Why You Should IGNORE Job "Requirements" & APPLY ANYWAY! |

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  • @seancondon5572
    @seancondon5572 5 лет назад +3618

    This is what I call the BBQ philosophy. And BBQ stands for... Balls Before Quals.

  • @jaz9262
    @jaz9262 5 лет назад +4692

    Perfect candidate: 20 years old, 20 years of professional experience

    • @Maybe-So
      @Maybe-So 5 лет назад +190

      We needed someone at our job to assist, so our management/HR dept came up with a list of what they’d like. We all looked at it, and NONE of us qualified for our own job. It WAS a wishlist, 95% of the skills “wished for” weren’t needed and would never be used. IF we had hired a person with all those skills, not only could we not afford him, he’d be bored and would probably quit shortly after being hired. So, Yeah, it’s a wishlist sometimes (not always). I’d say if your skill set matches 65-70% of what they say they want, apply anyway, and be honest about what you know. In many cases, if you’re smart, you can learn to do the job. The key (after being smart and teachable) is can you take direction from management without argument (however stupid their requests are), and get along with others.

    • @charliedallachie3539
      @charliedallachie3539 5 лет назад +19

      Hey you’re a professional in eating and breathing.

    • @charliedallachie3539
      @charliedallachie3539 5 лет назад +46

      NoOneOfConsequence that’s part of the major problem today with hiring. Is this an HR thing? Job postings are so out of touch.

    • @shadow_realm47
      @shadow_realm47 5 лет назад +66

      @@charliedallachie3539 I looked at a listing where they wanted 6-8 years of experience for an HR manager who MUST know R,Python SQL data sets motivate everyone up and down the workforce with "leadership skills" and must be under 24 years also must have and MBA:)

    • @charliedallachie3539
      @charliedallachie3539 5 лет назад +23

      tansteel watch, for those qualifications they won’t pay. Easily 95-125k in DC, more in NYC (150k) but will probably ask 50k....so stupid

  • @smithh104
    @smithh104 3 года назад +2832

    I followed your advice. I applied for a job in which they wanted 4 years of experience, I had none. But they invited me to an interview and picked me anyway. Thanks Josh

    • @omkardixit4428
      @omkardixit4428 Год назад +47

      Bro what? What was the job?

    • @smithh104
      @smithh104 Год назад +153

      @@omkardixit4428 Account Manager for a Marketing company.

    • @akshay9602
      @akshay9602 Год назад +62

      When you apply in such positions, usually there is a part where they ask how much experience do you have? So do you simply lie about the experience? And what about resume? Should we also lie on our resume that we have x years of experience

    • @amateruss
      @amateruss Год назад +10

      Bro, stop capping. hehe

    • @BusinessWolf1
      @BusinessWolf1 Год назад +79

      ​​@@akshay9602 you lie in the prompt to not get filtered by javascript, you don't lie in the resume to get selected by HR. EDIT: embellishing your CV is okay and expected

  • @aibou2399
    @aibou2399 5 лет назад +3042

    A friend once told me: "Just apply. In the worst case scenario, you learn what not to do next time you apply. Best case, you get the job. You never lose."

    • @Merrybandoruffians
      @Merrybandoruffians 5 лет назад +255

      As my Mom always says: Don’t disqualify yourself. You don’t know what they’re looking for. Let THEM tell YOU no.

    • @Th3BlackPhoenix
      @Th3BlackPhoenix 5 лет назад +36

      That's what my cousin keep telling me, but uh, I don't have the balls to risk a "No"

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow 5 лет назад +64

      @@Th3BlackPhoenix how will you ever know if they'll say yes?

    • @shyam5631
      @shyam5631 5 лет назад +2

      @@mycelia_ow lol

    • @Merrybandoruffians
      @Merrybandoruffians 5 лет назад +84

      Th3BlackPhoenix that’s the point - it doesn’t matter. Job requirements and postings are complete bullshit. Half the time, companies don’t even know what they want tbh. From the applicant’s end, its just a numbers game - you’re going to get rejected, but eventually someone is gonna be buying what you’re selling.
      This advice also works for dating btw, haha
      Edit: I know rejection hurts, but you gotta develop a fuck it mentality. Remember, it’s all a game, the winners have already been chosen, you’re not one of them (unless Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk or someone is reading this). It’s not personal, it’s not a reflection on you. You’re just trying to get in, make your bag and go the fuck home so you can live your life.

  • @nicholasrobins2835
    @nicholasrobins2835 5 лет назад +4434

    I applied for a role where I ticked all the boxes. The recruiter called me this week, said I was overqualified, that they went with someone who could "grow" into the role.

    • @oblivion_2852
      @oblivion_2852 5 лет назад +702

      What bs

    • @dolphinwhale6210
      @dolphinwhale6210 5 лет назад +109

      haha

    • @thamanofthahour1202
      @thamanofthahour1202 5 лет назад +1273

      In other words they knew they would have to pay you more than who they picked

    • @knes167
      @knes167 5 лет назад +576

      I never understood this concept. They want you to be qualified but wont hire you if you're "overqualified"
      Why?

    • @charliedallachie3539
      @charliedallachie3539 5 лет назад +475

      Damned if you’re qualified, damned if you’re not 😂

  • @sumtingwong8768
    @sumtingwong8768 5 лет назад +2801

    "Job requirements are more or less a wish list" That is so true.

    • @mitjed
      @mitjed 5 лет назад +40

      It varies actually. in a Job Post, they usually post must-have job requirements and a bonus if you have experience with a set of requirements or wishlist, so usually, there are companies that really require those experiences, and your cv will usually go down the bin, ever wonder why some juniors applied 100 and just have 2-3 response.

    • @sebas8225
      @sebas8225 4 года назад +9

      @philip Trevor It´s like the youtube Algorithms and AI, or that cringy biggoted youtuber who tells you they´ll delete whatever your post if it doesnt meet their expectations, it´s just a attempt at posting control quality, doesnt mean we need to follow the rules.

    • @loafer9844
      @loafer9844 4 года назад +14

      I don't know about other countries but here I tried lot of times . I got rejected 😭

    • @alelectric2767
      @alelectric2767 4 года назад +1

      This is true. The unicorn applicant.

    • @sumtingwong8768
      @sumtingwong8768 4 года назад +10

      @@mitjed 550 people agree with me...I think there is something to it

  • @nataliebf
    @nataliebf 3 года назад +556

    I IGNORED Job "Requirements" & APPLIED ANYWAY! One month later I had three renowned companies offering me the job the day after the interview and I got to CHOOSE the one that appealed to me most. Thank you for motivating me to just go for it, despite the lack of experience! I just wanted to tell you that thanks to you Joshua, I am now living the life I had dreamed of for months. :)

    • @TheChocolateDrop2
      @TheChocolateDrop2 Год назад +6

      🎉🎉

    • @questfreelancersdigitalmar7556
      @questfreelancersdigitalmar7556 Год назад +3

      Congratulations. What's the role you applied for?

    • @1queijocas
      @1queijocas Год назад +1

      Did you lie on your cv?

    • @random-content6969
      @random-content6969 Год назад

      Hi what did you do get selected?

    • @Jack-os2yw
      @Jack-os2yw Год назад +7

      @@1queijocasdon’t lie on your cv, lie on the job application. So like select if it says how many years are you experienced say a lot but when the interview comes around you should hopefully get the job as you passed the ATS system.

  • @BangMaster96
    @BangMaster96 4 года назад +1288

    The only reason they list an Entry-Level programming position and still require 3+ years of experience, even though it's an "ENTRY LEVEL" position, is so they can pay an experienced developer the salary of an Entry Level developer.

    • @Ravenex2
      @Ravenex2 3 года назад +93

      Exactly, so that developer should say "I'm not entry level so I don't expect entry level salaries." lol

    • @FilmFan-iv7sz
      @FilmFan-iv7sz 3 года назад +3

      Good way to put it

    • @user-li7gm7gv3v
      @user-li7gm7gv3v 3 года назад +3

      Smart

    • @RamAurelius
      @RamAurelius 3 года назад +28

      @Jason Smith I believe this is a big part of the situation. Everyone wants "free college" and "college for everyone and anyone", but fail to realize that the labor market is a scare resource, and like with money, every new degree printed devalues all the existing ones.

    • @itsalorikatpnw
      @itsalorikatpnw Год назад +4

      Truth dude. This is why I'm applying anyway as long as I can honestly say that I can do the job that needs to be done. And they fuckin wonder why people get such bad imposter syndrome when first starting in tech

  • @kj1100
    @kj1100 5 лет назад +923

    "if i am not a fit for this specific opportunity, i am flexible and willing to take other positions that may better fit my qualifications."

    • @pllpsy665
      @pllpsy665 5 лет назад +290

      That is how I got my stripper gig at IBM.

    • @sukers624
      @sukers624 5 лет назад +69

      That is actually how i got my first job. I accidently applied to a senior position with 6 months of experience lol

    • @maskedbadass6802
      @maskedbadass6802 5 лет назад +20

      @@pllpsy665 Oh wow, youtube is really ramping up on the censorship. They erased my comment where all I was trying to say was that you're not too far off from reality because not too long ago a woman resigned after she hired a t-r-a-n-s b-l-a-c-k stripper to give lap dances for a conference on combating homelessness on the taxpayers' dime.

    • @sqfzerzefsdf
      @sqfzerzefsdf 5 лет назад +20

      @KJ now spam this to every hiring company in your field together with the most generically applicable corporate tailored email and you will find a job in no time

    • @kj1100
      @kj1100 5 лет назад +1

      @@sqfzerzefsdf Alright, EZ job finding

  • @SpankyTheHippo83
    @SpankyTheHippo83 5 лет назад +1361

    dude, you're like the job mentor everyone needs. if everyone who graduated university saw your videos, they'd be set for the job market.

    • @JWB19
      @JWB19 5 лет назад +38

      I wish I had him as a job mentor years ago in 2009 when I was struggling to find a job in my field of study.
      Puts my school's career counselor to shame, smh😣

    • @Coaching-is3pz
      @Coaching-is3pz 5 лет назад +22

      @HermeticHeretic So true. I just suggested his videos to my Uber driver -- a young guy just about to graduate. I told him about Joshua Fluke and made sure to write down the name for him.

    • @siddharthnandi8567
      @siddharthnandi8567 4 года назад +11

      I'm in first year i'm already learning alot watching his videos. It's gonna help me greatly when i get my first job in the semester break

    • @RPcropland
      @RPcropland Год назад +4

      He is a millennial, we may look 20 but you'd be surprised we are adults that maybe have 10+ years of navigating a shit job market lol

    • @Zorichai
      @Zorichai Год назад

      Hell yeah 👍🏽

  • @Nekesu
    @Nekesu 5 лет назад +752

    Apply at least to waste a company's time, they end up wasting their employees time anyway.

    • @vikiv.1352
      @vikiv.1352 3 года назад +14

      Free coffeeeeee

    • @kiasmn
      @kiasmn 3 года назад +14

      Lmao

    • @zachsheffee8458
      @zachsheffee8458 3 года назад +31

      Except that it takes 10 to 20 minutes to apply to a job & 1 to 2 seconds to deny a job!

    • @zachsheffee8458
      @zachsheffee8458 3 года назад +2

      Manager looks job application. Two seconds goes by. Manager na. Throws in trash.

    • @SydneyScream
      @SydneyScream 3 года назад +2

      @@zachsheffee8458 what if they call for an interview?

  • @mgmonteiro1
    @mgmonteiro1 5 лет назад +810

    "A good company should always be willing to train you in some form" - listen to this, folks (to all of it, but especially this). No one can sit down on a table their first day and know what to do without guidance. No matter how experienced you are, you're most likely joining a team with projects and it's a must that they get you up to date with it. Don't be afraid to apply as long as you think you can meet the core responsibilities AFTER some ramping up, because if they leave you hanging from the start it wasn't going to be very good work anyways.

    • @jakster16
      @jakster16 5 лет назад +61

      This. Not only that, even if your new job is the same as the old job, you are in a new environment and in a new "culture". Those are things that cannot be rushed and take TIME to adjust to.

    • @FirstLast-hm8oz
      @FirstLast-hm8oz 5 лет назад +3

      You are right, but in reality they don't follow your advice. The try different and both lose -- and the next comes.

    • @Simboiss
      @Simboiss 4 года назад +6

      90% of the jobs I see ask for .NET and Java. I don't know these things. I'm 90% fucked.

  • @Slaarduk
    @Slaarduk 4 года назад +410

    Ignoring the job requirements is perhaps the best advice one can get. Helped me out so much!

  • @thepracticalblade9013
    @thepracticalblade9013 Год назад +143

    I once was told something that has stuck with me forever...
    "If you're certain you can perform every single task in the job description, you are overqualified."
    If you're 80% of the way there, consider the 20% you're missing to be a growth opportunity. Even employers know it's rare they're going to find someone who actually checks every single box.

    • @dhenderson1810
      @dhenderson1810 6 месяцев назад +1

      Except they don't want to train you in the other 20%.
      They don't want you being too good or they will have to pay you more.

  • @笑笑-s2j
    @笑笑-s2j 3 года назад +149

    For anyone (that's currently or previously employed) that doubts what he says, take a look at your position's job description one of these days. I looked at how my last company describes my last job to outside candidates the other day and laughed. At least five of the "requirements" and eight of the "preferred" were things I either NEVER dealt with or SELDOM did on that job.
    More often than not, companies go shopping for a Ferrari with a Toyota budget, so to speak. Keep that in mind next time you feel hopeless while perusing job descriptions.

  • @JD-qo7hm
    @JD-qo7hm 5 лет назад +598

    I apply anyway. Indeed always tells me I shouldn't, I get interviews anyway. Don't listen to the bullshit that prevents you from pursuing the best professional path you can achieve.

    • @Ravenex2
      @Ravenex2 3 года назад +39

      I had a good CS professor that taught us about "fantasy lists" that HR produces with unrealistic expectations for those applying. It's even funnier when they ask for more experience in a technology/language longer than it's been out for. lmao

    • @warriorshedge6772
      @warriorshedge6772 3 года назад +6

      I use indeed and it takes forever to get a chance by anyone

    • @tuilleri
      @tuilleri 3 года назад +11

      @@warriorshedge6772 it’s a numbers game , you just gotta apply to many jobs (which you think you’ll like or can tolerate or learn ) , you’ll get rejected but eventually someone will want you . I had 5 interviews this week after I had applied to 20 jobs. Numbers game my friend

  • @pelosuelto70
    @pelosuelto70 5 лет назад +308

    Alright. I'm going for it, especially with my anxiety issues. I needed to hear this. Thanks alot.

    • @haydo8373
      @haydo8373 5 лет назад +16

      #metoo

    • @paulstelian97
      @paulstelian97 5 лет назад +29

      Good luck. Apply to multiple jobs in parallel if you can, some will just completely trash the CV before even ATTEMPTING to contact you, and after all you only need one to actually give you the job. Send out your CV and cover letter to like 50 spots. Out of those a handful may reply, invite you over at the interview. Do what you can on each interview. If one of them actually makes an offer, great. If more than one, pick the one you like the most and turn it down for the others.

    • @Music_Head
      @Music_Head 4 года назад +1

      @@haydo8373 LoL!!!!

    • @alfonsosalinas3026
      @alfonsosalinas3026 Год назад +5

      Update?

    • @mzIbrahim615
      @mzIbrahim615 10 месяцев назад

      Oh man this anxiety 🥹

  • @mmmako
    @mmmako 5 лет назад +309

    I got a job out of uni with a requirement of "4 years industry experience", you'd think they meant job experience but really they just wanted to find people that are actually familiar with/interested in the field we're working in.

    • @sucram1015
      @sucram1015 5 лет назад +87

      All of this misleading bullshit job candidates have to go through. I understand just apply to the job because the requirements are bullshit. But it's still misleading as hell and can negatively impact someone.

    • @TheRecklessMetalhead
      @TheRecklessMetalhead 2 месяца назад

      @@sucram1015 33m here, I was like this for the longest time and have been fooled by those listings until now. Also, I have been applying for bookkeeping, welding, and engineering jobs, and there is something new that I can be good at. If I want to learn something new, I am all for it.

  • @vinceramces
    @vinceramces 5 лет назад +160

    If job requirements are a wishlist. Then companies just keep on doing "Add to Cart"

  • @sarahh2072
    @sarahh2072 5 лет назад +553

    I never understood why people wouldn't apply. I applied to everything I had at least some skills for and told them I was willing to learn what I didn't know. Most employers are happy with that.

    • @Ravenex2
      @Ravenex2 3 года назад +82

      Because "fantasy lists" are awfully off-putting to people with far below qualifications who could still do the job with training. That goes away once it gets dispelled.

    • @LuminousWhispers11
      @LuminousWhispers11 3 года назад +35

      @@Phil-ni3ol With another problem being that for at least one company they are 100% serious about the job requirements.

    • @renaisnisbett
      @renaisnisbett 3 года назад +37

      @@LuminousWhispers11 Of course there's no way to know which company is "serious" about their qualifications and who isn't.

    • @renaisnisbett
      @renaisnisbett 3 года назад +1

      @Vic Birth What about jobs that say you need a degree in Computer Science or Internet Application Development, but you can clearly do it on your own(e.g. WordPress, Git, JavaScript, React)?

    • @spbspb2413
      @spbspb2413 2 года назад +12

      Yeah, it's their job to refuse you, not yours to refuse yourself. Apply and see what happens.

  • @gabriellucena6583
    @gabriellucena6583 5 лет назад +216

    Well years of experience are still pretty pointless because we all know they mean "years of experience you got paid for" and not actual years of experience.

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 лет назад +29

      Lololol

    • @Ravenex2
      @Ravenex2 3 года назад +1

      I got experience getting bag. rflmao

    • @youtubeshadowbannedme
      @youtubeshadowbannedme 3 года назад +11

      lol my volunteer experience still ended up landing me interviews somehow

    • @lucyliang3
      @lucyliang3 3 года назад +2

      Exactly 😅

  • @m.wilkinson9559
    @m.wilkinson9559 5 лет назад +95

    You're so right Josh.
    I was spamming out applications if I even thought I had a chance of getting the interview. At the end of the day applying is exposure.
    I got a job today that I applied for a week ago. I hadn't even read the job posting until I was invited for an interview, and I was applying pretty consistently for about 3 weeks though I was doing applications since November last year.
    Anyways the job wanted 1 year of php and wordpress experience, jquery and ajax. I had zero experience with jquery, ajax and wordpress development and yet they saw potential in me.

    • @StoicTaste
      @StoicTaste 4 года назад +7

      how is your job going?

  • @TheChiefwiggy
    @TheChiefwiggy 5 лет назад +173

    How are there no comments about these wonderful dogs. They are precious.

    • @fannisomodi8620
      @fannisomodi8620 5 лет назад +9

      i was thinking the same. 14/10 would hire them. Good talk, doggos --> not the content we deserve, but the content we need

    • @void970t5
      @void970t5 4 года назад +2

      Probably because people that come for these videos come for his actual not for the background

  • @lilacspooge
    @lilacspooge 3 года назад +53

    As a hiring manager in a previous role, this is correct. If we get 5 applicants that have “experience” we’re likely to interview them first (if the rest of the cv is not crap). If we don’t find someone suitable we’ll go to the applicants without the experience... in my years of hiring I’ve hired on potential 75% of the time...only once it was a mistake. If you chose not to apply, you’ve made the decision not to hire you for us

  • @healthguy79
    @healthguy79 4 года назад +400

    I flat out lied on my resume saying I can do everything they asked for. Created fake 5 years experience for what they looked for from a company that recently liquidated so they could not verify my experience. Reason for leaving on my resume: Company liquidated after 5 years. They hired me. Yes I lied but I knew nobody gave a damn about me and I did what I had to do to get hired.

  • @JonScott9013
    @JonScott9013 5 лет назад +166

    When I was a recruiter we never compared someone's resume to the job "requirements". If the resume looked right (usually based off of some misinformed subjective criteria we think the hiring manager wants), we move it along, otherwise we'd decline

    • @cristina5473
      @cristina5473 5 лет назад +4

      Great info thanks

    • @amyyaku5022
      @amyyaku5022 5 лет назад +1

      Subjective as in knowing the "new" tech like React or something like a college degree?

    • @petelee2477
      @petelee2477 4 года назад +8

      So what criteria are you looking for

  • @elicastle93
    @elicastle93 Год назад +32

    Literally everything he said is almost exactly how I got my first job applied to be a graphic designer had a tiny bit of 3D modeling experience. Got hired as a graphic designer 6 months later got moved the 3D modeling. I literally was learning on the job spent extra time trying to get better at that and my boss noticed and moved me into that position literally learned on the job and over time was given bigger projects. Hard work and luck really play a big role in your career.

  • @mehregankbi
    @mehregankbi 5 лет назад +204

    Joshua: apply anyway.
    HRs: so you’ve chosen death

    • @carldrogo9492
      @carldrogo9492 3 года назад +2

      You lose nothing by getting rejected.

    • @shaanemillat
      @shaanemillat 11 месяцев назад

      @@carldrogo9492 INCORRECT. You lose your life through days.

    • @dhenderson1810
      @dhenderson1810 6 месяцев назад

      ​@carldrogo9492 Your pride and will to live once you get hundreds of rejections.

    • @avgenjy
      @avgenjy 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@dhenderson1810 why will you be so affected by that tho, the economy is sht enough to feel fucked
      those rejections are close to NOTHING

  • @weepingangel6805
    @weepingangel6805 5 лет назад +257

    The only problem with this is if you're going through an external recruiter they won't pass on your CV to the company unless you fit most, if not all, the requirements. Trust me, I've worked in a recruitment firm. They lack empathy and are certainly not interested in looking at your potential - only what you've already achieved. Nasty people.

    • @sqfzerzefsdf
      @sqfzerzefsdf 5 лет назад +17

      @Weeping Angel depends on how much time they have to find someone. if a company has an open position then they clearly NEED someone to fill that position, HR can't endlessly deny people. you're out of luck if they find someone who checks more boxes though

    • @jakster16
      @jakster16 5 лет назад +25

      Don't forget the ATS that basically sends all resumes that don't pass its filter to the abyss.

    • @TheMatjo
      @TheMatjo 5 лет назад +34

      I applied for a gamedev job once through an external recruiter and we were on the phone for about 40mins. She was explaining me what to fix on my CV letter in order for the target company to accept my CV from them. After about 2-3months of silence i received an email saying i was not selected

    • @beautifullytextured6136
      @beautifullytextured6136 3 года назад +16

      External recruiters should be the last resort due to what was stated above and typically lower pay

    • @carldrogo9492
      @carldrogo9492 3 года назад +1

      @@jakster16 what's ATS?

  • @user-hw9fr4fr6q
    @user-hw9fr4fr6q 3 года назад +240

    Why tell yourself you aren't qualified? That's their job, let them determine your qualifications.

  • @domq9002
    @domq9002 5 лет назад +62

    This is spot on. Also, the part about "senior" people who still suck at their job. At first in my job I was wondering how come some people there know less after a few years than I did after 4 months. Now I know. In some companies experience mesasured by time spent is a fetish.

  • @jamesborgan9453
    @jamesborgan9453 4 года назад +124

    The requirements are not to weed out skills, it is to justify offering the candidiate less compensation.

  • @Noobularr
    @Noobularr 5 лет назад +228

    Thanks for making all these different videos on shit job listings, resumes, and portfolios etc. its definitely pulling me out of my own impostor syndrome I've created for myself thinking that, without a degree I wouldn't even be thought about, even though i'm only 21 and have been programming for over a decade lol. much appreciated :)

    • @iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth
      @iAlwaysSpeakTheTruth 5 лет назад +18

      Employers are unrealistic.

    • @benjaminschultz6501
      @benjaminschultz6501 3 года назад +2

      I have a communication degree and want to get into web development, lol. Degrees don't matter that much man. You can do anything you put your mind to. BTW it's been a year. How's your progress?

  • @joshuac9805
    @joshuac9805 2 года назад +57

    This is true for other fields as well. While going to school for business I applied for an HVAC service tech position at a company a friend worked at. Normally you start in the install dept & move up to service. The listing asked for 3+ years, I had no trade school, no experience, didn’t even know what direction to put filters in. They hired me & trained me, all while making very good money. You never know.

    • @bendutta8135
      @bendutta8135 2 года назад +2

      How’s the pay? I hear HVAC is good money because so many broken AC’s out there

    • @picklerix6162
      @picklerix6162 Год назад +3

      HVAC companies are desperate to hire hard workers. Most companies require EPA certification and want experience. Installers can make a lot of money but the work is very hard and helpers don’t make much.
      A few reasons that I got out of HVACR are low pay, lousy working hours, subpar benefits, and super hot attics. I am currently making over six times my best year of working overtime in HVACR. STEM degrees pay off.

  • @LobsterFusion
    @LobsterFusion 4 года назад +165

    Can confirm. I mean I’m blue collar, but I applied for hazardous waste disposal years ago. A job requirement was chemistry education from college but I’m only high school. I applied, told them I don’t have the education but willing to learn the required knowledge and skill sets. I got the job.
    The job sucked big time. But I got it. Yay me.

  • @jonnyboy0127
    @jonnyboy0127 4 года назад +362

    My job requires a masters in engineering.
    I have a hs diploma.
    All it took was going to the interview and show you're committed.
    Been there 4 years now

    • @NDSMD
      @NDSMD 4 года назад +12

      This works for me as well.

    • @KeepItFresh02
      @KeepItFresh02 4 года назад +46

      that didnt work for me. I applied to the position, got an email to confirm questions. One was do you have a masters in Computer Science. I put yes. I got a phone call in like 3 minutes. The guy was like uhh you say you have a masters in computer science? I said no, but that doesnt matter for Front End Development, or my ability to build software. He replied oh no no no but its just the requirement. Someone will get back with you. I never heard from them again.

    • @beautifullytextured6136
      @beautifullytextured6136 3 года назад +51

      @@KeepItFresh02 probably someone from HR and not an actual developer

    • @LuminousWhispers11
      @LuminousWhispers11 3 года назад +51

      @@KeepItFresh02 Technically you shouldn't have put yes to the answer but they also should have been transparent that you wouldn't be heading back from them.

    • @thisdude1286
      @thisdude1286 3 года назад +4

      No fucking way

  • @AnthonyMcqueen1987
    @AnthonyMcqueen1987 5 лет назад +413

    Job requirements for most software jobs these days are a joke, they want to look for that "perfect" candidate which does not exist this is just HR once again does not know what they are doing and what the requirements are for a certain job.
    They blow these requirements out of proportion to scare off most people who graduated from college who dont have all those luxuries they are endlessly searching for its pathetic.
    Keep exposing the corporate BS these companies push out Josh.

    • @Dxpress_
      @Dxpress_ 5 лет назад +23

      I couldn't count the amount of "backend web developer" positions listing frontend web-dev and/or database requirements in my searches.
      Basically, they're looking for full-stack devs, but don't want to say that so they can pay less.

    • @lestat1591
      @lestat1591 5 лет назад +26

      My dad has been in the IT business for 30 years and he hate HR when they post for jobs because they have no idea what they’re talking about. Like a JR position for 5 years experience. He was in a interview and they were talking about pay and they said 40k and my dad say “um..yeah that job requires at least 3x that”. They were shocked and said they couldn’t pay that much and my dad walks out saying good luck

    • @Greatanotherchannel
      @Greatanotherchannel 5 лет назад +5

      Watching the videos the last week it really shows how out touch hr departments are and how damaging it is

    • @jakster16
      @jakster16 5 лет назад +7

      Its not software jobs. Many jobs, including non-stem, want applicants to be ponies that can do anything and everything.

    • @michalyne
      @michalyne 5 лет назад +7

      The best part is they blow off qualified candidates because they don't have some obscure skill that most IT could simply look up and figure it out.

  • @shyam5631
    @shyam5631 5 лет назад +53

    That's exactly how i got my dream job day before yesterday. I told them everything i knew about programming and technologies. They hired me and put me on a training program.

  • @liteoner
    @liteoner 5 лет назад +65

    Totally agree, it's up to the employer to decide whether you're a good candidate, NOT YOU. You might be the exact type of person they're looking for even though you don't tick every box on the job description. Apply and see what happens. I'm leading the hiring process for a position and I haven't even looked at our own job description. If we think someone is good we'll bring them in, period.

    • @petelee2477
      @petelee2477 3 года назад +12

      My question is why do they call them requirements if they aren't actually required? The dictionary defined requirement as a need as in can't perform the job without.

  • @AvocadoAtrocity
    @AvocadoAtrocity 5 лет назад +59

    I'm helping people apply for jobs right now. I've been saying the exact same stuff. I sent them this video as well.

    • @kav2000
      @kav2000 5 лет назад

      I dropped out of school and is it okay if I lie and apply to a certificate requirement?

    • @mycelia_ow
      @mycelia_ow 5 лет назад +1

      @@kav2000 yes as long as they never find out ;)

  • @MikaelAbehsera
    @MikaelAbehsera 5 лет назад +251

    That gun is joshes weapon of choice when hunting for corporate cringe

  • @wuyev
    @wuyev 5 лет назад +183

    One of my friends who just got out of a bootcamp got a sr position... cause he created an llc and said he worked as a dev for 3 years at his own llc

    • @JoshuaFluke1
      @JoshuaFluke1  5 лет назад +92

      Hustle

    • @wuyev
      @wuyev 5 лет назад +69

      @@JoshuaFluke1 lol yea the dude photoshopped an offer letter and created pay stubs for when they would do a background check! He was ofcourse also a good developer as well, since he passed the interview.

    • @JSpradley123
      @JSpradley123 4 года назад +8

      Wuyev that’s next level haha

    • @PwnUrBadCock
      @PwnUrBadCock 4 года назад +16

      @@wuyev just proves again that 3 years of experience in the field doesn't mean anything.

    • @wuyev
      @wuyev 4 года назад +1

      @@PwnUrBadCock its weird man no two exp will be the same.. idk if cognizant cares or whats up with them.

  • @johndough8699
    @johndough8699 5 лет назад +115

    I realized this when I helped my manager write the job requirements to replace my team lead. He had no idea why my team lead did. Then, instead of listening to my advice, he stressed stupid things like “DVD menu authoring”. I asked my TL about it, and he said he only had to do that maybe twice in the five years he was there. I pointed their out to my manager, but he just shot me down. What a fool.

    • @jjQlLlLq
      @jjQlLlLq 5 лет назад +4

      Goddamn I'd be so tempted to smack his damn stupid face or speak sarcasmnese in full volume

  • @YTUser_999
    @YTUser_999 2 года назад +9

    Josh spitting facts as usual haha. This is why I subbed to Josh. He's very blunt and upfront about whatever he says.

  • @aidrislash908
    @aidrislash908 5 лет назад +47

    I emailed Joshua about basically the same thing a few hours before he uploaded the video and I'm not sure if this was his response to the email, but I must say that I am impressed either way haha!

  • @mikebulmer9823
    @mikebulmer9823 2 года назад +10

    This is some insanely good advice, especially for someone who is trying to learn on his own and get into this field. I loved the "I'm willing to learn if you'll let me"

  • @crissaegrim7419
    @crissaegrim7419 4 года назад +23

    I needed this. Thank you Joshua. This might get lost in the comment section but I hope you read it when I sincerely say that you deserve the best in life. Thank you for the lessons you've given us.

  • @akeem2752
    @akeem2752 2 года назад +19

    I went to school for graphic design, the professor was about 70 at the time and had little experience with adobe software. I came in first week helping him out and giving otter students advice.

    • @dreamingscarlettm5415
      @dreamingscarlettm5415 Год назад

      I know it's just a typo, but I can't get over the picture of you lecturing a class of otters. How cute ^^

  • @duthegee
    @duthegee 3 года назад +55

    1:50
    I applied for a job that said '5 years of experience in relevant field' with just 1 year of experience. Once I started working there, it was just people with decades of 'experience' who couldn't figure out how to run the numbers in Excel and would take all day to do tasks I can do in 30 minutes.

  • @wuyev
    @wuyev 5 лет назад +16

    Yea... I agree with you now. A lot of these requirements are bullshit, iv had recruiters tell me to just lie about my exp.... its fucked up out here

  • @GrandpasPlace
    @GrandpasPlace 5 лет назад +58

    I endorse this message lol
    When I was starting out, I listed the stuff I was doing at home. I made sure to say it was hobby, personal, etc. I would get the interview by expressing my interest in learning.
    Back then (before the internet) I had a list of 300 local companies, the name of the IT manager, and the fax number. At night I would load fax software and let it fax my resume and cover letter to each number. It could do about 100 a night (old land line phone) By the end of the fax run I would have 4 or 5 interviews and one or two would make an offer.
    Though it is an old method, companies still have fax lines and many times the fax is computer-processed and emailed to the recipient. My experience is that even today the manager will open and check an emailed fax where they may ignore normal emails. ;)

  • @melliemu123
    @melliemu123 Год назад +11

    I agree with all of this. There have also been gender differences discovered in this phenomenon as well. There was a study done that concluded that women will often only apply for positions they feel they are 100% qualified for, whereas men will apply for positions they feel they are 60% qualified for. No matter your gender though, this is all solid advice. Thank you for this video!

  • @hoichiemf2431
    @hoichiemf2431 4 года назад +11

    Exactly what I need rn, I have been looking for a real job for 5 months, which drives me crazy. I am either upset or getting bored, I just feel a sense of incapability and disappointment, I think I am suffering mental breakdown. Thanks for your encouragement

  • @JuanFlores-be8sl
    @JuanFlores-be8sl 2 года назад +12

    Man I’m literally applying for senior dev roles with jr experience. Take notes learn the tech stack you’re applying for. Keep notes handy. I also have a senior web dev walking me through the process. I’m using his resume and I’m the one doing the interviews. It’s all about connections baby

  • @cricket62200962
    @cricket62200962 5 лет назад +137

    Haha, perfect timing. I've been applying to jobs like crazy this week, I make sure I see "React Front End" and that's all I need to know to apply. I don't read anything else because it's all bullshit.
    7 years of experience? For a FRONT END REACT DEVELOPER? No.

    • @SeanWashPhoto
      @SeanWashPhoto 5 лет назад +13

      Lol, has React been a thing long enough for that!

    • @dityadion249
      @dityadion249 4 года назад +24

      I read 2 years flutter experience. But, Flutter released 1 year ago

    • @ashes.a5865
      @ashes.a5865 4 года назад +3

      Bro same boat

    • @carldrogo9492
      @carldrogo9492 3 года назад

      😂

  • @Monarch_943
    @Monarch_943 5 лет назад +54

    The dog is like "my poor hooman talking to weird object"

    • @pauljordan4452
      @pauljordan4452 4 года назад +2

      I hate this broken canine English.

  • @dabda8510
    @dabda8510 5 лет назад +186

    The HR and hiring managers will be unhappy that they are getting flooded with applications from people, where most are unqualified, like by a lot.
    But they (HR and hiring managers and owners and investors) really brought it on themselves. They want maximum return with minimal investment.

    • @FirstLast-hm8oz
      @FirstLast-hm8oz 5 лет назад +11

      Right ! Calculate ! There are 200 firms which each offer 1 job and 200 applicants writing to all firms. This becomes 200x200= 40000 applications for still 200 jobs. So they dispose 40000-200=39800 folders. What a desaster for the environment this has been when we did this with paper applications in the past. I heard BMW received 6000 applications (paper) for only one job once.

    • @freshswagga100
      @freshswagga100 4 года назад +15

      I mean those pencil pushers in HR are getting paid to do something.

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile Год назад +2

      I saw 1 recent high end bar tender job that included a brief timed-⏱️ test, review of drinks, liquors, equipment questions. You can't fake your way thru that! Lol. 😆

  • @TGameDev
    @TGameDev 5 лет назад +42

    Only time i caught a bit of grief was when i applied to a place that was hell bent on their front end dev's having a bachelors degree. Had certifications and a portfolio but the HR lady was hung up on that one meaningless bullet point. Came to find out it was a very toxic place to work (leadership, not so much colleagues) later on so, guess it all makes sense in the end haha

  • @CommandoMaster
    @CommandoMaster 4 года назад +11

    This video has been very valuable. Always try to apply even if you don't meet the requirements. Better to take a shot than not take the chance.

  • @christianjamesguevarra6257
    @christianjamesguevarra6257 5 лет назад +79

    Im going to REQUIRE (as if its a matter of life and death situation) my IT students to binge watch your videos at least before graduation if ever I become part time programming professor at a uni.

  • @sohailsaha7427
    @sohailsaha7427 3 года назад +11

    Hey Josh, thanks for making a video explaining this. I see job posts for entry level positions requiring 3 years experience, and that's absolutely bonkers, but I never applied to them thinking that I won't even get noticed. But now, I am gonna do it.

  • @sunitachopra1148
    @sunitachopra1148 2 года назад +3

    Very uplifting video. Gets us started . Removes gumption traps . Amazing never before seen content. Keep up the good work

  • @matthewtucker5439
    @matthewtucker5439 5 лет назад +6

    I like this style of video. I love how the video jumps from here to here. It’s energizing and exciting to watch.

  • @mythic414
    @mythic414 3 года назад +9

    Thank you for this video! I've been struggling with imposter syndrome when applying for jobs and this gave me the push I needed to just go for it

  • @ana.78623
    @ana.78623 3 года назад +9

    That's a good point. I was dreaming about working as a Salesforce consultant for so long and I didn't feel safe to apply for the job positions, but when I finally decided to do it I received a lot of good feedbacks and job opportunities. It took me 3 years to land my dream job and now I think I didn't have to wait so long.

  • @Puchitosama
    @Puchitosama Год назад +5

    This never worked for me. Out of ~200 applications, the few jobs that interviewed me had low requirements and/or asked or recent graduates but they're rare.

  • @morenokv
    @morenokv 5 лет назад +17

    Perfect timing!

  • @mlktss245
    @mlktss245 3 года назад +10

    That is literally how I got my current role. With zero to little experience in IT, I got the role as a system engineer because they liked my experience with problem solving skills and good communication with various status of people

  • @joshuareed8243
    @joshuareed8243 Год назад +13

    A lot of those requirements are meant to keep people away that don't think they can do it, same with the "x years of experience needed." It's to scare people away more than anything.

    • @TheRecklessMetalhead
      @TheRecklessMetalhead 2 месяца назад

      I was one of those people who had been fooled by those requirements. :(

  • @DarthShadie
    @DarthShadie Год назад +5

    It's the same with retail or call centres. My first time at either of those I had to learn the ropes. I wasn't better at either type of job with more experience or worse without it, because retail chocolates is different to retail clothes. Each place is different. If you can adapt to the shop's unique requirements, then you're good without experience. Requirements: Ability to adapt.

  • @victorial5494
    @victorial5494 2 года назад +13

    I've gotten jobs that I had no experience in merly because I applied and thought the worst they could say was no. It's a great feeling when someone else can see something special in you and give you an opportunity.
    Go for great opportunities the worst someone could do is say no.

  • @jsttv
    @jsttv Год назад +4

    Applied for a job that required Linux, and Windows experience. I only had Windows experience, but I got the job anyway. Just apply.

  • @dizat64
    @dizat64 2 года назад +4

    I just quit a job that offered me ZERO training and expected me to have deliverables for a project on my 3rd day while I still did not have access to my email or the system in question. SMH

  • @albertstein7433
    @albertstein7433 3 года назад +2

    Joshua - this is the best job landing advice I have ever seen on youtube!!! Thank you so much!

  • @LuisPerez-tv7mr
    @LuisPerez-tv7mr 3 года назад +8

    Thank you so much for these videos. I have been interviewing a lot but I feel like I’m not good at explaining why I qualify for roles. I’m confident in my skills but being to communicate is another thing. This gives me a good perspective on what I should try.

  • @jrfw96
    @jrfw96 Год назад +6

    I applied for a job in a national park. I thought i was terribly underqualified. I got the job i wanted, there was originally 1 position but they ended up hiring 2 people. The other guy who got the job has a degree, i do not. We are on the same salary, doing the same job. He has a degree and a lot of debt, i dont. Its crazy what you can get if you give yourself a chance

  • @the95effect
    @the95effect 5 лет назад +10

    Definitely inspired me, will be taking this with me for my journey into IT, thanks bro

  • @Applefablestudio
    @Applefablestudio 4 месяца назад +1

    thank you! This made me feel much more confident applying for jobs even though I didn't have alot of experience required. I always get stumped. Will be applying to jobs again and not giving up.

  • @mowgaz3439
    @mowgaz3439 4 года назад +5

    I’m so glad I discovered Joshua‘s channel. You help me so much becoming confident to apply for it jobs and becoming a better dev overall.

  • @braedondavies9592
    @braedondavies9592 3 года назад +3

    Very insightful thoughts. I never thought of using that key phrase to see if employers will hire you for a similar position.

  • @blueoak5262
    @blueoak5262 2 года назад +6

    Job applicant: How can someone gain experience if they don't have experience for this entry-level job?
    Company: I don't know, f off
    Job applicant: But how can an entry-level job be entry-level if it requires experience?
    Company: I said f off

  • @JohnVianneyPatron
    @JohnVianneyPatron Год назад +14

    "It makes sense to go after candidates with 6 months to a year's experience. It takes that long to internalise the idioms, learn how things work, understand the relevant tools etc. But after that the curve flattens out. There's suprisingly little difference between a candidate with 6 month's experience and one with 6 years" - ReWork. Fried, J and Hannsson, D.H. (2010) [Currency - Crown Publishing].

  • @koroshiya_1
    @koroshiya_1 4 года назад +6

    Thanks, man! This advice has given me a lot of hope 🙏. Stay killing it.

  • @dhenderson1810
    @dhenderson1810 6 месяцев назад +2

    If you are called overqualified, apply to a competitor company.
    The first company will wish that they had hired you as their business goes down while their competitor thrives because of you.

  • @cgme7076
    @cgme7076 4 года назад +15

    Hiring processes are a *huge* Catch-22.
    “Entry Level developer:
    Requirements:
    BA in Computer Science or something similar.
    Two to three years of experience in the field.”
    To get the job I need experience -> To get experience I need this specific job -> To get the job I need experience.
    This forces us to lie about experience.

    • @jessr1698
      @jessr1698 3 года назад +1

      Or just get an internship and drop the intern part of the job title

  • @kielhawkins9529
    @kielhawkins9529 2 года назад +4

    This is how I got my MIS Director position. Short of Director level leadership experience I felt like I hit everything else they were asking for and during the interviews just took what other leadership experience I had and applied it to the questions they asked. Been a great job ever since.

  • @byrontaylor2378
    @byrontaylor2378 3 года назад +14

    I can vouch for Joshua's advice. Our lab is looking for two technicians. Our job posting on Indeed specifies 3 to 5 years of experience. However we ARE willing to consider someone fresh out of school if we think they're a fast learner.

  • @cloutsect8951
    @cloutsect8951 5 лет назад +3

    Great value here! I need to think more like this when it comes to companies. Sometimes they're more open minded than we think so its best to reach out anyway because we don't know exactly what they want and sometimes they don't know what they want so just spark the conversation and apply anyway

  • @tabithaalphess2115
    @tabithaalphess2115 3 года назад +10

    I actually did this when I was getting my first real job in retail. They had a bunch of things on the application that it said I needed, and I wasn't sure I met all the requirements. But I applied anyway, got the job, and within half a year, I was considered one of the best workers in the store. Sometimes, it's ok just to roll the dice and see what happens

  • @franciscofuentes8916
    @franciscofuentes8916 5 лет назад +2

    I needed to hear you many years ago when I was still studying. No one mentored me like this before. Thank you so much.

  • @The6Foot4Asian
    @The6Foot4Asian Год назад +9

    When looking at requirements, they are listed in order of importance. If there’s 5 and you have the top 2 and none of the bottom 3, you’d be a solid candidate. Also don’t forget they interviews also assess if you’d be a good culture fit (if they know what they’re doing)

  • @rookless4121
    @rookless4121 2 года назад +1

    Yeah, I tend to psych ourselves out of trying for better positions. I just gotta get used to putting myself out there with more confidence.

  • @TheVerbalAxiom
    @TheVerbalAxiom 5 лет назад +44

    4:08 That corperate voice is hilarious lmao

    • @jimson172
      @jimson172 5 лет назад +1

      Not a bad line, either!

  • @constantin4128
    @constantin4128 8 месяцев назад +1

    Super valuable I love you man

  • @Kumar_honey
    @Kumar_honey 4 года назад +8

    You got so much of information and knowledge, even your dogs are ready to apply for junior developer.

  • @elymX
    @elymX Год назад +2

    I applied for a role where they require a excellent skills in Excel, during interview I told I'm not a fucking expert but I sure do know how to find the right answer. Thankfully I got hired.

  • @healthguy79
    @healthguy79 4 года назад +65

    I once got a "regret" email wishing me well and I replied back saying they'll regret not hiring me so they replied back saying they'll give me a shot and I got the job.

    • @bigman8130
      @bigman8130 3 года назад +26

      Alex, give me this didn’t happen for 2000 please

    • @johnjohnson3390
      @johnjohnson3390 3 года назад +6

      This didnt happen

    • @bigman8130
      @bigman8130 3 года назад +1

      @@johnjohnson3390 fax

    • @alextl97
      @alextl97 3 года назад +7

      National inventographic

    • @carldrogo9492
      @carldrogo9492 3 года назад

      BH Please! 😭😂😂😂

  • @hopemoore
    @hopemoore 3 года назад +2

    These videos are good pep talks for people like me. Thanks for making these.

  • @aneeketlandepatil8432
    @aneeketlandepatil8432 4 года назад +4

    Thanks a lot Josh!!! It reduces my insecurities and depression by a lot. I am currently unemployed that's why I come to the youtube to watch the video. I feel like I am at the right place.

    • @sarahjessicatamon7083
      @sarahjessicatamon7083 Год назад

      How is it now, did you finally get a job after following his advice?

  • @katec9893
    @katec9893 Год назад +1

    This just came up in my RUclips feed as if by magic, because its what I needed to hear. I have a lot of experience but in a few different sectors. I have a tendency to assume I'm not qualified enough for a job so don't apply. I'm going to be job hunting again soon so I will remember to apply to any job that I have some/most but not necessarily all of the skills for.