Damn, didn't even get your armour broken. Trivia time: Ancient Greeks didn't use silken battle dresses for armour, but they weren't that far off. Metal armour was extremely expensive to make in the ancient world because of how hard it was for them to get enough material and smith it into the proper shape. Bronze cuirasses were usually worn only by high-ranking troops or mercenaries who had been in enough battles to both afford and need them. Instead, most soldiers used armour made from modified normal clothing in some capacity. Persian Immortals, the shock troops of the Greeks' arch-enemies in the ancient world, wore armour made of wicker of all things, while Greeks often wore heavy layers of linen intended to soak blows rather than deflect them. These were called linothoraxes, and how exactly the Greeks made them is still a matter of debate. Similar cotton armour was used by my Scottish ancestors, with layers of cotton stuffed with loose fibres that could cause a sword or arrow tip to catch and thus deflect before it hit skin. However, other researchers have proposed that it was woven together the way the Egyptians and Roman Syrian warriors did during the Bronze and early Iron Age. This was achieved via 'twinning', weaving together two strands of fabric so they interlocked around bands of fabric to create a kind of mesh. There was a widely-publicized final method used to reconstruct linothorax recreated during the 1970s, where a researcher used a kind of thick laquer based on animal bones (similar to early glues) to glue together multiple layers of hardened and dried linen in rows upon rows of hardened armour. This technique was very successful, able to soak direct hits from Bronze Age arrows, but has little direct evidence to suggest it was ever implemented. The passages referenced for this style of armour come from the Byzantine Empire, some 4000 years after linothoraxes were first constructed. They were also mistranslated. So while this style is very flashy, it probably isn't how the armour is made. However, metal armour did exist in the ancient world despite this. Early bronze armour (first found starting in 1400BC) didn't have this mobility. Instead, it was made of full bronze plate beaten into the shape of the wearer's musculature (termed a 'muscle curiass') that covered the entire chest reason. It was usually accompanied by leg armour ('greaves') and a helmet (when wearing a full set, this was called a 'panoply'). Boiled leather was sometimes used in the place of bronze for the poorer classes, while the elites used bronze. This was because bronze armour was extremely expensive to make, and many of the earliest examples seem to be used mostly for ceremonial purposes by generals or prominent political figures. But as Greek warfare advanced from the 8th-4th century BC and the standard military unit changed from light spearmen to armoured hoplites in organized phalanxes, bronze plate became more commonly used more practically. Here, a heavy wooden shield would cover the entire left side of the body, while the right side would have an armoured bracer for stabbing and armoured plates and greaves to cover the legs below the shield and the chest if someone got around the sides. Later innovations combined the two. As people got better at making linothoraxes, they began to weave metal into them in the shape of scales or plates of bronze used to reinforce the armour without sacrificing mobility. This started around 600BC, coinciding with the rise of light skirmishers who would pelt enemies with spears ('peltasts') and more cavalry being brought in from Macedon during Alexander the Great's conquests. Here, the higher mobility of this type of armour let cavalry and skirmishers be more mobile and flank around phalanxes, finding gaps in their armour or charging them from the rear before they could react. Proper chain mail wasn't invented until around 500 BC, and started with the Celts before spreading East to the Greeks later on. By this time ironworking had begun to develop in the Mediterranean, so by the time of the Roman conquest around 150BC iron chain mail armour was more common than bronze armour. The scope of the games and the Greek antiquity ends around this time, which is why we see so many enemies in bronze armour in the game rather than iron armour, despite Romans using it for most of their 2000 year history. Specifically, the satyr hoplites and Talos appear to be wearing armour appropriate for 8th-4th century BC. Mel meanwhile gets the cutting edge from Arachne and Heph--the armour she can buy in the shop doesn't seem to impede her mobility or cover her dress, which suggests it has more in common with the 6th-2nd century BC linothorax/bronze plating hybrids. This armour was often very decorated, adorned with depictions of Zeus, Medusa, thunderbolts, Athena or divine animals to intimidate the enemy and show off the status of the wearer. This fits very well with Arachne's dresses in particular, which are as elaborate as they are practical. Most ancient armour mercifully did not fly apart the moment it rose above a certain damage threshold, though, which is very convenient since if it did we wouldn't be able to study it.
thank you for opening up about your struggles with the prometheus memory game. it takes real bravery to be so vulnerable and im sure many viewers r inspired by your fight with memorising the 5bit sequence.
Haelian is very anti morph/sheep hex, but I love it. Sure it sucks vs bosses but it's excellent in crowded rooms of enemies. I do wish it gets buffed to be more useful in boss fights, but I take it mainly to handle rooms of dangerous enemies.
13:44 Are you talking about me? I'm a very trusted source? XD GG mate! Glad to see your content. Also are you alright mate? You sound a little under the weather.
I saw your comment on that other video weeks ago and have been trying to spread awareness as well. (For those coming in, Twilight Curse gives a +50% additive damage increase for the duration of the dark sparkly ring around the enemy, which still applies to bosses. This requires no upgrades and is simply not mentioned in-game.)
Morph doesn't work on talos?? Is that the only miniboss apart from charybdis that twilight curse doesn't work on, because usually with twilight curse even high fear minibosses feel okay
It doesn’t work on titled enemies I think. So all of the end of region bosses (it might work on Scylla’s 2 minibosses, someone will have to check that) + Charybdis and Talos
@Z4Zuluuu well yeah it doesn't work on guardians but it works on all underworld minibosses so it's just a bit sad that there are 2 minibosses it doesn't work on in overworld, and charybdis is the only miniboss of zone 2 as well
@@theformation3781 i believe it doesn't work on "uh-oh" in oceanus, could be wrong but i'm pretty sure it does depend on whether the (mini)boss has the big name/health bar
boaty mcboatface gold pot counter: missed: 8 boinked: 11!!!!!! huge also btw i think the damage increase from throwing out hex is one of the minor upgrades in the path! big useful imo but u gotta pick it for it to work lul edit: nvmind i read the other comments
6:30 With 115 armor after Poly, Mint Condition, and no other obvious keepsake choice, might it be worth it to take Silken Sash and stack armor for Olympus? I know the usual meta for Sash is if you want to maintain a great Arachne dress after Hecate, but it seems like (especially with Strength on at high fear) Sash could have been a play.
Tidus69, who has the most 50 fear surface clears as of right now, picks Sash for the rift almost every run. It's absolutely real if you already have Trusty Shield.
@@Boat3d I'm thinking that with Strength + full Scars, Sash is effectively +HP/maxHP after each room as long as you have armor. Seems undervalued in the current meta IMO.
Why Pin instead of Tooth for Prometheus? Edit: Just remembered 10 seconds of ungabunga with a high DPS build is just nuts. Still way more risky if you want to play safe imo
Damn, didn't even get your armour broken.
Trivia time:
Ancient Greeks didn't use silken battle dresses for armour, but they weren't that far off. Metal armour was extremely expensive to make in the ancient world because of how hard it was for them to get enough material and smith it into the proper shape. Bronze cuirasses were usually worn only by high-ranking troops or mercenaries who had been in enough battles to both afford and need them. Instead, most soldiers used armour made from modified normal clothing in some capacity. Persian Immortals, the shock troops of the Greeks' arch-enemies in the ancient world, wore armour made of wicker of all things, while Greeks often wore heavy layers of linen intended to soak blows rather than deflect them. These were called linothoraxes, and how exactly the Greeks made them is still a matter of debate. Similar cotton armour was used by my Scottish ancestors, with layers of cotton stuffed with loose fibres that could cause a sword or arrow tip to catch and thus deflect before it hit skin.
However, other researchers have proposed that it was woven together the way the Egyptians and Roman Syrian warriors did during the Bronze and early Iron Age. This was achieved via 'twinning', weaving together two strands of fabric so they interlocked around bands of fabric to create a kind of mesh. There was a widely-publicized final method used to reconstruct linothorax recreated during the 1970s, where a researcher used a kind of thick laquer based on animal bones (similar to early glues) to glue together multiple layers of hardened and dried linen in rows upon rows of hardened armour. This technique was very successful, able to soak direct hits from Bronze Age arrows, but has little direct evidence to suggest it was ever implemented. The passages referenced for this style of armour come from the Byzantine Empire, some 4000 years after linothoraxes were first constructed. They were also mistranslated. So while this style is very flashy, it probably isn't how the armour is made.
However, metal armour did exist in the ancient world despite this. Early bronze armour (first found starting in 1400BC) didn't have this mobility. Instead, it was made of full bronze plate beaten into the shape of the wearer's musculature (termed a 'muscle curiass') that covered the entire chest reason. It was usually accompanied by leg armour ('greaves') and a helmet (when wearing a full set, this was called a 'panoply'). Boiled leather was sometimes used in the place of bronze for the poorer classes, while the elites used bronze. This was because bronze armour was extremely expensive to make, and many of the earliest examples seem to be used mostly for ceremonial purposes by generals or prominent political figures. But as Greek warfare advanced from the 8th-4th century BC and the standard military unit changed from light spearmen to armoured hoplites in organized phalanxes, bronze plate became more commonly used more practically. Here, a heavy wooden shield would cover the entire left side of the body, while the right side would have an armoured bracer for stabbing and armoured plates and greaves to cover the legs below the shield and the chest if someone got around the sides.
Later innovations combined the two. As people got better at making linothoraxes, they began to weave metal into them in the shape of scales or plates of bronze used to reinforce the armour without sacrificing mobility. This started around 600BC, coinciding with the rise of light skirmishers who would pelt enemies with spears ('peltasts') and more cavalry being brought in from Macedon during Alexander the Great's conquests. Here, the higher mobility of this type of armour let cavalry and skirmishers be more mobile and flank around phalanxes, finding gaps in their armour or charging them from the rear before they could react. Proper chain mail wasn't invented until around 500 BC, and started with the Celts before spreading East to the Greeks later on. By this time ironworking had begun to develop in the Mediterranean, so by the time of the Roman conquest around 150BC iron chain mail armour was more common than bronze armour.
The scope of the games and the Greek antiquity ends around this time, which is why we see so many enemies in bronze armour in the game rather than iron armour, despite Romans using it for most of their 2000 year history. Specifically, the satyr hoplites and Talos appear to be wearing armour appropriate for 8th-4th century BC. Mel meanwhile gets the cutting edge from Arachne and Heph--the armour she can buy in the shop doesn't seem to impede her mobility or cover her dress, which suggests it has more in common with the 6th-2nd century BC linothorax/bronze plating hybrids. This armour was often very decorated, adorned with depictions of Zeus, Medusa, thunderbolts, Athena or divine animals to intimidate the enemy and show off the status of the wearer. This fits very well with Arachne's dresses in particular, which are as elaborate as they are practical. Most ancient armour mercifully did not fly apart the moment it rose above a certain damage threshold, though, which is very convenient since if it did we wouldn't be able to study it.
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thank you for opening up about your struggles with the prometheus memory game. it takes real bravery to be so vulnerable and im sure many viewers r inspired by your fight with memorising the 5bit sequence.
It’s so hard man
Haelian is very anti morph/sheep hex, but I love it. Sure it sucks vs bosses but it's excellent in crowded rooms of enemies.
I do wish it gets buffed to be more useful in boss fights, but I take it mainly to handle rooms of dangerous enemies.
Feels great in Olympus yeah, can always get a nice midnight oil to extract value from it for bosses
@Boat3d
What does midnight oil do?
I wish it was better against bosses. That's the only reason I'll take other hexes before it.
@@l.n.3372when your Hex is fully charged you get bonus move and weapon speed. Starting out at +15% at common.
@wildstorm3486
That's not terrible but I'd prefer that it dealt damage to said boss or something. Move speed is nice overall tho
This hex carried one of my 50f’s, incapacitating 5 foes is so nice. Def not great low fear but I like it
I never cared for it before but with the new enemies we have the value is ridiculous
also sometimes i catch myself saying "yeah that's great value" even in other games thanks for that boat
13:44 Are you talking about me? I'm a very trusted source? XD
GG mate! Glad to see your content.
Also are you alright mate? You sound a little under the weather.
I saw your comment on that other video weeks ago and have been trying to spread awareness as well. (For those coming in, Twilight Curse gives a +50% additive damage increase for the duration of the dark sparkly ring around the enemy, which still applies to bosses. This requires no upgrades and is simply not mentioned in-game.)
Yes I was! I was sick when I recorded this, I’m well now thanks for asking and watching Posh :D
watching boated the goated having my breakfast life is good
hex is underrated
moros is overpowered
back to work
Based poetry
Morph doesn't work on talos?? Is that the only miniboss apart from charybdis that twilight curse doesn't work on, because usually with twilight curse even high fear minibosses feel okay
It doesn’t work on titled enemies I think. So all of the end of region bosses (it might work on Scylla’s 2 minibosses, someone will have to check that) + Charybdis and Talos
@Z4Zuluuu well yeah it doesn't work on guardians but it works on all underworld minibosses so it's just a bit sad that there are 2 minibosses it doesn't work on in overworld, and charybdis is the only miniboss of zone 2 as well
@@theformation3781 i believe it doesn't work on "uh-oh" in oceanus, could be wrong but i'm pretty sure it does depend on whether the (mini)boss has the big name/health bar
boaty mcboatface gold pot counter:
missed: 8
boinked: 11!!!!!! huge
also btw i think the damage increase from throwing out hex is one of the minor upgrades in the path! big useful imo but u gotta pick it for it to work lul
edit: nvmind i read the other comments
We take those
@ the ratio is much better than id have thought ngl
Prometheus is so babygirl
Strongly disagree
6:30 With 115 armor after Poly, Mint Condition, and no other obvious keepsake choice, might it be worth it to take Silken Sash and stack armor for Olympus? I know the usual meta for Sash is if you want to maintain a great Arachne dress after Hecate, but it seems like (especially with Strength on at high fear) Sash could have been a play.
Tidus69, who has the most 50 fear surface clears as of right now, picks Sash for the rift almost every run. It's absolutely real if you already have Trusty Shield.
Yeah good call honestly
@@Boat3d I'm thinking that with Strength + full Scars, Sash is effectively +HP/maxHP after each room as long as you have armor. Seems undervalued in the current meta IMO.
Why Pin instead of Tooth for Prometheus?
Edit: Just remembered 10 seconds of ungabunga with a high DPS build is just nuts. Still way more risky if you want to play safe imo
Tooth also turns off Strength until it's used so it'd actually be really bad.
@@jdeeyu2306 Daamn that's right lol
also bc u get to hear moros say "princess" oof
first or something
#prometheus4life
Yuck