In all honesty, I would have preferred if you had done gun guides for all of the at launch weapons before any of the DLC weapons. It's pretty annoying that the Atlas has a gun guide after a few weeks of implementation, but none of the pistols have been covered at all and none of the varients were discussed in this episode. These guides have been super in depth, very informative and interesting but it's such a shame that I still don't know the damage profiles/ranges/stats etc of guns that have been in the game for 11 months
Everything about Trek 50 surprised me, I've only used it a few times and didn't get a good feel for it, I'll make a class with it right now and give it another try.
In Zombies it is, but it is treated as an AR in multiplayer. Not only does it have stats similar to the ARs, but it also has the camo challenges of them.
It has the same optics and attachement as all of the AR , of course ballistic rifle , kbar 32 , nv4 , and the , classic white ar with the usa flag at its side , it has a grenade launcher when you hold triangle on ps4 lol , that thing you better play with silencer plus grip , it kicks a lot
The TF141 is still the best sniper in my opinion if you’re playing aggressively. You move around so quickly and even if you don’t get a one hit kill, it’s so easy to get a quick follow up shot before most other players reacts. Factor in the lower idle sway and amazing center speed, it’s so fun to run around with this particular sniper. Probably the best sniper for multi kills as well if you are decently accurate.
Judging by the stats I just watched in this video... it would appear to be the Widowmaker? I would have to agree in terms of gameplay. I've tested out both a fair bit and just found the WM to be the better weapon. It's much more consistent, easier to follow up on shots and larger 1 (burst) hit potential. Got 6k kills with the Widowmaker and a 1.8 k/d. TF-141 I'm at like 1k with a 0.7 k/d... :(
the amount of exceptions/exemptions/outliers/special cases of weapon mechanic statistics must have been a nightmare for creating statistical breakdown videos throughout this game.. i applaud you for all youve done throughout this iteration, hopefully WWII wont be as complex as IW
S Bode agreed. Some of the epics have pretty significant stat changes. The kbs harbingers feeder perk is interesting, as well as the faster rate of fire from the Proteus polarity. I also would like to have seen how strong the quickdraw effect on the dmr 1 spectacle is. Pity these things didn't get covered, even if it was just these bigger and more significant variants
My favorite sniper is the Trek-50, I'm a PC player so we already don't have aim assist for snipers and the Trek is just so satisfying to use. Also it shreds with thermal :D
It's not easy, but not impossible. I can usually find a few TDM games but that's about it. I haven't played in a few weeks so I don't know how it is right now.
My two favorites are the proteus and the widow maker. The optic on the proteus just seems to make it easier for me. And the ability to quickly switch to a shotgun (and effective one at that) is priceless. The widowmaker just seems to get me more one shot kills...now i know why. Even if i hit them in the legs, its a kill.
The information you gave for the Proteus and Trek-50 peaked my interest because I barely use them. As for my favorite sniper, it's a tie between the Intervention and the Widowmaker. My friends don't like either one because of the hitmarkers they get, but I think they're the most fun to use.
I have never been a sniper but I really enjoy using the TF-141. I play HC so its always a 1-shot kill but the low idle sway makes it easy for a sniping noob like me to use it at least somewhat decently. Its kind of fun picking people off across the map. I just hate staying in one spot too long. Gets boring quickly. Just my 2 cents.
Decided to go back. I wish that IW didn't treat arms separately for the TF and EBR. When enemies ADS, their arms go and cover their upper chest meaning you aren't going to get a one shot kill.
Widowmaker smoke or the Proteus are my favourite snipers. Proteus is good for quickscoping and the shotgun mode means you don't need a secondary with it.
Proteus is the most fun weapon to use in all IW. Next to cyclopean which I dont have. But proteus has decent one shot kill and its good for up close because of the shotgun. Also I love the switching animation.
When I went for diamond snipers, I realized how different each were and how some were really inconsistent but I wasn't to surprised with stats because the stronger snipers are slower and the weaker ones are faster when aiming. And I also gave myself a personal challenge with snipers when I got diamond. I purposely took off aim assist because I was used to BO3 sniping and honestly, I feel it easier to snipe without aim assist especially when going for the headshots and drag scopes.
Me and my mate do QS on cod I... learned... to quickscope in Black Ops 4 with Paladin (400ms ads) He’s used to a bit of sway (doesn’t use grip or cpu) For those reasons, our preferred snipers of choice are KBS and Proteus respectively
EBR any variation is best. 1-shot kill from waist above with a rifle mode for medium-close range. Plus it's an energy weapon and can regen ammo with fusion mag. Best hybrid/jack of all trades weapon in the game in my opinion.
I'm not sure the DMR has a headshot dropoff. I did get longshot headshots with it that were 1 shot kills when I was working on black sky. Granted, I don't know if they had previous damage done to them, but about 15 of my longshots were 1 shot headshots. Also, what is the ADS reduction with the ELO sight? It feels like it's super slow, or is it just the same as normal sights but feels much slower?
I love using ELO sight on snipers. I used it on the ebr and widowmaker so far (just unlocked the tf141) and it is really Nice on the widowmaker, I really recommend it
So, for quickscope purposes, it's either proteus and widowmaker? I'm not much of a quickscoper but since we're at the last month for the lifecycle of IW, I think I'm gonna try my hand on it.
I like the proteus, now I can use an AR for mid range without needing to equip a shotgun on the class (because I can switch the proteus to shotgun mode)
My Ranking (From best to worst): 1. Widowmaker 2. EBR-800 (Bomber Variant, it's such a different gun so i'm splitting this into two) 2. KBS Longbow 3. DMR-1 4. M1 (Yes this counts) 4. Proteus 5. TF-141 6. Trek-50 7. EBR-800 (No Bomber Variant)
My favorite snipers were always the trick snipers proteus and ebr. It frees up a slot for for extra equipment or perks. Plus after play bloodborne i really had respect for these trick weapons. But that was for the sniper class. Favorite submachine gun was the Karma just because it's based on the vector 45 and that gun hardly ever get video game representation.
Oof, ALL snipers in one episode? Well that's one way to cover everything untill WWII! 3:45 Damage profile: 30-23? Umm, I guess this is for Proteus's pellets?
The proteus has become my favorite sniper rifle because it actually has a bit of aim assist and it's just great to use. I love the feel and i really don't notice the 1 shot deficit it has. Even though it's a dlc weapon i think this should have been a default weapon since the start.
I haven't unlocked the TF-141, can't stand the Trek-50 or Proteus, mostly indifferent towards the KBS, but I have more fun with the Widowmaker , DMR-1, and EBR. I'd say the EBR is my favorite, but that's because I use the AR mode, predominantly.
Despite the lack of hip spread the I've gotten more hip fire kills with the trek 50 than any sniper it doesn't seem to suffer from the ads aim assist nerf snipers got granted I know it doesn't have aim assist but it seems more accurate hip firing that other snipers
My favorite is the widomaker it seams more accurate at the expense consistency and if I hitmarker follow up shots are easier so its a fair trade not fond of bolt action or break action and the ebr has way too much kick the tf141 is probably my second favorite followed by the dmr and longbow that's probably reverse of every body else but I don't care if its not consistent it doesn't matter if you can't hit the target
Ace will you be doing a video like this for all of the shotguns, pistols, launchers, & meele weapons for IW? Also will you be doing a separate video for the variants for those weapon classes to?
I can't forget how many fucking downsides there are to using one. The glint, no minimap, barely any aim assist, and the advanced movement doesn't help. You might as well just use something else.
Kinda .. Its bc theres only target assist.. I know i know i watched the video but this game has target assist and no aim assist in multiplayer. In Zombies theres some. they say you have to be moving to get aim assist. No you have to to get target assist. of course you can feel target assist when you move.. But aim assist should be felt all the time. Aim assist is snap aim. Theres no snap aim. So if u arent on target when you ads then it wont feel right. but yeah imo there is no snap aim. If u have to move to feel assist thats target assist bc it helps you stay on target. Aim assist should snap onto you even slightly if there is any at all. but theres obv none bc people wouldnt have complained after years of playing other cods. Even bo3 has better aim assist. Ww2 has much better aim assist. Something is missing in iw and i think its aim assist. No snap aim at all. if u can manage to get on tatget you will have alittle bit of aim assist. Which brings up if synaptic has a smaller hit box
+Arie Jwz this one episode took over a week to put together. I think you seriously underestimate the time and effort that goes into a gun guide video. This is also my job and I need to prioritize my time. These episodes aren't nearly as popular as they were and they're hardly worth all the time that goes into them. I earn far below minimum wage making this series
TheXclusiveAce Yeah I get that Sure iT takes time But Ive seen Some time Where I did Not see a gun guide at All for like weeks But I like All Ur vids though. Its Just Idk man I wanted more info abt snipers Thats iT I guess
Sniping in this game is very satisfying and fun. Also I’ve gotten hit markers with Trek-50 it leaves me perplexed.
Reactive armor?
Probably
Or phantoms back shield
In all honesty, I would have preferred if you had done gun guides for all of the at launch weapons before any of the DLC weapons. It's pretty annoying that the Atlas has a gun guide after a few weeks of implementation, but none of the pistols have been covered at all and none of the varients were discussed in this episode. These guides have been super in depth, very informative and interesting but it's such a shame that I still don't know the damage profiles/ranges/stats etc of guns that have been in the game for 11 months
That's one way to spin the trek 50 lol. No reload, it only rechambers... faster with the perk that allows faster reloading.
Jose Morales No, he means Engineer.
@@andreivaldez6713 no he means dexterity
I love the EBR’s versatility and the Widowmaker’s precision :D
This episode was a long time coming... I think the Widowmaker is the best of the group
Everything about Trek 50 surprised me, I've only used it a few times and didn't get a good feel for it, I'll make a class with it right now and give it another try.
The m1 is treated as a sniper in iw
That's true, however, it acts more like an AR stat wise and it is more like a marksman rifle, just like the DMR-1 sniper rifle.
In Zombies it is, but it is treated as an AR in multiplayer. Not only does it have stats similar to the ARs, but it also has the camo challenges of them.
Yet, the attachment set for M1 is more in line to assault rifles than sniper rifles.
It is a sniper rifle in zombies and a AR in multiplayer mode
It has the same optics and attachement as all of the AR , of course ballistic rifle , kbar 32 , nv4 , and the , classic white ar with the usa flag at its side , it has a grenade launcher when you hold triangle on ps4 lol , that thing you better play with silencer plus grip , it kicks a lot
Did you know about the faster reload thing that you can do with the trek?
The TF141 is still the best sniper in my opinion if you’re playing aggressively. You move around so quickly and even if you don’t get a one hit kill, it’s so easy to get a quick follow up shot before most other players reacts. Factor in the lower idle sway and amazing center speed, it’s so fun to run around with this particular sniper. Probably the best sniper for multi kills as well if you are decently accurate.
Judging by the stats I just watched in this video... it would appear to be the Widowmaker? I would have to agree in terms of gameplay. I've tested out both a fair bit and just found the WM to be the better weapon. It's much more consistent, easier to follow up on shots and larger 1 (burst) hit potential. Got 6k kills with the Widowmaker and a 1.8 k/d. TF-141 I'm at like 1k with a 0.7 k/d... :(
No dmg
the amount of exceptions/exemptions/outliers/special cases of weapon mechanic statistics must have been a nightmare for creating statistical breakdown videos throughout this game.. i applaud you for all youve done throughout this iteration, hopefully WWII wont be as complex as IW
Can you do a vid for the best variants for each of them cause some make the stats change a lot
Should have covered at least a few variants. EBR bomber comes to mind...
S Bode agreed. Some of the epics have pretty significant stat changes. The kbs harbingers feeder perk is interesting, as well as the faster rate of fire from the Proteus polarity. I also would like to have seen how strong the quickdraw effect on the dmr 1 spectacle is. Pity these things didn't get covered, even if it was just these bigger and more significant variants
Good stuff Ace. Would've loved this earlier in life cycle but better late than never.
The rare varient of the trek 50 makes your reload faster. Combined with dexterity and it's better than the AW Mors
My favorite sniper is the Trek-50, I'm a PC player so we already don't have aim assist for snipers and the Trek is just so satisfying to use. Also it shreds with thermal :D
Domovoi Nara how easy is it to find games on pc version?
It's not easy, but not impossible. I can usually find a few TDM games but that's about it. I haven't played in a few weeks so I don't know how it is right now.
Elo suppressed Trek 50 is just God tier I love going close range with the zephyr I can actually treat it like a shotgun
Thanks for the 10 months late gun guide.
Thank you so much for the video
Always great content
Now I have a better understanding of the ebr
My two favorites are the proteus and the widow maker. The optic on the proteus just seems to make it easier for me. And the ability to quickly switch to a shotgun (and effective one at that) is priceless. The widowmaker just seems to get me more one shot kills...now i know why. Even if i hit them in the legs, its a kill.
The information you gave for the Proteus and Trek-50 peaked my interest because I barely use them. As for my favorite sniper, it's a tie between the Intervention and the Widowmaker. My friends don't like either one because of the hitmarkers they get, but I think they're the most fun to use.
The Gaming Plug I like them to , and I snipe pretty good . But they’re very hard to use ..
Abed Juma I agree and the challenge of using them is what makes it fun for me. Getting kills with them is satisfying.
I think I mite try them again , I only used them when I first started playing IW .. mainly I just use the kbs , proteus and trek
I prefer the EBR 800 and the proteus, because their alt forms have done well to get me out of tight situations where I couldn't snipe.
I would classify the rechamber of the Trek-50 as a reload. It does gain increased reload speed when you put Dexterity on.
I have never been a sniper but I really enjoy using the TF-141. I play HC so its always a 1-shot kill but the low idle sway makes it easy for a sniping noob like me to use it at least somewhat decently. Its kind of fun picking people off across the map. I just hate staying in one spot too long. Gets boring quickly. Just my 2 cents.
I love the KBS TF and Trek
Decided to go back. I wish that IW didn't treat arms separately for the TF and EBR. When enemies ADS, their arms go and cover their upper chest meaning you aren't going to get a one shot kill.
9:27 did your own bullets damage has you?
It's due to the ricochet of energy weapon projectiles, not only can they damage enemies, but you too only at a very specific angle.
For whatever reason I can't do shit with KBS ;-;
EBR Osiris tho...love it :3
krosser - kbs harbinger is best when you add ballistic cpu.
RSXbig0 If you like the EBR, go for it. If not, give it a pass. If you're on PC go for Bomber, that shit's crazy
This is a nice change!
Can’t wait for some gun guides for WW2
I like the trek 50 and ofcourse the intervention
Could you do an episode on the venom X?
My fav sniper is trek 50! For trickshotting of course
Widowmaker smoke or the Proteus are my favourite snipers. Proteus is good for quickscoping and the shotgun mode means you don't need a secondary with it.
Proteus is the most fun weapon to use in all IW. Next to cyclopean which I dont have. But proteus has decent one shot kill and its good for up close because of the shotgun. Also I love the switching animation.
When I went for diamond snipers, I realized how different each were and how some were really inconsistent but I wasn't to surprised with stats because the stronger snipers are slower and the weaker ones are faster when aiming. And I also gave myself a personal challenge with snipers when I got diamond. I purposely took off aim assist because I was used to BO3 sniping and honestly, I feel it easier to snipe without aim assist especially when going for the headshots and drag scopes.
The kill zone is totally realistic
I love my epic KBS Longbow because I still have my mini map available while ads which is very helpful
How does suppressor effect the EBR-800 in assault mode?
The proteus in shotgun mode when aiming down sight has a tighter spread unlike the other shotguns in the game.
Many of the shotguns in IW behave this way, just to varying degrees
TheXclusiveAce oh well thanks for clarifying because I believed for the longest that aiming down sight on other shotguns did not tighten spread
Me and my mate do QS on cod
I... learned... to quickscope in Black Ops 4 with Paladin (400ms ads)
He’s used to a bit of sway (doesn’t use grip or cpu)
For those reasons, our preferred snipers of choice are KBS and Proteus respectively
I love the Prodeus
Ah yes, the KBS longbow is my go to sniper boi
I'm that one guy that likes the proteus the best. I've had the best kills with that more than any other sniper. Feels good in my opinion.
ace did you know the quarter master variants for the non-dlc guns were moved out, and are available to purchase?
EBR any variation is best. 1-shot kill from waist above with a rifle mode for medium-close range. Plus it's an energy weapon and can regen ammo with fusion mag. Best hybrid/jack of all trades weapon in the game in my opinion.
I really love the proteus
Could you please cover the stats of the karma 45 deimos? Great videos. :) Enjoy your content
I'm not sure the DMR has a headshot dropoff. I did get longshot headshots with it that were 1 shot kills when I was working on black sky. Granted, I don't know if they had previous damage done to them, but about 15 of my longshots were 1 shot headshots.
Also, what is the ADS reduction with the ELO sight? It feels like it's super slow, or is it just the same as normal sights but feels much slower?
I love using ELO sight on snipers. I used it on the ebr and widowmaker so far (just unlocked the tf141) and it is really Nice on the widowmaker, I really recommend it
Wtf i be getting hitmarkers with the proteus shotgun yet u get one shot kills at a decent amount of range
The EBR 800 in AR mode, if u put an elo sight on it, it will slow down ur ads time significantly. Fyi lol
So, for quickscope purposes, it's either proteus and widowmaker?
I'm not much of a quickscoper but since we're at the last month for the lifecycle of IW, I think I'm gonna try my hand on it.
Dude the EBR reminds me of the LYNX in cod ghosts
Slowest ADS and large OHK potential
I like the proteus, now I can use an AR for mid range without needing to equip a shotgun on the class (because I can switch the proteus to shotgun mode)
Widowmaker Smoke with the Kendall 44 cartell are the best
What about the KBS Longbow
I thought that the ebr had more idle sway than the kbs
Fun fact: EBR-800 is a hybrid it can change into a AR.
Ebr-800 is my favorite nd I be going off with it
My Ranking (From best to worst):
1. Widowmaker
2. EBR-800 (Bomber Variant, it's such a different gun so i'm splitting this into two)
2. KBS Longbow
3. DMR-1
4. M1 (Yes this counts)
4. Proteus
5. TF-141
6. Trek-50
7. EBR-800 (No Bomber Variant)
The DMR was such a pain in the ass to get gold. Without dexterity, it reloads MISERABLY slow
FaZe_Xclusive
What's the speed for the trek 50 reload time it still reloads after every one shot so it does have reload time
My favorite snipers were always the trick snipers proteus and ebr. It frees up a slot for for extra equipment or perks. Plus after play bloodborne i really had respect for these trick weapons. But that was for the sniper class. Favorite submachine gun was the Karma just because it's based on the vector 45 and that gun hardly ever get video game representation.
well, EBR-800 bomber, lol
I like the Proteus
I don’t understand why you’re doing this video now rather than earlier.
Love the series, but would have been useful info months ago. Especially, since it was condensed and consolidated.
Oof, ALL snipers in one episode? Well that's one way to cover everything untill WWII!
3:45 Damage profile: 30-23? Umm, I guess this is for Proteus's pellets?
The proteus has become my favorite sniper rifle because it actually has a bit of aim assist and it's just great to use. I love the feel and i really don't notice the 1 shot deficit it has. Even though it's a dlc weapon i think this should have been a default weapon since the start.
My fav sniper is the trek 50
run forgrip on EBR and sniper mode is way more bearable
Think you
Didn't know he always has been doing this from 2016 cod
I haven't unlocked the TF-141, can't stand the Trek-50 or Proteus, mostly indifferent towards the KBS, but I have more fun with the Widowmaker , DMR-1, and EBR. I'd say the EBR is my favorite, but that's because I use the AR mode, predominantly.
The EBR is a bit of a barrett
Like the epics
Before 1000views squad
My favorite sniper is the widowmaker then the proteus.
Despite the lack of hip spread the I've gotten more hip fire kills with the trek 50 than any sniper it doesn't seem to suffer from the ads aim assist nerf snipers got granted I know it doesn't have aim assist but it seems more accurate hip firing that other snipers
My favorite is the widomaker it seams more accurate at the expense consistency and if I hitmarker follow up shots are easier so its a fair trade not fond of bolt action or break action and the ebr has way too much kick the tf141 is probably my second favorite followed by the dmr and longbow that's probably reverse of every body else but I don't care if its not consistent it doesn't matter if you can't hit the target
Ace will you be doing a video like this for all of the shotguns, pistols, launchers, & meele weapons for IW? Also will you be doing a separate video for the variants for those weapon classes to?
Does anyone still play this game I know it's fading but you can still find games. I have and use the proteus - woe
My favourite is the proteus idk why it just feels easy to quick scope with and I have the epic variant so I shoot faster
PurpleJesus15 Probably because the Proteus hss so much aim assist.
I have to admit, the Ironsight isn't as similar as Black Ops 2, it's similar as Infinite Warfare for some reason.
great vid
a bit late huh?
I think the tf-141 is the best
İts Been 11 Months Man . Cmooon .
Reis Goktug wdym
Trek 50
Longbow no questions 😂 or tf141 is you wanna be classic 😂
Hi
Longbow harbinger all the way ..
They are deadly on infinite warefare , snipers in black ops 1 lol the dragunov is poop compared to them
Kbs lomgbow
The tf-141 is just bad
To be honest I'm surprised and disappointed about the movement speed, how the heck can sniper rifle have the same MS as SMG ????!!!!!!
Big_H_1982 PSN The same reason you recover from being shot by hiding for 5 seconds: it's a game.
Nice
God, sniping in this game feels just too awkward. Anyone else agree?
STRIKERFORCE2 that depends...
Are you a quick scoper or are you a traditional sniper?
Dragon of The White Flame Both, I just don't like the feeling of the snipers in this game. Way better than black ops 3s in my opinion but still.
I can't forget how many fucking downsides there are to using one. The glint, no minimap, barely any aim assist, and the advanced movement doesn't help. You might as well just use something else.
STRIKERFORCE2 I agree
So I'm just waiting on those possibly new variants that may be coming...
Kinda .. Its bc theres only target assist.. I know i know i watched the video but this game has target assist and no aim assist in multiplayer. In Zombies theres some. they say you have to be moving to get aim assist. No you have to to get target assist. of course you can feel target assist when you move.. But aim assist should be felt all the time. Aim assist is snap aim. Theres no snap aim. So if u arent on target when you ads then it wont feel right. but yeah imo there is no snap aim. If u have to move to feel assist thats target assist bc it helps you stay on target. Aim assist should snap onto you even slightly if there is any at all. but theres obv none bc people wouldnt have complained after years of playing other cods. Even bo3 has better aim assist. Ww2 has much better aim assist. Something is missing in iw and i think its aim assist. No snap aim at all. if u can manage to get on tatget you will have alittle bit of aim assist. Which brings up if synaptic has a smaller hit box
This is Bs man. You could have Done the gun guide fully
+Arie Jwz no time unfortunately
TheXclusiveAce you Have like 3 weeks for the snipers
+Arie Jwz this one episode took over a week to put together. I think you seriously underestimate the time and effort that goes into a gun guide video. This is also my job and I need to prioritize my time. These episodes aren't nearly as popular as they were and they're hardly worth all the time that goes into them. I earn far below minimum wage making this series
TheXclusiveAce Yeah I get that Sure iT takes time But Ive seen Some time Where I did Not see a gun guide at All for like weeks But I like All Ur vids though. Its Just Idk man I wanted more info abt snipers Thats iT I guess
Games dead
2nd
My favourite sniper is the DMR-1 then the widowmaker