I’m Underwhelmed By The Underworld⎮Percy Jackson Season 1 Episode 7 Review
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So, we have the second last episode for you today. This one I think I liked the least of the bunch, and had a number of changes that I don't think worked all that well at the end of the day. So, yeah let's discuss shall we? 
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in my opinion, a majority of the issues that the show has could've been improved if the show had more time - like longer episodes or a few more episodes. in the books there are so many details and little moments that build upon each other, however the production team wasn't able to fit all of these details and moments into the show because of the time restraints. there could've been so many more character moments, plot points/scenes, and characters interactions...
what ive been thinking. they can lower the budget if they want, as they add more episodes
the thing for me is: I have actually had problems with a lot of the changes so far in previous episodes too, but not because of the changes themselves--for me it was about the fact that everyone, including Rick, were just hyping up so much the fact that it was going to be so so loyal to the books and nothing like the movies at all but in the end it just... wasn't that loyal. Like please, at least tell us what we're getting and don't pretend it counts as loyal to the books just because the author was working on it.
Rick literallyu said multiple times that while it WAS gonna be very loyal to the books but he was gonna make some changes that he thought were neccesary since he already wrote the other books and can now foreshadow and stuff. Also, the show is VERY loyal to the books compared to SO MANY other adaptations
This show really needed longer or more episodes (preferably both). Hopefully we’ll get either or both in future seasons. This is Disney, don’t tell me they can’t afford more and/or longer episodes.
Especially since they have been publishing the whole PJO universe for so long, you'd think they'd see the numbers the books garnered and put more time into this adaptation with retrospect to the last disastrous attempt at a live action.
Heaeing you describe the book, I have to agree that the comedy would’ve helped the show too. They could’ve also done a joke that Cerberus’ name is actually ‘Spot’, as its name in greek basically translates means Spot.
My main problem is how short the episode was. This one really needed more time so it didn’t feel rushed & with little detail.
Lastly, wow, that was a lot of Harry potter coincidences. Agreed it must be on purpose.
there's another issue i have with the show, which isn't as relevant in this episode specifically, but beyond the first and second episodes there aren't really many moments between just gover and annabeth or between just grover and percy. whenever grover is interacting with percy and annabeth its always the BOTH of them in trio scenes. however percy and annabeth get so many moments with just each other and we can see their bond growing and the strength of their relationship growing. but we don't really get that individual relationship building between grover and the other members of the trio. the show tells us that theyre friends with grover, but we don't really see that, especially to the extent that we see it with annabeth and percy.
grover just feel like hes there. and on top of the show constantly separating him from percy and annabeth (like ep 5 and 6 and a bit of 3) theyre always giving different priorities and focuses which lead to him to feel like hes in a league of his own instead of the same league as percy and annabeth. (like him only focusing on uncle ferdinand when percy and annabeth were trying to have a conversation with him)
idk if anyone else feels this way, but its an issue for me because in the book and honestly even in the movie there were moments between the trio and the duos within it where they all genuinely really felt like friends, but here i don't feel that way when it comes to grover.
Yeah for some reason the show is very Anit-trio then it was in the book. Annabeth and Percy do have way more scenes together, which is why they tried to correct it by getting rid of Annabeth and having Grover and Percy together for the rest of the episode but it still falls flat. This is an even bigger issue when you realize that in the next book (and hopefully season) Grover is barely in it, so we're missing out on some quality Percy and Grover time. Part of me feels like Rick is just starting to hate Grover, this is mostly due to my feeling on his last book Chalice of the Gods where I feel like Grover really didn't need to be there.
This sounds kinda like my main takeaway from the show. It was good, but they took away the main rule of writing. They tell us everything instead of showing us, and it leaves the scenes falling flat of any tension or really building deeper connections.
I feel completely different. Like in the books, Grover is kind of just there for some comedic relief, but in the show he is his own character.
"Say it with me. Care-on." - Charon
The underworld is discovered more as the seasons go on. The underworld plays a big part in the 5th book.
Only the 5th and first books have the underworld
@@horicrow2657 As I said, the underworld plays a big part in the 5th book….
@@jordanjackson1740you also said it was “discovered” more as the books go on. You were wrong lol. The majority of the lore we get on the Underworld is from this book and The Sword of Hades short story.
My biggest issue is that there wasn't any set up for the Helm of Darkness twist. It's not like there even needed to be that much of it all they had to do was actually bring it up before this episode, by not doing it they made a huge plot hole especially for non book readers. In the books the Helm is first mentioned when Chiron explains what the Master Bolt is and its history along with Poseidon's Trident. It's then mentioned twice by Annabeth and Luke in which they explain it's invisibility powers, that's how they believed Hades was able to steal the bolt from Zeus. By never mentioning it till now it feels like a last minute plot thread they just threw in there and it will confuse non book readers. Now the twist of having the Helm taken days before the Master Bolt, I'm actually ok with
It’s like we’re getting feed a snack sized teaser version of the show with things not flushed out it’s super frustrating I’m trying to stay positive and not be overly critical but it’s hard. The writers said they’re watching and taking all the feedback and will apply it to next season so hopefully this will be season 1 growing pains and it’ll be even better in the future.
The thing with annabeth reconciling with her father is that she *doesn't* do it immediately she actually tries at the end of the first book after percy tells her that family is worth the trouble but when we see her in the next book she says she still has problems and that it wasn't all that much better so it isn't until the *third* book when she's been kidnapped and percy and them show up at the chases house for help that anything changes cause her father and step-mother both agree to give them a car to help save annabeth and then he proceeds to save their lives with the plane and the weapons that he melted down into bullets and tell her that she'll always have a home with them and that they would keep her safe that the two actually mostly fix they're relationship.
Bonkers take on the Sally and Poseidon scene. That was masterful and one of the best of the series thus far.
This show could’ve been a movie that’s how short it is lol
The lightning bolt only appears in the bag when they reach the underworld.
Percy also did stop at the top of the hill in the books because he was so shocked by the hole, he recognized it from his dreams. Annabeth jars him out of it. It does seem really realistic, because when our bodies and brains are faced with an unknown like that they pump the breaks until they figure out what they are running towards.
To be honest I don't know a lot about all of the Greek myths and I've only read the first two books, but a long time ago and I've seen the two films, this is a slight gripe and slightly controversial, but despite the terrible film being pretty inaccurate to the source material, I think it did do a lot of things well, like the connection between the characters as well as the Lotus casino, I think all of that was handled really well in the movie, but not so well in the TV series, I think one of the biggest mistakes was that instead of having this show 20 minutes long it really should've been more like 40 minutes per episode, then we could've flushed out the stuff at the beginning, which felt very rushed and very Heavily plot dumped, we needed more time to breathe with the characters and we should've been seeing the stakes of how dangerous the Lotus casino was by having them spend more time they are just doing normal things before they realised how dangerous the place actually was. I'm also really confused about Hades and the underworld, is this place supposed to be hell? I thought it was just where everyone goes to die good bad and in between, so why were we not shown that this place literally looks like hell which confuses me quite a bit, especially the stuff with the people who had regret, what's going on with that? I don't remember a lot of the Greek myths only the more popular ones, but I always got the impression that Hades was never a really bad guy, all of the gods are pretty bad people, especially when it comes to being neglectful parents, but it felt like with Hades while he is a very questionable person he's mostly just misunderstood, which was definitely handled quite well in the episode I think, but is he the God of hell or is he the God of the underworld and what is the underworld supposed to be is it hell or is it just a place where all dead people go, because if it's a place where all dead people go good and bad then what it really should've shown, is the bad area which I think is Tarrus which was shown, but then they should've been a good part and that's probably where it has castle should've been and it should've been in my opinion brighter and that should've been the colourful part of the underworld where it's more filled with life but it felt like everything was drained of life and we were watching a stranger things episode, I haven't watched stranger things but from all the clips I've seen online it just felt like we were watching that, this episode was basically stranger things mixed with Harry Potter, it really didn't feel like a Percy Jackson episode, because it didn't really focus very heavily on the Greek myths in fact it changed a lot of them in Waze that didn't really make sense in my opinion, because of this place is supposed to be just the afterlife or the underworld where all dead people go, firstly are they really supposed to be skeletons or are they just spirits because if their spirits then they should still look somewhat like regular people not creepy looking, also is his wife supposed to be here because in the movie she was but I'm not sure if she was in the book or not I can't remember, but that was confusing to me as well, again I haven't read the books in a long time and I know the movies aren't super accurate to the books so just trying to wrap my head around what was supposed to be happening in this episode, but it does feel like Rick Ryden being in control of the show is both a good and bad thing and by this I mean, all of the stuff with Sally has been handled incredibly well along with the stuff with monsters such as a Kidner and medusa they were also handled really well and it made sense for the trio to know more about those myths, but when it comes to the underworld and especially the Lotus casino I feel like they shouldn't of caught on so quickly, just because they know more of the myths doesn't mean they need to be super intelligent, especially since I thought the show was supposed to be made for people who are new to Percy Jackson so therefore we should be learning things alongside the characters, yes it's good for characters to explain some things to us, but I still think given their age they shouldn't know everything and it just lowers the stakes and your less invested when you know there's no real danger or that they know how to get out of these situations, I don't know what I'm saying is making sense or not, but this is just my opinion, that I think the show should've been 40 minutes per episode and should've been more heavily focused on the myths and the source material, rather than trying to combine it with other shows like stranger things or Harry Potter, because it takes away from what the show is supposed to be about, which is supposed to be a book adaptation and it doesn't need to be one for one, it should still be like it was with the first couple of episodes where you're changing things to make the story bitter and to sit up for future plot points, but not actually changing what happens in the episode, which is why I think if they had been 40 minutes long then we could've had enough time to have that accurate depiction while also adding in new things that raised the steaks and added more depth to certain characters, which we're handled really well in the first couple of episodes, where they mix what had actually happened in the book with new plot points sitting up for future events and adding more death to characters such as a kid there, but now it just feels like they're turning it into a stranger things episode or trying to mimic Harry Potter and I don't think that this is supposed to be anything like Harry Potter, yes there can be similarities but this is supposed to be a mixture of Greek mythology with a fictional story about this kid who goes on this big quest and adventure where we the audience learn about Greek mythology will also follow along with Percy story, which it just felt like didn't happen much in these later episodes again I haven't read the books in a long time or seen the films and I know the films aren't all that accurate,but it just felt like some of the changes made didn't really make sense, but that is just my opinion.
I agree with the points you made. Longer episodes and showing the good parts of the underworld. In the book Hades wife wasnt there, because its summer, she is the goddess of Spring and summer, and she only spends Fall and Winter in the underworld.
I am so mad they cutted most of comedy. Come on, why the hell did they cutted Charon asking for a raise and then Hades getting annoyed by this? It was so good and also added a bit to Hades character. I read first book when I was 19 and I laughed so hard when I finally got to these scenes. Here? No emotion, I just watched it and moves on. These comedic parts in the book made Underworld more memorable, in the show they removed these moments and because of that their version became generic. Come on, Charon is exactly the same as in every other media, including movie adaptation! There’s nothing interesting in him.
I know they’re getting inspirations from Harry Potter but for god’s sake, some elements look like copies but weaker because they simply doesn’t work with other aesthetics of this show.
Funny how chucking the ball into the river Styx is the FIRST thing Percy tries in the book, and it doesn’t work.
I’m just here wondering why in Hades would Sally tell Percy the story of a LITERAL MURDERER (Procrustes)
Well, 1st of all, many of the greek myths are pretty brutal, that does not only apply to Procrustes. 2nd, I actually think it was Hermes who wrote it in the letter because why would he tell them where the secret passage is and not tell them about Crusty when he seemed so sad that no hero ever made it.
I agree. I´m not against the representation of hades they gave because "hades is supposed to be evil", no. I am against it because in the book he is literally described by percy himself as the only god that actually FELT like a GOD, powerful but calm. He is supposed to be neutral but FEEL powerful. In here I don´t feel they made such representation any justice
The action scene are less than 2 min and is boring not going to lie
Asphodel IS an empty field that people wander around in. Percy was describing the people lining up to ENTER Asphodel in the books.
Awesome as always thanks i agreed with everything you said ❤
I agree. Would I recommend this show? Not really
Would I recommend if you've read the books? Maybe
I'm thinking percy's and annabeth's personalities seem flipped in the show
I still love the musical, it is the best and no one can tell me otherwise.
I also think the first five episodes were at least pretty good without the context of having read the books, but these last two have just been…bad IMO. The script is really my only problem but unfortunately it’s really bad.
14:59 yes
A lot of the complaints I’ve seen for the show this video included are super nitpicky but I recognize the show brought it upon itself by not giving itself enough time to establish key elements from the book. Everyone’s nitpicky complaints are arising from discontentment with the show’s run time and cutting things from book which could honestly all be fixed next season by extending the run time and episode count and hunkering down on world building.
How is Percy figuring out Kronos is behind everything contrived? Ares literally told him everything he needed to know in the diner two episodes prior. It was even in the recap at the beginning of THIS episode.
I really worry about what binge culture is doing to people, because a lot of complaints I’m seeing about the writing are just people not remembering things from one episode to the next.
I hear what youre saying, but dont always blame the viewer. In my opinion the show has done a bad job emphasizing moments like that which causes us to forget them.
Instead of spending 10 minutes on pointless Grover stuff in Ep 6, why not add some scene at camp where Kronos is mentioned somehow and we get another peek at what Luke's up to? Keep the clues subtle but still have them stay in our mind so Ep. 7 doesnt feel like whiplash.
it was good
why are we acting like they just stay and explore the underworld forever in the books like he’s not trying to find his mom 💀💀 obviously in the books it’s longer because they have more time and they can actually explain stuff into detail because it’s on a page and not a screen . y’all just don’t wanna pay attention for shit . it gets explained more in books further down . if you don’t like the show dont watch it ,, we already have more than 500 hours watched on only the first two episodes trust we don’t need y’all to constantly complain it’s so pathetic 🤷🏾♀️
The show did not do the books justice. So many things were changed just for the sake of being changed. Why did the writers decide to just have them miss the deadline of bringing back the lightning bolt? That takes away all the urgency and consequences, like what was the point. If it just had to happen, then fine...but why didn't Zeus go to war against Poseidon when the deadline passed? He was just waiting for Percy?
There was so much exposition in the show that it was just telling everything instead of showing everything.
The scene where Annabeth literally hears Luke confessing that he's the lightning thief was completely different from the book and took away essential components to Annabeth's character. Luke was her best friend...basically family to her. But the emotion just wasn't there. In the books, Percy tells her that Luke betrayed them, but she didn't believe it. This is important in a later book where Annabeth is tricked by Luke because she still didn't want to believe it.
This is just the surface of the many problems with the changes the show made.
The show was kinda boring...the movie was better
go watch the movies then
@@user-gg1on7xc6vyou Rick stans are so annoying. Let people have their opinions.
I agree. I enjoyed the movies more