Lori Vallow Daybell's brother Alex Cox talks with Arizona police about killing Charles Vallow
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2021
- CHANDLER, Arizona -- Police in Arizona have released gigabytes of video interviews and other documents related to their investigation into the homicide of Charles Vallow, the former husband of Lori Vallow Daybell.
The documents came Tuesday after a Grand Jury indicted Daybell in June for conspiracy to murder for the July 11, 2019 shooting death of Vallow. Daybell's brother Alex Cox initially told Chandler Arizona Police he shot and killed Vallow in self-defense, but investigators say the evidence does not support the claim.
You can watch Cox's entire interview with police here.
Told him to put the gun down if that isn't a Freudian slip I don't know what it is. Guarantee that's what Charles was saying to him. Poor freaking Charles. He was the only one who truly knew what was going on understood it and tried to stop it
And poor Joe Ryan too. The first assassination for money.
@@paulinebuckles2310 Lori had an older sister who died years ago, not sure how. I think suicide but, Lori probably started with her sister 🤷♀️.
@@islandgirlcoler7849 I had heard that, but also that Lori's sister (Melanie's mother), had eating disorders and mental problems as well as needing medication she was not taking. I guess I don't think Lori or her brother killed her sister. Somehow this is all tied to how Lori views marriages and money, and she's not a well person.
It's awfully convenient that nobody can remember what any of the yelling was about..
Yeah. Because it was a preplanned execution where Lori stole his phone to piss him off
Probably zombies
They took his truck and hid it. So of coarse they are not going to tell anyone about that.
Yes.
@@busterthe2 that’s exactly what I thought. She knew that taking the phone would trigger him and also her instructing her daughter to go out to the car, kinda indicates she knew or had planned with her brother already that this shooting was going to happen.
He doesn't know what Charles was saying? Funny, Tylee didn't know what Charles was saying either. May be because they haven't decided what Charles should be saying. A more likely story is Charles was ambushed and didn't have much of a chance to say anything at all.
Exactly!
Or Charles was telling them he was taking the kids to safety and his brother were coming for an intervention. In reality it was Lori that was yelling
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they were playing keep away with the phone. they didn't want to shine light on that aspect of the dispute.
Funny that Alex, Lori, and Tylee could not definitively say what Charles had been saying in any of their interviews… 🤔
This officer needs to shut his mouth and stop finishing the damn story so we can hear Alex screw up over and over
He acts like hes in a big hurry.
@@mickeykyker4837 well, he did have to get ready for the big celebration party at Loris that night, you know. Maybe that's why he was acting a little anxious.😂
@@jenjennitrite8146 I think this is the guy that got a promotion after letting this case stew until the rest of LORIS killings hit the fan
Thank you dawn.. my thoughts exactly
JUSTICE FOR JOE 💛💛💛
JUSTICE FOR CHARLES ❤️❤️❤️
JUSTICE FOR TYLEE 💜💜💜🦋
JUSTICE FOR JJ 💙💙💙🦋
JUSTICE FOR TAMMY 💖💖💖
Justice for Alex and Lori's sister too. Don't forget her death
💕🌹💜🌟💖🧚♀️👼🏼🐴🐞🌸⭐️🌺💫💥🍒🛍💙🧸🍭🌈🌼🌷🌜🐬🐣🎓🎈. Tylee, J.J. , and Good Charles… we pray you will always be safe in peace and JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED! They will solve this case for you. 🧐
@@kathrynbillinghurst188 I'm just now learning this complicated story, but why do you think Charles was a good guy, if that's what you're saying?
@@dreamingrightnow1174 because there is more character witnesses to his state of being and him being a good guy. Even the videos of him calling the cops to get Lori help is sad. :( he still loved her but believed she needed severe mental help.
5 people! its horrific, how??????
All these people laughing two hours after the incident. What in the world?!
Right? You'd think the suspects' smiles and laughter, and total indifference to the fact Alex just shot dead a close relative in Lori's home, might ring a few alarm bells with the Keystone Cops, wouldn't you? But no - they 100% bought their 'self defence BS and let Alex and Lori go free the same day!
That same night Lori and Alex threw a pool party with the kids at her home - I wonder if they even bothered to clean up Charles' blood first? Two months later, Charles' murderers (and their accomplice Chad Daybell), killed Lori's children JJ and Tylee, and three months later, Tammy Daybell too was murdered.
Alex, otherwise known as the family hit man, also tried to kill Brandon Boudreaux, the estranged husband of Lori's niece Melani - thankfully Brandon was able to speed away, and survived. Needless to say, Brandon had a huge life insurance policy which his widow, and no doubt Lori and Alex, expected to benefit from!
His utter lack of concern that he has taken a human life is incredible.
I can’t believe the laughter!!! Wtf???
Psychopath .
Alex Cox was a psychopath - and a cowardly one at that. Charles Vallow may have been 10 years older than him, but he was a gifted sportsman and would have easily got the better of poison-dwarf Alex in any physical confrontation.
So in cahoots with Lori, the sister he was incestuously banging, Alex ambushed the unarmed and unsuspecting Charles when he came to take his little boy to breakfast then school. Alex shot Charles multiple times in the chest. Charles didn't stand a chance.
But incredibly, Chandler Police accepted Alex and Lori's outrageous self-defence claim, and let them go! That night they held a pool party at the house where they'd earlier murdered Charles. What the poor, confused and traumatised JJ and Tylee thought, we will never know - as they too were murdered, just 2 months later.
If the Keystone Cops had done their damn job and recognised the blatantly obvious murder of Charles Vallow, they'd have arrested and charged his killers Alex and Lori. And those innocent children (plus potentially, Tammy Daybell too, who was murdered in October), would be alive today.
Chandler Police MUST be held accountable for their disastrous handling of the doomsday cult killers. If they'd only done their jobs properly and nailed them for killing Charles', they could have prevented those three imminent murders. Chandler Police have blood on their hands.
1) HE SAID that Lori did not ask him to come over to protect her because she knew Charles was coming over the next morning, but in Lori's interview, SHE SAID she DID want him to be there: I trust my brother." and "
He stayed over because I was worried [Charles] was gonna come over and cause trouble with me."
Someone is lying.
2) HE SAID he did NOT call Lori after he shot Charles. In Lori's interview, she said he DID call her. She said, "
Yeah, he called me and said are you taking him to school, I said yeah you need to call the police; he said yeah."
One of them is lying. Why didn't the detectives pick this up? That's their job!
Yep, and he also said in the interview he was on the phone in the room and then upon the second half of the interview after they took pics, he said he wasn’t on the phone when the detective even said he thought he was on the phone 🤦♀️ can’t believe they didn’t do anything about it right away with all the inconsistencies
Mostly lies here for sure
Alex and Lori were both lying. They had plotted Charles' murder, it was all a set up (as his wife, she believed she was sole beneficiary of his $1 million life insurance policy).
Lori lured her estranged husband into her home for a supposed access visit to their little boy JJ (Charles was going to take him to breakfast, and then to school). But when Charles walked through the front door to collect his son, unarmed and unsuspecting, he was met by his brother-in-law Alex, pointing a loaded gun at him. It was an ambush.
Charles didn't stand a chance. He was murdered in a hail of bullets to his chest. Forensics proved some shots were fired at him as he lay helpless on the floor! Charles had walked in all smiles, expecting to collect his child - and was carried out in a body bag. How Chandler Police could just accept his killers' BS self defence story about Charles supposedly hitting Alex with a baseball bat, and let them go free the same day, is utterly outrageous!
Charles Vallow had no history of violence whatsoever - but Alex Cox had served jail time for a vicious taser attack and threats to kill Lori's previous husband Joseph Ryan. This was history repeating! It was obvious it was Alex, not Charles, who was the aggressor.
Thanks to the Keystone Cops, those ruthless murderers (and their accomplice Chad Daybell), were free to kill Lori's children JJ and Tylee just two months later, and Chad's wife Tammy three months later. Chandler Police have blood on their hands!
Once Lori left the house, there was no reason to shoot Charles. Alex didn't wash his hands and immediately call 911. He also lied to 911 about doing CPR. Timeline doesn't make sense. Alex is cool as a cucumber and acting like he's at the comedy club. Psst, hey, cop, that other charge was a previous attack on another of Lori's husbands so red flag.
If he had time to go to his room to get the gun then he had time to just stay there and lock the door....if his life was truly being threatened then he could have just stayed in his room!
There is no way in hell he was a paid regular.
Lori was IN the house when Charles was shot; she said so in her interview. However, she claims that she didn’t directly see the shooting as she had gone around into the kitchen area because Charles and her were fighting about his cell phone and she had his phone. She said that she had only heard the gunshot(s) and then left the house to take JJ to school after Charles was shot. Tylee had gone outside prior to the shooting to check on JJ as he had been outside in the car waiting to be taken to school. Lori never mentioned that Tylee went back into the house (through the garage and into her mother’s bedroom as Tylee said in her interview) in order to get Lori’s handbag. Alex called Lori sometime later and it was only then discussed that 911 should be called.
I agree. And it wasn't even Alex's voice when someone called 911.
@@missybancroft6688 many many holes in their stories that it seems a bit of detective work could’ve revealed…
Also why would Charles advance with a bat when he can clearly see Alex has a gun in his hand? Alex said he warned him, yet Charles comes forward anyway, as if he would be any match for trigger-happy Cox. Whole thing sickens me, that these people can pick and choose who lives and who dies.
It's what happens when people think they can "play God"
Suicide by Cox.
Alex chose to fire multiple shots to the chest. Why not a single shot to a leg or shoulder? No self-defense here!
How did Charles manage to hit Alex on the back of the head? His second story is Charles shoved him and made him spin around and then hit him on the back of the head. How does a person holding a bat push Alex enough to spin him around? Charles has a bat in one hand, so he spun Alex around with one hand? I don't think so.
@@annwood6812 Yes, that is a mystery. And he sits in the interview room with the blood running down his neck as if to make a statement, "it was I who was injured."
Unbelieveable what these "people" got away with.
At that time they did, but lorie won't
@@axemangang1584 we'll see. So far she's getting away with this act she's playing as unfit for trial.
@@dt998
Playing that up is a formality in Idaho. It could take up to six month delay, but won't stop the process.
@@fionnmaccumhaill3257 not saying it will. But she continues to play the system and it won't stop.
They’ll all stand b4 God & give an account of their actions, & God knows the truth! So they ultimately will not get away with anything! 👍
yes, this CLEARLY looks like a man that was just hit in the head but a metal baseball bat in full swing by another grown man....please. His story is reallllll vague too. These cops shouldnt be cops. I cant believe this was dropped and they were all just let go. Poor Charles, you were so let down.
Hit by an ex professional baseball player at that!!!!! His head wouldn't still be on his damn shoulders....😡🙄
And couple this with the fact that Charles had already previously TOLD the Chandler police that he feared for his life, AND, if anything did happen to him, it would be Whori that was responsible. Wow, these guys couldn't detect a fart under the duvet!!
Why doesn't this have tens of thousands of views?? Thank you East Idaho News, for posting all these!
She wasn't so flirty when she realized calling the insurance she was shut down. Bwahaha. The only good thing taken from this pack of lies
Probably okay. We need them to have a decent jury for the conviction to stick.
Perhaps most all kind of figured it was pure BS anyway.
Such strange timing for a sense of humor...casual talking right after killing a human bean.
Absolutley ! Veryyyy strange situation, like business as usual.
I don’t think it was his first bean, either.
@@therealwilfreddierkes9980 thanks, I needed that.
How come the autopsy is just NOW coming out that proves they shot him laying on ground and in stomach
Because AZ law enforcement is inept. It's awful that they didn't brake this more seriously. 3 more people ended up dying. smh such sloppy police work
I had actually heard this previously, although I’m not sure of the timing. But it has been known, proven, and reported for some time that Alex shot him the second time when Charles was already lying on the floor due to the flooring in the home.
Hmm didn't know that .
my thought is they are all in the same LDS ward
I have watched a few of these interviews and I can not believe that they all smiled and laughed while speaking to the Detectives. How can they find humor in such a serious situation?
Exactly, even in an accidental situation I'd be a wreck!
Alex story doesn't match Lori's story as to why he was even there. He said they were going to a water park (even tho JJ was going to school?) Lori said she wanted him there because she was worried Charles might do something. Alex later denied that Lori was concerned about Charles doing something. Alex denies having medical conditions yet later he goes to Mexico to get prescriptions for some condition & later dies.
He died from pulmonary emboli, and unless he had warning signs of DVT like leg swelling, redness and pain, he’d have absolutely no warning. PE’s often precipitated be long periods of not changing positions like car rides to Mexico. And death is sudden. Do you know why he was going there? Maybe meds for someone else? I hadn’t heard.
@@kkdoc7864 it was discussed on other sites that Alex knew it was time for him to go and the newlywed Daybells sent to him a “pkg” (probably the poison given to Tammy. The marriage of Alex and Z was arranged by Chad. Her (Z) son didn’t even know Alex’s last name and Alex was his stepdad. Also, Alex had made very suspicious trips to the Middle East.
Personally, I believe they were in a cult and the children may have been sacrificed.
Alex and Lori's brother stated in a phone interview that he was known to travel to Columbia to sleep with women, that's what he normally did on his "vacation time" and was not normal to take a week off to sit at Lori's house.
So Lori sends her child, Tylee, BACK into a dangerous situation to get her purse? I can't imagine going back in to get my own purse, much less sending my child back in.
I can’t believe how calm all of them are after just shooting a family member…nerves of steel or no conscience. Wow! I wouldn’t even be able to freaking talk..
Pathological liars.
Yeah, only Tylee cries and only when she's alone and not for very long.
Psycopaths show no emotions at all.
No conscience. Sociopaths.
Infuriating. AZ did not do the job when they murdered Charles, if they has.... J&T may still be alive today as well as Tammy. They are now just jumping on the bandwagon after the fact.
Agreed. And depressingly unsurprising.
Public pressure.
Correct!!
Seems like there’s a WHOLE LOTTA CORRUPTION in the state of AZ… government officials, election officials, police…
There’s also a WHOLE LOTTA child trafficking that runs through AZ. GOT TO HAVE CORRUPT OFFICIALS AND CORRUPT POLICE in order to keep it going.
It’s a VERY PROFITABLE business after all.
Remember what Cyndi McCain said about Jeffrey Epstein… “We ALL KNEW what he was doing…”
Indeed, they did. They all profited from “looking the other way.”
Once your police force is trained in “looking the other way”…. well then, the citizens have no protection anymore, do they? They answer to the corrupt, “elite,”permanent political class. No one else.
Hmmm… wonder why Alex had to travel all the way to Columbia to find his young “girlfriends?” REALLY?!? He couldn’t find ANYONE in the US that would have sex with him?? REALLY?!?!!
And he went to Mexico to allegedly get prescription drugs… shortly BEFORE his death due to “natural causes?! “. Okaaaayyyy.
Where did Alex get his money for all of this travel?? His only REAL job appeared to be performing “wet-works” for FIRST LORI, later for Chad & Lori, then finally for Chad, Lori, Melani P and their “NEW CHURCH” that they just created, “Church of the First Born”… I believe they called it.
@@saylorgirl799 💯%
I cant believe this, well I can but this is totally sickening. Alex is joking around and laughing right after killing a man. Not to mention his own sister's husband that he has known for many years and they even got along at one time. This is terrible.
so why was he not arrested ?
@@uwewinkler2820 Good question. But I’m sure it’s because the LE needed evidence, an investigation, and proof. But if that was me I would have been locked up my luck.
@@INSHERRYSOPINION EXACTLY WE’D BE CHARGED WITH FELONY AND PROBABLY HAVE TO GO TO COURT AND PAY A FINE AND BE MADE TO FEEL GUILTY ABOUT STEALING A CANDY BAR… WHAT’S GOING ON HERE???
@@kathrynbillinghurst188 I know it’s unbelievable
Like a man who's killed before!
Chandler police are responsible for not looking into this further and seeing that Charles was murdered. They let themselves be manipulated by Chad and Lori and because of their ineptitude 3 others (2 of them children) died. The Chandler PD need to be held accountable for their part in all of this.
Hopefully a case is opened up against this police force . These cops are hopeless 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
Charles went there unarmed. He must have known Alex "always" carried a gun and the history of Alex attacking Lori's other husband Joe with a stun gun.
This makes no sense its obvious to anyone who has common sense that Charles ran in to grab his phone. Charles left JJ in car and he just ran in quickly to get his phone. All they had to do is give phone back. Did he leave phone in house or phone brought into house when JJ was put in car? This story doesn't add up. My guess is they took his phone from car to lure him in and ambush him. Charles knew what Alex was capable of. Charles gets there at 740 and takes 20 mins to get to school. JJ routine is BK before school another 15 to mins. This def ambush bc the intervention and Charles threaten to tell Tammy.
I believe I heard Lori say that she kept his phone back to snoop on his texts. Yeah, the whole thing is shady AF.
Lori was already with Chad at this point and Charles knew? I don’t know the beginning details very well.
@@kayllllllaz listen to her brother talk about Charles phone...he never leaves it anywhere. After making this comment. I happened to listen to Adam's recorded call. I m going to drop the link. That day begins w Charles picking up JJ and taking him to school.
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Why they never asked Lori "Why did you keep his phone?" And how in Hell did Alex become the victim??? And why did he say his wife?? He wasn't married yet was he?? Jesus these cults spawn from the Bible are the most dangerous. Not one Damn tear anywhere. This was an ambush.
@@kayllllllaz but tammy didn't know. Charles had emailed her about tge affair between Lori and Chad at her school.
It's unsure if she read it.
He was going to go to tell tammy.
The needed to prevent him.
He just shot Charles at least 2 times as he claims and then says he does CPR sort of but doesn’t have a drop of blood on his clothes that he’s asked several times whether they are they same clothes he was wearing at the time. So many lies.
Is this investigator a rookie or something? You ask questions, and let them answer, you don't answer for them. Sheesh! So, they asked him 2X if that was what he was wearing when he shot him. Alex said he gave him CPR, if he did that he would have blood all over his shirt and paints. Why are they not picking up on this??? Why would he need to go after Alex, you never asked him that? He was there to take JJ to school. So stupid why they did not do an investigation of Alex especially when he shot and killed her other husband too. It's almost like these guys are part of Chad's cult and just playing along.
Had the Chandler Police known Alex had done time for assaulting Tylee’s Dad with a Taser, this would have ended differently. 🙄
I doubt it....these cops are beyond inept!
Chandler PD ran Alex for priors. Look at 1:56.30. Alex told the cop about his prior.
Lori instigated it by taking Charles’ phone.
Right?! And Charles didn’t want her to have it because he was planning an “intervention” with her other brother, Adam! This whole thing is just sad.
@@aromaathome it is sad. The main issue is that Lori tried to get him riled up for an excuse to kill him. Then, took the kids to school and to Burger King afterwards. I would have freaked out that my ex was dead and yelled at anyone who killed him. They had it planned.
@@theartzscientist8012 "Sorry, neighbors." Giggle, giggle, flirty, flirty.
@@bettyir4302 ???
@@theartzscientist8012 that's what Lori was doing after she found out Charles was dead. Flirting with the cops and making lame jokes. Very chill and laid back, even less riled than some people get over a speeding ticket or your dog being run over. Just not right.
Why is the investigator telling Alex what happened? Isn't it supposed to be Alex incriminating himself with his story telling. STFU and observe the psychopath killer! Notice the inconsistencies and interrogate him! Please tell me this police department is getting an overhaul and proper training!
Notice how alex, Lori. & tylee all three could not remember what Charles was yelling about. I think its cause he wasn't yelling & it was set up to get him there & kill him.
The Chandler police committed so many mistakes in this interview..
If nobody is in the room..you left and got a gun..why would you come back bc no one is in danger at that point..you can't say self- defense if you left the room..no one is in danger...
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Right, so whatever became of his phone? Did she leave with it, drive away with it?
Yep.
We’ve been told this since we were little. Get away. Run. Yet, here we are.
@@elizabethelliott3175
Yes, that came out later.
What a pleasant meet and greet with the Chandler AZ PD. Wish Gilbert PD had been so polite to to Charles, or Phoenix PD had been so welcoming to Annie Cushing.
Exactly. I think the same.
I don't believe I would ask a guy that has a gun pointing at me , and say What are you going to do about it.
This was so planned.....
Oh yea! Definitely was planned
Why they didn’t arrest him right there. He said he didn’t know why Charles was there. Then said later he knew Charles was going to be there to pick up jj.
This was an ambush. Lori took Charles’ phone to antagonise him...and set the killing in motion.Tylee was groomed and indoctrinated enough (RIP poor soul) to bring the baseball bat into the mix. Then this robot comes out with a gun...He should have been charged with murder and taken into custody right there and then.
Interesting how 3 people witnessed this crime, and two of them are now dead (Alex and Tylee). Lori leaves no loose ends.
AND the murderer! It’s insane!
Actually, there were 5 people there that day… Lori, Alex, Charles, Tylee and JJ (allegedly in Charles’ car). Of the 5 people, ONLY LORI SURVIVES!! ALL the rest are DEAD!
Indeed, she leaves NO “loose ends” that could incriminate her!
Wheres the 8njury on his head? Liar. He had to have hit his own head. Charles was ambushed.
It’s just a scratch! He’s been moving his head just fine! They all make me sick!
Alex and Lori can't even get their stories straight. Alex said that he called 911 right after shooting Charles and Lori had said that Alex called her right after and that she told him to call 911.
...but she was in there when he shot Charles so why did she need to call Alex at all? Weird! We know they are liars, we suspect they are psychopaths, we are glad Alex is deceased. Makes one wonder if he had committed murder before, as calm and cool as he is. Just killed his brother in law and isn't even shaken.
@@Wistful77 So True!! Can't wait for justice to come their way!!
@@janetjohnson7279 I live in Boise, so guess what? The circus is coming to town! Still mourning for Tylee and JJ, so that is a half-hearted joke about those clowns, Lori and Chad.
@@Wistful77 well then, maybe you can go to "The Circus", when it comes to town. Don't forget to take your popcorn and peanuts. Enjoy the show!!
*Gun Case at the end of the bed?
*Gun Ready to go.
*Alex doesn't know ANYTHING ABOUT LORI needing Alex to SPEND THE NIGHT to PROTECT HER from Charles.
*Alex clothing was free of blood. No CPR issued to Charles Vallow 😢
*Alex Never saw Charles Vallow to be aggressive/threat to anyone!
* Charles was a good man!
Charles loves Lori!
*Charles provides well for Lori and the kids! Even while separated!
*Charles was freaking out worried about the safety of the kids. All for legitimate reasons, Chandler PD didn't blink an eye at him, Chandler just blew-off Charles Vallow CRY'S for HELP!
Now he's just been shot to death!!
What a freaking SHAME!
*** Chandler PD knows what Charles Vallow was worried and afraid of!
*CHARLES has called the Chandler PD SEVERAL TIMES & ALSO STATED THAT LORI THREATENED TO DO HARM TO HIM!
Chandler PD has all of Charles Vallow's Video Statements/interviews. He was ALWAYS consistently respectful calm with stable reasoning. CHANDLER IGNORED EVERY SINGLE CALL CHARLES VALLOW MADE!
I WONDER WHAT THEY/CHANDLER POLICE ARE THINKING NOW???
CHARLES VALLOW'S VIDEO FOOTAGE IS HIS STATEMENTS AND WITTNESS!
You have to wonder why no one believes him BUT...
CHANDLER PD BELIEVES ALEX COX AND LORI VALLOW?
ALEX COX WALKED FROM A COLD BLOODED EXECUTION.
* VERY SUSPICIOUS!
*Alex Cox was calm as if it was a regular day.
*Very strange.
Another inconsistency. Alex says that Tylee pokes the bat into Charles's stomach. Tylee says that she just put the bat out in front of her mom and Charles. She never said that she touched Charles with the bat. These people can't even match each other's story. And what a story it is. PURE FICTION!!!
Yeah, and Lori said something like, "I don't know if she swung it at him, or...". Wtf man
No one asking who needed to be notified about Charles death. No one concerned that a man was dead. Alex treated as a victim instead of a murderer.
I don't understand how Lorie and Chad really thought they could kill Charles and Tammy and Tylee and JJ and think no one notice
They are DUMMIES...both of them!! I don't get it either!
And probably her other husband Joe AND likely ALEX!!
They came pretty close
I had to laugh that they needed a flashlight to see the injury to the back of his head. Also why would they sit him so that the camera just focuses on the back of Alex? So the most important thing is to get the full on view of the detective asking the questions? This police department has proven over and over how inept they are. The good news here is that Alex is dead. Who killed him? Melanie Gibb, Melanie Polouski, or Zulema? That's my guess.
Alex had the gun. Lori and Alex had been plotting the whole thing. Making Charles look like the monster.
I also noticed several inconsistencies in Alex's own statement. At one instance he says one thing happened, then later on he says something different happened in regards to the exact same incident. Why didn't the Police pick up on the inconsistencies?
It’s obvious that their stories are all way off from each other’s. No truth. I never heard the investigator ask Alex where/what position he and Charles where when the shots were fired - nothing specific asked about the actual MURDER event. Did I miss it?
Their stories do not match. The details...where they were standing etc
How do police let slide he left the room, went to another room...in a home that was not his...Charles was paying rent. They were married...
He could have just stayed in bedroom and locked the door....
WHAT BULL SHIT!!!
Insert here Alex "he played semi-pro baseball. If Charles wanted to hit you he hits you. Charles didn't hit you with that Damn bat
I wonder if Tylee hit Alex...
Unsettling to see him in this room, and also to see zulema and Melani gibb interviewed in this exact same room after (and regarding) his death
This whole interview / interrogation / whatever the hell it is, truly has me dumbfounded. I feel as though the police officer knows that Alex is not telling the truth and he knows that something else happened and something fishy is going on. Alex and Lori are so nonchalant about this whole experience. The impression that I get is, he's a Born killer. He WAS a Born killer. I'm glad he's dead. He didn't even deserve a trial.
for this sick dude its nothing less then a comedy story and act. he expects police to applause for his action
They did .had they not killed jj (a minor) they wouldve never been caught
They stole from Charles...took his vehicle from airport...cancelled his flight...moved all his stuff....
Yep! Her and MG. That’s right! 👊
Yeah, Lori is a pro manipulator, pretty scary how good she was at it.
Soooo clear when you hear from everyone who's talked to her. Makes me wonder who was the puppetmaster... 🤔🤔🤔
@@akasha924 are you meaning between lori and chad?
@@Hartleymolly yes! They seem to both have this reputation of being super manipulative.
He’s just as wacky and stone hearted as Lori. Cackling and joking when he just killed a man. How they fooled this police dept is beyond me! And what’s with the paper thin walls - they can hear all the conversations. This whole thing makes me sick!
Tylee said her mom sent her back into the house to get her purse before they left for school and Alex didn’t mention that. Who knows if Tylee walked in on Alex shooting Charles and It’s hard not to wonder if Lori planned it that way. Awful.
Or if she woke up to gun shots and that's why she felt like she needed a bat? I question even the things they agreed on. Maybe especially the things they all agree on. 🤔🤔🤔
He was making sure Charles didn't hurt Tyleee, meanwhile they're planning Charles murder, murder Charles Cold blood while he's asking, what are you going to do to me? and then him and his sister straight up murder Tylee, good thing you protected her from Charles right? I think the actuality of it is they were afraid Charles would protect Tylees life when they wanted to take it
I still can’t get over the feeling that the children were present at the time that Charles was shot and Lori rushed them out of the house… to school or away from the house. I still have gut feeling that these innocent children knew everything. Sudden change of plans ? Why? Murder - Ambush! They got rid of the kids!!
How would he know jj was out in the car if he didn’t know Charles was there till he heard them fighting ??
Lori basically said Alex spent the night jic she needed him because Charles was coming over the next morning..Alex denied it..Cops caught this also imo..I just don't get it 😔🕊🙏💜
You have to watch this captions on...the shit that is going on when police officer leaves room is unbelievable! I can't hear good so I always put captions on. Smdh.
Oh my gosh thanks for the heads up. Didn’t even think of that!
These cops seem hopeless tbh .they’re just telling him what to say like “ hey here’s a clue “, seems they just want to wrap this up so they can go about their day ,and not have too much paper work 🤬🤬 .I mean this guy is friggin laughing ,he’s just killed his brother in law ,surely you’d feel some remorse .everything about this case and the way it’s been handled has been shoddy. the people who watch these videos have a better idea of this group than the police force
I felt as much remorse when Alex Cox died as Alex is showing about poor Charles dying. 🙄
So after following Lori around arguing, Lori & Tylee leave and Charles just stands there and wait for Alex to get back from his room with his gun? Bullshit!
So what was Charles saying when he was screaming?:
I don’t know. Something like “please don’t murder me!”
Then what happened?:
I murdered him.
How many times did you shoot?:
More than once, that’s for sure.
What did you do after that?:
I cleaned myself up so it wouldn’t look quite so much like a murder.
(And so on and so forth like that for two hours or so until they let him go free)
Tylee and Lori weren't both gone when the gun went off. Tylee stated that she was outside and heard the gunshot and then Lori came running out of the house. Then Lori told Tylee to go back in and get her purse. I'll bet Lori got the first shot in and Alex finished him off after they left.
How is no one shook up from Charles being shot?!?! That should have raised flags with someone! Its all very matter of factly. Him & Lori sure put on that charm. I don't know if they had Tyler fully manipulated or she was just scared.
Also, Lori said Charles hit Alex with the bat, Alex doesn't say any of that.
Tylee was brainwashed by her mom she was telling her what to say that day and Tylee real dad is dead to so who knows how much tylee been threw with this crazy lady but she trusted her mom and did everything her mom said that's how I see it she thinks Charles was the bad guy but it was her mom this hole time of course she going to stick up for her mom
I noticed that too - Lori also claimed that Alex and Charles were physically fighting each other and were “grappling”. What a bunch of lying psychos!!!
In Tylee's interview video, about 7 minutes in, she starts humming the song "How far I'll go" from the Disney movie, Moana, soundtrack. Look it up. Listen to the words. It's her story... I will never hear that song again without thinking of her. So heartbreaking. Poor sweet girl.
Yes.... I think she was trying to save Charles. She said she had a bat to feel safer at her *uncle's* - I mean, C'mon... which one of those men do you think spent time swinging a bat with her? And a girl poetic enough to sing *this song* grabs a bat to go against a semipro player? Not. Buying. It.
Wow! Love the way Alex even tells him - aggravated assault felony and the cop doesn’t ask even ONE question about that. But when they want a person for murder they beat those details to dust over and over and over again looking for any possible inconsistenciy..
Did the bat have Charles finger prints on it?
Hmmm good question!
I wondered that too, I guess we'll eventually get the skinny on that...
Guess they never bothered to check.
I just don't understand why after killing someone he was allowed to carry on his murder spree. Some of the police over there are sooo lenient. My god if someone drives off and police chase for burglary or something they get shot...i dont understand why he wasnt locked up? Maybe the other murders wouldn't have happened?
Too many cult members in the PD?
He was arrested and severed time for attacking her pervious husband, who was just walking along minding his own business. Wouldn't you just be able to Google his name to find out that info. The whole thing is just so bazaar.
@@mickeykyker4837 yeah I know he served time for tazering her previous husband and was arrested ,but Chares went to the police about Lori and told them he was afraid of her ,her mental state and then he ends up dead? Really....wtflip he was then free to be able to participate in the killing of the children...if not organised it and was there when Chinny Chad murdered them ? It IS bizarre but also,negligent of the police to let him free..now Zulema was laid on a tarp to get a massage they really ought to look into what poisons can be used in massage oils that can enter the skin..cos I do not beleive that Alex Cox died of natural causes at all...
I am confused...how did Alex not go to jail?
In America, the authorities can only try you once for a crime. They have one shot at it. This is referred to as the double jeopardy clause. Anyone charged with a crime also has a right to a fair and speedy trial.
So....hypothetically They know he's guilty and arrest him. He claims his right to a speedy trial and demands to see a magistrate asap. Now the prosecution doesn't have time to build an airtight case against Alex and he walks free because they rushed instead of taking their time.
What police try to do is find something else they can arrest you for if they think you're all imminent threat to others. But, if he's done nothing else, they can't even do that. This is why Brian Laundrie has or had a warrant for bank card fraud instead of murder. They will add murder after an autopsy or collect more evidenceevidence. (I think they got a murder warrant on Brian because of autopsy cause of death and him having fled).
@@fionnmaccumhaill3257 I get that but their stories did not match up and no one showed any emotions. I think they had a case but what do I know…not a lawyer/cop/judge. Had they arrested them, odds are good that the kids would be alive…and Tammy. Hindsight is 20/20
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Inconsistent version of events, lack of care of concern is not enough to secure a conviction. They would lose the case and never be able to try them again, even if later discovering incontrovertible proof. They would've blown their chance. So they wait and then bring up those things in court to help justify their case.
So at no time do these cops look up Alex record to show he was inside for already attacking one of Lori's husbands with a taser? Are we serious right now?
Lori said he stayed there overnight because she was worried about charles coming there. He says he stayed there to do a fun day. If there going to plan a set up, they can at least get their stories straight.
The plan was to pray him to death. When that didn't work, I think Alex made it happen to be his sister's hero. She's so proud of that. And she kinda blows it for him - his story is tighter with Tylee's. He seems (understandly) much more experienced with the criminal just system than Lori. Just for example - She overexplains chicken nuggets and he knows not to take a call on camera.
All I gotta say is that they sent the wrong guy in to "interrogate" this dude!
IKR, he's freak'n cracking jokes and chatting like they're best buds!
clearly Lori shot Charles.. She got the gun out of the room while Alex and Charles were fighting and She shot Charles.. those following shots were from Alex shooting the gun to ensure he had gun powder on his hands so he could lie about being the one that killed Charles. Alex's whole story about stopping fighting and going back into the room, getting the gun then coming back in the room and shooting Charles doesn't make any sense at all. Hey Charles, I know we are in the middle of a scuffle at the moment, can you hold on a sec while i run in my room for something..Yeah, just stand there and wait, I'll be right back... NOT,,, Lori got the gun.. she shot him.
I never thought about that but that makes a lot of sense
does not match Tylee's story re bat sequence
He’s so calm he puts his head down and goes to sleep
Lori was just meditating calmly after her interview, fricken psychopaths!!! 😡
They look at his hands. They examine him, and they would know that it was not possible for him to have attempted life saving measures like he claimed. He has no blood on him. Not even his own from this supposed head strike he claims was bleeding while he travels to the room, and back to confront Charles. Then back to the kitchen to get cleaned up. Heads bleed a lot, and I would think that to be doubly so with adrenaline coursing, and your heart pounding. You can’t even see a laceration.
Such a liar!!
Wish we could see his face, while he’s talking! I’d love to see “The Behavior Panel” weigh in on this interview, if they had.
The investigator is SUPPOSED to seat Alex in the seat that FACES the camera!
Watch at the very beginning of the video… Alex starts to sit in that seat, and the cop VERY INTENTIONALLY REDIRECTS him to sit in the wrong seat… the one in which the suspect’s back would be facing the camera!!
IT. WAS. INTENTIONAL.
A few noticable things:
A.) He's staring straight forward, not looking around the room, etc. avoiding eye contact w the police man.
B.) If you murdered somebody in "self defense" you thought your life was in danger enough to shoot.. Why would you be like "my head kinda hurts.. not bad thou" like you need to sell that shit "Omg it hurts so bad, he got me good"
C.) He has the NERVE to feel "inconvenienced" for waiting for someone to take pictures when he just MURDERED an innocent man.
Alex can't remember 1 word Charles was screaming.
Taylee can't remember 1 word Charles was screaming.
Lorie's the only one to remember that Charles was screaming like a 16 year old "give my phone back".
Lorie in her own words she was circling around Charles having enough time to check his phone out and see Charles was in contact with her other brother.
So while Lorie was circling around and checking out the phone. Alex heard nothing exept Lorie say "get your hands of me" because it happened that quick.
It clearly didn't go happen that quick
With only Lori to remember what was said they don't run the risk of not getting their storys straight.
You would think you would remember a fully grown man throwing a fit like a 16 year old screaming "GIVE ME, MY PHONE BACK
1. Lorie said Charles and Alex's were both on the ground rolling around while Alex was being hit and was fighting over the bat.
Alex say's he was spun around not on the ground being hit and struggling to get the bat.
2. Lorie said after she heard the shot she came in and saw Charles on the ground and Alex standing there.
She mentioned about 999
When Alex was asked regarding that he said he only saw her Lorie when she drove up
3: Lorie stated she asked Alex to be there so if Charles came over the night before and started something.
Alex said No
4: Alex asked about any conviction? Alex there was a felony but then quickly down plays it he forgot to add the most important part officer it was for trazing Lorie's previous husband. Alex seems to be the go to when Lorie needs protection from her husband's.
5: In Lorie's own words she came in and saw Alex standing there with Charles shot on the ground. And spoke about phoning 999
Alex when asked said he didn't see Lori till she drive up
6: Alex say's he shot a couple of times so who shot the other shots?
Why wasn't Lorie's hands swabbed also?
Out of the 6 there wasn't 1 thing that lined up not 1
Alex wasn't even asked why he had a loaded gun in the open especially given JJ was in the house with Lorie saying JJ was a lot of work.
But the most shocking with Charles's already dead within 2 months Tylee who diffended her Mom and uncle her reward for her loyalty would be death
If you listen closely to when he was alone he whispers to himself, “What did I do?”.
Time stamp?
I think it was when Kay called for the welfare check that got the ball rolling and they started putting all the pieces together. Yeah, the police really dropped the ball when it came to Charles. They have to live with the fact that Tylee, JJ, and Tammy could all still be alive. It had to of crossed their minds.
If she hadn’t been playing games with Charles & his phone, if that’s even true, don’t believe their lies they wanted him dead.
AGAIN..SIMPLE COMMON~SENSE...
" YOU NEVER HAVE TO REMEMBER THE *TRUTH!!!
LOCK THESE DEVILS UP🔐🪦
Why on earth do they do separate interviews and not go back and compare their stories? He himself changed his story, I fell to the floor no I didn’t fall, Lori came into my room, no she didn’t. Nothing was requestioned.
If anyone is thinking of committing murder, you should do it in this town, you’ll get away with it. Worst investigation ever, 4 people could still be alive if they did their job 😡
You know the best part of this is when lory didn't get Charles money he was smart he all ready was planning to give his money to Kay and her husband that must of made her so mad I'm so glad he did that he must of known something was going to happen and know one was believing this poor man that's just trying to protect those kids but tylee was so brainwashed from her mother all these years tylee real father died and I know lory and Alex did something to him and I bet tylee seen so much and her mom telling her lies and all she wanted was to believe her mom so sad everyone dead and I think this is going to bring up Joseph Ryan tylee dad that past away he didn't pass away lory and Alex killed him I hope this is brought up
Disturbing the way they joke and are so relaxed around Alex....Chandler PD needs to stop trying to so hard to be friends with perps and conduct business professionally
His story keeps changing wow
So... a life has been taken and the only suspect is questioned less than 30 minutes and let go , despite everyone's stories already conflicting... 🙄
No one is consistent about where everyone was. Alex puts them in the living room, and Tylee purportedly did not come all the way out of her room before inserting the bat in front of Charles. She claimed to have fallen onto her side, and then she is told to go to the car. No traveling out to the living room. She still has them in the hall. Lori has them around the kitchen, and Charles body tells its own story that contradicts everything. Being shot more than one time, and while already down on the floor. Brutal. I will never not question how things might have ended if these specific LEO’s would have compared notes, or I don’t know...did anything to check that this was truly self defense. They process the scene, and they outright point out the inconsistencies on body cam. Lori probably whacked Alex with the bat, and deleted any antagonistic messages from Charlie’s phone before leaving. I would still love to know when they managed to plan this pool party.
Yeah, exactly. How could they have had a pool party? Shouldn't the house still have been locked down for processing? They are both disgusting greedy monsters. The party must have been her celebrating (prematurely, of course) receiving Charles' insurance $$!
He's totally lieing in this I can't believe they didn't arrest him I don't know why this is taking so long to get lory Chad and others that are in on this this trial is going to take a long time specially dealing with Chad's lawyer that complains all the time
None of their stories match!
Wow, Alex voice goes high when questioned if they knew Charles was coming that day...."yah, no!" Guilt
100%, the way he said that... Agree.
Time?
Where’s the wine and cheese plate?
IKR! "Would you like another water, maybe a soda...?" I watch a lot of true crime stuff and I've never seen an interrogation so calm and chummy.
*Maybe* she did it and they put the story together. She hit him with the bat *cover story* after promising Alex Insurance money. Not knowing Charles changed it hence Alex later had to "go" after using him some more.
Think not their first go around. But no self respecting law enforcement officer would have left him go after initial investigation. Wife giggling. Step daughter acted like annoyed to be there. 0 emotion.
Was JJ not interviewed??
Scratch on head, went to bedroom and returned with gun in house that was not his....Charles was paying rent....
BS!!!
I am so shocked to watch these to know that he never even was charged for killing Charles Vallow. How did he not get arrested for even a freaking minute? No wonder Lori thought she was a supreme being she could make these psycho's do anything she asked. Other than crapping himself when he was dying he got away easy!