a fez while holding a mop in that Episode, so do with that as you will...
Fauxes' version of "Don't Stop Me Now" hits me EVERY TIME!
"Are you my Mummy?" God bless!
You cannot know how glad I was that Twelve just doesn't give a fuck. The simple fact that he's just "If you don't listen to me, you die!" screams Classic "Who" and I love it! I LOVE "Flatline"! Can't wait! -"Ren".
12:25 that, right there, was the best part of the reaction. And, yes, Clara and 12th have the best chemistry.
Why nobody talking about that awesome call back to Eccleston, 9 TH Doctor?