Something I like to point out. Knuckles doesn't call Classic Sonic fat anymore, but Classic Sonic rubbing his belly during that cutscene is unchanged. Since Knuckles asks him where the rest of Angel island is, it looks like Classic Sonic ate the island. 😂
@@cozmactudioz9924 Nah, mainline Mario games are the bare minimum of story. But I agree that it wasn't the most complex either. If you ask me, Dark Beginnings is insanely more complex and well-written than the actual game.
Sonic: Reunited with his friends and fought his arch nemesis, the original version of Metal Sonic, and a water god who he has defeated before Shadow: Reunited with beings from his past who are long dead and fought his alien warlord arch nemesis, the most powerful version of Metal Sonic, and a time god who doesn’t even exist anymore
Sonic also fought Silver, Shadow and a time monster in his Super Form along with his classic self. And Shadow also fought his older brother, the Biolizard.
Actually, Forces also remakes Grand Metropolis from Sonic Heroes, meaning there are only 3 original zones. City, Mystic Jungle and Eggman Empire Fortress. City probably being the most memorable one, that's why it was chosen, probably.
@rafaelpereiragomes1735 No metropolis isn't actually a remake of the Heroes stage. It just shares a similar name. Like Sonic 2 metropolis.. and however many metropolis stages there are in other classic games
Also metropolis isn't quite as iconic since it wasn't the main marketing piece.. but it's still pretty much just as loved. It's even been used to represent the series in things like the Olympic games
"It's a Sonic game, I'm not here for a compelling story" Oh man, that's a divisive take ...from Adventure up until Colors that was a major part of them, and the series is going back to that direction too with Frontiers and Shadow Gens
You say its weird that Tails doesn't remember the Chemical Plant but then he says "This is defiantly the Chemical Plant" which you didn't mention. Tails was more unsure in the original so this version fixes it
1:20 The fandom complains about her being annoying because she likes Sonic too much and when SEGA listens and changes that they stay mad because she doesn't like Sonic too much.
@@bland9876man you didn't even play the game bro if you didn't play a game yet then don't form an opinion on it like I havent played sonic unleashed yet tho i havent formed and opinion on the werehog cause ive only played the daytime stages through the unleashed project like bro dont state an opinion if yoy havent even tried the game
Nathaniel Bandy in 2021: "Seaside Hill is an okay Sonic Heroes pick, but why not something more interesting like Hang Castle, Rail Canyon, or Grand Metropolis?" 2024: Rail Canyon is in Sonic X Shadow Generations
I really wish Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) got an actual level representation. I really wanted to see Black Comet get redone like the 06 levels have. It also would have been cook to see Black Bull return.
@@legojarjarbinks2564 That's just a cope out. SA2 also got Radical Highway. STH 2005 got nothing in terms of level representation that is unique to it.
@ivoryquillum4436 I say the general vibe of the game and the story are what was brought into the game. You get to fight Devil Doom for crying out loud. How much more representation do you need?
@@legojarjarbinks2564 Black Comet, and that's not an excuse when you have Metal Overlord and the Biolizard in the game that have levels from their respective games. C'mon, even Sonic Frontiers got level representation, and Shadow wasn't even in there.
I'm enjoying it so far. I do wish it could be a little bit longer with an extra stage or two. Its very well polished and yeah those cutscenes are awesome
Imma be honest, instead of the two tails saying they are traveling through time and space, and just time, only for Sonic to mention "without the Time Stones?" Is such a weird callback.
You know what's weird? The drop dash is a toggleable skill for Classic Sonic, but it's part of Modern Sonic's default moveset. Honestly I wish it were flipped around, I always like the drop dash on for Classic but with Modern it ends up happening when I don't want it to and I roll off platforms to my death often.
To me, there are more changes that I dislike than I actually do like because some of the scenes don't make sense now, though I'm indifferent towards most of the new dialogue and scenes
1:58 but still left in the skills for EXTRA LIVES 3:55 When both Sonics team up for the final boss, let's just say you missed another Sonic 4 reference
4:50 I’m assuming when ypu were making a bit when talking about the spike ability and the platforms on planet wisp cause… you know you can spin dash with the spike ability still especially on the gears… and you can boost on the platforms so you can get to where you want to go faster… right?
I keep noticing that Nathaniel call, shadow generations dlc, but it's actually the main part of the game, they just bundled a remaster of Sonic generations with it
Metal Overlord wasn't the only Sonic Heroes boss to appear in Generations. The Egg Emperor appeared in the 3DS port of the original game, along with the Biolizard and Big Arms bosses. I understand why the 3DS would have a reduced number of levels but even there it has a completely different level set including Emerald Coast, Mushroom Hill, Radical Highway, Casino Night, Water Palace from Sonic Rush and Tropical Resort. Sega should add them into Sonic Generations & Shadow as a DLC.
I beg to differ about amy because she was annoying asf being so unnecessarily clingy twords sonic and all of the characters were dying of dementia in the OG version. Also the sonic fight isn't a adventure 2 reference, its at the point where you reach the shadow boss fight in sonic generations. i love mario 3d world/bowsers fury and i think it did the 3d aspect better in general, but sonic x shadow generations smokes it 😭
2 things as of when i typed this comment: 1. not even a few weeks and there's already mods. 2. the drop dash was in a mod for classic sonic in the 2011 version and was added for modern sonic in the 2024 version and for shadow as a mod.
Shadow doesn't need wings. He has air shoes and when he came out of his thing in SA2 he Flys up to get the surface with Eggman with his air shoes and then after that 1 cutscene they never brought it up again
The drop dash is also useless since you can't use it to climb slopes and it doesn't give that big of a boost, and for modern sonic it's useless since you have the boost.
If I may he was in fact playable as dlc and after completing it you can play sunset hights as shadow so it kinda makes it part of shadows history of games
Something I can’t understand is why Classic Sonic’s Dropdash is an equitable skill, meaning it can’t be used in Challenges, but Modern Sonic’s Dropdash is just built into his move-set???
The reason they made Kingdom Valley from 06 is probably because Shadow in 06 was PEAK! And I'd also would love to see 06 getting remaked or a Sonic Movie about 06
Few things i want to say: 2:49 thats called a game mechanic my friend. Just like how classic sonic can actually go to the past and future, but not in the games. And super sonic can last up to 2 weeks accoording to either sonic advance 2 or 3. 3:42 sega didnt choose what stages were coming to generations, they made a poll on their account(it was either facebook or twitter), and asked what the fans favourite stages were. 8:14 apperently, eggman left them in the void, and then they got in the white space(as of how im understanding it) 11:10 THAT ISNT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE HIS NAME
One of my only complaints about Shadow Generations is the fact that there is no dedicated level from the Shadow the Hedgehog game. Like, technically Space Colony ARK, but can we really count that stage? That stage feels more like Shadow's home than a stage from any one particular game at this point. One of the biggest reasons this is an issue for me is because they have a Sonic Frontiers stage in the game. Shadow isn't even in that game. They could have dedicated time to include an extra stage in Sonic Generations to include Frontiers, while making a Shadow the Hedgehog stage for Shadow's game.
technically we could also have gotten Luminous Forest or Mortar Canyon for Forces but those stages looked ugly visually so I’m glad they went with Sunset Heights
Something I like to point out. Knuckles doesn't call Classic Sonic fat anymore, but Classic Sonic rubbing his belly during that cutscene is unchanged. Since Knuckles asks him where the rest of Angel island is, it looks like Classic Sonic ate the island. 😂
Mmmmmm tasty
🤣💀
I guess classic sonic is the island eater why wasn't he the final boss?
“I eated it.”
We always wondered what war crimes Santiago committed to get his reputation. Now we know
"I'm not here for a compelling story"
Shadow generations has entered the chat.
Literally.
Our summoner has left the chat
Em actually when something is slightly family friendly it shouldn't have lore 🤓
Story pretty mid to me. It was the bare minnimum for not forgetting human emotions but didn't do much with bring black doom, maria, and gerald back.
@@cozmactudioz9924 Nah, mainline Mario games are the bare minimum of story. But I agree that it wasn't the most complex either. If you ask me, Dark Beginnings is insanely more complex and well-written than the actual game.
5:42 tea-D? (2D)
9:14 Lost Kingdom? (Kingdom valley)
11:12 meh files? (Mephiles)
Those files are meh but i like mephiles
HIS NAME IS MEMPHIS TENNESSEE AND HE IS PART LIZARD!
To be fair i used to think mephiles was pronounced that way too lol
"Mefiles" that's how he pronounces his name, this is the first ever guy to pronounce his name wrong
Sonic Central once pronounced it as "Mefiles"
This is also the same guy who pronounces the word "melee" May-Lee
@@pvzmariosonica8fanI thought that’s how you pronounced it. It’s sounds weird saying Me-lee
@@Brrrchillz24 It's May-Lay
I pronouce it as meefiles
"No compelling story"
"Lost kingdom"
"Sunset heights = aqua road"
"Meph-files"
11:12 *M E F I L E S* 😂
what's next?
Medownloads?
Medesktop?
Me'homeworkfolder'
Memphis, Tennessee
@@competitivedishwasher6579 wut?
He doesn't know
@@competitivedishwasher6579 Bro doesn't have a sick gamer pad where gets tilted at the tOwErsss
@@Uallysdrgnvevo in reality, it's not tilted *or* a tower
When Sonic said “Enjoy your future it’s going to be great” he wasn’t kidding because the next Classic Sonic game was Mania
@@biodock2003 mania is good though
Edit: sorry misread that as 'was kidding'
Sonic: Reunited with his friends and fought his arch nemesis, the original version of Metal Sonic, and a water god who he has defeated before
Shadow: Reunited with beings from his past who are long dead and fought his alien warlord arch nemesis, the most powerful version of Metal Sonic, and a time god who doesn’t even exist anymore
Sonic also fought Silver, Shadow and a time monster in his Super Form along with his classic self.
And Shadow also fought his older brother, the Biolizard.
"Sunset heights was the only original stage"
Forces had 7 whole zones, 4 of which were entirely unique and the other 3 where fully redone
Plus Sunset Heights is THE promotional stage when Forces was advertised at the time
Actually, Forces also remakes Grand Metropolis from Sonic Heroes, meaning there are only 3 original zones. City, Mystic Jungle and Eggman Empire Fortress. City probably being the most memorable one, that's why it was chosen, probably.
@rafaelpereiragomes1735 No metropolis isn't actually a remake of the Heroes stage.
It just shares a similar name.
Like Sonic 2 metropolis.. and however many metropolis stages there are in other classic games
Also metropolis isn't quite as iconic since it wasn't the main marketing piece.. but it's still pretty much just as loved.
It's even been used to represent the series in things like the Olympic games
4:50 you don’t know you can Spin Dash as the Pink Spikes?
Ain’t that Nathanial b?
Ain't that Sonic d?
SONIC DAVID
Sonic david has writing issues
No
SONIC DAVID HI
Sonic generations: sonic rescues his friends from white space
Shadow generations: B I G T H E C A T
"It's a Sonic game, I'm not here for a compelling story"
Oh man, that's a divisive take
...from Adventure up until Colors that was a major part of them, and the series is going back to that direction too with Frontiers and Shadow Gens
Arguably its been a thing since Sonic 3.
Frontiers story was ass. Full of power of friendship BS
Allot of them tried to be compelling and failed
I play games to play games. Not watch cutscenes
@@cam935n Okay? Some people do play games for the stories.
10:53
Yes please sakurai add shadow to the next smash game. He's one of my most wanted characters, and if he got in, then i would main him
9:14 It's Kingdom Valley
He also said mephiles wrong. It bugs me
@@MrSuperSonic1108 ikr
The way he pronounces mephiles oh my god💀
You say its weird that Tails doesn't remember the Chemical Plant but then he says "This is defiantly the Chemical Plant" which you didn't mention. Tails was more unsure in the original so this version fixes it
Orbot and Shadow have the same VA, so it shouldn't be surprising that Orbot would show up at some point.
they WHAT
Not to mention that he and Shadow share the same voice actor.
Let’s not forget that Bathaniel completely ignored that Cubot was also there
1:20 The fandom complains about her being annoying because she likes Sonic too much and when SEGA listens and changes that they stay mad because she doesn't like Sonic too much.
@@Euro.Patriot can't Please everyone
also i prefer new Amy
A lot of people want compelling stories from Sonic, Nathaniel
Yeah they don't make cutscenes and new characters for nothing....anymore that is
Not here for a compelling story? Sonic adventure 2? Sonic and the black knight? Sonic unleashed? Hello???
Nobody likes wear hog I didn't even need to pick up that game to tell that game was terrible.
@@bland9876 so you didn't play it yet you say it's horrible. nice.
@@bland9876man you didn't even play the game bro if you didn't play a game yet then don't form an opinion on it like I havent played sonic unleashed yet tho i havent formed and opinion on the werehog cause ive only played the daytime stages through the unleashed project like bro dont state an opinion if yoy havent even tried the game
@@bland9876”I complain about video games online that I never played!” -Super Paper Mario
Unleasched Story wasn't that crazy
His pronunciation of Mephiles is killing me
He's so close to calling it Mee-philes like in the Sonic Fandubs.
Quick fact: you can Spindash with the spike wisp😂
Nathaniel Bandy in 2021: "Seaside Hill is an okay Sonic Heroes pick, but why not something more interesting like Hang Castle, Rail Canyon, or Grand Metropolis?"
2024: Rail Canyon is in Sonic X Shadow Generations
I think I would've liked to see Heroes's Casino Zone instead of a Green Hill clone.
@@thecjgameworld4013Yeah…no.
6:04 Timestamp for Bathaniel NANDY
10:47 THATS EXACTLY WHAT IMMEDIATELY WHENT THROUGH MY BRAIN
I really wish Shadow the Hedgehog (2005) got an actual level representation. I really wanted to see Black Comet get redone like the 06 levels have.
It also would have been cook to see Black Bull return.
Technically the space colony is an amalgamation of sa2 and sth
@@legojarjarbinks2564 That's just a cope out. SA2 also got Radical Highway. STH 2005 got nothing in terms of level representation that is unique to it.
@ivoryquillum4436 I say the general vibe of the game and the story are what was brought into the game. You get to fight Devil Doom for crying out loud. How much more representation do you need?
@@legojarjarbinks2564 Black Comet, and that's not an excuse when you have Metal Overlord and the Biolizard in the game that have levels from their respective games. C'mon, even Sonic Frontiers got level representation, and Shadow wasn't even in there.
@ivoryquillum4436 also what boss would you even use for a Shadow stage, we already got Black Doom
This is basically "How Sonic X Shadow Generations Triggers You Part 2" including how its Mindblowing
I mean thats the entire point
2:17 7 Year old me, that's who.
8:00 *'they fly now'*
10:52 YEP, HE HAS NO EXCUSE.
So we’ve combined the Trash videos and the Mind Blowing videos?
I love how sonic gen is like the triggered part and shadow gen is the mind blowing
Oh he brought back the 'how x game triggered you' series but under a new name
Nice
You know someone isn’t very experienced with Sonic when they say it doesn’t have good stories
I'm enjoying it so far. I do wish it could be a little bit longer with an extra stage or two. Its very well polished and yeah those cutscenes are awesome
Who's hyped for the 3rd sonic movie this December?
Nathaniel: There is so much to do in shadow generations!
Also Nathaniel: It felt a little too short
Planet whisps as so many whisps because it's the only time they can use whisps in the game
Yeah, but it only uses 1 type of Wisp for big part of the acts. They could have put some more, maybe Hover and Cube, to mix things up.
Imma be honest, instead of the two tails saying they are traveling through time and space, and just time, only for Sonic to mention "without the Time Stones?" Is such a weird callback.
5:40 “3D and tea-D” good wording Nathaniel :D
The wisp stage is a lot less terrible when you realise you can boost on the gears
Classic Sonic ATE Angel Island??? 😮😮
DLC ideas:
-Westopolis
-Asteroid coaster
-Infinite boss
-knight boss
-Sonic boss
-Skate boost
-Sonic run for terios skin
truly the greatest of Sonic…
“Disgusting black creatures…get out of my sight!”
5:42 “Tee-Dee” 💀
5:56
Sonic Lost World was good. Fight me.
it’s not a bad game at all, people just say it is due to its heavier focus on platforming. The boom games suck though
9:14 lost kingdom? don't you mean kingdom valley lol
Yeah as soon as I saw it I went straight to the comments 😂
Sonic X Shadow Generations & Knuckles
The gem Metal Overlord shoots is a reference to Knuckles Chaotix with one of the bosses being a prism itself, the thing he's shooting at Shadow
Fun Fact, the director for Shadow Generations said that they want to do a Sonic 06 remake in the future.
Sonic Generations is back! Plus, a new game as part of it!
6:51 Well, that DLC level we're getting actually is tied to Sonic Movie 3. An email from the Sonic Newsletter confirmed it.
10:59 That’s ALL you say about frontiers??? Aw man
You know what's weird? The drop dash is a toggleable skill for Classic Sonic, but it's part of Modern Sonic's default moveset. Honestly I wish it were flipped around, I always like the drop dash on for Classic but with Modern it ends up happening when I don't want it to and I roll off platforms to my death often.
4:50 apparently you supposed to spin dash on those gears, that way it wont slow you down as much
Best Sonic game released in YEARS, the fan service, the music, the superb story, it’s everything I wanted
Decades even
@@jasonsmith530No Sonic Mania and Sonic Generations exist
11:13 meh files
7:33 Probably 'cause that's the game Shadow first debuted to this series.
To me, there are more changes that I dislike than I actually do like because some of the scenes don't make sense now, though I'm indifferent towards most of the new dialogue and scenes
Amy not being so flirty kinda feels like a positive character progression. She's learned to be less of an obsessor!
The title is the new way of saying "The Good and Bad of this game"
1:58 but still left in the skills for EXTRA LIVES
3:55 When both Sonics team up for the final boss, let's just say you missed another Sonic 4 reference
You can turn lives on in the settings
4:50 I’m assuming when ypu were making a bit when talking about the spike ability and the platforms on planet wisp cause… you know you can spin dash with the spike ability still especially on the gears… and you can boost on the platforms so you can get to where you want to go faster… right?
I keep noticing that Nathaniel call, shadow generations dlc, but it's actually the main part of the game, they just bundled a remaster of Sonic generations with it
Metal Overlord wasn't the only Sonic Heroes boss to appear in Generations. The Egg Emperor appeared in the 3DS port of the original game, along with the Biolizard and Big Arms bosses. I understand why the 3DS would have a reduced number of levels but even there it has a completely different level set including Emerald Coast, Mushroom Hill, Radical Highway, Casino Night, Water Palace from Sonic Rush and Tropical Resort. Sega should add them into Sonic Generations & Shadow as a DLC.
4:48 Sounds like you don't know that you can boost / spin dash with the spike wisp. It's not slow at all.
5:52 you mean **Sonic Mania**
I beg to differ about amy because she was annoying asf being so unnecessarily clingy twords sonic and all of the characters were dying of dementia in the OG version. Also the sonic fight isn't a adventure 2 reference, its at the point where you reach the shadow boss fight in sonic generations.
i love mario 3d world/bowsers fury and i think it did the 3d aspect better in general, but sonic x shadow generations smokes it 😭
9:21 oh boy who gonna tell him!
12:18 dispite it literally being the model from sonic adventure 1?
2 things as of when i typed this comment:
1. not even a few weeks and there's already mods.
2. the drop dash was in a mod for classic sonic in the 2011 version and was added for modern sonic in the 2024 version and for shadow as a mod.
Shadow doesn't need wings. He has air shoes and when he came out of his thing in SA2 he Flys up to get the surface with Eggman with his air shoes and then after that 1 cutscene they never brought it up again
The drop dash is also useless since you can't use it to climb slopes and it doesn't give that big of a boost, and for modern sonic it's useless since you have the boost.
The stage is actually called Kingdom Valley.
If I may he was in fact playable as dlc and after completing it you can play sunset hights as shadow so it kinda makes it part of shadows history of games
5:57
Hey! Sonic Lost World is a good game!
Something I can’t understand is why Classic Sonic’s Dropdash is an equitable skill, meaning it can’t be used in Challenges, but Modern Sonic’s Dropdash is just built into his move-set???
6:18 this whole game is kinda like Mario 3d World + Bowsers Fury.
Ever since Lost World, Amy didn’t even flirt at Sonic, or was it Forces?
9:13 it’s called Kingdom Valley, but close enough I guess 😂
The reason they made Kingdom Valley from 06 is probably because Shadow in 06 was PEAK!
And I'd also would love to see 06 getting remaked or a Sonic Movie about 06
I love hearing peoples story of searching this game up and accidentally forgetting “generations”
OH GOD THE HORROR
A Sonic '06 Remake called "Sonic '26" would be hillarious
Few things i want to say:
2:49 thats called a game mechanic my friend. Just like how classic sonic can actually go to the past and future, but not in the games. And super sonic can last up to 2 weeks accoording to either sonic advance 2 or 3.
3:42 sega didnt choose what stages were coming to generations, they made a poll on their account(it was either facebook or twitter), and asked what the fans favourite stages were.
8:14 apperently, eggman left them in the void, and then they got in the white space(as of how im understanding it)
11:10 THAT ISNT HOW YOU PRONOUNCE HIS NAME
Classic Sonic references boost at the end of the game though, it is canon
@@Qoobon_ the boost is canon, yes, but its just a game mechanic
@@Couldntfindaname111 but classic sonic tried to perform it in a cutscene.
And Modern Sonic DID perform it in a cutscene, grabbing the red emerald
Those arent the boosr, those were the jump dash. The thing you do if you press the jump button again ifthe homing lock on doesnt appear
3:41 what theme is that?
I think it’s crisis city act 1 music from sonic generations.
2:29 what’s the name of the music playing here?
Sonic speed sim into lol
Its named your my hero
@@eliteshinx8884 I think u mean your my hero remix lol
You wanted one more level? Boy do I got some good news for ya, the movie DLC that releases in December has a new level based on the movie.
One of my only complaints about Shadow Generations is the fact that there is no dedicated level from the Shadow the Hedgehog game. Like, technically Space Colony ARK, but can we really count that stage? That stage feels more like Shadow's home than a stage from any one particular game at this point.
One of the biggest reasons this is an issue for me is because they have a Sonic Frontiers stage in the game. Shadow isn't even in that game. They could have dedicated time to include an extra stage in Sonic Generations to include Frontiers, while making a Shadow the Hedgehog stage for Shadow's game.
Neither of those Sonics experience Sonic Boom.
I find it funny how he calls Mephilis, Meh files, it's pronounced meh fe lis
It was sad we didn't get a remade Shadow level like Westopolis or another stage.
8:15 Cubot: Uh I’m also here.
4:03 i too get this excited when i play this stage
4:50 you know you wouldn’t go that slow if you just used the spin dash while using the spike wisp power. Seriously why the heck are you not using it?
technically we could also have gotten Luminous Forest or Mortar Canyon for Forces but those stages looked ugly visually so I’m glad they went with Sunset Heights
11:57 actually there’s dlc for a new level based off sonic movie 3 with Keanu reeves voice shadow.
I love NB’s skits. He's a comedic genius.
Sonic 06 might get remade when Silver is introduced in a movie
Can’t wait for how shadow generations will trigger you 😂