I am Fijian and a big fan of both teams. It’s fair to say, teams go through peaks and troughs ….Wales is hitting a trough atm while Fiji is peaking. Heads up both countries, this is normal in rugby. Come 2027, I hope to see both teams going at it again! Rugby Wins! Vinaka Viti….heads up Wales!
Thank you mate, you guys well deserved the victory anyway, by far the better team on the day and always a friendly atmosphere between both sets of fans 🇫🇯
I really enjoy your videos mate, keep them coming. It's tough being a welsh fan at the moment. I'm not sure if the problem is Gatland, I'm more of a mind to say we just don't have the players right now. I saw a podcast in the week where Brian O'Driscoll was asking Jamie Roberts about Ben Thomas, saying Gatland thinks he's the best back in Wales, but he wasn't on his radar. I think that sums us up. All the world class backs we used to have, George North, Johnathan Davies, Liam Williams etc. have all retired now. Whilst we have talent we don't have those kind of players.
Thank you mate. Much appreciated. Yeah I guess it’s an indictment of where we are atm. I’m really struggling to see where the team can improve for next week. Really praying for a W because otherwise it’s a slippery slope to the next one 😬
Ive said this on a few posts now...look at the number of times we were 5m out with an overlap guaranteed try and we fluffed it (about 4 in 2nd half, i think 2 or 3 more in the first) this shows for the most part we actually played very well and the set piece was working. I genuinely believe its the pressure of the win in the heads panic at the try line. If we had nailed all those chances we would be talking about a masterclass win over fiji - Ref plumtree I think you might be underestimating how hard it is to tackle these massive fijians - although I will agree it might have been better to have botham in the fiji game just for the extra he gives and might have been able to contain them more. Although one try came down the wing, where costelow should not have been so that is a concern, honestly I didn't see why we had him on the bench too small for fiji, AND we already had 10 cover with Ben so put a big guy in there like Eddie James or at least a specialist like Hathaway
Yeah spot-on exactly. There’s nothing more that I can add to that, to be honest, it’s such fine margins, and when we’re completely devoid of any confidence, those fine margins tend to go against you
Another brilliantly insightful review, Christian! It’s fantastic to see Your confidence, articulation and general demeanour in your videos get better and better with every video you make. Your videos are EXCELLENT and I really look forward to them! Keep up the great work!! Now…. Down to the game….. a shambles in my opinion. We are totally devoid of skill, imagination, execution, flare and the basics of rugby. We are the most boring team in the world. I literally fell asleep between the 45 and 60 minute mark because we offered nothing. Full time whistle came and I just carried on with my day like nothing happened. I’m a die hard Wales fan but even I have no emotional energy invested in the game right now and it’s really sad for me to say that. Credit to Fiji. They were brilliant. We have been on the right side of the scoreline more often than not in the close games against them but they totally deserved the win. They smashed us. And I thought the ref did everything he could to help Wales. If we lose to Australia, which I think we will, then I can’t see us winning a game until we play Japan in the summer (and even that’s not going to be an easy tour) One thing I disagree with you on is Winnett. He made a very poor effort to tackle Muntz when he scored his try. And whilst he is fairly solid under the high ball, whenever he gets the ball in attack, the play completely dies. I would like to see someone else given a chance at 15. I dunno who Gatland will pick for the Aus game and I wouldn’t want to be in his position to pick either. Fact is, the players we have right now just aren’t good enough.
Thanks mate, I really appreciate you saying that appreciate you supporting me this whole time. Legend 👍🏼 First of all what you said about, feeling no emotion is what I find really worrying at the moment the longer this goes on for the more and more people are gonna feel that way, and I’m just gonna stop switching on to watch. If these games weren’t on 328, you’d have to imagine that hardly anyone would even watch them. It’s not a good look There’s just a severe lack of composure Amberleaf, and I don’t really see how he’s going to turn things around at this point, but on the other hand is pointless sacking him because who do you bring in but then if we keep him in post and we lose all of the games in the six Nations like you point out is potentially likely can we afford to carry on like this On a sidenote, I literally got free tickets for commenting on an Instagram post for Vodafone because on Friday they were just giving away free tickets and I was reading the comments and they were just given away multiple amount of tickets for free in my opinion because they haven’t been able to sell them and they don’t want the stadium to. For as long as I can remember tickets for Wales games of been like hotcakes and has been extremely difficult to get your hands on them now with the fact that they are charging £60 to go watch Fiji (And it’s more if you want to watch South Africa) Your pricing, average people out of the game I know you can’t even feel the stadium to the point where you’re just handing out free tickets to people on Instagram. Extremely worrying
I feel sick to the core that we have fallen to such a massive low. A once great rugby nation is no more. Perhaps we should play the likes of Spain and Portugal?
@@Gilboy63 the Celtic DNA is not conducive to modern power rugby. Take a leaf out of Irelands book and import some South Pacific power - the ones developed in the NZ rugby systems the best option.
Fellow Welshmen lets face reality.We are not big enough ,strong enough or physical enough .Total lack of power in all the players.Not one of the squad will make the Lions tour next year.Simply not good enough. This demise has been coming for years .Just look at the regions squads made up of players no better than players playing semi pro.Boys against men sadly.
@@pauledwards7340 not picking players out of position might also be a good idea. (Also, having some backs on your bench might also be a good idea 🤔) Wainwright is a flanker not an 8. For some reason? they won't select Morgan Morris, who's the best 8 in Wales hands down. Dan Thomas (blues) is in awesome form. Thomas Young is another who's always great, won't get selected. Harris Deaves, another. Morgan Morse, another. James Fender. Teddy Williams. Form Backs - Reuben Morgan Williams, Dan Edwards, Keiran Williams, Jarod Evans, Keelan Giles, Eddie James, Jonny Williams, Tomi Lewis, Tom Rogers.
It’s not looking good unfortunately. Going to keep the rest of my negative comments to myself though. Lets hope we can put in a good performance against Australia! We have some super talented players we really do, let’s hope they put this behind them and shine on the next one! Great video as always!
I think people underestimated Fiji, they had some quality players coming in this week. They do put pressure on and they can capitalise when they have only a few chances. I think we need to be patient at the moment, we know the quality players are there, it needs the coaching and cohesiveness to come together. But it’s fair to ask questions about the setup.
I think you point about Fiji is fair, I just think we are right to expect more at home from the team against another team that is kind of on the same level as us. Although they are obviously further on in their journey than us
I think that’s it for Gats he’ll either leave or get sacked before 6Nats. Fiji was his get out of jail free card but they came to Cardiff to play and win. In 2 weeks we will be discussing who is brave enough to coach a side with the poison chalice. Great video as usual, thanks for posting keep them coming
I am positive for the future. However, for us to bounce back, we have to reach the bottom. Unfortunately I don’t believe we have reached the bottom yet. More pain to come.
I thought we’d lose against Fiji and unfortunately I think we’ll lose to Aus. You can see they have progressed. I know they were getting well beaten in the rugby championship but a gulf is now appearing again between the northern and southern hemisphere teams. Winnett was ok in offence but I have no confidence in him as a last line of defence. The tackle was there to be made on Muntz and he didn’t fancy it.
Good review of the game and agree with all of it. You’re right that we can no longer talk about it being a young squad, Australia are in a similar place but they have developed a great deal quicker. I did not understand the scrum replacements a couple of minutes into the second half? Also Ben Thomas kicking to start the match? It did not add anything. I rate Ben Thomas highly but Sunday was not his best game. The coaching team have to stop this experimenting and decide who is 10, who are the centres etc. I would rather loose and feel that the players will grow into their roles. I was also disappointed at Will Rowlands, again I don’t like criticising individual players, but he gave away a couple of unnessary penalties which killed off momentum. I felt before the game that if Fiji were close going into the second half that they had a good chance of winning, they got better as the game went and Wales worse. Confidence is a hard thing to coach, but sadly demoralising is not.
Uphill struggle from here on in, boys. I can see Tshiunza at 6. Totally agree on subs. Where was the forethought, the planning? We need a mental coach too. I don’t mean a coach who’s mental, you get what I mean
I think we’re all going to be mental before to long 😂 No idea what he’s going to do from this point in. Maybe Tshiunza at 6 but I have no idea how he can improve to squad now
Good player, Got the raw athleticism I just think he had a poor game and there’s a lot of inaccuracies and mental mistakes. He was a top Takala, but I also miss the most as well and give away a few penalties. No doubt in the effort and the ability he’s got. Maybe he just needs time to mature
Same was said after, Steve Hansen left,when we lost 10 on the bounce, to small not good enough, same old tropes, that side when on to a golden era, we just lost to a team, that ply their trade in the English premier and France, and have been together a long time, beat England and Australia, they were a bit more street wise. Our time will come soon.
My team against Australia- 1 - G.Thomas 2 - D. Lake 3 - H. Thomas 4 - W. Rowlands 5 - Teddy Williams 6 - C. Tsuinza 7 - J.Morgan 8. - J.Botham 9. - E. Bevan 10 - Andscombe 11 - B.Murray 12 - B.Thomas 13 - M. Llewylyn 14 - R. Dyer 15 - Winnet Wainwright hasn't got his edge back that's why Botham takes his place for me. Bevan gets ahead of Tomos just looks a little sharper to me, Assirati hasn't got the size or strength for international rugby sadly. Plumtree on the bench to cover he missed too many tackles to start , tomos Williams also on bench to take control if it gets away from Bevan. If gatland stays or goes the outcome of the games won't be any different for the next 3-4 games maybe worse if he does go, I say let him do what he's got to do , if the 6 nations don't get better then we respectfully thank him for past services and trying his best with a broken system and hope we can find someone who knows how to get the boys blood boiling again. The difference I see between this team and gatlands golden boys of yonder years I remember seeing the anger..the ferociouty in thier eyes as they were running at the opposition there was no doubt whether they were going to flatten the opponent they were running at did not matter how big they were! they had true dragon passion boiling in thier blood they looked like they would take anybody on! This team I see the talent but I also see doubt...... WE NEED SHAUN EDWARDS BACK!
Shaun Edwards could help to be fair. To be honest, it’s hard to argue with any of your assessment it makes some really solid points and I don’t think getting rid of the head coach will improve things at the moment. The players just seem like they have no confidence or aggression like you said
It's hard not to moan, unfortunately. Feel for Costelow as hes catching flack, but he should never have been on the bench, we needed a utility back, especially with Chicken and Ben Thomas on the pitch. I think we have more in the tank, we just need a result or 2 for a bit of confidence. In the last 20, we looked completely deflated.
We're in a horrible position now where Gatland probably does deserve to go, but there aren't any obvious candidates (we could realistically get) who could come in. You're right about Plumtree- he's got a good highlight reel but doesn't have what you want to see in a 6 on a basic level. One positive though, even though he made some bad errors, the attacking shape looked much better with Thomas at 12- for the first time in a long time we didn't look predictable. Shame it only lasted 20 minutes
We had a good first 20, Blair Murray looked pretty good on debut and Cam Winnett continues to impress at 15. Minus that not much to be happy about! You get the feeling it's _just_ starting to click but it's felt like that every game this year and as you said how long can we say that that's enough? If Italy don't play like they did against Argentina in next year's six nations then we're looking at another wooden spoon. In my opinion Gatland has to go. He's a good coach who's done a lot for Wales but he is not the man for this job. Only issue is who do you bring in to replace him! As Squidge said in his video there's no right answer.
Yeah exactly, you’re so right and I agree with everything you said. I hate calling for the coaches head, but at this point, the question is has he lost the changing room but then the more important point as you said is if he has lost the change room and they get rid of him who the hell are they going to bring in?
Fed up of people saying Wales don't have the players coming through anymore which is completely untrue. Just looked up our playing population numbers on Wikipedia...We have a whopping 122408 adult male players and 114500 of teen males players registered in Wales! Only England has more players registered in those 2 categories yet we have a mere population of 3 million compared to England's 60 million !! It's the horrific standard of coaching, conditioning and player pathways is what's killing Wales off. I have seen so many talented players over the years at amateur level who were more than good enough to crack it pro level. When people ask them why they didn't want it/make it, they say it's because it's either not worth it or it's just far to political, E.G Cai Evans. He would have never have been a pro player, never mind an international player if it weren't for his dad. Gatland has lost his legacy and reputation for me, with that press conference filled with excuses. It's unacceptable at any level, never mind international level, for the basics to be so unbelievably poor!! Also electing a 6/2 split bench as well with no real cover for numerous positions is a nightmare and Costellow comes on at 11 to mark Radradra...Utterly brain dead thinking from Gatland and the coaches. Looking at the pre match interview and after images of the game, the players just look constantly deflated and fed up but they cant do anything about it...Says it all really. How many more embarrassing defeats to the likes of Scotland, Italy, Georgia and now Fiji is it going to take for someone to make the harsh calls we desperately needed for the last 25 years!?
Very frustrating day, when it started so brightly, but the team that was put out I agreed with apart from Jac Morgan Nicky smith, Eddie James on the bench , Costtelo i don't rate as a 10 let alone a winger, thought Camron did well along with Max Lewellyn, but Wales as a 15 seemed to deflate when Tommy left the field, and then Fiji scored as you say through a gap that was wider than the M4. Exactly the same thing against Georgia happend, Wales started well but as the game went on mistake after mistake happened or ill disipline, Georgia's covidence grew and Wales lost. I don't know what to suggest any more there was enough quality and experience to win that game, but once Wales go into their shells thats game over, we are missing leaders who need to be screaming out orders and taking the game by the scruff of the neck. I have no Idea what will happen next week we should on paper have a chance, but confidence is so brittle at the moment if things start to go wrong we're toast.
Yeah spot on Clive. So many small mistakes and they just snowball. No idea where the leadership was. We had experience on the pitch but it was just falling apart. I think brittle is a great way to explain it
Nice hands from Costellow in the build up to the last try. Hope they say to old man Anscombe you've had your chips. As for Gatlands pointers to Morgan Morris, are we sure he hasn't got Morgan Morris and Plumtree confused? Enough of this farce - go Warren
Yeah, Costello’s hands were lovely actually. Some of the hands for the trays were excellent, but there was far too many balls down also when we were in attack in situations.
Smith’s side of the scrum was excellent. I think we have good potential, but Rowlands and Beard don’t, currently, have the power to make a difference. This team would be more dynamic: Smith Lake Griffin Teddy and Freddie Plumtree Wainwright Morgan Tomos ? James Llewellyn Murray Winnett Dyer
A lot better performance by Wales the squad is undoubtably alot stronger than the summer The young talent is still learning at test level Wales have made alot of progress since the 6Ns As for thematches against Australia and S.Africa Well again i dont really see Wales pulling off any victories here I do however expect Wales to be close against Australia [maybe best chance of nicking a win ?] Against S.Africa well it may be a very hard lesson But Wales will learn from these matches and should be better in the 2025 6Ns
Hi Christian, Being honest I thought we could have won this game, just don't know what happend. The basics was just not there just gutted mate. Catch you soon mate take care
Yeah I completely agree with you mate, a lack of basic skills and just composure when we were in the red zone or on the attack. It’s really disappointing and it’s hard to know where we go from here if we can’t beat Australia this week we’re screwed😂
Watching as a neutral what stood out to me was how physically out matched Wales where. The maul was good but don't see the value in it with the new rules where you now have to use after 1 stop
I think gats has to go now, he looks like he doesn't want to be there anymore. Totally agree that the Costelow/Bevan thing should have been kept in house.
@@TheWelshSportsPodcast Completely agree with both of you. Another point is, would having a 9 play wildly out of position instead of a 10 have made any real difference?! I don't even think it was the 6-2 split that was the problem, it was not picking an outside back instead of Costelow like you said Christian
Yeah, I’m willing Costelow on so much and I just want him to perform so people can get off his back, but it just seems like everything is against him at the moment it’s so unfortunate
I feel for you having to try & make positives out of a performance like that christian. We have a few really decent quality players but far too many are just not international class in my opinion.
Yes, not an easy atm 😂 I think there is the makings of a good team, but there’s just no confidence from anyone top to bottom and I don’t know if we don’t be Australia where the next one will come from🤷🏻♂️
Ive watched a few podcasts and some youtube vids and have not heard what i thought was the best "take" that you had: when the welsh get within the 22meter line or goal line they failed to score 4-5 times. That was the whole game right there. Excellent analysis. I was eapecially frustrated with rowlands on that i thought he didnt go as hard as he could on the goal line when he turned it over that first or 2nd time. I thought i remembered him as a more powerful ball carryer? disappointing. I agree on plumtree also. Get reffell and jac M in at same time idk why they "have" to both play 7 when other guys can move about positions. Need their carrying. Have plumtree as a bench guy idk. The england game it looks like itoje and martin are their best guys on their pack, i didnt feel that with wales middle row. Despite them being graded highly by walesonline. I dont know enough about tchuinza either to judge him. I loved llewellyn and winnet is a smart player ive changed my opinion on him. I wish he was a bigger guy. I would have liked hathaway on the bench over costelow or dyer. But again, i dont know much on rugby im an american lol. If an NFL team like my Packers gets within 10 yards of the goal line 4 times and come up with 0 points it would be a guarantee loss of game!
Thanks Jacob, you sound like you know plenty to me👍🏼 Yeah I’m not sure what was wrong with Rowlands maybe he was just tired or something but it was very early on in the game and when the line break happened he wasn’t even working hard to get back and tried to recover if you watch your back. Quite disappointing Unfortunately I don’t know what the answer could be. There’s not that many players he could bring that would necessarily improve the squad. Maybe changing someone in the back row might help the balance, but he said he’s definitely not going to play Morgan and Tommy together so I don’t know what he can do. If you’re a Panthers fan That’s a tough situation for the last couple of years😂
@@TheWelshSportsPodcast oh golly the poor panthers. Lol. I've been a green Bay Packers fan forever! I've been blessed with 3 good QBs in my lifetime, Brett favre, Aaron Rodgers and now Jordan Love is good. Unlike the bears who have basically never had a good QB! Panthers changed ownership a few years ago and I think new owner thinks he knows more than coaches on drafting players. The Squidge guy mentioned Rowlands also having. A bad game I guess your right who else would go in? I have no idea
Desperately disappointed- two turning points ~ Grady’s injury stuffed the attack and the replacement front row stuffed the defence. Great first 20 mins when all went to plan but we can’t seem to be on the positive end of things turning our way. Keep the faith however.
Are you from another planet? 😂 Wales is a rugby powerhouse and was world number 1 a few of years ago. Rugby is probably their biggest and highest national team standing in any sport. One of the originals of the game
While I disagreed with the decision to go with a 6-2 split on the bench, because I don’t think Wales have the required quality of depth, I think if you want to do it you’re better putting Ben Thomas on the bench as a 10 and 12 option so that you’ve not got a 10 option who can only play 10 and has no idea what he’s doing outside that. The fact that Costellow came on also clearly shows that they hadn’t trained with the possibility of a winger or centre going off. If Rio Dyer is on then bench for example, Costellow doesn’t get changed and ready to go in. The fact Costellow got changed shows a complete lack of preparation. Gatland is getting too much of a free ride with the lack of depth when he’s doing a lot wrong himself
Gatland must take some responsibility for this loss,not enough backs on the bench and players out of position,Wainright is a good player but he is not an eight. Taking your captain off just after half time is bizarre.
Gutted but sadly not surprised. I think my faith in Gatland and his coaches has gone, complete lack of competence and awareness of how the modern game works is letting down players that have some potential to be really good going forwards. Few players were let downs for me too, Rowlands looked old and unfit, Plumtree is a complete liability, Reffell's discipline this season has been shocking, Griffin clearly wasnt back to full fitness, less said about Elias the better and the first time I've seen a game where it looks like Anscombe's age/injuries are catching up to him. Given all that and injuries, I think I'd go for the 23 below for next weekend (obviously this very rough and thrown together); 1 G Thomas 2 Lake 3 H Thomas 4 Te Williams 5 Beard 6 Botham 7 Morgan 8 Wainwright 9 To Williams (if To Williams not fit Bevan at 9 and R Williams at 21) 10 Anscombe 11 Murray 12 James 13 Llewellyn 14 Rogers 15 Winnett 16 Lloyd 17 Smith 18 Assiratti 19 F Thomas 20 Tshiunza 21 Bevan (if To Williams not fit Bevan at 9 and R Williams at 21) 22 B Thomas 23 Dyer
Yes spot-on, and it’s quite hard to continue to have faith at this point, because, unlike when this was happening to Steve Hansen, we’re not really seeing the progression in the play and there’s no real indication of what we’re trying to do
100% agree. There doesn't really seem to be a plan or end goal or something they are aiming for and its been like that for over a year with no sign of improvement across 9 matches. I genuinely don't see another win until maybe next summer if they have some tests in Japan
Yeah I’m completely with you on that one. The only thing that has improved is a few individual players and that helped paper over the cracks slightly, but as a team we’re very stagnant.
Rugby is a game for all shapes and sizes … think this Wales side disproves that . Lack of size and physicality is killing us . Ben Thomas may have good hands but is too small at this level as is Cam Winnett.
Its poor, players in mid twenties plus aren't young players, the benefit of the doubt doesnt cut it at international level, we dont have a settled squad to drop a player into to give them a fair crack. No speed or power especially in the backs, the 10/12 doesnt work basic handling errors and suicide passes. Dark times if this continues.
for me gats has to go now. he's had enough time and I'm sick of hearing the same excuses that aren't even good reasons. he's lost all respect I think now so I don't see how he fit to continue we just don't have the players to play his rugby. I think we have a great set of backs but there just not playing into it.
People need to calm down,Wales never won in Australia since 1967, that's with the golden era of the 70s, we need patience, Welsh football went through the same process with Toshack, he blooded a load of young players that he took from Brian Flynns under 21s the results were poor and he was hounded out, but a few years later they become a force, last time a team won in Twickenham and came to cardiff was Argentina, and Wales beat them, it could happen again, lets be more paitent.
Thoughts on the likes of Mike Phillips, Dan bigger and Jamie Roberts coming out publicly to question Gatland? Cant say Gatland has helped himself some bizarre decision's such as making Cory Hill captain in the summer. I really dont get how a high level professional sports set up sends on the wrong sub in a match..... If money wasnt a problem i would love to see Ronan Ogara come in as head coach and pay Shaun Edwards whatever he wants to get him back from France.
I think Robert plants are very fair and balanced. Mike Phillips, though still seems a little bit salty that Gatland didn’t let him get his hundred caps😂 Yeah, it’s all quite bizarre there’s a A lot of stuff going on but doesn’t make sense and just seems amateur at the moment. That coaching set up would be great I don’t think it’s going to happen though
Well done Fiji. Wales are a shambles. Wales should of been 20-0 and coasting but self Implosion started as it has since Gatland and his new coaches came in. Wales have some quality players but Gatlands ridged system kills all flair and he needs to start picking players on form not players that he wants in his squad. There are players that need dropping .... Plumtree, Costelow, Assarati, All were poor and The full bench where very poor . Im sorry but Australia going to smash us next week and we have no hope against SA ..
There’s just a sever lack of confidence and it shows. As soon as they come under pressure mistakes creep in. Not really sure who else he could bring in?
@@TheWelshSportsPodcast Teddy Williams, Taine Basham , Morgan Morris all have made more tackles and turnovers this season. Reuben Morgan-Williams , Aled Davies have better kick conversation than any other Welsh scrum half. Ioan Lloyd and Daniel Edwards have controlled games better than Costelow this season. There are players putting their hands up but never get picked.
Costelow ! Pam, pam, pam ? Pam ydy ffccyin Costelow mewn y tim? Roedd gormod o camgymeriadau yn hanner yr ail ( dim just Costelow - ond pan e'n ar y pitch allwn ni ddim yn ennill ).
@TheWelshSportsPodcast Teg. Doedd Costelow ddim yn golli'r gem ar ei hun.... ond doedd e ddim yn helpu. Mae'r problemau mwya 'na Costelow gyda'r tim ar hyn o bryd
That’s a decent side. I don’t think he’s gonna make wholesale changes though and I think we need to try and build some partnerships. It’s just difficult at the moment because it seems like nobody has any confidence
I am Fijian and a big fan of both teams. It’s fair to say, teams go through peaks and troughs ….Wales is hitting a trough atm while Fiji is peaking. Heads up both countries, this is normal in rugby. Come 2027, I hope to see both teams going at it again! Rugby Wins! Vinaka Viti….heads up Wales!
Thank you mate, you guys well deserved the victory anyway, by far the better team on the day and always a friendly atmosphere between both sets of fans 🇫🇯
I really enjoy your videos mate, keep them coming. It's tough being a welsh fan at the moment. I'm not sure if the problem is Gatland, I'm more of a mind to say we just don't have the players right now. I saw a podcast in the week where Brian O'Driscoll was asking Jamie Roberts about Ben Thomas, saying Gatland thinks he's the best back in Wales, but he wasn't on his radar. I think that sums us up. All the world class backs we used to have, George North, Johnathan Davies, Liam Williams etc. have all retired now. Whilst we have talent we don't have those kind of players.
Thank you mate. Much appreciated. Yeah I guess it’s an indictment of where we are atm. I’m really struggling to see where the team can improve for next week. Really praying for a W because otherwise it’s a slippery slope to the next one 😬
❤ I salute you , Wales team !!!! You given Fiji a good run ❤ , lots of love from Fiji 🇫🇯💯👍
Thank you. You guys were great and always friendly supporters. More Success coming to you soon, no doubt🇫🇯
Ive said this on a few posts now...look at the number of times we were 5m out with an overlap guaranteed try and we fluffed it (about 4 in 2nd half, i think 2 or 3 more in the first) this shows for the most part we actually played very well and the set piece was working. I genuinely believe its the pressure of the win in the heads panic at the try line.
If we had nailed all those chances we would be talking about a masterclass win over fiji -
Ref plumtree I think you might be underestimating how hard it is to tackle these massive fijians - although I will agree it might have been better to have botham in the fiji game just for the extra he gives and might have been able to contain them more.
Although one try came down the wing, where costelow should not have been so that is a concern, honestly I didn't see why we had him on the bench too small for fiji, AND we already had 10 cover with Ben so put a big guy in there like Eddie James or at least a specialist like Hathaway
Yeah spot-on exactly. There’s nothing more that I can add to that, to be honest, it’s such fine margins, and when we’re completely devoid of any confidence, those fine margins tend to go against you
Another brilliantly insightful review, Christian! It’s fantastic to see Your confidence, articulation and general demeanour in your videos get better and better with every video you make. Your videos are EXCELLENT and I really look forward to them! Keep up the great work!!
Now…. Down to the game….. a shambles in my opinion. We are totally devoid of skill, imagination, execution, flare and the basics of rugby. We are the most boring team in the world. I literally fell asleep between the 45 and 60 minute mark because we offered nothing. Full time whistle came and I just carried on with my day like nothing happened. I’m a die hard Wales fan but even I have no emotional energy invested in the game right now and it’s really sad for me to say that.
Credit to Fiji. They were brilliant. We have been on the right side of the scoreline more often than not in the close games against them but they totally deserved the win. They smashed us. And I thought the ref did everything he could to help Wales.
If we lose to Australia, which I think we will, then I can’t see us winning a game until we play Japan in the summer (and even that’s not going to be an easy tour)
One thing I disagree with you on is Winnett. He made a very poor effort to tackle Muntz when he scored his try. And whilst he is fairly solid under the high ball, whenever he gets the ball in attack, the play completely dies. I would like to see someone else given a chance at 15.
I dunno who Gatland will pick for the Aus game and I wouldn’t want to be in his position to pick either. Fact is, the players we have right now just aren’t good enough.
Thanks mate, I really appreciate you saying that appreciate you supporting me this whole time. Legend 👍🏼
First of all what you said about, feeling no emotion is what I find really worrying at the moment the longer this goes on for the more and more people are gonna feel that way, and I’m just gonna stop switching on to watch. If these games weren’t on 328, you’d have to imagine that hardly anyone would even watch them. It’s not a good look
There’s just a severe lack of composure Amberleaf, and I don’t really see how he’s going to turn things around at this point, but on the other hand is pointless sacking him because who do you bring in but then if we keep him in post and we lose all of the games in the six Nations like you point out is potentially likely can we afford to carry on like this
On a sidenote, I literally got free tickets for commenting on an Instagram post for Vodafone because on Friday they were just giving away free tickets and I was reading the comments and they were just given away multiple amount of tickets for free in my opinion because they haven’t been able to sell them and they don’t want the stadium to. For as long as I can remember tickets for Wales games of been like hotcakes and has been extremely difficult to get your hands on them now with the fact that they are charging £60 to go watch Fiji (And it’s more if you want to watch South Africa) Your pricing, average people out of the game I know you can’t even feel the stadium to the point where you’re just handing out free tickets to people on Instagram. Extremely worrying
I feel sick to the core that we have fallen to such a massive low. A once great rugby nation is no more. Perhaps we should play the likes of Spain and Portugal?
That’s how I felt after the game too 👍🏼
@@Gilboy63 the Celtic DNA is not conducive to modern power rugby. Take a leaf out of Irelands book and import some South Pacific power - the ones developed in the NZ rugby systems the best option.
Fellow Welshmen lets face reality.We are not big enough ,strong enough or physical enough .Total lack of power in all the players.Not one of the squad will make the Lions tour next year.Simply not good enough. This demise has been coming for years .Just look at the regions squads made up of players no better than players playing semi pro.Boys against men sadly.
Yeah it’s going to be a struggle. I so think we will get some boys on the lions but not many 😬
Picking in form players would be a good start, not jobs for the bois
@@jasonjones4491which in form players ? The cupboard is bare of any real talent !
@@pauledwards7340 not picking players out of position might also be a good idea. (Also, having some backs on your bench might also be a good idea 🤔) Wainwright is a flanker not an 8. For some reason? they won't select Morgan Morris, who's the best 8 in Wales hands down.
Dan Thomas (blues) is in awesome form. Thomas Young is another who's always great, won't get selected. Harris Deaves, another. Morgan Morse, another. James Fender. Teddy Williams.
Form Backs - Reuben Morgan Williams, Dan Edwards, Keiran Williams, Jarod Evans, Keelan Giles, Eddie James, Jonny Williams, Tomi Lewis, Tom Rogers.
@@jasonjones4491 Ospreys supporter by any chance ?
We should have won that one , too many mistakes, we haven’t looked that crap for 30/40 years, Winnett superb 🏴🙏🙏🏻XX
It all boils down to we didn't front up enough.
It’s not looking good unfortunately. Going to keep the rest of my negative comments to myself though. Lets hope we can put in a good performance against Australia! We have some super talented players we really do, let’s hope they put this behind them and shine on the next one! Great video as always!
Thanks Theo 👍🏼
Yeah I tried not to be negative but it was just not possible 😂
I think people underestimated Fiji, they had some quality players coming in this week. They do put pressure on and they can capitalise when they have only a few chances.
I think we need to be patient at the moment, we know the quality players are there, it needs the coaching and cohesiveness to come together. But it’s fair to ask questions about the setup.
I think you point about Fiji is fair, I just think we are right to expect more at home from the team against another team that is kind of on the same level as us. Although they are obviously further on in their journey than us
@ 100% we should expect more.
I think that’s it for Gats he’ll either leave or get sacked before 6Nats. Fiji was his get out of jail free card but they came to Cardiff to play and win. In 2 weeks we will be discussing who is brave enough to coach a side with the poison chalice. Great video as usual, thanks for posting keep them coming
Cheers Aid 👍🏼 Yeah it’s a tough one really. His last hope is this next game against Aus. After that it’s more losses on the bounce
I am positive for the future. However, for us to bounce back, we have to reach the bottom. Unfortunately I don’t believe we have reached the bottom yet. More pain to come.
That’s my more mate 🥹
I thought we’d lose against Fiji and unfortunately I think we’ll lose to Aus. You can see they have progressed. I know they were getting well beaten in the rugby championship but a gulf is now appearing again between the northern and southern hemisphere teams.
Winnett was ok in offence but I have no confidence in him as a last line of defence. The tackle was there to be made on Muntz and he didn’t fancy it.
Yeah maybe. Looked like him and Murry were both looking at each other to make the tackle. Shouldn’t have ever got to that point unfortunately 😬
Want to see Wales improve? Support the clubs and regions
I do 😂
@@cbolt4492 Get rid of the regions and support the clubs.Waled is too small for regions.
Good review of the game and agree with all of it. You’re right that we can no longer talk about it being a young squad, Australia are in a similar place but they have developed a great deal quicker. I did not understand the scrum replacements a couple of minutes into the second half? Also Ben Thomas kicking to start the match? It did not add anything. I rate Ben Thomas highly but Sunday was not his best game. The coaching team have to stop this experimenting and decide who is 10, who are the centres etc. I would rather loose and feel that the players will grow into their roles. I was also disappointed at Will Rowlands, again I don’t like criticising individual players, but he gave away a couple of unnessary penalties which killed off momentum. I felt before the game that if Fiji were close going into the second half that they had a good chance of winning, they got better as the game went and Wales worse. Confidence is a hard thing to coach, but sadly demoralising is not.
Yeah agree with everything you said tbh and I agree we need to stick with some consistency. Maybe one or 2 changes but nothing wholesale
Uphill struggle from here on in, boys. I can see Tshiunza at 6.
Totally agree on subs. Where was the forethought, the planning?
We need a mental coach too. I don’t mean a coach who’s mental, you get what I mean
I think we’re all going to be mental before to long 😂
No idea what he’s going to do from this point in. Maybe Tshiunza at 6 but I have no idea how he can improve to squad now
Plumtree had a good game at 6 I thought.
@daddystu7046 Yeah I think he's a good player he's quite a lump aswell to be fair
Good player, Got the raw athleticism I just think he had a poor game and there’s a lot of inaccuracies and mental mistakes. He was a top Takala, but I also miss the most as well and give away a few penalties. No doubt in the effort and the ability he’s got. Maybe he just needs time to mature
Same was said after, Steve Hansen left,when we lost 10 on the bounce, to small not good enough, same old tropes, that side when on to a golden era, we just lost to a team, that ply their trade in the English premier and France, and have been together a long time, beat England and Australia, they were a bit more street wise. Our time will come soon.
My team against Australia-
1 - G.Thomas
2 - D. Lake
3 - H. Thomas
4 - W. Rowlands
5 - Teddy Williams
6 - C. Tsuinza
7 - J.Morgan
8. - J.Botham
9. - E. Bevan
10 - Andscombe
11 - B.Murray
12 - B.Thomas
13 - M. Llewylyn
14 - R. Dyer
15 - Winnet
Wainwright hasn't got his edge back that's why Botham takes his place for me. Bevan gets ahead of Tomos just looks a little sharper to me, Assirati hasn't got the size or strength for international rugby sadly.
Plumtree on the bench to cover he missed too many tackles to start , tomos Williams also on bench to take control if it gets away from Bevan.
If gatland stays or goes the outcome of the games won't be any different for the next 3-4 games maybe worse if he does go, I say let him do what he's got to do , if the 6 nations don't get better then we respectfully thank him for past services and trying his best with a broken system and hope we can find someone who knows how to get the boys blood boiling again.
The difference I see between this team and gatlands golden boys of yonder years I remember seeing the anger..the ferociouty in thier eyes as they were running at the opposition there was no doubt whether they were going to flatten the opponent they were running at did not matter how big they were! they had true dragon passion boiling in thier blood they looked like they would take anybody on!
This team I see the talent but I also see doubt...... WE NEED SHAUN EDWARDS BACK!
Shaun Edwards could help to be fair. To be honest, it’s hard to argue with any of your assessment it makes some really solid points and I don’t think getting rid of the head coach will improve things at the moment. The players just seem like they have no confidence or aggression like you said
It's hard not to moan, unfortunately. Feel for Costelow as hes catching flack, but he should never have been on the bench, we needed a utility back, especially with Chicken and Ben Thomas on the pitch. I think we have more in the tank, we just need a result or 2 for a bit of confidence. In the last 20, we looked completely deflated.
Couldn’t agree more. Was not Costelows fault
We're in a horrible position now where Gatland probably does deserve to go, but there aren't any obvious candidates (we could realistically get) who could come in. You're right about Plumtree- he's got a good highlight reel but doesn't have what you want to see in a 6 on a basic level. One positive though, even though he made some bad errors, the attacking shape looked much better with Thomas at 12- for the first time in a long time we didn't look predictable. Shame it only lasted 20 minutes
Yeah just the nuts and bolts aren’t good enough for me with Plumbtree. He also gave away the first 3 point by not rolling away
We had a good first 20, Blair Murray looked pretty good on debut and Cam Winnett continues to impress at 15. Minus that not much to be happy about!
You get the feeling it's _just_ starting to click but it's felt like that every game this year and as you said how long can we say that that's enough? If Italy don't play like they did against Argentina in next year's six nations then we're looking at another wooden spoon.
In my opinion Gatland has to go. He's a good coach who's done a lot for Wales but he is not the man for this job. Only issue is who do you bring in to replace him! As Squidge said in his video there's no right answer.
Yeah exactly, you’re so right and I agree with everything you said. I hate calling for the coaches head, but at this point, the question is has he lost the changing room but then the more important point as you said is if he has lost the change room and they get rid of him who the hell are they going to bring in?
Fed up of people saying Wales don't have the players coming through anymore which is completely untrue. Just looked up our playing population numbers on Wikipedia...We have a whopping 122408 adult male players and 114500 of teen males players registered in Wales! Only England has more players registered in those 2 categories yet we have a mere population of 3 million compared to England's 60 million !! It's the horrific standard of coaching, conditioning and player pathways is what's killing Wales off. I have seen so many talented players over the years at amateur level who were more than good enough to crack it pro level. When people ask them why they didn't want it/make it, they say it's because it's either not worth it or it's just far to political, E.G Cai Evans. He would have never have been a pro player, never mind an international player if it weren't for his dad.
Gatland has lost his legacy and reputation for me, with that press conference filled with excuses. It's unacceptable at any level, never mind international level, for the basics to be so unbelievably poor!! Also electing a 6/2 split bench as well with no real cover for numerous positions is a nightmare and Costellow comes on at 11 to mark Radradra...Utterly brain dead thinking from Gatland and the coaches. Looking at the pre match interview and after images of the game, the players just look constantly deflated and fed up but they cant do anything about it...Says it all really.
How many more embarrassing defeats to the likes of Scotland, Italy, Georgia and now Fiji is it going to take for someone to make the harsh calls we desperately needed for the last 25 years!?
@@xxwales15xx33 brilliant assessment.The academies at the regions have a lot to answer for .
Such a great comment. I think you’ve basically hit all the nails on all of the heads 👏🏼👌🏼
Spot on school kids being asked to travel 2hrs each way to play is a joke.
There is no excuse for missed tackles and bad handling.
That team sheet looked good and strong. Should've won. Coach and tactics for me.
Very frustrating day, when it started so brightly, but the team that was put out I agreed with apart from Jac Morgan Nicky smith, Eddie James on the bench , Costtelo i don't rate as a 10 let alone a winger, thought Camron did well along with Max Lewellyn, but Wales as a 15 seemed to deflate when Tommy left the field, and then Fiji scored as you say through a gap that was wider than the M4.
Exactly the same thing against Georgia happend, Wales started well but as the game went on mistake after mistake happened or ill disipline, Georgia's covidence grew and Wales lost.
I don't know what to suggest any more there was enough quality and experience to win that game, but once Wales go into their shells thats game over, we are missing leaders who need to be screaming out orders and taking the game by the scruff of the neck.
I have no Idea what will happen next week we should on paper have a chance, but confidence is so brittle at the moment if things start to go wrong we're toast.
Yeah spot on Clive. So many small mistakes and they just snowball. No idea where the leadership was. We had experience on the pitch but it was just falling apart. I think brittle is a great way to explain it
Nice hands from Costellow in the build up to the last try. Hope they say to old man Anscombe you've had your chips.
As for Gatlands pointers to Morgan Morris, are we sure he hasn't got Morgan Morris and Plumtree confused?
Enough of this farce - go Warren
Yeah, Costello’s hands were lovely actually. Some of the hands for the trays were excellent, but there was far too many balls down also when we were in attack in situations.
❤ God bless Fiji 🇫🇯❤
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Smith’s side of the scrum was excellent. I think we have good potential, but Rowlands and Beard don’t, currently, have the power to make a difference.
This team would be more dynamic:
Smith Lake Griffin
Teddy and Freddie
Plumtree Wainwright Morgan
Tomos ?
James Llewellyn
Murray Winnett Dyer
I also think it's club vs country, these boys don't want to get injured.
A lot better performance by Wales the squad is undoubtably alot stronger than the summer The young talent is still learning at test level Wales have made alot of progress since the 6Ns As for thematches against Australia and S.Africa Well again i dont really see Wales pulling off any victories here I do however expect Wales to be close against Australia [maybe best chance of nicking a win ?] Against S.Africa well it may be a very hard lesson But Wales will learn from these matches and should be better in the 2025 6Ns
If we don’t beat Australia then I don’t know when our next win could be. It’s just so disappointing. I really hope the boys can pull it off next week
Biggest problem is lack of confidence. Winning is a habit and so is losing. As soon as things don't go their way they crumble.
Yeah 100% the reffell card and the Muntz try were all it took to change the trajectory of the game
Gonna keep my thoughts to myself but 100% agree with you on gatlands comments. Got tickets for SA in Cardiff which is gonna fun 😂
It’s usually a good game and the South African friends are always good value so at least you’ll enjoy yourself👌🏼😂
Aye as you mentioned, they are still my team regardless how painful I will still be watching!
Exactly my worry is not everyone has the same feelings and it kind of feels like people are just getting fed up
Hi Christian, Being honest I thought we could have won this game, just don't know what happend. The basics was just not there just gutted mate. Catch you soon mate take care
Yeah I completely agree with you mate, a lack of basic skills and just composure when we were in the red zone or on the attack. It’s really disappointing and it’s hard to know where we go from here if we can’t beat Australia this week we’re screwed😂
@@TheWelshSportsPodcast Agree, I don't what our Welsh team to be the team we had in the late 1980's and the 90's when we were rock bottom
Watching as a neutral what stood out to me was how physically out matched Wales where. The maul was good but don't see the value in it with the new rules where you now have to use after 1 stop
I think gats has to go now, he looks like he doesn't want to be there anymore. Totally agree that the Costelow/Bevan thing should have been kept in house.
He’s just deflecting but unfortunately he seams untouchable
@@TheWelshSportsPodcast Completely agree with both of you. Another point is, would having a 9 play wildly out of position instead of a 10 have made any real difference?! I don't even think it was the 6-2 split that was the problem, it was not picking an outside back instead of Costelow like you said Christian
Poor Costelow, he's young and having a hard enough time as it is tbh
Yeah, I’m willing Costelow on so much and I just want him to perform so people can get off his back, but it just seems like everything is against him at the moment it’s so unfortunate
I feel for you having to try & make positives out of a performance like that christian. We have a few really decent quality players but far too many are just not international class in my opinion.
Yes, not an easy atm 😂 I think there is the makings of a good team, but there’s just no confidence from anyone top to bottom and I don’t know if we don’t be Australia where the next one will come from🤷🏻♂️
Ive watched a few podcasts and some youtube vids and have not heard what i thought was the best "take" that you had: when the welsh get within the 22meter line or goal line they failed to score 4-5 times. That was the whole game right there. Excellent analysis. I was eapecially frustrated with rowlands on that i thought he didnt go as hard as he could on the goal line when he turned it over that first or 2nd time. I thought i remembered him as a more powerful ball carryer? disappointing. I agree on plumtree also. Get reffell and jac M in at same time idk why they "have" to both play 7 when other guys can move about positions. Need their carrying. Have plumtree as a bench guy idk. The england game it looks like itoje and martin are their best guys on their pack, i didnt feel that with wales middle row. Despite them being graded highly by walesonline. I dont know enough about tchuinza either to judge him. I loved llewellyn and winnet is a smart player ive changed my opinion on him. I wish he was a bigger guy. I would have liked hathaway on the bench over costelow or dyer. But again, i dont know much on rugby im an american lol. If an NFL team like my Packers gets within 10 yards of the goal line 4 times and come up with 0 points it would be a guarantee loss of game!
Thanks Jacob, you sound like you know plenty to me👍🏼 Yeah I’m not sure what was wrong with Rowlands maybe he was just tired or something but it was very early on in the game and when the line break happened he wasn’t even working hard to get back and tried to recover if you watch your back. Quite disappointing
Unfortunately I don’t know what the answer could be. There’s not that many players he could bring that would necessarily improve the squad. Maybe changing someone in the back row might help the balance, but he said he’s definitely not going to play Morgan and Tommy together so I don’t know what he can do.
If you’re a Panthers fan That’s a tough situation for the last couple of years😂
@@TheWelshSportsPodcast oh golly the poor panthers. Lol. I've been a green Bay Packers fan forever! I've been blessed with 3 good QBs in my lifetime, Brett favre, Aaron Rodgers and now Jordan Love is good. Unlike the bears who have basically never had a good QB! Panthers changed ownership a few years ago and I think new owner thinks he knows more than coaches on drafting players. The Squidge guy mentioned Rowlands also having. A bad game I guess your right who else would go in? I have no idea
I don’t see a big problem with the team. I see a big problem with the obvious fear of failure that’s coached into its players. It stifles creativity.
Desperately disappointed- two turning points ~ Grady’s injury stuffed the attack and the replacement front row stuffed the defence. Great first 20 mins when all went to plan but we can’t seem to be on the positive end of things turning our way. Keep the faith however.
I think as soon as Muntz Scored their heads dropped, and all the dogs cracked in, and it just went downhill from there
Is Rugby popular in Wales? It's good to see Rugby spread across the planet... who knew it would reach the Welsh
Are you from another planet? 😂 Wales is a rugby powerhouse and was world number 1 a few of years ago. Rugby is probably their biggest and highest national team standing in any sport. One of the originals of the game
@@teekay3983 Hook line and sinker
RWC semifinalists in 2019 and Grand slam champions. We're shit at the moment, but we'll be back.
@@RRTNZ last time Wales beat NZ...? Likely your grandfather was too young to see it.
Grand slam champions 🫢
😂
While I disagreed with the decision to go with a 6-2 split on the bench, because I don’t think Wales have the required quality of depth, I think if you want to do it you’re better putting Ben Thomas on the bench as a 10 and 12 option so that you’ve not got a 10 option who can only play 10 and has no idea what he’s doing outside that. The fact that Costellow came on also clearly shows that they hadn’t trained with the possibility of a winger or centre going off. If Rio Dyer is on then bench for example, Costellow doesn’t get changed and ready to go in. The fact Costellow got changed shows a complete lack of preparation. Gatland is getting too much of a free ride with the lack of depth when he’s doing a lot wrong himself
Yeah spot on. It hard to Understand what happened or what the overall thought processes at the moment we seem to be on a high road to nothing
Gatland must take some responsibility for this loss,not enough backs on the bench and players out of position,Wainright is a good player but he is not an eight. Taking your captain off just after half time is bizarre.
I have no idea why he took Lake off. He’s one of the few players that can be physically dominant on the pitch that we have
Gutted but sadly not surprised. I think my faith in Gatland and his coaches has gone, complete lack of competence and awareness of how the modern game works is letting down players that have some potential to be really good going forwards. Few players were let downs for me too, Rowlands looked old and unfit, Plumtree is a complete liability, Reffell's discipline this season has been shocking, Griffin clearly wasnt back to full fitness, less said about Elias the better and the first time I've seen a game where it looks like Anscombe's age/injuries are catching up to him.
Given all that and injuries, I think I'd go for the 23 below for next weekend (obviously this very rough and thrown together);
1 G Thomas
2 Lake
3 H Thomas
4 Te Williams
5 Beard
6 Botham
7 Morgan
8 Wainwright
9 To Williams (if To Williams not fit Bevan at 9 and R Williams at 21)
10 Anscombe
11 Murray
12 James
13 Llewellyn
14 Rogers
15 Winnett
16 Lloyd
17 Smith
18 Assiratti
19 F Thomas
20 Tshiunza
21 Bevan (if To Williams not fit Bevan at 9 and R Williams at 21)
22 B Thomas
23 Dyer
Yes spot-on, and it’s quite hard to continue to have faith at this point, because, unlike when this was happening to Steve Hansen, we’re not really seeing the progression in the play and there’s no real indication of what we’re trying to do
100% agree. There doesn't really seem to be a plan or end goal or something they are aiming for and its been like that for over a year with no sign of improvement across 9 matches. I genuinely don't see another win until maybe next summer if they have some tests in Japan
Yeah I’m completely with you on that one. The only thing that has improved is a few individual players and that helped paper over the cracks slightly, but as a team we’re very stagnant.
Rugby is a game for all shapes and sizes … think this Wales side disproves that . Lack of size and physicality is killing us .
Ben Thomas may have good hands but is too small at this level as is Cam Winnett.
Same size as leigh halfpenny
I’m not so sure I don’t think their size is an issue, It just seems like even the big players are lacking physicality at the moment it makes no sense
Its poor, players in mid twenties plus aren't young players, the benefit of the doubt doesnt cut it at international level, we dont have a settled squad to drop a player into to give them a fair crack. No speed or power especially in the backs, the 10/12 doesnt work basic handling errors and suicide passes. Dark times if this continues.
Yeah I don’t buy the young side narrative anymore. Players have been blooded and there needs to be signs of some development now
for me gats has to go now. he's had enough time and I'm sick of hearing the same excuses that aren't even good reasons. he's lost all respect I think now so I don't see how he fit to continue we just don't have the players to play his rugby. I think we have a great set of backs but there just not playing into it.
I have no idea mate. It’s just a mess. Zero confidence zero accuracy. God knows what the answer is at this point 🤷🏻♂️
Can we even afford to get rid of Gatland at this point ?
Disagree about Jac Morgan. Made a big impact when he came off the bench and his carrying led to Ellis Bevan’s try. Should start against Australia.
Yeah that’s fair. Probably a heat of the moment comment. He must start against Aus. He can be a difference maker
IF Gatland goes, the ladt guy i want is Shaun Edwards, who would probably retain the backroom staff
I like Love shout to be fair 👌🏼
Let’s be honest. They can lose all these games so long as there are signs of improvement/development - and they beat England in the 6N.
“ As long as we beat the English, we don’t care”
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Plumtree made the most tackles, can't hit everything and everyone and Wainwright was quiet. Is Wainwright match fit yet? Have my doubts.
Maybe Wainwright drop to the bench for this next game and put Plumtree 8?
People need to calm down,Wales never won in Australia since 1967, that's with the golden era of the 70s, we need patience, Welsh football went through the same process with Toshack, he blooded a load of young players that he took from Brian Flynns under 21s the results were poor and he was hounded out, but a few years later they become a force, last time a team won in Twickenham and came to cardiff was Argentina, and Wales beat them, it could happen again, lets be more paitent.
Chwarae teg butty !
Thoughts on the likes of Mike Phillips, Dan bigger and Jamie Roberts coming out publicly to question Gatland?
Cant say Gatland has helped himself some bizarre decision's such as making Cory Hill captain in the summer. I really dont get how a high level professional sports set up sends on the wrong sub in a match..... If money wasnt a problem i would love to see Ronan Ogara come in as head coach and pay Shaun Edwards whatever he wants to get him back from France.
I think Robert plants are very fair and balanced. Mike Phillips, though still seems a little bit salty that Gatland didn’t let him get his hundred caps😂
Yeah, it’s all quite bizarre there’s a A lot of stuff going on but doesn’t make sense and just seems amateur at the moment. That coaching set up would be great I don’t think it’s going to happen though
No. MOVE ON FROM PAST!
Well done Fiji. Wales are a shambles. Wales should of been 20-0 and coasting but self Implosion started as it has since Gatland and his new coaches came in. Wales have some quality players but Gatlands ridged system kills all flair and he needs to start picking players on form not players that he wants in his squad. There are players that need dropping .... Plumtree, Costelow, Assarati, All were poor and The full bench where very poor . Im sorry but Australia going to smash us next week and we have no hope against SA ..
There’s just a sever lack of confidence and it shows. As soon as they come under pressure mistakes creep in. Not really sure who else he could bring in?
@@TheWelshSportsPodcast Teddy Williams, Taine Basham , Morgan Morris all have made more tackles and turnovers this season. Reuben Morgan-Williams , Aled Davies have better kick conversation than any other Welsh scrum half. Ioan Lloyd and Daniel Edwards have controlled games better than Costelow this season. There are players putting their hands up but never get picked.
Yeah, That’s a fair point, but I don’t see any of those players coming in and being a difference make it enough to get us over the line if you get me
Winett is too small simple
Was at the game our best player on the day.
Its just a bad day at the office
Been a bad year to be fair
No - deep, ongoing failure. Something seriously wrong.
Fiji should be 30+ to 19
Yeah I Forgot to mention that forward pass
What is the record for consecutive losses for a tier one team? Wales must be close.
That’s a good question. Can’t find the answer online but we have to be close
I believe Italy holds 36 successive defeats before beating Wales in 2022
Reality Wales, we ain’t got the players. Lacking ball carriers and power as well, keep searching the planet cos nothing coming through.
So true.
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Let’s be honest since Shaun Edwards left Wales went down hill quick
Seams that way James
Costelow shouldnt kick sgain
No sore why Ben Thomas isn’t taking the kicks 🤷🏻♂️
Costelow ! Pam, pam, pam ? Pam ydy ffccyin Costelow mewn y tim? Roedd gormod o camgymeriadau yn hanner yr ail ( dim just Costelow - ond pan e'n ar y pitch allwn ni ddim yn ennill ).
Dwi ddim yn meddwl bod a gem hwn wedi colli oherwyth Costelow. Maer bai yn mynd across the board
@TheWelshSportsPodcast Teg. Doedd Costelow ddim yn golli'r gem ar ei hun.... ond doedd e ddim yn helpu. Mae'r problemau mwya 'na Costelow gyda'r tim ar hyn o bryd
Ie cytino
My 23 v Australia. 1.Smith. 2.lake. 3.Thomas 4.rowlands. 5.beard. 6.morgan. 7.raffel. 8. Wainwright. 9. T.williams. 10.b.thomas. 11dyer. 12. Tompkins. 13.llewellyn. 14.hethaway. 15 winnett.16. Elias. 17. G.thomas. 18.griffin. 19.f.thomas. 20.botham. 21.bevan. 22.anscombe. 23.e. james.
That’s a decent side. I don’t think he’s gonna make wholesale changes though and I think we need to try and build some partnerships. It’s just difficult at the moment because it seems like nobody has any confidence
I think Beard needs to be dropped.
Maybe